The joke is being missed by many. At the time Savile was advertising British Rail "Let the Train Take the Strain" the protaganist was angry about the terrible journey. Many felt Savile was creepy but the enormity of his disgusting behaviour wasn't known until later.
While that is true EVERYONE at the BBC. Especially the higher-ups. ALL knew he (and others) were at it. In fact, if you missed it, the Savile case was used to blind the public from all the other abusers and those who let it go on. PS: Heres a fun game for you. Look up the art scuptures, located throughout the original BBC building (the one they now use). Note the artists 'muses' in his work. And the fact (back in the 1920/30's) that he was a known serial abuser of the young. In fact, one guy tried to destroy one of the statues (outside the building), done by this artist. I believe, the media didn't mention the actual artists background/crimes. To finish, the BBC ...still have ALL that art work on display. Throughout the building. Its all 'list art' now. How nice. Hiding things ..'in plain sight'.
Reading threads like this always make me very proud of my dad, who died many years before Savile was exposed but always thought him a creep and a weirdo and would regularly say so when I was growing up. He turned out to be an excellent judge of character.
Oh yes my dad was exactly the same! It's funny also how dad's views rub off on us, as I felt exactly the same about everyone. He always ruled the remote in our house but it didn't bother us haha, he'd turn over Jimmy, and Bruce Forsyth funnily enough! Loved all of The Goons tho'.
I was too naïve to think anything sinister about him. But I simply couldn’t understand his appeal or attraction. I didn’t get what people liked about him. Quite different to Rolf Harris who seemed genuinely talented and humane.
The reference in the sketch is obviously relating to British Rail, however, many folks at the time thought Savile was a creepy weirdo. Used to hate him hosting TOTP.
Having been born in 1946, I grew up through the Saville years. He became ubiquitous on tv, featuring in a lot of different programmes. I could never understand why. In comparison to the John Peels, DLTs and the rest, Savile stood out like the proverbial sore thumb! He simply never fitted at all into that world as far as I could see. It was very strange to me.
You are so right, good old DLT only sexual assaulted women who were at least 15. Peely only admitted to having sex with "a lot of underage girls", and his wife was 15, but as far as we know all consensual.
@@AndrewLakeUK Well said. Travis looked like a fumbling, chuckling ELO bear. Peel was the cool cassette-accepting beardy you really wanted to meet. What they did with underage children was to us civilians rock and, to a large extent, roll.
I seem to remember that even Tony Blackburn was sacked by the BBC at one point for having sex with a fourteen year old girl, but they reinstated him when he threatened them with some kind of exposure or legal action.
Completely right👍 - Saville's pic is only in the sketch because he did BR adverts - no other reason - classic misinterperitation - guess you had to be there in the 70s / 80s 😂
At that time JS was the face of BR. He was in all their ads. Announcer says the train was 7 hrs late- Rikki's character just arrived on it. He takes out his anger on JS poster. Hardly anyone knew what JS was really like in those days. I grew up with him on TV. He was cringe but also unique, and strangely mesmerising to kids. We were so used to seeing him on telly that he was just part of the establishment. There was nobody to compare him to. Personally, I was too young and innocent to even imagine what he was about.
Very true.. his eyes would amaze me as a child and flet a creepiness about him being too young I watch my family laugh and laugh so thinking he must be a great man..not
As an American looking from the outside I always thought Saville was creepy as fuck with that leering face...as the stories surfaced I wasn't surprised of who he was ....but the power and keys to Broadmoor?! Total madness
He could also be highly intimidating. He was also super fit and had once been a professional wrestler, he also claimed to know IRA terrorists who would do a job on you on his say so, probably bullshit, but it would still make you think. Oh yes, Savile was a nasty piece of work.
El Leeway He raped dead disabled children too with his keys to the mortuary. Then the establishment made him the no.1 kids entertainer! They like to mock us with these false idols.
El LeewayIt seems total madness from this side of the pond as well. I don't know anyone who can understand how anyone could hand over the keys to Broadmoor to a tv presenter!! It is total madness and has never been explained. I also think his popularity was greatly over rated, he presented top of the pops which people watched for the music not the presenters and he presented Jim'll fix it which was a great format which would have worked with any presenter and like every other child I thought he was a creep.
My wife and I lived in Leeds in the 90's and would often see him skulking around the headrow in his track suite and bling, My wife used to say he was a pervert back then.
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 and in the 50’s believe it or not….they used to to throw lumps of liver on the plate with their bare hands 🤮 bunch of miserable crazies back then
It's because at the time Savile was the face of British Rail. Savile did TV Adverts advertising British Rail. Savile probably abused Thomas the Tank Engine at the time too as poor Edward looked on.
Much was made of his charity work, but one wonders if there was an ulterior motive behind it all? I did my first London Marathon in 1989 and passed him in South London glad handing the crowd. He never never passed me, but finished earlier than I did!
Margret Thatcher was instrumental in getting him his knighthood and they also spent many a christmas together!! King Charles was rather fond of him as well!! scary
@RAXM-mk1kl Starmer was not working in the dept at time and had no involvement. Boris Johnson falsely accused him of covering JS case up and was made to apologise to Starmer. Get your facts straight.
@@RAXM-mk1kl Oh do stop this lie. If you really believe your lie to be true. then have the guts not to childishly hide it on here. Send your precise accusations to the Labour Party Central Office signed. Or grow up.
Many years ago, my late dad used to comment about him when he had a radio show on BBC radio 2, Sunday mornings, I recall, back in the late 70s/early 80s. JS would brag off about not actually at the radio station, but on a marathon, or some other event. My dad despised him, and always reckoned he was a wrong un! How true that became! Thankfully, my late dad was around to see JS's downfall, albeit after the appalling deeds committed being discovered after his death.
I remember speaking to a Mum whose daughter had been on Fix it. I asked what Saville was like with the children before the show. She said that the production team ensured that there was no contact until they met on the set. They knew what he was like and the risks involved.
While on a cruise ship in the 70s,he tried to make sexual advances towards a 14-year-old girl and was locked in his cabin by the ship's staff until they reached port!
@@rjjcms1that's a well known incident, even more shocking when he used his wealth and connections to get a private yacht to pull up alongside during the night and jumped from the porthole onto its deck! I believe it was Epstein's private yacht? So instead of one 14-year-old victim it's reported that he enjoyed himself with a veritable smorgasbord of girls aged from 8 to 15 years of age, one of whom is now middle-aged and quite highly ranking in the entertainment industry. She wrote of witnessing Savile lead a dark ritual that was conducted as they crossed the prime meridian, and that the sacrifice offering was cast into the English Channel under a full moon, after being drained of blood which all present were forced to drink. It's really shocking.
I always remember when we were in the energy crisis and were all issued with petrol coupons. Saville showed his true nature by buying a whole petrol station for himself so he was guaranteed fuel. This was a first insight in to the true nature of this particulat beast nurtured by the BBC. Luckily we never had to use these coupons.
@@andrewward2010 why is that a good thing? Charities are not responsible for what he did and were being fooled like everyone else. They do, most of them, good jobs of helping others, so if he dragged them down it can only mean that's a bad thing, isn't it?
I once met up with Savile when we were both running in Regent's Park in the early '80s. I was jogging along with him for ten minutes or so and chatting and he came across as a rather obnoxious figure. I didn't warm to him at all.
@@claymor8241 it’s ok saying why didn’t you report it but he had friends in very high places. A night patrol constable caught him in his rolls Royce with a 13 year old girl when he reported it to his chief inspector his notebook was taken off him and he was told to forget everything he had seen.
Reading a bit much into the Saville connection. I think there's a tendency to look at any retrospective reference to him in old comedy shows etc and to think they were trying to hint at his dark secrets. I don't see it here. A lot of the public found him simply annoying.
darkdubh Spot on. And of course, the guy was moaning about the long delayed train journey he had just had, and at the time, Saville was the "advertisement face" of British Rail. Still, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory - obviously someone with knowledge of what was going on would write a comedy sketch of someone throwing food at a BR Saville photo, rather than... you know, alert someone (even if people think they were all "in on it", some newspapers would have loved such a scoop)
Yes, I agree. As a young lad in the eighties I had no idea that he was a nonce but I did think that he was an annoying, smug and self-aggrandizing prick.
He was a high level Mason and they protected him, so did the police, so did the BBC stop paying your licence immediately if you have any sence... to think the public where paying to be abused and brain washed
@@MsRichycon I got rid of my telly years ago when this first came to light. I objected to the quality of programming and having to pay for a brainwashing operation. When I was a young man I used to laugh at those religious people who didn't own telly's because they feared that programmes were intended to err, programme you! 😂 But alas, it turns out that in that aspect at least, they were right. I ain't laughing now.
I know exactly what you mean. Central Station (Sydney) use to have a good basic cafe on the main concourse, now it's been replaced by a trendy expensive cafe/restaurant!
Being the "tea boy" in my first job, I was sent daily to buy bacon rolls from a nearby cafe. The old gal in there looked like that woman in the sketch - Cigarette hanging out of her mouth, coughing continuously, but the thing I always noted were her filthy black fingernails. She looked like she'd just come in from fixing a car. I never bought a roll, and enjoyed watching my workmates scoffing theirs.
Good point - 2 familiar and opposing stereotypes, destined to have their “moment” - but they got along absolutely fine and the punchline was off to the side.
Im 68 now, 'Let the train take the strain' was the ad on TV I think it was. When I was a young man into the music scene this guy used to gross me out as it was obvious to any 16 or 17 year old at the time, he was a dirty twisted old git. I could never stand him or in fact any other Disc Jockey for that matter. Top of the Pops was just to creepy. I got into the old Grey whistle test. loved that.
Steve Wright is still there on my customers’ radios every bloody afternoon , spewing out the exact same cosy pointless tunes and trivia and supported by his equally smug little gang as if it were still 1985. God knows how he’s got away with it . It says something about daytime ‘ music ‘ radio in England and the folk of my generation whom don’t seem capable of moving beyond to something new or more interesting or important. Hell I won’t knock ‘ successful’ folk for the sake of it but when you then hear about the huge wages this guy gets one hopes he shares some of it with more deserving causes. I recently read one DJ or comedian saying Steve was the first hilarious DJ on British radio. Wright was at his best a watered down Kenny Everett copies. I dunno which is worst , celebrity old fart DJs or generic local and commercial ones . 🙄👍
Steve Wright was ace back in the 80's, now he's on radio 2 his style of show is fun and nostalgic but left of mainstream. Things like this are subject to opinion not matter of fact.
My dads job involved working to a tolerance of 100 thousands of an inch. He sliced the ham for British rail sandwiches. They later trained him to weld so he could put the crusts on the meat pies
@@bmt3315 Chill, my comment to you was just a bit of dark humour, not meant as snappy. And the other bloke asked a question so I just gave him a reasonable answer. I like fish and chips anyway. So long as the fish is crisp and chips are fluffy on the inside, not blathered in grease. 😄
As an American with Scottish ancestry, I am stunned to hear about the horrible sex crimes he did and how they make Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and Bill Cosby look tame. It really is shocking to hear about. Though, I can understand certain British people when they say he gave them the creeps even when he was alive. The fact that he was doing charity work in order to get away with his horrific sex crimes and the fact that numerous allegations weren't really made public until shortly after his death really is something.
@@TheGodParticle I did hear was given free access to Stoke Mandeville Hospital. That being said, I really doubt he would get away with his horrific sex crimes scot-free today.
John Lydon was banned by the BBC for stating "well we all know what Jimmy saville is" back in 79. he was well protected by the BBC and the tory party who he donated large sums of money to
Everybody says 'the bbc protected him' but why would they have known? Youd do better to ask why Broadmoor and Stoke Mandeville hospitals allowed him to roam around children wards unsupervised out of hours.
why people saw savile as a national treasure when he walked on this planet i will never truly understand apart from the fact he did much to charity, which was only a disguise for his charitable acivities
catholic..........he was allegedly a practising Roman Catholic - maybe he thought instead of doing a few "Hail Mary's" for his Sins that doing 'good deeds' would somehow absolve him of them.
It was a spell. The collective said “he was a great guy” and everyone went along with it, although they knew deep down he was a wrong un. People just go with the herd. It’s sad.
I think because most people (kids mainly) saw him as this affable, goofy bloke who was always having a laugh. Some people knew what he was I think, not because they'd necessarily worked it out but had experience of what he was really like or had had people confide in them. John Lydon's (Johnny Rotten) thoughts about him made for a chilling interview. He himself or someone he knew must have been affected by Savile.
@@G4RY1159 I mean, they sometimes weren't, Gary. I remember there being a replacement bus service on Sundays for what felt like an age. It was especially annoying because I worked on Sundays and had to get the last bus back to Ardrossan. A person could lose their will to live on the replacement bus service. Fortunately, having grown up in Ardrossan; I never had one to begin with.
@@dandlion7748 What was he supposed to do exactly? He wasn't management. He said it on live TV. Which would have got him in hot water in the first place. He's always maintained his position. He was a Punk musician not a Social Worker.
@@wattage2007 he had police friends that came over to his house for a meeting every friday... one person just can't pull this off, if you watch the doc it becomes obvious that he had backup, like big time, and I'm not talking about the quiet victims that were too afraid to talk. For example, the Police received an anonymous letter in a different location, so they sent it to Leeds police (where his cop friends are, remember) and nothing came out of it, they didn't investigate anything... the letter just went away. Jee, I wonder why? This guy was feeling extremely safe, almost like higher ups gave him the ok to do whatever he pleases and just silence everything. I mean people DID talk, but the media and officials didn't take anything of it seriously, well that's at least how it looked like from an outside perspective. but I think many were in on it in some shape or form. They didn't talk about it on purpose. He's not the only predator out there, they network wich is why shit like that can even take place. It wasn't like two times, he molested over 400 Kids. I refuse to believe you can fly under the radar for so long without any "support".
@@portylad and that.. well, I wouldn't raise half an eybrow if it were to came out (wich it never will) that the royals are also quite fond of human trafficking and other crimes.
@@lexiwilson9501 Really miss the Hogmanay ritual of getting back from the pub in time for a bit of Scotch & Rye and some Black Bun. But they would more likly have it deep fired these day's, if you know what I mean .. 🙂
Might wish to write to the script-writer about that one.....maybe it was personal. Songwriters do similar when they inject lyrics into songs...can be clever stuff.
It said in the title : 'for the wrong reason' - Jimmy Savile used to be the face & voice for British Rail. He used the train to get between his homes in Leeds, Scarborough (pronounced Scar - bru and Glen Coe) also London. He was well known enough he used to say 'This is the age of the train' , before they said 'let the train take the strain' . In the sketch the Scottish feller had spent 9 hours on a train. Enters a BR caff (emblazoned with the BR logo) We think he wants a meal, but is merely getting enough slop together to throw at the leering ugly mug of Sir Jimmy the Paedo Savile!
I is from Yorkshie innit Bro. This is aimed at the numptys from across the pond who say Scar-bo ro. as 3 sylables . I could have said 'Scar-burra' But they'd still go Scar-ro ro. So Scar-bru is the best compromise. But that is how we say it in Yorkshire. Scarborough is on the east Coast of Yorkshire! Where we would say Edin-bru. Scar-bru Luff-bru, and Middles-bru!
The reason why Jimmy Saville's picture was his target was because the man had just had a 9 hour train delay and at the time Saville headed up an advertising campaign for British Rail. Nothing to do with his abuse, back then the public didn't have a clue.
The slogan for the advert was “This is the age of the train”. During my first train ride with my mum I sat down on a chair and a huge cloud of dust rose up from it. I said, “Look Mum. This is the age of the train” as I patted the seat to make more and more dust rise up. All the other passengers were laughing at me but I didn’t really understand why it was funny. I honestly thought that the slogan was referring to how old the trains were.
To me...lt seems that people in the BBC and in the media, knew about Savile and what he was doing from way back...But of cource didn't do anything about it...
@ Nik Reece - The guy's attacking the poster because JS was the face of British Rail's promotional TV adverts and poster campaign. it's got fuck all to do with his sex abuse antics.
Desperate Mohammedan the World's Strongest Arab.... really?....l think you'll find their actually had been rumours about savile for years at the BBC...
Ricky Fulton's sketches on Hogmanay night are comedy gold. There's no doubt he was throwing that plate at Savile not only because of his train ads. Savile was one creepy mf at the time.
js was known about for decades! All the nurses at a certain large hospital in the capital would tell the children on the ward “if uncle jimmy walks on to the ward pretend to be asleep!” It makes me feel physically sick to hear/watch/read about the things he was said to have done that came out to the public after he died, why was he protected? 🤢😤🤯
one of the ways he got away with it was people would say things like "at a certain large hospital" what difference does it make saying the name. no one is going to sue you.
The Captain of QE2 confined him to his cabin and threw him off at the next port for misdemeanours to young children. Some people wouldn't rightly go along.
@user-yl1xy5eg7b Not really. The context is a 9 hour train journey to Scotland and nothing to do with the crimes of Savile. You can't look at this with the eyes of 2023 because it does fit.The joke and it was funny is the standard custard pie in the face. The Savile advert was huge in the 70"s and that is the only context to see this joke.
@@chrismarsh8162 I lived through those times. When I was posted to BAOR people I served with used to make 'nervous' jokes about Savile and what he did. Many people in show business knew. Peter Parker despised the man.
@@user-yl1xy5eg7b I worked in Television Centre and I even knew personally one of the TOTP production team. Notwithstanding all the wise-after-the-event statements, there _was_ no open secret, there were no rumours.
That's what sickens me the most. Think of how many people must've known what Savile was up to and hushed it up. I still think the overall thing was poorly policed and dozens of protectors of Savile got away unpunished.
Right so the cleaners, lighting crews, sound people, secretaries, maintenance men, all saw children being abused and put their coats on and went home to their own families without another word or thought? What kind of moronic planet do you live on?
As a young kid, only seeing Saville on tv, I looked up to him. I had no sense of the creepiness and thought he was benevolent and kind. I'm sure many kids in the UK felt the same- those of us fortunate enough not to have had one of those terrible encounters
The sad thing was that children at the time saw Jim’ll Fix It as a means of achieving their dreams. The truth is that a despicable pervert had inveigled his way into this situation and used it to lure kids into sitting on his “special chair” and who knows what else? Even the Jim’ll Fix It badge necessitated every “successful” kid at least getting Jim up close and personal with them. A master manipulator in plain sight. This monster used Jim’ll Fix It, Top of the Pops, charity work, Radio 1, and anything else he could deploy to create a celebrity smokescreen/attraction. If there is a God, let’s hope the opposition claim him.
I just saw him as annoyingly "show-off"-ish. Didn't stop me writing in to Jim'll Fix It, in hopes f getting a wish fulfilled. (Got no reply, as far as I recall, let alone a positive one.)
In 1985 I remember someone saying to me that the Nurses at Stoke Mandeville hospital didn’t like him. I was a bit surprised but didn’t think much more of it. When the story came out I realised why.
I was in the military in the 80’s. We had a suggestions book in the mess for people to leave comments and recommendations. A friend who was 6”11 and didn’t have much to say got a plateful of food from the service counter then slowly walked over to the suggestions book, opened it up to the next page and upended his plate into it before storming out and grabbing another pint at the boozer.
The biggest myth "they censored Rotten" NO THEY DIDNT. And Rotten didn't reveal anything. All he said was JS looked creepy. The Pistols and Public Image Limited were on the bbc with every new record release. Rotten/Lydon was on things like Pop Quiz throughout the 80s, the clips are all on here. Lydon loves saying this but in no way what so ever was he banned from the bbc.
@@Cloughjordan23 Johnny's exact words were "I bet he's into all kinds of seediness that we all know about, but are not allowed to talk about. I know some rumours...". 0:57 here ruclips.net/video/Rjy8oLVOvi4/видео.html
@@Cloughjordan23 A ban, no. But the part of the interview he gave which is in that video was not broadcast at the time. All interviews are edited for broadcast, so whilst it might be somewhat OTT to call it censorship too, it's most definitely true that many people inside and outside the BBC knew what Saville was getting up to, or had heard those rumours, and they were prevented from doing anything because Saville was too powerful. No, Johnny didn't reveal any of the rumours, but he was careful not to step over a libellous line, as he says there. Watching a show about TOTP in the seventies (I think it was) there were recollections from people who were regular audience attendees on the show back then - applying for tickets when their favourite bands released singles in the hope of seeing them - and it was stated that they would hope and pray that Saville would not be the presenter on those occasions, because they knew from experience how creepy the guy was. Back in the days before long overdue reform in the last decade, UK libel laws were routinely used by rich and powerful people to, basically, silence people saying things they didn't want to be heard; and it didn't necessarily have to be libellous either. It was a case of money not just talking but shouting down those without riches. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/mar/10/english-libel-law-simon-singh
I think people did know about Saville, his sitting image puppet was always getting taken into prison, his puppet read out letters from kids for Saville not to go near them, and in one scene he was running away from police and men in white coats and jumped in bed with a corpse. So there's enough there to see people knew things were going on.
I met Saville briefly at a conference centre we were at to see someone else. He was busy doing some squats etc trying to look fit. We were 12 at the time and thought he looked ridiculous. Then he walked through the awning aisle we were standing in as if we were awaiting him and leered at us. Makes me sick to think of it. I had written to him a couple of years before with another friend hoping to get on his show. So glad we were unoriginal in our request to be dressed up in ballgowns and were rejected.
My uncle used to bump into Saville jogging around Scarborough, and always went on about what a lovely bloke he was! My Auntie always used to roll her eyes and say he was a dirty old creep!
My dad who passed away 2 years ago age 79 never like jimmy. Always said there was something off about him and he wasn't surprised when it all came out about him.
@@claymor8241 Sir Roger Jones, a decade before Saville died. He refused his offer to get involved with the charity. Sir Roger had clearly heard rumours and thought Saville was a "Creep".
Claire Neilson was one of our best comedy straight ladies. Worked with comedy legends like The Two Ronnies, John Cleese, and here with Rikki Fulton. Could do posh English ladies and rough Glaswegian beautifully.
I met J.S. at a 'Speak Easy' broadcast in 1973. I only spoke to him for a few moments and he came over as obnoxious then, but I was only 17 years of age, at the time, and I could not quite put my finger on why I felt so put off by him. I was not surprised when years later it all came out in the media about his abuse activities
Mate a wanted a simple “fuck off” or suhin ,calm down Pedophilia is the most vile form of human behaviour, it happens everywhere and I hope they all get what’s coming to them !
Michael. Oh, trust me they will! Please don't come at me with Kenmora, I'm aware of that, and no so called 'church' was directly behind that, not like the R.C. church is! By the way I don't need to swear to communicate!
Ulster 1690 lots of uneducated thick inbred retarded northern jock/mick scum on this thread... wish we could nuke the peasant North & just have South East England, Devon & Cornwall & Wales left... England would be great again without having to support all these northerners leeching off the benefit system
When he was still doing Top Of The Pops and Jim’ll Fix It, my teenage brothers, passing through the living room and seeing him onscreen, casually muttered “fkkn nonce!” and “kiddy fiddler” - with more venom than I’d ever heard them use. We had only recently got a TV, so I didn’t even know he was supposed to be anything special. To me he was just creepy and awkward. 20 years later in a regional BBC canteen, there were people asking for volunteers for Children In Need. Guy passing with a meal tray said, “Nah, don’t think so…” The one taking names immediately said, “Saville isn’t involved this year.” “Oh? So what day is it, again..?” This was late 90s, as I remember - at least a decade before he died.
Of course, the target of this sketch was British Rail, known for its long delays, than Jimmy Saville. As has been noted in other comments, Saville was promoting British Rail at the time and the man in the sketch was venting his anger that the late Saville was promoting BR, not for his behaviour. . But years later after what is now known about him, this sketch is a damming indictment of the man and perfectly sums up how people now feel about him.
I wish we could have this level of service back, at least she was conversing with him and nothing appeared wrapped in plastic. Nowadays, the best you'll get out of the person behind the counter is "Is there anything else?" No FFS, if I wanted anything else, I'd have asked!!
One of the rumours I heard about when I was a young soldier. No one gave specific evidence, but everyone was certain that 'Uncle Jimmy' liked children. Too much.
@@SiliconBong The distressing part is the BBC's complicity, and it was not just Savile. Even his driver, and others. Glitter's 'This is your life' slot, with him telling someone to be quiet about young girls, well that said a lot about the man who 'put the gang in bang'. I used to sing his songs when I was very young. The Beeb appears to have been a haven for them.
'..the BBC's complicity, and it was not just Savile. Even his driver, and others...'@@user-yl1xy5eg7b That's the edge of an 'iceberg of allegations' that still remains hidden. Considering the amount of people working on a television set of the times.
Really? Then how come the public don't remember the rumours? Think about it (if you're capable); if we'd all had our suspicions, it wouldn't have been such a shock when the truth came out.
I have to love how everybody says now, “Oh, I always knew Savile was a creep and a pervert”. Come on, let’s face it. He had us all fooled as we sat laughing our heads off at Jim’ll Fix It.
@@mewesquirrel6720 Ugly doesn't equate to nonce in every scenario though. I agree with the OP. So many bs artists here claiming they knew. No you didn't. I believe some thought him odd and full of himself but unless you had inside information you didn't 'know'.
He was my fave radio dj when I was a kid. I was approached by paedos a couple times and had a highly developed radar for that sort of thing, yet strangely never suspected Savile was creepy.
@@MBM1117727 Trust me, Jimmy Savile was never popular. The BBC gave him popular, prime time TV shows to front like 'Top of the Pops' and 'Jim'll Fix It', great formats produced to the highest standard. Those shows were absolute gifts for a predatory pervert to enjoy power over others, and access victims. But the man himself was beloved by precisely NO ONE. The Savile scandal is the story of a highly dangerous psychopath and malignant narcissist at the extreme end of the scale, able to exploit and dominate people to commit heinous crimes against at least hundreds possibly thousands of victims, unpunished (though not undetected) for 60 years. I was a TV producer/celebrity booker for 20 years, from 1990-2000 and was never once asked by any TV show I worked on (chat shows, entertainment shows, reality shows etc for every broadcaster and umpteen independent production companies), to book Savile. Why not? Because it was an open secret in TV he was not only a rapist and child molester, but a necrophile. If I, who had never worked with Savile, had heard he had a key to the morgue at the hospital/psychiatric facilities he ran to enjoy sex with corpses, you can be sure MANY people knew. It maybe wasn't common knowledge among the general public, because Savile's victims were the most vulnerable and least able to report him, and he was protected by powerful people at the top level. But as this TV comedy sketch proves, the public perception of Jimmy Savile was entirely negative. Had he been 'popular' as you suggest, the punchline to this sketch would not have worked.
@@glamdolly30 I'm not doubting his crimes weren't known among the entertainment industry or that there weren't a lot of people in the public who hated him. But I lot of the public loved him at the time too.
This was at the time when everybody moaned about the problems with British Rail even when their weren't any. Obviously the privatised service we have today is very much worse as anyone who has caught a train in the last 20 years will know. Slower, more overcrowded, more expensive and a far worse deal for British taxpayers. Still, at least Jimmy Saville is no longer an issue!
What are you talking about? its now over priced but the service is still better, 80's BR was shite, underfunded, unreliable, slower - nice old trains but badly maintained and dirty, stations falling apart, and under staffed. Oh and if you think Its overcrowded now, maybe thats because the Uk population has DOUBLED since 1980.
Facts don't stand in the way of TheMightyAntar. Facts like no politician in state-run British Rail ever, at any time, comprehending that money had to be set aside over the years to pay for new rolling stock, leading to 1980s railways still running on 19th-century railbeds with filthy 40 year old carriages and 30 year old engines that kept breaking down.
When my stepfather was in the military he was at a bar when he was stationed in Gibraltar and he was talking to the DJ and on the news it was about Jimmy Savile and the DJ said to my stepfather that if Savile wasn't famous and a Radio DJ he would be in prison in this was the early 70s.
He threw food on Savile's face and I bet in every person they'd like to throw something on Savile. I wish that this show got the actual Jimmy Savile put him in scenes where he opens the door 🚪 when he says "Hi there." someone just throws glass on his face it would make great TV. I bet the writer of this episode knew of Jimmy's true nature before he was revealed to being a child rapist and that's why he wrote this scene.
Jade Pixie Not really Jimmy Saville was the face of British rail just listen to how badly the guy complains about the train service even the woman severing food is a mess.
Rikki Fulton would have been well aware of the murky reputation that Saville had in the industry. In Scotland, at least. I heard mention of him actually in the BBC canteen in Queen Margaret Drive - probably five or six years after this sketch was made, probably. He had been totally sussed by the ordinary staff in Queen Margaret drive (and therefore the entire entertainment industry, as far as Scotland goes).
The joke is being missed by many. At the time Savile was advertising British Rail "Let the Train Take the Strain" the protaganist was angry about the terrible journey. Many felt Savile was creepy but the enormity of his disgusting behaviour wasn't known until later.
Shhh…don’t tell them that!! All the “they knew” brigade love their 2+2=5 theories…
What about his good charity works!!
As a young child I thought he was creepy, but of course, I had no clue what he really was.
While that is true EVERYONE at the BBC. Especially the higher-ups. ALL knew he (and others) were at it. In fact, if you missed it, the Savile case was used to blind the public from all the other abusers and those who let it go on.
PS:
Heres a fun game for you. Look up the art scuptures, located throughout the original BBC building (the one they now use). Note the artists 'muses' in his work. And the fact (back in the 1920/30's) that he was a known serial abuser of the young.
In fact, one guy tried to destroy one of the statues (outside the building), done by this artist. I believe, the media didn't mention the actual artists background/crimes.
To finish, the BBC ...still have ALL that art work on display. Throughout the building. Its all 'list art' now. How nice. Hiding things ..'in plain sight'.
@@andrewclavin7447 ...... & Hitler liked dogs, still does not make them good people!
At the time, Jimmy was a top advertiser for British Rail, hence the delayed traveller's anger.
Imagine the anger now.
And Gary Glitter did their young persons rail card. Even sang wanna be in my gang.
Jimmy was a good man, he fixed it for me tae milk a cow blindfolded
So sick and twisted,,, 😉@@G4RY1159
@@G4RY1159How many teats did it have? Let me quess... one! 😂😂😂
Reading threads like this always make me very proud of my dad, who died many years before Savile was exposed but always thought him a creep and a weirdo and would regularly say so when I was growing up. He turned out to be an excellent judge of character.
i thought every knew he was a noncy creep he didnt try to hide it
Oh yes my dad was exactly the same! It's funny also how dad's views rub off on us, as I felt exactly the same about everyone. He always ruled the remote in our house but it didn't bother us haha, he'd turn over Jimmy, and Bruce Forsyth funnily enough! Loved all of The Goons tho'.
The British defamation laws are too strict.
Cheers.
RIP, be to your Father.
I was too naïve to think anything sinister about him. But I simply couldn’t understand his appeal or attraction. I didn’t get what people liked about him. Quite different to Rolf Harris who seemed genuinely talented and humane.
The reference in the sketch is obviously relating to British Rail, however, many folks at the time thought Savile was a creepy weirdo. Used to hate him hosting TOTP.
@@cricketbat09 bet you watched every week
Having been born in 1946, I grew up through the Saville years. He became ubiquitous on tv, featuring in a lot of different programmes. I could never understand why. In comparison to the John Peels, DLTs and the rest, Savile stood out like the proverbial sore thumb! He simply never fitted at all into that world as far as I could see. It was very strange to me.
You are so right, good old DLT only sexual assaulted women who were at least 15. Peely only admitted to having sex with "a lot of underage girls", and his wife was 15, but as far as we know all consensual.
@@AndrewLakeUK part of the bbc ,dj job requirement dodgy nonces only
@@AndrewLakeUK Well said. Travis looked like a fumbling, chuckling ELO bear. Peel was the cool cassette-accepting beardy you really wanted to meet. What they did with underage children was to us civilians rock and, to a large extent, roll.
Yes my eldest sister included, her view is 'well that's just what we did back then'! Hmm. @@AndrewLakeUK
I seem to remember that even Tony Blackburn was sacked by the BBC at one point for having sex with a fourteen year old girl, but they reinstated him when he threatened them with some kind of exposure or legal action.
I remember this one! It's aimed at British Rail, but it has new meaning now.
I think, that was the meaning all along.
🤔👍🇬🇧
Completely right👍
- Saville's pic is only in the sketch because he did BR adverts - no other reason
- classic misinterperitation - guess you had to be there in the 70s / 80s 😂
repent gg
The Young ONes had a bit about British Rail. I don't think they ever did a bit about Savile though.
They dont make paper plates like they used to
It wasn't paper. It was Jimmy's crusty spunk ladened pants.
I M i knw right! if tht was today the plate wyd hav broke when she put the first splat on😂
T-Bag what a lovely image
It's fucking bulletproof as-well.
haha
At that time JS was the face of BR. He was in all their ads. Announcer says the train was 7 hrs late- Rikki's character just arrived on it. He takes out his anger on JS poster. Hardly anyone knew what JS was really like in those days. I grew up with him on TV. He was cringe but also unique, and strangely mesmerising to kids. We were so used to seeing him on telly that he was just part of the establishment. There was nobody to compare him to. Personally, I was too young and innocent to even imagine what he was about.
He made my skin crawl even before the revelations about him, he was so creepy.
They knew.
@@ratusbagus of course they knew. He's and they are freemasons.
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Very true.. his eyes would amaze me as a child and flet a creepiness about him being too young I watch my family laugh and laugh so thinking he must be a great man..not
As an American looking from the outside I always thought Saville was creepy as fuck with that leering face...as the stories surfaced I wasn't surprised of who he was ....but the power and keys to Broadmoor?! Total madness
He could also be highly intimidating. He was also super fit and had once been a professional wrestler, he also claimed to know IRA terrorists who would do a job on you on his say so, probably bullshit, but it would still make you think. Oh yes, Savile was a nasty piece of work.
El Leeway He raped dead disabled children too with his keys to the mortuary. Then the establishment made him the no.1 kids entertainer! They like to mock us with these false idols.
El Leeway the funny thing is, over here, that's how we see trump!
I'm sure, hahaha....I'm a native New Yorker so I've had to see his mug for decades
El LeewayIt seems total madness from this side of the pond as well. I don't know anyone who can understand how anyone could hand over the keys to Broadmoor to a tv presenter!! It is total madness and has never been explained. I also think his popularity was greatly over rated, he presented top of the pops which people watched for the music not the presenters and he presented Jim'll fix it which was a great format which would have worked with any presenter and like every other child I thought he was a creep.
Why arent the BBC staff who knew about Savile in jail !?!!?
Because the big money they make pays off the feds government and everyone else
In English please.
It makes sense sorry
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Money
Because they're all dead, nugget!
My wife and I lived in Leeds in the 90's and would often see him skulking around the headrow in his track suite and bling, My wife used to say he was a pervert back then.
Weird... I've lived in Leeds since 1977 and never saw him once. Not complaining or anything. :D
DickheadCyclecam you’re lucky.
@@DickheadCyclecam Really fooking lucky! No worry about a creepy pedo
My mother used to say that about him in the 70's. And that was just from watching him on tv
I knew when he was hanging around Stoke Mandeville no one would do anything cos he brought money in for the kids so sick
Genuinely looks like my school dinners in early 80’s UK
A great improvemnet on the school dinners of the mid to late 70s.
The Dinner Lady at my school had a massive mole on her face with hairs protruding and she always put me off my gruel
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 and in the 50’s believe it or not….they used to to throw lumps of liver on the plate with their bare hands 🤮 bunch of miserable crazies back then
It's because at the time Savile was the face of British Rail. Savile did TV Adverts advertising British Rail.
Savile probably abused Thomas the Tank Engine at the time too as poor Edward looked on.
Brian Ferry
Were Edwards eyes revolving really quickly as he watched ?
poor Thomas, I heard he's an alcoholic now
Heath?
Cyril Smith?
Robin Hood Hes a great guy
I've watched this sketch dozens of times over the years.
It still gets me every time.
Fucking hilarious!
Some people do good and you feel they are genuinely good people. Despite all the charity stuff, you never warmed to Savile as a person.
Plenty of retards did.
Line Sher
And now they’ve got Alex Belend 😂
Much was made of his charity work, but one wonders if there was an ulterior motive behind it all?
I did my first London Marathon in 1989 and passed him in South London glad handing the crowd. He never never passed me, but finished earlier than I did!
Goes for all the Billionaires
Bill Gates comes to mind
Margret Thatcher was instrumental in getting him his knighthood and they also spent many a christmas together!! King Charles was rather fond of him as well!! scary
Starmer failed to prosecute him and funnily enough they both have facial warts and a high pitched voice too lol
@RAXM-mk1kl Starmer was not working in the dept at time and had no involvement. Boris Johnson falsely accused him of covering JS case up and was made to apologise to Starmer. Get your facts straight.
@@RAXM-mk1kl Oh do stop this lie.
If you really believe your lie to be true. then have the guts not to childishly hide it on here. Send your precise accusations to the Labour Party Central Office signed.
Or grow up.
She wasn’t aware of his deeds or reputation. This is all down to the BBC
Next up...PaedoDome and the Celtic Boys Club.
Many years ago, my late dad used to comment about him when he had a radio show on BBC radio 2, Sunday mornings, I recall, back in the late 70s/early 80s. JS would brag off about not actually at the radio station, but on a marathon, or some other event.
My dad despised him, and always reckoned he was a wrong un! How true that became!
Thankfully, my late dad was around to see JS's downfall, albeit after the appalling deeds committed being discovered after his death.
First time I saw him on the TV, I called him a creep. It's that thing behind the eyes, a twisted soul.
I grew up with him on the tv , I used to say I didn’t like him all the time just gave me the creeps, I wasn’t wrong 🤬
I remember speaking to a Mum whose daughter had been on Fix it. I asked what Saville was like with the children before the show. She said that the production team ensured that there was no contact until they met on the set. They knew what he was like and the risks involved.
While on a cruise ship in the 70s,he tried to make sexual advances towards a 14-year-old girl and was locked in his cabin by the ship's staff until they reached port!
he messed with a kid just after a show while he was wearing his badge
i bet his parents were wondering why the boy was crying and threw away his badge
@@rjjcms1that's a well known incident, even more shocking when he used his wealth and connections to get a private yacht to pull up alongside during the night and jumped from the porthole onto its deck! I believe it was Epstein's private yacht? So instead of one 14-year-old victim it's reported that he enjoyed himself with a veritable smorgasbord of girls aged from 8 to 15 years of age, one of whom is now middle-aged and quite highly ranking in the entertainment industry.
She wrote of witnessing Savile lead a dark ritual that was conducted as they crossed the prime meridian, and that the sacrifice offering was cast into the English Channel under a full moon, after being drained of blood which all present were forced to drink.
It's really shocking.
And yet still paid him with license payers money
@@steelwheel-i3sand who was this mega talent you talk about....?
Riki Fulton could make an entire theatre burst into laughter just by walking on stage
I love that he picks the sloppiest option each time
I can't believe it's actual real food
I always remember when we were in the energy crisis and were all issued with petrol coupons. Saville showed his true nature by buying a whole petrol station for himself so he was guaranteed fuel. This was a first insight in to the true nature of this particulat beast nurtured by the BBC. Luckily we never had to use these coupons.
I still have the coupons...
...but not the car.
I love how charities are now struggling since Saville is no longer around to raise money for them.
@@andrewward2010 why is that a good thing? Charities are not responsible for what he did and were being fooled like everyone else. They do, most of them, good jobs of helping others, so if he dragged them down it can only mean that's a bad thing, isn't it?
@@JordySchaap These Blue and Yellow flags have become the" Jim'll fix it" badges ,sheeple are waking up and the flags are all but gone.
Does this mean if I receive appalling service at Butlins, I can throw Mince, potato mash, custard, beans and porridge at Stephen Mulhern's mugshot.?
I was wondering what this had to do with Jimmy Savile. When he lobbed the plate, I was dying XD
Savile used to do the Ads for British Rail back in the 80s
@@darrenwells2277 I know
repent gg
You were dying? What the fuck does that mean, moron?
I once met up with Savile when we were both running in Regent's Park in the early '80s. I was jogging along with him for ten minutes or so and chatting and he came across as a rather obnoxious figure. I didn't warm to him at all.
How old were you lol ?
@@goodplacereviewer2495 too old fortunately
being obnoxious is easy to spot but that's not why he is now seen as a villain
I knew in 1970. I started college and a couple of people from Yorkshire put me very straight about him.
That really is appalling. Mind you, I've heard Paul Gadd was known about in his local area.
So why didn’t you report this information to the authorities?
@@claymor8241 How do you know he didn't?
And what would the authorities have done?
Nothing is the answer you dopey muppet.
@@claymor8241looooool what a response😂
@@claymor8241 it’s ok saying why didn’t you report it but he had friends in very high places. A night patrol constable caught him in his rolls Royce with a 13 year old girl when he reported it to his chief inspector his notebook was taken off him and he was told to forget everything he had seen.
Reading a bit much into the Saville connection. I think there's a tendency to look at any retrospective reference to him in old comedy shows etc and to think they were trying to hint at his dark secrets. I don't see it here. A lot of the public found him simply annoying.
darkdubh Spot on. And of course, the guy was moaning about the long delayed train journey he had just had, and at the time, Saville was the "advertisement face" of British Rail. Still, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory - obviously someone with knowledge of what was going on would write a comedy sketch of someone throwing food at a BR Saville photo, rather than... you know, alert someone (even if people think they were all "in on it", some newspapers would have loved such a scoop)
SAVILLE leeds CRIME SCENE freemason---- EVERYBODY KNEW.
Yes, I agree. As a young lad in the eighties I had no idea that he was a nonce but I did think that he was an annoying, smug and self-aggrandizing prick.
He was a high level Mason and they protected him, so did the police, so did the BBC stop paying your licence immediately if you have any sence... to think the public where paying to be abused and brain washed
@@MsRichycon I got rid of my telly years ago when this first came to light. I objected to the quality of programming and having to pay for a brainwashing operation.
When I was a young man I used to laugh at those religious people who didn't own telly's because they feared that programmes were intended to err, programme you! 😂
But alas, it turns out that in that aspect at least, they were right. I ain't laughing now.
Perfect: You think "Where is this going" the whole time and you get it in a split second.
i thought he might throw it at her😂
I miss railway station buffets like this. Now we have soulless Starbucks or Costa lot for a coffee
I know exactly what you mean. Central Station (Sydney) use to have a good basic cafe on the main concourse, now it's been replaced by a trendy expensive cafe/restaurant!
Hahaha that’s what I call call it ‘Costa lot’
Being the "tea boy" in my first job, I was sent daily to buy bacon rolls from a nearby cafe. The old gal in there looked like that woman in the sketch - Cigarette hanging out of her mouth, coughing continuously, but the thing I always noted were her filthy black fingernails. She looked like she'd just come in from fixing a car. I never bought a roll, and enjoyed watching my workmates scoffing theirs.
What's so special about this though? Places like this look extremely grotty and filthy
Maybe there was no need, once the trains were only an hour, or so late, rather than the customary longer 8 and 9 hours late?
Actually a very well-written sketch.
Only on the basis he promoted the inter city trains.
Good point - 2 familiar and opposing stereotypes, destined to have their “moment” - but they got along absolutely fine and the punchline was off to the side.
repent gg
@@KarmasAbutch wtf are u waffling about
Rikki Fulton was one of Scotlands great comedians.
This was from a show called 'Scotch and Wry'.
Ricky Fulton was a legend. I remember this sketch well. I used to watch it frequently when I visited my grandparents.
What is the show ?
@@alanjones5786 Scotch and Wry.
Thanks, can't find any episodes, not on Netflix or iplayer. Love still game, has to be the best comedy show by far. Genius. I'm English BTW.
@@roundboisnaxalot13 found loads on RUclips thanks again for the heads up.
@@alanjones5786 ruclips.net/video/h0XbN_SiUTo/видео.htmlsi=GY44bowSOhKe6Cu0
Im 68 now, 'Let the train take the strain' was the ad on TV I think it was. When I was a young man into the music scene this guy used to gross me out as it was obvious to any 16 or 17 year old at the time, he was a dirty twisted old git. I could never stand him or in fact any other Disc Jockey for that matter. Top of the Pops was just to creepy. I got into the old Grey whistle test. loved that.
Steve Wright is still there on my customers’ radios every bloody afternoon , spewing out the exact same cosy pointless tunes and trivia and supported by his equally smug little gang as if it were still 1985. God knows how he’s got away with it . It says something about daytime ‘ music ‘ radio in England and the folk of my generation whom don’t seem capable of moving beyond to something new or more interesting or important. Hell I won’t knock ‘ successful’ folk for the sake of it but when you then hear about the huge wages this guy gets one hopes he shares some of it with more deserving causes. I recently read one DJ or comedian saying Steve was the first hilarious DJ on British radio. Wright was at his best a watered down Kenny Everett copies. I dunno which is worst , celebrity old fart DJs or generic local and commercial ones . 🙄👍
You're correct.
Steve Wright was ace back in the 80's, now he's on radio 2 his style of show is fun and nostalgic but left of mainstream.
Things like this are subject to opinion not matter of fact.
Tf are you saying mate lol
It was actually "This is the age of the train" when he was used to be advertise British Rail.
My dads job involved working to a tolerance of 100 thousands of an inch. He sliced the ham for British rail sandwiches.
They later trained him to weld so he could put the crusts on the meat pies
Fine British cuisine. The kind that gave us our rightful culinary reputation.
Well today uk has food from all over the world right?
As the salmonella capital of the world! And then people came in from the sub continent and improved the cuisine, thank God.
@@searchingforfoodonyoutube2500 Yes, it does. But there was a time when things were truly bad and that was it, back in the early seventies.
You realise my tongue was placed firmly in my cheek when I posted this right?
@@bmt3315 Chill, my comment to you was just a bit of dark humour, not meant as snappy. And the other bloke asked a question so I just gave him a reasonable answer.
I like fish and chips anyway. So long as the fish is crisp and chips are fluffy on the inside, not blathered in grease. 😄
As an American with Scottish ancestry, I am stunned to hear about the horrible sex crimes he did and how they make Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and Bill Cosby look tame. It really is shocking to hear about. Though, I can understand certain British people when they say he gave them the creeps even when he was alive. The fact that he was doing charity work in order to get away with his horrific sex crimes and the fact that numerous allegations weren't really made public until shortly after his death really is something.
He also had access to the hospital morgue. He really was a monster.
@@TheGodParticle I did hear was given free access to Stoke Mandeville Hospital. That being said, I really doubt he would get away with his horrific sex crimes scot-free today.
John Lydon was banned by the BBC for stating "well we all know what Jimmy saville is" back in 79. he was well protected by the BBC and the tory party who he donated large sums of money to
@@TheGodParticle In Yorkshire we would call him A Buggar! If you know what I mean.
Cosby drugged women then raped them. There's no making that look "tame".
Everybody says 'the bbc protected him' but why would they have known? Youd do better to ask why Broadmoor and Stoke Mandeville hospitals allowed him to roam around children wards unsupervised out of hours.
why people saw savile as a national treasure when he walked on this planet i will never truly understand apart from the fact he did much to charity, which was only a disguise for his charitable acivities
catholic..........he was allegedly a practising Roman Catholic - maybe he thought instead of doing a few "Hail Mary's" for his Sins that doing 'good deeds' would somehow absolve him of them.
@@elizabethsheffield6609 He went to mass regularly, even having links to the Jesuits.
It was a spell. The collective said “he was a great guy” and everyone went along with it, although they knew deep down he was a wrong un. People just go with the herd. It’s sad.
BBC brain washing and covering up. They helped quite a lot of their male presenters who were child molesters.
I think because most people (kids mainly) saw him as this affable, goofy bloke who was always having a laugh. Some people knew what he was I think, not because they'd necessarily worked it out but had experience of what he was really like or had had people confide in them.
John Lydon's (Johnny Rotten) thoughts about him made for a chilling interview. He himself or someone he knew must have been affected by Savile.
As someone who has taken the train from Ardrossan to Glasgow Central many times; I feel his pain.
Your lucky the trains were runnin
@@G4RY1159 I mean, they sometimes weren't, Gary. I remember there being a replacement bus service on Sundays for what felt like an age.
It was especially annoying because I worked on Sundays and had to get the last bus back to Ardrossan. A person could lose their will to live on the replacement bus service.
Fortunately, having grown up in Ardrossan; I never had one to begin with.
@@DrMcMoist I'm in Ayrshire too 😔
Johnny Rotten spoke out about him in the 70s too.
Then continued to do nothing about it at all
@@dandlion7748 What was he supposed to do exactly? He wasn't management. He said it on live TV. Which would have got him in hot water in the first place. He's always maintained his position. He was a Punk musician not a Social Worker.
@@millyjames7891he was supposed to run to a phone box and transform into Punkman and stop this evildoer! 😡
@@adrianred236 Yes. He said he had "heard stories". Do you know what hearsay is? It's inadmissible, that's what it is
@@dandlion7748he got banned from TV for making the claim, the BBC then made out that Johnny was a trouble maker ...
Vile man, but the BBC protected him
And how many others?
@@wattage2007 he had police friends that came over to his house for a meeting every friday... one person just can't pull this off, if you watch the doc it becomes obvious that he had backup, like big time, and I'm not talking about the quiet victims that were too afraid to talk. For example, the Police received an anonymous letter in a different location, so they sent it to Leeds police (where his cop friends are, remember) and nothing came out of it, they didn't investigate anything... the letter just went away. Jee, I wonder why? This guy was feeling extremely safe, almost like higher ups gave him the ok to do whatever he pleases and just silence everything. I mean people DID talk, but the media and officials didn't take anything of it seriously, well that's at least how it looked like from an outside perspective. but I think many were in on it in some shape or form. They didn't talk about it on purpose. He's not the only predator out there, they network wich is why shit like that can even take place. It wasn't like two times, he molested over 400 Kids. I refuse to believe you can fly under the radar for so long without any "support".
@@numbblackpicture Absolutely. Seems like it’s rife throughout the higher levels of every one of our supposed trusted organisations.
@@numbblackpicture not forgetting his Royal connections and being round at Maggie Thatcher's for Xmas. He was untouchable
@@portylad and that.. well, I wouldn't raise half an eybrow if it were to came out (wich it never will) that the royals are also quite fond of human trafficking and other crimes.
I was laughing my ass off.............you simply don`t spot that ending..............great punchline.......❤
I thought it would end with him seeing Jimmy Savile and saying he'd lost his appetite.
This is the definitive example of the term "that aged well".
The late great Rikki Fulton a very underrated comedy actor.
Not in Scotland.
And over-travelled! Some kind of Journey man within theatre circles I take it.
@@lexiwilson9501 Really miss the Hogmanay ritual of getting back from the pub in time for a bit of Scotch & Rye and some Black Bun. But they would more likly have it deep fired these day's, if you know what I mean .. 🙂
@@thepumpkingking8339 Hullo ! Reverend I.M. Jolly,
Could also do some serious acting ('Gorky Park' and 'Local Hero' come to mind). And Molière in Scots on stage.
Also Leon brittan, greval janner, Cyril Smith,
Nothing was actually said about Savile in this sketch, apart from he and British Rail were both annoying.
"Are you not entertained?!!"
Might wish to write to the script-writer about that one.....maybe it was personal.
Songwriters do similar when they inject lyrics into songs...can be clever stuff.
It said in the title : 'for the wrong reason' - Jimmy Savile used to be the face & voice for British Rail. He used the train to get between his homes in Leeds, Scarborough (pronounced Scar - bru and Glen Coe) also London. He was well known enough he used to say 'This is the age of the train' , before they said 'let the train take the strain' . In the sketch the Scottish feller had spent 9 hours on a train. Enters a BR caff (emblazoned with the BR logo) We think he wants a meal, but is merely getting enough slop together to throw at the leering ugly mug of Sir Jimmy the Paedo Savile!
I is from Yorkshie innit Bro. This is aimed at the numptys from across the pond who say Scar-bo ro. as 3 sylables . I could have said 'Scar-burra' But they'd still go Scar-ro ro. So Scar-bru is the best compromise. But that is how we say it in Yorkshire. Scarborough is on the east Coast of Yorkshire!
Where we would say Edin-bru. Scar-bru Luff-bru, and Middles-bru!
I hate the way they say glas-cow and mos-cow
The reason why Jimmy Saville's picture was his target was because the man had just had a 9 hour train delay and at the time Saville headed up an advertising campaign for British Rail. Nothing to do with his abuse, back then the public didn't have a clue.
Pretty sure they had an idea… check out Jerry Sadowitz or John Lydon talking about him.
Creepiness oozed out that beast
I would have thought it was internal culture. Those in the industry know, decades before. Look at recent russel brand example.
The slogan for the advert was “This is the age of the train”.
During my first train ride with my mum I sat down on a chair and a huge cloud of dust rose up from it. I said, “Look Mum. This is the age of the train” as I patted the seat to make more and more dust rise up.
All the other passengers were laughing at me but I didn’t really understand why it was funny.
I honestly thought that the slogan was referring to how old the trains were.
To me...lt seems that people in the BBC and in the media, knew about Savile and what he was doing from way back...But of cource didn't do anything about it...
They wanted to keep breathing,i you catch my drift.
Never trust a Stone Mason.
@ Nik Reece - The guy's attacking the poster because JS was the face of British Rail's promotional TV adverts and poster campaign. it's got fuck all to do with his sex abuse antics.
BestCan...... People at the BBC did know. And they didn't think it just a "reflection of the situation at the time" - they simply didn't speak up.
Desperate Mohammedan the World's Strongest Arab.... really?....l think you'll find their actually had been rumours about savile for years at the BBC...
Ricky Fulton's sketches on Hogmanay night are comedy gold. There's no doubt he was throwing that plate at Savile not only because of his train ads. Savile was one creepy mf at the time.
js was known about for decades! All the nurses at a certain large hospital in the capital would tell the children on the ward “if uncle jimmy walks on to the ward pretend to be asleep!” It makes me feel physically sick to hear/watch/read about the things he was said to have done that came out to the public after he died, why was he protected? 🤢😤🤯
It's extraordinary that he was not prosecuted by the CPS due to "lack of evidence".
Just don't pretend to be DEAD ...
one of the ways he got away with it was people would say things like "at a certain large hospital" what difference does it make saying the name. no one is going to sue you.
@@lararae3017 it wouldn’t take much searching tho & I don’t want to end up in a law court being accused of libel!
One word ROYALTY .
I remember Saville being on tv in the 80s when i was a kid and he always seemed creepy
The Captain of QE2 confined him to his cabin and threw him off at the next port for misdemeanours to young children. Some people wouldn't rightly go along.
No it was the SS Canberra
Should have been the Titanic
QE2 SS Canberra, are we sure this isn't an urban myth ?
I'm sure it was the Marie Celeste.
That's a strong paper plate.
If you look carefully it's two plates!
Big Up Ardrossan you all are firmly on the Globap Map 🏴 👍
That was mocking the advert Savile did for British Rail. Its not a comment on his sexual assaults.
No, but it said a lot about the situation as a whole.
@user-yl1xy5eg7b Not really. The context is a 9 hour train journey to Scotland and nothing to do with the crimes of Savile. You can't look at this with the eyes of 2023 because it does fit.The joke and it was funny is the standard custard pie in the face.
The Savile advert was huge in the 70"s and that is the only context to see this joke.
@@chrismarsh8162 I lived through those times. When I was posted to BAOR people I served with used to make 'nervous' jokes about Savile and what he did. Many people in show business knew. Peter Parker despised the man.
@@user-yl1xy5eg7b I worked in Television Centre and I even knew personally one of the TOTP production team. Notwithstanding all the wise-after-the-event statements, there _was_ no open secret, there were no rumours.
They all knew at the BBC. But think about it, would anything have been done if someone had put in a complaint? ...Of course not. He was protected.
That's what sickens me the most. Think of how many people must've known what Savile was up to and hushed it up. I still think the overall thing was poorly policed and dozens of protectors of Savile got away unpunished.
ruclips.net/video/TFEZkoJQ4DA/видео.html
Who all knew at the BBC?
Contrary to received wisdom, the Corporation wasn't rife with rumors about Savile.
Right so the cleaners, lighting crews, sound people, secretaries, maintenance men, all saw children being abused and put their coats on and went home to their own families without another word or thought? What kind of moronic planet do you live on?
As a young kid, only seeing Saville on tv, I looked up to him. I had no sense of the creepiness and thought he was benevolent and kind. I'm sure many kids in the UK felt the same- those of us fortunate enough not to have had one of those terrible encounters
The sad thing was that children at the time saw Jim’ll Fix It as a means of achieving their dreams. The truth is that a despicable pervert had inveigled his way into this situation and used it to lure kids into sitting on his “special chair” and who knows what else? Even the Jim’ll Fix It badge necessitated every “successful” kid at least getting Jim up close and personal with them. A master manipulator in plain sight. This monster used Jim’ll Fix It, Top of the Pops, charity work, Radio 1, and anything else he could deploy to create a celebrity smokescreen/attraction. If there is a God, let’s hope the opposition claim him.
He came across as a creep to me even then
I just saw him as annoyingly "show-off"-ish. Didn't stop me writing in to Jim'll Fix It, in hopes f getting a wish fulfilled. (Got no reply, as far as I recall, let alone a positive one.)
Me too! I never got a reply and was disappointed. I had no idea about him.
I’ve see this before so knew what the ending was but seeing it again still made me howl
No mud seems to have stuck on both St James hospital Leeds, and Stoke Mandeville, both of which gave him on site accommodation.
Also: he was ugly and not very tall
It was Leeds Infirmary, not St James's, which is an entirely different hospital
@@cluds136 It was, thank you for your correction. I apologise for my error.
@@cluds136it's inaccuracies like this that drive me mad. You're correct it was LGI and he didn't have accommodation there. So many lies about him.
In 1985 I remember someone saying to me that the Nurses at Stoke Mandeville hospital didn’t like him. I was a bit surprised but didn’t think much more of it. When the story came out I realised why.
I was in the military in the 80’s. We had a suggestions book in the mess for people to leave comments and recommendations. A friend who was 6”11 and didn’t have much to say got a plateful of food from the service counter then slowly walked over to the suggestions book, opened it up to the next page and upended his plate into it before storming out and grabbing another pint at the boozer.
I think this was a reference to Jimmy Savile advertising for British Rail rather than his offending….let the train take the strain
Of course the BBC was right about Saville, they knew it was going on. That's why they censored Johnny Rotten.
Pedro Vaz yes that's why George Orwell was such an intelligent man.
The biggest myth "they censored Rotten" NO THEY DIDNT. And Rotten didn't reveal anything. All he said was JS looked creepy. The Pistols and Public Image Limited were on the bbc with every new record release. Rotten/Lydon was on things like Pop Quiz throughout the 80s, the clips are all on here. Lydon loves saying this but in no way what so ever was he banned from the bbc.
@@Cloughjordan23 Johnny's exact words were "I bet he's into all kinds of seediness that we all know about, but are not allowed to talk about. I know some rumours...".
0:57 here ruclips.net/video/Rjy8oLVOvi4/видео.html
@@ShanghaiRooster and he didn't reveal any rumours. And he didn't get a bbc ban for hinting at so.
@@Cloughjordan23 A ban, no. But the part of the interview he gave which is in that video was not broadcast at the time. All interviews are edited for broadcast, so whilst it might be somewhat OTT to call it censorship too, it's most definitely true that many people inside and outside the BBC knew what Saville was getting up to, or had heard those rumours, and they were prevented from doing anything because Saville was too powerful. No, Johnny didn't reveal any of the rumours, but he was careful not to step over a libellous line, as he says there.
Watching a show about TOTP in the seventies (I think it was) there were recollections from people who were regular audience attendees on the show back then - applying for tickets when their favourite bands released singles in the hope of seeing them - and it was stated that they would hope and pray that Saville would not be the presenter on those occasions, because they knew from experience how creepy the guy was.
Back in the days before long overdue reform in the last decade, UK libel laws were routinely used by rich and powerful people to, basically, silence people saying things they didn't want to be heard; and it didn't necessarily have to be libellous either. It was a case of money not just talking but shouting down those without riches.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/mar/10/english-libel-law-simon-singh
Everyone at the BBC was aware of him,people was told not to be left alone with him
It was commenting on the trains being late and Saville being the advertising face of British Rail.
I think people did know about Saville, his sitting image puppet was always getting taken into prison, his puppet read out letters from kids for Saville not to go near them, and in one scene he was running away from police and men in white coats and jumped in bed with a corpse. So there's enough there to see people knew things were going on.
It reminds me of a time I threw a KFC famous bowl at a picture of Bill Cosby here in America.
Wow no idea how this got on my list today, but good old Scotch and Wry. So much missed now at Hogmanay.
I met Saville briefly at a conference centre we were at to see someone else. He was busy doing some squats etc trying to look fit. We were 12 at the time and thought he looked ridiculous. Then he walked through the awning aisle we were standing in as if we were awaiting him and leered at us. Makes me sick to think of it. I had written to him a couple of years before with another friend hoping to get on his show. So glad we were unoriginal in our request to be dressed up in ballgowns and were rejected.
My uncle used to bump into Saville jogging around Scarborough, and always went on about what a lovely bloke he was! My Auntie always used to roll her eyes and say he was a dirty old creep!
Saville was on the British rail adverts of the time , the sketch is a go at him for the terrible train service …… nothing else !!!
My dad who passed away 2 years ago age 79 never like jimmy. Always said there was something off about him and he wasn't surprised when it all came out about him.
Funny they never let him near the "children in need" telethons.
The guy who ran it said to Esther Rantzan "Keep Saville, the hell away from the kids"
They all knew then did'nt they?
@@vintagebrew1057 Who said that? What’s his name? When did he say it?
@@claymor8241 Sir Roger Jones, a decade before Saville died. He refused his offer to get involved with the charity. Sir Roger had clearly heard rumours and thought Saville was a "Creep".
Claire Neilson was one of our best comedy straight ladies. Worked with comedy legends like The Two Ronnies, John Cleese, and here with Rikki Fulton. Could do posh English ladies and rough Glaswegian beautifully.
And in serious roles. She was marvellous in _Gun Fight At The Joe Kaye Corral._
woah...I didn't recognise in that character
FANTASTIC It's Rikki Fulton... What a guy ! one of the best.
I met J.S. at a 'Speak Easy' broadcast in 1973. I only spoke to him for a few moments and he came over as obnoxious then, but I was only 17 years of age, at the time, and I could not quite put my finger on why I felt so put off by him. I was not surprised when years later it all came out in the media about his abuse activities
Mate a wanted a simple “fuck off” or suhin ,calm down
Pedophilia is the most vile form of human behaviour, it happens everywhere and I hope they all get what’s coming to them !
Michael. Oh, trust me they will! Please don't come at me with Kenmora, I'm aware of that, and no so called 'church' was directly behind that, not like the R.C. church is! By the way I don't need to swear to communicate!
Ulster 1690 lots of uneducated thick inbred retarded northern jock/mick scum on this thread... wish we could nuke the peasant North & just have South East England, Devon & Cornwall & Wales left... England would be great again without having to support all these northerners leeching off the benefit system
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Done , wit noo?
You were lucky that, at 17 years old, you were too old for Saville. Otherwise he might well had put his finger on you. Or in you!
At 1:46 I was like where's the Jimmy saville bit, oh wait....
When he was still doing Top Of The Pops and Jim’ll Fix It, my teenage brothers, passing through the living room and seeing him onscreen, casually muttered “fkkn nonce!” and “kiddy fiddler” - with more venom than I’d ever heard them use. We had only recently got a TV, so I didn’t even know he was supposed to be anything special. To me he was just creepy and awkward.
20 years later in a regional BBC canteen, there were people asking for volunteers for Children In Need.
Guy passing with a meal tray said, “Nah, don’t think so…”
The one taking names immediately said, “Saville isn’t involved this year.”
“Oh? So what day is it, again..?”
This was late 90s, as I remember - at least a decade before he died.
I was beginning to wonder what this stretch would have to do with Savile until the end
Of course, the target of this sketch was British Rail, known for its long delays, than Jimmy Saville. As has been noted in other comments, Saville was promoting British Rail at the time and the man in the sketch was venting his anger that the late Saville was promoting BR, not for his behaviour. . But years later after what is now known about him, this sketch is a damming indictment of the man and perfectly sums up how people now feel about him.
It does make me wonder what exactly was "the age of the train", involved in those adverts.
I wish we could have this level of service back, at least she was conversing with him and nothing appeared wrapped in plastic. Nowadays, the best you'll get out of the person behind the counter is "Is there anything else?" No FFS, if I wanted anything else, I'd have asked!!
Nowadays you pay £9 for a cup of coffee and salted stale sandwich
Only if you're braindead
And that's just from Starbucks...
Many people supposedly - supposedly - "knew all about" Jimmy Savile.
But they still took the money he raised for charity.
No the sketch was about British Rail who Savile happened to be doing the ad campaign for. Hence the punchline
My sister and I were born in 1959 and 1963, respectively. As teenagers we thought Saville strange and creepy!
They ALWAYS tell you.
One of the rumours I heard about when I was a young soldier. No one gave specific evidence, but everyone was certain that 'Uncle Jimmy' liked children. Too much.
People knew. Hell it wasn't much of a secret by the late eighties...
@@SiliconBong The distressing part is the BBC's complicity, and it was not just Savile. Even his driver, and others. Glitter's 'This is your life' slot, with him telling someone to be quiet about young girls, well that said a lot about the man who 'put the gang in bang'. I used to sing his songs when I was very young. The Beeb appears to have been a haven for them.
'..the BBC's complicity, and it was not just Savile. Even his driver, and others...'@@user-yl1xy5eg7b
That's the edge of an 'iceberg of allegations' that still remains hidden. Considering the amount of people working on a television set of the times.
Good aim. It leaves the all-seeing eye.
Rumours were around the public in the 90s just so you know
Really? Then how come the public don't remember the rumours?
Think about it (if you're capable); if we'd all had our suspicions, it wouldn't have been such a shock when the truth came out.
I have to love how everybody says now, “Oh, I always knew Savile was a creep and a pervert”. Come on, let’s face it. He had us all fooled as we sat laughing our heads off at Jim’ll Fix It.
When I was a kid, I thought he was weird and creepy, but I had no idea what he was up to until it became public knowledge after he died.
Bro no like I'm not even British and thought he was ugly
Yeh I agree, but even when I was watching Jim'll Fix It as a kid I thought him very odd
@@mewesquirrel6720
Ugly doesn't equate to nonce in every scenario though.
I agree with the OP. So many bs artists here claiming they knew. No you didn't. I believe some thought him odd and full of himself but unless you had inside information you didn't 'know'.
@@skylined5534 if you're ugly you're suspicious to me
John Lyndon tried to warn the public and the BBC censored him for his efforts.Johnny Rotten got the last laugh but he suffered for it.
He was my fave radio dj when I was a kid. I was approached by paedos a couple times and had a highly developed radar for that sort of thing, yet strangely never suspected Savile was creepy.
Congrats! You are unique, in the entire world. Everyone else including dogs and cats, thought the child and corpse rapist was massively creepy.
@@glamdolly30 If that's so how did he manage to be so popular? Truth is most people had no idea.
@@MBM1117727 Trust me, Jimmy Savile was never popular. The BBC gave him popular, prime time TV shows to front like 'Top of the Pops' and 'Jim'll Fix It', great formats produced to the highest standard.
Those shows were absolute gifts for a predatory pervert to enjoy power over others, and access victims. But the man himself was beloved by precisely NO ONE.
The Savile scandal is the story of a highly dangerous psychopath and malignant narcissist at the extreme end of the scale, able to exploit and dominate people to commit heinous crimes against at least hundreds possibly thousands of victims, unpunished (though not undetected) for 60 years.
I was a TV producer/celebrity booker for 20 years, from 1990-2000 and was never once asked by any TV show I worked on (chat shows, entertainment shows, reality shows etc for every broadcaster and umpteen independent production companies), to book Savile. Why not? Because it was an open secret in TV he was not only a rapist and child molester, but a necrophile.
If I, who had never worked with Savile, had heard he had a key to the morgue at the hospital/psychiatric facilities he ran to enjoy sex with corpses, you can be sure MANY people knew.
It maybe wasn't common knowledge among the general public, because Savile's victims were the most vulnerable and least able to report him, and he was protected by powerful people at the top level.
But as this TV comedy sketch proves, the public perception of Jimmy Savile was entirely negative. Had he been 'popular' as you suggest, the punchline to this sketch would not have worked.
@@glamdolly30 I don't think that's true, I know many people who grew up in the 60s and 70s who loved him. He deceived millions, especially kids.
@@glamdolly30 I'm not doubting his crimes weren't known among the entertainment industry or that there weren't a lot of people in the public who hated him. But I lot of the public loved him at the time too.
This was at the time when everybody moaned about the problems with British Rail even when their weren't any. Obviously the privatised service we have today is very much worse as anyone who has caught a train in the last 20 years will know. Slower, more overcrowded, more expensive and a far worse deal for British taxpayers. Still, at least Jimmy Saville is no longer an issue!
What are you talking about? its now over priced but the service is still better, 80's BR was shite, underfunded, unreliable, slower - nice old trains but badly maintained and dirty, stations falling apart, and under staffed. Oh and if you think Its overcrowded now, maybe thats because the Uk population has DOUBLED since 1980.
You should probably investigate the facts.
Yay for Margarets friends.
Facts don't stand in the way of TheMightyAntar. Facts like no politician in state-run British Rail ever, at any time, comprehending that money had to be set aside over the years to pay for new rolling stock, leading to 1980s railways still running on 19th-century railbeds with filthy 40 year old carriages and 30 year old engines that kept breaking down.
G’on yersel, Rikki!!!
This has nothing whatever to do with Saville's crimes. It's about his British Rail adverts,
_"Let the train take the strain"_
{:o:O:}
Went from a thumbs down to a thumbs up right at the end there. Brilliant
When my stepfather was in the military he was at a bar when he was stationed in Gibraltar and he was talking to the DJ and on the news it was about Jimmy Savile and the DJ said to my stepfather that if Savile wasn't famous and a Radio DJ he would be in prison in this was the early 70s.
He once ran by me when he did the Glasgow marathon, or so I am told. I don't remember it I was in a pram at the time.
Lucky he was running in the opposite direction then.
Let everyone remember that the BBC spent decades covering up his vile deeds
Am not seeing how they where right? Jimmy always promoted Trains even in later life this is just more clickbait.
He threw food on Savile's face and I bet in every person they'd like to throw something on Savile. I wish that this show got the actual Jimmy Savile put him in scenes where he opens the door 🚪 when he says "Hi there." someone just throws glass on his face it would make great TV. I bet the writer of this episode knew of Jimmy's true nature before he was revealed to being a child rapist and that's why he wrote this scene.
Jade Pixie
Not really Jimmy Saville was the face of British rail just listen to how badly the guy complains about the train service even the woman severing food is a mess.
Is that a J for Jimmy?
YES, you are not seeing how they *were* right.
Rikki Fulton would have been well aware of the murky reputation that Saville had in the industry. In Scotland, at least. I heard mention of him actually in the BBC canteen in Queen Margaret Drive - probably five or six years after this sketch was made, probably. He had been totally sussed by the ordinary staff in Queen Margaret drive (and therefore the entire entertainment industry, as far as Scotland goes).