What the Tech Industry Has Learned from Linus Torvalds: Jim Zemlin at TEDxConcordiaUPortland

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
  • Zemlin's career spans three of the largest technology trends to rise over the last decade: mobile computing, cloud computing and open source software. As executive director of The Linux Foundation, he uses this experience to accelerate the adoption of Linux and support the future of computing. Zemlin works with the world's largest technology companies to help define the future of computing on the server, in the cloud and on a variety of new mobile computing devices.
    Zemlin has been recognized as a top Linux and open source blogger and is widely quoted in the press on Linux and the changing economics of the technology industry. Zemlin also advises a variety of startups, and sits on the boards of the Global Economic Symposium, Open Source For America and Chinese Open Source Promotion Union.
    In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)
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  • @lerinarazafy7826
    @lerinarazafy7826 8 лет назад +436

    And Linus did it again with Git

    • @howardkong8927
      @howardkong8927 4 года назад +55

      The most amazing part that he created Git for the sole purpose of maintaining Linux.

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 3 года назад +5

      And that scuba diving app.

    • @iyxan2340
      @iyxan2340 3 года назад +13

      @@howardkong8927 The another cool part is, that he used Linux to host Git

    • @lokeshbajracharya5190
      @lokeshbajracharya5190 3 года назад +3

      Do it again *meme*

    • @segsfault
      @segsfault 2 года назад +2

      And again he didn't made it for money, he made it for his personal problem

  • @swwei
    @swwei 5 лет назад +266

    "Talk is cheap, show me the code." Torvalds said.

  • @robertperry8588
    @robertperry8588 10 лет назад +18

    This is really great to hear. My collage education is about 100% individualism in software development, 100% restrictions in how things are done, and 0% code reuse and so watching this video gave me hope that software can be fun once I graduate.

  • @RelatedGiraffe
    @RelatedGiraffe 9 лет назад +56

    "Lesson 3: Don't have a plan." That's what I have been living by my entire life! This guy has really got it, don't plan anything! :D

  • @Krishnakumar-wl7ih
    @Krishnakumar-wl7ih 8 лет назад +294

    If RMS was in the audience he would have shouted...
    "NOT LINUX... GNU + LINUX"

    • @looseSpark
      @looseSpark 8 лет назад +22

      No, because he is specifically talking about Linus/Linux in this case, not Gnu + Linux - though the same argument could be said about Gnu also.

    • @yosafatmarselinoagus6710
      @yosafatmarselinoagus6710 7 лет назад +19

      he was talking about the kernel

    • @agentgreenland
      @agentgreenland 7 лет назад +19

      looseSpark There no such thing as just Linux. Linux is a kernel that was created to fill in a gap in the GNU OS, which didn't have a kernel. Therefore, it's real name is not Linux, but GNU/Linux. If there were no GNU, there would be no Linux. Linus said himself, that if GNU had a kernel, he would never have made Linux. Linus wanted to have a free UNIX like OS, and saw the best candidate in GNU, which lacked a functional kernel. Linux' father is Linus Torvalds. GNU's (and The Free Software Foundation and the GNU Public License) father is Richard Stallman

    • @looseSpark
      @looseSpark 7 лет назад +23

      I know the history of GNU and Linux but what you say about there being no such thing as just Linux is not accurate. I realise Linux does nothing by itself but there is no obligation to use GNU and Linux together - you can use Linux and build your own OS (Google's Android being the most prominent example). Since Linux exists as an entity in its own right apart from GNU, it has its own, separate identity apart from GNU. So if one is talking about the kernel and not the whole GNU/Linux OS, then one correctly calls it Linux.

    • @wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20
      @wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20 7 лет назад +3

      +Ilannguaq Kivioq Linux was started because Torvalds wanted Unix at home but couldn't afford to buy one, and because he wanted to test and study the new computer he had bought. :) It wasn't planned that carefully in the begin as far as I know. Of course nowadays Linux is a massive project and massive amount of people have contributed to it since. Linux is the name of the kernel. Of course in a fully working operating system, you then have other components too.

  • @martrex2
    @martrex2 8 лет назад +12

    The last words are pretty inspiring, the whole speech provides a more down to earth reality about Linux, but this doesn't even begin to describe how mazing Linux truly is. The thing is, Linux is all but down to earth, we're reaching upwards.

  • @bluehornet6752
    @bluehornet6752 9 лет назад +1

    Wonderful talk--amazing. I can't imagine why this doesn't have a whole bunch of comments?!?!
    Very insightful look at just how much of a contribution that Linux has made to the world...and will continue to do so for the next generation or more.

  • @fatihkomurlu9632
    @fatihkomurlu9632 8 лет назад +14

    Information should be freely available for everyone for better progress. Linux shows that.

  • @youtuber-lh3ks
    @youtuber-lh3ks 7 лет назад +2

    I like this Jim dude. He obviously like what he does and most importantly he does not take him self seriously.

    • @monstertrucks9357
      @monstertrucks9357 4 года назад

      Yeah, I agree, people are being too critical of this guy.

  • @PaezRice
    @PaezRice 9 лет назад +224

    Yeah Apple uses free open source software (with a BSD license) to build a closed system with a closed shop where they do NOT allow FOSS apps that are licensed under the GPL (like the VLC media player). You can call this "smart" but i think i could come up with much better words to describe this behaviour ;)

    • @cdduker
      @cdduker 8 лет назад +44

      +Paez Rice
      Yeah I think it's ridiculous that he uses Apple as example of a company that embraces the Free Software movement.
      Any company that uses software that has been shared freely and makes software that you can't change or use freely with it, is by definition not a free software.
      Its also meaningless to use stock prices of four companies as an indicator of the value of free software.

    • @decketnant9733
      @decketnant9733 8 лет назад +4

      If I decide that I want to make my source code freely available then I mean that I want people to do what whatever they want with it. I don't want to restrict people by forcing them to release their software's source code if they distribute a product that utilizes my code. I want it to have so much freedom that it allows a company to refrain from posting changes they have made.

    • @decketnant9733
      @decketnant9733 8 лет назад +3

      +Samuel Santana No it isn't. Look up the BSD and MIT licenses.

    • @decketnant9733
      @decketnant9733 8 лет назад +1

      Samuel Santana To be honest, I have no idea.

    • @hermanstokbrood
      @hermanstokbrood 8 лет назад +8

      +Paez Rice Apple only uses free software to make money. If they had to share some way, they wouldn't do it for sure. Really dont understand why Zemlin is using this bad example.

  • @SefraCorrea
    @SefraCorrea 11 лет назад +7

    thank you !!

  • @apolloeosphoros4345
    @apolloeosphoros4345 2 года назад

    just happened to find this video while preparing the first public beta version of my first app. That was strangely emotional

  • @seemeen8483
    @seemeen8483 7 лет назад +40

    Windows has disabled many to understand Linus.

  • @shubhamjoshi8683
    @shubhamjoshi8683 4 года назад +1

    Jim is an extremely persuasive speaker.

  • @CurtHowland
    @CurtHowland 11 лет назад +7

    "You can enrich yourself and at the same time enrich others."
    That has always been the way when the interactions are voluntary.
    When the transaction is voluntary, each party gains. Wealth is created by consensual trade, by each person doing what they do best, by the continual process of finding better ways.
    It's called "the market".

  • @karlpages1970
    @karlpages1970 6 лет назад

    thanks for the pep talk :-)

  • @fffmmm22
    @fffmmm22 11 лет назад

    I like the idea that no idea (or code for that matter) should not be subject to question.

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 9 лет назад +2

    Nice sensible speech. Thank you!
    And keep up the good work with the Foundation, Jim.
    -dlj.

  • @TheAdminaaron
    @TheAdminaaron 11 лет назад +2

    I love this TED Talk

  • @darkhorse621
    @darkhorse621 4 года назад +2

    respect for Linux Torvalds and open source idea !

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Год назад +1

      Just to clarify: *Richard Stallman* popularized Open Source (GNU) _decades_ before Linus decided to open source the Linux Kernel with GPL 2.0.

    • @LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem
      @LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, don't forget about Richard Stallman and the GNU project! Justice for rms!

  • @maxwellpowers
    @maxwellpowers 10 лет назад +4

    I highly enjoyed this while running Linux Mint 15 :)

  • @sinekonata
    @sinekonata 11 лет назад

    Also I would have liked to hear a little props to Stallman from the speaker. If someone represents the theory of the community, the sharing, the freedom, the ideals, it's Stallman and a lot more than Linus.

  • @xia
    @xia 7 лет назад +134

    This guy sounds exactly like the executives who tries to lead a technical team with no technical background but years of experience of bullshitting. Most of what he said didn't have any actual deep understanding and study to back them. That's probably why Linus doesn't even bother to give a shit about what he says.

    • @moha6859
      @moha6859 7 лет назад +1

      rock4you
      Linus Torvalds do what he want and don't give a sh!t about ideas he don't like
      some call him dictator

    • @taylorworthington9394
      @taylorworthington9394 4 года назад +1

      A TED talk about the difference between a hacker and a hack.

    • @missionpupa
      @missionpupa 4 года назад

      Not to mention he just leeched off Linus torvalds name so he can present at TED

    • @ybhall
      @ybhall 4 года назад

      @@narwa3991 I think you've watched too many LTT videos. ;)

    • @wlgrd7052
      @wlgrd7052 4 года назад +2

      @@narwa3991 well, no. He is Finnish, hence it's properly pronounced as Lee-nus

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 10 лет назад +3

    Linux machines use a lot of software from a lot of contributors. Richard Stallman doesn't have a monopoly on that, although obviously the GNU tools were and are quite important to the adoption of Linux. But then so was the X Window system, which probably doesn't even have a "free software compatible" licence as far as RS is concerned.

  • @SefraCorrea
    @SefraCorrea 11 лет назад +66

    y does m zuckerberg deserve mention along jedi linus ?

    • @johnyepthomi892
      @johnyepthomi892 3 года назад +10

      He was using him as an example of someone who understood the idea behind open source and used the technology from open source to create Facebook.
      So, yes he is not at the level of Linus and he's only good to be used an an example of a user of open source so that everyone can understand the power of open source as they all know about Facebook, that's it. Nothing special in Facebook per se.

    • @moderngames8892
      @moderngames8892 3 года назад

      No

    • @originalgamer4962
      @originalgamer4962 3 года назад

      lol

    • @cenacr007
      @cenacr007 3 года назад +1

      why people really hate mark lol, dude did what you internet warriors are even incapable of thinking let alone implement and yet talking so lightly of him as he is just another random dude and not the guy who created the biggest Social Media platform ever.

    • @moderngames8892
      @moderngames8892 3 года назад +3

      @@cenacr007 it's datamining company first than a biased social media platforms. We are in the dark ages of internet . People should strive to build a decentralised social media platform with blockchain which could do more to the society.

  • @doctors_strange
    @doctors_strange 3 года назад +3

    "कर्मण्येवाधिकारस्ते मा फलेषु कदाचन। मा कर्मफलहेतुर्भूर्मा ते सङ्गोऽस्त्वकर्मणि॥"

  • @maksymshvernenko799
    @maksymshvernenko799 5 лет назад +42

    This is so superficial it's mind-blowing this got on TED.

  • @TheLun4tic
    @TheLun4tic 11 лет назад

    Zemlin is talking about OpenSource Software in general and uses Linux as an example for being the largest piece with the biggest influence on the industry today.

  • @AlexRubio
    @AlexRubio 10 лет назад +7

    As much as I respect and love linux, linux wouldn't be where it is without GNU. Richard Stallman. It is because of hes hard work that brought open source to where it is.
    FSF!

    • @mrhunterf2869
      @mrhunterf2869 6 лет назад +1

      LOL. I actually don't believe this. Sure maybe when it first started, but the simple tools that GNU supplies would be nothing without the kernel, Linux.

    • @AdhityaMohan
      @AdhityaMohan 5 лет назад

      Where is the gnu Hurd? Still waiting....

  • @samarthkumar
    @samarthkumar 9 лет назад +1

    Any idea on what is the study of university of California about how ideas are created that was referred? Would looove to show it to some people. ;)

  • @andjack
    @andjack 11 лет назад

    Apple DO share some code, but not all. For example, they are leaders of the Cups printer system. Which is basicly installed in every Linux distribution to handle printers.

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 10 лет назад +3

    No, Stallman founded GNU and wrote a lot of software for that project (the 'GNU's Not Unix' project). Many other people made a lot of contributions to GNU. Then Linux made a kernel, a file system, etc. etc. and brought it all together into a working system. Note that it was possible to have a 'GNU system' before this, but it either had to be severely limited (eg. Minux) or not free (GNU programs on a non free Unix, eg. SunOS).

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 10 лет назад

    Most users don't actually interact with the Unix parts of it apart from using it for 'OS functions' like provision of a file system, resource arbitration, thread and process scheduling, all of which happen automatically as far as they are concerned. In that respect it could be replaced with anything, and most users wouldn't notice. However Unix does these things well which is probably why Mac users say their systems are so stable.

  • @chunleizhang77
    @chunleizhang77 2 года назад

    lesson 1: Don't dream big;
    lesson 2: Give it away;
    lesson 3: Don't have a plan;
    lesson 4: You don't awlays have to be nice. (Nobody can be always nice!)
    Information should be freely available for everyone for better progress. Linux shows that.
    Good people working together can create big things. Thus I want to be one of the good people.

  • @coach_alpha_elite
    @coach_alpha_elite 6 лет назад

    The commentary is more entertaining then the talk itself

  • @electrontracker9914
    @electrontracker9914 10 лет назад

    Thank you Mr.Linus! Thank you Linux!

  • @dingding4898
    @dingding4898 2 года назад +2

    That Microsoft vs IBM vs Red Hat graph aged like Milk.

  • @Claymore2408
    @Claymore2408 10 лет назад +20

    Why isn't there a speech about Dennis Ritchie? He invented C helped developed UNIX, the entire UNIX structure has been re-written in C....

    • @_slier
      @_slier 10 лет назад +1

      agree...not so much love for ritchie

    • @EddyMetal60
      @EddyMetal60 10 лет назад +1

      Maybe because he didn't have time to mention every single person that has contributed? He only had 18 minutes. Maybe you should make a video about ritchie if it irks you so much.

    • @_slier
      @_slier 10 лет назад +1

      Ed Briggs maybe i would, dumbass

    • @EddyMetal60
      @EddyMetal60 10 лет назад

      So much hate, so little time. Did I call you names? Goes to show how classy you are as a person when you have to lash out at people. I guarantee you wouldn't call me a dumbass to my face. It's amazing how brave people are on the net, when they know they can get away with it without being punched in the face.

    • @Claymore2408
      @Claymore2408 10 лет назад +1

      Ed Briggs To your face..why are you a big man? What makes you think I won't say anything to your face in real life? I act and talk the way I want. You talk as if everyone in the internet are a bunch of wimps when you don't really know anything now do you mate? Maybe if you were to spend a minute and read comments carefully no one would call you names now would they? Now go back onto your xbox.

  • @samuelgreenway
    @samuelgreenway 11 лет назад +1

    Administration is a whole lot easier these days. Alot of it is graphical now., besides whether or not you have a windows network or linux network, there will need to be administrators

  • @LeeTurtle2000
    @LeeTurtle2000 11 лет назад

    we would like to translate this video in Albanian subtitles. Can we somehow download it in high res?

  • @herbyherb4149
    @herbyherb4149 11 лет назад

    Mate I haven't been trying to convince you to change your mind :) The reply was saying that the GNU in GNU/Linux is specifically referencing the O/S, not whether it should be called that. I'm pretty sure that most of the main distros build their binaries against glibc or eglibc, so most of the software stack interfaces with the GNU runtime libraries on some level, add to that all the basic operation utilities they use that are from GNU; it's not really accurate to say most don't build on GNU.

  • @rkeech1
    @rkeech1 11 лет назад

    correction: firmware binaries are now separate from the kernel.

  • @NicholasSilva1380
    @NicholasSilva1380 4 года назад +32

    this guy wears a hoodie with the same authenticity as when a hippie puts on a suit

    • @gibbogle9486
      @gibbogle9486 2 года назад

      What is this weird association of "hoodie" and "authenticity"?

  • @asdfghyter
    @asdfghyter 8 лет назад +38

    Yuck at that graph of 3 companies based on closed, partially open and open software. Please don't draw conclusions based on the correlation between three data points!

    • @TheDJLiquify
      @TheDJLiquify 7 лет назад +4

      worst graph i've seen in a while tbh.

    • @FrederickFNNoronha
      @FrederickFNNoronha 3 года назад

      Where is the dream? Corporate takeover is complete....

    • @dingding4898
      @dingding4898 2 года назад

      That graph aged like milk

  • @PhilThomas
    @PhilThomas 11 лет назад

    Actually linux is a fully functioning system, it is the Kernel (the main operating program) that happens to host by default the gnu utilities. The operating system is the kernel, not the libraries.

  • @OidoPerfecto
    @OidoPerfecto 11 лет назад +1

    Nice Talk.

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 10 лет назад +1

    In short Apple Macs, even though they use Unix as a base show all of the failings you would expect of a proprietary machine that simply uses Unix as a glorified device driver and gives them enough of a build chain that they can build their proprietary development environment (XCode or whatever it is)

  • @filwit
    @filwit 10 лет назад +1

    Excellent TED talk! Typing this on Linux :D

  • @Fauxm1135
    @Fauxm1135 11 лет назад +1

    Technically speaking, Android is essentially a Java environment on top of a heavily-modified Linux kernel, and contains very little (if any) GNU software/libraries.

  • @AndreasViklundOfficial
    @AndreasViklundOfficial 9 лет назад +1

    Thumbs up if you watched this because of Jim Zemlin rather than the reference to Linus Torvalds.
    (Great talk, by the way!)

  • @tsegat
    @tsegat 9 лет назад

    Jim Zemlin you just shattered everything I hold to be dear about making software collaboratively. Thanks!

    • @cdduker
      @cdduker 8 лет назад

      +Tsegaselassie Tadesse What did you hold dear?

    • @tsegat
      @tsegat 8 лет назад

      Chening Duker one is lesson #3 The best way to get things done is to have NO PLAN! 10:47 That is so scary, I have a hard time imagining working on a project without having a plan. However, his explanation brings context to it. The other is lesson #4 You don't have to be nice to people you collaborate with.

  • @welcometonewearth416
    @welcometonewearth416 5 лет назад

    I totally agree!

  • @TheImmortaleyeZ
    @TheImmortaleyeZ 10 лет назад +1

    Oh, true. My mistake on misreading the "free." And, yes, running Windows is a huge mistake, but like you said, it's a lot more than the price tag that makes the difference.

  • @callisoncaffrey
    @callisoncaffrey 10 месяцев назад

    I can't find any 2003 Berkeley study about "finding the best ideas". Someone help me out.

  • @alienkishorekumar
    @alienkishorekumar 11 лет назад

    True, but the free version CentOS is derived from Redhat Linux.

  • @MrYossarianuk
    @MrYossarianuk 11 лет назад +1

    Its telling that there are barely any rival kernels around... Even from major tech companies - i.e it's not an easy thing to do. Just look at the Hurd kernel.

  • @Jonyrijo
    @Jonyrijo 11 лет назад

    isn't that so only since the last version 13.04? + they get donations and from commercial support too.

  • @techraan
    @techraan 11 лет назад

    you're right. He added a bit of psychobabble to appease the iCattle.

  • @justwhyamerica
    @justwhyamerica 10 лет назад

    because the kernel is really important and also linus thinks like an engineer and cares more about getting things done rather than make sure things get done in an ethical manner. which one do think suites enterprise better

  • @gentux
    @gentux 10 лет назад

    Specifically FreeBSD not formally UNIX but is the same idea, in fact they colaborate with CUPS and Webkit just because is GPL so they HAVE TO, the rest is BSD licenced so they CAN close the code and made it privative so they DO IT. If they could close CUPS and Webkit source code they shurely would do it.

  • @MaGariShun
    @MaGariShun 10 лет назад

    Well mine is coming from the organization which actually certifies systems as being UNIX, namely The Open Group.
    UNIX certification is based on compliance to the (SUS) standard, not on the lineage of the codebase. Linux probably could certify as UNIX too, as would FreeBSD, but someone would have to pay for the certification.
    To be fair, your book is probably just out of date, as OSX was only certified from OSX 10.5 "Leopard" on up

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an 10 лет назад

    EXCELLENT

  • @MikeTrieu
    @MikeTrieu 9 лет назад +3

    "It's [Linux] in your phone." Erm, not if you've got an iPhone. That'd be based off BSD. Not that there hasn't been any cross-pollination between the two OSes since their inception, but BSD's been around the block a lot longer.

    • @Toastmaster_5000
      @Toastmaster_5000 9 лет назад

      he didn't say ALL phones. But almost every other phone that isn't based on iOS or Windows is linux based. Keep in mind in a global perspective, iphones are relatively unpopular.

    • @MikeTrieu
      @MikeTrieu 9 лет назад

      ***** Good call on the Mach kernel info, but BSD looks to have been initiated in 1977 while the Linux kernel started in 1991.

    • @decketnant9733
      @decketnant9733 8 лет назад

      +TheAnimeEmperor BSD wasn't a clone. It *was* UNIX.

  • @looseSpark
    @looseSpark 8 лет назад +1

    Another flaw in this argument is that - going by observable results - free software works best in large, complex software but not small(er) simple(r) software - which category most software falls into. I'm for free software but I'm realistic. Developer or user - use it when it's appropriate and/or when you want to. That's true freedom.

    • @looseSpark
      @looseSpark 8 лет назад

      The arguments he uses can be applied to closed software / traditional corporations too while remaining in those models.

  • @FullStackOnArchLinux
    @FullStackOnArchLinux 3 года назад

    Watching this on Linux Mint

  • @saeedgnu
    @saeedgnu Год назад +1

    Meanwhile my employer in Singapore would not let me use Linux for development because everyone is using Mac, even though all our work was based on open source tech like Go, grpc, docker, kubernetes etc.

  • @MultiAnonymous07
    @MultiAnonymous07 11 лет назад +1

    only thing, i forever want to read eat and listen 'LINUX' :)

  • @mohamedalborno6104
    @mohamedalborno6104 3 года назад

    Can someone summarize those lessons?

  • @mastercontrol5000
    @mastercontrol5000 11 лет назад +2

    If you really must take to calling it by name with GNU's contribution included, just remember that in most distros, GNU's contribution is something like 7%. You should really call it Linux+GNU. Or, because Linux doesn't depend on GNU software, because (as you mentioned) it's not an operating system, but a kernel, just take to calling an entire sector of the market by a general name(as you should): Linux.

  • @kevinchastain727
    @kevinchastain727 3 года назад

    The first rule of creation.
    Don't create something that you can not turn off or destroy, lest it be used against you.

  • @HisVirusness
    @HisVirusness 3 года назад

    6:15 What about the Donatellos?

  • @nanderv
    @nanderv 10 лет назад

    There are some 'binary blobs' in the firmware uploading part. The firmware of some hardware is closed source.
    This ain't even the drivers, these are the firmware, the software that runs INSIDE the hardware.
    Old hardware had this preinstalled (burned into the chip), newer hardware uploads it into the chip upon installation. This creates more open hardware, since you could change the firmware. However, the firmware itself isn't open source.

    • @gibbogle9486
      @gibbogle9486 2 года назад

      Doesn't all software run inside hardware? Perhaps you mean it is stored inside the hardware.

  • @itnas19
    @itnas19 8 лет назад

    La traducción que se hace ajl castellano de "free software" es inexacta, se refiere a software libre, no software gratuito, como Richard Stallman advierte insistentemente.
    Muchas gracias por la traducción.
    Saludos,
    Santiago

  • @EverybodysSenator4US
    @EverybodysSenator4US 11 лет назад

    I Will Totally Move Everything To L.A.M.P. Software Before The Equinox And So Should You. LINUX APACHE MySQL Php : ALL OPENSOURCE FREEWARE
    Thanks Ted....you may not be my boss but you were the final influence in my decision

  • @Collatious
    @Collatious 11 лет назад

    He makes a good point. Apple is a very successful company, maybe in part because of reasons mentioned in the video :)

  • @PopescuSorin
    @PopescuSorin 11 лет назад +2

    LINUX IS THE FUTURE

  • @VickyBro
    @VickyBro 9 лет назад +1

    One of the most influential ted talks ever.

  • @mufasachainbreaker7757
    @mufasachainbreaker7757 5 лет назад +1

    I heard people ask if he was talking about communism when he said to give it away. He is talking about the opposite. Communism is when someone says to take things for free against the owners will. He is saying he is the owner voluntary giving something away for free rather than taking something for free. That is not called communism. It is called charity.

  • @loweschmidt3810
    @loweschmidt3810 10 лет назад

    Actually, Mac OS X is certified UNIX by the Open Group.

  • @Snoopod
    @Snoopod 10 лет назад

    BSD is a Unix OS

  • @_nightowl263
    @_nightowl263 3 года назад +1

    Great speaker. Reminds me of Steve Jobs.

  • @MaGariShun
    @MaGariShun 10 лет назад

    Wrong. OSX is actually a registered certified UNIX system. It may not stem from the same old UNIX codebase, but it's a UNIX nonetheless.

  • @Ashallmusica
    @Ashallmusica 2 года назад

    You don't need a Boss , you need love to do what you wanna do

  • @techraan
    @techraan 11 лет назад

    I will admit, I had no idea that Linux had replaced Unix in all of the capacities that the speaker mentioned. I guess it was only a matter of time. :-D

  • @toshobg
    @toshobg 11 лет назад +1

    LInux, Linux everywhere :)

  • @HedwinKoning
    @HedwinKoning 11 лет назад

    yes

  • @mywereldza
    @mywereldza 11 лет назад +1

    Can you point me to a fully functioning GNU only system I can try out?
    I thought so... You see, the paint and steering is nothing without the engine to drive it all.

  • @PaezRice
    @PaezRice 9 лет назад +7

    if anyone creates the next google or the next facebook -> you can be sure that one of the big players will just buy this company when it's still affordable :)

    • @brofrosty3735
      @brofrosty3735 8 лет назад

      +Paez Rice Perhaps. Would it cause any negative repercussions? I don't think it matters too much.

    • @PaezRice
      @PaezRice 8 лет назад

      Lauri Anttila that's not what i meant. i just think there won't be the next google or facebook, but just the next arm of existing google and facebook. (btw this can absolutely have negative repercussions, because the IT industry is then led by less and less behemoths dictating the direction)

  • @laithal-zoubi1547
    @laithal-zoubi1547 4 года назад +23

    The moment when you know that this guy uses a 'mac' to prepare his presentations..

  • @pjnlsn
    @pjnlsn 9 лет назад +17

    I like most of the topics on TED, but I wish they would get into more technical stuff rather than getting people whose entire job consists of public speaking, rather than something useful.

  • @mastercontrol5000
    @mastercontrol5000 11 лет назад

    While that may be true (wikipedia: GNU), I believe you'll find that operating system is actually based on GNU's Herd kernel. The GNU in 'GNU/Linux' refers to the organization GNU, which I still hold has absolutely no claim to that honor.

  • @andjack
    @andjack 11 лет назад

    Argue the solution, not the person. The proposed solution is free target.
    Which needs to be known by all participating in the group. And it has to be reminded and trained...

  • @encukou
    @encukou 11 лет назад

    Jim Zemlin is talking about Android, about the software in your TV, and about the systems banks use. All of these run Linux (the kernel), only the last is, usually, GNU/Linux (the POSIX-ish OS). He talks about Linus Torvalds, who created Linux, not the GNU tools. He is the director of the Linux Foundation, not the FSF. TL;DR, he *is* actually talking about Linux, not GNU/Linux.

  • @hipsterelephant2660
    @hipsterelephant2660 3 года назад

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

  • @monstertrucks9357
    @monstertrucks9357 4 года назад

    There's a lot of criticism of this guy, but actually I think Mr. Torvalds is fortunate to have a guy like this managing the types of things that are the opposite of what his own personality would want to manage. Yes, this guy is like an anti-Torvalds but that's the whole point. That's his job to be that.

  • @Luix
    @Luix 10 лет назад +1

    the open source vs close source doesn't impact the quality of the product. The quality is quality.

    • @kjell159
      @kjell159 10 лет назад +2

      That is if you are solely the end-user.
      Proprietary software isn't modifiable, isn't your own, literally: you cannot view the source-code,...
      Also (what Jim was actually trying to explain): open-source is community driven and that can sometimes be a good thing.

  • @WillBlacksilver
    @WillBlacksilver 3 года назад

    I wonder if he put together that keynote on a Mac or Windows?

    • @adamrezabek9469
      @adamrezabek9469 3 года назад

      i would think that he used linux. Not sure tho

  • @phylwx
    @phylwx 11 лет назад

    I approve of your strict ways.

  • @MrStarTraveler
    @MrStarTraveler 6 лет назад +3

    In a moment he sounds like Morpheus describing the matrix XD

  • @network_king
    @network_king 6 лет назад

    I don't understand they say when Linux is modified it has to be re-distributed, but I know many cases this is not the case.
    Apple based on free software, but modified then they charge you for it.
    Google's internal OS they use it's got custom apps, file systems, etc.
    Cisco IOS XE is Linux based, but it is only available if you have a support contract and their hardware.
    Pretty sure VMware's ESXI is linux based, but again customized and need to buy it in some cases.
    Also seen things Like Informacast server which is used for VOIP/PA systems seems sort of Linux based, but totally proprietary protocols, licences, etc you have to buy, etc.
    This is one of many areas with Linux where things just don't make much sense. Others are bizarre program names, switch options that are really odd.

    • @orcaflotta7867
      @orcaflotta7867 3 года назад

      "Apple based on free software"
      And you don't have to pay for your copy of MacOS.
      "Google's internal OS they use it's got custom apps, file systems, etc."
      And? Ever had to pay for any Google service? I bet when you open any applications you'll find the FOSS parts of their code free and available for you to tinker with.
      "Cisco IOS XE is Linux based, but it is only available if you have a support contract and their hardware."
      They sell support, just like RHEL, Canonical and Oracle. And they sell hardware, which isn't subject to any GPL licence thing.
      So technically and de jure all these companies are doing nothing wrong.