The Role of the Bass | Drummer's Perspective 👀
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It's what us bassists most of the time don't want to hear, but it's true. A good bassist also needs to know, when to lay a good foundation. If you can do that then you're free to expand on that. And yes there are exceptions, like anywhere else too
This! Unless a song is bass guitar focused (many out there and they’re great) then it’s the foundation, the engine of the song with the drummer. If they’re going perfectly then a song with sound great, if they’re not then no matter the singer or guitarist, it’ll be bad.
Exactly but those who are considered to be the best bass players are actually playing guitar on bass. In addition, they are actually guitar players playing Bass
@@mikerobinson9030 Ehh, I don't know whether I can agree on this. I play both bass and guitar because playing the other instrument helps me play better on both. So I think it's only natural to transfer techniques from one to another.
not "also", he needs primarily to do foundation
@@mirak63 I would disagree. Many genres out there don't use the bass for the foundation anymore, and it works pretty well. Especially in 3 piece bands.
The people that I’m rehearsing with as of 2023 have encouraged the bass player taking a solo. One of the many duties I have in this outfit is playing the keyboards. I use the analog synthesizer I carry with me to practices as a bass synthesizer when whoever is playing bass takes a solo on a certain song. That way, somebody is still trying to maintain the low end.
Absolutely necessary. The problem with bass solos is almost never the solos themselves, it's the bass part dropping out completely and leaving the song feeling empty.
Edit: syntax
@@andrelunaisatunaeasy fix, bring another bass and bring another friend! Or if you’re lonely there’s pedals for that.
As a bass player, the guitar players always used to tell me, 'Stay on the E string, follow the kick, don't go above the fifth fret, and never ever ask for a solo!' 😅
Stay on the E string and dont go above the fifth fret are terrible advice together!! Unless you are only playing the Peter Gunn theme. . .
@@dragostego The guitar players were just jealous and didn't want me stealing their limelight. 😎
I had a guitar player tell me something similar; "just play an open E so I have a solid groove to shred too". I laughed so hard, then started a slap/pop groove with my brother in law on the kit. The guitar player didn't know what to play, he blew chunks and I was never invited back.
@@charlescowan6121 Guitar players are always so jelly.
@roguecheddar6252 They can have some pretty big egos for sure. Some think that sharing the stage means less for them. In reality, sharing the stage means more for everyone, giving everyone their ownership of the music. The people listening have a better experience and they want more.
Bass is the outline of a picture
0:32 perfect phone unlock sound
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This is one reason I enjoy MonoNeon. Plays the low end how, when and where it’s needed, and how, when and where you didn’t know it was needed.
I've always viewed the bass as the bridge between the guitar and the percussion.
As a bassist and drummer, this is super cool to see
I LOVE this video. We all need to understand what each other's needs are in the band. If my rhythm section counterpart needs this prioritized, you need to know that. You need to know what the guitarist needs, what the vocalist needs, etc. Better understanding of what makes each band member needs to thrive makes your music thrive.
during rehersals, you dont really hear the bass guy, but when he falls out we all notice IMMEDIATELY because everything just sounds weird. bass kinda makes everything sound fuller if that makes sense
Wow!! This is ground breaking stuff!!! The bass plays lower end "bassy" stuff
Dude said a bass players job is to hold low
end and play the roots like he had some epiphany.
Some bass players still need to hear it…
The style is amazing
This clip was all about Feelings
Thats why I play Primus and Les Claypool
Flea would like a word with you...
took me a while to figure out this was not a skit
Kinda over thinking this a bit, huh? You're role is to make music.
Amen
Brothers
Rhythm function is the easy part imo. Bass is the most intimidating _melodic_ instrument to play.
Why?
Play a wrong root note, just one. It is one of THE most discordant things to hear when a bass player gets it wrong, because whither the bass goes, there goes the ensemble off the chordal cliff with it no matter how right they remain.
Been there, cringed that, oopsie😂
Bass Player's Job-Cliff Burton Bass Solo.
I look at it like how i think a guitarist should look at solos, doing crazy shreddy solos 24/7 or over complicating sections is great, but over doing it is more like jerking off with a neck. Real skill is knowing when to go crazy and use techniques tastefully
Drummers perspective on a bassist: Just play my kick parts…I’ll do all the fills 😂
Syncopated restitutions and syncopate the one, stop all the fills at the end of four except in the bar four of the forth bar before the bridge, you just got produced 😎
..highlighting what you are uniquely designed to do better than anyone else...
Foundation & BeyonD🎶💯
Drummer dude proly looks like he's dressed like a chef for a reason. Follows recipes, sometimes passes of swill as fine dining. I'm more of a home cooking kind of guy. Make due with what you got, the lead player brings the main course, bass and drums bring the perfectly prepared side dishes and a good singer brings both salad and desert, but a good enough for your band singer brings either.
Maybe we can share this with Lars Ulrich and James Hatfield
I wanna hear the bass more in metallica
Another drummer who does not understand bass.
The bass supports the "sound floor" and everything else stacks on top of that. 😉
That said, my basist would chase would-be guitarists off stage (we ran the open mic) if they couldn't keep up by jamming away at the bass line while ripping lead riffs, simultaneously. 😊
I always looked at it as drummers and bassists lay down the groove, the singer and the guitar player play the melodies. But you can break those rules, look at cliff Burton, he was damn near guitar #3 instead of bass player and it ripped
he said you mostly need to play the root note but then he specified and said the very bottom note of the chord progressions, which is not always the root note
It's it just me or I thought they were about to play the song Useless from Depech mode ?
More guitarists need to hear this too, it used to singers that were divas then came the shredder who wants 5 mins of solo every song.
Lead Guitarist should be like little accents or jabs in a song - rhythm guitar acts like an equalizer (either with a low drone, or a chcka-twang)
This is how it always was, since the beginning then along comes James Jamerson. Hello everybody here's how to spice up your traditional song and ways of thinking, it's called a hook! 👇
There’s a lot of feeling going on here 😅
Lars and James have left the chat
What about when you're in a band of 2 bassists?
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That Chinese laundry shirt, tho...
Geddy lee
Play for what song calls for not a athletic endeavor
Playing root notes all the time can be dull though
It's physics! If the fundamental is played correctly, all the harmonics of the chords played by other instruments will sound better.
I feel like these guys are stating the obvious while thinking they’re making some massive new realization.
Sort of an unspoken rule here
This is why you need be able to play all the intruments
Foundation yes, but only root notes means it's a shitty arrangement. If the composer is any good the baseline will be the second most melodic part after the lead melody.
Justin Chancellor disliked this video
Peter Hook disagrees
I thought it was the drummer that is the strong-arm..
I wanna hear what the electric guitar player is uniquely suited to do
Be obnoxious and have a huge ego about it.
Bass Players Go Low.
How Low?
Lower Than Whale Shiza On The Bottom Of The Mariana Trench!
id never tell the bassist “you play root notes”. there’s such a blatant lack of knowledge behind a statement like that man. and even if you elaborate on it, it’s still inherently a box you’ve put the bassist in🤦🏻♂️
But I think it's important for the bassist to understand that unless they're actually playing higher than the other instruments, whatever they play is going to have a profound effect on the harmony. If the guitarist is playing an Am chord and the bassist plays an F, it's no longer an Am chord, it's Fmaj7. And if that's done with intentionality, great! But the bassist needs to understand they have that power before they leave the beaten path.
@@digitaljanus that takes listening, not root notes.
edit: and i get where you’re coming from but still, it’s the dude’s statement itself.
This fucking guy would have an Antigua bass
Serve the song
Drums and bass are the foundation. Plain and simple. You have a weak foundation, that song is going to fall apart before the chorus.
Its true. And most of the bassist who play solos and melodies in the fore front have another bass player with them to lay down the bottom
Propagate forward motion
It s not like this! Stop! Drop mic! 🙌🤘🤘🤘
Yeah and drummers could play kick hat snare hat but that’s boring
What the fuck is he doing at the beginning??? 😅😅😅
Groovin' dude! 🕺
@@devinebass thats some grooving
Wish this kind of common sense was recognized by people who don’t believe in gender roles 👀
Im not at all surprised that someone with a take like yours thinks what these guys are saying is "common sense".
Like, everytime its the same mindset.
"Always by the book. Everything has it's place."
Why do bass players jam so unnecessarily hard?
Because it's necessary.
The Role of the Bass is.. play the low notes..?
I mean, yeah..
except the annoying piano player who wants to play the bass line with you with his left hand!
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Primus
Thats it
Thats all