I do mostly rebuilds and have a strong preference for fiberglass ultralight rods. It is inexpensive for me. Most people who build their own can build high quality rods for less cost than high quality off the shelf rods but your blanks and guides can easily be way more expensive than mid priced rods. No mater what you are building, your time investment is substantial and time is money! There are some big costs in time too if you were to add that in.
You are right, I have done that several times as well. I did it once and accidentally got too big of a drop and it rolled around the rod! It can be messy if you are as ham handed as me 😁
Thanx for sharing! I am attempting my first rod rebuild on an old cyber stick baitcaster that my father handed down to me. That rod has caught the biggest large mouth and small mouth bass I've ever seen.
i think that was an awesome tip thank you your tips have help me learn how to wrap i am going to start doing my own wrapping going to buy your gig for wrapping rod
Great tip. Liked the way you cut at the end before pulling with the loop. I am a beginner rod builder. This video will definitely make my next build better. Thanks
I have a playlist of my rod building videos here: Fishing Rod Building - DIY Rod Building Jigs - Rod Customizing: ruclips.net/p/PLX7a8aD_4rEmd_Fl_J4RfNRsUZ3fe6fby Hope it helps and good luck!
Tip: Bring along some small plastic tie wraps If your out fishing. If one of your rod guides becomes loose and you don't have a spare rod and reel combo, use two tie wraps on the guide foot to get you through the rest of the day. Just keep the tie wrap nub at the under part of the rod.
@robertlosasso4222 the right kind of thread is all you need. Even if the thread only had a break strength of 1lb (which would be really low) once you put enough turns to cover up your guide foot you have a section that is stronger than the rod itself. Anything else just adds weight and bulk that does more harm than good. Good luck to you on your repair!
I've got a lot of other videos you might find helpful. Here are a few: ruclips.net/video/MuuCzPJ0ijU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html ruclips.net/video/XIaNQvAQr6g/видео.html I'm always happy to try and help if you have any questions.
Great tip. For micro guides, I use rubber legs used for fly tying. They are very thin and I just wrap them several times, moderately tight and then roll them up onto the guide foot. Super easy and holds them great. I can do all my guides prior to wrapping and check alignment.
Great tip 👍 I did a video about using rubber bands as clamps for guides while building. I have a way I had done it but I found another way on another RUclips channel called Palo Fishing and mentioned it in my video. It sounds like a similar process to what you are describing here. Here is that video: ruclips.net/video/MuuCzPJ0ijU/видео.html
Nice vid. Your wraps look sweet and compact even without an excessive burnishing, and a great idea that I have used with larger guides. I do however, use a narrow strip of the Dollar General, etc., cheap/thin packaging tape laid across the tip of the guide foot, but only after the guide has been filed and tapered to an exact fit so that there are no ridges to hang thread on (and sometimes sanded smooth with 600 grit after filing when size A thread is used. Not as necessary with C, D, or E). The 1/8" - 1/4" tape strip is just a buffer to help prevent cutting of the wraps after they are completed and epoxied, when the rod flexes with casting and landing fish - much like an underwrap helps prevent gouging of the rod blank during flexing on boat/trolling/tuna rods. Applying the tape is easy because after checking for perfect fit, you just lay the tape across the guide foot, then center guide as needed onto the blank, then press down each side of tape until they meet at the bottom of the rod. Carefully run a razor blade, or X-Acto knife, down the joining of the tape joint to trim off the excess. I do this on all my medium-light to ultra-light builds and haven't had a complaint since I started building in 1972 (about an estimated 125 - 150 or so in medium-light to ultralight). Snyper Customs.
Thanks for the tip, I will remember that one! I have a lot of rod building videos on my channel, please feel free to take a look at them and offer advise in the comments that myself and others may find useful! You may want to check out the hand wrapper I designed and started building and selling on eBay. It is very nice to use and I have had a lot of nice feedback on the ones I have sold. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/C9j8CjLtVn0/видео.html Tight lines!
With this process it puts the guide directly on the blank without a protective coating between the guide foot and blank. That can cause rubbing, (and eventually a squeaking noise ) as the rod flexes underneath the guide. Normally no big deal, but it can cause it to scratch blank, and even weaken it over time. Good news is it's really easy to prevent by backing the guide foot, or blank with anything soft and flexible. You could also sit there and slowly grind guide to the point it matches a perfect curvature of the blanks roundness... but that's a nightmare (I had to do it with ReC guides every time ughhh). I agree that gluing guides suuuucks lol. I gave giant hands (I cant build any more but when I did) it made it a nightmare to do anything with smaller guides. I never liked hot glue. (Its Florida and hot glue's natural state here is goop lol) I used ferel-tite ... its s higher temp version of a glue that is used for arrow making. Now with that said, I haven't build since 2011 (fell I'll from a virus that took away the use of left arm/leg.)... so newer material might be available that us better than that. Great video, and good luck. Keep brainstorming ideas. Innovation in fishing rod building is nowhere near where it should be, and the outside-the-box thinkers like yourself are pivotal in its growth.
Great Tip! The only thing I would do extra is add a locking wrap. This just adds extra protection for when single-foot guides hit something in transit.
I use locking wraps with micro guides, but I don't use them with larger guides that have a more pronounced arrowhead shaped guide foot tip. Just a personal preference, but locking wraps don't really add much weight at all so it really doesn't hurt to use them on everything.
The least I could do is come check out your channel! Why have I not seen this channel before?!?! This is exactly what I'm looking to get into eventually... I break rods like crazy... I would love to start breaking my own, hahaha.
Haha! I would suggest moving to fiberglass rods. I used to break graphite rods all the time. Kayaking on small creeks and rivers is tough on rods sometimes. Most of our rods are fiberglass now. They have their plusses and minuses but I really like them for the type of fishing we do.
@@TheFishingHobby I do a ton of heavy cover, but I never break them in the heavy stuff, I break them on grass, tripping over them, had a blue gill break one once... it is stupid stuff... I'm sure the other stuff made them weak, but it is always the oddest break. I will try the fiberglass... maybe that will do it.
Any scratch that cuts the weave of the graphite (under the surface of the very thin finish on the blank) will be where a blank will break. It doesn't take much at all. Fiberglass is much tougher and can take much more abuse. Fiberglass is more flexible/impact resistant and graphite more stiff/brittle. Fiberglass rods tend to be more whippy (great for casting distance) but less sensitive. I use smaller hooks that penetrate more easily and mostly braided line to help offset the extra flex of fiberglass rods. There are trade offs, but people were catching big fish (and still are) on fiberglass rods way before graphite ever hit the market. Fiberglass rods are also cheaper...a plus for me!
@@TheFishingHobby Good explanation. Do you buy the blanks or do you make them yourself? I was watching videos of someone that had a blank on some spinning device and that is when I determined it may be over my head...
@@PondsSoloFishing I have bought blanks and also rebuilt vintage blanks. Some stores still carry fiberglass rods and Shakespeare Ugly Stiks still use fiberglass tip sections. Here is a playlist of my rod building videos if you want to look into it more. ruclips.net/p/PLX7a8aD_4rEmd_Fl_J4RfNRsUZ3fe6fby I build my rods turning by hand on the rod wrapping jigs I make and sell on eBay. A power wrapper isn't necessary. Here is some good info on Ugly Stiks you may want to read about: buytroutlures.com/index.php/why-you-should-buy-an-ugly-stik/ Hope some of that info is useful!
I was about to stop using flourocarbon coz it fails with any knot i tie, this one never broke this is my go to knot now, it works with mono also excellent shock resistance
Thanks for sharing,. One thing i can share with you, you want to end your guide wrap well before the line starts to "climb up" the blank, so maybe like 4-5 fewer wraps. The flex coat will always "fall" down hill and you end up with parts of thread showing. Also it just looks cleaner. Happy rodbuilding.
I agree 100%. I stopped going so far up a while back because I would always have to go back and add some epoxy after they dried. Thanks for pointing that out so others may read this comment and get that advise as well! Tight lines 👍
I don't understand your "fall down" statement. My wraps never move after a clear coat of color preserver, and my epoxy stays where I put it because I turn my completed rods on my homemade dryer for 6 - 8 hrs dependent on weather conditions (Humidity/Temperature/Etc.). Please explain what "FALLS DOWN", and how it does. Thanx. Snyper Customs.
I think what he meant was that the epoxy (especially the thinner ones) may want to sag a little near the end of the wrap and leave a low spot of finish which may require a second coat to even it out. I have experienced a similar thing myself on occasion. Not a big deal and usually not an issue with "one coat" finishes in my personal experience.
Glue is another method. I usually tape mine on while wrapping. This is just a different method I thought people would be interested in. It actually works really well on smaller guides.
I never though of this, I 've been trying to come with some way to put on the guide without having to use tape or glue.one thing that will make the guides hold in place and come off under a load pulling from the tip if the glue cracks? Start your wrap the some way you are doing , go all the way up the guide foot to the end where you would stop and pull the tag under the wrap,, now back off one turn, take the line counter clock wise around the guide at the base were the leg meets the foot three turns , now as you come around that 3rd, turn take the line 2more turns around the other side of the guide and put the line through your pull thread. There is a name for this step I can't think what it is called, I use it on all my one footed guides ,to me it makes the guide like it finished now you could put a
I'm not familiar with that process. If you think of the name please let me know because I'd like to see it or if you can find a video post a link if you don't mind. Videos help me out a lot because I learn best by watching (like most people I'm sure). Thanks!
Hi sorry I haven't got back to you before now, had to find the info. You wanted. Spent half the day looking at most of the booksI have on Rod building, couldn't find what I was trying to tell you so I went to one place I new I could get help , I think once you look you will get it. I have been a member on this blog going back to 2005 or 2006 , I some how got away from it should have thought of it before I started looking.OK enough said : Go to. Rod building.org tap on Library. Look for: The Forhan locking wrap it will give you all you need to do the wrap. Now can you tell me what state you live in? And your email address. My. Email is. papacurry@gmail.com I live in " Irmo South Carolina., you can email me if you like hope this will be of use to you . Richard Curry
If anyone needs a epoxy mixer go to hobby lobby they only 25.00 I got one from a buddy yesterday he bought 2 one for me don't pay high price for these companies who makes thousands of them I made my own board and all working on my 6 spool thread holder now might even make 8 holder sewing machine motor with pedal only cost 25 to 35 dollars then either but the holder online Amazon or pick you up a few end caps for pvc as I did I did but one online as well but it didn't make it here for few weeks take the cap drill 3 or 4 holds in it run tap in Pick up sum plastic bolts they working great on my set up soon I'll have pictures of my set up I believe I've got less than 250.00 in it and I bought 4 aluminum bars to slide my up rites in the track works great
You will have to replace the guide. Here is how to remove the old one: ruclips.net/video/WjgOdh4lYeY/видео.html And here is how to install a new one: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
I notice the high tech cardboard box you use (same as I do 👍) and also you wind turning top of the blank away from you. What are you using to hold the thread straight down rather than out front where the thread has to come from underneath instead of straight up which I think is much better
Here is how I set up the cardboard box jig: ruclips.net/video/wEC8ktjlYTk/видео.html I actually build and sell some nice wrapping jigs if you are ever in the market for one. Here is a link to those: ruclips.net/video/C9j8CjLtVn0/видео.html The box jig is a great way to get started but the jigs I sell make doing wraps a lot easier. I just like seeing people involved with rod building either way 👍
It is the same size thread in white instead of green. I normally use the same thread that I'm wrapping with to make my pull through loops, but I used a different color for this video.
I decided to go a step further and reveal yet another method. Took me quite a while to figure this out. take a 1/4" wood bead cut a rubber band in half and feed one end thru the bead with a whipping loop or threading tool. g Go around the rod with the tag end of rubber band and pull it thru the bead. It is now cinched to the rod and you are free to move it up or down the rod blank enabling you to slide the guide under the loop. really hope you guys see the economy of my method. Tight lines. PS, Hobby Lobby has wood beads, probably Wally's too.
Yes you can. Clear nail polish is nitrocellulose lacquer which is what was used on rods a long time ago before epoxy. Some clear nail polishes are much thicker than what was used so on rods so you may need to either use some nail polish thinner with it or heat it so it isn't as thick when applying. You can search on Google and find a lot of tips for thinning nail polish.
Nice video !! I have a question. Would you recommend creating a ''base layer'' of thread wrapping for the guide to sit on, in order to avoid the direct contact of the metal guide and the blank? (and basically follow the whole process on top of that ''base layer'' )
Sorry, just now seeing this! Underwraps are used a lot on large saltwater rods but not really used for most freshwater rods. You do want to make sure there are no metal burs on the bottom of the guide to scratch the finish.
Thanks for commenting! It is Coats and Clark trilobal polyester thread machine embroidery thread. When you say finish it are you talking about epoxy? This video was mostly done just show a different way of starting a wrap without taping or glueing the guide in place. Here is another video I did that is a little more in depth on doing guide wraps, I hope it helps you out: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
@ The Fishing Hobby, Very interesting/nice video sir & thanks for sharing. Although not 100% sure on the step with white thread??. Also do you think or would you use same technic for say anything from a small icefishing rod to a bigger say trolling rod? Thanks in advance.
What is the name of tool or was it just a small bottle you used to rub across thread? That seemed to be to even/tighten thread. Again thanks in advance. Tight lines.
The white thread is just a loop of thread that you wrap over. The loop end will be in the side where your tag end will be from the thread you are wrapping with. Cut the main thread and run it through the loop and pull the loop out from the side that you wrapped over. The loop will pull the tag end of your main color under those wraps locking it in place. I'd use this technique mostly for smaller guides because larger guides are heavier and harder to keep in place with this method. This is a better method for larger guides: ruclips.net/video/MuuCzPJ0ijU/видео.html
@@TheFishingHobby,Ok thanks sir. As thought it was to pull tag in under to secure but wanted to make sure. Ok thanks again for that link,As if I was too try to do one it most likely would be a lil icefishing rod. But who knows if liked & turned out good just might try a summer rod or maybe even a trolling rod. Although not sure will even try as not sure worth the cost of everything not to mention cost of blanks,eyelets,etc on top of rod lathe/holder,epoxy,thread,etc. Especially without being able to see/know cost of everything as well as to see/watch how it's done first.
@@TheFishingHobby oh ok thanks sir. As it looked like a little white bottle of some sort to me in video. Just asked as wasn't sure if right or was some kind of tool sold for that & happen to just look like an ordinary bottle. Thanks again & tight lines.
I'd probably just use tape in that case. I still use tape most of the time to start my wraps. This technique in the video works best with smaller guides. It works really well with micro guides too.
Most people use rod wrapping thread from a rod building supplier. I use polyester machine embroidery thread. Here is a video I did about it: ruclips.net/video/EuAdjqtSSJQ/видео.html
I'd agree with that. If you're building a rod take your time. This is just a quick way to wrap a guide I thought would be useful to someone replacing a guide.
@@TheFishingHobby I have to do the same repair to my fav rod and your video helped me clarify a correct and accurate technique to repair my rod. Which will save me some of my hard earned money. Thank you, for making the video.
Sorry, I have another video here that goes into more detail about that part. ruclips.net/video/TVmgzIjosVM/видео.htmlsi=1kJcTbiyooVQjHIZ The part of the video that shows the pull through loop process starts around 3:10 into the video, hope it helps!
This video followed another one I did that explained wrapping over the pull through loop in detail. This video was more about starting a guide with no tape, glue or clamps. The video I did that explained the whole wrapping process is this one: ruclips.net/video/MV135FdESiY/видео.html And at the 6:35 mark of that video shows how to insert and wrap over a pull through loop. Hope that helps!
The Fishing Hobby Fair do’s, but viewing it, it comes over as a tad clumsy, sorta like reinventing the wheel, but yeh, I get where you’re coming from, but 3:12, it’s just begging for a sliver of tape ;)
It is actually pretty easy to do when you aren't trying to watch through the legs of a tripod while checking the camera view periodically. I have a better way to record videos now but that is how I was doing it at the time I was recording the video. Most of my rod building videos look awkward because of that. In a newer video I did on doing guidewraps and finish manual turning/drying I was using a newer video recording setup that made doing the video while recording much easier and the results looked less awkward. Recording while building makes the process trickier than it needs to be, no doubt about it!
Thank you sir! If anyone reading these comments isn't familiar with what we are talking about, taping the guide onto the blank is definitely an easier method and highly recommend for beginners because the method shown in this video is more tricky. Here is a video I did to show how you can do a basic wrap and finish by hand without a special drying motor if you are learning to wrap guides: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
That particular guide was just a junk one for demonstration purposes. That said, I only use single foot guides and have never had a frame break. I build ultralight freshwater rods and single foot guides are perfectly fine for that use.
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Demonstrate how to do that with a snake guide.
Done!
Hope this helps you out!
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Outstanding! I'll give that a try on my nephew's fly rod I have to build pretty soon.
@@lgclark44 good luck with the build!
This helped me so much. Thank you sir
For us DIYers that like it simple and inexpensive. Good job.
This is a great hobby, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's inexpensive!
I do mostly rebuilds and have a strong preference for fiberglass ultralight rods. It is inexpensive for me. Most people who build their own can build high quality rods for less cost than high quality off the shelf rods but your blanks and guides can easily be way more expensive than mid priced rods.
No mater what you are building, your time investment is substantial and time is money! There are some big costs in time too if you were to add that in.
I use this method all the time since I first saw your video.
It works pretty well in my opinion!
Good job.i wrap all my guides but your method is much beter .this video was very helpful .thank you and greetings from Republic of Kosovo
Great tip! It solves that problem of staring the wrap on the guide.
Excellent method, love the little bit of twiddling to get that point to sit nicely into the whipping, great job.
This is first time I am watching such great technique....
Thanks for watching!
Amazing instructions and videos
Thank you!
I've always taped my guides on to hold them for wrapping, but seems to me you achieve the same results w/ this method w/ less aggravation. I like it.
You might give this a shot too sometime 👍
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Tiny dot of super glue works well but that looked so much cleaner and no messy glue to worry about 👍👍👍
You are right, I have done that several times as well. I did it once and accidentally got too big of a drop and it rolled around the rod! It can be messy if you are as ham handed as me 😁
good diy ! great calm voice and encouraging.....got a bucketful of rods to fix now !
Good luck with your repairs 👍
Brilliant tips for those of us that just need to whip a new eye on to repair a rod
Thank you!
I can't fathom how this would be any less structurally sound than taping it in place first. Great technique; I'll have to give it a try!
The first few wraps at the start of the ramp going up guide foot are looser than normal. Not a huge deal, but something to consider.
Wow! Thanks for that tip!
Pretty neat idea!
Thanx for sharing! I am attempting my first rod rebuild on an old cyber stick baitcaster that my father handed down to me. That rod has caught the biggest large mouth and small mouth bass I've ever seen.
Good luck with the rebuild! Awesome that you are working on putting a rod with sentimental value back into action 👍
I'm wanting to start making my own custom rods. It is on my List.
You helping me a lot ! Bless from France
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Just saw this and I have a #20 guide to replace gonna try it in a few minutes.
Thanks for checking out the video and I hope the replacement goes well for you! Tight lines 👍
i think that was an awesome tip thank you your tips have help me learn how to wrap i am going to start doing my own wrapping going to buy your gig for wrapping rod
Thank you, I'm glad you like the video!
Well done
Great video mate cheers will be, trying that one,
I never saw such a thing you are a capo, really amazing
Great tip. Liked the way you cut at the end before pulling with the loop. I am a beginner rod builder. This video will definitely make my next build better. Thanks
I have a playlist of my rod building videos here: Fishing Rod Building - DIY Rod Building Jigs - Rod Customizing: ruclips.net/p/PLX7a8aD_4rEmd_Fl_J4RfNRsUZ3fe6fby
Hope it helps and good luck!
Great idea, although since I have shaky fingers, I may still use the tape method.
nice and very helpful
Beautiful
Tip: Bring along some small plastic tie wraps If your out fishing. If one of your rod guides becomes loose and you don't have a spare rod and reel combo, use two tie wraps on the guide foot to get you through the rest of the day. Just keep the tie wrap nub at the under part of the rod.
Thanks , now I’m going to put a guide on my rod that way and epoxy right over plastic ties too . That ought to hold it in place .
@robertlosasso4222 the right kind of thread is all you need. Even if the thread only had a break strength of 1lb (which would be really low) once you put enough turns to cover up your guide foot you have a section that is stronger than the rod itself. Anything else just adds weight and bulk that does more harm than good.
Good luck to you on your repair!
It is a slick simple technique.
Really cool Teaching there Kev.... it really does work!!!
Always enjoy see'n your tips and tricks...
Thanks! It works pretty good on light weight guides especially 👍
Very interesting. I’ve never seen an eye put on properly. My repairs SURE DONT LOOK THAT GOOD!!! Thanks
I've got a lot of other videos you might find helpful.
Here are a few:
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ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XIaNQvAQr6g/видео.html
I'm always happy to try and help if you have any questions.
Very helpful like that green on it as well
Thanks!
Awesome friend,is the best
Nice tidy job, well explained. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you for watching!
Dope! Newbie here..totally use this, thanks for sharing
Thanks and good luck with your rod building.
Great tip. For micro guides, I use rubber legs used for fly tying. They are very thin and I just wrap them several times, moderately tight and then roll them up onto the guide foot. Super easy and holds them great. I can do all my guides prior to wrapping and check alignment.
Great tip 👍
I did a video about using rubber bands as clamps for guides while building. I have a way I had done it but I found another way on another RUclips channel called Palo Fishing and mentioned it in my video. It sounds like a similar process to what you are describing here. Here is that video: ruclips.net/video/MuuCzPJ0ijU/видео.html
Nice vid. Your wraps look sweet and compact even without an excessive burnishing, and a great idea that I have used with larger guides. I do however, use a narrow strip of the Dollar General, etc., cheap/thin packaging tape laid across the tip of the guide foot, but only after the guide has been filed and tapered to an exact fit so that there are no ridges to hang thread on (and sometimes sanded smooth with 600 grit after filing when size A thread is used. Not as necessary with C, D, or E). The 1/8" - 1/4" tape strip is just a buffer to help prevent cutting of the wraps after they are completed and epoxied, when the rod flexes with casting and landing fish - much like an underwrap helps prevent gouging of the rod blank during flexing on boat/trolling/tuna rods. Applying the tape is easy because after checking for perfect fit, you just lay the tape across the guide foot, then center guide as needed onto the blank, then press down each side of tape until they meet at the bottom of the rod. Carefully run a razor blade, or X-Acto knife, down the joining of the tape joint to trim off the excess. I do this on all my medium-light to ultra-light builds and haven't had a complaint since I started building in 1972 (about an estimated 125 - 150 or so in medium-light to ultralight). Snyper Customs.
Thanks for the tip, I will remember that one! I have a lot of rod building videos on my channel, please feel free to take a look at them and offer advise in the comments that myself and others may find useful! You may want to check out the hand wrapper I designed and started building and selling on eBay. It is very nice to use and I have had a lot of nice feedback on the ones I have sold. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/C9j8CjLtVn0/видео.html
Tight lines!
With this process it puts the guide directly on the blank without a protective coating between the guide foot and blank. That can cause rubbing, (and eventually a squeaking noise ) as the rod flexes underneath the guide.
Normally no big deal, but it can cause it to scratch blank, and even weaken it over time. Good news is it's really easy to prevent by backing the guide foot, or blank with anything soft and flexible.
You could also sit there and slowly grind guide to the point it matches a perfect curvature of the blanks roundness... but that's a nightmare (I had to do it with ReC guides every time ughhh).
I agree that gluing guides suuuucks lol. I gave giant hands (I cant build any more but when I did) it made it a nightmare to do anything with smaller guides.
I never liked hot glue. (Its Florida and hot glue's natural state here is goop lol) I used ferel-tite ... its s higher temp version of a glue that is used for arrow making.
Now with that said, I haven't build since 2011 (fell I'll from a virus that took away the use of left arm/leg.)... so newer material might be available that us better than that.
Great video, and good luck. Keep brainstorming ideas. Innovation in fishing rod building is nowhere near where it should be, and the outside-the-box thinkers like yourself are pivotal in its growth.
Good onya bro. Informative video
Interesting approach, I'll try it on my next rod!
Thanks and thanks for watching! I'm definitely not an expert, I just build rods as a hobby but this works pretty well in my opinion.
Nicely done. That's one thing I've always tried to figure out. Thanks for the tip
Thanks! It works best on smaller guides but I have used the same technique on larger guides by using more tension on the thread.
Ya slick idea especially for tiny #4 microguides. I’m going to try this tonight. Tnx brother!!
No problem 👍
Great Tip! The only thing I would do extra is add a locking wrap. This just adds extra protection for when single-foot guides hit something in transit.
I use locking wraps with micro guides, but I don't use them with larger guides that have a more pronounced arrowhead shaped guide foot tip. Just a personal preference, but locking wraps don't really add much weight at all so it really doesn't hurt to use them on everything.
Thank you so much for sharing ❤️👏👏👏
I like it
n honest straight forward good old American ingenuity.
Thank you!
Well done. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
The least I could do is come check out your channel! Why have I not seen this channel before?!?! This is exactly what I'm looking to get into eventually... I break rods like crazy... I would love to start breaking my own, hahaha.
Haha! I would suggest moving to fiberglass rods. I used to break graphite rods all the time. Kayaking on small creeks and rivers is tough on rods sometimes. Most of our rods are fiberglass now. They have their plusses and minuses but I really like them for the type of fishing we do.
@@TheFishingHobby I do a ton of heavy cover, but I never break them in the heavy stuff, I break them on grass, tripping over them, had a blue gill break one once... it is stupid stuff... I'm sure the other stuff made them weak, but it is always the oddest break. I will try the fiberglass... maybe that will do it.
Any scratch that cuts the weave of the graphite (under the surface of the very thin finish on the blank) will be where a blank will break. It doesn't take much at all. Fiberglass is much tougher and can take much more abuse. Fiberglass is more flexible/impact resistant and graphite more stiff/brittle. Fiberglass rods tend to be more whippy (great for casting distance) but less sensitive. I use smaller hooks that penetrate more easily and mostly braided line to help offset the extra flex of fiberglass rods. There are trade offs, but people were catching big fish (and still are) on fiberglass rods way before graphite ever hit the market. Fiberglass rods are also cheaper...a plus for me!
@@TheFishingHobby Good explanation. Do you buy the blanks or do you make them yourself? I was watching videos of someone that had a blank on some spinning device and that is when I determined it may be over my head...
@@PondsSoloFishing I have bought blanks and also rebuilt vintage blanks. Some stores still carry fiberglass rods and Shakespeare Ugly Stiks still use fiberglass tip sections. Here is a playlist of my rod building videos if you want to look into it more. ruclips.net/p/PLX7a8aD_4rEmd_Fl_J4RfNRsUZ3fe6fby
I build my rods turning by hand on the rod wrapping jigs I make and sell on eBay. A power wrapper isn't necessary. Here is some good info on Ugly Stiks you may want to read about: buytroutlures.com/index.php/why-you-should-buy-an-ugly-stik/
Hope some of that info is useful!
Very cool! Thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I was about to stop using flourocarbon coz it fails with any knot i tie, this one never broke this is my go to knot now, it works with mono also excellent shock resistance
Perfect
Nice job!
Mate Mete thanks!
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Thanks for sharing,. One thing i can share with you, you want to end your guide wrap well before the line starts to "climb up" the blank, so maybe like 4-5 fewer wraps. The flex coat will always "fall" down hill and you end up with parts of thread showing. Also it just looks cleaner. Happy rodbuilding.
I agree 100%. I stopped going so far up a while back because I would always have to go back and add some epoxy after they dried. Thanks for pointing that out so others may read this comment and get that advise as well! Tight lines 👍
I don't understand your "fall down" statement. My wraps never move after a clear coat of color preserver, and my epoxy stays where I put it because I turn my completed rods on my homemade dryer for 6 - 8 hrs dependent on weather conditions (Humidity/Temperature/Etc.). Please explain what "FALLS DOWN", and how it does. Thanx.
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I think what he meant was that the epoxy (especially the thinner ones) may want to sag a little near the end of the wrap and leave a low spot of finish which may require a second coat to even it out. I have experienced a similar thing myself on occasion. Not a big deal and usually not an issue with "one coat" finishes in my personal experience.
Good video 👍
wow!...great vid.
Thank you!
That's a good idea!!!
Thank information
Looks clean, let us know if it holds up ok
hi thank so much 🔔🎣
Wow! Nice trick!
Just did my first guide! 7 more to go...
Could you do a video on correcting flaws on wraps? Bumps, bad tie offs, fuzz. Thx
Good idea! I should probably do that, thanks!
You could use a little glue to help keep it in place. That will also fortify the hold or reinforce the eye, when pressure is applied.
Glue is another method. I usually tape mine on while wrapping. This is just a different method I thought people would be interested in. It actually works really well on smaller guides.
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Simple!
Thanks!
I never though of this, I 've been trying to come with some way to put on the guide without having to use tape or glue.one thing that will make the guides hold in place and come off under a load pulling from the tip if the glue cracks?
Start your wrap the some way you are doing , go all the way up the guide foot to the end where you would stop and pull the tag under the wrap,, now back off one turn, take the line counter clock wise around the guide at the base were the leg meets the foot three turns , now as you come around that 3rd, turn take the line 2more turns around the other side of the guide and put the line through your pull thread. There is a name for this step I can't think what it is called, I use it on all my one footed guides ,to me it makes the guide like it finished now you could put a
I'm not familiar with that process. If you think of the name please let me know because I'd like to see it or if you can find a video post a link if you don't mind. Videos help me out a lot because I learn best by watching (like most people I'm sure). Thanks!
Hi sorry I haven't got back to you before now, had to find the info. You wanted. Spent half the day looking at most of the booksI have on Rod building, couldn't find what I was trying to tell you so I went to one place I new I could get help , I think once you look you will get it.
I have been a member on this blog going back to 2005 or 2006 , I some how got away from it should have thought of it before I started looking.OK enough said :
Go to. Rod building.org tap on Library. Look for: The Forhan locking wrap it will give you all you need to do the wrap.
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Awesome, thanks so much!
If anyone needs a epoxy mixer go to hobby lobby they only 25.00 I got one from a buddy yesterday he bought 2 one for me don't pay high price for these companies who makes thousands of them I made my own board and all working on my 6 spool thread holder now might even make 8 holder sewing machine motor with pedal only cost 25 to 35 dollars then either but the holder online Amazon or pick you up a few end caps for pvc as I did I did but one online as well but it didn't make it here for few weeks take the cap drill 3 or 4 holds in it run tap in Pick up sum plastic bolts they working great on my set up soon I'll have pictures of my set up I believe I've got less than 250.00 in it and I bought 4 aluminum bars to slide my up rites in the track works great
Great vid.. Pls can anyone explain how to install just a new ceramic disc in the eyelet, no tell out and lost it, how do you fit them in ?
You will have to replace the guide. Here is how to remove the old one: ruclips.net/video/WjgOdh4lYeY/видео.html
And here is how to install a new one:
ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
@@TheFishingHobby Many thanks and thanks for the vids nicely explained kind regards from Greece 👍🎣
I notice the high tech cardboard box you use (same as I do 👍) and also you wind turning top of the blank away from you. What are you using to hold the thread straight down rather than out front where the thread has to come from underneath instead of straight up which I think is much better
Here is how I set up the cardboard box jig: ruclips.net/video/wEC8ktjlYTk/видео.html
I actually build and sell some nice wrapping jigs if you are ever in the market for one. Here is a link to those: ruclips.net/video/C9j8CjLtVn0/видео.html
The box jig is a great way to get started but the jigs I sell make doing wraps a lot easier. I just like seeing people involved with rod building either way 👍
Enjoyed the video. I will try this out myself. Just curious what thread did you use for the guide wraps?
It is Coats and Clark polyester machine embroidery thread.
Left some steps out - the white cord? I worked it out from other vids.
It is the same size thread in white instead of green. I normally use the same thread that I'm wrapping with to make my pull through loops, but I used a different color for this video.
Thanks - it looks wonderful
you skipped thru the white thread thing at the end. I have never tied one b4.
My main problem is the rod thread catching on my fingers or thumb onthe skin and then splitting the thread which then gets all twisty and curly .
I have never had that problem. What thread are you using?
I decided to go a step further and reveal yet another method. Took me quite a while to figure this out. take a 1/4" wood bead cut a rubber band in half and feed one end thru the bead with a whipping loop or threading tool. g Go around the rod with the tag end of rubber band and pull it thru the bead. It is now cinched to the rod and you are free to move it up or down the rod blank enabling you to slide the guide under the loop. really hope you guys see the economy of my method. Tight lines. PS, Hobby Lobby has wood beads, probably Wally's too.
Sounds like a great tip. I will give it a shot 👍
Great idea thanks what are you using to run across the threads when you’re done looks like it works great
I think it was a paint pen. I don't really remember! Almost anything made of smooth plastic will do the job 👍
Can u put nail polish after that wrap?
Yes you can. Clear nail polish is nitrocellulose lacquer which is what was used on rods a long time ago before epoxy. Some clear nail polishes are much thicker than what was used so on rods so you may need to either use some nail polish thinner with it or heat it so it isn't as thick when applying. You can search on Google and find a lot of tips for thinning nail polish.
won't work with a double guide foot on casting rods though
It will not work on any heavy weight guide. I've used this technique on double foot snake guides, but those are extremely light weight.
I need your help is this normal fishing braid
I was using polyester machine embroidery thread in this video.
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What did you use on the thread at the end to smooth out the thread lines to make it look more consistent?
It was just the side of a marker.
Nice video !! I have a question. Would you recommend creating a ''base layer'' of thread wrapping for the guide to sit on, in order to avoid the direct contact of the metal guide and the blank? (and basically follow the whole process on top of that ''base layer'' )
Sorry, just now seeing this! Underwraps are used a lot on large saltwater rods but not really used for most freshwater rods. You do want to make sure there are no metal burs on the bottom of the guide to scratch the finish.
The Fishing Hobby Thank you very much for your response 😊 That's useful information!
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Left out steps and what products used so I didn't really get anything from it.
Products used: machine embroidery thread. No steps taken, I was sitting down 👍
You never mentioned what type of string your using and you skipped the last part showing us how to finish it
Thanks for commenting! It is Coats and Clark trilobal polyester thread machine embroidery thread. When you say finish it are you talking about epoxy? This video was mostly done just show a different way of starting a wrap without taping or glueing the guide in place. Here is another video I did that is a little more in depth on doing guide wraps, I hope it helps you out: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
@ The Fishing Hobby, Very interesting/nice video sir & thanks for sharing. Although not 100% sure on the step with white thread??. Also do you think or would you use same technic for say anything from a small icefishing rod to a bigger say trolling rod? Thanks in advance.
What is the name of tool or was it just a small bottle you used to rub across thread? That seemed to be to even/tighten thread. Again thanks in advance. Tight lines.
The white thread is just a loop of thread that you wrap over. The loop end will be in the side where your tag end will be from the thread you are wrapping with. Cut the main thread and run it through the loop and pull the loop out from the side that you wrapped over. The loop will pull the tag end of your main color under those wraps locking it in place.
I'd use this technique mostly for smaller guides because larger guides are heavier and harder to keep in place with this method.
This is a better method for larger guides: ruclips.net/video/MuuCzPJ0ijU/видео.html
It was just a marker or highlighter or something. You can use the back of your fingernail or anything fairly smooth that won't damage the thread.
@@TheFishingHobby,Ok thanks sir. As thought it was to pull tag in under to secure but wanted to make sure. Ok thanks again for that link,As if I was too try to do one it most likely would be a lil icefishing rod. But who knows if liked & turned out good just might try a summer rod or maybe even a trolling rod. Although not sure will even try as not sure worth the cost of everything not to mention cost of blanks,eyelets,etc on top of rod lathe/holder,epoxy,thread,etc. Especially without being able to see/know cost of everything as well as to see/watch how it's done first.
@@TheFishingHobby oh ok thanks sir. As it looked like a little white bottle of some sort to me in video. Just asked as wasn't sure if right or was some kind of tool sold for that & happen to just look like an ordinary bottle. Thanks again & tight lines.
What size thread was that??
It is actually machine embroidery thread, just a little smaller in diameter than size A rod wrapping thread.
Hey bro ! What type of line are you using to wrap your guide ? Thx....zaid from mauritius
I was using this: Coats & Clark Emb C&C Trilobal Poly Embroidery 600yd Neon Green www.amazon.com/dp/B00YNZLMQ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_V1JaDbYPXCD40
What if you have a double foot ring?
I'd probably just use tape in that case. I still use tape most of the time to start my wraps. This technique in the video works best with smaller guides. It works really well with micro guides too.
Where do u get the cord to buy?
The thread is Coats and Clark polyester machine embroidery thread from Walmart
What thread do I use
Most people use rod wrapping thread from a rod building supplier. I use polyester machine embroidery thread. Here is a video I did about it:
ruclips.net/video/EuAdjqtSSJQ/видео.html
You can't rush art.
I'd agree with that. If you're building a rod take your time. This is just a quick way to wrap a guide I thought would be useful to someone replacing a guide.
@@TheFishingHobby I have to do the same repair to my fav rod and your video helped me clarify a correct and accurate technique to repair my rod. Which will save me some of my hard earned money. Thank you, for making the video.
I'm glad it was useful to you!
I have another video that may be helpful to you for applying the epoxy: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
Last part with white thread is unclear
Sorry, I have another video here that goes into more detail about that part.
ruclips.net/video/TVmgzIjosVM/видео.htmlsi=1kJcTbiyooVQjHIZ
The part of the video that shows the pull through loop process starts around 3:10 into the video, hope it helps!
Too you skipped the section leading into 5:01
This video followed another one I did that explained wrapping over the pull through loop in detail. This video was more about starting a guide with no tape, glue or clamps. The video I did that explained the whole wrapping process is this one: ruclips.net/video/MV135FdESiY/видео.html
And at the 6:35 mark of that video shows how to insert and wrap over a pull through loop. Hope that helps!
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Why make an easy job harder...just use a bit of tape
Sean Duggan tape is easy and I'd recommend that often. This is just another method, not a better one.
The Fishing Hobby Fair do’s, but viewing it, it comes over as a tad clumsy, sorta like reinventing the wheel, but yeh, I get where you’re coming from, but 3:12, it’s just begging for a sliver of tape ;)
It is actually pretty easy to do when you aren't trying to watch through the legs of a tripod while checking the camera view periodically. I have a better way to record videos now but that is how I was doing it at the time I was recording the video. Most of my rod building videos look awkward because of that. In a newer video I did on doing guidewraps and finish manual turning/drying I was using a newer video recording setup that made doing the video while recording much easier and the results looked less awkward. Recording while building makes the process trickier than it needs to be, no doubt about it!
The Fishing Hobby obviously you’re a straight up guy, and trying to help the next guy to make lives easier...for that I can’t fault ya mate👍🏻
Thank you sir! If anyone reading these comments isn't familiar with what we are talking about, taping the guide onto the blank is definitely an easier method and highly recommend for beginners because the method shown in this video is more tricky. Here is a video I did to show how you can do a basic wrap and finish by hand without a special drying motor if you are learning to wrap guides: ruclips.net/video/BxRtH4dHK58/видео.html
To tedious
Intro way too long
SnorryHobo I agree, it is very short on the newer videos.
That style of guide, you are asking for it to break off. I avoid those. Get the type with metallic supports from the other side of eyelet.
That particular guide was just a junk one for demonstration purposes. That said, I only use single foot guides and have never had a frame break. I build ultralight freshwater rods and single foot guides are perfectly fine for that use.