Really wish something like Half-Trolls would become a thing, to make them at least somewhat playable. That way you could balance their features out, while still keeping the cool theme and aesthetic of playing a troll. Half-Orcs did that really well in the past, and I hope Trolls will go that route eventually as well. 😁
In the mythology, some trolls or troll-like creatures were immune to ordinary weapons. For example, in Beowulf, the monster Grendel and his Mother are both unfazed by normal blades. Perhaps that sort of thing is the rough origin for a troll's regeneration.
I have this idea for a half troll barbarian where his clothing and fighting style mimic those of the monks who raised him , he just doesn’t have the mental facilities to harness ki so instead he uses his unnaturally high strength and constitution to fight barehanded or with a large sized bo staff . I named the character Kong, he’s this 8 foot tall swole cinnamon roll of a boy
The best way to deal with regen is to limit its healing capabilities to half your health. It can only heal half your max hp. Everything else is permanent, which helps to keep short rests viable. The other thing I might do is add in vulnerability to the damage that stops the regeneration. I would recommend making the vulnerability either 1.5x damage instead of 2x, or run it in a more unique way where vulnerability just causes the character to take an extra die of the damage that you took. This is the best I can do for balancing out this incredibly powerful feature. Love the video dude! Might try and build out my own variation of the troll myself as a playable race.
I'm currently playing a Troll fighter in my campaign. We went with natural thick hide using barbarian unarmoured defense, medium size, enhanced smell and darkvision, claws and bite attack, a burrow speed of 15ft, immunity to ingested toxins and disease, and the regeneration mechanic we use is CON modifier per turn. The acid and fire turns off regen if in death saves. +1 strength and +2 con. Oh, and long arms make an extra 5 feet of reach, as well as powerful build for being beefy. The game setting allows for "civilized" trolls.
Troll barbarian PC is the "experiment" of the wizard PC, endowed with enhanced Int/wis and raised since young. Regeneration works as con modifier per round and limbs regenerate fully in 1d4-1 days if severed, head = unconscious for same 1d4-1 days. Med sized. ( Increase every 10 lvls 1 size class , large lvl 10 huge lvl 20) +1 str +2con -1 wis, int capped at 10 unless magically increased more(items/boons) +5ft reach with melee and Unarmored def both as racial abilities. No armor. Limited to fighter/barbarian/rogue with further subclass restrictions(no magic use) and penalties to picklocks and range attacks(except thrown). Claw and bite attacks (1d6/1d4+1) immunity to poison and poisoned conditon and diseases. Long rest on 4hrs.
Hey rook, watched your video on playing a large character a while ago and thought it would be a cool idea, so I rolled up a Loxodon Cleric and ran with it (after conferring with my DM ofc), but honestly, hasn't proven as fun (or challenging is a better word I guess) as I thought it would be. Playing something like this definitely ticks more of my boxes, and wouldn't have been something I had thought of in the first place, so thanks! Your vids are not only funny but always give me interesting ideas for what to play, keep it up!
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing your story and I'm glad you got to try it out. I'm always looking for fun challenges to try, you could always go for a tiny creature in the next one :D or if large isn't enough how about a huge Dragon Tortle.
Awesome. I keep sharing your videos with my players and now I feel like I'm obliged to run a high fantasy monster campaign for them. Not that I'm complaining.
Depending on how large your Troll is, would it be at all possible to dual wield two Ultra-Greatswords? Just imagine swinging around people sized blades, chopping a group of foes apart.
Actually, there's deferent types of trolls in mythologies cave trolls are the one turn to stone underneath sunlight, mountain trolls are the one can walk underneath sunlight without turning to stone which is strange and for some reason goblins too turn into stone underneath the sunlight. In some mythologies some goblins are related to Faires and elves were kings among them while some of them were housekeepers for people.
Well yeah playing as a cr5 monster makes you very strong for gameplay. If you wanna do troll can do half troll take goliath reflavor stones endurance as instant healing. Then take a class tha has a lot of healing and damage resistance like bear barb or rune knight.
Imagine a Dire Troll getting Magical affinity traits by mutations... Then using Blood Magic. 😨 Actually they can just get all D&D traits. Basically Omnipotent
Great video, I've been looking forward to a troll related one for awhile! Actually, it reminds me of a character I've never used. The lore around mountain trolls in dnd, being chaotic neutral, having good terms with the fae, keeping their smaller forest cousins in check, and even tolerating visitors, it all seemed rather cool. So, I decided to reskin a playable troll race and make a paladin that focused on healing magic. The idea was that it was left out to die by it's mother (better than getting eaten, like a regular troll), and was found by a merciful paladin that chose to raise him in his church and, in order to hide what he is, give him heavy armor and play him off as a warforged. I could never come up with any good idea for a name though. Any ideas?
its interesting how trolls have been burned into d&d as regenerating monsters weak to fire ever since Gary Gygax made them so. i prefer 2 homebrews of (potentially) friendly trolls: "tail trolls" wich are more norwegian inspiered (minus the sun petrification) & "tusk trolls" wich essentially copys warcrafts spiritual tribal folk. These 2 can fill the roles of enemy or npc & even pc .Tho if you just want a simple pure evil monster, OG dnd trolls are A-OK
What about their ability to eat fey creatures to gain abilities... would you remove that ability all together? Cuz I've seen people talk bout a troll eating a rust monster or dragon and that just sounds terrible time for whatever is fighting it.
Interesting I've played with them being warped by their environment. Where did you find that trait. It could be a fun addition. I'd probbably only allow one type at a time
I'd love to play as a troll. There could be some pygmy humanoid troll that evolved to be smaller and more cunning, to make it work. I saw proposition for playable island type of troll and it would be perfect. We have like 7 playable elf races, and not a single troll. Come on! Give us playable trolls
I would play a troll with a mask that doesnt allow him to eat at all. This would make him weaker, nerf his passive regeneration, and not make him as evil since theres no point on killin if he cant eat that meat. Would make them more socially acceptable, since it would just be an uglier half orc that can regenerate
His motivation would be to take the mask off, maybe its a curse or something, and only when he starts to do some good for somebody can he take it off and finally taste some good fucking food. I would aslo make them a cook, since he starves taste so much. I guess it would be a true neutral, a naturally evil chaotic being forced to behave on a morally correct way and to follow rules
Well it isn’t a troll but it is a big dumb green guy (ogre) Gorg used to adventure around the world and accidentally through stupid circumstances help people, he didn’t enjoy doing it but it just kept happening and through even more bs he become the main guard of a king or some shit (this was like 3 years ago) well one day in a carriage after the campaign had ended he was guarding the king when a giant red dragon swooped down and Gorg being Gorg hated anything bigger than himself, blindly charging and putting up a valiant fight but dying just short of finishing it off, he was later buried and had this huge funeral and hundreds of years later in the campaign I’m currently playing a half ogre in his statue still stands tall.
@@Rookzer0 we successfully killed 11 of them, and lost my favorite npc in the process due to him being thrown into a wall by one of said trolls and the one person who had spare the dying couldnt pass the medicine check to see if he needed it. And it took several hours and all of our patience. (the other five turned tail and ran after seeing my character cleave off a troll head)
Really wish something like Half-Trolls would become a thing, to make them at least somewhat playable. That way you could balance their features out, while still keeping the cool theme and aesthetic of playing a troll. Half-Orcs did that really well in the past, and I hope Trolls will go that route eventually as well. 😁
I'm playing a 1/4 troll human basically I had to fudge around with a few things in a Pathfinder game first edition
wathcing you try to draw the tusks for ages is a mood
Sigh.... your not wrong
Ya. It sure is comforting to see a professional struggling with that sort of thing just like the rest of us.
Your "Why you should play..." videos are my absolute favorite. If you take suggestions, i think centaur would be a splendid race to go over
It's on my list! Thank you for the suggestion
In the mythology, some trolls or troll-like creatures were immune to ordinary weapons. For example, in Beowulf, the monster Grendel and his Mother are both unfazed by normal blades. Perhaps that sort of thing is the rough origin for a troll's regeneration.
I love these videos, the humour mixed with knowledge of the games and confidence to bend the rules is just 👌👌👌
Thank you!
Awesome job Rook! Gotta say, I really dig the new coloring method of painting all over the figure and then just clipping it.
Wonder where I got that from
I have this idea for a half troll barbarian where his clothing and fighting style mimic those of the monks who raised him , he just doesn’t have the mental facilities to harness ki so instead he uses his unnaturally high strength and constitution to fight barehanded or with a large sized bo staff . I named the character Kong, he’s this 8 foot tall swole cinnamon roll of a boy
The best way to deal with regen is to limit its healing capabilities to half your health. It can only heal half your max hp. Everything else is permanent, which helps to keep short rests viable. The other thing I might do is add in vulnerability to the damage that stops the regeneration. I would recommend making the vulnerability either 1.5x damage instead of 2x, or run it in a more unique way where vulnerability just causes the character to take an extra die of the damage that you took. This is the best I can do for balancing out this incredibly powerful feature. Love the video dude! Might try and build out my own variation of the troll myself as a playable race.
Some great ideas, definitely a lot of ways to get it to work.
aren't trolls weak to fire damage? that could be the vulnerability you were talking about.
I'm currently playing a Troll fighter in my campaign. We went with natural thick hide using barbarian unarmoured defense, medium size, enhanced smell and darkvision, claws and bite attack, a burrow speed of 15ft, immunity to ingested toxins and disease, and the regeneration mechanic we use is CON modifier per turn. The acid and fire turns off regen if in death saves. +1 strength and +2 con. Oh, and long arms make an extra 5 feet of reach, as well as powerful build for being beefy. The game setting allows for "civilized" trolls.
In my setting I have a troll, Helga Underbridge, CEO of the Underbridge building firm (they specialize in bridges)
Ha ha awesome. Great work
Troll barbarian PC is the "experiment" of the wizard PC, endowed with enhanced Int/wis and raised since young. Regeneration works as con modifier per round and limbs regenerate fully in 1d4-1 days if severed, head = unconscious for same 1d4-1 days. Med sized. ( Increase every 10 lvls 1 size class , large lvl 10 huge lvl 20) +1 str +2con -1 wis, int capped at 10 unless magically increased more(items/boons) +5ft reach with melee and Unarmored def both as racial abilities. No armor. Limited to fighter/barbarian/rogue with further subclass restrictions(no magic use) and penalties to picklocks and range attacks(except thrown). Claw and bite attacks (1d6/1d4+1) immunity to poison and poisoned conditon and diseases. Long rest on 4hrs.
Hey rook, watched your video on playing a large character a while ago and thought it would be a cool idea, so I rolled up a Loxodon Cleric and ran with it (after conferring with my DM ofc), but honestly, hasn't proven as fun (or challenging is a better word I guess) as I thought it would be. Playing something like this definitely ticks more of my boxes, and wouldn't have been something I had thought of in the first place, so thanks! Your vids are not only funny but always give me interesting ideas for what to play, keep it up!
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing your story and I'm glad you got to try it out. I'm always looking for fun challenges to try, you could always go for a tiny creature in the next one :D or if large isn't enough how about a huge Dragon Tortle.
Great video Rook
Thanks!
Awesome. I keep sharing your videos with my players and now I feel like I'm obliged to run a high fantasy monster campaign for them. Not that I'm complaining.
I will eventually have to do the human video... hard to go much lower fantasy. Maybe I could build out a campaign for a fish. Or a box turtle.
@@Rookzer0 I can see it now: Why you should play a Trash Panda.
Depending on how large your Troll is, would it be at all possible to dual wield two Ultra-Greatswords? Just imagine swinging around people sized blades, chopping a group of foes apart.
We do a bit of trolling
How about playing as a half troll?
Kobold press has Troll-kin race in their Midgard Heroes book, which can work with D&D 5th edition. Maybe that help you out
You could do that I would definitely drop the regen to a very small level.
Hell of a video good job Rook
Thank you!
I like your content, it lets me put my ideas in dnd
I'm glad you're getting your ideas into the game!
Actually, there's deferent types of trolls in mythologies cave trolls are the one turn to stone underneath sunlight, mountain trolls are the one can walk underneath sunlight without turning to stone which is strange and for some reason goblins too turn into stone underneath the sunlight.
In some mythologies some goblins are related to Faires and elves were kings among them while some of them were housekeepers for people.
Well yeah playing as a cr5 monster makes you very strong for gameplay. If you wanna do troll can do half troll take goliath reflavor stones endurance as instant healing. Then take a class tha has a lot of healing and damage resistance like bear barb or rune knight.
Since my run in with Dick Bridges, I only cross in the sunlight.
why you should play as a golem, or like an awakened shield guardian.
Troll-verine berserker would be dope to play as.
Natural weapons with adamntine augments
@@Rookzer0 And the troll's bones as well.
Imagine a Dire Troll getting Magical affinity traits by mutations...
Then using Blood Magic. 😨
Actually they can just get all D&D traits. Basically Omnipotent
Trolls should be somenof the most versatile creats around
imagine a troll that went through its mutation thing as a result of psychic attacks from mindflayers so it developed intelligence and psionics
Great video, I've been looking forward to a troll related one for awhile!
Actually, it reminds me of a character I've never used. The lore around mountain trolls in dnd, being chaotic neutral, having good terms with the fae, keeping their smaller forest cousins in check, and even tolerating visitors, it all seemed rather cool. So, I decided to reskin a playable troll race and make a paladin that focused on healing magic. The idea was that it was left out to die by it's mother (better than getting eaten, like a regular troll), and was found by a merciful paladin that chose to raise him in his church and, in order to hide what he is, give him heavy armor and play him off as a warforged.
I could never come up with any good idea for a name though. Any ideas?
Clavidka
I feel like it should be a good warforged named like 13 or something. TR-001
AMAZING
Thank you!
its interesting how trolls have been burned into d&d as regenerating monsters weak to fire ever since Gary Gygax made them so.
i prefer 2 homebrews of (potentially) friendly trolls: "tail trolls" wich are more norwegian inspiered (minus the sun petrification)
& "tusk trolls" wich essentially copys warcrafts spiritual tribal folk.
These 2 can fill the roles of enemy or npc & even pc .Tho if you just want a simple pure evil monster, OG dnd trolls are A-OK
What about their ability to eat fey creatures to gain abilities... would you remove that ability all together? Cuz I've seen people talk bout a troll eating a rust monster or dragon and that just sounds terrible time for whatever is fighting it.
Interesting I've played with them being warped by their environment. Where did you find that trait. It could be a fun addition. I'd probbably only allow one type at a time
Pretty cool not gonna lie
thank you
This was nice.
Thank you!
I found a fun one where you could have more heads arms and eyes
Sounds about right! Let me know if you get to play it!
My ideer is a 8 armes where two of the arms were build to fight while the others was more to mainpolate with the envirmen
@@esbeng.s.a9761 very cool. did you take a feat to do that or did your dm just allow it as part of the character
@@Rookzer0 no it was more just ideers, and I never ended up play the character because I don't have a group at the movement
I'd love to play as a troll. There could be some pygmy humanoid troll that evolved to be smaller and more cunning, to make it work. I saw proposition for playable island type of troll and it would be perfect. We have like 7 playable elf races, and not a single troll. Come on! Give us playable trolls
Oh Gawd
How about making regeneration an action? (Keep in mind that I don't play DnD very much) maybe like 5hp per round used, and only in combat?
Interesting idea, focused self healing could be a pretty good compramise
trolls take damage to max health from burns, gotcha
I really like the dual HP it makes it easier for me to keep track of when they die
I would play a troll with a mask that doesnt allow him to eat at all. This would make him weaker, nerf his passive regeneration, and not make him as evil since theres no point on killin if he cant eat that meat. Would make them more socially acceptable, since it would just be an uglier half orc that can regenerate
His motivation would be to take the mask off, maybe its a curse or something, and only when he starts to do some good for somebody can he take it off and finally taste some good fucking food.
I would aslo make them a cook, since he starves taste so much. I guess it would be a true neutral, a naturally evil chaotic being forced to behave on a morally correct way and to follow rules
Interesting idea.
Well it isn’t a troll but it is a big dumb green guy (ogre) Gorg used to adventure around the world and accidentally through stupid circumstances help people, he didn’t enjoy doing it but it just kept happening and through even more bs he become the main guard of a king or some shit (this was like 3 years ago) well one day in a carriage after the campaign had ended he was guarding the king when a giant red dragon swooped down and Gorg being Gorg hated anything bigger than himself, blindly charging and putting up a valiant fight but dying just short of finishing it off, he was later buried and had this huge funeral and hundreds of years later in the campaign I’m currently playing a half ogre in his statue still stands tall.
My name is Finn and the start of the video scared me because it sounded like my name lol
i like to think anything is playable you just have to scale properly
My best bet is 1 hp every 2 levels rounded down
Is it possible to make half trolls?
Yes using the race builder in 3.5 is pretty easy to do.
@@Rookzer0 THANK YOU
What did you use to draw this?
Wdym monster lvls?
Monsters have levels just like plays that determin their skills feats and hit dice. You can find some of this info in older edditions
@@Rookzer0 oooh
Cool
THANK YOU
That moment when my dm threw 16 trolls at us....
How did that end up
@@Rookzer0 we successfully killed 11 of them, and lost my favorite npc in the process due to him being thrown into a wall by one of said trolls and the one person who had spare the dying couldnt pass the medicine check to see if he needed it. And it took several hours and all of our patience. (the other five turned tail and ran after seeing my character cleave off a troll head)
wait.. theres an option to play as a troll? i need to see this player race sheet. request for sauce
I suppose I'll have to write it up
WERE TROLLS i hear they are a traumatic thing to fight
I dig it