just like another guy down the comments, I just finished reading this scene on the book, but i just couldn't comprehend what had happened. Thank you, sir, for this video!!
I have finished the book and came to RUclips to better understand what happened and I’m so glad I find your channel. You’re so talented. Thank you so much for all your videos. They are extremely helpful.❤
Excellent video very well done. I finished the book last month but didn't know that Moghedien was blow away by the blast. She was acting very cowardly for sure. Aginor nearly won being killed by a member on his own side Black Ajah.
I still can’t get over the revelation that Veren’s little weave of compulsion was so strong the she unknowingly caused a a sister of the black ajah to destroy one of the forsaken…!
It’s also kind of important that Osan’gar basically died *as* Corlan Dashiva. Elza Penfell, a Black Sister only being this “loyal” due to Verin Mathwin’s quasi-Compulsion making Elza believe Rand must be protected to reach the Last Battle (So the Dark One can defeat him), never knew she killed one of the Forsaken. Cadsuane was upset she lost an Aes Sedai, an Asha’man, and had a second Aes Sedai emotionally compromised by the death of said Asha’man Warder, in exchange for “A few singed Forsaken, and one dead renegade.” Had Cadsuane known they bagged the maker of all Shadowspawn, she probably would have been a bit more satisfied with the trade off. I loved this battle, and you did a wonderful job of laying it out, but I think Jordan painted himself into a bit of a corner, by killing off so many Forsaken so early. It was a little hard for me to believe that NONE of the Forsaken who made critical misjudgements within easy striking distance of Light-combatants suffered any major injury, let alone death. This would have been a GREAT place to let the Light score a more decisive victory by letting one of the groups kill Grendaal, then have that be the capstone failure that caused the Dark One to revive her as the hideous witch, Hassalaam. I mean, it’s emphasized time and again the Forsaken (minus Moridin, who apparently has a storehouse of goodies that would have been impressive in an Age of Legends armory, yet aside from the dreamspikes let’s it all go unused), that the Forsaken are desperate to locate any angreals/sa’angreals, whereas every circle on the side of the light had at least one, and sometimes more. Alicia not even INJURING Lanfear/Cyndane was infuriating, after the big deal that was made of her centuries experience with battle-weaving as a Damane. Lanfear’s 1st hit just dissolved for no visible reason, yet her response was delayed enough for Cyndane to be ready to easily sever the flows. I wasn’t asking for an Alivia win here. Just maybe one of Cyndane’s cheeks being badly blistered by a barely turned/dissipated fire-weave, followed by an expert fighting withdrawal after she winged Alicia badly.
The weakness of Alivia was, that despite all of her strength and battle knowledge, she didn’t know how to invert the flows so all of her attacks we’re easy to counter. On the other hand she had to defend blindly against the attacks from Cyndane. If not for the terangreal that dissipated saidar she would have been dead in the first seconds of the fight. The injury she suffered must have been from a blast that Cyndane made near her. The only reason the Forsaken survived is their deeper knowledge of the power, the trap that Cadsuane has organized was brilliant.
No she didnt. She used Saidin wrought fire only. The reason why Osan'gar wasn't resurrected is the the dark one does not give third chances. Even for a second chance you have to stand in high regard by him and you will regret deeply getting it
I don't think the forsaken knew about Rand's plan in advance. Every channeler in randland and perhaps the world could sense the vast amount of power being wielded. I thought Rand's plan took into account that certain members of the chosen, as well as other channelers able to travel would inevitably show up.
A little earlier, in Winter's Heart, there's a chapter in which the Forsaken gather to discuss what to do about Rand's plan of cleansing Saidin. They knew, and Demandred even states that he guessed that Rand would choose Shadar Logoth to do it.
@@Luinedhel Precisely. It was Rands plan that caused the renegade ashaman to attack him in cairhein, as the forsaken ordered Rands death, which to that point they had gone out of their way to avoid.
Funnily enough, Osan’gar who has the least skill in all things of the current age, is actually the one who comes closest to winning the battle if he hadn’t gotten unlucky at the last moment!
Have you finished the books? There’s another consequence of this event (it’s totally unrelated to the main plot) and you kinda hinted at it, regarding the saidar choden kal
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just like another guy down the comments, I just finished reading this scene on the book, but i just couldn't comprehend what had happened. Thank you, sir, for this video!!
Thanks to you for watching!
Hands down 1 of my top 5 favorite scenes in the book series. Thank you for this
I'm glad you liked it. More WoT content is on its way
I am crying with joy at hearing the words pronounced correctly!
Just read this scene a bit ago and wanted to see some sort of visualization for anything I missed. Thank you!!! Good job!
Good summarization and commentary. I like these videos, keep 'em coming!
Thanks! I'm preparing winter's heart summary right now
One day your channel will become hit. We support you
Thank you very much for your kind words😉
I have finished the book and came to RUclips to better understand what happened and I’m so glad I find your channel.
You’re so talented. Thank you so much for all your videos. They are extremely helpful.❤
Thanks for your kind words, I'm glad the videos helped you visualize the scenes🙏
What a great animation and story telling. Thank you for taking the time to create it
This was quite wonderful thank you :)
Thanks a lot!
Thanks for this visual of the battle. Sometimes,just reading the chapter isn't quite enough
I'm glad it was helpful
Excellent video very well done. I finished the book last month but didn't know that Moghedien was blow away by the blast. She was acting very cowardly for sure. Aginor nearly won being killed by a member on his own side Black Ajah.
I still can’t get over the revelation that Veren’s little weave of compulsion was so strong the she unknowingly caused a a sister of the black ajah to destroy one of the forsaken…!
@@Sir_TophamHatt I did wonder about that as well, he was in a different body but come on now these guys are supposed to be tough.
It’s also kind of important that Osan’gar basically died *as* Corlan Dashiva.
Elza Penfell, a Black Sister only being this “loyal” due to Verin Mathwin’s quasi-Compulsion making Elza believe Rand must be protected to reach the Last Battle (So the Dark One can defeat him), never knew she killed one of the Forsaken.
Cadsuane was upset she lost an Aes Sedai, an Asha’man, and had a second Aes Sedai emotionally compromised by the death of said Asha’man Warder, in exchange for “A few singed Forsaken, and one dead renegade.”
Had Cadsuane known they bagged the maker of all Shadowspawn, she probably would have been a bit more satisfied with the trade off.
I loved this battle, and you did a wonderful job of laying it out, but I think Jordan painted himself into a bit of a corner, by killing off so many Forsaken so early.
It was a little hard for me to believe that NONE of the Forsaken who made critical misjudgements within easy striking distance of Light-combatants suffered any major injury, let alone death.
This would have been a GREAT place to let the Light score a more decisive victory by letting one of the groups kill Grendaal, then have that be the capstone failure that caused the Dark One to revive her as the hideous witch, Hassalaam.
I mean, it’s emphasized time and again the Forsaken (minus Moridin, who apparently has a storehouse of goodies that would have been impressive in an Age of Legends armory, yet aside from the dreamspikes let’s it all go unused), that the Forsaken are desperate to locate any angreals/sa’angreals, whereas every circle on the side of the light had at least one, and sometimes more.
Alicia not even INJURING Lanfear/Cyndane was infuriating, after the big deal that was made of her centuries experience with battle-weaving as a Damane. Lanfear’s 1st hit just dissolved for no visible reason, yet her response was delayed enough for Cyndane to be ready to easily sever the flows.
I wasn’t asking for an Alivia win here. Just maybe one of Cyndane’s cheeks being badly blistered by a barely turned/dissipated fire-weave, followed by an expert fighting withdrawal after she winged Alicia badly.
But they didn't use balefire on "Dashiva" so he can be reincarnated.
Cyndane being forced to flee is an injury to her pride, much worse
The weakness of Alivia was, that despite all of her strength and battle knowledge, she didn’t know how to invert the flows so all of her attacks we’re easy to counter. On the other hand she had to defend blindly against the attacks from Cyndane. If not for the terangreal that dissipated saidar she would have been dead in the first seconds of the fight. The injury she suffered must have been from a blast that Cyndane made near her. The only reason the Forsaken survived is their deeper knowledge of the power, the trap that Cadsuane has organized was brilliant.
Excellent video, can't wait for the one on the last battle.
Oh, I definitely wanna do it. But I'm still reading Crossroads of Twilight yet. I'm gonna be there though, wait for me😉
Thank you so much, this was incredibly helpful
Thanks! Another WoT battle dropping this week
This was cool... im in KoD on my reread, but i might have to pull my copy of WH off the shelf and reread this battle - well done!
Fantastic video! Please keep them coming. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you! I just finished that last night!
I could watch this over the show any day.
Thanks! I'm working on more WoT. The battle of Maradon is coming.
Elsa sedai uses Balefire, not just a fireball. It wipes Osangar from the Pattern completely. Hence no resurrection for him.
No she didnt. She used Saidin wrought fire only. The reason why Osan'gar wasn't resurrected is the the dark one does not give third chances. Even for a second chance you have to stand in high regard by him and you will regret deeply getting it
@@gairon9724 Interesting. You're right
The forsaken did not know the specifics of the plan. Demandred works it out upon seeing it.
This is cool, i hope you do more!
Already working on some more
Great video. Keep them coming. :)
One more coming soon
I don't think the forsaken knew about Rand's plan in advance. Every channeler in randland and perhaps the world could sense the vast amount of power being wielded. I thought Rand's plan took into account that certain members of the chosen, as well as other channelers able to travel would inevitably show up.
A little earlier, in Winter's Heart, there's a chapter in which the Forsaken gather to discuss what to do about Rand's plan of cleansing Saidin. They knew, and Demandred even states that he guessed that Rand would choose Shadar Logoth to do it.
@@Luinedhel oh cool, I did think that you must have done more research than me but hubris is a bitch lol
@@Luinedhel Precisely. It was Rands plan that caused the renegade ashaman to attack him in cairhein, as the forsaken ordered Rands death, which to that point they had gone out of their way to avoid.
Chosen…Dark Friend!!!
Interesting using the word "Chosen"... 🤨
This was dope. Thank you
This video is really cool.
Thanks for supporting always!
ufaa me encanto!!!... aun que aun no llegue a esa parte pero me encanto
Gracias! Más vienen en camino
Alivia🔥
Great video!
Funnily enough, Osan’gar who has the least skill in all things of the current age, is actually the one who comes closest to winning the battle if he hadn’t gotten unlucky at the last moment!
Pretty sweet. Coming from Reddit.
The almighty reddit
great video. gj bro
Cool video. New sub for you 😉
Thanks! New battle video coming soon... Maybe even tomorrow!
Great Job!!!!
Cadsuane lives up to her legend
I regret that I can only give you one like
Have you finished the books? There’s another consequence of this event (it’s totally unrelated to the main plot) and you kinda hinted at it, regarding the saidar choden kal
No, I haven't finished yet, I'm still reading The Gathering Storm. Now I'm curious, but I'll have to wait until A Memory of Light.
Man we need a Last Battle video.
And I'll do it! 🙏But I'm progressing slowly. I swear I'll make it before the Age of Legends comes again.
Have you done one for the last battle?
Not yet. I'm currently at Towers of Midnight
Dope
Wow, you are going to make Wheel of Time look even worse by producing a better show in your spare time.