Pimax Crystal on a RTX3080 Ti - First Thoughts + DCS World & HP Reverb G2 Comparison + Tips & Tricks

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @VRFlightSimGuy
    @VRFlightSimGuy Год назад +53

    "Not a VR guy" - Could have fooled me, this video is absolutely excellent. Thanks so much for your review.

    • @sascenturion
      @sascenturion Год назад +2

      Great to see you here too steve 😊👍

    • @VRFlightSimGuy
      @VRFlightSimGuy Год назад +1

      @@sascenturion Hey buddy! 👋😁

    • @MNHemiGuy
      @MNHemiGuy Год назад +2

      Stevo spreading the love...❤

    • @poolhallshark
      @poolhallshark Год назад +2

      I agree, Steve, this was an absolute top notch review! Nice to see you here 👍👍👍

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it mate, your videos are the level I aspire to! I've been a long time fan of your work. Thanks very much for checking this one out!

  • @MattWagner
    @MattWagner Год назад +5

    Thanks for the feedback. I'd be curious to hear about its field of view.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +2

      Hey thanks Wags for checking it out. Its a good improvement FOV wise over the Reverb G2, but not as wide as the Pimax8k, though tbh the clarity all the way across the lens in the Crystal makes it feel wider. I did feel on the ReverbG2 that the fov was a bit restrictive, for me the Crystal is just right. It feels natural and I dont come away from a DCS flight feeling restricted FOV wise at all.

  • @guylarochelle9793
    @guylarochelle9793 Год назад +9

    The problem with display ports is probably due to the fact that the helmet is like 2 displays by itself. So when you already have 3 monitors, adding 2 more with the headset is not supported for sure.

    • @jacobside2656
      @jacobside2656 Год назад

      Most GPU's can handle 4 monitors. So, adding the Crystal to your system is causing a total of 5 monitors. So yeah, no Bueno

  • @eane7238
    @eane7238 Год назад +4

    VR is so awesome, I have a older VIVE and have had a blast on it, it's a shame that the market for VR games is so small that most developers won't make games for it.

    • @ViniViVinsi
      @ViniViVinsi Год назад +3

      Did you hear about UEVR? A soon to be released mod by praydog that will make hundreds of UE4/UE5 games to work in VR, so you're going to have way more VR games available that you can ever play.

  • @channelvr1293
    @channelvr1293 Год назад +4

    The problem with not recognizing when having multiple screens is one i had with my Vive Pro and Vive Pro2 this with my 3090 and Yep also with my 4090 now as well. So i think its more a Nvidia problem then a HMD problem. Waiting for my Pimax . Have to say never been able to use my PRO2 to the max settings even with my 4090....
    BTW great video !!

  • @ThorNjord
    @ThorNjord Год назад +2

    Awesome review, one of the best ones I have seen. Thanks for taking the time to do it.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      My pleasure! Thanks so much for checking it out!

  • @nortonp3983
    @nortonp3983 Год назад +1

    This has been so reassuring that I have made the right move from my reverb g2. My main concern was my graphics card, which is an RTX 3080ti, so thank you so much for the reassurance and for your other informative vids on the pimax especially the settings- cheers.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      You're very welcome! We're stoked this video was helpful. You'll love the Crystal, it continues to provide that wow factor even weeks into using it everyday.

  • @Vortex31415
    @Vortex31415 Год назад +5

    Great preview! I've pre-ordered the Crystal specifically for DCS, and your video has given me a lot of confidence that it will be an excellent upgrade over the G2.
    Have you tried motion reprojection with the Crystal? I use motion reprojection with the G2 to make the frame times tolerable on a 3090, and I'm hoping the Crystal will have some form of motion reprojection as well. I would love to see you test motion reprojection or whatever similar technology is available from Pimax or through OpenXR Toolkit.
    Thanks again!

  • @poolhallshark
    @poolhallshark Год назад +1

    Thank you SO much for an absolutely excellent review on the Crystal. Very much appreciated. I see that Steve from VRFlightSimGuy was also very happy with your review.
    I've had the G2 for roughly 3 years now, and I'm really happy with it, but two days ago I got myself a RTX 4090, and around Xmas I will buy the Crystal as well. In the meantime I will be soaking up as much info as I possibly can about it, and this video was of invaluable help. I have definitely subbed to your channel! Ten thumbs up😁 Much love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much, I look up to guys like Steve, he does awesome work, so stoked we can help out the community a little bit too. :-)

  • @anthonymoloney3671
    @anthonymoloney3671 Год назад +1

    First time I've seen your content. Very informative and straight to the point. I've got an RTX 3090 so was curious how it might go with the Crystal (currently using a Pimax 8KX). Well done, you've earned a new subscriber.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thanks very much, stoked the video helped, and thanks heads for the sub too, it's very much appreciated!

  • @gibilator
    @gibilator Год назад +1

    This is brilliant, great information come at from a different angle, cheers for the video.

  • @nickg2691
    @nickg2691 Год назад +3

    I am very curious to see from a sim racer's perspective how it performs in the racing sims. I hear a lot of people concerned about the FOV being a big negative compared to a lower clarity but much wider FOV 8KX.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Will do! an iRacing vid then an Assetto one are both in the works

    • @MrNeilRoberts
      @MrNeilRoberts Год назад

      Automobilista 2 please 😀😀

  • @liebesmaennchen
    @liebesmaennchen Год назад +1

    Very nice Video! I´m also very happy with the Crystal. Also had no problems with it. Made two Videos about it with different PC´s.

  • @finndoessims3214
    @finndoessims3214 Год назад +2

    Excellent video! Organized, thoughtful, and well presented. Look forward to more!

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thank you kindly!

    • @finndoessims3214
      @finndoessims3214 Год назад

      @@player1simgear one more thing- VR video is rediculously hard to produce for flatscreen youtube. Your method is as good as any I've seen. I wish somebody would design a program that could 'stitch and adapt' the views of both lenses into a single panoramic and seamless image. Short of that happening, you either use the Steam Mirror for fs2020, or if in OpenXr, you use OBS or some other video editor to crop it to one eye. DCS does a great job of doing this for you. So don't fret or apologize, this video is fine. I sometimes just show both eyes' views on my videos if I'm able to record them at a high enough resolution to make both views clear. It's tricky!

  • @Boslandschap1
    @Boslandschap1 Год назад +1

    Absolutely great video, very informative 👍 Looking forward to hearing your subsequent observations. Very curious about your observations regarding the battery life and whether or not they charge in the headset via the USB-C connection and/or the regular USB connections. If possible, I'd be interested in hearing about FPS performance in various games, notably IL2-Sturmovik. Thanks for sharing your observations, much obliged 🙏

    • @farnley0941
      @farnley0941 Год назад

      Love to see a review in IL2 , no full reviews available for this amazing game , my Crystal is less than a week away

  • @StrIIker-TV
    @StrIIker-TV Год назад +1

    The nVidia cards limit the number of displays you can have active. I have run into this on my Varjo Aero in that I can’t have 3 displays plugged into the card when I want to use the aero.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thanks! Yeah good to know the cause at least!

  • @m0rph3u5.
    @m0rph3u5. Год назад +1

    Great review, short and to the point. You got a new subscriber my friend ;)
    I was thinking about upgrading my Index mainly for DCS since *VR is a one way ticket especially with helos*
    The Crystal is definitely the best available option for Flight sims ATM is reasonably priced (compared to Aero) with more to offer. However, with your remarks re: battery/comfort, I feel it is worthwhile waiting a bit longer to give *(1)* Pimax more time to improve future iterations *(2)* Valve more time to announce their next entry? Deckard *(3)* NVIDEA more time perhaps to release new GPU/reducing the 4080/4090 price 😅(to allow me to upgrade from 3080->4080/4090)

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much! All good calls. One thing though I would say, is the Crystal is epic as is, of course it will get better though too!

  • @pyroscot
    @pyroscot Год назад +1

    Same thing with the Aero. I have to disable one of the monitors.

  • @mostwanted2000
    @mostwanted2000 Год назад

    Thank you for the review. I have the 3080Ti too and I believe many others also. Please keep us posted about how to enable both a monitor (hdmi or dp) and the Crystal. TY!

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thanks for your comment! It seems it is a limitation with the GPU, not the Crystal - basically the nvidia cards cant handle too many monitors/displays. 2x monitors and the Crystal are fine, it's just when you add in a 3rd monitor it doesn't like it as it sees the crystal as 2 displays. It must though be related to the resolution of the Crystal as my card didnt have this problem with the ReverbG2. Stay tuned though, I will reach out to Nvidia and ask them their thoughts too.

    • @mostwanted2000
      @mostwanted2000 Год назад

      @@player1simgear thank you! Well then I can wait with no emotions my Crystal unit 😂 The girl form DiscoVR chanel has the 3090 and she had to mount a repeater on the DP cable in order for the headset to be seen by the card. Good, I'll follow your chanel for more content. Maybe you can demo HL Alyx to see the max framerate. But anything you post is fine. Cheers!

  • @ervmoore1111
    @ervmoore1111 Год назад +1

    Excellent info! Thanks much!!

  • @LuMo1980
    @LuMo1980 Год назад +1

    Thanks for your first impressions, the battery stiffness is worrisome if it dies during a race and you can't hotswap without letting go of the wheel. Hopefully they will loosen up and keep the charge for hours on.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Yeah I agree. I don't think given the design they will become a lot easier to do, certainly not with one hand mid race. I think we just need to remember to hot swap in a new battery before long races or we will see if the usb c charging option is workable as we get more testing in.

  • @boysen01
    @boysen01 Год назад

    Great video, thanks for putting it together and sharing. Please do a follow-up if any major firmware updates happen that you think are relevant for DCS. Also a 3-month usage review or similar would be cool. Another thing, how does it "feel" to do a 2-hour mission with that thing on, is it manageable ? Thanks again!

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Will do! I regularly do 2-4 hour missions and sim races with it, and it's awesome - I forget I am wearing it very quickly.

  • @Steadymobbin711
    @Steadymobbin711 Год назад +1

    Great video! Thank you and subbed!

  • @Ohm_Breaker
    @Ohm_Breaker Год назад +1

    Great review! How does the crystal feel weight and movement wise compared to the G2 in games that you move your head around somewhat fast paced?

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      It is def not as snug a fit around the face as the G2, so for a fast head-movement game I think you'd want it pretty tight on, as it does have more weight to it. It will be interesting to see the after-market straps and face gaskets that come out, i think they will improve that a lot.

    • @Ohm_Breaker
      @Ohm_Breaker Год назад

      Thank you!

  • @henryhancock6558
    @henryhancock6558 Год назад

    Can you please share your complete graphics setting for iRacing when you review and setup the Pimex Crystal?

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Will do - Iracing testing underway - spoiler.. it's amazing!

  • @adriantrise493
    @adriantrise493 Год назад +1

    Great video - thanks and new subscriber.

  • @LukeAventino1975
    @LukeAventino1975 Год назад +1

    Ugh, I am getting 3 frames per second in DCS MT on a 3080ti, MSFS runs fine at 48fps, I am missing something..

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Hmm that is odd! What settings do you have in DCS? In the VR tab in game too.

  • @Terrathrax
    @Terrathrax Год назад +1

    7:20: 45 fps? Not sure I would be happy with that...

  • @mr.x1406
    @mr.x1406 Год назад +1

    Hi, thanks for the review :) how much of a frame drop if any did you notice when the action starts? fast low level lots of AAA would like to get an idea of that.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      None at all actually, which was surprising. Though a lot of that is CPU and RAM dependent.

    • @mr.x1406
      @mr.x1406 Год назад

      @@player1simgear Thanks need to build a new PC.

  • @shd4618
    @shd4618 Год назад +1

    The scale vr offers is increadible.
    I find the sense of speed goes away in vr. Landing, carrier ops, helicopters seems as though everything passes by slowly. 2d always feels faster to me.

  • @sascenturion
    @sascenturion Год назад

    Great invormative video!
    Thanks 👍
    Would like to see your mfs2020 vids 😊

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Coming soon! Stay tuned! It's in the works! :-)

  • @ryanlucas7588
    @ryanlucas7588 Год назад +1

    Great review! I still have my pre-order with Pimax, but kind of wished I ordered with you instead. Are you expecting your customers to receive the first batch this month? Can't wait for you to review this with Assetto Corsa and Microsoft Flight sim - and know the exact resolution you run on those.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Working on it for Assetto - our MSFS settings vid is up ruclips.net/video/WQm1vn0L_Dk/видео.html

  • @eane7238
    @eane7238 Год назад +1

    Good video, only thing I'd consider changing is adding some quiet background music for some parts of the video.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      You sir are a star. :-) Check out the new vid we just launched - I owe you a beer for a great suggestion!

  • @AccuracyGaming
    @AccuracyGaming Год назад

    I have same issue with my Samsung g8 4k 240hz just have to disconnect one of my other triple 1440p

  • @Lifeguruonafence
    @Lifeguruonafence Год назад +1

    I don’t see why the batteries need to be on the headset, would it be better to have them mounted at the end of a cable following the usb cable so down on the floor

    • @JamesTyranski
      @JamesTyranski Год назад +2

      part of the reason they are on the back of the headset is weight distribution. So even if you had them mounted at the end of a cable, you'd want something in place for weight balance so it doesn't feel so front heavy.

    • @Lifeguruonafence
      @Lifeguruonafence Год назад +2

      @@JamesTyranski okay makes sense 👍

  • @stuart3712
    @stuart3712 Год назад

    I had the G2 and ran with with my old 1080ti and it ran every game just fine besides sims which i know req's more power but i dont sim so.. meh.. i got the 3080ti also now and i would be tumb if the same games run the same or a little better.

  • @enggood5097
    @enggood5097 Год назад

    Hi, how is the FOV in DCS? I got Quest 2 and it's like looking through a pipe! Thanks for the great review.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Much better, and more so the clarity is all across the lens, so the improved fov feels even wider.

  • @ViniViVinsi
    @ViniViVinsi Год назад

    Great vid!

  • @WhereNerdyisCool
    @WhereNerdyisCool Год назад

    I am very curious how this performs with a 4090. I recently upgraded to a new computer, leaving a 3070 game rig to a fully loaded 4090 one. My Reverb cable recently failed and a replacement is on the way. However, I have been wondering if it might be a hint to upgrade to a newer headset too

  • @gaminginstilllife9429
    @gaminginstilllife9429 3 месяца назад +1

    I bought a pimax Crystal Light I have a 5800 x3d and a 4080 super when I first bought my Crystal Light I had a 4070 super which I must warn people is definitely not enough for VR at least not to get decent benefits out of the Timex Crystal Light so be warned

  • @vyacheslav_potapenko
    @vyacheslav_potapenko Год назад +1

    do you have glass or plastic lenses? thx

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      Hi there. This unit has the plastic lenses, the glass ones are being shipped out. I'll update with a comparison video when they land.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Год назад +3

      @@player1simgear People complaining about having resin lenses, but doesn't that mean you just got free extra lenses? And the resin ones are much lighter ones, glass is quite heavy. So it might not be a bad thing to have spare set of resin lenses.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад +1

      @@Nobody-Nowhere yeah it will be interesting to compare, I mean it looks amazing with the resin/plastic lenses now, any improvement is of course welcome but these look great as they are!

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Год назад +4

      @@player1simgear Glass will improve it, glass is always superior to any resin lens.. glass has higher refractive index, that means less chromatic aberrations. And even if you don't see chromatic aberrations, they are always there.. the better the R/G/B light are focused at one spot, the sharper the image will be.
      They really went all in this by producing glass lenses, no other company has done this. People don't really get the expense and difficulty of producing glass lenses. Resin lenses are made from UV curable resins.. a machine can just pump them out. They cost next to nothing. Glass needs to be grind down to a lens from a block of optical grade glass that first need to be manufactured to tight tolerances.

  • @jeffsandford6464
    @jeffsandford6464 Год назад +1

    I really am envious of people that can use these headsets without being violently ill 🤮

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      The headset does make a big difference, we may need to get you one to try out Jeff!

  • @tommagiatzis5862
    @tommagiatzis5862 Год назад

    When one has a vr headset, one must play Half Life Alyx. Have you done so? If so, what is it like with the Crystal. I know you’re a sim guy but Alyx must be experienced by all who have vr.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      I need to try Alyx! It's on my to do list for sure!

  • @Gorilla_Jones
    @Gorilla_Jones Год назад

    What is the horizontal FOV?

  • @claybomb1064
    @claybomb1064 Год назад +1

    👍

  • @zaelu
    @zaelu Год назад +1

    This is not that big... rofl... Compared with what? With the TV screen on the wall?
    I didn't watched everything... is he saying that he is paid by Pimax or has any form compensation from them for this review?

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thanks Zaelu, no we arent paid by Pimax or anything like that, we purchased our unit ourselves. The Crystal is big, don't get me wrong, but when seated in a sim it doesn't feel big when wearing it if that makes sense? Of course if you have a smaller head than I do that may be different for you! Overall though it's a very well balanced headset.

    • @zaelu
      @zaelu Год назад

      @@player1simgear After going from Rift to Quest 2 and then to Pico4 and always feeling the need for lighter and more ergonomically headset I am baffled to see people still giving some credit to this company called Pimax. I am no Chinese tech hater. On the contrary, I love Pico4 but Pimax looks really bad to me and if this is th future of VR... it's bad.
      The easiest tell tale to me is the shape of the headset... not necessarily the size. No reviewer of them ever talked about the crazy stupid light path it has. Look from top to bottom. Imagine you actually have a screen pixel at the most lateral extremity of the headset. Imagine the light path of that pixel to your eyes. Do you imagine the geometric distortion and chromatic aberration it suffers especially since it has only a cheap lens in the way and not some 16 pieces like a DSLR? And why? Cristal is not even bragging anymore with the silly 220° FOV. It doesn't even have the bad wide lenses anymore. And we can tell for sure there are no pixels (useful at least) on the edges of the headset. Then why this stupid hammer shark shape? Did they ever seen the Beyond headset? Didn't they felt a little ashamed? After all this years Pimhoax for me looks nothing but an on going hype scam and reviewers keep pushing it by half clear statements. Maybe is heavy, maybe it has distortions... maybe its incomplete and needs extra hardware and more money...
      You should stop pushing up hill failed tech. let it die.

  • @GreggRoberts
    @GreggRoberts Год назад

    I hope they will be made publicly available soon. I also hope that AMD fixes their drivers because pimax is bricked until they are fixed. I'm forced to use a 4090 and the 7900xtx is sitting in the box on the closet.

  • @carlhil2
    @carlhil2 Год назад

    No way am I putting something that huge on my face...

  • @stevebobowski3507
    @stevebobowski3507 Год назад

    Nvidia display driver issue. Pimax wont be able to fix this. Nvidia has to so goodluck with that anytime soon.

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Thanks yeah it's a shame, good to know though what the cause it, its an easy enough work around as fortunately the back of my pc is easy to get to. I'll look into some DP or HDMI switch options for people who have less accessible ports!

  • @billh308
    @billh308 Год назад

    Screen grab is 100% useless for capturing the clarity, it's no different than a 2D monitor output. There is no way to show the clarity, VR has to be experienced

    • @player1simgear
      @player1simgear  Год назад

      Yep for sure, it is helpful for showing the settings used, but otherwise I agree, VR is 100% about the experience.

  • @johnambers
    @johnambers Год назад

    Good review. I am wondering if Apple's killer product will be Steam compatible? I dont see why it couldn't. Even if it takes third-party software to do it.

  • @heila348
    @heila348 Год назад +1

    great start and much appreciated... now how about a video showing how it actually performs and maybe some settings you are using.

  • @theack777
    @theack777 Год назад

    very disappointed after reading the title of this video that says DCS World reverbG2 comparison I expected to see FPS comparisons in DCS because I have a 3080 as well and wanted to see if its worth it for me to see if i will get good enough FPS to play DCS well. You should change the title.

  • @FOX111975
    @FOX111975 Год назад +2

    How do I get one for a reasonable cost??!!

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Год назад +3

      Wait until they start hitting the used markets. There will be set of people who will unload them immediately.