Likewise. Contraption may only have been one-time use, but they made you feel like a genius, and I personally could spend hours building, using, rebuilding, and reusing them.
I remember many many years ago playing an incredible and vast prison escape adventure map on PE before redstone. The map used two stone slabs as immovable door barriers, and you had to find sand to unlock doors and progress. One of the coolest maps ever. Anyone else remember it?
YES I do! I remember getting maps from a secondary app on the playstore. I remember a map like what you're describing, very vaguely. As well as a zombie apocalypse map with doors, and a parkour adventure prison escape map that seemed impossible to me at the time.
I vaguely remember it lol. There’s another one about Herobrine. It’s like a hell map and mod combo where you walk through obstacles until you reach a large place where you fight him.
This video made me feel old lol, the door especially with the sand placing "interface" gave me so much nostalgia. I remember before beta 1.7 when this was all we had, I still can't believe that was over a decade ago now. It's funny now, seeing it get rediscovered like this.
There is one redstone alternative I have found to be really useful for extremely cheap farm designs. You can use a mix of pressure plates, fences, and other wood blocks along with water and boats to create repeating clocks without any redstone. I have spent many hours designing a bunch of different clock designs using this.
Back then in the pocket edition, there were redstone but you can't place them however was used for crafting like a powered rails (which doesn't require to be powered back then)
It was used a lot when Minecraft pocket edition was around. for a long while, you couldn't place or use redstone as you could in java, so you had to get creative to try and make some circuit. it was inconvenient, but it was fun
I'm wondering if any of these mechanisms can be auto-resetting? Rather than just oneshot mechanisms. They are still useful for traps and challenge maps, but not for automating daily life.
No, it's like building a domino track. Once they fall over, they don't stand right back up. The only one i can think of that would be semi-automatic is the water/lava update thing, but in order to completely automate must use... Redstone.
I'm looking into a possibility with an armor stand wearing frost walker boots. Getting the armor stand to move around by pushing it with water is hard, though. And then you could have a cactus that randomly grows, then is cut shorter by water next to it turning to ice.
Absolute throwback to the good old mcpe days, especially with maps that when an action is done w/ the cactus would bring down a massive sand wall. My goodness, the nostalgia is flowing, im gonna watch an old jackfrostminer video now
I remember almost all the Minecraft PE maps I played with my cousins had non-redstone redstone. Once I even played a death run map that consisted solely on these types of mechanisms. And that's when I realized how useful signs were
Good shit. I feel modern Minecraft has lost lot of the experience because you dont see things like this often anymore whereas this kind of ingenuity was the norm previously
@@macesith Well that's typically referred to as "1 tick" in redstone, since 2 ticks (1/10th of a second) is the standard for redstone components Obviously people have found ways to cut it shorter than this, but idk if anyone's actually used true 1 and 0 tick devices as actual components in a circuit rather than the final product itself
I once tried building Redstone devices without using most of the components. The specific list of banned items was determined by the banned items on a Mr. Beast build battle server from several years ago, as it actually still allowed lamps, doors, comparators, repeaters, redstone blocks, buttons, levers, and item frames to work. Things that it DISALLOWED placing include redstone dust, torches, observers, pistons, dispensers and droppers, and water did not flow and was not able to turn into bubble columns. Despite this, while following all the restrictions, I was able to make a base 10 number input that would use comparators to send values down the line with signal strength, which would then save into a redstone RAM lock and convert the signal strength in memory into a 7 segment display built with lamps, and used a counter to determine which digit was being saved into, meaning up to 16 digits were possible to store and display at once, with a clear memory button of course. I’m also convinced that an adder circuit would have been possible to make. Having said all this, there’s some things to clarify. 1) The available components do not allow signals to be sent up or downwards, so everything was made flat on the ground, with the display facing up. 2) I did not build this in the time available, it was actually designed after the build battle on a super flat world, but followed all the required restrictions.
I use water currents, pressure plates, boats and trapdoors and tripwire hooks to make circuits in my Skyblock worlds (before making a witch farm and getting redstone), all wood based and "redstone complete" It has the advantage of not needing a manual reset, like the sings. But I can see usage for signs, I'll totally add that to my "woodstone" toolbox (redwood?)
My favourite that you didn’t mention are stone walls. When you have a block next to a tower of stone walls and then move it, every wall in the column updates instantly, which can be used with observers. It’s instant vertical redstone!
I love the irony of using redstone in its one form where it doesn't act like redstone. Also just the fact that redstone ore glows like that has always been cool to me, especially because it's mostly pointless
I have a world that there is no redstone in, so some of these could be cool to use. However, the contraptions always seems to be single-use, with the possible exception of the water/lava. Are there any other redstone-free processes that can be activated more than once?
When someone gonna make a analog calculator in Minecraft? I remember using boats as BUD switches way back, this vid was a nice throwback to people needing to think outside the box just to engineer a 3x3 piston door with no pressure plate
This is really cool. I would love a follow up on this which focuses specifically on reusable redstone alternatives, i.e ones that don’t require the player to reset them like with signs.
I used to make logic gates with this in pocket edition. i would make a health bar like in those boss battle custom maps, but made with these components. I made it so it doesn't matter in what order you break the tower of signs, it always removes the first point first. i used to try to make them as small as possible, like with redstone contraptions. i had a lot of time to kill anyway. good times.
This is literally mcpe redstone before they added redstone. Man, good memories. I remember those old custom maps where people make you break something to get some signs broken to get to the next stage.
Hey I don't know if you read this comment but I think the traps can be very effective especially on anarchy servers. Especially because everyone there runs around with hacks and notices traps with redstones through X-Ray etc immediately
A random mechanic I think about that can trigger a random number generator and redstone signal is “Sheep-stone.” Basically when a sheep will eat grass. I recently learned “Ravager-stone,” there’s a video on it, you use Ravagers to break blocks basically and that has its uses alone.
6:43 If you're allowing powered rails, which actually use redstone in their crafting recipe, you should be able to use levers to power the rails, since levers are just cobblestone and a stick
This was really cool. I wonder how you could reset it and have combinational logic implemented. I know at the end you showed a potential idea for an AND gate but id love to see more.
for an and gate just have water flow through a tube and block it with two sand blocks with signs underneath. when you break one sign the water is still blocked by the other sand. for an or gate just have a torch in the middle with sand on two sides and water beside that. that way you can drop either sand to break the torch.
dude i used to think activating redstone ore sent a redstone signal from a map i saw once and i’ve always wondered how it worked since, thanks for finally clearing that up for me
oh my lord this takes me back, i remember playing some sick PE maps in my youth that used this, the crappier ones would fill your inventory with signs haha
I remember playing maps on PE version that were powered by sign and sand mechanisms. Also the funny thing is that we had iron dors in one version but didn't have the redstone to open them
Now i want to replace all the redstone mechanics in jungle temples and desert pyramids with these. It makes it feel like these traps predate modern technology
For even better components, mix the two concepts of Redstone and redstoneless contraptions For example, the first thing showcased here is an infinite "redstone" line, the video uses Signs for the horizontal line, which when compared with Redstone, it's a lot faster since you dont need Repeaters to do this, however, if we mix the two concepts, we get a new mechanism, for example, using Sticky Pistons to update Leaves by pushing a Log towards the Leaves, and having an Observer check for the change, this now also works vertically, in a diagonal, and in many directions, plus, its MUCH better to avoid lag
I mean it is kinda obvious but I‘m still suprised how you didn‘t mention a single time that these alternatives have the downside (at least in survival) that they can only be used once unlike normal redstone.
Now MumboJumbo found how to use the creaking to have player vision triggered effects! They sink in water when observed! Barrels and shulker boxes do block updates, it is just weird that chests and especially trapped chests don't.
The only problem I see with these is that none are repeatable. Every time you use these you have to manually set them back up. Sure, if you intend for something to be single use these are great, but I don't think anyone wants to set up 20 signs again every time they use their door. I may find use for some of these mixed with redstone. Something you might find interesting and perhaps be able to find a use for, tnt minecarts are more volatile that just tnt, when activated they blow up immediately as opposed to tnt blocks which have a delay.
If not for the fact it’s one-use I think ‘signstone’ would be useful, put an observer at the end with a zero-tick repeater and you have a cheap infinite redstone line
Well when this was at it's peak, the actual alternative was nothing at all since just about all modern redstone functionality simply didn't exist on MCPE.
@Jay1717_ That’s super neat! I already know most/if not all contraptions need manually reset though so its going to be difficult making it easily resettable - I am sure there’s a way though
@@ksauceyt it's fine for single use calculator and that's what I am aiming for and not for reset, do you know a way to convert binary to normal numbers?
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I remember using these contraptions in Minecraft PE before redstone could be placed
All my homies play mcpe 🤝
@@ksauceyt 🤝
Likewise. Contraption may only have been one-time use, but they made you feel like a genius, and I personally could spend hours building, using, rebuilding, and reusing them.
Ya
Bro same. I made the craziest sand-activated sign traps.
Java players will never remember the pain of having use a touch screen to make a mob grinder IN a ocean because we didnt have buckets back then
Thats very basically why i play java.
As someone who played Minecraft classic, at least water flowed and didn't consume the world like some damp grey goo.
good times!
Pocket edition was a joke tbh.
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I remember many many years ago playing an incredible and vast prison escape adventure map on PE before redstone. The map used two stone slabs as immovable door barriers, and you had to find sand to unlock doors and progress. One of the coolest maps ever. Anyone else remember it?
YES I do! I remember getting maps from a secondary app on the playstore. I remember a map like what you're describing, very vaguely. As well as a zombie apocalypse map with doors, and a parkour adventure prison escape map that seemed impossible to me at the time.
WAIT I REMEMBER THIS ONE OMG
I vaguely remember it lol. There’s another one about Herobrine. It’s like a hell map and mod combo where you walk through obstacles until you reach a large place where you fight him.
the story was so peak too I think there were like 4 sequels
This video made me feel old lol, the door especially with the sand placing "interface" gave me so much nostalgia. I remember before beta 1.7 when this was all we had, I still can't believe that was over a decade ago now. It's funny now, seeing it get rediscovered like this.
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Same i waa the first person to ever play minecraft in 1996
'who dosen't like a rube golburg machine' probalbly that villager that was killed by one
There is one redstone alternative I have found to be really useful for extremely cheap farm designs. You can use a mix of pressure plates, fences, and other wood blocks along with water and boats to create repeating clocks without any redstone. I have spent many hours designing a bunch of different clock designs using this.
when the wood at 5:08 actually would never burn with that setup
Yeah it’s fireproof, not sure if it was intentional or not but we all understood the point still.
That's why you'll never know when it burns
>Minecraft redstone alternatives
>look inside
>5:27
Bro 💀
Back then in the pocket edition, there were redstone but you can't place them however was used for crafting like a powered rails (which doesn't require to be powered back then)
The main issue with these is that they need to be set up for each single use, limiting what you can use them for.
It was used a lot when Minecraft pocket edition was around. for a long while, you couldn't place or use redstone as you could in java, so you had to get creative to try and make some circuit. it was inconvenient, but it was fun
@@Camerz ok but who plays PE? other than ipad kids
Edit: I guess Im old and ipad kids are now ipad teens. damn.
@@uvbe pocket edition hasnt existed for years
@@uvbe Top three comments are reminiscing about PE, time for the retirement home old man
@@uvbenah bro, im a whole ass ipad adult now (though never used tablets bc oh god no)
Chests dont activate block updates, thats what trapped chests are for
The OG pocket edition players know this too well. I remember experimenting with all kinds of mechanics way back in 2012 😂
In part 2, u should include strings, they work the same as the redstone ore, except for the "button" function
Back then during the 2012 pocket edition times, map creators used signs and gravity blocks to create adventure / puzzle maps.
Actually such a cool video...really gave that '2010 Minecraft' vibe
I'd love to see a version of this that resets itself, maybe not immediately. Like you use parts that regrow so after a while the mechanism works again
i like your profile picture :D
maybe a sugarcane farm
This is so nostalgic! I remember building these kinds of contraptions before Redstone was added to Pocket Edition.
Now that is some quality content, I'm glad to be here at 1k subscribers and glad to stay until your first million!
I hope so too! Thanks for the kind words
I'm wondering if any of these mechanisms can be auto-resetting? Rather than just oneshot mechanisms.
They are still useful for traps and challenge maps, but not for automating daily life.
No, it's like building a domino track. Once they fall over, they don't stand right back up. The only one i can think of that would be semi-automatic is the water/lava update thing, but in order to completely automate must use... Redstone.
I'm looking into a possibility with an armor stand wearing frost walker boots. Getting the armor stand to move around by pushing it with water is hard, though.
And then you could have a cactus that randomly grows, then is cut shorter by water next to it turning to ice.
The player can move an armor stand with a fishing rod. I'm not sure if other entities can move armor stands.
Absolute throwback to the good old mcpe days, especially with maps that when an action is done w/ the cactus would bring down a massive sand wall.
My goodness, the nostalgia is flowing, im gonna watch an old jackfrostminer video now
That man was my childhood haha
I remember almost all the Minecraft PE maps I played with my cousins had non-redstone redstone. Once I even played a death run map that consisted solely on these types of mechanisms. And that's when I realized how useful signs were
Don’t forget still water/lava blocks
This is the type of red stone we'd be using back in early Minecraft Pocket Edition
please make a part 2, this was great
Takes me back to the days of PE before they added Redstone, didn't even realize I was nostalgic for those old tutorial videos
Good shit. I feel modern Minecraft has lost lot of the experience because you dont see things like this often anymore whereas this kind of ingenuity was the norm previously
Counter argument to the first point, we can have a line of observers infinitely
You can also use repeaters
Each observer adds two tics of delay
just use scaffolding for 1 tick offset, which is repeatable
@@macesith Well that's typically referred to as "1 tick" in redstone, since 2 ticks (1/10th of a second) is the standard for redstone components
Obviously people have found ways to cut it shorter than this, but idk if anyone's actually used true 1 and 0 tick devices as actual components in a circuit rather than the final product itself
@@brendonw456its called 1 game tick not 1 true tick
Nice! Reminds of when I tried to make my own sorting system using only minecarts, rails and water, which combo suprisingly well.
Criminally underrated video, hope this blows up ❤
I once tried building Redstone devices without using most of the components. The specific list of banned items was determined by the banned items on a Mr. Beast build battle server from several years ago, as it actually still allowed lamps, doors, comparators, repeaters, redstone blocks, buttons, levers, and item frames to work.
Things that it DISALLOWED placing include redstone dust, torches, observers, pistons, dispensers and droppers, and water did not flow and was not able to turn into bubble columns.
Despite this, while following all the restrictions, I was able to make a base 10 number input that would use comparators to send values down the line with signal strength, which would then save into a redstone RAM lock and convert the signal strength in memory into a 7 segment display built with lamps, and used a counter to determine which digit was being saved into, meaning up to 16 digits were possible to store and display at once, with a clear memory button of course. I’m also convinced that an adder circuit would have been possible to make.
Having said all this, there’s some things to clarify. 1) The available components do not allow signals to be sent up or downwards, so everything was made flat on the ground, with the display facing up. 2) I did not build this in the time available, it was actually designed after the build battle on a super flat world, but followed all the required restrictions.
I use water currents, pressure plates, boats and trapdoors and tripwire hooks to make circuits in my Skyblock worlds (before making a witch farm and getting redstone), all wood based and "redstone complete"
It has the advantage of not needing a manual reset, like the sings.
But I can see usage for signs, I'll totally add that to my "woodstone" toolbox (redwood?)
My favourite that you didn’t mention are stone walls. When you have a block next to a tower of stone walls and then move it, every wall in the column updates instantly, which can be used with observers. It’s instant vertical redstone!
2:33 Never tested it, but can hanging signs be attached to those?
Okay! Got the answer right away haha
Amazing Video! I will use that for early game traps and fun shenanigans in later things along the line.
Great job!
I love the irony of using redstone in its one form where it doesn't act like redstone. Also just the fact that redstone ore glows like that has always been cool to me, especially because it's mostly pointless
one of the coolest videos ive been recommended.
Thank you for your kind words, means a lot chiggyiggy7 😼
You know this guy edits in his own videos because his editors note was his actual voice and not onscreen text. Kudos
I have a world that there is no redstone in, so some of these could be cool to use. However, the contraptions always seems to be single-use, with the possible exception of the water/lava. Are there any other redstone-free processes that can be activated more than once?
This was great. Cant wait for part two
This is really cool, hope this blows up
When someone gonna make a analog calculator in Minecraft? I remember using boats as BUD switches way back, this vid was a nice throwback to people needing to think outside the box just to engineer a 3x3 piston door with no pressure plate
This is really cool. I would love a follow up on this which focuses specifically on reusable redstone alternatives, i.e ones that don’t require the player to reset them like with signs.
I was just about to say that this feels like a video that squibble would make. Then I saw the ending lol. Anyway cool video
I used to make logic gates with this in pocket edition. i would make a health bar like in those boss battle custom maps, but made with these components. I made it so it doesn't matter in what order you break the tower of signs, it always removes the first point first. i used to try to make them as small as possible, like with redstone contraptions. i had a lot of time to kill anyway. good times.
This is literally mcpe redstone before they added redstone. Man, good memories. I remember those old custom maps where people make you break something to get some signs broken to get to the next stage.
the sugercane updating stuff lets you build a very simple AMD Gate too
the thumbnail is straight up diabolical
What I like about all that, is it's effectively the analog to Redstone's digital.
this is amazing, i totally forgot about these tricks i used to make adventure maps on xbox 360 and PE
Hey I don't know if you read this comment but I think the traps can be very effective especially on anarchy servers. Especially because everyone there runs around with hacks and notices traps with redstones through X-Ray etc immediately
Ah, the redstone ore detector. A true classic.
Great video! I would love to see a part 2!
mcpe memories, still remember playing puzzel maps with these mechanics, the simpler times mannn
A random mechanic I think about that can trigger a random number generator and redstone signal is “Sheep-stone.” Basically when a sheep will eat grass.
I recently learned “Ravager-stone,” there’s a video on it, you use Ravagers to break blocks basically and that has its uses alone.
I did some very basic animations with signs and sand, lol.
5:32 I used the redstones to destroy the redstones
Your shader looks nice, especially the night sky. What mods do you use for that?
Pretty sure the only shader pack I used was Complementary Shaders. There is a setting that turns on auroras and that is what you see in the vid
6:43 If you're allowing powered rails, which actually use redstone in their crafting recipe, you should be able to use levers to power the rails, since levers are just cobblestone and a stick
This was really cool.
I wonder how you could reset it and have combinational logic implemented. I know at the end you showed a potential idea for an AND gate but id love to see more.
for an and gate just have water flow through a tube and block it with two sand blocks with signs underneath. when you break one sign the water is still blocked by the other sand. for an or gate just have a torch in the middle with sand on two sides and water beside that. that way you can drop either sand to break the torch.
Awesome video, despite 720p30fps 😔
Which mods/shaders did you use?
These are more like domino contraptions. You still have to tediously set up the dominos again to get the same results.
dude i used to think activating redstone ore sent a redstone signal from a map i saw once and i’ve always wondered how it worked since, thanks for finally clearing that up for me
Anytime brother 😼
reminder that furnace minecarts exist
I guess for java? I don't remember it existing in early mcpe.
essential rules of any function: it starts with simple things being combined with each other to form a complex thing
incredibly good work
This is really interesting especially because i play lots of structureless superflat so I don't get the stone part of redstone
I remember a series of prison escape maps, were you behind them?
I wish haha, I watched other youtubers play them growing up before I even started playing myself
oh my lord this takes me back, i remember playing some sick PE maps in my youth that used this, the crappier ones would fill your inventory with signs haha
Cool video idea I hope to see a part 2
I remember playing maps on PE version that were powered by sign and sand mechanisms.
Also the funny thing is that we had iron dors in one version but didn't have the redstone to open them
Now i want to replace all the redstone mechanics in jungle temples and desert pyramids with these. It makes it feel like these traps predate modern technology
PART 2 NOW!!!
I think this might actualy be usefull for early game traps
Dang I never thought of that, I wonder if it would me quicker than a normal redstone trap on hoplite or similar gamemodes
This is amazing, i used to use these in MCPE
For even better components, mix the two concepts of Redstone and redstoneless contraptions
For example, the first thing showcased here is an infinite "redstone" line, the video uses Signs for the horizontal line, which when compared with Redstone, it's a lot faster since you dont need Repeaters to do this, however, if we mix the two concepts, we get a new mechanism, for example, using Sticky Pistons to update Leaves by pushing a Log towards the Leaves, and having an Observer check for the change, this now also works vertically, in a diagonal, and in many directions, plus, its MUCH better to avoid lag
Gross and fake profile pic
Broooo. I remember mastering this on pocket edition version 0.10
I hope to see some of these in the next Life series by Grian :D
I mean it is kinda obvious but I‘m still suprised how you didn‘t mention a single time that these alternatives have the downside (at least in survival) that they can only be used once unlike normal redstone.
My video stoped playing when he turned the lever off. Bro depowered my internet.
idk who else will get this but this feels like the assembly version of redstone
Now MumboJumbo found how to use the creaking to have player vision triggered effects! They sink in water when observed!
Barrels and shulker boxes do block updates, it is just weird that chests and especially trapped chests don't.
this was literally pocket edition redstone before redstone was added lol
The only problem I see with these is that none are repeatable. Every time you use these you have to manually set them back up. Sure, if you intend for something to be single use these are great, but I don't think anyone wants to set up 20 signs again every time they use their door. I may find use for some of these mixed with redstone. Something you might find interesting and perhaps be able to find a use for, tnt minecarts are more volatile that just tnt, when activated they blow up immediately as opposed to tnt blocks which have a delay.
If not for the fact it’s one-use I think ‘signstone’ would be useful, put an observer at the end with a zero-tick repeater and you have a cheap infinite redstone line
MCPE OG checking in
theres an ooold PE map that made a WORKING CALCULATOR out of this exact tech. it was as slow as youd expect
Ahh the days before i had Java or even redstone in MCPE cactus sand doors
missed opportunity not calling it the agricultural revolution
When looking for an alternative to redstone, “single-use” isn’t what comes to mind
Well when this was at it's peak, the actual alternative was nothing at all since just about all modern redstone functionality simply didn't exist on MCPE.
You dont need powered rails to push a minecart, the old alpha cart boosters still work, just not as well they as they used to.
Part two better include using Creaking in the redstone. Mumbo just did a video using psychic redstone on it
Is that an AND gate at the end?
Computation Redstone without redstone might be possible
Also it's possible
I found a way to make an XOR gate and converting numbers in binary is easy but converting back to normal is hard
@Jay1717_ That’s super neat! I already know most/if not all contraptions need manually reset though so its going to be difficult making it easily resettable - I am sure there’s a way though
@@ksauceyt it's fine for single use calculator and that's what I am aiming for and not for reset, do you know a way to convert binary to normal numbers?
Also part 2 soon pls
Somebody already made a redstone computer without redstone, just with water and armorstands.
do part 2 NOWWWWWW
Forgot the classic boat clock using a water stream and pressure plate
PLEASE MAKE A PART 2!!!
I remember making traps to troll my friends in lan worlds using sheep, water, carpet and signs
Good times
Please make that part 2!!
Im a CS major and this is still easier to understand than redstone
lego rube goldberg machines could be sooo cool to watch
who’s ready for the minecraft redstoneless in-game computer?
That dude loves pain even more we thought. If you gonna listen slosely you can hear high heels.
Live with that knowledge.
i see you teasing leafstone :3
I know this is an old video, but what about trap chests when it comes to updating sugar cane?