Do pickup covers affect tone?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Humbucker cover tone. Do humbucker covers affect tone? Nickel vs brass vs none. I compare all three and we remove as mnay variables a possible then compare the sounds and use a spectrum analyser.
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    0:00 Introduction and the experiment
    1:32 How it sounds with and without humbucker covers
    2:08 some thoughts on the sounds
    3:25 More sounds including spectrum analyser
    4:43 Conclusion
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Комментарии • 52

  • @RobChappers
    @RobChappers 2 года назад +21

    Without cover sounded brighter

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  2 года назад +2

      Definitely

    • @thebushwizard176
      @thebushwizard176 Год назад +7

      No one asked rob

    • @dantat5713
      @dantat5713 Год назад +1

      @@thebushwizard176 considering you watched the video you probably did

    • @thebushwizard176
      @thebushwizard176 Год назад +4

      @@dantat5713 I didn’t ask rob

    • @Log-On-Line
      @Log-On-Line 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thebushwizard176 your comment made me ball out laughing

  • @Eric_01
    @Eric_01 Год назад +3

    I've watched a couple of videos on this subject now and in every case I can barely tell the difference until the side-by-side comparisons are edited together. At that point, I can tell subtle changes, but it's hard to judge good from bad. I do hear the darkness in the brass. That's for certain and that's a new revelation for me. I have a number of Epi's and I think I have something to address with them now. It's such a subtle change, but everything is. Ten subtle changes can add up to a big difference. That's the geeky fun of it, right? Nice presentation on this, BTW.

  • @QXZJX
    @QXZJX 7 месяцев назад

    Great video ❤

  • @collincassady01
    @collincassady01 Год назад

    Great Video great Idea thumbs Up

  • @yetigoosecreature8682
    @yetigoosecreature8682 2 года назад

    Interesting stuff. Open humbuckers for me. :) Although I'm tempted by the Epiphone SG with ProBucker (18% Nickel Silver).

  • @oldasrocks9121
    @oldasrocks9121 11 месяцев назад +3

    You may have been hearing wolf tones on your SG, drop the pickup little by little, if the phasey sound stops it was wolf tones.
    The physics of the cover/no cover thing centers around induced eddy currents, magnetic flux and the shape of the magnetic field. Short version: no cover = no eddy currents squelching HF.
    Brass bottom plates can sound different from nickel plates as well.
    Pulling plated brass covers and switching brass bottom plates to nickel is the cheapest way to change the tone of budget guitar pickups. $7 per at Mojotone, get the right size plate.
    JPage pulled the bridge cover on his 59LP #2, left the neck cover on. Makes sense.
    Some boutique winders will spec their own nickel covers to be as transparent as possible, thickness is a factor. On the street just get raw unplated nickel if you want to change or install covers on bare ones.
    Strats have another metallurgy tone conundrum: the trem block. Zinc is the worst, steel is the upgrade from zinc or brass. Zinc is "gummy", brass is dark and smeary, steel is it. The 50's/60's tone obsessives will say a 280 gram trem block is the gold at the end of the rainbow. Most of the 40mm tall Musiclilly replacement blocks are close to 280g. Amazing and clearly audible upgrade for cheapo trem bridges. It was like I had washed both sides of the windows on both my Jet and Firefly Strats, really amazing.
    Then, Strat-way, you can move on to the trem spring debate (but the consensus is all 5 Raw Vintage brand springs on a trad 6 point bridge with a steel block and Highwood saddles and you can thereafter start to call yourself Jimmy...)

  • @russianigkadude
    @russianigkadude 2 года назад +1

    I find that it's good to have a guitar that you enjoy playing without humbucker covers and a different guitar you enjoy playing with humbucker covers so you get different tones with guitars you enjoy playing

  • @LanceJordan
    @LanceJordan Год назад

    Very cool! I actually don't mind the brass and in fact, out of the three, it seemed to have the best hum cancellation! Might be just the thing for my overly bright Pearly Gates without covers! However, Nickel is still probably the right way to go. Very cool demo and thanks for making it. I might have suggested that you ground yourself to the bridge at least next time to avoid excess hum!

  • @basarat
    @basarat 2 года назад +2

    Too subtle a difference for me 🌹 That said I’m scared of covers eating my tone. The nickel seems to preserve it ❤️

  • @scottbrower9052
    @scottbrower9052 2 года назад +1

    My new (old) 2011 SG arrives tomorrow. It's a faded model, w/ uncovered pick-ups. I plan to cover them so your video is perfectly timed for me. As an aside, you are ruthlessly neutral & as scientific as possible in your videos. More creators in the guitar/music space should adopt your approach. Cheers ✌

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  2 года назад

      Thanks so much mate. That’s how I plan to remain even if I’m offered a free product or sponsorship, my plan is to remain completely honest.

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 2 года назад

      Funny, I have an SG Standard, also from 2011, and I want to remove my covers :D Hope you have fund with yours!

    • @scottbrower9052
      @scottbrower9052 2 года назад

      @@mrcoatsworth429 Nah, I was just curious. I like the look both with & without.

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 2 года назад

      @@scottbrower9052 did you leave them uncovered then? I might remove my covers because I want a slightly brighter sound.

    • @scottbrower9052
      @scottbrower9052 2 года назад

      @@mrcoatsworth429 Yes, I stayed uncovered.

  • @kocherpm
    @kocherpm Месяц назад

    I love the hacked out guitar body.

  • @barbsfpv3066
    @barbsfpv3066 Год назад +2

    If you didn’t ground the covers that could explain that different resonant tone you heard between brass and nickel. Usually the covers are soldered to the bottom plate to dissipate any eddy currents. Great comparison though, it was very helpful.

  • @Cameron9788
    @Cameron9788 2 года назад +1

    Nickel definitely sounds the nicest. I wonder if it has anything to do with brass not being magnetic but nickel is? No idea haha. Great test mate!. That's one hefty cavity you've cut out! 😂😂 The pick guard hid that well lol.

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  2 года назад +1

      It must be that. I mentioned this experiment to Crimson Guitars and they said it’s due to Eddy currents.
      I’ve heard the same is true with Nickel/Brass base plates (apart from with DiMarzio pickups) so that will be a test soon

  • @rutiger6901
    @rutiger6901 2 года назад

    This is a good comparison! But here I listening/watching on my Samsung cellular fone. So that automatically disqualifies me from rendering a qualified opinion. But I do have a pre-conceived notion about this topic. IF there is a tonal difference it may be that a cat could notice it. Them having the sharper hearing and all. I like pickup covers as decoration though. But thanks for keeping the debate going because pup covers appear to be mfg. by the thousands. We have to buy them to keep the pickup cover industry flourishing. It's important.

  • @robertrobertson3754
    @robertrobertson3754 2 года назад

    Hay what about a plastic cover just curious

  • @mikehunt3668
    @mikehunt3668 2 года назад +5

    Was it me or did it sustain alot more with the brass?

    • @mydearriley
      @mydearriley Год назад +1

      That's what I noticed. Made me prefer the brass cover actually.

  • @davidhamilton7780
    @davidhamilton7780 2 года назад

    How many slides left in that guitar? :)

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  2 года назад

      Brilliant. There’s only one way to find out…

  • @theponyneverstops
    @theponyneverstops 2 года назад +3

    Oh my!! That poor guitar!! 🤦I didn't think it would be that much of a difference but the Nickel cover and without cover were definitely brighter and nicer than the brass one.

  • @pedroalmeida7618
    @pedroalmeida7618 2 месяца назад

    Whithout cover or nickel cover

  • @Sirstarfish
    @Sirstarfish 2 года назад

    do Gibsons use nickel covers??

  • @edved796
    @edved796 2 года назад +1

    maybe consider getting some raw nickel covers!

  • @slooptribe
    @slooptribe 9 месяцев назад

    Love the No Cover.

  • @TrixiLovesYou
    @TrixiLovesYou Год назад

    If I were to make a decision, it would depend on the music I was going to play.

  • @jameskesler1930
    @jameskesler1930 10 месяцев назад

    In the context of an actual song with other instruments IMHO it would be difficult to tell any difference.

  • @thebamfordman
    @thebamfordman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yep, brightness goes no cover, nickel, brass. Metal, rock and never put it anywhere near a guitar 😆

  • @iridios6127
    @iridios6127 10 месяцев назад

    It doesn’t have that much of an impact, so I don’t think it matters.

  • @iridios6127
    @iridios6127 10 месяцев назад

    By using incorrect names and terms - you are misleading the public.
    If you had an actual nickel cover, the sound would be greatly muffled due to the strong magnetic shielding of nickel.
    I'm guessing it's a nickelsilver alloy.
    I'm right ?

  • @makemoneyrelax
    @makemoneyrelax 2 года назад

    you probably have a goat farm right?

  • @nedstar7378
    @nedstar7378 2 года назад +1

    It all sounds the same

  • @AlexCausey
    @AlexCausey 5 месяцев назад

    Someone has been smoking to much Wacky Tobaccy. If you want to change the tone of the guitar just use the tone controls on the amp or guitar. This is absolutely ridiculous because playing the guitar with the covers off or on will in no way make you a better player..! Sheezus..!

  • @XChristianNoirX
    @XChristianNoirX 2 года назад

    Weird... I though brass was not magnetic but nickel is... So in theory, brass should affect tone less. Perhaps the nickel covers are actually 75% copper.
    The only way to maybe get to the bottom of this is to buy pickup covers from a trusted company that labels the covers 100% nickel... Otherwise buying pickup covers is a crapshoot.

    • @thumbpickfingers
      @thumbpickfingers Год назад +1

      It's about eddy currents. The metal in question doesn't have to be ferromagnetic to cause eddy currents.

    • @XChristianNoirX
      @XChristianNoirX Год назад +1

      @@thumbpickfingers true, but don't the pole pieces affect the magnetism too? If so, the magnetic properties of metal covers should have some type off effect, along with eddy currents?

    • @thumbpickfingers
      @thumbpickfingers Год назад +1

      @@XChristianNoirX In your original comment you wrote brass should affect tone less because it's not magnetic. That's what I responded to. When you use ferromagnetic material for covers, you increase permeability and increase the output of the pickup. For example 301 stainless steel has a permeability that's very close to 1, so it practically doesn't affect the tone or the output level of the pickup. Aluminum on the other hand causes very high amount of eddy currents.

  • @pepe3675
    @pepe3675 Год назад

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