The Original "Co-Ed Killer", John Norman Collins w/ Gregory A. Fournier
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2020
- In the late 1960s, a serial killer terrorized the city of Ypsilanti, Michigan. Once John Norman Collins lured young women into his car or onto the back of his motorcycle, they would never be seen alive again.
My guest, Gregory A. Fournier, has a personal connection to this case. Collins tried to abduct his girlfriend, right in front of him, over fifty years ago. He shares the tragic stories of the seven women brutally murdered by Collins, and how the killer was finally caught. His book is called "Terror In Ypsilanti: John Norman Collins Unmasked", and his website is gregoryafournier.com .
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I had never heard of these cases until I saw the story on "A Crime to Remember ". An excellent series.
I was between 14 and 16 years old in 1967 through 1969, growing up in Ypsilanti. My friends and I were absolutely terrified. I knew Mary Fleszar's younger sister, and I was just a little older than Dawn Basom, and attended West Junior High, although I didn't know her personally. We were all so relieved when the police finally caught him. It was a very frightening time for all young women in the Ypsi-Ann Arbor area. Sadly, things haven't changed, except it's worse. John Norman Collins was one of the earlier serial killers. Today, monsters like him are everywhere and murders happen like that every day. Ever wonder what this world is coming to?
I was a CO at Marquette Branch Prison 2008-2012. I resigned because of the negative energy. I spent many hours with John . Interesting experience considering now I live in Ypsilanti .
Marquette, Jackson and MR all have really bad vibes.
How does this channel have less than 4,000 subscribers? I started listening to it earlier today, and I've listened to multiple episodes while working remotely now.
I've already shared the channel and a couple episodes with several people today.
Fantastic work, I really enjoy how you do interviews with experts on the subjects involved.
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It's a very good book (Fournier).
He,Collins, was very brazen.
Glad he's still inside.
The old train depot is Depot Town” in Ypsi not Ann Arbor.
For ppl that arent familiar w southeast Michigan, Depot Town is a small section of Ypsilanti near the tracks that has old storefronts/restaurants and businesses (and the old train depot) that date back to the civil war.
Are you referring to the location of the party at which Alice Kalom was last seen? That was at Depot House, an old Ann Arbor Railroad train depot in Ann Arbor (416 South Ashley) which was converted to a rental event space. Depot Town is the neighborhood in Ypsilanti. Both locations figure in the story, which might be a source of confusion. In this podcast, Fournier mistakenly refers to Depot House as “Depot Town” while telling Alice’s story.
Another impeccable interview with a master storyteller. Who would think that a prolific serial killer would ever be upstaged. Leave it to Manson. Thanks, Eric!
erik is a phenomenal interviewer! one of the best
i rally enjoy and appreciate your podcast. i don’t have cable, so podcasts like these give me something to listen to while i clean or try to sleep. thank you. very quality interviews. i’m impressed with your professionalism and hope your channel grows and grows :0)-
Very interesting. I really want to get the book and find out more!
Fournier states that he sold the rights to a Canadian production company? He says he was happy that they wanted to make it a 6 part mini series type of film. Not bad but, he also mentioned he wasn’t interested in the story being a “slasher” film. My question is why not? The factual story is exactly that! The man was a real life monster. He literally slashed, stabbed, shot, brutally beat and, strangled his victims. Collins is the epitome of all that we have been shown as sadistic “thrill kill” serial murderers. If not for the Manson murders that have been nothing but commercialized these crimes would have never been forgotten. There is a case for these crimes to be presented in the same vain as the “The Town that Feared Sundown” movies. There needs to be some serious consideration to make this a true story horror film!
He killed a girl I went to High School with in Plymouth, Joanie Schell. My sister also met him at a dance when he visited Central Michigan University. He is still alive (at least he was in 2021) in Marquette Maximum Security prison. I live w/in a mile of that prison.
Yes, he is still alive as of 2023 ( he's already pushing 80) and remains incarcerated at Marquette. As for your former classmate, that is so terrible and very sad, and may she RIP. Joan Elspeth Schell really was such a beautiful young lady.
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Mr. Fournier is a good story teller
Mr Founier said there were 3 people in the car. Did he explore if they were involved in the crimes and who they were?
One of the occupants was Collins’ roommate Arnold Davis who later told police that he had actually suspected Collins had murdered Joan Schell but was afraid to report his suspensions. In my personal opinion the third occupant would have been Collins’ partner in crime Andrew Manual. Both were cleared of any wrongdoing but, I believe they may have actually known the type of person they were dealing with but were too scared of Collins to report him to the authorities before he could cause more irreversible damage. They both got off way too easy in my opinion.
@@jackbain8919 Thank you
Good question and good answer by Jack.
Very strange, gets in a car with 3 guys and ends up dead. And the other 2 guys didn't come forward.
Whilst they may of not been involved in the murders, it stretches credulity to say they didn't suspect Collins.
Yeah Andrew Manual, really dodged a bullet. Collins should’ve been arrested after this incident. The frat brothers were accessories, how they avoided prosecution is mind boggling.
@@dsd7004 COLLINS IS INNOCENT
I believe that the Nuclear Engineering Department at the University of Michigan used Neutron Activation to match the hair in the basement to the hair of the victim. Both hair samples were exposed to neutron radiation and the latent radiation spectrum roughly matched up.
Edmund Kemper not Richard
I was actually a CO at Marquette Branch Prison, just for 4 years 2008-2012. I chose to resign because it was such a Negative environment. I can say I personally have met John Norman Collins and spent many hours with him.
Currently reading this book. It's a fantastic read for anyone interested.
Ty
@@gaylemc2692 you're welcome. Enjoy, it's a great read
Mr. Fournier's blog is an interesting read.
I saw another video that Greg Fournier did about the book. He mentioned the girlfriend he had at the time He said something about her being shot but I can’t find anything about it. Does anyone know what happened to her ?
FOURNIER IS FULL OF CRAP !!!!
Seems to me they had a strong case with the second murder.
Was there a clear connection between Maralynn Skelton and John Sinclair.