Chiropractors are NOT real doctors?!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Chiropractic adjustment is a full on pseudoscience.
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It is easier to scam someone than to convince someone they’re being scammed
It definitely helps with some things however does not heal you. I get it when my lower back pain is really bad and it offers a few days of relief (OTC medications don’t even to begin to help), I cant say the same for PT which causes more pain and doesn’t fix my back problem either. That being said Im trying to see a spine specialist so it’s only temporary and I only do it when its really bad.
As proven by this comment section!
Oh you mean like how "real" doctors do by trying to get you looked on pain pills Rather than test the actual issue?
@@slappy8941They just trust real doctors with the stuff that actually works.
Especially Americans.
Had a chiropractor tell me when I was 15 “a pediatrician would have just said you have scoliosis” - I literally did have scoliosis
Lmaoooooo "a pediatrician would have just told you you have scoliosis. I, however, will crack your back for you once a week for the rest of your life"
I had one tell me they could “fix” my scoliosis with adjustments every week 😂 I ended up having a spinal fusion and it’s still not fixed lol
@@brookewilson4755that makes two of us
Teeechnically... the chiropractor wasn't wrong; a pediatrician would indeed just have said that 🤔
Probably because a pediatrician wouldn’t treat that. That’s a physical therapy/traction regimen.
I learned that when I was in Navy Boot Camp. The military has Physical Therapists but no Chiropractors as it wasn't a recognized medical procedure.
would be relieving tho to crack some bones but i know it’s not healthy
It is now 😂
@@anastasia0385 wow 👀 wat u mean by that bunny ?
I have insurance and chiro therapy is covered but I prefer not to utilize it
"The chiropractor taught me exercises so that I don't have to go to him"- my Dad. It's really a temporary relief.
Most good/honest chiropractors are upfront about that. Cracking joints is just to temporarily relieve pain and encourage mobility so that you can strengthen and actually fix the issue.
Butt he temporary relief is sometimes what you need so you can face the movements that you need to correct it on the long run
Stretch more people! For real, it can save your life if you fall or stumble. Being flexible means you'll be able to handle the stress of odd movements and maybe even catch yourself as you fall.
@@CalliKira you are right. I need to start doing this.
The funny thing is you're talking about the best way to tell if they are a quack. If they give you exercises instead of just doing "adjustments" every week then that can be legit treatment. Its partially how physical therapy works.
The scammers want you coming once a week to get your adjustment they have no real interest in helping you.
People get SOOOOO mad when you criticize chiropractors.
...and it'll be because of a single bs anecdotal reference like their cousin's labrador's step-uncle had back hernia but got better after going to a chiropractor.
We Do NOT!!
Doctors used to tell people smoking was healthy.
@@nothingnothings2264They still say red wine is good for your heart 😂
They still want you on statines.
Quacks!
The sad part is my insurance will reimburse chiropractic care easily but need to get authorization for physical therapy and it means more out of pocket costs for me 😅
The US healthcare system is a dark carnival of human rights abuses
Yeah, they force you to do physical therapy before scans because it's cheaper even though you don't know what the problem is. And then it turns out that you spend more money on physical therapy than a scan would've cost and aren't any better off than before
Yep I've experienced this too.
Cause one costs $40 and one costs $40,000.
Because that will give you a reason to keep paying them. It's a whole ecosystem.
This is the best short summary of everything you need to know about chiropractors I've ever come across.
Unfortunately it's an inaccurate and incomplete picture of what chiropractic actually is.
@@ThanhNguyen-ds1kl It covers the main idea well
@@asiamies9153
It doesn't even come close to covering "the main idea" (whatever that is) well.
@@ThanhNguyen-ds1kl Subluxations are not a thing. It's pseudoscience.
@@Knight766
Based on what evidence?
The cracking sound. The cracking sound is what makes it 15 billion $ industry.
Those studies also mention that the few chiropractic practices that have noticeable positive benefits are not only closer to physical therapy; but are also almost always done in tandem with exercises and stretches that are similar to the musculoskeletal exercises that a physical therapist would likely have you do had you gone to them in the first place.
Any good chiropractor will tell you that you need to do your homework. The ones that just want to milk you will tell you that you should come in more and more frequently
It's still important to be mindful of the good chiropractors out there. It's nice to know it's pseudoscience, but that doesn't mean all chiropractors are bad.
@@Daiwie44But why support it at all when PT can do it better and is based on actual acience?
Yeha but why not just go to a PT in the first place?
@@Daiwie44 Go to an Osteopath they are licensed medical doctors who study and know how to give adjustments.
That “yeeeeah” feels like it’s not the first time she has had this conversation
I suspect the reason it's so prevalent is that chiropractic care is more accessible.
That's like saying "most people eat dog turds because they're more accessible than steak". It might technically be more accessible, but if the best case scenario is that it does nothing at all and the *average* scenario is that it will harm you (either actively by tearing cartilage, popping joints or *breaking your neck* or passively by making you wait longer before you treat the actual underlying issue of scoliosis, cancer or whatever it might be), then that is still not a good explanation for why it's popular.
Walking in front of a truck and getting turned into street soup is a lot more accessible than finding a crossing somewhere and waiting for a green light. It's still not very popular though, because it is also INCREDIBLY DUMB.
So the real explanation for why chirotherapy is that popular has to be "because people are dumb enough to believe that it's helpful"
@@sakkikoyumikishi
What they mean is insurance will let you go to a Chiro no problem, but will make you jump through hoops to get actual PT.
@@sakkikoyumikishiyou are absolutely insane, and if there wasn't enough videos on youtube of people not being able to walk or in extreme pain, going to the chiropractor fixed them. Where as a doctor would put rodes in their back or put them on pain meds. Is chiropractor the answer to everything, no, but it's an effective treatment
@@devilmonkey sure, kid, sure. The person who understands the difference between correlation and causation is "absolutely insane", lol
You okay, honey? Maybe ease up on the drųgs some time
@@devilmonkey No. It's not an effective treatment. They're quacks. They break significantly more spines than they "fix".
I once asked an old school buddy who became a physiotherapist if chiropracty was a scam. He told me 'Listen, if you go to a chiropractor once and they fix your problem then that's great. But if you have to keep going back to them regularly for treatment they are f'ing you up.'
That’s not really true. If a chiropractor should be able to fix you up after one visit, then so should a medical doctor. And we know that’s not true either.
@@latsnojokelee6434that’s also not the same analogy
So you go back to a "real Dr." more than once? Ah, that's right Drs and lawyers have a "practice".
@@johnmcgraw3568 Yeah if doctor has to keep treating the same problem that otherwise has a permanent fix you are probably visiting a chrio or a crystal healer or reiki practitioner and not an actual doctor kek.
@@paddydwyer1 you must have had better luck with "real" doctors than most
Every time I tell anyone this they argue with me and tell me I am stupid.
You are
@@jordanweaver9759lol you’re a gullible gary
Sounds like you’re surrounded by idiots…
@@jordanweaver9759did ghosts tell you to say that?
It's because getting your back cracked feels good and nobody wants to hear that it has no real benefit.
I'm a radiorapher. 2 of my young patients (siblings) who have moderate-severe scoliosis went to this popular chiro in my area for 4 times a week for 1 year, with a promise that their spine will be "fixed". They came back for xray after 6months - no change with the curvature. I advised them to better see an orthopedic, they did not. Came back again after 1 year ff up - still, no change.
they really just go to a bone masseuse and hope it would cure them
@@skywatcher458 “bone masseuse" is wild 😂
Shocking. Lmao
Your first mistake is assuming scoliosis is curable
❤
Had a chiropractor do an adjustment when I was about 19 or 20. He said I had dislocated ribs and rotated discs. He did the adjustment and there was immediate relief. He then told me to get in the gym and strengthen my back muscles so I didn’t have to come see him again. Haven’t had back issues since, best doctor I’ve been to.
Uhhm. This is the internet. Please take your relevant real life experiences somewhere else.
Am actual medial doctor would have prescribed muscle relaxers and sent you out the door.
“Dislocated ribs” 😂😂😂
Smooth brain, more likely.
Many chiropractors offer services that more lean towards physiotherapy than traditional chiropractic beliefs
@@jakecarter4407 why take a toxic liver disrupting pill ??!! Pills are poison!
No he wasn’t, because he literally was not a doctor.
I used to have these debilitating muscle “spasms” in my upper back about twice a year, and they would put me out of commission for 2-3 days. Finally tired enough of my periodic but sever upper back pain, I went to a doctor. A PHD-holding medical doctor. After the exam and x-rays, he told me it was a muscle spasm, and I would just “have to live with it”. He gave me some stretching exercises, a prescription for muscle relaxers, and sent me on my way. It eased the pain temporarily, but didn’t stop the spasms. In a desperate attempt for relief, I went to a chiropractor. After one adjustment, the pain was gone. 20 years later, and I haven’t had it since. I don’t care what documentation you have in your wall. If you make me better, I’m a fan.
Congratulations you got lucky
This!
Don't use logic and experience. Just listen to the internet.
Physical therapy is the joke. That's only good for major injuries where you need to regain strength.
So happy for you❤
Hey siri, search survivors bias.
the ones that perform it on babies and animals really scare me and should be investigated
I mean, the ones I've seen have relieved animals of chronic pain so...
The chiropractor saved my dogs life. I’ll take my chances. They are also the ones that discovered my neck was broken where my GP ignored me and let me be paralyzed on one side for weeks.
I had one for my baby and he gave a massage, it was really helpful actually. They didn't do anything crazy.
@@badxradxandy Except that's not normal.... there are entire videos of people full stop flinging babies around and putting full adult weight on spots to crack the new cartilage that DOESN"T NEED THAT. Taking your baby to get a masage is stupid. Taking your baby to a chiropractor is straight up child abuse.
@@badxradxandyThey could have easily killed your baby.
I wish I knew this earlier, I went the chiropractor for a long time and they took X-rays and everything, they failed to mention I had scoliosis and that chiropractics wouldn’t help that.
And that's who's fault again? Maybe YOURS?
Wow they can't even read x rays but took it 😅😅😅😊
And "real doctors" don't miss anything? They do so all the time.
@@AaronSmith-sx4ez not literally all the time, compare that to chiropractors who will miss stuff literally all the time
Real doctors absolutely do miss things all the time. Chiropractic absolutely can help scoliosis. They can’t cure it. And some of them are better than others.
A chiropractor relieved my neck and shoulder pain. Will be forever grateful.
Using a massage gun would probably give the same benefit
@@Lolatyou332nope. That was temporary. The chiropractor's fix to my spine has been going strong for 10 years.
Heck, I swear another chiropractor took 5 years off my knees.
@@Lolatyou332lol sounds like a good way to paralyze yourself
Ask a cardiologist if a chrio should touch you're neck. Or even a ER tech
My chiropractor was also a physical therapist. I had head toe pain 24/7 for 8 years I couldn’t walk, use my arms or lay down. After the first session I was almost pain free after the 2nd session no more pain. It’s been 5 years now pain free.
Sounds like you went to a physical therapist.
Same here, due to AS and scoliosis my right leg, si joints and shoulder will go out about an inch. Causing me major back pain and migraines. I go to my chiropractor he pops my si joints back in place and I’m good to go for a month or so. However, I’ve seen 3 and only one is a great chiro.
They can criticize all they want, but spinal misalignment causes debilitating pain. Chiropractors fix that.
@@GracieNJavieno it doesn't and no they don't.
@@thundabearz5092 When you have back pain, remember chiropractors are not an option for you. Enjoy your pain meds, injections and surgery. Meanwhile I’ll go have a back adjustment and be good to go.
One of my friends was “adjusted” by a chiro and immediately felt severe pain, turns out that while cracking her back he tore cartilage in her chest by her sternum and she had to be on almost 100% rest for weeks
sure Jan
😂😂 ok, Maddie.
@@aaronwesley286 there have been cases where chiropractors cracked someone's neck, severed an artery, and the person died several days later. Relatively healthy people in their 30s with no medical issues that could explain it. We don't know how often this happens, because chiropractic organizations try to cover it up or deny it. Google "chiropractic deaths" and there are some research papers on the topic.
@aaronwesley286 is it that hard to believe ? These fuckers can cause death in serious cases
I hope the two above me wake up soon
There is a chiropractor in a small town nearby and he keeps telling people he can feel their childhood trauma in their muscles. I'm the local therapist and this upsets me to no end. Example: he's palpating the shoulder and gets an inquisitive look before saying "hmm? Did you happen to have some pretty unfortunate experiences at a young age? Potentially traumatic experiences? Cause it's right here." Then the person bawls their eyes out thinking the chiropractor uncovered something. Before you ask, it's not driving business my way because it's too jarring and they think it can be solved by the chiropractor.
If you're really a therapist, then you know unresolved trauma gets stored in the body/muscles. I am currently doing somatic therapy with a licensed counselor (after many years of CBT) plus I go to an excellent chiropractor with whom I've had these sort of discussions. He's been in practice for about 40 years with a specialty in neurology and more. Maybe you shouldn't be so judgey, hmm?
@@elmtree33 🙄
@@elmtree33what a joke lmao 💀
Kreskin would be proud
You should start giving your patients shoulder massages to get back at his business.
After having my first baby, I had really bad pain, tingling, and numbness down my left leg. That was the first time I went to a chiropractor. He said I had a pinched nerve in my lower back, did one adjustment, and it was gone. I know this example falls into her example of "a little bit of evidence," but it wasn't temporary relief. I never had that problem again, and it was amazing.
There are a lot of us with similar experiences. It's weird how many people get off on hating chiropractors.
I had real neck pain, severe at times for years. After several chiropractic sessions, it went away completely. I’ve been pain free for years. Now, the guy did tell me to stop turning my head whisk into crack my neck, something I had been doing a lot for years. So for whatever is worth, I appreciate them.
Yeah the md cultest here won't like hearing this, they have metal rodes in the backs and are on pain meds for the rest of their lives.
The best part about chiropractics is that they often create a cycle of "fixing" the problem to get you to come back next week when it's worse than last time.
Compared to doctors that just prescribe pain medication that you have to continuously renew?
Not all chiros are deceptive . The medical system is WAY worse
@@user-ut6cb7mq3n Just because the medical system in the United States is poor and barely functions to address issues doesn't mean that chiropractic is any better lol
@@officialtigerfish7633Some are legit and also have medical background like Dr. Rahim Gonstead for example. He analyze the patient condition with X-Ray and observing their spine and muscoskeletal movement and explain properly what cause their issues and pain. Of course chiropractic uses is limited. The one claiming they can fix anything is a scam. Check out his channel and think for yourself instead of blindly accepting. Some legit doctors even give bad advice so who knows if the doctor in the vid actually knows or do any research
@@user-ut6cb7mq3n In the US sure, in places where the goverment is responsible for medicine and healthcare, they actually want you to get better because it costs the goverment less money.
Chiropractor tried to convince my mom to get “adjustments” to cure her cancer…. 😂
medical malpractice
That's awful, cruel and must be illegal, as the above commenter said, medical malpractice.
I’ve heard of one chiropractor who does adjustments on infants. Absolutely insane
You need to expose this person. IMO.
@@ericsevareid5072it’s not medical, no M.D. is a chiropractor
I knew this, but my brother's chiropractor was also a nutritionist and helped him relieve and get almost entirely rid of his constant acid reflux and heartburn. He is really happy
I went to a chiropractor who did something similar as well, I was seeing him as I got diagnosed with some rare disorders and he requested my blood panels. Next visit he was giving advice on what I could do to try and prevent pain and flare ups as much as I could, what supplements would help, what foods to avoid, exercises, everything. He was constantly researching and trying to help my quality of life. Some of them truly care and just want to help.
I only go to chiropractors that partner with physical therapists. Before college I knew a guy that had the exact philosophy she talked about with the popping giving temporary relief. He would pop and crack to help with mobility and then you would immediately go to the physical therapist side. His exact words to me were “I help you turn your neck now so he can help you turn your neck forever.”
Just go to a Physical Therapist. Chiropractors are redundant and they undo whatever progress your PTs have done. Ypu're wasting your time and money. Just stick with a PT or someone specializing in rehab medicine.
Or just find a chiropractor that has an MD. They aren't all that common but there are at least a couple in all the bigger cities.
@@rumblefish9if you’re in such pain you can’t do the exercises then just going to pt isn’t going to help much. Along with pt you should be getting massages then chiropractic then pt. You’ll get faster and better results then just suffering through pain hoping you have the strength to actually get through your routine.
Chiropractor made me to walk again , fixed my skeletal system and relieved bone arthritis .
I’m pain free thanks to my chiropractor. And I call him a doctor, because he deserves it.
@@sophiezieba9705hahahaha, i di not believe u on bit
One of my friends had a stroke at 25 because of a chiropractic adjustment. They can do serious damage.
Man there’s more serious damages done by some real doctors also
@@pyroptosis Yeah but the doctors get medical training and are generally reliable. Chiropractors are just scammers with a veneer of legitimacy
@@pyroptosis yes and this isn't about THEM, this is about chiropractic.
@@pyroptosis That is like saying cars kill a lot of people, so don't dismiss guns, because guns are just like cars.
@@pyroptosisyeah 99.99% of doctors help you and 00.01% of doctors might accidentally hurt you, chiropractors are LITERALLY just scam artists. The best way I can explain this is cracking your fingers. Some people do it often, some claim it can damage your joints, some people take pleasure in it, but do you think that cracking your fingers can help with any medical issue you might have in your hands like arthritis? Obviously not. But that's LITERALLY WHAT CHIROPRACTIC """DOCTORS"""" DO, like 100% thats it. It does nothing but potential damage, with potential momentary relief the same way you feel at ease when you stretch your back and hear that cracking; difference is you are ACTUALLY STRETCHING WHILST DOING IT (actual useful thing), and you don't expect the cracking to fix your baxk issues, don't you?
Dad is occupational therapist and hated chiropractors. Says in a recovery situation they do more harm than good
My chiropractor found my scoliosis and helped to improve my posture, reduced my foot pain and helped with my neck.
I decided once that I would try going to a chiropractor. He started the consult by telling me how he could cure diabetes and high blood pressure and some autoimmune disorders through chiropractic adjustments and I was like “ Ok I’ve heard enough. Where’s the exit?”
Jfc that is shameless
Those are the bad ones. That's the issue when the medical industry shuns chiropractors. You get guys like that who will go so far off the reservation.
Find a chiropractor who is willing to say no
My parents were into this and I have been taken since age 10, now I have a back fusion
Doing it without reason is not good. You wouldn't get laser eye surgery if you have perfect vision. You wouldn't wear a cast with a normal leg.
Well tell that to my buddy that could hardly walk at times but since he started going to one is not in constant pain anymore
Let’s be honest just because someone is a doctor doesn’t mean they even know what they are talking about.
Know more than chiropractors that's for sure
@@AceTaxiaGamingnot necessarily
In my limited experience, chiropractors do stay in their lane. I’ve never felt as though they were trying to scam me. Adjustments provide temporary relief in a similar way that massages do. It’s just that they are super precise with it. Will they encourage you to come back? Probably, as would a massage parlor. Does that make it a scam?
Not necessarily imo.
Yeah, YOUR experience. There are a lot of them that arent as the whole field is based on pseudoscience. The “good” ones are just copying physical therapists which is a legitimate field.
I have had the same experience as you. Chiropractics as a specialty has its place for pain and things like that. I dont agree that it is a magical cure all for all the other crazy things some people claim that it can do. It has helped when my kid was getting migraines to get rid of them and helped my kid with torticollis pain and helps with pain when i throw my back or neck out but thats as far as it goes.
Is that not as far as anyone wants it to go?
@@dinbabwa452 how do you mean?
I agree. Scamming is on the individual, not the Practice.
Medical Doctors can scam, Chiropractors can scam, Dentists can scam. Does that mean the Medicine is a scam? No.
In Australia, the key chiropractic degree does the first two years with the physiotherapists and osteotherapists. Maybe its different here.
yup you have to take that into consideration
It's not, same here. This shirt also only gives half the story look into that guys son who is the one responsible for it catching on
Yeah, in Canada DC program instructors are MD, PhD, ND etc too and the core content is the same. DCs take way more hours of anatomy and radiology than family physicians do but way less pharmacology/drugs/medicine.
It is different. In Canada, medical doctors and chiropractic doctors both take 5 years medical school, the first 4 are identical, MDs study medication and medical procedures, and Chiropractors study bone and muscle manipulation. In some States, you can challenge the "chiropractic" test right out of high school.
The chiro I know did 4 to 6 years of study here in the states before going accreditation.
I've been undergoing chiropractic treatment for 18 months due to a few different back issues, and I have absolutely no complaints. A couple of more treatments, and my spine and neck will be cracked back to normal.
I used to get very bad neck pain as a teen. I went to a DC and adjusted my hip. The pain was gone, and my neck has beem pain free since I had my hip put back in place.
Thats probably hard to hear for a lot of people who are currently getting their bank accounts drained
If you've never been to a chiropractor, how would you possibly believe you know what you're talking about?
@@slappy8941 Im not suicidal
@@slappy8941 I never been to the moon, but I certainly know that we can't breathe there without spacesuit and the moon dust is not only toxic but also abrasive. What's your point then?
@slappy8941 it's called science and evidence. You don't need to get scammed to know about scams.
@@slappy8941we seriously gonna sit here and pretend we know more about this than the lady with the MD? Is your dumbass going to sit here and do that? Really? That’s how you want to spend your day? Huffing the copium?
I messed up my back when I was splitting wood as a teenager and would get shooting pains in my neck if I lifted my left arm passed my shoulder. It took me two years to visit a chiropractor, he had me lay on my side and cracked my back and it sounded like firecrackers. He flipped me on my other side and did the same thing but way less popping. Almost 20 years later and I have never had that pain ever again, one visit, no referral, no follow up, no need for weekly physical therapy, no pills, no surgery, no MRI, no EEG, just a $50 copay to see a specialist. I assure you that was a very real doctor.
I’m glad it worked! But those sounds are just gases moving around.
I’m glad you had that experience but there’s a bunch of very scamming and downright evil chiropractors out there.
@@nuggetlovesgilliananderson Right because there's never been scammy or evil doctors. You're an idiot.
@@nuggetlovesgilliananderson not really. That's all a fear mongering myth, the VAST majority of chiropractors do not even PRETEND to claim the things this woman says they claim in the video.
@@Jfchild It's not just that games and zero skeletal movement. You've really been brainwashed.
Getting you spine adjusted into alignment is similar to getting your car aligned to drive straight and wear tires properly. It's absolutely works! And to suggest it has no redeeming value is an obnoxious misrepresentation.
People go to chiropractors because their doctor has insisted on an astronomically priced surgery (with insane recovery times) or has pushed pills.
This same type of thing is what caused the current opioid problem and leads to antibiotic resistant diseases.
Is a chiropractor a cure? No, but it offers relief to those who are not willing to accept the other 2 options.
I have went to a chiropractor before. He adjusted me and I was in excruciating pain afterwards. Never again.
what were you like before you went? It's not like you go by accident
Yeah, doctors would put metal rodes in your back instead, go that route everyone
@@devilmonkeyif it fixes it
@@devilmonkey That's a strawman.
Modern chiros tend to focus more on movement and alignment these day, and avoid the hocus pocus of the past.
Thank goodness.
Plus, a lot of chiropratic programs teach the same stuff my sister learned in nursing school
EXACTLY, the views showed on the video are VERY outdated.
They don't advertise it, no, and it's not as hokey as all that, but a lot of them still tout their practices as being able to cure diabetes and cancer.
That's the danger because they have no real medical skills, and they can really mess up your back.
Well a chiropractor has pretty much saved my back where the doctors couldn't do anything so...
I went to chiropractors for months and was so convinced it was working. I realized it did nothing and actually caused my pulled muscles because my body sized up after to harsh movements
I got whiplash really bad. And my neck and back was so stiff I couldn't turn my head and I had tremendous pain. The doctors wouldn't really help except prescribe pills. I went to a chiropractor, and he was able to get me to be able to to crack my neck and i was finally able to move my head left to right.and release the tension in my shoulders. The pain was completely gone right away. I still had stiffness in my neck and shoulders which after 3 visits was gone. I don't credit that to doctors helping me, a chiropractor did. Doctors only wanted to prescribe narcotics but a but a chiropractor got me out of pain. I don't care if it's not a doctor, a chiropractor definitely helped me.
This is why I love chiropractic! A good chiropractor can have a profound positive impact on someone’s life :-)
Yes, this is an example of the physical therapy aspect some chiropractors perform. It was not the chiropractic medicine that helped you, it was the physical therapy. It would be better to see an actual physical therapist.
@@toasteronabagel Large majority of chiropractors or physical therapists and practice physical therapy. The whole notion that there's voodoo pseudoscience is a complete myth
@@toasteronabagelno that’s not true. It was chiropractic. They adjusted her neck. Physical therapy takes longer than 3 sessions.
I make up medical anecdotes on the internet too
We had a chiropractor come in during health class when I was 14. Dude told me that my celiac was because of my spine… bro what
A masseuse is more legitimate than a chiropractor.
I had gotten an x-ray and apparently had a pinched nerve in my neck. Was told to just go to a chiropractor. It definitely did help.
I understand how they convince idiots to pay, but I am impressed how they got the insurance companies to pay
Very effective lobbying
Right even Medicaid pays for chiros. When I learned that I was like... Why tf can't they cover massage then? That'd be way more valuable.
Fun fact. The ACA lobbied against having PTs and Massage Therapists covered under insurance and medical coverage cuz more people would be likely to use a chiropractor if they're the only ones covered by insurance. I don't think it worked though, at least I hope it didn't. @@MB-vi8zp
Ive been saying this! Why are quack chiros covered but a massage isn’t‽
@@MB-vi8zp I actually had massages covered by insurance after a car accident. The chiro I was seeing was able to convince them it was necessary for recovery.
Yet, as a person with a genetic connective tissue disorder, chiropractors have helped my chronic pain and regular bone dislocation problems more than any medical doctor ever has.
And yet, every study done has shown that everything a chiropractor can do a PT can also do but better, but keep risking your life and being a dumbass Ana 💀
The issue I see with chiropractors is they claim things are subluxated when they are not. Like obviously with EDS joints subluxate and dislocate, but for people with working collagen, their back pain isn’t caused by a subluxated vertebrae (maybe unless trauma was involved).
Also with EDS, chiropractors need to be careful not to introduce a movement and stretch the ligaments because they won’t go back; not all chiropractors know that and may cause more harm than good. (I’m not trying to argue and say you shouldn’t go get the care you need; I just think it needs to be more widely discussed the harm an untrained chiropractor can do).
And yet anecdotal doesn't equal evidence.
It's not medical in anyway.
If some said they felt better because they drank bleach, would you think that was good evidence?
Before you think that is a ridiculous comparison search bleach cult on RUclips.
the important thing here isn’t saying that all chiropractors are quacks. As mentioned, a lot of them do have experience with physical therapy and have worked with physicians, but it’s important to understand what they’re actually doing to your body and why it’s helping you instead of taking what they say as fact because a good number of them don’t know what they’re doing, do not have the certifications needed, and are really just practising a pseudoscience, which has caused a lot of harm for others. there simply isn’t enough of a scientific basis.
My masseuse has given me more pain relief in my back than any doctor. Doctors just say this is it. Nothing we can do. Here’s some gabapentin.
A chiropractor has helped me more than “real” doctors
Right...when you develop heart or pulmonary issues, let me know how they'll help.
@@wanderxcv9403 shut up. You know what I mean. GFY.
Anyone who ever watched Two and a Half Men knows that chiropractors aren't real doctors 😂
lol alan rolling in his grave right now
There is some truth to the statement that the early days of chiropractic health were weird and unusual by today's standards. But, guess what! The early days of medical doctors and pharmaceutical science involved treatments such as ingesting cocaine or placing leeches on the patient's skin. If you go back far enough, you could make the claim that any modern science or modern practice had dubious beginnings if you already have a bias against that practice.
But in this case the science doesn’t appear to have shown it works, like she said the data shows some improvements for low back pain in the research but not much else. I haven’t done a full lit review of the topic myself so I can’t say for sure, but if the data doesn’t show that it really has real benefits then it remains essentially a pseudoscience. Which is her point I believe.
Research has been done and continues to be done by medical professionals which strongly suggests that chiropractic medicine is beneficial to patients. We need to get rid of the stigma that chiropractors do not care for their patients or take their patients' health seriously.
@@GreenSharpieSciencethe issue is the way many of these studies are done. The idea of feeling better isn't exactly scientific. If you look into the science of massages and then transfer that to chiropractic adjustments you'll understand the value between them. Noted, I would still say always get medical attention before you seek out a massage therapist or chiropractor.
Let's be honest. If it was truly a pseudoscience as she claimed, health insurance wouldn't cover it. It doesn't cover other experimental treatments. You really think a greedy insurance company is going to cover one iota more than absolutely necessary? Think a bit.
Exactly. There are STILL things that medical doctors do that are incredibly harmful like the overprescription of antibiotics and opioids and pharmaceutical companies make tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars more every year than chiropractic.
Cracking my lowerback allows a wider range of movements when I exercise. It doesn’t cure my knocked knees but it helps me manage ligament strain.
WELL CHIROPRACTICS HAS HELPED ME THAT DAY WHEN I THREW OUT MY BACK TO THE POINT I HAD TO CRAWL TO THE RESTROOM AND THEN I COULDNT WIPE.
Degree or not, theyve fixed more stuff for me than an md has. Bad headaches, a couple times with wearing back pain, a shoulder thing, even this wierd random dizziness that wouldnt stop. Meanwhile, my md cant figure out I had a thyroid problem for 35 yrs
Placebos are strong with this one
Chiropractors have killed babies trying to ‘put the vertebrae back in place’ so they will cry less. Scariest ‘occupation’ I know. As an MD having worked in pediatrics, I still don’t understand how these people are allowed to ‘treat’ people.
As someone with joint issues, the chiro's temporary relief mixed with physical therapy was the only way to relieve permanent pain.
For a very short period of time for quite a bit of money yes.
A lot of PTs will also do manual manipulation, mine did!
Just use drugs like normal people, I've heard heroin helps with a lot of different pains
Exactly, it’s a wonderful add-on, not a replacement!!
this seems fallacious. Physical therapy does show benefits for long term pain so adding an additional element isn't showing any effect for the additional element
A chiropractor cracked my neck 4 years ago, and years of pain just disappeared never to come back.
Fun Fact: Did you know chemistry has its roots in alchemy?
I make up medical anecdotes on the internet too
@@SintoCarrera You sound like an awful person.
That fun fact is actually true..... you know why it is called Chemistry now instead of still being called alchemy? Yet we still them chiropractors..... with no name change..... see what I am getting here?
And? That doesn’t make chiro any less of a pseudoscience.
But chemistry today follows accepted scientific principles and chiropractics today does not.
Eating food is a temporary solution to hunger.
'Snake oil Salesmen' is the 2nd oldest profession.
I can’t get over how much that statue looks like Jack Black
Bruhh 😂😂the comment I was looking for..
Omg, I live near the statue and I will never be able to unsee that
I grew up thinking chiropractors were real doctors, due to the fact my dad is a chiropractor, and he always wants to be address professionally as Dr.
I'll never forget the day when I asked him how the "medical" field he went to college for works, and he said, "We don't really know how it works."
I gotta hear more! You've got some rare insight there, that most would stayed hushed about.
Well if he's a DC then he is a real doctor, just not a _medical_ one.
D. C. means Doctor of Chiropractic
@@Robertmartinesyeah the point being most people make an assumption that they're a medical doctor, when they're not. It's misleading.
@@Robertmartines I once gave myself the title a DQ - Doctor in Quackery.
I henceforth want to be addressed as Dr, because I'm also a real Dr.
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They fixed my back. No doctor did that.
What is this supposed to mean? This comment is meaningless.
@@cessnacitation-x you can't read?
I've yet to meet someone that goes to a chiropractor that doesn't have to go 1-4 times a month for the rest of their life.
Not once has anyone ever said "I went to the chiropractor 2 months ago and I've been great ever since!"
Even without a doctor telling me, I knew this was a scam the second I heard it.
I had a chiropractor growing up. My chiropractor was probably one of the few good ones because he really did help me give temporary relief. Sure, it’s temporary but for somebody who has had back pains and mobility issues all my life, it is a literal night and day difference between me the day before an asjustment and the day after. I can run faster and with less effort, I’m not as tense, and my body doesn’t ache constantly. I can feel when my body is asking for another appointment. That being said, don’t trust most chiropractors and idk what I’m gonna do when he retires or if I ever move
same. i have a short leg and the resulting back issues give me grief, and the chiropractor is the only thing standing between me and agony. but i know enough to know i don’t trust most of the ones i’ve met and mine has never bs’d me. and i also have tried other avenues, physiotherapy has helped with other things but not that.
I know they’re not real doctors but they did help my mom a lot when she threw her back out (I think that’s the saying). One day about 8 years ago she sat down and couldn’t get up after, could barely move her back or neck. My dad had to support her as she walked. She’d always had lower back problems but it was never really this bad, so my dad took her to the chiropractor to see if they could fix her. She was there for an hour or two, I can’t remember exactly, but she came out perfectly fine as if nothing had even happened. No recovery time was needed beyond that. Compare that to a more recent event where she laid down on the couch and her back seized up, the first time this happened since the previous event, and we couldn’t get her anywhere appointment until 3 days later. The pain didn’t go away that whole time, and she had to stay in her room because walking down the stairs was too painful. However, once we got her an appointment and she went, she felt immediately so much better when she got back, and she could walk without my dad’s support. A couple hours of sleep later, she was good as new and could hold my baby brother again. Chiropractors may not be real doctors, but I’m really grateful for how they helped my mom.
Yeah. It’s best to think of them more like massage therapists. If you’ve got a problem that could be solved by physical therapy, a chiropractor could potentially help.
Absolutely awful to see some chiropractors who claim they can cure cancer and the like. Could end up delaying actual treatment and killing people.
This video is problematic. It discounts M. D. s who practice chiropractic functions and keep us off of narcotics.
@@Pixdust77You're statement is problematic, because it's wrong
@@aregulargenericname8794you know toddlers sit there and scream you're wrong too, without being an adult and explaining why.
Thank God for Chiropractors.
God's not real just like how chiropractors are not real healthcare providers.
The way someone in my local town is claiming to be a “neuro-chiropractor” whose techniques can influence your brain on a neurological level is baffling to me and frankly sickening
I went to a chiropractor when I hurt my back. They cracked my back and stuff which helped with the pain I was feeling, then walked me through some exercises they believed would help some of my strength imbalances that lead to the issue in the first place.
Very few in my experience operate like this.
congrats . You basically got Spinal Manipulation and Exercise prescription. That's literally what PTs do
@sosickandtiredofalltheneed568 and?
@@sosickandtiredofalltheneed568yet it’s cheaper
I’ve only ever gone to a physiotherapist ands have never needed to go to a chiropractor. I was told growing up that they could accidentally kill you by snapping your neck the wrong way.
They literally can.
Neck/head adjustments where they make them click are sadly a popular type of video on RUclips even though they're highly dangerous and can paralyse and even kill.
They can be dangerous but the chances are very low. Let's not over exaggerate it@@GazB85
That's why dad won't allow me to get my neck adjusted by a chiropractor. He pretty much yells at me
@@_mayathecreator_smart dad. You should listen to him more.
Whereas that can happen in very rare cases, let's not forget that medical malpractice kills people too and is not uncommon.
I used to have a friend who was a chiropractor, and he showed me how self-centered those people are. He would exclusively call himself a "Healer" and that that mindset is common with a chiropractor.
Thanks for pointing this out. People have been left paraplegic after a visit at a chiropractitioner,. It is horrible and dangerous
I was in pain for a year straight with back pain doctors just prescribed pain meds and suggested Pt. PT was 200$ a visit.... I went to a chiropractor for 3 weeks 30$ a visit and no more pain.... Chiropractors can help
My brother went through the windshield of his car in a head on collision. The doctors told him he would not ever regain use of his arm.
A chiropractor worked with him for 4 months and he regained 100% use.
Exactly. This is BS smear campaign. I’ve also had the MOST help with massage and that’s still not covered by insurance.
That's a nice anecdote. Doesn't prove chiropractic works. Sorry.
@@CM-pf1xc Found the chiropractor
My chiropractor got rid of my chronic lower stiff back pain, something pain medication wasn’t able too.
at least chiropractors don't say the pain is all in your head 💀
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Well yeah... They wouldn't be able to scam you if they said that. They aren't psychologists.
@@eschaton normal doctors do this. i pass out almost every time i stand up or bend over, severe chronic body pain to the point of being unable to get out of bed to eat or shower for DAYS, hands go completely numb if my hands aren't down to my side.. and 3 doctors have said it's anxiety.
all pain is in the head...
My Mother is a Physical Therapist and she used to say Chiropractors and Fitness Trainers keep her busier than anyone else
Because?
I've seen a lot of chiropractic videos and most of them are the same, showing women wearing skin tight leggings and crop tops..
I've once (out of maye 5 or 6) been to a chiropractor who made those claims. They're usually very helpful and can help identify and combat basic orthopedic issues. Stop trying to make an entire profession look stupid.
They're not stupid, they're scammers.
@communications23 you can get scammed by any profession.
@@communications23why does my chiropractor charge $25 to put in a dislocated elbow but the doctor charge $800 for the same. Who is the scammer?
@@AndrewL4me The chiropractor. Fixing a dislocated elbow is not chiropractic. I'm talking about chiropractors when they do chiropractic.
1 in 5 is crazy when we’re talking about literal grifting and pseudoscience though?????? Like that’s a high rate of people who are awful even just in your personal experience and you’re still trying to defend!!
If you crack a joint, 20 minutes later, you can crack it again as the nitrous oxide builds back up in the sinusoidal fluid between your joints. There was no "adjustment" taking place, the joint was moved enough for the gas to escape, that's the pop, THAT'S IT.
Definitely not nitrous oxide lol
& definitely not just cracking joints if you do it hard enough. Same pop though so I see how you’re confused.
@@FURYBrenton guess what gas is responsible for your knuckle cracks?
@@Akramism I don’t need to guess. It’s oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide. Definitely not nitrous oxide, we don’t have NOS in us lol
@@FURYBrenton dominic toretto has!
The funniest part is when you tell people that chiropractic is BS, they always come back with "No way man, last year I hurt my neck and I went to a chiropractor and he fixed it in 3 weeks!" As if their neck wouldn't have healed on it's own in that same amount of time or less.
And yet. Chiropractors are often accepted under insurance, and recommended by doctors. Why else would people assume that it wasn't a fake science?
I had a chiropractor that was pretty good. First time I left his office, I was amazed how much easier it was to walk. It felt like my hips had been oiled. He also scraped away a bunch of scar tissue that had been causing me back problems, and that helped a lot. I wouldn't expect him to treat me for cancer, though.
If giving temporary adjustment means avoiding the surgery and having no pain or any spinal issues for the last ten years whatsoever-then yes sure call it WHATEVER you want.😂
Have you heard of the placebo effect?
@@jefsti have you had a RI taken and your spine had suddenly "went" back into place? The doctor told me IT was impossible and yet did not deny IT. At the end of the dayI się not have to have an operation. That's all.
I used to go to the chiropractor religiously for my low back pain. Finally went to a physical therapist and started seeing improvement right away.
My favorite now is "naturopathic health coach" aka. no degree
Had a weird sneeze. When my neck got strained I couldn't move my left should it was like pinched up. Got to a chiropractor and was able to move. I'm not old by any means but they fixed the problem right than and there.
I have mild scoliosis, and when I was on my parents' insurance, I was doing chiropractic, massage, and physical therapy to help alleviate my chronic back pain. My leg lengths were uneven when I got my first adjustment at the chiropractors. They were equal at the end. A lot of tension went away, too. The thing is, a chiropractor can adjust things that are out of place, but unless you correct your posture and build muscles that are under-used, your body will go right back to how it was before.
BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Lots of people just hate on anything that fashionable these days to hate on
I have known chiropractors were not doctors for a very long time. I never will let one touch any part of my body.
Lmao shut up you old coot.
Two and a Half Men taught me that they are not doctors.
My chiropractor fixed my neck and got rid of my leg cramps when physio made my neck worse and my doctor said there was nothing he could do about the cramps.
Placebo
I'm glad you feel better.
Chiropractic didn't do anything.
Placebo is a thing!
Confirmation bias
Rub Voltarin Gel, OTC. Great takes cramps and spasms away in 5 minutes.
When my spine starts hurting every 6 months or so - a trip to the chiropractictor fixes it every time. I don't care if it's, "fake" I stop hurting afterwards.
Imagine if you went to an actual medical doctor that could identify the cause, maybe you could be pain free for good, instead of having to keep getting "treated".
If it's fixing it everytime you wouldn't have to keep going back, go to a doctor if you have chronic pain
@@myopiczealI tried medical doctors for my back pain and was told to stretch and exercise in conjunction with pain medication
The chiropractor told me the same thing but instead of pain meds I got adjusted once a month for temporary pain relief
I’ll take the non medical option if it works
I gotta nail in my tire, but I just air it up every day, problem solved.
@@myopiczealthe cause is almost always a lack of drugs/ surgery. Surely getting doped up and injected is the true cure to your ailment. The medical system is flawless and always helps people through empathetic treatment and deductive reasoning.
I was desperate enough to go to the witch doctor once. They wasted 15 minutes of my life making me watch a video of how incredibly chiropractic is.
IF YOU GAVE TO SELL ME ON THE IDEA YOUR THING IS ACTUALLY REALITY, it’s probably not.
Notice that she also said some chiropractors will stay within Physical Therapy lanes.
I'll just say that I had a football injury in high school that dis-alined a vertebrae in my neck, and after six months of going to pain specialists, a chiropractor noticed the injury and fixed it in half an hour
I make up medical anecdotes on the internet too
In Canada (and as far as I know the US and UK are similar as well), MDs only have *12hrs* of education about the musculoskeletal system *cumulatively*. (If they specialize, that changes of course)
They're often idiots when it comes to musculoskeletal issues and their recommendations reflect it.
Go in for a referral to a PT, add massage therapy for pain management- but check what your local registration requirements are first! Not all MTs are equal, especially if your area has low registration/licensing requirements. Chiro involves a *lot* of education- a doctorate in fact, which is another deceptive tactic. They are *very educated- but the entire modality is based on nonsense. When they're good, they're not doing chiro.
For reference: In Ontario and BC it's well over 2000hrs of education, required practicum, and an exam that runs over multiple days including written and oral practical components. Doesn't mean they're all great, but they at least have education and oversight. Many RMTs are excellent at rehab/chronic conditions.
In the US, it's very different. That's a required, semester long class for anyone going into the medical field.
This is a load of horseshit. Ever sleep a bit wrong and wake up with neck pain? That doesn’t just go away. A lifetime of that stuff and you end up bent over at 70.
got into a car accident, went to chiro for about 20 sessions (2x/wk for about 3-4 months) for my lower back pain, did absolutely nothing. chiropractic is a sham and a scam