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I was disappointed they killed off Kay'lar so quickly. She could have been a very interesting recurring character in addition to adding to Worf's arc. Worf could have been a married man!
She probably died the most honorable death of all Klingons. She stood up to the very traitor of the empire and sought to help restore Worf's honor. Worf's howl to signify a warrior was coming was surely felt throughout the entire galaxy.
@@Spiritof_76 but they both have standards for what it means to be a responsible parent and person. She CHOSE not to tell him when communicating across galaxies takes less effort than to fart, and then decides to make him feel like crap because she blindsided him AFTER declining his sincere desire to marry her. She is a well made character and she tried to find the truth to save Worf’s honor and save the Empire but she is a mercurial jerk more often than anyone would like to admit.
@@Aku9466 Complex characters and scenarios are what make shows interesting. Worf probably had more outside pressures affecting his decisions than any other character in the Star Trek universe. Too many alien characters in later series were just earthlings with forehead make-up. At least the Klingons, Vulcans, and Ferengi had alternative cultural motivations.
@@Spiritof_76 but my critique is of her behavior, not how well the character was made. She was made very well (and I’d argue that a number of the later characters that are human with weird heads are good BECAUSE they are people rather than just someone wearing make up) but the character herself made bad and usually selfish choices. We only had her for 2 episodes but in them she chose to ignore his feelings in two very significant ways.
@@Aku9466 Ho, hum. Whatever. The aliens in Star Trek who just act like humans are boring. It's like watching a soap opera. The aliens who represent different values and behaviors are the interesting ones. Once again, you've judged Klingons by human standards.
"What should I tell Alexander, that he has no father?" "Tell him that his mother kept him secret from his father, then would rather play games than admit what she had done."
@Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr Well personally I found it comprehensible. He probably felt his parents were better equipped for the task of raising a Klingon child than he was.
@Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr He took on the responsibility for ensuring the boy was raised well by giving him to the two people he felt were best equipped for the job. I suspect Wolf felt that he was not able to do as good a job of it himself at that time in his life. The primary responsibility of the parent is to ensure that the wellbeing of the child is taken care of, which is not necessarily the same as raising the child themselves.
But that's not why he was mad. He didn't want to put his Discommendation on his son's life. In another moment in his life he would've been thrilled to have a son. But Worf would never want to bring a Klingon child into this world already dishonored for something he had nothing to do with. He also knows that K'Ehleyr doesn't give the slightest fuck about his dishonor or that tradition. That also irks him to no end, since while he loves her too, he loves Klingon tradition as since he grew up on Earth, tradition is all that really connects him his Klingon heritage. She knows every bit how honorable and good he is, and knows his discommendation is bull shit.
I agree with you BIG time! I consider what the writers did with her, her demise specifically, a disgrace to her character AND the Enterprise! The ship’s computer should have notified the Captain AND Sick Bay of the trauma in her suite!
@@Leadeshipcoach Death has only been beaten in one case that I am aware of. . . . . . .Spock. Very unique situation and EVERYONE involved was willing give everything to bring him back. Ending her character cheated her AND us of enjoying the funnest, most beautiful Klingon woman EVER!
@@Leadeshipcoach Every old character they've brought back in the Picard series - especially Picard himself - has been diminished, tarnished, vandalized. Trek has replaced too many talented writers with too many agenda writers.
@@pwnmeisterage To be fair, they cost less, and Star trek under it's current owners cannot use the same themes and atmosphere of the old shows, that's why it's gone gritty and feels less like the old Star Trek.
I love her performance. (so expressive) She is the perfect combination of vulnerable & unsure contrasted with strong. One moment, she is owning Worf & completely cocky, the next she is clearly nervous and even a bit frightened. Wonderful.
She’s one of the most charismatic and interesting characters on the show, I always remember the little lean she does on the turbolift door when he leaves.
Got to love how she says “should I tell Alexander he has no father?” What like not letting him see his father for 6-8 year kind of didn’t already plant that in him.
He was actually like 1 or 2. Klingons grow much faster than humans. Alexander will be full grown, old enough to join the Klingon Military at about 13 Earth Years.
@@3Rayfire source for this information? Because everything I’m looking at says he was what I said he was. Even if he was 1-3 Klingon which I doubt, he still had the cognitive level of a 6-8 year old human.
@@YTEdy Oh, Susie Q, Baby I love you, Susie Q I like the way you walk. I like the way you talk. I like the way you walk I like the way you talk, Susie Q
K'hleyr seems cruel here, but she can see that there's something wrong with Worf, something that's eating at him, and he's not acting... like Worf. She's trying to get a rise out of him, so he'll rage and let it out, rather than continue to stew and suffer. She doesn't know that he can't, however; she has no idea that he's practically carrying the honour of the Klingon Empire on his shoulders, through his silence. So she's confused when he just keeps blanking her. Later, when Picard does the same, she realises there's more to it than just Worf being anguished.
She knows about Klingon "honour"--unlike Worf, she's been enmeshed within it her entire life. Worf has a romantic view of it because he didn't actually grow up within it. Whereas K'Ehlyr observes later in this clip, "honour" is just an excuse Klingons use to grab for power and influence.
does that come with a side dish of heart of taarg "nuggets" with blood dipping sauce? Imagine the McDonaldsization of Klingon cuisine. Huge scale food manufacturing plants with nugget slurry pumping out of tubes into endless conveyor belt repetitions of single serving size nugget disposable storage containers.
Oh God...to see her and Captain SISKO go back and forth?? THAT would have been a sight to behold! I don't think the whole alpha quadrant had enough space to contain THAT clash of energy!
Worf has a point here. If he has to ask whether the child is his, it would imply that he has reason to believe she has acted dishonorably. It would be like calling his mate a whore. And if the child wasn't his, then she shouldn't have brought it along - it would have been taunting him with his inadequacy. I don't have a clue what she was trying to prove with that statement, "Yes you have to ask." Maybe trying to provoke him into a good hard foreplay slap since he refused to bite her in greeting? But of course, he has too much self-control to give her that satisfaction.
Probably her passive aggressive way of saying “Don’t presume you are the only man I know” But even she couldn’t play coy for long because she straight up tells him later in that scene.
He also has a point because he should know that she had a child by now, if it's his. You leave and withhold information from me and expect me to be the one to ask? Sorry, it's your job to explain... not mine to demean us both by asking.
@@davidsloat1016 Very upsetting how men are separated from their parenthood with all this secreting of conception and such, women wanting all the control. IMO comes from “scarlet letter syndrome” that’s placed onto amorous women to this day. Problem is, women get pregnant so we do bear the brunt of the responsibility. Point blank. Though we persist in blaming men for being detached from their natural fatherhood. Can’t have it both ways. Mixed up and unfair. That being said, insist on DNA and let the actual truth be revealed.
@@yvettemarshallTWN "scarlet letter syndrome" seems to be somewhat the exception rather than the rule at this point. Having children out of wedlock doesn't appear to my eyes to have anywhere near the stigma it used to have. In some cases, it seems like "I want the child, but I don't want the biological father in my life" is now a valid lifestyle choice. Then again, I'm male, so I'm on the outside looking in as it were.
@@davidsloat1016 Yep, unfortunately, still seems like stealing from men, like men and women can do without one another when we can’t. BIOLOGICALLY set up that way. Same sex couples still need the opposite sex to create. Also, for us women it’s more like an unconscious thing (guilty about being just as amorous as a man, not virtuous and immaculate-whore/Madonna-deep religious indoctrination even if not religious- morality comes into play) than conscious. Complex. Also, where is the consideration for the child? Doesn’t he or she deserve to see themselves in their male parent’s eyes? Speaking as a daddy’s girl so I’m partial to that relationship… ☀️
2:25 If K'Ehleyr had only known the exact lengths that K'mpec went to to maintain the peace (including going along with Duras framing Mogh for Khitomer).
This was such a good show. The characters were deep, the plots felt natural and you could totally buy into it. The acting was top notch. Such a great show
"Not even a bite on the cheek for old times' sake?" Yup, Klingon mating and love customs are painful at least, and bloody at worst. See also Dax and Worf and their episodes on the Deep Space 9 station Even Captain Sisko had to ask them to tone it down as he needed his officers to be physically capable of doing their jobs and not need to visit Sick Bay every other day.
Not to mention Quark and Grilka. While Grilka seemed quite satisfied with their post-divorce "encounter", Quark suffered a compound fracture of the right radius, two fractured ribs, torn ligaments, strained tendons, and numerous bruises, contusions, and scratches from their rendezvous.
I really hate how this scene treats Worf as if he's being unreasonable for being upset over not knowing he was a father. I haven't seen my ex-girlfriend in 9 years. If she suddenly popped up back in my life with a kid she had been keeping secret from me, I'd be pretty pissed off too
Loved Susie as K'Ehleyr sm,,, her disdain/annoyance for her people’s culture was soooo palpable “the usual excuses- traditions, duty.. *honor* HAHAHAHHA
There are probably numerous people K'mpec thought were the most Klingon: honorable, courageous, righteous. But in this episode, no such Klingon serves on the High Council. He's only met 2 in recent years who are ideal Klingons: Worf and Picard. He can't ask Worf to do anything without immediately starting a war, so that leaves Picard.
Suzie Plakson...absolute stunning at every role❣ As Klingon Ambassador, she added a level of depth The Empire and The Federation that should have been explored to a greater degree. That liaison is still open-ended, even if her character was killed.
It does not matter what she did. If Worf has a son, and he does not act according to it after he knows it… makes him less then warrior, less than a men and less then a tribbel!
@@AWriterWandering sure but a normal person also probably would’ve called or perhaps sent a message through sub space when she finds out she’s pregnant, rather than surprising them with a fully grown child
Impractical and ultimately unhealthy adherence to traditions for tradition's sake meets impractical and ultimately unhealthy adherence to playing social games for playing social games' sake - a recipe for relationship disaster!
A philosophical comment came to mind of the epidemic of fatherlessness reflected in this episode. Back when we had religion, everyone always had a father, a paternal archetype to look up to & have a personal relationship with. Perhaps this was a valuable social benefit mechanism we have naively thrown away.
It’s good to see that advanced civilizations…..those who can travel faster than the speed of light. Can’t escape the reality of homes without fathers. Worf will always be “baby daddy”.
What I like about the scene is that nothing between these two is clear-cut. Kheylr wants Worf to engage with her way of doing things, which Worf is diametrically opposed to, but they care enough about each other to be upset with each other, each for their own reasons. That's what makes good dramatic stakes. There were a million ways that exchange could have been poorly written, directed, or acted, and it all comes off razor-edged. It's such a simple exchange that has very little to do with space trekking, and everything to do with how Worf and Kheylr feel about each other and Klingon culture in general.
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Excuse me, but if I may ask what is the name of the actor playing that sexy Klingon woman?
@@blakjack3053 memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/K%27Ehleyr
@@blakjack3053 Suzie Plakson
Suzie Plakson killed it as K'Ehleyr. She was tall and proud, as fierce as anyone but had a bit of Loki to her. Plus she was a total smokeshow.
I wanted duras my ownelf, I claim the Right of vengeance
A damned fine woman.
Complete smokeshow.
She's a tall drink of water.
They should not have killed her character off. A lot of potential.
What's a smokeshow? I've never heard of that expression.
I was disappointed they killed off Kay'lar so quickly. She could have been a very interesting recurring character in addition to adding to Worf's arc. Worf could have been a married man!
She was a good character
I love seeing these two but I’m still partial to jadzia owning worf in their encounter on DS9.
Yeah, but as Worf said, he's _not_ a merry man. 😅
sexiest klingon ever to walk the earth AND would have been a terrific permanent cast member. huge loss.
Worf WAS a married man...
When it comes to two-year-old Alexander, Lt. Worf, you *ARE* the father!
Worf: "Aww Beans!"
Oh, noooo! Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!
This was good!
Mau-ry! Mau-ry! Mau-ry!
I want to see K'Ehleyr doing that victory dance.
She probably died the most honorable death of all Klingons. She stood up to the very traitor of the empire and sought to help restore Worf's honor. Worf's howl to signify a warrior was coming was surely felt throughout the entire galaxy.
Yep. It's amazing that the 2 best Klingons are a half Klingon / half Human and a full Klingon that was raised by humans.
Agreed! I love how she was a warrior, just not with fists and blades.
@@davidsloat1016That's because neither of them take being Klingon for granted.
“Should I tell Alexander that he has no father?”
You made that decision when you didn’t tell Worf that he even WAS a father, lady.
They have reasons for what they do. Klingon culture is not human culture.
@@Spiritof_76 but they both have standards for what it means to be a responsible parent and person. She CHOSE not to tell him when communicating across galaxies takes less effort than to fart, and then decides to make him feel like crap because she blindsided him AFTER declining his sincere desire to marry her. She is a well made character and she tried to find the truth to save Worf’s honor and save the Empire but she is a mercurial jerk more often than anyone would like to admit.
@@Aku9466 Complex characters and scenarios are what make shows interesting. Worf probably had more outside pressures affecting his decisions than any other character in the Star Trek universe.
Too many alien characters in later series were just earthlings with forehead make-up. At least the Klingons, Vulcans, and Ferengi had alternative cultural motivations.
@@Spiritof_76 but my critique is of her behavior, not how well the character was made. She was made very well (and I’d argue that a number of the later characters that are human with weird heads are good BECAUSE they are people rather than just someone wearing make up) but the character herself made bad and usually selfish choices. We only had her for 2 episodes but in them she chose to ignore his feelings in two very significant ways.
@@Aku9466 Ho, hum. Whatever. The aliens in Star Trek who just act like humans are boring. It's like watching a soap opera. The aliens who represent different values and behaviors are the interesting ones. Once again, you've judged Klingons by human standards.
K'Ehleyr: Not even a bite on the cheek for old time sakes
Worf: bend over
Worf like gonna not talk about traditions in French..is not my tradition
😂😂😂😂
"What should I tell Alexander, that he has no father?"
"Tell him that his mother kept him secret from his father, then would rather play games than admit what she had done."
You got it right!..but our feminist society would never admit it!
@Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr In his defense it was all pretty sudden
@Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr Well personally I found it comprehensible. He probably felt his parents were better equipped for the task of raising a Klingon child than he was.
@Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr He took on the responsibility for ensuring the boy was raised well by giving him to the two people he felt were best equipped for the job. I suspect Wolf felt that he was not able to do as good a job of it himself at that time in his life. The primary responsibility of the parent is to ensure that the wellbeing of the child is taken care of, which is not necessarily the same as raising the child themselves.
What should you tell him? I recommend "GOODBYE!"
If I were Worf and my lover did that to me, I'd be pissed too. Worf had EVERY reason to be upset at K'Ehleyr.
Klingon culture and traditions are not the same as humans, and Worf was in a cultural bind with his family's place in Klingon history already.
But that's not why he was mad. He didn't want to put his Discommendation on his son's life. In another moment in his life he would've been thrilled to have a son. But Worf would never want to bring a Klingon child into this world already dishonored for something he had nothing to do with. He also knows that K'Ehleyr doesn't give the slightest fuck about his dishonor or that tradition. That also irks him to no end, since while he loves her too, he loves Klingon tradition as since he grew up on Earth, tradition is all that really connects him his Klingon heritage. She knows every bit how honorable and good he is, and knows his discommendation is bull shit.
@@3Rayfire Thanks so much for this excellent summary.
That side eye was lethal grade, he could've taken out a Borg Cube with that glare when she said Honor.
One of the finest female Klingon characters I've ever seen and she wasn't a long-term kind.. such a pity.
I agree with you BIG time! I consider what the writers did with her, her demise specifically, a disgrace to her character AND the Enterprise! The ship’s computer should have notified the Captain AND Sick Bay of the trauma in her suite!
One of the characters I wish they would figure out how to bring back...in the Picard series.
@@Leadeshipcoach Death has only been beaten in one case that I am aware of. . . . . . .Spock. Very unique situation and EVERYONE involved was willing give everything to bring him back. Ending her character cheated her AND us of enjoying the funnest, most beautiful Klingon woman EVER!
@@Leadeshipcoach Every old character they've brought back in the Picard series - especially Picard himself - has been diminished, tarnished, vandalized. Trek has replaced too many talented writers with too many agenda writers.
@@pwnmeisterage To be fair, they cost less, and Star trek under it's current owners cannot use the same themes and atmosphere of the old shows, that's why it's gone gritty and feels less like the old Star Trek.
I love her performance. (so expressive) She is the perfect combination of vulnerable & unsure contrasted with strong.
One moment, she is owning Worf & completely cocky, the next she is clearly nervous and even a bit frightened. Wonderful.
She’s one of the most charismatic and interesting characters on the show, I always remember the little lean she does on the turbolift door when he leaves.
"Not even a bite on the cheek for old time's sake?" I guess this was her way of "breaking the ice(man)"
"Not even a bite on the cheek for old time's sake?"
Also, she is seriously tall.
Yeah never thought about how tall she was until now!
Turns out she was 6'1 IRL
@@TheRunningPigeon I mean if you're gonna cast a recurring female Klingon character, she better be built for the part!
@@TheRunningPigeon She is still 6'1". she is alive and 63 years old.
@@davidbrogan606 well, to be fair, you don't know if she's still 6'1. People shrink as they get older
@@ConwayFreelanceDetective Well, since you ask, I went up to Buffalo where she is living and I personally measured her. She is 6' 1-1/4" tall.
Got to love how she says “should I tell Alexander he has no father?” What like not letting him see his father for 6-8 year kind of didn’t already plant that in him.
Would love to see her do a panel with Terry Ferrel and Nicole talking about working and such with Michael Dorn
He was actually like 1 or 2. Klingons grow much faster than humans. Alexander will be full grown, old enough to join the Klingon Military at about 13 Earth Years.
@@3Rayfire source for this information? Because everything I’m looking at says he was what I said he was. Even if he was 1-3 Klingon which I doubt, he still had the cognitive level of a 6-8 year old human.
@@3Rayfire I wouldn’t doubt Klingons taking 13 year olds for war. It’s what they do.
female logic seems to be the same even in Kilngon's.
Even with the heavy prothetic make-up, Suzie Plakson who played K'Ehleyr was/is an absolutely gorgeous lady.
No "Q"uestion about that!
All 6’2” of her!
@@axjohn Tall cool drink of Paradise.
A long stemmed rose.
@@kurtsnyder4752 he he. I see what you did there.
(For those who didn't get it, she played a Q on Voyager)
@@YTEdy Oh, Susie Q, Baby I love you, Susie Q I like the way you walk. I like the way you talk. I like the way you walk I like the way you talk, Susie Q
K'hleyr seems cruel here, but she can see that there's something wrong with Worf, something that's eating at him, and he's not acting... like Worf. She's trying to get a rise out of him, so he'll rage and let it out, rather than continue to stew and suffer.
She doesn't know that he can't, however; she has no idea that he's practically carrying the honour of the Klingon Empire on his shoulders, through his silence. So she's confused when he just keeps blanking her. Later, when Picard does the same, she realises there's more to it than just Worf being anguished.
Women who know they got you around they finger do it like that. You jus gotta home they really love you, like she loves worf.
She knows about Klingon "honour"--unlike Worf, she's been enmeshed within it her entire life. Worf has a romantic view of it because he didn't actually grow up within it. Whereas K'Ehlyr observes later in this clip, "honour" is just an excuse Klingons use to grab for power and influence.
She is a beautiful Klingon. They should have allowed her character to live and have many other adventures.
Suzie Plakson also acted in both Voyager and Enterprise series
@@davidbrogan606 Thank you for that.
"War over what?"
"Someone cut someone else in line at the gagh bar."
does that come with a side dish of heart of taarg "nuggets" with blood dipping sauce? Imagine the McDonaldsization of Klingon cuisine. Huge scale food manufacturing plants with nugget slurry pumping out of tubes into endless conveyor belt repetitions of single serving size nugget disposable storage containers.
She was among my favorite characters in TNG, imagine if she was added to DS-9 once the Klingons became integral to the show.
How would that have worked? She died in this episode.
Oh God...to see her and Captain SISKO go back and forth?? THAT would have been a sight to behold! I don't think the whole alpha quadrant had enough space to contain THAT clash of energy!
Worf has a point here. If he has to ask whether the child is his, it would imply that he has reason to believe she has acted dishonorably. It would be like calling his mate a whore. And if the child wasn't his, then she shouldn't have brought it along - it would have been taunting him with his inadequacy.
I don't have a clue what she was trying to prove with that statement, "Yes you have to ask." Maybe trying to provoke him into a good hard foreplay slap since he refused to bite her in greeting? But of course, he has too much self-control to give her that satisfaction.
Probably her passive aggressive way of saying “Don’t presume you are the only man I know”
But even she couldn’t play coy for long because she straight up tells him later in that scene.
He also has a point because he should know that she had a child by now, if it's his.
You leave and withhold information from me and expect me to be the one to ask? Sorry, it's your job to explain... not mine to demean us both by asking.
@@davidsloat1016 Very upsetting how men are separated from their parenthood with all this secreting of conception and such, women wanting all the control. IMO comes from “scarlet letter syndrome” that’s placed onto amorous women to this day. Problem is, women get pregnant so we do bear the brunt of the responsibility. Point blank. Though we persist in blaming men for being detached from their natural fatherhood. Can’t have it both ways. Mixed up and unfair. That being said, insist on DNA and let the actual truth be revealed.
@@yvettemarshallTWN "scarlet letter syndrome" seems to be somewhat the exception rather than the rule at this point. Having children out of wedlock doesn't appear to my eyes to have anywhere near the stigma it used to have. In some cases, it seems like "I want the child, but I don't want the biological father in my life" is now a valid lifestyle choice.
Then again, I'm male, so I'm on the outside looking in as it were.
@@davidsloat1016 Yep, unfortunately, still seems like stealing from men, like men and women can do without one another when we can’t. BIOLOGICALLY set up that way. Same sex couples still need the opposite sex to create. Also, for us women it’s more like an unconscious thing (guilty about being just as amorous as a man, not virtuous and immaculate-whore/Madonna-deep religious indoctrination even if not religious- morality comes into play) than conscious. Complex. Also, where is the consideration for the child? Doesn’t he or she deserve to see themselves in their male parent’s eyes? Speaking as a daddy’s girl so I’m partial to that relationship… ☀️
Killing this chatacter was the worst decision in Star Trek history. Then we got Worf and Counselor Troi?!
"Kimpec was old and weak I am not!!"
I really like Suzie Plakson. She also briefly played a vulcan named Lt. Selar in the earlier episodes of TNG. Good actress.
"The TNG episode "The Schizoid Man" (I didn't even Google it)
Dr. Selar.
She also played one of the blue people in Enterprise.
@@anonygent Tarah the Andorian lieutenant.
Dammit, I got all comfortable to watch the whole episode and was just reminded it was only a small clip. Damn I miss Star Trek next Gen.
They killed her off WAAAAY to early. She was amazing
I have always really like that little smile of hers.
2:25 If K'Ehleyr had only known the exact lengths that K'mpec went to to maintain the peace (including going along with Duras framing Mogh for Khitomer).
K'Ehleyr was a dangerous character, she could have taken the show to where a 13 year old could no longer understand it.
Suzie Plakson has played many parts on at least 3 Star Trek series. She always does a great job.
This was such a good show. The characters were deep, the plots felt natural and you could totally buy into it. The acting was top notch. Such a great show
"Not even a bite on the cheek for old times' sake?"
Yup, Klingon mating and love customs are painful at least, and bloody at worst.
See also Dax and Worf and their episodes on the Deep Space 9 station
Even Captain Sisko had to ask them to tone it down as he needed his officers to be physically capable of doing their jobs
and not need to visit Sick Bay every other day.
Not to mention Quark and Grilka. While Grilka seemed quite satisfied with their post-divorce "encounter", Quark suffered a compound fracture of the right radius, two fractured ribs, torn ligaments, strained tendons, and numerous bruises, contusions, and scratches from their rendezvous.
Her hiding Alexander from Worf would only be sympathetic if she cared about discommodation. That she didn’t made it downright cruel.
In retrospect I can see a bit in common between her and Jadzia with her playful sass when shes flirting with him, maybe Worf has a type
OH yeah. Troi was a sass queen too though not quite in the league with Jadzia or K'ehyler.
That fits with his romantic advice to Wesley in another episode.
Half-breeds. He fell for several.
I really hate how this scene treats Worf as if he's being unreasonable for being upset over not knowing he was a father.
I haven't seen my ex-girlfriend in 9 years. If she suddenly popped up back in my life with a kid she had been keeping secret from me, I'd be pretty pissed off too
Loved Susie as K'Ehleyr sm,,, her disdain/annoyance for her people’s culture was soooo palpable “the usual excuses- traditions, duty.. *honor* HAHAHAHHA
Worf's life is about to get complicated...
What do you mean "about"? 😅
A series about Worf and Data in their early years would be interesting.
This actress was also on Star Trek Voyager as a member of the Q continuum .
I love how Klingon's are all like "FOR DEATH AND GLORY!", but in romantic relationships they are just as human as you can get.
Plakson nails it!!! Robert Riley was awesome as Gowron too!!
Whoever named the boy Alexander definitely did not respect Klingon traditions
K'Elyer named him after a human general and conqueror.
@@BrotherDerrick3X This. About the only general and conqueror better than him was Genghis Kahn. But Temujin doens't have the same flare in English.
"Alexsandr" I believe...
@@m0osefist But "Khan, son of Worf" does have a certain flare which "Alexander" lacks.
She's half human.
Even my mum, who claimed she didn't like Star Trek liked K'eylehr. She was quite upset when she died.
My dad on the other hand... ahem... :D
There are probably numerous people K'mpec thought were the most Klingon: honorable, courageous, righteous. But in this episode, no such Klingon serves on the High Council. He's only met 2 in recent years who are ideal Klingons: Worf and Picard. He can't ask Worf to do anything without immediately starting a war, so that leaves Picard.
Suzie Plaxton is just stupid beautiful.
Instant crush when she appeared on screen.
Commander Ro as well.
Worf and K'Ehleyr. Those two were something else. Classic example of opposites attract.
Kimpack is dying?
Perhaps he needs to recharge his Kim Pack?
by binge-watching Kim Cardassian?
@@fariesz6786 Say what you want, she can charge my batteries any time!
Well, at least she didn’t hit him up for back child support, so Worf dodged that particular bullet.
The size of Alexanders head worries me Worf
She did do Worf dirty...in more ways than one.
I never realized that the actress who played K'Ehleyr was the same person who played the female Q. No idea how I missed that.
Suzie Plakson is amazing but can we please take moment and appreciate Ron Jones incredible score 1:23 ?
Suzie instantly became my crush with every character she played on anything
I always thought Mrs. Worf was smoking hot.
She was even hotter on Star Trek Voyager as Mrs. Q.
She was also amazing as Miss Q. Terrific actress.
"honor" looks at wolf like he's a potato! OMG laughed so hard
Susie Plaxson played a good looking Klingon woman. Never saw one in the series.
She also played a female Q on voyager
Suzie Plakson...absolute stunning at every role❣ As Klingon Ambassador, she added a level of depth The Empire and The Federation that should have been explored to a greater degree. That liaison is still open-ended, even if her character was killed.
If you think about it, the Klingons are always in the midst of a civil war.
The fact that they got some gorgous tall chick to dress up like a klingon is badass by itself.
She’s the most unklingon I’ve ever seen.
She’s half human so it makes sense kinda
@@KC_Smooth so was Spock. No excuse. I bet she’s cute in rl though.
@@TheSithLord Spock was raised on Vulcan... so he was taught to be the perfect Vulcan.
Shes an ambassador using her power to baby trap Worf
Its reducilous when you know this behaviour from your mom..you talk with me like my mommy..dreams come true..so hot
It's scenes like this that make TNG so memorable. In a decade nobody will remember STD, but this...
Dunno. STD has its moments. Mostly Empress Giourgiu and Killy lol.
I will always remember T'Kuvma's opening speech ... those whose fatal greeting is "We Come in Peace!"
Her reaction at 1.40 shows she knows she messed up there, it was a delicate situation for them both
Don't forget, Suzie Plakson was also Q in an episode of Voyager.
Everyone in Worf's orbit eats a shit sandwich in the end! Avoid him at all costs.
I miss these shows. I need to get the entire series and watch them again
Dear Lord, the Klingons now have soccer moms.........the empire is doomed
It does not matter what she did. If Worf has a son, and he does not act according to it after he knows it… makes him less then warrior, less than a men and less then a tribbel!
Her presence must make Worf totally drop the pain of his discommendation, through that contrast.
You wonder why Worf, who’s so serious as a Klingon, wouldn’t be put off by a very human-behaving K’Ehleyr.
The old 'Forest Gump Junior' move of not telling the father sooner.
Wow I never realized until just now how many episodes of season 4 were dedicated to family.
I really liked her.
The combination of softness and strength/intelligence.
I’m sorry, is she really the one guilting HIM in this situation?
women amirite?
Worf’s self isolation is part of the Klingon tradition that she despises. She just wants him to talk to her like a normal person.
@@AWriterWandering sure but a normal person also probably would’ve called or perhaps sent a message through sub space when she finds out she’s pregnant, rather than surprising them with a fully grown child
mandatory paternity tests@birth
@@khandallah4725 We’re talking about Klingons here. A paternity test almost certainly involves a duel to the death
Impractical and ultimately unhealthy adherence to traditions for tradition's sake meets impractical and ultimately unhealthy adherence to playing social games for playing social games' sake - a recipe for relationship disaster!
Maury: "Worf you are the father!"
Work could have easily run a DNA scan and had his answer without having to ask that question.
@5:00...(Worf)..."Not now, I have a MASSIVE headache."
watch out klingon ship, a giant orb of beans just appeared by ya rocket gun!
Just looked it up Suzie Plakson is 6' 2" tall.
I was so bummed when they killed K'Ehlayr. The character was awesome, though I love any of Susie Plakson's roles.
Where are the doors in my life that open behind me and give me the same chance of escape, as Worf did, when asked questions like this?! 😁
That is one mighty fine Klingon
Gorgeous klingon.
A philosophical comment came to mind of the epidemic of fatherlessness reflected in this episode. Back when we had religion, everyone always had a father, a paternal archetype to look up to & have a personal relationship with. Perhaps this was a valuable social benefit mechanism we have naively thrown away.
RIP Jon Paul Steuer
It’s good to see that advanced civilizations…..those who can travel faster than the speed of light. Can’t escape the reality of homes without fathers. Worf will always be “baby daddy”.
What I like about the scene is that nothing between these two is clear-cut. Kheylr wants Worf to engage with her way of doing things, which Worf is diametrically opposed to, but they care enough about each other to be upset with each other, each for their own reasons. That's what makes good dramatic stakes. There were a million ways that exchange could have been poorly written, directed, or acted, and it all comes off razor-edged. It's such a simple exchange that has very little to do with space trekking, and everything to do with how Worf and Kheylr feel about each other and Klingon culture in general.
Susie Plackson has been drop dead gorgeous since the beginning of time!
....not even a bite on the cheek for ol time sake.......
Worf left her hanging like a bowse!
COULD WE NOT HAVE THE PIANO AT THE END?
A gorgeous alien
K'Ehleyr is one my faves. Named my black cat after her. She us just as fiesty
thanks for the memories
In the RPG that I have with my friend my character is going to babysit aleksandr tomorrow.
Thank you!
Worf has such wonderful and terrible luck with the females of any species.
I find it hard to believe anyone over the age of 10 could watch this, shows you the state we’re actually in as a society.
Must I ask the question... Good lord, didn't anyone here subscribe? Thank you.
Klingon sounds like Russia of the future