That wasn't also an upgraded Paternoster, was it? The up arrow at the top is a hint of how to jump the queue if there's a long one waiting for cars heading down... ⬇😉⬆
This lift looks like it has been modernised around the early/mid 80's. The hall fixtures indicate this was installed late 60's early 70's. I think originally this would of been a 10 UCL controller. The car station panel Inner door and several landing architraves have all been replaced. I reckon it was upgraded to an Otis Gamma controller possibly Ms300 as per 7 segment car station indicator.
Yes, those vacuum fluorescent displays didn't fit in with the original design so had an idea things were not completely original. This doesn't have a leveling speed, more of a gradual drop in speed until reaching the landing - as you say, a 10UCL (does 10 mean up to 10 floors?) controller would not cater for this. Would this be the gamma controller's involvement to vary frequency to motor to control this? And one last question - is the 7-seg display connected directly to a Gamma controller or is it triggered via outputs (e.g. output 1 activates=G lights, output 2 activates, 1 lights, etc)?
mrmattandmrchay Matt, 10UCL were a standard early Otis controller. The old footage of the 34 floor firemans lift at E towers was a 10UCL. The 21 UCL was more advanced. The very early gammas were usually 2 speed. They had a rack of boards at the top a very primitive test tool to access limited functions talking leds for feedback information rather than lcd display. No vf involved. The gamma then evolved to start including drive units and the Otis MS300 pcb from the mid/late 80's. Buttons on the Ms300 pcb (1+2) allowed you to programme and input parameters. The display was fired from one of the rack of boards on the early version.
+mrmattandmrchay 10 UCL label on an OTIS controller designates as follows 10 is the size of the main contactors the next size up was 21 then 73. U denotes the system as UMV i.e unit multi voltage (DC). C designates that the system is a fully collective type. L denotes that the lift has a levelling facility. Others were N (AC) motor. 6 denotes 6 wires in the motor (3 High speed and 3 low speed) B which means that the system is push button and not collective. I means the lift is single speed. So in conclusion if the label on the controller is NIBL it is a single speed AC machine with push button control and a levelling facility.
I definitely could hear the relays for the leveling also which means it's completely original, and that weird sound I think is the floor lamp but it's somehow damaged and the current is living something up it shouldn't be doing :D unless it is supposed to make a noise
The parking structure is mid 80s, likely built as a part of the redevelopment of Camberley town centre around that same time. Before the present _Main Square_ enclosed shopping centre, the town centre was open to the air with some very 60s „Pagodas“ doted around it. The lifts were probably contracted for in the early 80s, and Otis probably pre-built and stored them for delivery upon request. 😇
Now THAT'S a lift. Must have been from the late 70's seeing as it has a digital segment indicator, which I have seen on 70's OTIS's in New Zealand from the late 70's, but sadly the one of those lifts that I actually filmed have now been modernised.
Probably from the early 1980s. I like the relay sounds. Looks like the lantern was installed upside down on the top floor. Interesting that there is only a down button on the intermediate floors. Where was that sound coming from on the 2nd floor? The lantern? The car top? The car station? Or somewhere else? Is it the nudge mode buzzer? I would think nudge mode would sound different?
I thought it as nudge mode sounder, but it seems to be on the outside of the lift. Strange isn't it? It's as if someone has connected a sounder of some kind to the hall lantern.
Probably due for an upgrade or unable to repair due to lack of parts. They probably considered that with the other 3 lifts in the main block, is this lift still required. Cheaper to turn it off and board it up rather than spent thousands upgrading it unnecessarily.
@@mrmattandmrchay Yes they have plenty of lifts in the other block, although they really should've kept this lift, as any disabled person wanting to go down to the high street on the ground floor now has an extra walk. It would have been better to just do a logic replacement, which would cost nowhere near as much. If it's maintained by the shopping centre, fair enough, but if it's maintained by the council, that was a bad idea.
Yeah I know Joe :) There are a few reasons, but the main one is because there are so few old lifts around these days - these are very interesting for me and I don't really film modern day stuff. About 4-5 years ago I used to love visiting town centres are searching around - most of the time I'd find something to film. Now, well, even our old O&K lifts in tesco have been modernised and I've just about filmed everything else. Yes, there are old lifts out there, but WHERE lol! Benobve seems to find loads of stuff but I just can't really dedicate the time to go searching like I used to. And the ratio of "number of visits" compared to "finding old stuff" is going fast towards "loads of visits" and "hardly any old stuff"!! I do have a couple of videos coming though - I'll let you know when I've posted them - one of them is "Genuine 1980s lifts collection" - there is a bit of a twist to the video, but they are definately all from the early 1980s :D Thanks for your comment Joe :) Matt
So, these lifts look creepy, say someone got into one of them and got stuck half way and suppose a ghost also got in with you but will only disturb you until the lift is stuck ;-D
No it isn't. Old lifts are amazing, and not to mention interesting. Most of us lift enthusiasts are preservationists. We like to keep lifts original for as long as possible.
Alex Ellis alloria There's not many left now, which is why I can't find much to film these days. HOWEVER, coming soon is my PURE 80s GENUINE LIFT VIDEO - Unmodernised definately 80s not doubt about it lol. I've got to edit it, but should be wicked!!
mrmattandmrchay Surprise surprise - it did have that annoying beep - if the beep is gone after the modernisation, then that would be the only good thing about the mod :/ Probably Lester Controls
i finally found this video that i was looking for years, it has been like a year that i tried to find this video again AND I FINALLY FOUND IT :D
ah cool! I've just changed the name of the video btw.
"I love it when my lift speaks to me naughty" -MrMatt probably
My middle school Dover Impulse had that same logic with the up arrow on the top floor😂
That wasn't also an upgraded Paternoster, was it? The up arrow at the top is a hint of how to jump the queue if there's a long one waiting for cars heading down... ⬇😉⬆
This lift looks like it has been modernised around the early/mid 80's. The hall fixtures indicate this was installed late 60's early 70's. I think originally this would of been a 10 UCL controller. The car station panel Inner door and several landing architraves have all been replaced. I reckon it was upgraded to an Otis Gamma controller possibly Ms300 as per 7 segment car station indicator.
Yes, those vacuum fluorescent displays didn't fit in with the original design so had an idea things were not completely original. This doesn't have a leveling speed, more of a gradual drop in speed until reaching the landing - as you say, a 10UCL (does 10 mean up to 10 floors?) controller would not cater for this. Would this be the gamma controller's involvement to vary frequency to motor to control this?
And one last question - is the 7-seg display connected directly to a Gamma controller or is it triggered via outputs (e.g. output 1 activates=G lights, output 2 activates, 1 lights, etc)?
mrmattandmrchay
Matt, 10UCL were a standard early Otis controller. The old footage of the 34 floor firemans lift at E towers was a 10UCL. The 21 UCL was more advanced. The very early gammas were usually 2 speed. They had a rack of boards at the top a very primitive test tool to access limited functions talking leds for feedback information rather than lcd display. No vf involved. The gamma then evolved to start including drive units and the Otis MS300 pcb from the mid/late 80's. Buttons on the Ms300 pcb (1+2) allowed you to programme and input parameters. The display was fired from one of the rack of boards on the early version.
+mrmattandmrchay 10 UCL label on an OTIS controller designates as follows 10 is the size of the main contactors the next size up was 21 then 73. U denotes the system as UMV i.e unit multi voltage (DC). C designates that the system is a fully collective type. L denotes that the lift has a levelling facility. Others were N (AC) motor. 6 denotes 6 wires in the motor (3 High speed and 3 low speed) B which means that the system is push button and not collective. I means the lift is single speed. So in conclusion if the label on the controller is NIBL it is a single speed AC machine with push button control and a levelling facility.
I definitely could hear the relays for the leveling also which means it's completely original, and that weird sound I think is the floor lamp but it's somehow damaged and the current is living something up it shouldn't be doing :D unless it is supposed to make a noise
Noooooooooooooo! bloody scary lift!!! ;) Thanx mrmattandmrchay xxx
Nice otis lift. Best of the best elite. Long live otis.
Probably from the early 80s (indicator used in OTIS's lifts from 80s-1995 and buttons used on their lifts from 1970s-early 80s).
The parking structure is mid 80s, likely built as a part of the redevelopment of Camberley town centre around that same time. Before the present _Main Square_ enclosed shopping centre, the town centre was open to the air with some very 60s „Pagodas“ doted around it. The lifts were probably contracted for in the early 80s, and Otis probably pre-built and stored them for delivery upon request. 😇
Maybe this was at one time very grotty and it was just modernised at a later time and was somewhat brought up to date
Im surprized 5 worked even though the light was blinking like that
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M.C.P Outside of the lift door on the 5th floor
Interesting that this lift uses Series 1 indicator, even though the rest of the fixtures are vintage 70s OTIS.
Noticed that as well, very unusual!
I didn't see an emergency telephone or intercom if the lift gets stuck.
Now THAT'S a lift. Must have been from the late 70's seeing as it has a digital segment indicator, which I have seen on 70's OTIS's in New Zealand from the late 70's, but sadly the one of those lifts that I actually filmed have now been modernised.
+Alex Ellis (NZ Lifts and Transport) or they could have been a later mod also the outer call buttons look late 60s or mid 70s
Oof this one is now abandoned.
Probably from the early 1980s. I like the relay sounds. Looks like the lantern was installed upside down on the top floor. Interesting that there is only a down button on the intermediate floors. Where was that sound coming from on the 2nd floor? The lantern? The car top? The car station? Or somewhere else? Is it the nudge mode buzzer? I would think nudge mode would sound different?
I thought it as nudge mode sounder, but it seems to be on the outside of the lift. Strange isn't it? It's as if someone has connected a sounder of some kind to the hall lantern.
The doors do stick out of the wall like a sore thumb when opened that can be a hazard for a really big person
Looks like a hamton champness because of the inside buttons but Im not sure because Im from the US
I’ve seen a lift in Leicester that looks like that but I’m not sure if it would of originally been an Otis the door still has a window in it.
huh wierd when it opens on the 2nd floor it sets off the fire alarm or something like that
Isn't there a broadmoor siren up there?
This Camberley dude? Love the main lift :)
Miles Saunders yes this is camberly in fact this is the parking garage with the broadmoor siren on top of it
@@seanjuth Not quite, the modded lifts have a siren on top, however the siren has actually recently been removed, and this lift has been boarded up.
What? Up lantern on a top floor? Also I’ve never seen a lexan button in place of black button
Nice to find elevator... What the heck?... What' s sound coming from?... Sound like busted for security alerts isn't, huh?? 😓
AAAAH so this is the boarded up lift we saw about a week ago! I wonder if they boarded it up because of it breaking?
Probably due for an upgrade or unable to repair due to lack of parts. They probably considered that with the other 3 lifts in the main block, is this lift still required. Cheaper to turn it off and board it up rather than spent thousands upgrading it unnecessarily.
@@mrmattandmrchay Yes they have plenty of lifts in the other block, although they really should've kept this lift, as any disabled person wanting to go down to the high street on the ground floor now has an extra walk. It would have been better to just do a logic replacement, which would cost nowhere near as much. If it's maintained by the shopping centre, fair enough, but if it's maintained by the council, that was a bad idea.
To mrmattandmrchay In which year did you change the name of the video of the old Otis lift in Camberley?
I've absolutely no idea :)
Does it still exist?
Beautiful. Where is this at?
Now boarded up at the main square car park in Camberley.
Is it still boarded up in 2024?
Trains
How come you dont upload as much as you used to?
Yeah I know Joe :) There are a few reasons, but the main one is because there are so few old lifts around these days - these are very interesting for me and I don't really film modern day stuff.
About 4-5 years ago I used to love visiting town centres are searching around - most of the time I'd find something to film. Now, well, even our old O&K lifts in tesco have been modernised and I've just about filmed everything else.
Yes, there are old lifts out there, but WHERE lol! Benobve seems to find loads of stuff but I just can't really dedicate the time to go searching like I used to. And the ratio of "number of visits" compared to "finding old stuff" is going fast towards "loads of visits" and "hardly any old stuff"!!
I do have a couple of videos coming though - I'll let you know when I've posted them - one of them is "Genuine 1980s lifts collection" - there is a bit of a twist to the video, but they are definately all from the early 1980s :D
Thanks for your comment Joe :) Matt
Was this after the siren testing
So, these lifts look creepy, say someone got into one of them and got stuck half way and suppose a ghost also got in with you but will only disturb you until the lift is stuck ;-D
Happy whacky elevator day! XD
I'll share that opinion! :)
Hang on...wasn't there a siren here to warn people of an escaped mental patient from the Broadmoor Hospital?
+stampycatfan01 Yep, this one... ruclips.net/video/pxQ0be3s4NY/видео.html
+mrmattandmr
yas there is
That lift is in dire need of modernisation!
No it isn't. Old lifts are amazing, and not to mention interesting. Most of us lift enthusiasts are preservationists. We like to keep lifts original for as long as possible.
Alex Ellis I know that! I was just trying to be funny.
Alex Ellis alloria There's not many left now, which is why I can't find much to film these days. HOWEVER, coming soon is my PURE 80s GENUINE LIFT VIDEO - Unmodernised definately 80s not doubt about it lol. I've got to edit it, but should be wicked!!
alloria
Well it wasn't "funny".
Alex Ellis hey take it easy guys :) I like comments, but please let's not get into a long thread here. Friends? Please? :)
Otis Europa 2001
Gone now 😭
Glad I filmed it when I did ;)
Yep good job you’re out there documenting all these lifts/places so that we can still “visit” them even after they disappear!
How they gone???
@@philipssecurityates4931 Abandoned.
@@MichalM 😔
Modernised yet?
I think it has been - they were modernising the main lifts when I was there on a future visit, so this must have gone by now
mrmattandmrchay Surprise surprise - it did have that annoying beep - if the beep is gone after the modernisation, then that would be the only good thing about the mod :/ Probably Lester Controls
@@mrmattandmrchay I can answer my own question now Lol.
shity lift down call station with up arrow
Does it still exist?
Does it still exist ?
no, it was boarded up.