In addition to the aspect of toxic positivity I interpreted part of the song in a darker aspect where people can hijack your existence. I've often times found myself in a dark place and often times get guilt tripped back into living. And while I in no way condone offing oneself I do understand what its like to be in an awful place near choosing that option. It gets to a point where trying to live for yourself is impossible and you live for other people but not because you want to but because they make you in a way. You get bullied into feeling bad for even so much as considering the option and that you're selfish for thinking about yourself when no one else did.
This comment hits way too close to home. It's something my mother did to me. I'm alive now because of that guilt and shame that I would ever possibly take my own life knowing what it would do to others, but its been difficult for years trying to figure out what I want or who I am. Maybe my experience is different, but I still relate to this here. Thank you.
@@hawkishere1709 I'd say that's pretty spot on in experience tbh, maybe not my mom specifically but through many people in general I guess. Sucks being treated like you have to be a puppet to the will of others.
For me, I choose to keep going out of a self imposed feeling of duty for my loved ones, and when I'm not loathing myself, my mistakes become a source of pride
@@poopyshit_2 Ironic, cause now the Calamity comunity considers Roar of the Jungle Dragon and Brutal Stained Calamity some of the best songs in the mod
@@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 None of this is about Calamity, sure that could have contributed to something, but it's only a fragment of the full picture
Its what I personally call the "Gorillaz effect" Its like where the first listen of a song is either meh or actually bad but over time you eventually start to enjoy listening to the song and you can't explain why lol
When the drop came, I was already mesmerized. But when the singer basically went awol, and started singing, I thought that was the peak. Little did I know that the second time the "ALL YOUR PAIN" part would repeat, the chord progression would change, and with that third chord of the progression, I got instant goosebumps. Dokuro. There are so few musicians that can give me instantaneous goosebumps like that. I hope to be able to make something like this in the future. Kudos, and thanks for continuing to make music. Edit: I still get goosebumps from that same exact chord. It sounds like an minor 7th.
This song goes SO hard. We're all so hype that you continue to produce content. Don't push yourself too hard! And remember that you got LOTS of people rooting for ya. ❤❤❤
Quite a few of Doku's songs lately have been personal and even a touch intimate, but this song's lyrics in particular call to mind two distinct interpretations that his audience might already be familiar with. At first, I assumed it was a direct representation of his audience's tendency to look at the many problems he expresses both directly and indirectly through his channel and respond with kind platitudes or offers of some kind of assistance that always seem to lack the benefit they intend to; however, reading the description, it might actually be directly linked to his involvement with the Cal soundtrack, and the resulting fallout.
I don't necessarily think there is a "right" way to interpret this song. But based on the description, and lines such as "You will not stop me" and "Use our voice", I personally interpret the narrator to be an internal voice, rather than an external one.
Such a tragically beautiful tale is being told here, that even the voices that seem to have the intentions to help or lessen the burdens in some way (keep walking, and now the beacon) only cause more damage in the end... If such blind and hopeful positivity only causes more harm, and the rest of the voices only dig their claws deeper into the wounds, what else is left? Considering that this is sung by Oliver, and this album is a precursor to Shadow of Light 3- this song, a precursor of Still Here... it's all very sad to think about. Thank you, for creating and sharing your stories with us.
Listening to you made me so grateful i am not hearing impaired in the slightest. When i go deaf for whatever reason your songs will be what i will miss the most. Seeing and understanding as someone else is going through the same emotions and feelings i myself are going through truly gave me hope when there was none. More so when that someone is somebody you idolize and strive to become one day. Hugs and kisses y'all. We're all deserving of love
I’m probably am getting the whole meaning of this mixed up. But this definitely feels like a change of pace from the songs of last year, I guess the recovery is finally here… This was something I didn’t know I needed, until I saw it. These last ten months has been nothing but a constant void walk for me, wishing that it could all end, wanting to finally be able to speak to my friends again. Taking that one big leap that I would never have thought of doing one day, and yet here I am. The loss, and pain that I had to go through last year, was horrible, and honestly… I can’t believe how far I’ve gotten, away from the hell that was almost a year without going back to what made me… Happy. Thank you, DM DOKURO, even if I don’t get the meaning of this song, it still makes me smile despite the pain that you describe in your music, because it’s the only thing I know what to do now. (Again, probably getting ALL of this mixed up, but I just wanted to express my feelings when listening to this song).
I doubt you're far off, but regardless your interpretation is awesome and it doesn't need to be 'right' to be meaningful and good. Most artists would rather you listen and interpret for yourself rather than try to figure out exactly what *they* were thinking.
I haven't seen anyone else point it out, but I noticed that the second time of the "all your pain" part had some seriously sinister chord progression lying under the positive instrumentation.
I think you might be referring to the low guitar part but I could be wrong. Personally I can't find any sinister? message in the other instruments that make up the main chord (at least in the way they move from chord to chord), but what I can find is the feeling of hopefulness being FORCEFULLY wringed out and shoved in when there wasn't any there in the first place. That's more of the vibe I get from the overall progression of the chorus but I can see how you could draw a "sinister" feeling from it, because, like the description says, it's... more saccharine and dramatic than it really needs to be, so it almost feels insensitive for those chords to be so radiant.
This song has one of the most beautiful chord progressions i've heard in my entire life, and I'm lucky that i'm alive to experience it the day it was given to the world.
i think this is one of my favorite songs in terms of message, ever. I dont think theres enough works that describe the creeping cruelty of selfishness that toxic positivity can bring, especially when it comes to mortality or its neighbours. I can feel how subconsciously aggressive and self centered these lyrics are, i can feel how much they sting. When you recognize it, it really shows how oppressive it can feel As a person whose been in such a very visceral spot before, that last part really felt right at home. If my brain had an accessible button to start crying, id bawl my eyes out. I hope you can find peace if you havent, all the respect from me. extra edit: I hope everyone who has a friend or a loved one in this kind of position be clairvoyant of this; If you know they're in a vulnerable spot, then you should be very aware that they're vulnerable against *you* too. Its equally possible to subconsciously take advantage of someone in their lowest point when it comes to positivity or "support", be mindful and careful.
Its very hard to have someone that understands you and give you unconditional support so you can keep rising up every time you are feeling down, I often talk to myself in my head with voices of the characters I like the most, they always calm me down and say positive things so i can keep going, I know in my head that its just me talking to myself, but it always helps, this songs feels kinda like that, nobody wants to give up their projects and goals, deep down we all want to get up and get out there, make our deams come true and prove ourselves, this song feels like that innocence, that confidence, that warm feeling of starting the cycle again with a different resolve hoping this time would be different. Ty for the song, as always its really good and well made, and sorry for the rambling.
"Darkness without light is an abyss, light without darkness is blinding." That quote in mind, this song seems like the equivalent of sitting in a dark room lit by a dim beam of sunlight, but someone's shining the world's brightest flashlight in your eyes for 15 minutes. (I don't know if that analogy captured the song's meaning but it's what I got from the song. Either way, I think it's one of my favorites from you yet.)
This is my favorite song. When i first listened to it, i was like: "good song, but not my vibe". I didnt know why did i feel that way back then. But with just the second listen, i completely fell in love. Eventhough there are a lot of awesome songs out there, the place of "the beacon" in my heart will not change. Heck, even compares to "STILL HERE", the song that i regard as the best song i've ever listened to, i still like this more. Thank you Dokuro, for releasing this masterpiece
The way these songs with their lyrics always manage to hit at just the time they need to be heard is magical to me. The emotion put into this, to one who does not have a good relationship with emotions, is enough to make tears. The things you have dealt with, the things you know and keep within you - they are real. They are so, so real. That will stay with you for eternity, though life may come and go, we hold onto home. Rather fictional story or integrated life experience or both, your creations play a part as a beacon into this world, to share with other people, it is true art, no matter the way you have learned to see it. As always, we wish you well and hope you find the extra little time to take care of yourself. I wish I had more to say and in more detail, but I fucking exhausted from hours of physical work and need to place my thoughts here... as they may reach you anyway, for the times it has before perhaps, in the end of all things you are loved. -Abysal.
This song feels very powerful to me, like I got goosebumps throughout the whole thing! Another amazing song filled with emotion. Edit: I also wanted to say that the guitar melody at 1:19 and 3:32 sound oddly familiar but i don't know where i heard them before.
Thank you. You don't know what your music does to me. Every time I listen my heart aches because I feel. Because It's so beautiful to hear this emotion from someone else. For all the times I've wallowed in myself while I could have been more, but was content with my nothing. I still am. It's become me, but your words bring meaning to an unseen shared suffering. The reason for my ever-present apathy evades all my attempts to know it, but your music is a retreat from the entire chore, the cycle of facades and anguish. Like a home made from your words to shelter my heart. I would never dilute the meaning of your struggles with my inability to perceive their whole, but in these moments we walk together.
We all walk parallel roads, friend. I hope you can find solace somewhere, whether it be art, people, work or whatever. The pain doesn't stop, but the misery and numbness can.
Their is something about this song. Something about it that compels me. It's a choir of voices that are sick of the dark melancholy. So they try to stop it anyway they can. But they dont really care for the subject of the melancholy. They just want it to stop.
"So it's here, The peaceful end Of the night begins again- Let your broken spirit run Towards the comfort of the sun" As an Arizonan, the sun represents anything _but_ comfort for me.
This is reminding me of what I felt when I listened to "Still Here" for the first time shortly after it released; absolutely amazed. What's even greater is that the song has only gotten better after each listening (much like "Still Here"). I'm addicted to this style. Absolutely stellar job DM Dokuro. Can't wait to see what comes next. No matter what.
@@macerunner4674 it sure does. I'm in the process of writing down the locations but not all of them are readable you see. like fr is dokuro trying to play with us? 💀💀💀
@@AnaGDI believe it's not so much as playing with us, but to get us to work for the answers... Also, Keep in mind that the locations may not match with reality, as (again, just my interpretation. as with all of what I've stated so far, I could be 100% incorrect) the entire soundtrack -"They know who they are"- to which this track is from seems to be almost a story trying to describe what Dokuro has been/continues to go(ing) through. He seems to be using clever techniques to offer a sense of world building... Which is never easy. What had happened to him should never have happened in the first place... And it must NEVER happen again...
@necronixgravedigger7455 yes, thank you for pointing it out. Y'know, I was ready to give up and leave him be due to misunderstanding him through his music, after listening to his vent playlist on bandcamp, but for some reason this map increased my curiosity tho. It's never gonna be an easy job to get used to it, right
@@AnaGD just like dealing with depression and anxiety, getting used to change is difficult and can take a while. Personally, the tracks of "They know who they are" have helped me deal with my own depression. After researching what's happened to him (through his Coffee Breaks, description of his music, his more "rant-like videos" and through various other research), its difficult not to feel sorry for the guy. Not pity, but moreso a sense of trying to understand personally what he was/is going through, and I think this new soundtrack helps to do just that. The treatment he got from the community was completely undeserved and should not have happened. Try to listen to and understand the lyrics of these songs and read their descriptions: doing this also helps to offer a glimpse of this story he's trying to tell. (PS... that "other" soundtrack that shall not be named also had secrets that are VERY difficult to read and decipher... He does it often. If you want the answer, you have to be dedicated to finding a way to read it.)
same here, when i listen to new dm dokuro's song i think 'wouch, a lot of effort was put into this but thats not the kind of music i listen to' and then i re-listen it. and i fall in love with it.
@@ybouzl2191It really is, especially since he's trying to get away from that, I learned of him through SAVE Medley, I played that on repeat for hours on end after hearing it
I like it. Feels like the "beacon" is something that offers temporary happiness, if you could call it that. Just for you to be stuck right back where you started
Considering the rest of the songs in “they know who they are” so far, I definitely wasn’t expecting one that sounded… hopeful, for lack of a better word. Like help is coming, and maybe the night will actually end sometime soon. Excellent work as usual
Hopeful ig, but with the context of where the song is in the album, the description, and the vague intrusion in the lyrics; "I will be restoring what you lost - and you will not stop me", I feel like this is one who is trying to assist another, but is doing it in an accidentally-(maybe) manner, therefore worsening the situation with their ignorance into The Embers, ands its sequel- Bacteriophage. Less of assistance and rather as a necessary intervention from the main vocal's perspective.
This song hasn't even been out for a full day yet and I'm already obsessed with it. The lyrics about the sun being a "beacon" of hope and safety after a night of fear and paranoia really resonate with me. Great work as always!
Your harmonies and textures are always so good-- that other project was only the start, I'm so hyped for this album and anything else you work on in the future. I didn't know what to expect from this album at all but this is confirming my excitement for it haha (edit 2 -- im a big silly and didn't realize a bunch of other tracks from the album are out, i listened to some but totally forgot somehow, this whole thing looks SO cool) edit: also, the glass structures stuff felt like floating around and thinking, and this feels like the start to 'answering' that stuff and it's REALLY satisfying
The moment I heard the melody from that teaser 3 months ago I started squeeing. All your new music is so good. I usually listen to random disparate songs rather than full albums but They Know Who They Are has me checking this channel daily because everything you put out is fantastic and special. Also, the vocal work on this song is great. Oliver's pronunciation is much clearer than in Still Here. Whatever tuning you're doing is working!
Its so cool to hear other songs you've made, this song in particular is super cool, really love the use of vocaloid, keep up the amazing work! Side note, this kind of reminds me of the songs at the ends of both Portal games. Gave me the same vibe, just looking back at what's happened and wishing they were able to change how things went. Such and AMAZING SONG
Even though I may not have gone through what this song is explaining, the sheer musical artistry of it makes it easily the best song I've heard come out this year.
My experience listening to the song and watching the video was generally positive and uplifting. But looking at the description, it sounds like things aren't how I imagined. I assumed that the forcefulness of the lyrics was a needed push, but perhaps it's more like an inconsiderate shove. I also find it interesting the way some of the lyrics feel like two sentences amalgamated together-- saying that your fears are ending but also that they will rise again. Maybe that's related to when the video says "TEMPORARY ACCOMPLISHMENT"? Listening again, now I notice the part about repression behind walls of glass and sorrow. My best guess is that the song is about attention being brought to your struggles without anyone truly helping.
i’m gonna be honest, out of all of the songs that i’ve heard from dokuro, this is probably my favorite. even better than any song from the calamity mod ost (which is saying a lot because that soundtrack is nothing but absolutely beautiful lol). dm, i hope you’re doin’ alright. take all the breaks you want. incredible music like this has to be hell to work on. i’m sorry for what you’re going through, and i’m sorry that the calamity fanbase thought it would be funny to be such impatient assholes to you. making music is a hobby. not some shitty job that people rush you and give you shit for. i’ve honestly been wanting to show stained brutal calamity to my choir teacher lol. i hope you get better and keep making amazing music while still taking your mental health into your main priority. and sorry if i’m acting like a dad lol - owen :D
11 months ago when I first heard this and left a comment on it I had no idea this was about toxic positivity. I was amazed how well it fit my mood at the time. Since realizing that at the time I was experiencing mania, a mental disorder that is practically the embodiment of toxic positivity, I look back and realize just why it fit my mood at the time.
Now the question is, is the interloper the protagonist holding an intervention for themself, in order to move forward and achieve peace, or is this the interloper someone that Knows Who They Are taking matters into their own hands, unaware of their own role in our protagonist's troubles? It seems to me that the voice in question is not the protagonist but an onlooker or perhaps even a participant in the suffering of our protagonist, and is now trying to "solve" the protagonist's pain without ever understanding the cause of the pain, or even how to properly help. Did they forcefully reveal our protagonist's secrets without their consent? The final chorus suggests to me that the voice has triumphed, against the protagonist's will, and now is certain of a final victory. They will make the protagonist become happy, through any means necessary. And they've brought others into the fold, who were never meant to be involved and who should not have become involved. The voice finding yet another way to take control of our protagonist's life, dismissive of their autonomy. And the protagonist can do little, for "The signal's sent, and you're too late." If you ask me, They Ought To Know Their Place. Love the song as always, Dokuro.
Lyrics I couldn't watch you kill yourself any longer. I cut the ending where you watched your world die. I'll be restoring what you lost- and you will not stop me. There was a heart here, and we heard every beat of it While we were sleeping every night, unlike you- So I will be bringing back the day, and you will not stop me. And I understand if you thought it meant nothing at all, But as long as a soul could be heard through a song full of life, you can't fall. So it's here, The peaceful end Of the night Begins again Let your broken spirit run Towards the comfort of the sun So the ice inside you Will melt indefinitely- Try to set your sights for The world that you wish to see. We'll try to help you in any way we can. We couldn't watch you fall apart any longer- Everything vanished in a blink of an eye Repressed behind walls of solid glass and sorrows too costly. You put your love and your remorse into everything- Stories and memories spanning centuries wide, And you could've halted everything- BUT YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED ME. The sun through our window makes even small differences count; If the stillness of night can't appease talking walls in a room, then step out. And it's here The vocal end Of your fears Will rise again; It is time to take control Of that world within your soul So the wrath inside you Will stop indefinitely- Until then, envision The world that you wish to see. And we will help in any way we can. (x2) And we will help in every way we can. [ALL YOUR PAIN WILL COME TO PASS SO I REJECT YOUR GRIM COLLAPSE THE SIGNAL'S SENT AND YOU'RE TOO LATE- USE OUR VOICE TO CHANGE YOUR FATE] (x2)
Just wanted to say that the section starting at 4:19 is one of the most powerful pieces of music I've ever heard. I listen to plenty of bands with plenty of funding, managers, mixers, writers, all of that. And you manage to rival them with every release. Kudos.
I honestly let myself feel this one. With the others I kept a decent distance but I let this one hit, and it hit hard Dokuro. Thank you for reminding that there is a better tomorrow.
If I were to describe this song is a few words, it would be darkly triumphant. I haven’t followed your work too closely, but I enjoy my time whenever I come by. If music truly represents the artist, it sounds like you’re on your way, Dokuro. To where, I couldn’t say. Maybe you don’t even know. But I hope you take back what was stolen from you, and make it yours again.
I’m sorry but is this in 3?? I genuinely can’t tell but I can’t get a beat for 4. I knew you were great from other work but this is my first listen to this and it’s great. Even if I’m wrong about the thing I said at the start this is just amazing.
@@DMDOKUROwhat the heck dokuro. 15/4?????? IT SOUNDS SO GOOD. I actually had to do a double take when i counted that out after I saw your comment. You are on another level of talent in the music making industry.
This song makes me think of an AI trying everything it can to help its master, after witnessing some form of catastrophe that caused them to lose everything they'd built and fall into a dark state. In an act of desperation, the AI attempts to restore everything that was lost, unaware of the damage it might be causing in the process.
Its not ignorant. Its a simple truth in a complex world. There is nothing more precious and fleeting than the voice of hope. Cling to it for your life.
Hope is important, but I think it is more nuanced than that. I think that while hope is important, and feeling it is usually good, there are some times where you... can't see the sky. I feel that this is more about trying to help someone without understanding the things they are going through. Either way, art's meaning is up to interpretation. Anyone's opinion on this is valid.
In addition to the aspect of toxic positivity I interpreted part of the song in a darker aspect where people can hijack your existence. I've often times found myself in a dark place and often times get guilt tripped back into living. And while I in no way condone offing oneself I do understand what its like to be in an awful place near choosing that option.
It gets to a point where trying to live for yourself is impossible and you live for other people but not because you want to but because they make you in a way. You get bullied into feeling bad for even so much as considering the option and that you're selfish for thinking about yourself when no one else did.
This comment hits way too close to home. It's something my mother did to me. I'm alive now because of that guilt and shame that I would ever possibly take my own life knowing what it would do to others, but its been difficult for years trying to figure out what I want or who I am. Maybe my experience is different, but I still relate to this here. Thank you.
@@hawkishere1709 I'd say that's pretty spot on in experience tbh, maybe not my mom specifically but through many people in general I guess. Sucks being treated like you have to be a puppet to the will of others.
it definitely is something that can be done VERY wrong, yes.
For me, I choose to keep going out of a self imposed feeling of duty for my loved ones, and when I'm not loathing myself, my mistakes become a source of pride
This music helped me.. thank you
They know who they are is already one of my favorite albums of all time, AND IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED YET.
Knowing what you’ve been through, this song hits so much harder.
ya i think his fans hated on him alot for his vocals in later songs for calamity
@@poopyshit_2 Ironic, cause now the Calamity comunity considers Roar of the Jungle Dragon and Brutal Stained Calamity some of the best songs in the mod
You only truly appreciate something when it is taken away from you
@@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
None of this is about Calamity, sure that could have contributed to something, but it's only a fragment of the full picture
@@EnzoZambrottiseriously, that was him? His vocals were insane on those I love them
HOW DOES SOMEONE JUST CASUALLY DROP ONE OF THE BEST SONGS IVE EVER HEARD WTFFFF ANSJSJSJSJSJUJZJSISICOD
i wonder if it's because y'all are too wild for me to be comfortable doing premieres
@@DMDOKURO ngl i'd totally buy a shirt with the cover art from Still Here on it
Even if I don't like a song DM DOKURO releases, I end up loving it in the end; it happens every time.
Always let bro cook 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
If I listen to any of these more than 3 times they really grow on me
It only took me 1 time, I feel like you need to listen to them at the right time of day, I really enjoy their work.
Its what I personally call the "Gorillaz effect"
Its like where the first listen of a song is either meh or actually bad but over time you eventually start to enjoy listening to the song and you can't explain why lol
When the drop came, I was already mesmerized.
But when the singer basically went awol, and started singing, I thought that was the peak.
Little did I know that the second time the "ALL YOUR PAIN" part would repeat, the chord progression would change, and with that third chord of the progression, I got instant goosebumps.
Dokuro. There are so few musicians that can give me instantaneous goosebumps like that. I hope to be able to make something like this in the future. Kudos, and thanks for continuing to make music.
Edit: I still get goosebumps from that same exact chord. It sounds like an minor 7th.
Wise words. The Original Starwalker.
This song goes SO hard. We're all so hype that you continue to produce content. Don't push yourself too hard! And remember that you got LOTS of people rooting for ya. ❤❤❤
I read "the bacon". This is fantastic though, almost as good as bacon
and just as deadly, if you think about it
@@DMDOKURO oh my god you're right
I remembered name balcony.. cave story
Quite a few of Doku's songs lately have been personal and even a touch intimate, but this song's lyrics in particular call to mind two distinct interpretations that his audience might already be familiar with.
At first, I assumed it was a direct representation of his audience's tendency to look at the many problems he expresses both directly and indirectly through his channel and respond with kind platitudes or offers of some kind of assistance that always seem to lack the benefit they intend to; however, reading the description, it might actually be directly linked to his involvement with the Cal soundtrack, and the resulting fallout.
Sounds like both.
I don't necessarily think there is a "right" way to interpret this song. But based on the description, and lines such as "You will not stop me" and "Use our voice", I personally interpret the narrator to be an internal voice, rather than an external one.
Such a tragically beautiful tale is being told here, that even the voices that seem to have the intentions to help or lessen the burdens in some way (keep walking, and now the beacon) only cause more damage in the end...
If such blind and hopeful positivity only causes more harm, and the rest of the voices only dig their claws deeper into the wounds, what else is left?
Considering that this is sung by Oliver, and this album is a precursor to Shadow of Light 3- this song, a precursor of Still Here... it's all very sad to think about.
Thank you, for creating and sharing your stories with us.
Portal 3 credits do be looking crazy
portal vibes do be strong with this track
Listening to you made me so grateful i am not hearing impaired in the slightest. When i go deaf for whatever reason your songs will be what i will miss the most. Seeing and understanding as someone else is going through the same emotions and feelings i myself are going through truly gave me hope when there was none. More so when that someone is somebody you idolize and strive to become one day. Hugs and kisses y'all. We're all deserving of love
I’m probably am getting the whole meaning of this mixed up.
But this definitely feels like a change of pace from the songs of last year, I guess the recovery is finally here…
This was something I didn’t know I needed, until I saw it.
These last ten months has been nothing but a constant void walk for me, wishing that it could all end, wanting to finally be able to speak to my friends again.
Taking that one big leap that I would never have thought of doing one day, and yet here I am.
The loss, and pain that I had to go through last year, was horrible, and honestly…
I can’t believe how far I’ve gotten, away from the hell that was almost a year without going back to what made me… Happy.
Thank you, DM DOKURO, even if I don’t get the meaning of this song, it still makes me smile despite the pain that you describe in your music, because it’s the only thing I know what to do now.
(Again, probably getting ALL of this mixed up, but I just wanted to express my feelings when listening to this song).
A better question is “when was DM Dokuro okay?” the answer to that question is “if ever, at least 3 years ago. probably longer”
I doubt you're far off, but regardless your interpretation is awesome and it doesn't need to be 'right' to be meaningful and good. Most artists would rather you listen and interpret for yourself rather than try to figure out exactly what *they* were thinking.
Ey, hope you are doing better as well
I haven't seen anyone else point it out, but I noticed that the second time of the "all your pain" part had some seriously sinister chord progression lying under the positive instrumentation.
Absolute chills there
seriously love how it represents a negative message under a positive intention
I think you might be referring to the low guitar part but I could be wrong. Personally I can't find any sinister? message in the other instruments that make up the main chord (at least in the way they move from chord to chord), but what I can find is the feeling of hopefulness being FORCEFULLY wringed out and shoved in when there wasn't any there in the first place. That's more of the vibe I get from the overall progression of the chorus but I can see how you could draw a "sinister" feeling from it, because, like the description says, it's... more saccharine and dramatic than it really needs to be, so it almost feels insensitive for those chords to be so radiant.
This song has one of the most beautiful chord progressions i've heard in my entire life, and I'm lucky that i'm alive to experience it the day it was given to the world.
Man, taking the time to listen to this album has been one of the best decisions i've made, keep it up dokuro i love your music.
i think this is one of my favorite songs in terms of message, ever. I dont think theres enough works that describe the creeping cruelty of selfishness that toxic positivity can bring, especially when it comes to mortality or its neighbours.
I can feel how subconsciously aggressive and self centered these lyrics are, i can feel how much they sting. When you recognize it, it really shows how oppressive it can feel
As a person whose been in such a very visceral spot before, that last part really felt right at home. If my brain had an accessible button to start crying, id bawl my eyes out.
I hope you can find peace if you havent, all the respect from me.
extra edit: I hope everyone who has a friend or a loved one in this kind of position be clairvoyant of this; If you know they're in a vulnerable spot, then you should be very aware that they're vulnerable against *you* too. Its equally possible to subconsciously take advantage of someone in their lowest point when it comes to positivity or "support", be mindful and careful.
Its very hard to have someone that understands you and give you unconditional support so you can keep rising up every time you are feeling down, I often talk to myself in my head with voices of the characters I like the most, they always calm me down and say positive things so i can keep going, I know in my head that its just me talking to myself, but it always helps, this songs feels kinda like that, nobody wants to give up their projects and goals, deep down we all want to get up and get out there, make our deams come true and prove ourselves, this song feels like that innocence, that confidence, that warm feeling of starting the cycle again with a different resolve hoping this time would be different.
Ty for the song, as always its really good and well made, and sorry for the rambling.
-_-
"Darkness without light is an abyss, light without darkness is blinding."
That quote in mind, this song seems like the equivalent of sitting in a dark room lit by a dim beam of sunlight, but someone's shining the world's brightest flashlight in your eyes for 15 minutes.
(I don't know if that analogy captured the song's meaning but it's what I got from the song. Either way, I think it's one of my favorites from you yet.)
Considering the description, the lyrics, and some of dokuro's comments here, I couldn't think of a more apt description.
This is my favorite song. When i first listened to it, i was like: "good song, but not my vibe". I didnt know why did i feel that way back then. But with just the second listen, i completely fell in love. Eventhough there are a lot of awesome songs out there, the place of "the beacon" in my heart will not change. Heck, even compares to "STILL HERE", the song that i regard as the best song i've ever listened to, i still like this more. Thank you Dokuro, for releasing this masterpiece
literally my exact experience
This feels like the ending songs to the portal games.
Ghost in The Shell: Standalone Complex
Im hearing The Steam Pianist.
The way these songs with their lyrics always manage to hit at just the time they need to be heard is magical to me. The emotion put into this, to one who does not have a good relationship with emotions, is enough to make tears. The things you have dealt with, the things you know and keep within you - they are real. They are so, so real. That will stay with you for eternity, though life may come and go, we hold onto home.
Rather fictional story or integrated life experience or both, your creations play a part as a beacon into this world, to share with other people, it is true art, no matter the way you have learned to see it.
As always, we wish you well and hope you find the extra little time to take care of yourself. I wish I had more to say and in more detail, but I fucking exhausted from hours of physical work and need to place my thoughts here... as they may reach you anyway, for the times it has before perhaps, in the end of all things you are loved.
-Abysal.
This song feels very powerful to me, like I got goosebumps throughout the whole thing! Another amazing song filled with emotion.
Edit: I also wanted to say that the guitar melody at 1:19 and 3:32 sound oddly familiar but i don't know where i heard them before.
Reminds me of something TheFatRat would make
I've never been a fan of any vocal songs, but They Know Who They Are just hits different.
Thank you.
You don't know what your music does to me. Every time I listen my heart aches because I feel. Because It's so beautiful to hear this emotion from someone else. For all the times I've wallowed in myself while I could have been more, but was content with my nothing. I still am. It's become me, but your words bring meaning to an unseen shared suffering. The reason for my ever-present apathy evades all my attempts to know it, but your music is a retreat from the entire chore, the cycle of facades and anguish. Like a home made from your words to shelter my heart. I would never dilute the meaning of your struggles with my inability to perceive their whole, but in these moments we walk together.
We all walk parallel roads, friend.
I hope you can find solace somewhere, whether it be art, people, work or whatever.
The pain doesn't stop, but the misery and numbness can.
Their is something about this song. Something about it that compels me.
It's a choir of voices that are sick of the dark melancholy. So they try to stop it anyway they can. But they dont really care for the subject of the melancholy. They just want it to stop.
"So it's here,
The peaceful end
Of the night
begins again-
Let your broken spirit run
Towards the comfort of the sun"
As an Arizonan, the sun represents anything _but_ comfort for me.
That might be the point of that line 😅
This one unnerves me. Is it supposed to give me anxiety over the impending "but why aren't you ok now??", because it is.
This is reminding me of what I felt when I listened to "Still Here" for the first time shortly after it released; absolutely amazed. What's even greater is that the song has only gotten better after each listening (much like "Still Here"). I'm addicted to this style. Absolutely stellar job DM Dokuro. Can't wait to see what comes next. No matter what.
Your music is always so good, 4:50 hits real nice c:
edit: I just realized, there's a frame of some map there too at 4:52 :o
woah the map says some stuff
@@macerunner4674 it sure does. I'm in the process of writing down the locations but not all of them are readable you see. like fr is dokuro trying to play with us? 💀💀💀
@@AnaGDI believe it's not so much as playing with us, but to get us to work for the answers... Also, Keep in mind that the locations may not match with reality, as (again, just my interpretation. as with all of what I've stated so far, I could be 100% incorrect) the entire soundtrack -"They know who they are"- to which this track is from seems to be almost a story trying to describe what Dokuro has been/continues to go(ing) through. He seems to be using clever techniques to offer a sense of world building... Which is never easy.
What had happened to him should never have happened in the first place... And it must NEVER happen again...
@necronixgravedigger7455 yes, thank you for pointing it out.
Y'know, I was ready to give up and leave him be due to misunderstanding him through his music, after listening to his vent playlist on bandcamp, but for some reason this map increased my curiosity tho. It's never gonna be an easy job to get used to it, right
@@AnaGD just like dealing with depression and anxiety, getting used to change is difficult and can take a while.
Personally, the tracks of "They know who they are" have helped me deal with my own depression. After researching what's happened to him (through his Coffee Breaks, description of his music, his more "rant-like videos" and through various other research), its difficult not to feel sorry for the guy. Not pity, but moreso a sense of trying to understand personally what he was/is going through, and I think this new soundtrack helps to do just that. The treatment he got from the community was completely undeserved and should not have happened.
Try to listen to and understand the lyrics of these songs and read their descriptions: doing this also helps to offer a glimpse of this story he's trying to tell.
(PS... that "other" soundtrack that shall not be named also had secrets that are VERY difficult to read and decipher... He does it often. If you want the answer, you have to be dedicated to finding a way to read it.)
God I always end up falling in love with these on the re-listen
same here, when i listen to new dm dokuro's song i think 'wouch, a lot of effort was put into this but thats not the kind of music i listen to' and then i re-listen it. and i fall in love with it.
The composition on this is is amazing. Actually perfected this sound
"The advice of those around you (me) rots within this hell"
All I can think of when listening to this song..
if i remember correctly, still here is the aftermath of "they know who they are" so that is quite accurate
You don't know how happy this is making me, this absolutely made my day.
Thanks for making this ❤❤❤
this track, and this whole album, will be absolute. a perfect encapsulation of emotion in every way.
i was going to wax poetical about the chord progression and other things, but all i can come up with is: 'i cried, thank you'
This song is wonderful, that's all I can say
Found your channel after looking at calamity’s ost, great music, sad people don’t dig deeper for more music made by you. Keep up the great work👍
Agreed
Absolutely tragic almost everyone knows him for calamity.
@@ybouzl2191It really is, especially since he's trying to get away from that, I learned of him through SAVE Medley, I played that on repeat for hours on end after hearing it
I feel this one a lot. This is great.
Also, the beacon looks kinda like a minecraft beacon!
I like it. Feels like the "beacon" is something that offers temporary happiness, if you could call it that. Just for you to be stuck right back where you started
S i s y p h u s
2:34 glass structure reference? 🤯
One month later and thanks to extreme depression this song feels even more confusing, but a masterpiece nonetheless
And that's the point of the song a lot of people miss!
@@Djay_Bthat’s actually an excellent point
Considering the rest of the songs in “they know who they are” so far, I definitely wasn’t expecting one that sounded… hopeful, for lack of a better word. Like help is coming, and maybe the night will actually end sometime soon. Excellent work as usual
Hopeful ig, but with the context of where the song is in the album, the description, and the vague intrusion in the lyrics; "I will be restoring what you lost - and you will not stop me", I feel like this is one who is trying to assist another, but is doing it in an accidentally-(maybe) manner, therefore worsening the situation with their ignorance into The Embers, ands its sequel- Bacteriophage. Less of assistance and rather as a necessary intervention from the main vocal's perspective.
@@voidley5854 Ah, that makes a lot more sense.
The voice sounds helpful, but the lyrics sound almost selfish in a way
Dm dokuro describes it as an ignorant positivity even
This song hasn't even been out for a full day yet and I'm already obsessed with it. The lyrics about the sun being a "beacon" of hope and safety after a night of fear and paranoia really resonate with me. Great work as always!
I havn't finished listening and idk why but i am so excited to hear oliver again! (I am crying. Thank you for making this Dokufriend. )
Your harmonies and textures are always so good-- that other project was only the start, I'm so hyped for this album and anything else you work on in the future. I didn't know what to expect from this album at all but this is confirming my excitement for it haha (edit 2 -- im a big silly and didn't realize a bunch of other tracks from the album are out, i listened to some but totally forgot somehow, this whole thing looks SO cool)
edit: also, the glass structures stuff felt like floating around and thinking, and this feels like the start to 'answering' that stuff and it's REALLY satisfying
The moment I heard the melody from that teaser 3 months ago I started squeeing. All your new music is so good. I usually listen to random disparate songs rather than full albums but They Know Who They Are has me checking this channel daily because everything you put out is fantastic and special.
Also, the vocal work on this song is great. Oliver's pronunciation is much clearer than in Still Here. Whatever tuning you're doing is working!
The vocal harmonizes to perfectly in the aggressive part of the song
Greatest artist to feel their emotions through music
This one hit like a truck for some reason.
Hope everyone reading this is doing well, or at least getting better. You are loved.
Still listening to this beautiful piece of art to this day
Portal Turret is spitting!!!
Its so cool to hear other songs you've made, this song in particular is super cool, really love the use of vocaloid, keep up the amazing work! Side note, this kind of reminds me of the songs at the ends of both Portal games. Gave me the same vibe, just looking back at what's happened and wishing they were able to change how things went. Such and AMAZING SONG
Wow, wow. wow! I love how your style has evolved. and those visuals. wow! its painting an entire cinematic universe in my head! wow!
Amazing. Beyond words
this makes me cry so much every time, i want somebody to help me
It is amazing how every single song you have made are all so good!
I love this song, but I fully listened to the lyrics now and I love it even more. Genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
This song is a wild ride, the second half just turning on all cylinders. I'd love to hear a harsh sun / alt version one day, mesmerizing.
this really feels like a nice version of GlaDOS
the best intentions often have the worst expectations.
this song goes so hard. thanks for blessing us with your amazing music
was not expecting this big of a song. i got even more hyped when i saw how long it was. this is great man keep it up
i freaking love this album already
I love your music so much. brought here by calamity OST and stayed for your talent. Im hyped for the finished album
Man now this is just different... I love your style and growth with each song
Even though I may not have gone through what this song is explaining, the sheer musical artistry of it makes it easily the best song I've heard come out this year.
Sound great as always, keep up the great work.
Wake up babe new DM Dokuro banger just dropped.
and yet again DM dokuro posts a song and i immediately love it, i'm starting to wonder if i'm brainwashed or something
My experience listening to the song and watching the video was generally positive and uplifting. But looking at the description, it sounds like things aren't how I imagined. I assumed that the forcefulness of the lyrics was a needed push, but perhaps it's more like an inconsiderate shove.
I also find it interesting the way some of the lyrics feel like two sentences amalgamated together-- saying that your fears are ending but also that they will rise again. Maybe that's related to when the video says "TEMPORARY ACCOMPLISHMENT"?
Listening again, now I notice the part about repression behind walls of glass and sorrow. My best guess is that the song is about attention being brought to your struggles without anyone truly helping.
i’m gonna be honest, out of all of the songs that i’ve heard from dokuro, this is probably my favorite. even better than any song from the calamity mod ost (which is saying a lot because that soundtrack is nothing but absolutely beautiful lol).
dm, i hope you’re doin’ alright. take all the breaks you want. incredible music like this has to be hell to work on. i’m sorry for what you’re going through, and i’m sorry that the calamity fanbase thought it would be funny to be such impatient assholes to you. making music is a hobby. not some shitty job that people rush you and give you shit for.
i’ve honestly been wanting to show stained brutal calamity to my choir teacher lol. i hope you get better and keep making amazing music while still taking your mental health into your main priority. and sorry if i’m acting like a dad lol
- owen :D
11 months ago when I first heard this and left a comment on it I had no idea this was about toxic positivity. I was amazed how well it fit my mood at the time.
Since realizing that at the time I was experiencing mania, a mental disorder that is practically the embodiment of toxic positivity, I look back and realize just why it fit my mood at the time.
I don’t know how to describe how this made me feel, but thank you for letting me feel it.
Now the question is, is the interloper the protagonist holding an intervention for themself, in order to move forward and achieve peace, or is this the interloper someone that Knows Who They Are taking matters into their own hands, unaware of their own role in our protagonist's troubles?
It seems to me that the voice in question is not the protagonist but an onlooker or perhaps even a participant in the suffering of our protagonist, and is now trying to "solve" the protagonist's pain without ever understanding the cause of the pain, or even how to properly help.
Did they forcefully reveal our protagonist's secrets without their consent? The final chorus suggests to me that the voice has triumphed, against the protagonist's will, and now is certain of a final victory. They will make the protagonist become happy, through any means necessary. And they've brought others into the fold, who were never meant to be involved and who should not have become involved.
The voice finding yet another way to take control of our protagonist's life, dismissive of their autonomy. And the protagonist can do little, for "The signal's sent, and you're too late." If you ask me, They Ought To Know Their Place.
Love the song as always, Dokuro.
Autism + ADHD person here.
Thank you for this album.
Lyrics
I couldn't watch you kill yourself any longer.
I cut the ending where you watched your world die.
I'll be restoring what you lost-
and you will not stop me.
There was a heart here, and we heard every beat of it
While we were sleeping every night, unlike you-
So I will be bringing back the day,
and you will not stop me.
And I understand if
you thought it meant nothing at all,
But as long as a soul
could be heard through a song full of life,
you can't fall.
So it's here,
The peaceful end
Of the night
Begins again
Let your broken spirit run
Towards the comfort of the sun
So the ice inside you
Will melt indefinitely-
Try to set your sights for
The world that you wish to see.
We'll try to help you in any way we can.
We couldn't watch you fall apart any longer-
Everything vanished in a blink of an eye
Repressed behind walls of solid glass
and sorrows too costly.
You put your love and your remorse into everything-
Stories and memories spanning centuries wide,
And you could've halted everything-
BUT YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED ME.
The sun through our window makes even
small differences count;
If the stillness of night can't appease
talking walls in a room, then step out.
And it's here
The vocal end
Of your fears
Will rise again;
It is time to take control
Of that world within your soul
So the wrath inside you
Will stop indefinitely-
Until then, envision
The world that you wish to see.
And we will help in any way we can. (x2)
And we will help in every way we can.
[ALL YOUR PAIN
WILL COME TO PASS
SO I REJECT
YOUR GRIM COLLAPSE
THE SIGNAL'S SENT
AND YOU'RE TOO LATE-
USE OUR VOICE
TO CHANGE YOUR FATE] (x2)
thank you for the great music you've given us
Another incredible song DM!!!!
Just wanted to say that the section starting at 4:19 is one of the most powerful pieces of music I've ever heard. I listen to plenty of bands with plenty of funding, managers, mixers, writers, all of that. And you manage to rival them with every release. Kudos.
This is one of my new favorite songs. I’m gonna go back to listening to all your new songs, this is amazing.
I love this album so much! This is amazing work done Dm Dokuro! Keep it up we all love you :)
I honestly let myself feel this one. With the others I kept a decent distance but I let this one hit, and it hit hard Dokuro. Thank you for reminding that there is a better tomorrow.
Reading the description will give you a whole new perspective...
@@Djay_Balready did and damn, goodshit all around.
I love it, absolutely amazing!
Reminds me of Portal 2’s ending, absolutely gorgeous ❤
SOOO GOOD YOU LOVE TO SEE IT, GREAT JOB DOKORU!!!!!!!!
dude your tuning with oliver is always so good
I love to hear lyrics in your songs again!!
If I were to describe this song is a few words, it would be darkly triumphant. I haven’t followed your work too closely, but I enjoy my time whenever I come by.
If music truly represents the artist, it sounds like you’re on your way, Dokuro. To where, I couldn’t say. Maybe you don’t even know.
But I hope you take back what was stolen from you, and make it yours again.
The more I listen to this song the more I want to turn it up
for these weeks this had been my fav song tbh
i just love all of it
Ahhhh it's literally DM Dokuro making retro shoegaze this is the most incredible thing ever even after three months it's just aaaaaaa
I’m sorry but is this in 3?? I genuinely can’t tell but I can’t get a beat for 4. I knew you were great from other work but this is my first listen to this and it’s great. Even if I’m wrong about the thing I said at the start this is just amazing.
it _does_ stick at 3/4, but then at the drop, you have this 15/4 time signature that shifts from a 3/4 rhythm into a 4/4 rhythm. crazy stuff.
@@DMDOKURO ah I hear it now, listening for the 3rd time in a bit here. Absolutely wonderful!
@@DMDOKUROwhat the heck dokuro. 15/4?????? IT SOUNDS SO GOOD. I actually had to do a double take when i counted that out after I saw your comment. You are on another level of talent in the music making industry.
THE BACON IS REALLLLLLLL
This song makes me think of an AI trying everything it can to help its master, after witnessing some form of catastrophe that caused them to lose everything they'd built and fall into a dark state. In an act of desperation, the AI attempts to restore everything that was lost, unaware of the damage it might be causing in the process.
the song felt relieving at first, but reading the description changed my view of its lyrics
i dont know what to make of it
Oh baby, that climax is a real darksynth banger!
the ending verses are very powerful - i look forward to them every time i listen to this song
this immediately became my favorite vocal track of yours, quite expansive yet very clear trajectory...
Its not ignorant. Its a simple truth in a complex world. There is nothing more precious and fleeting than the voice of hope. Cling to it for your life.
Hope is important, but I think it is more nuanced than that. I think that while hope is important, and feeling it is usually good, there are some times where you... can't see the sky.
I feel that this is more about trying to help someone without understanding the things they are going through.
Either way, art's meaning is up to interpretation. Anyone's opinion on this is valid.
This goes hard as f**king diamonds, very nice!