Nightwish - "The Poet and the Pendulum" - Reaction
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I wanted to let you all know that I was okay. After shutting down the video, I had myself a pretty good cry. I couldn't even bring myself to talk about what I was feeling and thinking at the end of the video. The pain that Tuomas went through was literally unbearable and I felt it to my soul. I am still sad to know that he, or any human being, would ever be in that dark of a place. I am grateful he has moved past that into lighter, happier days.
I expected this to hit me emotionally but not quite as hard as it did. I also know I said I didn't even want to upload it but I'm better with that now. I'm not happy about it but I'm at peace with it. I am certainly grateful Tuomas did this through his music instead of in his actual life. He is a deep soul, like the ocean he loves so much. I'm much of the same with the ocean as he is and hearing the waves of the ocean tonight will have a different feel for me.
These are the things I would have said at the end of the video but I couldn't. I hope you understand.
Totally understood. I can relate to Tuomas at that time. Long story but, like Tuomas, I waited and things did get better!
❤💋
This was one of the most honest and emotional responses i have seen to Poet and The Pendulum. I felt the same
The most honest, perfect, from the heart reaction to this Masterpiece ❤
Thank you.
Many of us are right there with you. This one definitely hits hard, even after years of repeated viewing. It is a pleasure to be with you on this journey.
No matter how many times I watch this, seeing Tuomas mouth "try to save them all, bleed no more" just guts me every single time....
Me too.
Yeah...Same here, and Floors "Thank you" breaks me. How she looks to her bandmates to make sure Tuomas is okay, turns back to the crowd. The only time the audience is shown is in the early stages of this masterpiece. This is a song for Nightwish. Great respect for the way the video was put together.
Same Brother
@@randymarple9830 geez, great observation on the crowd. I’ve seen this video countless times and never realized that. That’s impactful in itself.
Me to...😢
And you have reached the deepest part of the nightwish rabbit hole. There isn't much you can say after listening to this once you know the meaning. Floors high falsetto makes me cry every time.😭😭😭
Debbie, you might want to watch "7 Days to the Wolves" at Wembley next. You will see the biggest smile on Tuomas' face when he watch's Floor sing. He is in a happy place now. And he's windmilling so much at the end I was so afraid his keyboard was going to fall over. We all have our dark times and places but Tuomas has come through his and has created some of his best music ever. He has come out of his dark time and has risen like a phoenix!
So true
Thank you for a beautiful reaction. If it helps, I am a 75 year old ex Special Forces, retired law enforcement officer and I am not ashamed to admit this masterpiece has moved me to tears on more than one occasion.
Sweetheart, you always show respect for the Nightwish songs and we love you in that you react truly and honestly to all music. Keep on doing what you are doing. -Much love from the Midwest
I've seen it a gazillion times with a lot of reactors and I can quite confidently say that you've shown THE most respect and emotion for the song that I've seen on RUclips! It's an extremely emotional song - as I come from London, all I can say is that I'm gutted I missed this concert at Wembley in 2015 because I didn't get into them until early 2020. Pity you don't live in London, I would've gladly given you my spare ticket as my Brother couldn't make it for the Nightwish show (again at Wembley) in November 2022. Take good care of yourself 😃
Hi Debbie, I also have been waiting for this. You are right #1 you need to be in the right mind set, #2 you need to know the background story of this incredible masterpiece to appreciate the true experience That is why you are a cut above many reactors, you get it, you research, you experience the raw emotion behind many artists and their performances. Love and Respect!!! And yes I still cry every time I watch this performance. Hits me hard.
I can’t think of a better singer to perform this song for Tuomas.
Not only because of Floor’s vocal abilities, but because of her ability to portray the emotions as well. She really is an amazing performer, and I’m so glad she was able to connect with Nightwish and bring such memorable music to us.
I don't think anyone else could have done it. The number of vocal timbres, ranges and techniques Floor switched between throughout this was crazy. And as you say, her visual performance within those was unbelievable.
This was written around Olzons voice. Olzon is a far better vocalist than Janzen.
@@davidellinsworth3299, Anette Olzon was the first. That whole album was written around her voice. Way better singer.
@@BlackCat0315 ha ha🤣
@@BlackCat0315 yes she did the studio version, but sang the only way she knows how (and couldn't sing the boy soprano section in part 3: The Pacific - she came down an octave or two in the one live version I've seen her in - in her pop voice of course). If you genuinely believe Anette is a better singer than Floor then you're obviously a deluded fanboy who doesn't look at things objectively, and I certainly don't have the time or will to help you understand just how wrong you are.
This is not a song it’s someone’s heart being shattered into a million pieces a beautiful masterpiece and rightfully they confined it to just a few performances. It’s both tragic and perfect all in the one
You, my friend, are a special soul. You feel the music. Thank you for sharing your Nightwish journey.
Great video…great reaction. Marko will have my eternal respect for checking on Floor to make sure she was ok before going to show his support for Tuomas. It was just a glance but it spoke volumes of his character. His presence will be deeply missed.
My mother to passed from Parkinson's at the height of the COVID Lockdowns, I could not travel to attend her funeral due to the travel restrictions. I was unemployed and had just recently lost my cat to a stroke. This song and the new Human | Nature Album saved my soul from the deepest despair of my life.
Disgusting what our Overloards took from us...and from You. My heart breaks knowing that you were kept from your mother's funeral. Glad to know that Nighwish is here to provide you some level of solace.
Sorry to hear of your losses.
These last few years have been cruel to so many people around the World, mental health is now more obviously important (it may have been ignored before).
The fact that most of the World had similar experiences, has brought people together (with some terrible exceptions), everyone can afford a few seconds, minutes, or even hours, to lend a hand to someone in need.
Give, and you receive. (I started as a volunteer in a local group, I know more now, with extra friends).
Thankyou so so much for your sincere, genuine reaction to this masterpiece..I have seen so many reactors saying , "what a nice song,
not sure what it was about though ", really !!!!! What you really bring to your channel Debbie is sincerity, honesty, & above all raw emotion,
this performance does not happen often, & on behalf of the Nightwish Army, we all thankyou for the utmost love & respect that you have
given to this timeless & emotional performance.....
also worth to say that Tuomas has said he is an empath so all of the emotions others may feel were felt as though they were his own
Floor is a highly sensitive person and she was feeling everything and avoids eye contact with Tuomas A highly sensitive person (HSP) is someone who is thought to have an increased or deeper central nervous system sensitivity to physical, emotional, or social stimuli. i think she has also stated she is an empath as well makes this and every song that much more touching
Her glances over to Tuomas, she didn't look to the other side of the stage, at all (that I noticed).
I followed Floors suggestion, there was a survey, I got a shock at my results, may explain a few things.
She also once said she has to prepare herself before each concert to not start crying during songs and as a HSP myself I totally get it 😄
Tuomas can write music that touches your heart, and floor can interpret what he writes, the rest of the band connects it all, a sad story, a beautiful song God bless
A masterpiece of music and emotion. Maybe my favorite Nightwish song ever. Floor took it to another level. They only performed it with Floor 20 times. Likely never to be performed live ever again. Thankfully, we have this amazing video.
Yeah, it's a personal favourite too, I think it encompasses everything Nightwish represents.
I consider myself incredibly lucky and blessed to have witnessed them performing this live with Floor.
Yes I think it is Tuomas's greatest work.
This is the most intense and emotional lead up and reaction to the song I have witnessed. Debbie it seemed to me throughout this song you just wanted to run up to Tuomas and give him a big hug. You get it. Whatever you call this community around Nightwish - an army, family or whatever, you are forever a part of it and it a part of you. ❤️
I agree !!!
I concur!
I concur.
I concur.
I concur 💯%!
You remember I told you Metal gives you an avenue to express things you normally can't... all the emotions, the passion, the pain, the fury, the joy, everything. You just ran face first into the greatest example I have seen of just that. Don't worry we all cry during this... I have watched this song hundreds of time... cry every time.
This song is therapy, and about a new beginning. It starts with “the end” which is Tuomas leaving the dark unhappy place he was in behind. The song ends with “the beginning” of a new happy future in front of him! While this song is difficult to listen to, especially at first, it is a beautiful masterpiece that should be celebrated as Tuomas conquering his demons and coming out better for it!
With Easter coming up in a few weeks, remember that it too has a similar emotionally difficult story with Jesus dying on the cross to conquer sin and to create a new beginning where we are saved!
Don’t get me wrong I’m only saying that sometimes the most emotionally difficult stories (and songs) turn out to be what we cherish and respect the most. I feel this song is something that Nightwish fans truly respect and cherish which is why we continue to listen and cry to it every chance we get. It keeps us grounded and connects us. I hope someday you too will be willing to listen to it again!
Theeee most respectful way I've ever seen this song being approached.
THANK YOU !! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
...as i told you
Nightwish are able to hurt you !
...but they take good care of their fans and write more uplifting and nicer stuff than ... this ...
holy mother of gods milk, i need tissues too
next suggestion: "Harvest", from Human Nature
me: going to CD2 from that album now, i need it now ...
"all the works of nature which adorn the world" -> ruclips.net/video/RnOdQ5WNZJk/видео.html (read the pinned comment, it might make you curious)
Debbie this is a very intense emotional song! Your reaction is completely understandable and beautiful in it's own right! Much love.
I think that one of the most important lines in this song is "1000 pages of erased text". IMO this refers to all his songs he had written for Tarja that he felt he had lost, after all, who could sing them like Tarja. Then along came Floor, I don't think it is a coincidence that they had the Decades tour bringing back some of the old songs from the Tarja era. I think that Floor made Thuomas believe he had his songs back. This is all my conjecture of course but I don't think I am far off.
Sounds legit
That's a very interesting and sensible connection that hadn't occurred to me before, thank you for the idea and lateral thinking.
The most beautiful line in this song - “Search for beauty, find your shore” - is what Tuomas was eventually able to do. I think these words should be in everyone’s toolbox of life.
Your reaction was very well done; and yes, every time I hear this song, I cry.
This band always plays with my emotions I cry I smile I laugh it's real chilling did you notice how everyone went to check on Thomas it was sweet
You don't just listen to Nightwish. You FEEL their songs. And you reflect on them. And carry them in your mind and soul for life. That is what makes Nightwish special.
And now you are ready for The Greatest Show on Earth, from Wembley. That song/performance will make you part of the Nightwish Army 🏴☠ as so many before you, and som many after you.
After this reaction I think it is safe to say she is already part of the Nightwish Army.
Hi Debbie, I really hope you will soon be well again and I am really grateful that you decided to share this video with us.
For what it's worth, I cried with you.
You said at the end: "it's amazing what hate can do". But I believe it is far more amazing what love can do. And the last part (Mother and Father) is just about that. Love can rescue you from the darkest places. So I think after some time has passed, you will be able to listen to this song again. This song, this masterpiece is simply too good to not be listened to.
Love from Germany, Wolfgang
Hello from the Netherlands.
thanks for for the video Debbie .
Sincerely Hollandduck
To truly understand this song. You have to have been in that same dark place. That's why I envy the ones that don't understand this song. To be hurt so badly. It's feels like your core is being chopped up. Is something I wouldn't wish on anyone or anything.
I can honestly say that...your reaction had alot of us reliving our 1st experience. What always breaks me is when Emppu and Marko (who went thru it with him) gather around him at the end, for supporting their friend; making sure he was OK.
I love to sing this song...bc it's a great vocal clinic, and you can really add emotion to the words. However, I can't sing it while seeing the video, or if I allow myself to think of the meaning...or I just begin sobbing.
A wise person once said, " In order to live a full life, you must think, laugh & cry every day. " Music can be the catalysts for all those things. ❤️🎙🎸🎹🥁😎🤘 Peace !
This band unites and heals their fans because they allow us to share in their journey in life. Great reaction. Seriously.
The benefit of an artist being able to channel and express their emotion through their art. It is challenging each listen and allows connection in ways you never thought existed. Bravo to you.
The Complex Problems, Division and the Feelings between the Tuomas and his old Friend Tarja one of the founders of NightWish which reached the Breaking Point causing her Split from the Band Hurt them All, Then it was Played Out in the Media, The Fans Split and took Sides. It played on Tuomas till it Left him Empty. Anette came to Replace "Tarja", "Anette" was a Good Vocalist, but her range was Different less Dynamic, The Fans did not take to Her Style and Range most of the Music was written for "Tarja", NightWish had to Change to Fit "Anette" there was some Good and Bad to Come in the Years Leading to 2012. I think Floor Saved Nightwish, She was so Versatile in Her Vocal Talent and Skills she brought Back the Old Music and Mastered the New, This Freed Tuomas to Create New Arrangements for the Old and take on New Projects, Then add Troy, The Whole Band Just Came Alive for the Fans "Wacken 2013" is the Proof.
Thank you. I thought it would be hard for an empath like you to make this reaction video. Musically and emotionally powerful.
Hey, you made it thru... I had to pause it 2 or 2 times when I first heard this... I couldn't believe how the music spoke to those forgotten and unhealed parts of my youth. It's a tough one...
And congrats; you made it all the way to 9:11 before crushing that tissue.
For Nightwish fans , this song is the most meaningful...And a big part of Nightwish History .
And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also I recommend to read "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor.
This song has the most emotional impact for me,... I was that that "Bastard" who abandoned Nightwish after Tarja left...Never Again !!!!
Although I love this song (Especially this version), it is the only song, I can't put to my playlist... because, I break down to tears every single time (Current reaction included...).
This masterpiece will remain a reminder to me for my narrow mindlessness.
NWSU/FloorFan 🤘😔🤘.
Floor brings so much emotion to this song than Tuomas could have ever wanted, Marko believe it or not originally sang this song in full in a DEMO version with slightly different lyrics which they also released.
The official studio version with anette was a masterpiece too. In fact it was so good I wasn't too much into nightwish but that song made them legit for me.
You showed the utmost respect for this song - sometimes less is more, your thoughts were made plainly clear to us and is completely understandable. You went above and beyond with your "homework" on this song, and it shows. I didn't know the backstory behind the song until I had listened many times, and the first time after I had been "educated', it really hit me with a ton of bricks.
It's a tough song, and I cry in a part or two each and every time I listen to it, and tonight cried right along with you.
Give "Whoever Brings The Night", an Annette song a try.
Much love to you, see you on the other side of the Nightwish spectrum soon!♥
I'm so glad you did get to experience The Poet. It really is an incredibly heartfelt song that is so well written and performed that it beautifully conveys emotions that are far from beautiful. But in that way he provides a catharsis and emotional cleansing for both himself and those lucky enough to hear it.
I think Floor's magical abilities with her voice make her the only singer who could possibly convey the depth of emotion that this song calls for, and I like to believe that it was this that gave Tuomas the courage to see it performed as it is.
I can so well understand why you would need some time to yourself after the video, and to yet again extend a huge hug from all of us in the Nightwish Army (of which you have become a vital part, BTW).
A whole heap of Nightwish love to you!
This was a great reaction, because your face, your eyes say it all. And your compassion, and your very soul shined bright ♥
As someone who has suffered depression and continues to suffer from social anxiety disorder, this song is actually one of light for me; as he doesn't feel that way anymore - it gives me hope. I'm actually going to get "lead me astray to dreamers hideaway" tattooed on my arm at some point, because it is beautiful ♥
Thank you for uploading this video. I hope you are OK ♥
I view his expressing his remorse and depressive feelings through song as incredibly healthy.
This song literally goes through the stages of loss, grief, sadness, anger, helplessness, and finally, hope.
For at least 6 months, he did not know if there would still be a Nightwish after the backlash.
Thank goodness he got it out - 18 more years of excellent gifts for us to hear that would have never been written & composed. Hugs from 🇨🇦
This is beyond master piece from Tuomas ❤ Every time this song moves and hits me so. There is no better song writing and composing than this. What a beautiful reaction from you and you did so great job getting the background of this song and Tuomas. Honestly I waited this song reacted by you. Your Nightwish reactions are so lovely. I am so lycky to have all Nightwish studio albums since 1996 and also that Wacken 2013 2 DVD set including the documentary 'Please learn the setlist in 48 hours'. There are many other documentaries also about Nightwish.
A new one about the Nightwish museum, with the music teacher!
Thanks for crying withing. Purifying cry that earns place in our hearts. This works every time and makes us better men n women. It´s very beautiful and teaching song.
It's very emotional song isn't it, you can see why it's better to get to know the band before you do the reaction. Lovely emotional reaction Debbie, you did give it respect.
I think if you look at this song from the perspective of how it ends...with the beginning...you see that it isn't a tragedy, at all, it's a song of redemption. Those words in the final section "Mother and Father" are pretty much a direct quote from his mom.
The final section is SO important because, with the final section, you see it's not a song about Tuomos killing himself at all, It's a song about facing the darkness, and going home to find people who really love you there, people who will reach out a hand and help you through whatever you're going through.
The idea that there are people who love you enough to pull you through.
To help you to a new beginning. "The beginning."
The song in its entirety is Tuomas ripping his ribcage open and letting you examine all the hidden bits on the inside, in all it's horror (Sections 2 and 4) ...and all it's beauty (Sections 2 and 5) It's important to note that it ends (or, as the song says, begins) with beauty.
It's OK if you have tears, I have watched this like 50 times, after I found out what the song was about and why Tomas rote it, I still tear up every time I hear it 😢
I think watching it again will be worth it. It still hits hard but the emotional roller coaster of the song and the genius of his ability to share his emotions through brilliant music can only be appreciated after a few listens. A job well done, Debbie!
An incredible emotionally poetic song..... 🙇🏼♀️
*The poet and the pendulum*
What a song, what a content, what an emotion, goosebumps...
You know the backstory of Tuomas Debbie... you just can't help but cry 🥹
Floor's voice can really touch people so well because she also puts emotion in her voice!
By the way, all band members have made a fantastic contribution!
This makes you silent....
The images are also impressive.
The Pacific 🌊
The pale moon 🌕
The end***The beginning
"The Poet And The Pendulum"
What a passion!
Tuomas is a great composer unbelievable ✨
Thanks 🫶 Sweetie
Oh, God.
Freakin' wrecks me every damn time. My favorite bit is the end (Mother and Father). Floor's plaintive, weeping vocal. When Tuomas mouths the words. "Try to save them all. Bleed no more." Oh, man. You know, it's the Jesus thing. Once all souls are saved, Jesus won't have to bleed any more. As the poet bleeds for his art. Powerful stuff. Great react, Debbie.
✌&❤ 🎩🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹 🤘😎
Debbie; you are a gift for me. You are emotional and genuine person; that song is a rollercoster of feelings, and your reaction of that master-piece of all times was mezmerising, too. Greetings fron Argentina
NightWish Army Wisconsin Chapter here. Only Toumas’s pain can be turned into what I think is the Greatest, most emotional piece of music ever composed. The world loves Tuomas, we will always be there for him! ❤❤❤
No song describes in its composition so good how depression works like this one .
It gets me every time...even though I know what to expect. Man, Floor's vocals bring so much emotion to the fore that it gets right to your soul. I am also glad that Tuomas found a way out of that dark place. To bring himself to put that emotion into his art took a lot of courage. It doesn't surprise me that they don't perform this song anymore...it must be heart-wrenching for him to live through that every time. Thank you for the reaction...now onto a more uplifting one next, okay? Cheers!
I've watched this 100 times, and still tear up!
Have been waiting for this 👌🏻👌🏻
The best part of this song..... the part that really gets me, is the line "try to save them all, bleed no more"....... in the line before this, Marko sings perfect harmony, but on this line, Floor goes up while Marko descends..... not really sure why this gets me, but it's less the lyric and more the perfect composition, musically.
This song always emotionally affected Tuomas, which is why they never play this anymore. He wanted Floor to perform this, but after they did it a few times he pulled it from the setlist. He is the happiest I have ever seen him, even back in the early Tarja days. He smiles lots now, and his smile makes me almost as happy as Floor's. He considered it therapeutic getting his emotions out. Floor breathed new happy life back into Nightwish, and they did the same for her after her year and a half burnout.
I think you reaction says volumes. Thank you for getting through it and doing all the research. You did the song justice. Mother and Father gets me every time. Every...time.
Hopefully, it wasn't too hard on you or too negative in a lasting way. You did an excellent reaction to this moving piece of musical history. Your due diligence was admirable! Thank you! You are truly a humanitarian and a feeling person. I wished the world was filled with more people like you! I bid you peace, harmony, prosperity and tranquility! Keep up the excellent reactions. May you always be a caring person. The world needs more like you! Peace!
Great reaction👍🏻
I love how Tuomas borrowed ideas from The Pit and The Pendulum, a short story written in 1842 by Edgar Allan Poe. The story deals with the psychological torment of a prisoner in the Spanish Inquisition who is publicly tortured and executed for opposing the Catholic Church. He finds himself in a rat-infested, darkened room with slippery sloped floors leading to a Pit, with a swinging Pendulum above. The Pit signifies Death, the Pendulum represents Time and the sloped floors, rats and darkness symbolise Fear. An awesome adaptation to music. Genius!
The protagonist of the story opposed the Catholic Church as he despised God for taking away his birth mother, adopted mother and wife with plague and disease.
I personally believe that Toumas's torment wasn't because he fired Tarja from the band but because his so-called fans publicly tortured and executed him for doing it the way he did. I also believe the score was arranged into 5 separate chapters to signify the 5 stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance).
Thank you. remember now that you seen it for the 1st time Tuomas wants people to enjoy this masterpiece not be sad
Ah, Debbie. Know that we love you as we love Nightwish and all of our fans. NIghtwish is something beyond special. They are beyond beautiful, beyond ethereal. They are Nightwish... with our Valkyrie goddess, Floor. Thank you so much for this wonderful reaction that brings us all to tears. I hope that you, too, feel our love.
nice words Richard
I look at this song more as a window into those emotions that so many are not willing to talk about. I also went down that dark rabbit hole at one point. But in the end we all have to find purpose and a reason to keep moving forward. Search for beauty, find your shore. You have such beauty within. A moment for self reflection and hope for the future.
Thank you Debbie. A beautiful, heart-felt and honest reaction. I think we all feel the emotion of this song, possibly above all other Nightwish compositions. This (and Dead Boys Poem) never fails to move me deeply. Watching you mirror my own experience is truly moving, and I hope that in time you, like Toumas, arrive at a time where you can listen to this and appreciate it without the accompanying hurt. You are a beautiful soul. Take care. ❤
In my nearly 70 years on this planet and more than 50 years of playing music myself, I have never heard or seen another band that can touch my heart the way Nightwish does. They are simply the perfect combination of music and soul. And Floor - she is a Goddess in human form. Thank you Tuomas for baring your soul for all to experience and thank you Debbie for allowing us to see your heartfelt reactions.
Omgosh …it’s time…❤️
It is fair to say that I am a grown-ass man, was at that concert and have heard this song a thousand times. Rest assured I was sobbing too.
Dear Queen... when you said you needed the right mood to listen to this master piece, you were right.
I am passing trough my roughest time in life, all my so called friends left me, my mother died, went bankrupt, my family is giving me the cold shoulder, i´m also on the verge to become homeless, have no food on the fridge...
Anyway, let´s go straight to my commentary: i left my computer on, with my reactions of the day on, and it went straight to your reaction and started on his own...your voice tone caught me LITERALLY with a rope on my neck, and, i dont know why....you gave me a little hope.
If, by somw chance one day you think on giving up anything, just remember....i´m still alive because of you.
Hope you keep up your great work....and from the deepest and sweetest part of my heart... thank you.
i am watching the body laungage of the member like Floor and Tuomas and also you can tell the narrater of the song is in pain both mental and emotinal Floor is tearing at her hair which is a known grief response in older times and as the voice over starts Tuomas turns away from the stage ie the audiance then is at peace towards the end ps smiling in the animal kingdom and in some cases humans is a sign of fear and aggression
🤩👌💥💯🎼
Debbsie Woobsie Doobsie could have totally different coming to this track without the pre - training on comments.
Now it looks like the musical part is utterly over looked, almost ingnored.
But that is just fine... 😉👍
Touchy reaction anyways. One of the most this kinda "deep emotions involved" of reaction.
🤘😎 🇫🇮 💙
In the end, Floor sitting between her brothers ... - 73 years old hippie from The Netherlands (Floor country) checking out ... Shine on Debbie, we luv yah 🤘👍
I understand how you feel but if you just talked about how amazing performance was than could focus on that. Unbelievable life music and performance. One of Floors best performances ever. It is overwhelming emotional,especially when you know the backstory. Out of his severe depression, came a masterpiece composition.
Well, that hit hard. Don't say you'll never listen again - it is worth the feelings it arouses.
Tuomas is a vey special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work.
Nothing surpasses it.
For him it is one of the deepest songs.
TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me.
My notes:
My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons.
(No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.)
This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish.
He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then.
Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section.
Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre.
You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced.
For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations...
End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era.
Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game.
The band split, that is all we need to know.
Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that.
But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions.
The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts.
Then we get the whole section "Home".
I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset.
The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person only what they can get from the band.
The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world.
The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band.
By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion. Exactly 3 minutes.
Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at points too.
Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil.
These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given.
Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion.
This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas.
We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm.
Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it.
On the performance itself:
When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them.
At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position.
BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school.
So proud of you Deb ...great reaction 💜 I tear up every time I watch it...a stunning opus
You did fine, Debbie, with much respect and I cried with you. I'm sure... I'm convinced you will listen to this masterpiece again, maybe not today or in the near future, but one day you will, just let it settle.
I think the album “Dark Passion Play” was the catharsis Tuomas needed to come to terms with the whole situation and save himself from getting in a deep dark hole. Luckily he did. And this was the end of an old and the beginning of a new era. Less tension, less turmoil, a new found horizon, a freed mind for writing new songs, two consecutive albums, Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum, who sold as never before. The start of the reborn Tuomas and Nightwish.
Damn it woman, you made me cry. I only watch reaction videos of Poet and the Pendulum,, I can't watch the complete video uninterrupted. But I did with you, half watching the video, half watching you.
That was the best reaction I've seen to the poet, your reaction and emotion was a perfect reaction to this amazing emotional score.
I might disagree with the suicide part with other fans, I believe it was (old) Nightwish that was killed not Toumas " the beginning".
tuomas had his in ears turned off during this song so if some movements seem out of place it is because he can not nor will he hear the vocals due to how dark the song is
more than that. he was going to break down during Mother, Father because of those words. Apparently he stated that if he heard them, he would start crying himself. A prime example of why everyone in the band either looked toward him or checked on him throughout the song, and stood by him at the end, in show of support.
An absolute rollercoaster of emotions!! I ve seen this video hundreds if time and it still gives me chills!! I cried like a baby with your reaction, Debbie… Greetings from Spain!!
🇫🇮❤ This is an epic masterpiece of a song that cuts you like a knife with emotions that no words can describe. It also shows that creating great art often requires great personal suffering first.
P.S. The fact that it takes precisely 3 minutes from the young boys voice saying "Now I only have three minutes..." to when Tuomas figuratively kills himself by cutting his throat with his right hand, is a testament of how great a composer he is.
don't worry about it kiddo, ❤❤you did just fine but that's why I warned you didn't want it to surprise you, PLUS that's also a use besides telling a story music can also take you away from the ills of the world, that's the first thing I do when I feel low I go straight for my music!!!!!
Some just write songs and som do... music. Thank you for charing this with us. NWA Sweden eastern division.
Great and honest reaction. Tears happen and it sometimes requires more than a moment to digest this one. When you feel depth the way you do, no amount of preparation can truly prepare for this performance. Your initiation into the army is complete.
I’ve listened to this song a thousand times, and I still cry every time ❤
The way Tuomas takes you through the music and the lyrics is just amazing, sadness anger and death and forgiveness and understanding.
I think he most of all wanted us to feel what he went through and not what the press did say.
Don't know if you have seen this interview with Tuomas, I think it is one or the best.
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Part 2
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I am almost 70 years old and a Nightwish fan since 1999. I first heard this song live in Amsterdam in 2015 and I cried. I have heard other performances that I enjoyed almost to the point of tears. But your reaction to this song made me cry again which is a first time for me.
You said you would not listen to it again. I understand! But there is a Mexico City version that is even better because it has a very moving triple fistbump between Tuomas, Marko and Emppu at the end.
Tuomas said in 2007 about this song: "It’s a very personal song, about the uppermost self hate and self disgust you can feel. The feeling that you’ll never stop doing wrong things in your life."
That was really a true honest emotional reaction💓
Everytime i watch this video i get emotional too, also why Floor sings it with so much emotion and passion, she feels the song really.
Kind regards from the Netherlands ❤
I have listened this song so many times (hundreds of times) and still weeping, every time.
I will listen it hundreds of times again, and most likely weeping through those times too. It is how it is.
Definitely, Tuomas put his soul and emotion into this piece of music. It always drains you when you listen to it. However my favorite still is 'Greatest Show on Earth', because of its subject matter and message! And, as brilliant as Tuomas is as a writer, Floor certainly added an entirely new dimension to this band! The only two bands that make me loose myself in the music are Nightwish and Epica, Nightwish for the stunning musical perfection, and Epica for their thought provoking lyrics ...
Thie story behind this song always seemed so tragic to me because everyone involved was terribly hurt. There were no bad guys, just a frustrating lack of communication. Certain people involved did not speak directly to each other for 15 years. I have heard that there is at last at least a semi reconciliation between Tuomas and Tarja, and I hope that's true.
There has. They talk amicably, regarding business. Prime example is that 2 years ago, Nightwish re-released her last album with the band, Once. They needed Tarja's permission to re-release that album. With Tarja being friends with Floor (Floor asked Tarja for permission to join Nightwish, if that tells you anything), and Marko patching things up with Tarja, there is at least some easing of tensions. All have moved on, but unfortunately, this entire fiasco is immortalized in 4 songs which will outlive everyone.
Yes, I believe she contacted him with her condolences when his father died a year or two ago. I believe that broke the ice.
When you see Empu next to Toumas is to check on him. But then he decided to have Floor voice removed from him inner ear mix so it would be easier to play.
Thank you for sharing this with us!
Now you need to watch I Want My Tears Back from Buenos Aires for some happy Nightwish!
She did that one already...lol
Part 5 "Mother and Father" gets me every time.
Thank you lovely Debbie! I cried with you! Your reaction is the most heartfelt of all❤❤
Tuomas has been known to have the volume of the vocal feed to his in-ear monitors turned off for this song.
I think this song takes you through the five stages of grief; SARAH... Shock, Anger, Resentment, Acceptance and, Happiness. The danger of doing too much research before hearing this song is that you get stuck on the first three.
When you have a moment, watch it again and you will, I hope, get the feeling of redemption that I do at the end. Thanks for sharing Debbi.
I shouldn't have watched this right before I have company coming over 'cause now my eyes are all red and puffy 😭Thank you for sharing this cathartic and honest experience with us ♥♥