Technodrome Reissue Controversy (NOT THE ORIGINAL SIZE!!) - TMNT
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The reissue of the Technodrome was on the top of every Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan's list; HOWEVER, new reports on the Amazon website prove this is not the original molds and that this reissue is going to be smaller than the original. Watch to see a full breakdown!
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If they had to cut costs, I suppose a little shrinkage isn't too bad, but I would have happily paid extra for a full-size reissue
Agreed, and I think most fans would pay the bit extra to get a true 1 to 1 reissue. Still cool to have this released even if not quite the same
IT WAS IN THE POOL!!
@@KJ-tz7vccalm down costanza
“Cut down costs” hahaha you guys are the perfect consumers! It’s called making more profit, are you not paying attention?!
Meanwhile at the Playmates Headquarters… “just shrink it, these people are dumb and will buy anything with a TMNT logo hahahaha”
I feel like the customers who will actually pay $80 for this wouldn’t mind and honestly would rather be paying $100+ for a full size version.
I do agree with you, most customers who actually want this would have paid more for the actual full size
I think the reason they did that is so no one can use new pieces to complete the old technodrome and scam people claiming it’s the original technodrome.
This would 100% put a stop to it
All I can say is that it's a miracle that we're getting this in the first place. Is it what I had when I was 4 in 1990...NO
However as a new product I for one have put my money down on two. This is not a cash grab Playmates is giving some of us an option who rather not spend $400 on a complete worn out playset from 1990.
Now we just need a Sewer Lair Reissue🙏
It is a miracle that Playmates has given TMNT in general so much love and we are lucky to be getting this still. It will be a great display piece and far FAR cheaper than buying an original lol
@@Ogles They just posted videos on Amazon for assembly and a 360 shot.
I'm actually not surprised. When I saw the price was only 80 bucks, I was certain they had to be skimping somewhere. I'm actually shocked it's as big as it is.
They’ve been pretty good on prices for the reissues and such so far, but sorta like you said they’ve been skimping to keep it that way I think. Guess this is a cool variant to have for collectors though.
@@Ogles I think it's actually cooler for using as a toy. Serious collectors are gonna want the original, but if I had a kid who loved the Turtles I'd totally buy it for them.
@@clearlypellucid That is very true, would be great for a kid to just enjoy it as well. Most hardcore collectors will still just go after the original
Definitely not gonna be a deal breaker for me. I'm swooping on this technodrome
I would rather pay extra for full size.
Would make a lot of fans a bit happier!
Glad I have mine from my 11th birthday. Still complete. What I loved about the technodrome. It can hold all the parts it came with,
Jealous! You've got a real treasure on your hands!
Wow I wish I had my original. Grandma hooked it up for my birthday
Kind of a bummer but I’m not upset. Reissues are a great and affordable way to fill in gaps in our collections. I would think most collectors would know that there would be some differences. For the purpose of being a display piece, this will work perfectly for me and I can put that $100-$200 I would have to drop on an OG towards something else. I personally hope Playmates continues to reissue other vehicles and playsets even if they’re not 1:1 to the originals.
You’re very right that this is still a great way to fill in gaps in collections and have awesome display pieces. Most people seeing it when you have it displayed would never really notice it. Hopefully the sewer will come sooner than later too!
Honestly if I had room in my museum, I would still buy this. No sweat
Hey! to see a new technodrome in 2024 is amazing regardless of the size.
I can't disagree with you on that one!
I don’t mind either. Its just going to be for display
Yeah for display purposes it really won’t matter all that much, but if you try to put the figures in it on display it might look a bit wonky.
Yep I will have it closed on display
Differences I've noticed if this holds true to the photos:
-As mentioned in the video overall size.
-Size of the bed is smaller
-Purple panels on the base
-Foot entrance matches blue base, no longer grey.
-Matte light bluish grey instead of grey on dome.
-Red pieces instead of the more orange original pieces such as bed, hinges and spike cannons.
-Hinges are now this matte bluish grey instead of orange.
-Raised turret to accommodate Be-Bop.
-Missing some stickers.
-Possible bridge connection points being a closed for peg points.
Thanks for making a list of the differences you saw as well! I guess we just need to view this one more as a variant instead of true reissue
I would have paid an extra $25 or even $50 to get a full size or even larger Technodrome. I hope they do a Sewer Lair that is the same size or larger than the original.
I bet if they do the sewer, they will make it the same size as this so they can be connected easily
Thanks for the heads-up. Just cancelled my pre-order.
Not what I was looking for.
Glad I was able to help you with the decision!
Honestly it's not that much of a difference and for $70 can't put a price on nostalgia.
@@joshuasmith6346 If it was an actual reissue, I'd be all over it. Have paid double even. The shortcuts are unnecessary and will bug me. I'd rather put the $100 plus towards getting an original. There's still a few in my area with all the parts, and not all that much more expensive than this would be after the exchange rate for our pitiful Canadian dollar.
The original is already kind of small. Shrinking it is a bad idea. Glad I have an original.
Jealous of your original one!
no way that an entirely new set of tooling was cheaper than using the original one. The 1.5 inch less in height is not saving them the cost that they outlay for NEW tools.
$80 is a fair price. If people want the vintage one, go pay 10x this and be happy. I’ll pay $80 and be happy
It should be bigger since most of us were smaller when we played with it. Shrinkflation is ruining my childhood!😢
That really would make the most sense!
Lol
So one thing, you are comparing images of the new release vs the vintage packaging image. The image from the vintage packaging is not what you got in the box. If you compare to in hand product images you get a very different picture. Scaling wise it almost looks identical. If anything it looks like the circumference of the ball might be a hair smaller, but it's hard to gauge due to the new clips that have been added in. On mine I can tell you that everything looks the same size. Bebop and rocksteady never really fit in those seats, though I do remember shredder fitting a bit better.
I had the original. The new one is definitely significantly smaller.
@@Rocket1377 I had the original too. it was the first toy I ever saved up my own money for. Based on pictures alone, things look nearly identical. however as implied already, you can not trust playmates promotional images. I DO BELEIVE THIS IS SMALLER, just saying that up front. My reasoning has nothing to do with images, the videos playmates put up, or anything else other then the price. Just accounting for inflation, the vintage technodrome would cost around $160-170 in todays money. but toys manufacturing costs have skyrocketed. no way a 1-1 scale replica of the vintage could be produced for under $200 today. So yes, I expect it to be smaller, I would also be prepared for the final product to be missing the few paint apps on the outside of the hemispheres
They removed shredders legs for the box art on the original one.
I still have my original technodrome and sewer in storage but was considering buying one of these anyway just to support the release so we could get more classic sets rereleased.
Im curious if this new one is actually smaller or if the original promo pics were taken with a larger prototype version, it was pretty common for the pictures on the box to not actually match the toy back in the 80s and 90s due to the use of prototypes. Will be interesting to see actual comparisons once it comes out.
It is very possible that the promo pictures have the sizes off a bit, so I'm excited to see the final finished product as well!
YES! the original had the red support leg on it, this picture doesn´t
Old toys measurement included the eye ball, amazons measurements does not include the eyeball, the eyeball if 2 inches tall.
That would be a huge difference. I had the original. The eyeball on top was the size of a baseball. Around 3 inches.
For $80 dollars in todays economy and inflation it is a good deal instead of paying more than $100 dollars for a reissued model. They might have downsized the technodrome to be able to sell it at a fairer price and made it reachable to a larger customer base 🤷🏻♂️
That very well could be the case!
I really hope Super 7 does a Playmates Technodrome. Hoping it would be like $300 or so. I'll buy it if it's around that price.
If Snake Mountain and Cats Lair were around $600 each... Technodrome is easily going to be about $800 IF they were to make one.
We will have to wait, but one thing is for sure you can't never trust those old promo images with kids, they always used prototypes and not final production samples
That is true, I am comparing two promotional images instead of final product images. Hopefully it’ll be closer to accurate when actually released!
I am 40 years old, I have collected all of these re-issues over the past two years. I have waited 32 years for the opportunity to own one of these. This thing could be pink and it could make a moaning sound as I opened it up, and I would still shell out the $85 for it. I don’t care if there was a 5 inch difference in height. I’m 100% buying it.
I'm not upset...I have an original complete playset and would just keep the new one sealed and display the box with my collection.
Having the old one def would make it better lol. But guess just view this one more as a variant for collectors purposes now.
I legitimately was about to order one. This convinced me not to. Thank you.
Glad I was able to help make the decision easier for you
It’s still cool that Playmates is releasing this, even with the slight differences. I never expected them to, and it still has all the same play features, so I’m not disappointed at all.
You're right that it has all the same core features and for most intents and purposes will be the same. Most people walking by a display shelf would never know the difference, lol
I appreciate this and I will be cancelling my pre-order. I will wait for a comparison video to see if I end up getting it at some point. I still have the original 1990 Technodrome but it's not in the best condition.
Well you have the OG even if not in the best shape and many TMNT fans would trade a perfect condition new one for the one you have any day, lol
Honestly, a lot of the reissues seem pretty lazy now. They always have a lack of paint or the color's seem off on the figures. I have the og figures, so I dont pick yp the rereleases, but a lot of them just look worse than the original version. I don't own the original technodrome, so I was excited for this release, but seeing how crammed the figures are and having it smaller does kinda make me less excited for it.
They do seem to do the re-releases sorta haphazardly, especially with the paint jobs and such. They just paint right over holes in pants or rips and everything. I'm still excited for this one because I don't have the original either, and for the most part I'll never think about it, but it is odd for them just to make a whole new mold to make this smaller.
Vintage collectors already have this and the original price back in the day was $60 so I can’t see them making the full size now for $80. I am glad that they made it smaller so it does not confuse the vintage collectors with regards to parts being the same and getting mixed in with vintage.
I do think it will help keep them separated and will keep people from swapping parts out between the two. And that makes sense when say the original was $60, because $60 1990 would be way more no days than what they are asking, lol
Adjusting for inflation, a full size technodrome re-issue would be about $150. I’d still buy it but I think they tried to make it as affordable as they could.
I had the original as a kid. And even back then I felt like it was undersized since the figures couldn’t properly fit in some (if not most) of the places it was designed for. So when I found out they scaled down the new one even more, I immediately canceled my order. I’m tired of playmates cutting corners and giving us half assed renditions of the original tmnt figure line. Just not worth it for me.
I do understand what you mean and especially if you already felt the original one was a bit crammed. Wish they would just do the reissues exactly like they are supposed to be done!
I think Playmates did it for cost, but also to stop you from replacing parts on the vintage. Personally I wish they would have gone up 1.5".
Yeah I think most collectors would have gladly paid the extra money to get it to the original size. But perhaps they did do it to prevent parts replacements on th older ones too.
Kind of silly if you ask me. 90% of the market for this is adults. People that are now three times the size they were when they last handled this toy. Even the original would feel small to you today.
So, forget 1:1, it should be bigger than the original. And price is not even a factor. If you make it, they will buy.
If they doubled the size and tripled the price, it would sell out in no time. I guarantee it.
I agree with ya, the main market here would have gladly paid more to get it exactly the same.
I think they don’t have the original mold. To re-release the drone. So they had to start over. That happens 95% of the time.
That makes 100% sense, thanks for the comment!
Charge more and keep it the same size, this just creates more problems.
I like the price and this should make the people worried about the value of the original being hurt by a rerelease happy. It’ll be fun getting the new and old side by side for comparison.
I do agree that this will allow the original to keep the price point for collectors, but all the slightly more casual fans to have one as well.
I'd gladly pay $15 for the reissue figures if they were the same quality plastic and paint as the original. But I really just buy the reissues for the new weapons. I do have an original Sewer Lair and Technodrome brand new in open box. Along with two Blimp II's, cheapskates, and Scout Technodrome new in open box as well. I planned to put them together, but the price on these things keep going up and up and it's got to be worth at least triple what I paid for them several years ago.
That also means that it probably lost the feature of being able to connect with the sewer playset. If you're a vintage turtles collector today, that means that you're around my age, that also means that most of us have been working for 20 years now. I bought my Technodrome around 15 years ago, the original one, brand new in its box and it was definitely affordable. Why wait for re-releases?
That being said, you're comparing the pictures with a prototype of the old one, not the actual production piece. For an instance: the tunnel entrance to the jail section shown in the vintage picture, it's not how the actual toy was, that entrance looked in fact much closer to that of the reissue.
How do u findout about these original tmnt reissues I don't findout about them until they didn't show in my store or I do see them in store? Is there a website that keeps track? I can only findout about like neca or super7 witch I don't really care for not playmates
To me the best way is to follow some Facebook groups and things seem to leak early on there all the time. Hope this helps!
+sad, I wanted one but knowing these facts helped me understand why it’s available. I love new old stock & I suppose that reduction is good for scammers, trying to part this out & even sell it off as an original mint in box. Those are around $4 G’s. I recall a decade ago , scammers trying to sell the Star Wars retro for like $250-$300 a card. But couldn’t playmates have made provisions to avoid scamming, like how the reissued party wagon has different size parts vs. The 88” release & it’s stamped with the year of production
Yeah it's a shame, but if just displaying the set then it won't be so noticeable, just hope it still fits with the sewer lair though
Wasn't the photo of the original you are using as a comparison just a prototype they used for the old advert? The actual original playset being the same size as this reissue?
I'll admit I'm comparing a promo photo to a promo photo; however, the finished product from 1990 did measure 15 inches and this ones states it's only 13.5 so there is something off regardless
As long as the pipe for the original Sewer Playset connections to this Technodrome's hatch, it's fine.
Hopefully it'll click into it just fine!
There does seem to be some differences with the reissue, and it may well be smaller. I've been comparing the images of the reissue on Amazon to various images of the vintage playset that I've found online. But the image that you are using the represent the vintage Technodrome is a promotional image, and I believe that to likely be some kind of early prototype before it was finalized. When comparing that image to photos of the actual vintage Technodrome playset, there are some differences.
Just a few examples... on that vintage promo image, the eye sits on the playset in such a way that you don't see the purple "neck" (for lack of a better term) coming off of it and connecting to the playset. But when looking at pics of the actual vintage set from similar angles, it can be seen.
On the image of the reissue, on the two section of the dome that open up, you see the clips on the top that hold those in place when closing the playset. The actual vintage playset has something similar, though they are black rather than the same color as the rest of the dome. But they are completely missing entirely from the promo image.
Then there is the pipe that you are comparing at about the 3:30 mark. On that vintage promo image shown here, the round pipe shape extends all of the way back right up to where the cage begins. But the actual vintage playset that was released is actually more similar to this reissue where it doesn't extend as far back (there may still be some differences between the vintage and reissue, but it is not as drastic as it is in these pictures). Part of the reason why it ends where it does is so the sides of the dome can close. In looking at that promo/prototype image, I doubt that the sides can close properly from the looks of it. And as a result, I think the sticker inside of that pipe is likely smaller on the actual vintage playset than in that old promo image. Again, there could still be some difference between the reissue and the actual vintage set, but likely not as drastic as this comparison makes it seem.
Also, that vintage promo image completely lacks the red legs/feet that extend down and hold up each of those sections of the dome when it is open (as seen in the new reissue image). The actual vintage playset does have those.
Thanks for the detailed examination of it too! And true, I am comparing promotional image to promotional image instead of finished product to finished product so there will be some changes on each image. Like you said though, even looking at pictures of sets on eBay and such there are still some differences between the promotional image of the new set and the old released one. How drastic will just have to be waited on and seen I guess lol. Hopefully it won’t be quite as drastic as it seems. Thanks again for the input!
They may have lost the original mold. This happens. ARe we sure they still have the mold?
Hey ogles do you have any idea to get cheap vintage tmnt figures?
Sometimes you can get lucky on Facebook marketplace but sorta getting harder on there. Also some FB tmnt groups do weekly claim sales and some decent deals pop up on there too!
@@Ogles okay ill try that thanks!
Slightly disappointing but not a deal breaker. It's going to sit on my shelf closed anyway.
Yeah, if you never take it out of the box and display it for art purposes there will be nearly zero difference
Not in the box closed. Just the toy itself closed🙃
Maybe it’s not a bad thing as it increases the chance I may be able to squeeze one into my gaming space 😄. I did think the price was perhaps a little too good. Cheers for sharing.
That's the way to go about it! Will def make it easier to find a spot myself too. My TMNT display area gets very crammed due to my buying too much stuff lol
For 80 bucks im fine withblosing an inch... big deal. I cant afford the 300 to 500 dollars for an original so whatever...
That's very true, for the savings of $400 I can deal with the slightly smaller size too lol
keep in mind turtles are a 4 inch scale.
Its very likely they did not have the old mould anymore or we would have seen it again a lot sooner. These are big steel moulds, that can get lost or damaged. The size difference is awkward but could be result of reverse moulding breaking down an original technodrome.
Still a whole lot better than that Out of the shadows movie Technodrome.
That is literally the best explanation I've seen yet! Reverse moulding would make perfect sense for the size difference!
Are adults actually mad about this? I’m 43 and had so many turtles as a kid it was crazy. I’ll buy this and put it on my shelf with all my other stuff. Not really a big deal.
In some of the FB groups I'm in there was a bit of a ruckus, several people claiming they were canceling orders.
@@Ogles Crazieness. I’m a huge collector of a ton of different things and I will never understand how things like this make grown adults mad. I actually like slight changes to things like this to differentiate new from old. If you are that uptight of a collector then go find the original. If you can’t afford it then maybe collecting isn’t for you. Toy collecting isn’t a poor man’s hobby.
@Jpansta some people really do get upset over the smallest things. I’m in the same boat as you, I find it odd but this just means more variants and honestly will prob be easier to display on the shelf. Like you said, toy collecting isn’t cheap and to get a great looking piece like this for $80, most can deal with it being slightly smaller.
I don't see why it's a deal breaker. I looked up mint condition technodromes and they are like $500-$600. This re-issue is a little bit smaller but not much. I'm getting one
I'm hoping the guy in Australia makes stickers for this Technodrome. As I bet the factory stickers will probably be poor quality. I like stickers that are plastic instead of paper.
Well that sucks I was so excited to experience this set for the first time since I was born in 2006 and obviously don’t have the original or any of the other sets from the 80s The only I have are the figures
I do wish they would make it exactly the same, but hopefully it'll still work well for displaying purposes!
I never owned one before. When I was a kid, a friend of mine had one. For me, it doesn't matter about the size. Just to be able to own one is enough. I was able to get my hands on a turtle lair.
Actually happy about, makes it easier to display 😅
That's the way to look at it! Will def make it easier to set out!
I like that it's smaller since it will fit in my TMNT setup better if I get one
That's a good way to look at it and honestly it'll fit my setup better as well!
I can't even find the page for it
Id say it is possible to use say the Mega construx Turtles for the set
So this doesn't really make sense. They would have to build a whole new prototype and cast molds to make this smaller technodrome. They aren't going to invest money just to save a little bit. I'm guessing part of the original mold or the while thing was lost or destroyed. They have done this with other reissues like the blimp and the giant sized turtles.
I think you're right that they prob lost the old mold and had to reverse engineer it, which would explain the slightly smaller size.
Fuck that I'm still getting it yeah dude
This sux but better then 200+ for a decent og one that's still too small imo.
That's very true! Will still save collectors a ton of money!
those turtles on the action shot look like they're added in and maybe proportions are off because comparing the two images Raph looks like a 5" figure compared to the OG raph who is smaller. that rear tunnel door in the OG shot is not what was sold in stores back in 1990. The amazon one is how my original one is. After having mine since I was 6yrs old I will say one thing I do like are those connector points on the sides. It looks like it will latch on and hold together well but I worry about opening it...
I can see what you mean that the turtles do look a bit photoshopped in on the pictures. And the new latch could be a great benefit indeed!
I got mine for Christmas '91!
Nice!! Jealous!!
You need to compare the 'new' technodrome to the actual vintage toy, not the box art. The box art featured the prototype, which was different from the finished toy. The reason Shredder sits lower in his seat on the vintage box photo is because they took his legs off (as they did with Bebop, and you can see his exposed hip 'bones') The stickers etc actually match the vintage toy. So maybe this is a 1-1 scale copy, but they didn't include the eye-clops in the height or something?
Still have to see what the packaging looks like. I can't find a single photo of it.
sice a mould like this coast up to a million a new mold thats a bit smaller is unlikly
they most likely that the retoolt the original tool
This is what makes the most sense
This is something you keep mint in box anyways.
If you just display it in the box then you'd never even see the difference!
I ordered mine on release date June 1 but when will it ship out!!!????
They haven't said an official date yet!
I just pre-ordered, it says it'll be out September 16th ^^
They might not have the original molds anymore and just made it an approximation!
I do tend to think this is what has happened!
The original was $60 so this coming in at $80 even if it's not a 1 to 1 is still a good deal and for a alternative for the original . A damn original vintage box alone in decent shap cost you more the $80.
That is very true! With inflation over the years it should cost about $120! lol
So I've only paid so much attention to this. I would love to add a Technodrome to my collection and so for me this is still fine. No one but me will ever really know. Still it is interesting to see that they downsized the whole thing. Maybe it fits better with the Walmart anniversary tmnt now. Who knows. I think I'm still gonna try to get one.
Would easy pay the Extra Costs had to Cancel the Order. This is Not how it should of been done.
Really do wish they'd just be more upfront about it
Will it connect to the lair tho
The old lair probably not, but if they reissue the lair it probably will!
Safety standards probably played a role in changing it as well. The original is pushing 35 years old at this point
That is also a very real possibility!
its different because 2024, you cant remake the magic of the 80's
Sadly, nothing can truly remake that magic
Maybe the new Technodrome was just in the pool. That could explain why it’s a little bit smaller.
That's disappointing. I'm glad I still have my original. It's not in flawless condition, but it's pretty good.
Jealous!
Im glad its smaller, space is limited for me.
I can relater 100% lol
Poor Donnie has no room to stretch 😂
lol, he's def gonna have a rough night's sleep!
Just hoping they will rerelease the sewer lair and it will match up with the connection point. Was so disappointed that mega construx released a technodrome set but then never released a sewer lair to go with it.
That is a good point, what ever the size they use for this one they have to stick with it for the sewer set so they match up!
I do not care about the size I will buy this one let's goo
Honestly when you display it on a shelf almost no one would know the difference from glancing lol
Cheap plastic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The latches are a good idea though
I actually think the latches are a great change too, lol
definely its smaller, but well, it is what we can get to don't pay overprice on the vintage ones at ebay
It is 100% more cost effective than buying the ones on eBay lol
the only reason I'm ok with downsizing is I'm not going to play with it it's more for a novelty thing being able to have a brand new never opened box is enough for me
I just wonder what this means for a possible sewer layer reissue...
Yeah that could def be a concern!
The reissues are always off tho. No biggie
And from reading other comments, I think it's prob due to reverse moulding the set since they lost the original mould for it.
@@Ogles yeah, I think they do a good job as is
Womp womp
This is the same size as the original, if you look at videos of the original the figures were cramped inside just like new pictures. I remember having to take Shredder's legs off just to fit in the chair right. I'll get this new one because the smaller Nick versions will work better with it.
Id hate to lose an inch and a half 😝
NO .. rip off 😢 that's the way they do nowadays on anything that's a remake..
It def seems to be their track record with the TMNT reissues. Get everyone excited and then slip the disappointing part in later.
@@Oglesthat’s what she said.
What's disappointing about it? It's a technodrome period. Nobody's ripping you off😂
I’ll pass on it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I still think it's a cool item to get, but can def see why there could be disappointment after expecting a 1:1 reissue
It was ugly when it came out and is ugly now just like those original TMNT toys sadly one of them about that time now I wanna look back I'm like why... thank you Neca. Hopefully they do technodrome as well.
Blows my mind these companys cant even make something that they already made!
There’s a million reasons why the re-issue may be slightly different. It’s not even officially announced yet, so we’re just speculating at this point.
I kinda regret pile driving my older brother onto my original technodrone destroying it .
But he was a doushe so it might have been worth it 😂