During WW2, Sweden spent more than 10% of GDP on defence, and after that it was about 5-6% for as long as the Soviet Union existed. During the last 30 years, we abolished general conscription, and today have a professional army of 17,000 - which was Russia's losses to capture Bachmut. We definitely need to step up, in a big way.
@semipalatinsk1 Nej du har fel. Sverige har lagt säkerligen 5-6% av bnp på invandring / mångfald. Vi har alltså lagt lika mycket pengar som vi tidigare lagt på att försvara oss, på att ta hit fienden. Helt vansinnigt.
@semipalatinsk1 du förstår det är inte Ryssland som är vår fiende. Vi har samma fiende, islamiska staten och EU, Nato och usa (med fel folk i vita huset) samt regim media och globalist-kapitalet. (Blackrock, Goldman Sachs mfl)
Well you either have to increase incomes of the country (trade, export, which takes long) or take the money from other sectors (healthcare, infrastructure, social system, investments). Also 10% is crazy, 3 maybe 4% are realistic. Russia spends between 3-4, USA too. Small proffesional well equiped army with best drones, jets, missiles, can counter even army 5x larger. Also most countries in Europe cant solo Russia (maybe France,Germany and UK), so we need allies ofc.
Best for Europe, NATO to counter tRump with 6% gdp, just say it!! That said, better spend what ever is required to keep putler outside of your country. Better to spend 4% and not need it, then to have the muscovy hoards coming for you. Peace through strength
The percentage spent is really not the point. The point is spend it all in your own Country. Building Defence manufacturing facilities that will not only supply weapons with no outside obligation, but also create local jobs and boost your own GDP. Logical? Not so?
Die angst voor Rusland is absurd, Rusland is niet eens geïnteresseerd in het westelijke deel van Oekraïne. Het enige wat Rusland wil is een neutrale buffer zone tussen de Navo en Rusland zelf zoals was afgesproken tijdens de Duitse hereniging. En als je ziet hoe dicht de noord-oostelijke grens van Oekraïne bij Moskou ligt dan snap je dat heel goed, zeker als je in ogenschouw neemt hoe de Verenigde-Staten buurlanden van staten, die niet willen buigen voor Amerikaanse overheersing, gebruikt als springplank voor onrust in die "onwillige" staten.
@@yoda204 2%, 4%,6% is really a point. Spend it where you will, spending it at home would be fiscally responsible, voters would agree, but spend what is required to deter putler’s tyrannical aggression.
Interesting thoughts! I do know that Sweden is one of the most peaceful concentrates and has strong diplomatic ties with many nations. Sweden did join NATO.
Yes but 5% as Trump says is ridiculous, after all the US pay 4.1% of their GDP in defense. As long as the Europeans keep on buying US weapons, it will always be like that. It needs true European arms integration and proper investment in European arms research.
Counter tRump by suggesting 6%,, even that the US would need to spend another half trillion, , but to keep putler outside the door, better spend minimum 4%
The US cheats when they quote their current GDP percentage as 4.1 percent. I recently read a post that pointed out that all medical cost incurred by all branches of the US military and their dependants including Veterans is included in this figure. In Europe this factor is not included as most EU countries have free medicare
Point no2. The greater percentage, if not all modern wars, and political tensions, are formented at the behest of, and to the sole benefit of, the World Wide Defence Industry. Look where that is concentrated and you will be find the core of the problem. Spend as much as you will on Defence but do so wisely. Spend it building production facilities of your own. If you have to import components, make sure they do not come with any usage preconditions
Als Oekraïne neutraal was gebleven, zoals zij was voor de Maidan coup van 2014 en zoals was afgesproken als voorwaarde voor de Duitse hereniging, dan was er nu niets aan de hand geweest.
Europe has been slowly but surely made totally dependant on the US Defence Ind. That dependance must be removed at all cost. The lap dog moniker must go
Percentage is a poor way of measuring as there's a rather big difference in costs for a lot of things from different countries, as just one example look at the prices Boeing charges for soap and other items. 🙈The only reason to buy American stuff is to avoid having too large stockpiles if the percentage is a fixed number. 😆
spending money is poor substitute for a resolute defense policy and courage to act. when was the last time any country attacked a NATO country directly on home soil? all this talk of % is arbitrary. we made it this far without bankrupting ourselves over military spending, why start now?
@@ginniemess Europa is een continent en Rusland is het grootste land binnen Europa. Van de Europese landmassa is bijna tussen één derde en twee vierde Russisch. En Russisch is de meest gesproken inheemse taal van het Europese vasteland. Weet u wel waar Europa ligt?
Her Eyes can split your soul
During WW2, Sweden spent more than 10% of GDP on defence, and after that it was about 5-6% for as long as the Soviet Union existed. During the last 30 years, we abolished general conscription, and today have a professional army of 17,000 - which was Russia's losses to capture Bachmut.
We definitely need to step up, in a big way.
@semipalatinsk1 Nej du har fel.
Sverige har lagt säkerligen 5-6% av bnp på invandring / mångfald.
Vi har alltså lagt lika mycket pengar som vi tidigare lagt på att försvara oss, på att ta hit fienden.
Helt vansinnigt.
@semipalatinsk1 du förstår det är inte Ryssland som är vår fiende.
Vi har samma fiende, islamiska staten och EU, Nato och usa (med fel folk i vita huset) samt regim media och globalist-kapitalet. (Blackrock, Goldman Sachs mfl)
Well you either have to increase incomes of the country (trade, export, which takes long) or take the money from other sectors (healthcare, infrastructure, social system, investments). Also 10% is crazy, 3 maybe 4% are realistic. Russia spends between 3-4, USA too. Small proffesional well equiped army with best drones, jets, missiles, can counter even army 5x larger. Also most countries in Europe cant solo Russia (maybe France,Germany and UK), so we need allies ofc.
It was below 4 % shortly after WWII and about 2.5 % by the end of the cold war.
@@Aggoenix
Spend what is require to keep the hoards at bay
Peace through strength
Best for Europe, NATO to counter tRump with 6% gdp, just say it!!
That said, better spend what ever is required to keep putler outside of your country.
Better to spend 4% and not need it, then to have the muscovy hoards coming for you.
Peace through strength
The percentage spent is really not the point. The point is spend it all in your own Country. Building Defence manufacturing facilities that will not only supply weapons with no outside obligation, but also create local jobs and boost your own GDP. Logical? Not so?
Die angst voor Rusland is absurd, Rusland is niet eens geïnteresseerd in het westelijke deel van Oekraïne. Het enige wat Rusland wil is een neutrale buffer zone tussen de Navo en Rusland zelf zoals was afgesproken tijdens de Duitse hereniging. En als je ziet hoe dicht de noord-oostelijke grens van Oekraïne bij Moskou ligt dan snap je dat heel goed, zeker als je in ogenschouw neemt hoe de Verenigde-Staten buurlanden van staten, die niet willen buigen voor Amerikaanse overheersing, gebruikt als springplank voor onrust in die "onwillige" staten.
@@yoda204
2%, 4%,6% is really a point. Spend it where you will, spending it at home would be fiscally responsible, voters would agree, but spend what is required to deter putler’s tyrannical aggression.
Defense budget is all about paranoia of Putin? Man’s living rent free in your heads you idiots…
6% is an insane number and something no serious politician considers a goal.
Interesting thoughts! I do know that Sweden is one of the most peaceful concentrates and has strong diplomatic ties with many nations. Sweden did join NATO.
Yes but 5% as Trump says is ridiculous, after all the US pay 4.1% of their GDP in defense. As long as the Europeans keep on buying US weapons, it will always be like that. It needs true European arms integration and proper investment in European arms research.
Counter tRump by suggesting 6%,, even that the US would need to spend another half trillion, ,
but to keep putler outside the door, better spend minimum 4%
The US cheats when they quote their current GDP percentage as 4.1 percent. I recently read a post that pointed out that all medical cost incurred by all branches of the US military and their dependants including Veterans is included in this figure. In Europe this factor is not included as most EU countries have free medicare
Point no2. The greater percentage, if not all modern wars, and political tensions, are formented at the behest of, and to the sole benefit of, the World Wide Defence Industry. Look where that is concentrated and you will be find the core of the problem. Spend as much as you will on Defence but do so wisely. Spend it building production facilities of your own. If you have to import components, make sure they do not come with any usage preconditions
@@yoda204luckily Sweden has a big domestic arms production
3% should at least be moderate given that security situation in Europe has taken a turn for worse.
Should be remembered that Sweden also are huge supporter of Ukraine and has one of he most modern military's in the world .
Europa Si deve difendere senza u.s.a. Siamo molto capaci.
Als Oekraïne neutraal was gebleven, zoals zij was voor de Maidan coup van 2014 en zoals was afgesproken als voorwaarde voor de Duitse hereniging, dan was er nu niets aan de hand geweest.
Europe has been slowly but surely made totally dependant on the US Defence Ind. That dependance must be removed at all cost. The lap dog moniker must go
With the current situation, approaching at least 4 % ASAP is definitely reasonable.
Currently the Europe is Spending 20% of NATO and these number are from the former nato general secretary , is an embarrassment.
To correct you a bit; 20% of a countrys annual defence expenditure must go to new equipment and development.
Percentage is a poor way of measuring as there's a rather big difference in costs for a lot of things from different countries, as just one example look at the prices Boeing charges for soap and other items. 🙈The only reason to buy American stuff is to avoid having too large stockpiles if the percentage is a fixed number. 😆
Keep Europe 🇪🇺 neutral. It will be better for Europe 🇪🇺 🙏 ❤️ ♥️ 💙 I am warning from the whole Universe because we are not alone in this Universe
With putler, no longer possible
Italian mimics and gestures are hardly understandable for Swedes. 🙂
Print paper like for banks
The best bluff ♠️
He is to little! 😂
He is Milhouse
Everyone is playing games that all will lose.
VERY TRUE
Putler will lose
Well said. I like how they are all casually dressed, well done. There’s much hope for the future ❤
All Europe is spending BIG on Immigrants Coming from Us warzones in Afghan and Middle East. Stupid Us wars for No reason.
Italians (can) do it better 😊
Mori!!!😂
spending money is poor substitute for a resolute defense policy and courage to act. when was the last time any country attacked a NATO country directly on home soil? all this talk of % is arbitrary. we made it this far without bankrupting ourselves over military spending, why start now?
2.5% of GDP is nothing. It must be at least 5%, plus the USA, as the lead NATO member, must approve the spending of this money
Europa is een continent waar Rusland het grootste land van is. De "Europese Unie" is NIET Europa.
Wrong
russia is not Europe
Presies
Most of Russians are Mongols.
@@ginniemess Europa is een continent en Rusland is het grootste land binnen Europa. Van de Europese landmassa is bijna tussen één derde en twee vierde Russisch. En Russisch is de meest gesproken inheemse taal van het Europese vasteland. Weet u wel waar Europa ligt?
Don't go on with NATO!!!! Europe can do it itself with all the other countries even with China.
NATO is the only way komrade
Please peace, love and neutrality!!!!
Sadly with putler in the world, neutrality is no longer a peaceful option