Why Soda Cans are Shaped Differently in Hawaii

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  • @SalisburySnake
    @SalisburySnake Год назад +6294

    We were on a US domestic flight recently, and my wife was served a Sprite that tasted diet, despite not being diet. Upon closer examination it was bottled in Great Britain, and their Sprite recipe has sugar and aspartame (no HFCS). The can was also slightly shorter than normal and only 330ml instead of 354.8ml (12oz). I realize this is not very interesting, but when you're stuck on a plane, it doesn't take much to interest you. I studied the can thoroughly before the trash cart came around.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Год назад +491

      Makes sense, food regulations are much stricter in the EU and GB, so they probably couldn't use some of the artificial sweeteners or not as much sugar as in the American recipe and 330ml is the standard size in the metric world, probably because 12oz converts to such an awkward number.

    • @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
      @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Год назад +176

      this is not really a thing anymore, but when i was a kid here in mexico, coke will taste diferent from one city to another due to the diference on the water quality on each place.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake Год назад +213

      @@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id "Mexican Coke" is pretty well known here in Texas. They use cane sugar instead of corn syrup, and it comes in tall glass bottles. To me it tastes the same, but the bottles are cool.

    • @AWESAM616
      @AWESAM616 Год назад +142

      Sprite used to taste sweeter in the UK but since the introduction of our high sugar tax Coke cut a lot of the sugar out of all their main products other than full sugar Coca Cola
      I don’t drink Fanta anymore because of it but that’s not necessarily a bad thing

    • @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
      @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Год назад +31

      ​@@SalisburySnake i actually think we switch to corn syrup at some point in the last decade, i remember there being a big thing on the news about the sugar cane industry wanting the goverment to stop this but they did not because of NAFTA.

  • @patriotbarrow
    @patriotbarrow Год назад +1784

    I love how HAI can make an answer as simple as ”retooling a factory is too expensive” into a 5 minute video.

    • @iaial0
      @iaial0 Год назад +116

      Retooling THAT factory is too expensive

    • @sproid
      @sproid Год назад +40

      Thank you. I was looking for the answer in the comments.

    • @Santor-
      @Santor- Год назад +64

      I don't think that actually is the answer. Rather that since they own the whole Hawaiian market, with no competitors, there is no reason to invest in cost reduction, as they sell all their cans anyway. Not like Pepsi all of a sudden will start buying cans from anyone else, cause there is no one else.

    • @siler7
      @siler7 Год назад +15

      But! All the hilarious jokes! You have a beer, but you don't have a beer? SO. FUNNY. I CAN'T BREATHE

    • @brokentombot
      @brokentombot Год назад +7

      It really puts the half in interesting.

  • @kirkwahmmett1666
    @kirkwahmmett1666 Год назад +691

    I collect vintage and international soda cans and I always thought it was odd that hawaiian cans looked almost exactly the same as some cans from the 80s. Now it makes a lot more sense.

    • @e.moonbound2420
      @e.moonbound2420 Год назад +11

      Which is the weirdest bevarage that comes in a can? Are you the guy who drinks them?

    • @kirkwahmmett1666
      @kirkwahmmett1666 Год назад +38

      @@e.moonbound2420 Well any of the old cans I've gotten have already been drunk but I do always get cans if I go to other countries and I do drink those but they are usually Coke cans. Now it didn't come out of a can but I had buffalo wing flavored soda once and I have to say its the weirdest beverage I've had before.

    • @e.moonbound2420
      @e.moonbound2420 Год назад +26

      @@kirkwahmmett1666 Wing flavor sounds like a war crime

    • @kirkwahmmett1666
      @kirkwahmmett1666 Год назад +33

      @@e.moonbound2420 It tastes like a war crime

    • @MarcusH...
      @MarcusH... Год назад +8

      @@kirkwahmmett1666 Can you describe the taste of war crime please?

  • @gayluigi4122
    @gayluigi4122 Год назад +553

    Hawaii felt like it’s own country when growing up there. The fast food menus are unique, 7 eleven sells actual food there that is good and worth buying, and even my poor public school had hand made meals every day.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Год назад +28

      Well it was hehe.

    • @sunnylilme
      @sunnylilme Год назад +34

      It's rough if you're a blond curly haired kid in school.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Год назад

      @@sunnylilme I heard they dislike whites. So it's true huh?

    • @sunnylilme
      @sunnylilme Год назад

      @@nunyabiznes33 depends on the area I guess. In Pahoa on the big island... "Wanna scrap haole?" If you cut.someone off in traffic, your race will.come.up. My friends with Italian kids did a lot better. Your stuff gets stolen A LOT if youre white too. They have a point. A lot of asshole folk over there. Starting with Cpt.cook, then missionaries, now millionaires and.karens. We moved back to.mainland in 2020.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Год назад +18

      @@sunnylilme well, good for you I guess. If it wasn't for the strategic location America probably would have let Hawaii and Puerto Rico go.

  • @TrogdorElite6
    @TrogdorElite6 Год назад +2299

    I used to work for Ball Corp (yes the one that owns the plant)as a Metal R/D Engineering (literally doing the R/D to make cans lighter and launch the new Ball Aluminum Cup) and know all about this, and Sam got it exactly right. The technical term for the "neck" of the Hawaiian can is called a "Quad Neck". It necks the can in 4 large operations making that distinct look from the 70's, versus the modern 211 cans with 202 ends have 14-20 necking operations making a smooth neck.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +46

      Speaking of getting it exactly right: ... Simon?

    • @TrogdorElite6
      @TrogdorElite6 Год назад +32

      @@lonestarr1490 Wow. Look at that F*** up. Sam! Corrected!

    • @Tarkov.
      @Tarkov. Год назад +8

      I fucking love those cups and wish they were just a little cheaper.

    • @AlanTheBeast100
      @AlanTheBeast100 Год назад +28

      When I was in high school we didn't call it "necking operations".

    • @sinepanigav4543
      @sinepanigav4543 Год назад +5

      Pretty cool. Is there a guy at Ball who gets to go on work trips to Hawaii?

  • @AvsJoe
    @AvsJoe Год назад +2138

    "Okay, so Hops as Interesting isn't real."
    You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Bravo!

    • @dauntingzebra7396
      @dauntingzebra7396 Год назад +7

      Ik, with their proximity to breweries in Denver (thanks jetlag) I would love to see it happen

    • @PetreckMusic
      @PetreckMusic Год назад +54

      you raised my *hops* 🤭

    • @thomasreese2816
      @thomasreese2816 Год назад +10

      Didn't actually raise any hops, since they aren't real

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +4

      @@thomasreese2816 How can mirrors be real if our hops aren't real?

    • @baconmcbacon62
      @baconmcbacon62 Год назад +8

      I wanted to try that beer, too! It really got my hops up about that beverage for them to fall flat.

  • @asdfasdf-iq9wx
    @asdfasdf-iq9wx Год назад +300

    Fun fact: Ball actually doesn't make Ball jars anymore. They sold off that part of their company years ago and license the Ball name to use on the jars. I think it's Jarden that actually makes them now.

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 Год назад +8

      Interesting. I recall the jars from my childhood, my grandmother canned everything under the sun.

    • @mharris5047
      @mharris5047 Год назад +7

      Jarden didn't even have any involvement in Ball jars. Ball sold that division before they morphed into Jarden (which is now part of Newfield-Rubbermaid). I don't know whether Newfield-Rubbermaid owns the Ball name, whether the Ball family still owns it or if the name trademark was sold to whomever they sold the jar division to. I actually went to university with one of the Ball family's daughters but that was well before Jarden came to be.

    • @ybunnygurl
      @ybunnygurl Год назад +22

      ​@@mharris5047 Newell Rubbermaid still is the maker of Ball/Kerr canning jars. I know I just bought some this fall that had a refund that came from Newell Rubbermaid.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Год назад

      Kinda like how, with few exceptions (Chicago being one), Donald Trump doesn't literally hire people to build buildings that he can put his name on. Other people build buildings and he just licenses his name to them because they think it will help their business to have his name on it, but he doesn't actually RUN anything there. He just gets a check every month or every year for doing nothing. He's basically the corporate office and they're franchisees.

    • @pamelaroyce5285
      @pamelaroyce5285 Год назад +2

      Good to know. I once temped for a few weeks in the office of the Ball glass factory in El Monte, California. The employees seemed proud to work for Ball, and of course the jars for preserves are a big part of Americana. Sorry there’s no longer direct involvement.

  • @strikeforceagent
    @strikeforceagent Год назад +161

    I live in Hawaii and I learned something new today. I've always wondered why Hawaiian Sun and Aloha Maid cans looked different.

    • @connorbayer4984
      @connorbayer4984 Год назад

      I would kill a man for flats/crates of the apple iced teas. All of em really.

    • @pezpengy9308
      @pezpengy9308 Год назад +1

      me too!

    • @thenatespecial2673
      @thenatespecial2673 Год назад +1

      i think it's time for you to wake up now. this is a dream.

    • @AbuHajarAlBugatti
      @AbuHajarAlBugatti Год назад +1

      Is hawaii still like the 90-2000s movies?

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 месяцев назад

      Meanwhile I imagine Singapore might have the best of both worlds if the cans of drinks it consumes were made in neighbouring Malaysia as it has a significantly lower cost of living/operation while also being near to Singapore

  • @PineappleForFun
    @PineappleForFun Год назад +2831

    The Engineering Guy video on this topic is the single most educational video ever released on RUclips. I'm not even exaggerating. It's fantastic.

    • @simonair
      @simonair Год назад +46

      Ludwig loves that guy

    • @baronvonlimbourgh1716
      @baronvonlimbourgh1716 Год назад +53

      It is pretty old but still the most amazing content on youtube for sure!
      Still one of my favorites.

    • @Tahoza
      @Tahoza Год назад +15

      It really is a very good video.

    • @MiamiMarkYT
      @MiamiMarkYT Год назад +13

      I’ve been watching that video like once a year since I started college. It’s an amazing video.

    • @bovanshi6564
      @bovanshi6564 Год назад +199

      The actual link to The Engineer Guy video ruclips.net/video/hUhisi2FBuw/видео.html

  • @1didnteatyourkids
    @1didnteatyourkids Год назад +396

    I feel like we need a hops as interesting now

  • @LPFR52
    @LPFR52 Год назад +140

    Fun fact about the Ball Corporation, they have an aerospace division which does some cutting edge work. For example they provided the main mirror assembly of the James Webb Space Telescope (you know, like arguably one of the most important parts of a multi billion dollar telescope).

    • @justincarter7954
      @justincarter7954 Год назад +6

      I mean it probably takes some serious engineering talent to optimize canning that far. I wonder if aerospace just made sense since they already had the talent and then it just bloomed from there

    • @tobascofred
      @tobascofred Год назад +11

      In the mid-80's I worked for MCI Telecommunications. One piece of test equipment we carried around were Rubidium Standards; essentially little atomic clocks for ultra precise timing requirements. They were manufactured by who? (drum roll...) a division of Ball!!!

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 Год назад +3

      Until this video I had only known them for their aerospace work. An interesting niche player ("boutique" might be more appropriate) going back to at least the 1960's. Mostly one-off specialized space equipment, vs say a whole constellation of communications satellites.

    • @panzersusmander3728
      @panzersusmander3728 9 месяцев назад

      They also made the lunar module windows, iirc

  • @RavenBomb123
    @RavenBomb123 Год назад +46

    Sometime mid-pandemic, I picked up some food from a local cafe and a soda which had a 206 cap. I live in Alaska, so I can only assume that supply chain issues (plus maybe reduced demand in Hawaii from tourism) resulted in us getting some 206s. We get 202s normally.

  • @jero7733
    @jero7733 Год назад +496

    As a soda can in Hawaii, I can confirm that I am built different.

    • @Brando56894
      @Brando56894 Год назад +20

      #NotLikeOtherSodaCans

    • @WindowsDrawer
      @WindowsDrawer Год назад +14

      True Soda male

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod Год назад +3

      I live in Hawaii and never knew they were different.

    • @timothyjones3410
      @timothyjones3410 Год назад +3

      Stay out of the other can's bathroom.

    • @706truth
      @706truth Год назад

      @@Novusod same

  • @daandanx
    @daandanx Год назад +392

    Truly, the most substantial of subjects being covered. Keep it up.

  • @tomburns5231
    @tomburns5231 Год назад +74

    These might only be found in Hawaii within the US, but they are found in many other countries and places. Here in Okinawa, Japan, they are somewhat common, for example.

    • @MCDreng
      @MCDreng Год назад +10

      Yeah I've always thought of this can as "Asian/Japanese can" because a lot of Japanese drinks have it.

    • @lancelott9171
      @lancelott9171 Год назад

      military?

    • @theelodgeovkeku3467
      @theelodgeovkeku3467 Год назад +3

      Taiwan too.

    • @rachelcookie321
      @rachelcookie321 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yea, I’ve definitely gotten cans like that from the Asian supermarket before.

    • @ianhorvath5791
      @ianhorvath5791 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@rachelcookie321yeah. All the fruit juice kind of drinks come in these cans

  • @1810jeff
    @1810jeff Год назад +33

    Japan actually makes a lot of cans with that same shape, I remember buying a can of pocari at an import shop and it had the same can shape. It was also noticably thicker and I suspect it was made out of steel but I never tested it so I don't know.

  • @mjrc123
    @mjrc123 Год назад +40

    “Canufacturing” excellent 😂

  • @gregweatherup9596
    @gregweatherup9596 Год назад +93

    I moved to the mainland many years back, and I sometimes thought I was noticing a minute difference. I figured I was either imagining it or it was just shrinkflation in action.

    • @Squarcialupi
      @Squarcialupi Год назад +1

      Reminds me of a joke about Gamecube discs -- only good for convincing your friend that their hands mysteriously doubled in size.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Год назад +16

    Yup, can confirm here in NY that Pepsi dominates. PepsiCo headquarters is in Purchase, Westchester County. There's an iconic vintage Pepsi-Cola sign right on the Long Island City waterfront and the reason why that is because Pepsi-Cola once had a bottling plant in Long Island City and the sign used to be on top of it. The facility has since closed and Pepsi moved its Queens operations to College Point, but the sign has remained and was relocated to Gantry Plaza State Park where it was designated a NYC landmark in 2016. I will say though that the point you have for Brooklyn at 2:31 should be on the neighborhood of Canarsie since that's where their Brooklyn bottling plant actually is.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Год назад +25

    Thanks! I lived in Hawai'i for 10 years, and I never noticed anything different about aluminum cans there. Living there definitely made me aware that shipping is priced by weight more than volume, though. Something as basic as canned soup is a fortune on the Islands compared to the Mainland.

  • @kuromad
    @kuromad Год назад +135

    I've had 206 cans containing imported coconut water (from Thailand I believe). Or at least, that is what I now believe they were. They had the weird neck thing. But they were really much heavier, not just the lid, everything. I found it odd that a non-carbonated drink was in such an overbuilt can.

    • @No-mq5lw
      @No-mq5lw Год назад +15

      I had a can of UCC coffee also using this can, and it was made of flipping steel. Felt like it could support my weight no problem. Same thing might apply to that coconut water, it might have been steel, not Aluminum.
      There might be a contamination issue with both of these drinks, which is why steel is used but I have no evidence for this. Just a hunch.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Год назад +84

      Non carbonated drinks need to be overbuilt. The pressure from the carbonation actually makes the can much stronger and more rigid.

    • @brunoglopes
      @brunoglopes Год назад +11

      Probably made of steel instead of aluminum. Those are pretty common in northeastern Brazil.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Год назад +11

      @@ieuanhunt552
      Wanna guess why non-carbonated drinks are in the exact same cans as carbonated drinks?
      Because they shoot a bit of liquid nitrogen inside, right before they put the lid on.
      There's a massive difference between something being in a can, and something being canned.
      The later involves basically cooking whatever is inside, while it's in the can. So they can't put any nitrogen in.
      Plus, the can has to be strong to survive the expansion of the food from the heat. It would take a lot of aluminum to do that.

    • @TheDuckofDoom.
      @TheDuckofDoom. Год назад +2

      It is a denting issue, and steel is cheaper for that design requirement.

  • @JoseTwitterFan
    @JoseTwitterFan Год назад +34

    Went to Puerto Rico 20 years ago, where they also used 206es for soft drinks back then before switching to the standard 202 cans.

  • @mason96575
    @mason96575 Год назад +20

    Thank you for the size comparison to the EPCOT ball- I wouldn't have understood it otherwise!

  • @665hp
    @665hp Год назад +7

    3:48 "In a market as small and remote as Hawaii's, changing all the equipment in the can factory, not to mention the bottling plants to suit the *larger* lid"
    "larger" should be "smaller"

  • @WackoMcGoose
    @WackoMcGoose Год назад +48

    I did always wonder why Hawaiian Sun fruit juice cans were shaped that way, now I know. Thanks, HAI! Good luck on your brewing license!

  • @matthewjumamoy8047
    @matthewjumamoy8047 Год назад +8

    Love the callout of the Hawaiian Nene. Great birds.

  • @majestyk3337
    @majestyk3337 8 месяцев назад +2

    Parts of Canada was still making steel soda cans with rivets up the side, up until 1988.

  • @LillikoiSeed
    @LillikoiSeed Год назад +3

    What I love about our cans, is that you can fit one of those little plastic lids that you get your to go dressings from directly on top of it; fits perfectly. Also keeps it from getting stale or flat.

  • @insertphrasehere15
    @insertphrasehere15 Год назад +3

    I suspect that Ball gets to use a lot of their old machinery and spare parts from their old factories elsewhere (before the switch) in Hawaii, so that helps too.

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple Год назад +4

    I've never been 100% sold on your channel, but this is a really fun and fascinating little trivia video! Loved it!

  • @GamingRoadkill
    @GamingRoadkill 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for your comparison to the Epcot Golf Ball as it really helped me understand the concept

  • @Habreno
    @Habreno Год назад +4

    This is actually surprising, as I suspected (wrongly) it was due to shipping the cans and the shipment needing more stable stacking, with the larger lids providing that more stable foundation for stacking.

  • @Hazukashiii
    @Hazukashiii Год назад +17

    That’s interesting. I was born and raised in Hawaii up until I moved to NJ. And I’ve always thought the “Hawaiian” can design would be the same even on the mainland. I guess I’ve never really noticed the difference lol

    • @Brando56894
      @Brando56894 Год назад +6

      As someone that grew up in NJ, why the hell would you move from a tropical paradise to the armpit of the northeast?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Год назад +2

      @@Brando56894 Dunno where he came from but some places in Hawaii are quite shitty. It's not all sunshine and luaus.

    • @StarsRShiney
      @StarsRShiney Год назад +1

      @@Brando56894 If Hawaii isn't the most expensive place to live in the US, it's definitely in competition with NYC and large California cities. Sometimes you just have to move somewhere cheaper in order to live

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp Год назад +18

    I love laying on a Hawaiian beach just enjoying the view of all the cans.

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead Год назад +2

      I like looking at the buns.🤪

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Год назад +2

      @@TamagoHead
      I'm on the low fat, high protein bun diet myself. 😄

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead Год назад

      @@lordgarion514 👍🤣🤣🤣

  • @1163562
    @1163562 10 месяцев назад +2

    My great uncle, who was an engineer, worked for the company contracted by Coors in the 70s. He was on the team that invented the push tab style cans we have now.

  • @mikesweeney2324
    @mikesweeney2324 10 месяцев назад +3

    As someone who previously worked in the beer industry and visited Hawaii a few times, thank you for this. I always wondered why. Those 206 cans stack so much better than the 202s.

  • @SethMethCS
    @SethMethCS Год назад +13

    How long will this last? I imagine the tooling will wear out eventually, and then it will be economical to retrofit to the modern can lid diameter?

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Год назад +5

      The companies that buy their cans would probably pay them to use the same size.
      The drink companies have to put the lids on after putting the drink in. That would require them buying all new equipment.

    • @SteelPaladin1997
      @SteelPaladin1997 2 месяца назад

      Those parts have likely worn out and been replaced multiple times already. Replacing parts for wear and/or accidental breakage is going to happen a few at a time. That means they have to replace them with the same design, or the new parts will be incompatible with the rest of their process (and the processes of their partner businesses).
      The cost and complexity of redoing a major, interdependent process like this is that you have to do it all at once.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Год назад +25

    If by "anywhere else in the world" you mean America (as so many Americans often do) then yes, you're correct. If you've been to anyway in Asia though, you'll likely have seen this can shape before. I've been to Vietnam and saw these cans there, and I get beverages from Japan and Taiwan too where these cans are also used. So it's by no means "only used in Hawaii". And what you identify as the Ball Corp Container factory is the Coca-Cola bottling plant near the airport. The Ball Corp factory is 13 miles west on Komohana St in Kapolei (south-west end of Oahu...coincidently 500 yds away from the Coca-Cola Syrup Plant). What you identify as the Coca-Cola Bottling plant is the Pepsi Bottling plant (which is only 2 miles north of the Coca-Cola plant).

  • @Patrick2480
    @Patrick2480 Год назад +1

    Hawaiian BBQ/Poke shops/restaurants that have a Hawaiian theme in So Cal carry those Hawaiian theme sodas.

  • @reetyul88
    @reetyul88 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Sam, good job on this!! Even if a few details were a bit off, you clearly put in a lot of effort to understand a complicated topic, and I appreciate you.

  • @BobaBuwan
    @BobaBuwan Год назад +22

    Here’s another fun fact about Hawaii vs Mainland things: the McDonald’s Apple pie is still deep fried in Hawaii while it’s now baked in the mainland! (I’m born and raised in Hawaii)

    • @pezpengy9308
      @pezpengy9308 Год назад

      sacrilege!

    • @michelleb7399
      @michelleb7399 Год назад +3

      I miss those deep fried pies. Next time I’m in Hawai’i I’ll have to go to McDonalds for one. I wish they still had the cherry pies. Sure they burned my tongue most the time, but they were still sweet, flaky, and delicious.

    • @kgb4187
      @kgb4187 Год назад +2

      @@michelleb7399 Popeye's Chicken has deep fried apple pies

    • @frf006
      @frf006 Год назад +2

      @@michelleb7399 you got to get the taro pies if they have while you’re in Hawaii. Infinitely better than apple.

    • @marcusdamberger
      @marcusdamberger Год назад +1

      I totally forgot they used to be deep fried and could burn your tongue. When did they switch to baked? 20 years ago? P.S. it was 1992, so 30+ years ago.

  • @TheDarkbluerock
    @TheDarkbluerock Год назад +18

    One question: Why is Hops as Interesting not a thing?

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Год назад +7

    Okay, allow to explain what the Epcot Golf Ball actually is: It's Spaceship Earth and it's not a golf ball but a GEODESIC SPHERE. And inside this geodesic sphere is a whole omnimover (a special system created by Disney's Imagineers) ride with a time machine experience learning the history of communication as you ascend. Originally the ride wasn't supposed to be inside the sphere completely as an early concept model from 1978 showed it would've had a bigger building attached to it for the ride and only enter the sphere briefly but they made all inside because...why not? That wand next to it in the pic at 0:46 was added for the Millennium Celebration but wasn't removed until 2007...good riddance.

  • @warriorson7979
    @warriorson7979 Год назад +10

    In my country up until about 20 years ago, the soda cans also had those rolled ridges at the top, but that was because the cans were made from steel. The moment they switched to aluminium it became smooth.

  • @jgjg5182
    @jgjg5182 Год назад +4

    I'm guessing this is probably why Puerto Rican soda cans are also different compared to those in the states as well, except they're probably easier on the aluminum considering that the lids are smaller than those of Hawaii

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 Год назад +9

    2:35
    If i was the CEO of Coca Cola right now, i would be advertising "Proudly Made with Capilano Reservoir Water" here in BC.
    Had no idea bottling plants had to be close to their target destination.
    You can do so much advertising with that bro.
    We here in Vancouver love our water quality, and love our first nations history.
    The advertising oppurtunity would be insane considering they basically dont have to change anything lol

    • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
      @hewhohasnoidentity4377 Год назад +2

      The syrup that is used in the bottling process contains ingredients engineered to remove any flavoring or mineral taste from locally sourced water. Coca Cola needs to taste the same in NYC, Detroit, Los Angeles and in BC.
      Advertising that it is bottled using local water would be the opposite of the goal.

  • @RHNCG21
    @RHNCG21 Год назад +3

    4:04 the disclaimer is so funny tho

  • @nikolainyegaard
    @nikolainyegaard Год назад +1

    At 3:49, you described how it would not be profitable to switch to the larger lids, when what you meant is that it wouldn’t be profitable to switch to the smaller* lids.

  • @homiedaclown4381
    @homiedaclown4381 Год назад +8

    Sam, if you ever get into the business, we will expect you to deliver on Hops as Interesting

  • @TechReviewProduction
    @TechReviewProduction Год назад +14

    I live in Hawaii and I literally have a Made in Hawaii Pepsi can, a Hawaiian Sun and a regular Mountain Dew can on my desk right now... I was wondering why they were different

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fun fact, the 202/206 denomination is just their diameter in mm. Metric is simpler, 3 numbers instead of a whole math equation. And if you want it in larger units just move the . One spot and you got cm (20.2), or 2 places from the 202 to get meters (0.202) or even 6 places to get km (0.00202km)
    And the unit tells how much to move. Centi-meter is one cent of a meter, i ie 100 less, ie 2 ceros, 2 spots.
    A kilometer is a kilo (a thousand) meters, ie 202 / 100 / 1000

  • @I_Did_That_46
    @I_Did_That_46 Год назад +4

    0:54 Me, an American, hoping they would give me a metric conversion....
    ..."Epcot Golf Ball..." Yeah, what the actual F kind of scale is that

    • @DriverEra.
      @DriverEra. 4 месяца назад

      an american one that i can understand

  • @anokata-kd8oc
    @anokata-kd8oc Год назад +3

    I'm from Germany and even I recognize the "Ball" can brand immediately. They're everywhere.

  • @justinmayfield6579
    @justinmayfield6579 9 месяцев назад +2

    Finally! One of those tidbit channels with actual good script writing 👏👏👏

  • @Gamepro2112
    @Gamepro2112 Год назад +1

    I think this is the first time one of your videos that I had actually asked the question to myself before seeing this video. I lived there for 3 years and noticed the difference but didn’t know why

  • @jordanwood5992
    @jordanwood5992 Год назад +5

    I'm already looking forward to seeing "hops as interesting" on shelves 😂

  • @Hapasan808
    @Hapasan808 Год назад +13

    I live in Hawaii, and I thought it was odd that A&W had a smaller top (202 lid). Now from this video, I can deduce that it probably means it was shipped here from the Mainland.
    Also I did notice that all our Pepsi cans say "Made in Hawaii."

  • @marscaleb
    @marscaleb Год назад +2

    3:38 hey I've delivered pizzas to that manufacturing plant!

  • @gerald7tham
    @gerald7tham Год назад +1

    Until recently, cans that look similar to the 206s were used in Singapore by the Jia Jia company (selling Asian herbal tea). They've made the switch to "normal" cans recently

  • @ImAssassinX
    @ImAssassinX Год назад +3

    This definitely should have been a Wendoiver video. This was WAY more than Half as Interesting.

    • @iamthinking2252_
      @iamthinking2252_ Год назад +1

      then again, another comment was essentially saying it just boils down to "retooling a factory is expensive"

  • @jeffodabear
    @jeffodabear Год назад +4

    I work as a beverage packager! Thanks for making this video, cans don't get a lot of love!

  • @bkailua1224
    @bkailua1224 Год назад +1

    yep and my dad was involved in the change from 3 piece welded cans to 2 piece aluminum cans in Hawaii at the Dole Can plant.

  • @Discordisnotagoodthing
    @Discordisnotagoodthing Год назад +1

    Thank you for telling me this I’ve been losing sleep over this and now I finally know

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something Год назад +3

    Continue with these nice videos with questions every single human has!

  • @calum5975
    @calum5975 Год назад +6

    You sometimes find drinks in asian stores in the UK in these cans. I'm assuming they're actually Hawaiian, I know there's a massive japanese influence so I can see "asian" drinks actually being manufactured in Hawaii.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Год назад +1

      Same with those coconut beverages u can find, especially in vancouver.
      Gotta love hawaii. Possibly one of the nicest states ever.

    • @korakys
      @korakys Год назад

      Probably not. Japan has a unique approach when it comes to packaging: the more, the better.

    • @calum5975
      @calum5975 Год назад

      @@korakys not sure I understand? Japan doesn't produce cans in these dimensions, it's a purely Hawaiian thing. The cans have to be Hawaiian.

    • @korakys
      @korakys Год назад

      @@calum5975 It was explained in the video: shipping cans long distances is expensive. Making a billion cans in Hawaii just to ship them to Japan to be filled doesn't make sense.
      Much more likely that Japan also has its own old machines and for whatever reason hasn't optimised the design for price efficiency. This is probably because Japan is a bit obsessive about food packaging.

  • @paulyiustravelogue
    @paulyiustravelogue Год назад

    I laughed out loud and almost choked on my coffee when “Hops As Interesting” popped up… geez… you almost killed me, Sam 😂

  • @mauna2004
    @mauna2004 Год назад

    This explains so much! We have cans with coupons for our state fairs and water park. I always wondered how they got those on there.

  • @Etrancical
    @Etrancical Год назад +7

    I never knew that soda is packed locally wherever it is bought. But it makes sense cause as you said, why should you have to spend money transporting water instead of just the syrup?

    • @saveddijon
      @saveddijon Год назад +1

      You don't even transport the syrup. Syrup is just water, sugar and flavorings. You transport the flavorings, and let the local plant do the rest.
      In Canada soda is made with sugar. In the US, sugar is too expensive, so high-fructose corn syrup is used instead. That's why Canadian Coke tastes different than American Coke, even though the core flavoring, made in Atlanta, is identical.

  • @GregDalin
    @GregDalin Год назад +3

    being from hawaii, i had to go check my coke zero can and a Kirkland can and wow.. never realized that

  • @ryanburnham1932
    @ryanburnham1932 10 месяцев назад +1

    We had been getting them in Alaska, at least for Coca-cola products, but that was probably as a result of that factory taking up some slack when supply lines were struggling during Covid and Hawaii likely not having their previous demand without tourists but that is all speculation.

  • @xqiuvmah
    @xqiuvmah 11 месяцев назад

    I was a truck driver and used to occasionally pick up some beer from budweiser. I would then drive 48,000 lbs of beer nearly 600 miles to its distribution facility.

  • @Achilles3666
    @Achilles3666 Год назад +3

    I don't think those cans are exclusive to Hawaii. During my time living in Tokyo, I notice a lot of cans shaped like that in Japanese vending machines.

  • @CuriouslyObscureChannel
    @CuriouslyObscureChannel Год назад +5

    So next time you're enjoying a refreshing drink in Hawaii, take a moment to appreciate the unique design of the can!

  • @Joshuafukumoto
    @Joshuafukumoto Год назад +1

    Just wanted to say you nailed the pronunciation of Kapolei

  • @kylefrancis6451
    @kylefrancis6451 Год назад

    I’ve lived here for almost a decade now and always wondered why this was. Thank you so much!

  • @deliciouschicken
    @deliciouschicken Год назад +3

    Hey Sam! Quick question, how do you apply for a copyright on a brand name? Asking for a friend of course.

  • @tehcubsfan
    @tehcubsfan Год назад +2

    I think I would actually buy and drink at Hops As Interesting drink honestly. If ya'll made it, i'd support it.

  • @Army12Bravo236
    @Army12Bravo236 8 месяцев назад

    I travel to Hawaii yearly. Always wondered why the cans were different, and today I learned. 🤙

  • @brokentombot
    @brokentombot Год назад

    I like how at the end he acts like he was part of making Nebula. No way this stock footage dude who drags out a simple topic is that creative.

  • @nomore-constipation
    @nomore-constipation Год назад +7

    Enjoying the content so I can tell my spouse about it and she gives me the look of "why do I care"
    Which is where I tell her, now you have a little bit of trivia to talk about when you're sitting there with awkward silence

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine Год назад

      Please learn how to punctuate. Enjoy that content.

  • @SekayeK
    @SekayeK Год назад +3

    Chat GPT told me it was for cultural reasons. I gave it this explanation instead and it went: “oh you’re right! I was just speculating before.”
    It’s not coming for our jobs yet folks

    • @jbird4478
      @jbird4478 Год назад +1

      It also just as confidently says "I was just speculating" even though that isn't true either. It doesn't speculate, and it doesn't know whether anything it says is true or not.

  • @ScottMStolz
    @ScottMStolz Год назад +1

    I vaguely remember when they changed the cans. I remember when I first bought sodas with the new smaller tops, and thought they looked odd. I liked the bigger lids better.

  • @nashleysk8er
    @nashleysk8er Год назад

    Crazy. I just happen to be on holiday in Maui and noticed these cans and wondered why? Good timing HAI!

  • @SystemSmort
    @SystemSmort Год назад +3

    what can a can do that another can cannot? 🤔

  • @sandervdbrink84
    @sandervdbrink84 Год назад +3

    So you are able to compare it with some oversized golf ball, but can't mention the size in metric, like almost the whole world uses?

  • @disfuncionexe
    @disfuncionexe 8 месяцев назад

    I remember seeing cans with ridges all the way down when I went to maui

  • @JeroenJoosten
    @JeroenJoosten Год назад

    I've lived in Hawaii for about 15 years now, never noticed this. Going to have to keep an eye out next time I'm in the store.

  • @Ryan-eh7be
    @Ryan-eh7be Год назад +3

    Hey I was just in Hawaii in December and I noticed the same things with the canned coffee. And Fun fact, the cans are also a lot heavier and thicker, you know how easy it is to crush a soda can into itself with one hand regularly? Well not in hawaii, I have no idea why but their cans are so thick that you need both hands to wrap around the can to even make a dent in it, me and my friends were all fascinated by it, it was so cool!

    • @TheDuckofDoom.
      @TheDuckofDoom. Год назад

      Coffee is not carbonated soda....

    • @Ryan-eh7be
      @Ryan-eh7be Год назад

      @@TheDuckofDoom. it’s in the same type of can. The one manufacturer does all cans on the islands

  • @StickyBandit98
    @StickyBandit98 Год назад +3

    I've always wondered this. Said no one ever 🤣

    • @monitor1939
      @monitor1939 Год назад

      This channel is the epitome of, never wondered, always wanted to know kind of stuff

  • @tpresto9862
    @tpresto9862 2 месяца назад

    Fun fact: The Ball Corporation (through its subsidiary Ball Aerospace) also develops spacecraft for NASA and others. That is, until literally a week ago when Ball sold off its aerospace company to BAE.

  • @ACDBunnie
    @ACDBunnie Год назад

    Ball also sells aluminum cups that they sell at the grocery store. I find them a good option as a college student who's too lazy or busy to do dishes, but still wants to recycle instead of throwing tons of plastic into the landfill. They're reusable so if you want to do dishes and get more use out of them, you can. But if you just can't be bothered, you can recycle it.

  • @irrelevant2235
    @irrelevant2235 8 месяцев назад +4

    I really don't appreciate the humor in your video. Just providing the facts is all that is needed.

  • @isaaclikins5383
    @isaaclikins5383 Год назад +5

    In this video you implied that the ball corporation makes the glass jars, but that product line was given to a subsidiary that spun off into its own company in the 90's, so technically the ball corporation does not make glass jars. Besides that it was a great video!

  • @sintanan469
    @sintanan469 Год назад +1

    If I remember right I learned this before...
    The Hawaiian cans use a different die to stamp the cans since the product is made locally.
    Time to see if I remember right.

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal 2 месяца назад +1

    RUclips, where it takes five minutes to explain things that would ordinarily take thirty seconds

  • @christopherr8441
    @christopherr8441 Год назад +3

    I went to Hawaii on vacation recently and I noticed this bit didn't think too much about it. When I was there I bought a few canned drinks like Thai Tea with boba and plain old Coke. The can's feel very different. Another thing to know is that aside from the size being different the shape of the opening is different. Thank you for informing me on this topic. I now know *why* the cans are different

  • @oggilein1
    @oggilein1 Год назад +21

    If by "anywhere else in the world" you mean america (as so many amercans often do) then yes you're correct
    If you've been to anyway in Asia though you'll likely have seen this can shape before. Ive seen it used on beverages from japan, vietnam and taiwan numerous times so its by no means "only used in hawaii"

  • @thecactusman17
    @thecactusman17 Год назад

    Ball's Fairfield plant is just 3 miles from the Anheuser-Busch beer factory in Fairfield which brews, packages and distribute Budweiser and other A-B beers across the west coast. They used to offer factory tours and their canning facility was absolutely incredible to see in person, hundreds of cans rolling off the line every minute non-stop.

    • @jameskirkland3187
      @jameskirkland3187 Год назад

      And the Jelly Belly factory is a mile away from that.

    • @thecactusman17
      @thecactusman17 Год назад

      @@jameskirkland3187 they don't really do jars. I mean they probably do, but not on the same scale as the brewers and soft drink manufacturers in the area.

  • @Gurumeierhans
    @Gurumeierhans Год назад

    Thanks for the conversion into Standard-Epcot-Golfball Units!

  • @harysuper
    @harysuper Год назад +3

    I had no idea about this! I love enjoying a Hawaiian Sun here in CA when a restaurant offered it. I thought the slightly different can was just a style choice. I know know the real reason why they are different!