@@nomad6-1 Even if it were owned by the federal government it would still be unincorporated LA County (although it seems it's LA City, but not the point here); the federal government is a landowner, not a jurisdiction. A better way to think about it, (at least in CA) unincorporated county areas just mean there is no incorporated city, you're either in a city or not (unincorporated county). So it's possible to be in/on federal land that is in a city, say in a federal office building, or federal land that is in unincorporated county, like a national park or large military base. Hope that helps!
I knew about Vernon in modern times but I didn't realize it started corrupt right from the very start. True Detective season 2 was based around a fictional version of Vernon.
@@jokubas3391 I'm not sure what to tell you if you saw this video and didn't understand the corruption and didn't decide to do a basic google search on Vernon to find out more. It was massively corrupt to the point where they only allowed city employees to be residents and basically bribed and forced what voters did exist to vote for them. Then they took huge salaries and all kinds of kickbacks plus used city funds for personal expenses. What else do you need to be convinced the city was corrupt?
@@jokubas3391 The workers and residents of the surrounding cities. The taxes are being funneled to the city government's leadership, instead of services for the people who live in the area.
@@Morbos1000 Well you're making the assumption that the "city" is public, and not private. It's clearly just a company town, and there's nothing wrong with it, because it doesn't offend anyone. Can you explain how the town "forced" remaining residents to vote? Because if it's just "bribes", then whats the problem? Then those people are lucky and are paid a tax for being original residents of the town.
You need to do a video on Rosemont, IL. It literally surrounds O'Hare airport, and their housing is literally limited to town employees in a single small community that profit off all the taxes and entertainment for being next to one of the US' busiest airports. People say if you drive through their residential area the cops will constantly pull you over and ask what you are doing over and over again.
Never have I been pulled over by the Rosemont police. That being said - we are talking Illinois / Chicago area - we are known for our outstanding corruption.
Donald E. Stephens - the man, convention center, and the longest serving mayor in the US. - at the time of his death. Succeeded by: Bradley Stephens - his son. Gotta love Chicago area politics - here, it's considered a full-contact sport!
I love that tidbit- was working at a convention and found myself wiki-ing the place because I saw it referred to as ‘the Village of Rosemont’ and at the time I was frequently fighting my friends on what’s considered ‘the city’ . Turns out it has a comparable population to the teeny tiny suburban town on the Wis-Ill border and that really messed me up as even my most conservative definition of Chicago was ‘anything past the airport’ yet here was a “smaller” town than my know-everyone-in-town village. Definitely sus
Vernon is the most absurd instance of this but this is how California tax law basically mandates cities be run- maximize the commercial tax base while keeping the housing supply scarce and the population as small as possible.
@@usernamefreaks property taxes in general are very tightly capped by proposition 13, so residential development, which only generates property tax revenue and comes with people who require lots of services, are net negative on city budgets. So they instead have to focus on concentrating as much commercial development as possible to generate sales tax and business tax revenue, ideally sale tax from people who live outside the city and come in to spend money or work
@johner that predates proposition 13 but it is the reason that some of the smaller, more office/commercial/industrial based municipalities are extremely successful and have fantastic city services while the larger and more residential cities tend to be always broke
It's not bizarre at all, if you know how corrupt LA is. It's also not particularly unusual. Consider how Nevada, 32nd in population and 42nd in pop density is next to California, 1st in population and 17th in density.
most cheap drop shipped items i purchase on ebay come from the 'city of industry' it must be warehouses owned by the wealthy offspring of some han chinese factory owners. a way for them to sneak currency out of china
@@TimothyStuder Less corruption and more "Keep the tax revenues out of the hands of those undeserving minorities in Compton" kind of redlining. So the story may seen as be worse.
I used to work in Vernon. It is right outside downtown Los Angeles. It is a pit! It is all warehouses, factories, slaughter houses, etc. Parts of the town stank to high heaven.
Yeah that’s the pig slaughterhouse. They hire illegals and pay them bonuses with pig meat. I’ve heard that they like working there cause it pays more than other places
Nationalists who burble about Making America Great Again forget that moving the industry "back home" from China would mean sacrificing swathes of there country to this very Vernonification. Our modern lifestyle depends on nastiness. We have just off-shored much of it.
A lot of people are suggesting various cities, presumably due to similar types of corruption. But if you're looking for a city that is notable for a _different_ reason, then let me suggest Huron, California. It has two nicknames. One is "The Poorest City in California" due to it having a shit economy-it used to not even have its own high school and (I don't know if this is normal or not) its Chamber of Commerce has _sponsors._ I don't mean unofficial, under-the-table sponsors; I mean sponsors that are proudly advertised on their home webpage. Its other nickname... is "Knife Fight City." I have nothing to add to that one.
I’ve lived only miles from Vernon my whole life and never knew it had such a small population. I only know it as the town that most of my packages pass through before getting delivered to me.
The guy is a liar. This is Los Angeles. The land hasn't been farmland for around a century. It's freaking near DownTown. second, it was owned by a Basque, and it was probably used for sheep back then and it's probably dry. It might be able to be used as Farmland, but knowing the Basque, he left it for grazing.
The only tying I know of that city is it's home to the McDonald's that is never open, because they use it in movies and TV shows if they need a Mickey D's.
then it's no different from Vernon. This video is Los Angeles propaganda to steal Vernons tax revenue. A city is suppose to work for those who live there. So how is it corruption when they give stuff to them. And a city has o obligation to help those who illegally moved there, and worse, try to vote. It's actually the first example of election rigging on wikipedia. Outsiders coming in to distort the vote of those who naturally live there.
I used to work in Vernon. Some big companies produce out of there and they're insane cause basically every factory outsources their work to agencies to pay people half of what they would get had they worked for the company.
Vernon is one of the few places in the Los Angeles area you can park and spend the night in Southern California in a semi truck. If I'm actual LA I'll sleep there, otherwise I'll sleep in Mira Loma. It's like the city of industry it's industrial with a few random residents
His whole story is a group of lies and half truth, probably based on lies the city of Los Angeles is spreading to grab Vernons tax revenue. How do you call a city corrupt, when it does what a city is suppose to. To bring the well being of those who live there. It isnt corruption when you evict people try to illegally live in the city and vote . Frankly those who illegally moved in is practicing election rigging. It's the first example of election rigging on wikipedia.
Ive grown up in echo park right outside downtown spending tons of time in chinatown which buts up right on Vernon. I've driven through it countless times and never know it was its own city. The video somewhat makes out Vernon to be some sort of real "city" but it is nothing more than 5 square miles of creepy vibes and huge ass industrial buildings, junk yards empty sidewalks and a yoshinoia with a spiked fence around the outdoor seating area that all just buts up against downtown LA. They do have some pretty crazy raves down there though.
@@soundscape26 Yes, it is not a real "city". I do business in Vernon and it is basically a town designated to industrial transport. It is adjacent to the DTLA industrial district, adjacent to the I-5 & 1-10 crossing and huge rail junction. Tracks literally separate buildings in certain parts.
The guy is lying about Vernon. It was made to protect the landowner from corrupt and racist Californians from grabbing land from Hispanics. THe original owner was Basque and he incorporated and restricted who lived there so he can retain control of his own land.
this video is filled with lies and half truths. Vernon was created by a Basque man because he saw California stealing land from Hispanics, and wanted to protect it from being seized. He incorporated it and control who lived there, so he can retain control of his own land. Last I heard, his family still controls it and only allow people friendly to his family to live so the election always favor them retaining control.
I lived and went to school in Vernon city when I was young. I lived on Pacific and 54th Street. It's was the best school ever. Better than LA county thanks to all the money donated by businesses for tax breaks. At least their donations went somewhere good. The best gift from one of big businesses was free Disneyland trip for entire school in the late 90s. Was best because most of students didn't come from money. We also got trips to museums. LA city school district got jealous and legit told the school we couldn't be going on to many field trips even though they were paid for by companies. They would donate stuff for Christmas some years. Like shoes one time and every year a free polyester backpack wasn't best but it was free and some free school supplies to each student. Even Laura bush went to visit the school on my last year there. It was thanks to the special Ed aide who wrote in some contest of some sort. What donations from rich can do for small community makes a difference for children. Idk if it's like that still, but it was like that in the late 90s.
This is why you can't buy a house in City of Commerce. Because of all the business there, they get a lot of money, and the money goes to the residence. You pay for it, because it's an industrial area, and have to live with less than ideal air quality. But I like to state, no one there is complaining, because the benefits out way the faults.
I used on the town right over, Maywood, which the industry in Vernon uses for its cheap immigrant labor. Never knew it had such history, adding onto its already it’s complicated situation with stuff like environmental pollution.
The history you heard is full of half truths and lies. It is built by a Basque man who was afraid of California seizing his land because they were doing it to Hispanics. He incorporated to prevent losing the land, because he control who lives there and therefor who controls the city.
this is kind of like Lentokenttä, a district of Vantaa, Finland. 8 people actually live there, but employs over 11,000 people. of course, if you’re Finnish, the district name already tipped you off: it’s where the Helsinki-Vantaa airport is.
I used to work for a co. in Vernon. There was one vicious dog that used to roam Pacific Blvd and nestled on the doorstep of the co. beside ours. They called in the city animal control and they just lazily placed a big cage, with food in it, 2 feet from the dog instead of actually catching the mutt. This is the city "service" you expect from this corrupt city.
apart from tax laws and mobsters businesses, this has a lot to do with how administrative divisions work in the usa. i don't think there are many countries where a handful of "residents" can take an area that correspond to a few city blocks and turn it into a city
You see, it was the other way around A handful of "residents" took an area that was nothing and had no value (remember "bucolic" from the video?) and turned farmland into high value city blocks filled with business and industry. That these "residents" also knew that allowing residents to move in would dilute their power, and thus restricted housing to suit themselves... is their choice Regards
Another local here (Hollywood). On a hot day, you could smell Vernon from the one ten. Another weird city is not too far from Vernon: The City of Industry. It has about 250 inhabitants, a very small number given its proximity to downtown Los Angeles.
My grandpa was a welder at farmer johns back in the day. He said it smelled disgusting and that the only parts of the pig that they didn’t use were the teeth and hair. Ewwwww. 🤢
Interesting... I came across this video while doing some digging about some of the companies that are located there. A major brand I purchase from often has their headquarters located in Vernon, CA. Vernon, although small geographically and population wise, is incorporated, which explains it's autonomy in terms of government and authority.
I would say this on Nebula, but It would be easier to watch on there if I could make a playlist. Or at least autoplay another related video. I love the content, but the platform has room for improvement.
Interesting. I worked at the LA food bank there and it was always so depressing, a lot of homeless and abandoned animals there, the slaughter house was two streets over, trash everywhere, there is one strip of houses outside the food bank where a lot of Hispanics lived
The original person isn't named Maulburg. They might of married into the family that founded the city. As I recall, it was a Basque family that owned the land.
Better yet, how the cereal industry was propped up by the federal government and promoted as healthy which created an epidemic of obesity and type two diabetes
You can't actually do that in the Philippines. There's a population requirement to be called a town or cities. For cities it should have a population of 100k and also meets area requirement. No other authority can make or create local subdivisions except the National Congress. So when a population become too low, cities run the risk of being incorporated in a larger politicial subdivisionm
The administrative divisions in the United States are quite complex. Here in Brazil there is no unincorporated area, every territory will be within a municipality.
In the American Northeast (New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania), the states are divided into townships. Which are considered "municipalities" of a lower level but still incorporated. The counties in those states are somewhat unimportant. In California, however, Counties are still important. Even in Los Angeles County, there are communities that are not formally incorporated but are legally administered by the County government. Counties typically oversee social services, lower level courts, jails, etc.
We had 1 of those a short distance a short distance away from where I am. Fraser Mills was established to give a lumber mill it's own town to reduce it's tax bill because almost nobody lived there. It was merged with Coquitlam, BC in the 70s.
With only a few hundred people, such a settlement in Western Canada would have been dissolved into a surrounding regional district or county well into the 70's or 80's. I think small and corrupt corporate towns are specifically one reason why we developed the Regional District system, which replaces them with large and corrupt unwieldly bureaucracies where nothing can get done unless it is to refuse services or development.
I'm guessing City of Industry, about 20 miles up the 60 Freeway from Vernon, is equally corrupt. I started thinking about this when the street City Hall is on was renamed Mayor Dave Way.
SNPJ (iniitials standing for Slovene National Benefit Society) was the smallest town in Pennsylvania until the residents of Centralia moved out and there are only 5 left. There are only 15 people in SNPJ. The only reason it exists is because the township it was in didn't allow beer sales on Sundays. By creating a new municipality, they could change that rule.
Pennsylvania liquor laws are stuck in the 1930s because the state runs the liquor stores and it's unionized, it's the Mafia in cahoots with the government to control power and kickback to democrat politicians so it never changes
Similar machinations are found in City of Industry, CA, which is also in the LA metro area--take a look at how the borders are drown so as to minimize residential areas.
Vernon existed for some time, before Los Angeles is that big. For the city to be a bucolic farm land so close to downtown los Angeles, it would be around a century atleast. The city was built to protect the landowner from racist state government seizing lands formerly owned by Hispanics. Technically the owner was Basque. City of industry took land that was further away and added business, and when its filled they added more land latter. THats why the city is so long. They just bought out all the unincorporated land in the area.
Maybe this town is like in Halloween 3, where the town is corporated controlled like a dystopia, and a mask maker is the leader of the town bent on witchcraft and is a Pagan Witch who is making a ritual involving dead children, Festival of Samhain
the guy isn't telling the full truth. It was built by a basque man. he saw the state seizing land from Hispanics, and incorporated and controlled who lived there to prevent his home from being stolen. Him or latter family members figured out how to be rich , using the land. This video is probably based on corrupt Los Angeles politicians trying to steal Vernons tax revenue.
@@slewone4905 you maybe right.. but for most of my life I lived in the low bottoms which is right next to Vernon.. and it still amazes me how that city has more history than what the naked eye could see… imo sir or ma’am.
The tide is turning. The Farmer John meat packing plant in Vernon will be closing later this year. No news about what will happen to the iconic plant with its famous murals of farm life. Operations of this big employer that turns out a lot of products is apparently moving to Kansas. Farmer John was a long time sponsor of Dodger baseball games. I wonder if they’ll sponsor the Kansas City Royals.
In the Pacific Coast League, no less. I often wondered how that team got created, and damn! The PCL became regarded as almost a 3rd major league (the majors were only as far west as St. Louis until the Dodgers and Giants moved)… after Vernon relocated.
No it's a Lie Los Angeles is pushing . How is it corrupt when it gives benefits to those who live there. The city is doing what it is suppose to. Far leftist and Los Angeles is trying to seize the Cities tax revenue and try to illegally occupy the city. It doesn't take many to change the elections. This is probably why the police is tough on you. As for why so few live there. The city was founded by a basque man long time ago. California back then was seizing land from Hispanics, and so he incorporated and control who lived there to protect his land. my understanding is his family still control the property and to ensure that it continues, they limit who lives there, so he knows the election favors his family.
Makes you wonder if the rest of these 200 odd population towns have similar things going on or if they are actually just farming communities. As a Texan I naturally suspect all of them outside of california of being fine and all of them in califonia of being not fine.
They guy is a liar. Look at where is Vernon. It is close to downtown Los Angeles. It hasn't been farmland for a century. The land is probably dry . The original owner is Basque, and probably used it for sheep.
Yeah, and it's all sour grapes. He created the city to prevent racist Californians from seizing it a long time ago. The video made it look like that we had farmland right next to downtown los angeles and the city was made recently.
All I knew about Vernon, CA was Farmer John's, which I believe just closed in recent years. Had no clue this was going on, but I see this corruption is happening throughout all of California.
I get that capitalism has brought our species much good and that it is one of the least worst economic systems we have so far tried out, but damn, stuff like this really shouldn't be allowed to happen.
@@Yfr28 What's the corruption? Whose money is being stolen? It's clear the city council is just a company governing body. It's essentially private. And so what does the town council do that's puting others on stake?
@@jokubas3391 Yes, there's absolutely nothing corrupt about setting up your own local government, putting your friends in positions of power, encouraging large companies to set up in your town, controlling who lives there to keep you and your friends from being voted out of office, and then making billions of dollars off of tax. Absolutely no corruption here whatsoever.
It's not as good a promo as the Nebula/CuriosityStream deal for new subscribers that you continually advertised in the past, but thank you for finally offering some kind of deal for returning people to Nebula who tried it ages ago and stopped. I guess I'll take the $30/year before it goes back up to $50.
LA wasn't trying to be altruistic when it was trying to absorb Vernon, though. They just wanted the tax revenue to fund more of THEIR government bureaucrat pensions, not to house anyone.
I wonder how many people who watched this video have ever had Farmer John brand pork. What the hell Farmer John? First you guys lose the Dodger Dog and now you're shutting down operations in the City of Vernon!
I used to work in Vernon. I hate driving there because it’s all industrial and feels like pollution and loneliness. Had no idea about any of this and it makes sense!
it's a lie. It was created long ago. California was trying to seize lands from Hispanic . the owner was basque and was afraid of losing his land, and so he incorporated and control who lived there so he can remain in control of the land and prevent the state from interfering. Look at how he twist things. If the city gives benefits to all that lives there, it's not corruption, it's the city doing what it is suppose to. It's basically communist pissed off that someone outsmarted the government.
Ooooh yeah! Home of the Farmer John slaughterhouse along with the smell when driving by it. Also with the nice pastoral murals of happy piglets outside. L.A. folks! Represent!
"Hey, now! When WE do mass industrialization, collectivization of land, punishing quotas on our citizens, cronyist dictatorship, threats of violence, environmental overtaxing, and blatantly rigged elections, it's GOOD!"
Capitalists are capitalism's worst enemy... If by capitalism you mean a competitive market based economy. I prefer defining capitalism as "whatever is in the interests of the people with lots of wealth"... Seems more accurate
@@travcollier Give you credit for not questioning the questionable use of “communism” I guess. Meanwhile we deal more with “capitalist-ism” present day.
@@PCSPounder I left communism as an exercise for the reader ;) I do tend to find myself explaining the difference between "revolutionary socialism" and "reform socialism" fairly often.
The little hole in the Vernon incorporated area is, if you were wondering, a parking garage for UPS employees.
Does that make it unincorporated LA County?
@@nlpnt either that or federal land
Just replying to see if it's unincorporated LA county or federal land
@@nomad6-1 just checked and it’s officially part of LA (the city)! No idea why though
@@nomad6-1 Even if it were owned by the federal government it would still be unincorporated LA County (although it seems it's LA City, but not the point here); the federal government is a landowner, not a jurisdiction. A better way to think about it, (at least in CA) unincorporated county areas just mean there is no incorporated city, you're either in a city or not (unincorporated county). So it's possible to be in/on federal land that is in a city, say in a federal office building, or federal land that is in unincorporated county, like a national park or large military base. Hope that helps!
The guy literally took the Company Town business model and injected it with steroids
That's not literally dude
Ye
Except he did the thing the company towns didn’t: paid employees really well and used actually money, so kind of the exact opposite in that regard.
Holy Crap. You’re Right O.O Kinda. They do have a Pile of Attorneys todo what they Sorta want :P
@@KyleDB150 It seems that literally has become its opposite meaning. 😄
I knew about Vernon in modern times but I didn't realize it started corrupt right from the very start. True Detective season 2 was based around a fictional version of Vernon.
i dont understand what's corrupt about it? Who is being offended here? Seens to me like no one
@@jokubas3391 I'm not sure what to tell you if you saw this video and didn't understand the corruption and didn't decide to do a basic google search on Vernon to find out more. It was massively corrupt to the point where they only allowed city employees to be residents and basically bribed and forced what voters did exist to vote for them. Then they took huge salaries and all kinds of kickbacks plus used city funds for personal expenses. What else do you need to be convinced the city was corrupt?
@@jokubas3391 The workers and residents of the surrounding cities. The taxes are being funneled to the city government's leadership, instead of services for the people who live in the area.
@@Morbos1000 Well you're making the assumption that the "city" is public, and not private. It's clearly just a company town, and there's nothing wrong with it, because it doesn't offend anyone.
Can you explain how the town "forced" remaining residents to vote? Because if it's just "bribes", then whats the problem? Then those people are lucky and are paid a tax for being original residents of the town.
@@jokubas3391 You probably don't see anything wrong with Putin being President for life.
You need to do a video on Rosemont, IL. It literally surrounds O'Hare airport, and their housing is literally limited to town employees in a single small community that profit off all the taxes and entertainment for being next to one of the US' busiest airports. People say if you drive through their residential area the cops will constantly pull you over and ask what you are doing over and over again.
Never have I been pulled over by the Rosemont police. That being said - we are talking Illinois / Chicago area - we are known for our outstanding corruption.
Interestingly I saw a condo there listed for a rather modest price. They don't seem to have restrictions on housing accessibility.
Donald E. Stephens - the man, convention center, and the longest serving mayor in the US. - at the time of his death. Succeeded by: Bradley Stephens - his son. Gotta love Chicago area politics - here, it's considered a full-contact sport!
I love that tidbit- was working at a convention and found myself wiki-ing the place because I saw it referred to as ‘the Village of Rosemont’ and at the time I was frequently fighting my friends on what’s considered ‘the city’ .
Turns out it has a comparable population to the teeny tiny suburban town on the Wis-Ill border and that really messed me up as even my most conservative definition of Chicago was ‘anything past the airport’ yet here was a “smaller” town than my know-everyone-in-town village.
Definitely sus
rosemont is literally run by the mob lmao
Vernon is the most absurd instance of this but this is how California tax law basically mandates cities be run- maximize the commercial tax base while keeping the housing supply scarce and the population as small as possible.
Can you elaborate on which California laws mandate cities be run this way?
I think he is referring to Proposition 13, the Proposition that limits property taxes.
@@usernamefreaks property taxes in general are very tightly capped by proposition 13, so residential development, which only generates property tax revenue and comes with people who require lots of services, are net negative on city budgets. So they instead have to focus on concentrating as much commercial development as possible to generate sales tax and business tax revenue, ideally sale tax from people who live outside the city and come in to spend money or work
@johner that predates proposition 13 but it is the reason that some of the smaller, more office/commercial/industrial based municipalities are extremely successful and have fantastic city services while the larger and more residential cities tend to be always broke
@@HotDogLaws Got it, that makes a lot of sense now.
Vernon is only 5 miles from downtown LA.
That is bizarre considering LA has over 4 million people.
Cities are crazy like that sometimes. I've lived near LA before, and it's insane the amount of different places an hour drive can take you
Its not really tho, it looks like its an industrial area... people dont usually live there
It's not bizarre at all, if you know how corrupt LA is. It's also not particularly unusual. Consider how Nevada, 32nd in population and 42nd in pop density is next to California, 1st in population and 17th in density.
Try more like 3 miles….
thats 10 million of you acount for LA County
This is basically how every weird little town in California came into existence. They just kept the scheme rolling after the founder died.
now do City of Industry, the second smallest town in California
Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm sure there's an interesting video about City of Industry... well at least half as interesting.
@Oprator *GET OUT*
most cheap drop shipped items i purchase on ebay come from the 'city of industry' it must be warehouses owned by the wealthy offspring of some han chinese factory owners. a way for them to sneak currency out of china
But in the video he revealed Vernon actually is the second smallest town in California now…
@@TimothyStuder Less corruption and more "Keep the tax revenues out of the hands of those undeserving minorities in Compton" kind of redlining. So the story may seen as be worse.
I used to work in Vernon. It is right outside downtown Los Angeles. It is a pit! It is all warehouses, factories, slaughter houses, etc. Parts of the town stank to high heaven.
Ahhh! Is Farmer John still there?
I drove through Vernon several times to avoid the clogged freeways in that area. Not the most enjoyable place & I agree with you that it stinks there.
Yeah that’s the pig slaughterhouse. They hire illegals and pay them bonuses with pig meat. I’ve heard that they like working there cause it pays more than other places
@@samiam619i think they closed down recently, like some time last year
Nationalists who burble about Making America Great Again forget that moving the industry "back home" from China would mean sacrificing swathes of there country to this very Vernonification. Our modern lifestyle depends on nastiness. We have just off-shored much of it.
Sam almost went to Vernon with Brian in Jet Lag Season 4 but instead found a four leaf clover dressed a leprechaun.
Why was the clover dressing a leprechaun?
@@jessehammer123 the four leaf clover was irish. it wanted to pay tribute to its heritage
@The New Kid The Irish shamrock definitely has three leaves. That's the entire point (it's a reference to the trinity).
I love that show
Tapatio hot sauce is produced in Vernon and Amazon has a major hub there for the Socal area. I was wondering why the name sounded so familiar.
A lot of people are suggesting various cities, presumably due to similar types of corruption. But if you're looking for a city that is notable for a _different_ reason, then let me suggest Huron, California. It has two nicknames. One is "The Poorest City in California" due to it having a shit economy-it used to not even have its own high school and (I don't know if this is normal or not) its Chamber of Commerce has _sponsors._ I don't mean unofficial, under-the-table sponsors; I mean sponsors that are proudly advertised on their home webpage. Its other nickname... is "Knife Fight City." I have nothing to add to that one.
Who are the sponsors?
I’ve lived only miles from Vernon my whole life and never knew it had such a small population. I only know it as the town that most of my packages pass through before getting delivered to me.
Bucolic: Of or characteristic of the countryside or its people; rustic. synonym: rural.
For anyone who doesn't wanna look it up
The guy is a liar. This is Los Angeles. The land hasn't been farmland for around a century. It's freaking near DownTown. second, it was owned by a Basque, and it was probably used for sheep back then and it's probably dry. It might be able to be used as Farmland, but knowing the Basque, he left it for grazing.
It’s been a while since there was a HAI plane video. Blink twice if you’re in danger Sam.
City of Industry is very similar to Vernon. Owned by one family and done legally
The only tying I know of that city is it's home to the McDonald's that is never open, because they use it in movies and TV shows if they need a Mickey D's.
then it's no different from Vernon. This video is Los Angeles propaganda to steal Vernons tax revenue. A city is suppose to work for those who live there. So how is it corruption when they give stuff to them. And a city has o obligation to help those who illegally moved there, and worse, try to vote. It's actually the first example of election rigging on wikipedia. Outsiders coming in to distort the vote of those who naturally live there.
I used to work in Vernon. Some big companies produce out of there and they're insane cause basically every factory outsources their work to agencies to pay people half of what they would get had they worked for the company.
Vernon is one of the few places in the Los Angeles area you can park and spend the night in Southern California in a semi truck. If I'm actual LA I'll sleep there, otherwise I'll sleep in Mira Loma. It's like the city of industry it's industrial with a few random residents
I love that you lied when calling it the smallest town in the title and called yourself out for the lie in the exact same video. 👏
His whole story is a group of lies and half truth, probably based on lies the city of Los Angeles is spreading to grab Vernons tax revenue.
How do you call a city corrupt, when it does what a city is suppose to. To bring the well being of those who live there. It isnt corruption when you evict people try to illegally live in the city and vote . Frankly those who illegally moved in is practicing election rigging. It's the first example of election rigging on wikipedia.
Ive grown up in echo park right outside downtown spending tons of time in chinatown which buts up right on Vernon. I've driven through it countless times and never know it was its own city. The video somewhat makes out Vernon to be some sort of real "city" but it is nothing more than 5 square miles of creepy vibes and huge ass industrial buildings, junk yards empty sidewalks and a yoshinoia with a spiked fence around the outdoor seating area that all just buts up against downtown LA. They do have some pretty crazy raves down there though.
I was intrigued so I went to research a bit more about it. Amazing how such a place can be called a town. nevermind a city.
haha the raves down there sound lit
@@soundscape26 Yes, it is not a real "city". I do business in Vernon and it is basically a town designated to industrial transport. It is adjacent to the DTLA industrial district, adjacent to the I-5 & 1-10 crossing and huge rail junction. Tracks literally separate buildings in certain parts.
The guy is lying about Vernon. It was made to protect the landowner from corrupt and racist Californians from grabbing land from Hispanics. THe original owner was Basque and he incorporated and restricted who lived there so he can retain control of his own land.
@@halfamic Thanks for the additional info, appreciated. 👍
Watching this from Vernon... I've always wondered how this place is possible if no one lives here. Thanks.
this video is filled with lies and half truths. Vernon was created by a Basque man because he saw California stealing land from Hispanics, and wanted to protect it from being seized. He incorporated it and control who lived there, so he can retain control of his own land. Last I heard, his family still controls it and only allow people friendly to his family to live so the election always favor them retaining control.
4:01: Sam: "Come on, this isn't-"
David: "-the _Cheesecake Factory."_
"How to Make BANK in Passive Income: Become a Governing Official in a City You Don't Even Live In!" - Vernon officials if they were influencers
Local Governments Hate This One Weird Trick!
I lived and went to school in Vernon city when I was young. I lived on Pacific and 54th Street. It's was the best school ever. Better than LA county thanks to all the money donated by businesses for tax breaks. At least their donations went somewhere good. The best gift from one of big businesses was free Disneyland trip for entire school in the late 90s. Was best because most of students didn't come from money. We also got trips to museums. LA city school district got jealous and legit told the school we couldn't be going on to many field trips even though they were paid for by companies. They would donate stuff for Christmas some years. Like shoes one time and every year a free polyester backpack wasn't best but it was free and some free school supplies to each student.
Even Laura bush went to visit the school on my last year there. It was thanks to the special Ed aide who wrote in some contest of some sort.
What donations from rich can do for small community makes a difference for children.
Idk if it's like that still, but it was like that in the late 90s.
Where did you move to. Sounds like you left the city completely.
This is why you can't buy a house in City of Commerce. Because of all the business there, they get a lot of money, and the money goes to the residence. You pay for it, because it's an industrial area, and have to live with less than ideal air quality. But I like to state, no one there is complaining, because the benefits out way the faults.
I used on the town right over, Maywood, which the industry in Vernon uses for its cheap immigrant labor. Never knew it had such history, adding onto its already it’s complicated situation with stuff like environmental pollution.
The history you heard is full of half truths and lies. It is built by a Basque man who was afraid of California seizing his land because they were doing it to Hispanics. He incorporated to prevent losing the land, because he control who lives there and therefor who controls the city.
this is kind of like Lentokenttä, a district of Vantaa, Finland. 8 people actually live there, but employs over 11,000 people. of course, if you’re Finnish, the district name already tipped you off: it’s where the Helsinki-Vantaa airport is.
I used to work for a co. in Vernon. There was one vicious dog that used to roam Pacific Blvd and nestled on the doorstep of the co. beside ours. They called in the city animal control and they just lazily placed a big cage, with food in it, 2 feet from the dog instead of actually catching the mutt. This is the city "service" you expect from this corrupt city.
City of Vernon does not have an actual Animal Control department.
apart from tax laws and mobsters businesses, this has a lot to do with how administrative divisions work in the usa. i don't think there are many countries where a handful of "residents" can take an area that correspond to a few city blocks and turn it into a city
You see, it was the other way around
A handful of "residents" took an area that was nothing and had no value (remember "bucolic" from the video?) and turned farmland into high value city blocks filled with business and industry.
That these "residents" also knew that allowing residents to move in would dilute their power, and thus restricted housing to suit themselves... is their choice
Regards
@@ricardokowalski1579 Yeah democracy is stupid
@@scottabc72 voting is stupid
Whean you vote, you get "American Idol"
Voting and elections do not make a democracy.
It this still allowed to happen? Many places require a minimum population to create a city
@@scottabc72aint democracy, its communism
shout out to the guy in the stock video at 3:04 who shows up just to illustrate what "The Worst" might look like
Another local here (Hollywood). On a hot day, you could smell Vernon from the one ten. Another weird city is not too far from Vernon: The City of Industry. It has about 250 inhabitants, a very small number given its proximity to downtown Los Angeles.
A nearby city has a corrupt city council also. Must be contagious.
They just shut down Farmer John’s, a Smithfield pork processing plant.
My grandpa was a welder at farmer johns back in the day. He said it smelled disgusting and that the only parts of the pig that they didn’t use were the teeth and hair. Ewwwww. 🤢
I live right next to Vernon and all my UPS packages go through there so it’s anything but a small town in my eyes lol
Interesting... I came across this video while doing some digging about some of the companies that are located there. A major brand I purchase from often has their headquarters located in Vernon, CA. Vernon, although small geographically and population wise, is incorporated, which explains it's autonomy in terms of government and authority.
I would say this on Nebula, but It would be easier to watch on there if I could make a playlist. Or at least autoplay another related video. I love the content, but the platform has room for improvement.
love the USMNT joke. well done, sir.
Interesting. I worked at the LA food bank there and it was always so depressing, a lot of homeless and abandoned animals there, the slaughter house was two streets over, trash everywhere, there is one strip of houses outside the food bank where a lot of Hispanics lived
I worked for Maulburg family. The family that founded this city.
The original person isn't named Maulburg. They might of married into the family that founded the city. As I recall, it was a Basque family that owned the land.
@@slewone4905 yes… the maulberg family is in basque too. Linda Fletcher. Liones’s adopted daughter had gone there many times.
I'm still waiting on a video for the logistics of cereal.
Better yet, how the cereal industry was propped up by the federal government and promoted as healthy which created an epidemic of obesity and type two diabetes
That was the best Nebula ad I've seen
True Detective, Season 2 is all about Vernon.
Corruption? In America? Impossible.
Best pitch for nebula yet, you finally got me! (After years of watching your channel). Thanks for all the content
The authenticity from 4:50 on down is hilarious!!
You can't actually do that in the Philippines. There's a population requirement to be called a town or cities. For cities it should have a population of 100k and also meets area requirement. No other authority can make or create local subdivisions except the National Congress. So when a population become too low, cities run the risk of being incorporated in a larger politicial subdivisionm
to add to that, there's also an income requirement for a town to become a city, I believe it's ₱100 million
The administrative divisions in the United States are quite complex. Here in Brazil there is no unincorporated area, every territory will be within a municipality.
In the American Northeast (New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania), the states are divided into townships. Which are considered "municipalities" of a lower level but still incorporated. The counties in those states are somewhat unimportant. In California, however, Counties are still important. Even in Los Angeles County, there are communities that are not formally incorporated but are legally administered by the County government. Counties typically oversee social services, lower level courts, jails, etc.
We had 1 of those a short distance a short distance away from where I am. Fraser Mills was established to give a lumber mill it's own town to reduce it's tax bill because almost nobody lived there. It was merged with Coquitlam, BC in the 70s.
Intersting! As a local, I did not know this. Now I can use that as my random trivia factoid.
The only reason I knew about this was because I was doing research on what would be the optimal strategy in Jet Lag
With only a few hundred people, such a settlement in Western Canada would have been dissolved into a surrounding regional district or county well into the 70's or 80's. I think small and corrupt corporate towns are specifically one reason why we developed the Regional District system, which replaces them with large and corrupt unwieldly bureaucracies where nothing can get done unless it is to refuse services or development.
Today's fact: Strawberries can also be white or yellow, and some can even taste like pineapples.
I just finished eating some pineapple-flavored strawberries myself, actually!
they can also taste absolutely disgusting if you let them sit on the shelf for a couple days too long. Most things can actually. *Amazing* isn't it?
I guess that's why its scientific name is Fragaria x ananassa
I'm guessing City of Industry, about 20 miles up the 60 Freeway from Vernon, is equally corrupt. I started thinking about this when the street City Hall is on was renamed Mayor Dave Way.
SNPJ (iniitials standing for Slovene National Benefit Society) was the smallest town in Pennsylvania until the residents of Centralia moved out and there are only 5 left. There are only 15 people in SNPJ. The only reason it exists is because the township it was in didn't allow beer sales on Sundays. By creating a new municipality, they could change that rule.
Pennsylvania liquor laws are stuck in the 1930s because the state runs the liquor stores and it's unionized, it's the Mafia in cahoots with the government to control power and kickback to democrat politicians so it never changes
Similar machinations are found in City of Industry, CA, which is also in the LA metro area--take a look at how the borders are drown so as to minimize residential areas.
Vernon existed for some time, before Los Angeles is that big. For the city to be a bucolic farm land so close to downtown los Angeles, it would be around a century atleast. The city was built to protect the landowner from racist state government seizing lands formerly owned by Hispanics. Technically the owner was Basque. City of industry took land that was further away and added business, and when its filled they added more land latter. THats why the city is so long. They just bought out all the unincorporated land in the area.
Maybe this town is like in Halloween 3, where the town is corporated controlled like a dystopia, and a mask maker is the leader of the town bent on witchcraft and is a Pagan Witch who is making a ritual involving dead children, Festival of Samhain
Sam, I love the deadpan humor and sarcasm, it makes the videos so much more entertaining.
I live by Vernon and there’s only a couple of houses 🏡 I always wondered why. Thanks for the insight
the guy isn't telling the full truth. It was built by a basque man. he saw the state seizing land from Hispanics, and incorporated and controlled who lived there to prevent his home from being stolen. Him or latter family members figured out how to be rich , using the land. This video is probably based on corrupt Los Angeles politicians trying to steal Vernons tax revenue.
@@slewone4905 you maybe right.. but for most of my life I lived in the low bottoms which is right next to Vernon.. and it still amazes me how that city has more history than what the naked eye could see… imo sir or ma’am.
There are a few other smallish industrial towns in SoCal that are like Vernon. But not as corrupt or controlling.
This guy looked at Fordlandia and said “but what if I replaced all the people with corporations?”
The tide is turning. The Farmer John meat packing plant in Vernon will be closing later this year. No news about what will happen to the iconic plant with its famous murals of farm life. Operations of this big employer that turns out a lot of products is apparently moving to Kansas. Farmer John was a long time sponsor of Dodger baseball games. I wonder if they’ll sponsor the Kansas City Royals.
There used to be a professional baseball team located in Vernon, called the Vernon Tigers
In the Pacific Coast League, no less. I often wondered how that team got created, and damn!
The PCL became regarded as almost a 3rd major league (the majors were only as far west as St. Louis until the Dodgers and Giants moved)… after Vernon relocated.
You just described the district of Columbia as well
I worked in Vernon for 10 years, I never knew that city was so corrupt. The Vernon police would sweat you at night if you worked graveyard.
No it's a Lie Los Angeles is pushing . How is it corrupt when it gives benefits to those who live there. The city is doing what it is suppose to. Far leftist and Los Angeles is trying to seize the Cities tax revenue and try to illegally occupy the city. It doesn't take many to change the elections. This is probably why the police is tough on you. As for why so few live there. The city was founded by a basque man long time ago. California back then was seizing land from Hispanics, and so he incorporated and control who lived there to protect his land. my understanding is his family still control the property and to ensure that it continues, they limit who lives there, so he knows the election favors his family.
Is this the place Vinci was based on in True Detective season 2?
Vernon just sounds like a tamer version of Rosemont, IL
Makes you wonder if the rest of these 200 odd population towns have similar things going on or if they are actually just farming communities. As a Texan I naturally suspect all of them outside of california of being fine and all of them in califonia of being not fine.
Visit the Lord Spoda channel.Plenty of small towns in Texas are NOT doing fine. And not, he is not biased, he is a Texan. A rational one, for once.
They guy is a liar. Look at where is Vernon. It is close to downtown Los Angeles. It hasn't been farmland for a century. The land is probably dry . The original owner is Basque, and probably used it for sheep.
The guy that created the town is a fucking genius
Yeah, and it's all sour grapes. He created the city to prevent racist Californians from seizing it a long time ago. The video made it look like that we had farmland right next to downtown los angeles and the city was made recently.
Bucolic: Adjective: "relating to the pleasant aspects of the countryside and country life."
It funny you mention Amador City, I grew up there!!
All I knew about Vernon, CA was Farmer John's, which I believe just closed in recent years. Had no clue this was going on, but I see this corruption is happening throughout all of California.
Nebula should be the new RUclips
Real question, does anyone know if HAI’s nebula channel edits in the same format? Or is it more documentary?
I get that capitalism has brought our species much good and that it is one of the least worst economic systems we have so far tried out, but damn, stuff like this really shouldn't be allowed to happen.
why? whats wrong with an industrial area owned by a company?
a lot of people would say otherwise about the things at the beginning of your comment, but i digress.
@@jokubas3391 the massive amount of corruption?
@@Yfr28 What's the corruption? Whose money is being stolen? It's clear the city council is just a company governing body. It's essentially private. And so what does the town council do that's puting others on stake?
@@jokubas3391 Yes, there's absolutely nothing corrupt about setting up your own local government, putting your friends in positions of power, encouraging large companies to set up in your town, controlling who lives there to keep you and your friends from being voted out of office, and then making billions of dollars off of tax. Absolutely no corruption here whatsoever.
Was the “bucolic” joke a reference to John Green’s use of it in a recent Short he made about football in Wales?? If so that’s hilarious 😂😂
Look at Teterboro NJ it’s the same thing there’s less than 150 residents 15 minutes to Manhattan
Oh boy do I love random conspiracy videos at 12:45am when I’m supposed to be waking up at 5:45am! :’)
It's not as good a promo as the Nebula/CuriosityStream deal for new subscribers that you continually advertised in the past, but thank you for finally offering some kind of deal for returning people to Nebula who tried it ages ago and stopped.
I guess I'll take the $30/year before it goes back up to $50.
LA wasn't trying to be altruistic when it was trying to absorb Vernon, though. They just wanted the tax revenue to fund more of THEIR government bureaucrat pensions, not to house anyone.
Watching this at work in Vernon
man... I wish nebula was better, The only reason I go there is for early access content when I know its coming.
Am not sure i understand the concept of why those businesses still stay there.. Do they get lower tax or some other type of benefits?
Probably the property tax breaks that they'd likely not receive if LA's scheme to take over Vernon had gone through...
So it was founded by the Pringle's can?
I wonder how many people who watched this video have ever had Farmer John brand pork.
What the hell Farmer John? First you guys lose the Dodger Dog and now you're shutting down operations in the City of Vernon!
Harmony on California's central coast has a population of 18
Nebula doesn't have playlists and doesn't automatically play the next vid. It's really a crappy experience.
Background audio is running about 20% hot
I used to work in Vernon. I hate driving there because it’s all industrial and feels like pollution and loneliness. Had no idea about any of this and it makes sense!
it's a lie. It was created long ago. California was trying to seize lands from Hispanic . the owner was basque and was afraid of losing his land, and so he incorporated and control who lived there so he can remain in control of the land and prevent the state from interfering. Look at how he twist things. If the city gives benefits to all that lives there, it's not corruption, it's the city doing what it is suppose to. It's basically communist pissed off that someone outsmarted the government.
Horrifying, but in their defense I would do a lot of illegal things to not live in LA too.
While on this subject, also look into city of industry.
My wife is from Amador county, and yes Amador city is tiny and still tiny
3:09 I swear I thought those guys were standing at urinals🫢
01:23 I couldn't help it, I had to try to work out which preserved UK railway station that was with my google-fu. I succeeded. Wansford, Peterborough.
Nene Valley, of course. Thought I recognised it.
is nebula the new vernon?
Ooooh yeah! Home of the Farmer John slaughterhouse along with the smell when driving by it. Also with the nice pastoral murals of happy piglets outside. L.A. folks! Represent!
At least there are no neighbors living nearby to complain about the smell!
Just wait till you hear about Amboy California. It's the real life version of Nuketown
Give these people a medal for finding the most communist way to be capitalist.
"Hey, now! When WE do mass industrialization, collectivization of land, punishing quotas on our citizens, cronyist dictatorship, threats of violence, environmental overtaxing, and blatantly rigged elections, it's GOOD!"
Ah yes, cartels are communist now
Capitalists are capitalism's worst enemy... If by capitalism you mean a competitive market based economy. I prefer defining capitalism as "whatever is in the interests of the people with lots of wealth"... Seems more accurate
@@travcollier Give you credit for not questioning the questionable use of “communism” I guess. Meanwhile we deal more with “capitalist-ism” present day.
@@PCSPounder I left communism as an exercise for the reader ;)
I do tend to find myself explaining the difference between "revolutionary socialism" and "reform socialism" fairly often.
This has gotta be in the inspiration for that town from the second season of True Detective, Vinci or whatever it was called.
3:52 what's a Lur?
2:09
Is it Owens-Williams or Owens-Illinois? The subtitles are different from what you said?
It’s Owen-Illinois
So when will we get a video about Amador City
I always wondered why there is so much factories where I live and I don't even work here