What If Vegeta Attained Immortality In Dragon Ball Z?
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2021
- What if Vegeta attained immortality in Dragon Ball Z? Could Immortal Vegeta defeat Frieza? How would this change Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT? Mike from Laughingstock Media discusses that in this Dragon Ball Theory video featuring the Anime and Manga!
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Seems like Vegeta would eventually get bored and wish for his immortality to be removed or he would become Beerus' immortal successor.
Wouldn’t he just be board in hell frieza’s hell was a cacoon with nice things around him id imagine vegetas would be a void with nothing
I mean, if you think about it the immortality would only be as powerful as the dragon itself.
@daddy, no • 69 years ago Yes but that was a movie, the movies are confirmed to be alternative timelines and we didn't know about stronger dragons than Shenron.
@daddy, no • 69 years ago I'm just pointing out the facts not being salty if anything you're getting salty and over protective of a RUclipsr's theory.
@@Jp41999 tbf Dende's healing is absurdly powerful though, so wishing for a healing factor would presumably be at least Cell-tier OP if not Buu-tier
---- after being left floating in space after Frieza destroyed Planet Namek, Vegeta stopped thinking ----
And though he wished for death, he was unable to die. So eventually vegeta stopped thinking.
Hello Jotaro Kujo how's Koichi
@@King.Tyran9k Koichi is fine, I asked him to spy on Jolyne and Annasui because I don't want Annasui to do anything with Jolyne. That kid is bad news but Koichi is incredibly reliable so I trusted him with the task of spying on them.
Bingo
I believe that he would get Zenkais. In practice being near death means to be heavily damaged. And being immortal doesnt mean that you cant get damaged.
Yeah, we see that Cell is able to get Zenkais despite the fact he can regenerate from atoms and believed himself to be indestructible. The way I understood how Zenkais work is that the body simply needs to take damage and then recover, which immortal regeneration would do (I assume this is how Vegeta originally planned to use his immortality to kill Frieza considering he must have known Frieza was more powerful than him at the time he was planning his wishes). So it would definitely make sense especially since we see in Zamasu in Super that he can still be hurt, but recovers. Combining that with a Saiyan Zenkai is pretty unfair to most of the villains in Z (It's not till Buu or Beerus might come into play that anyone can do ANYTHING to really stop Vegeta unless they have the Mafuba or something).
Being Immortal is just cant die from age
@Cameron Webster oh yeah your right I forgot about Zamasu
@@markmagician2471 and if anything you can still train and become stronger regardless 9f zenkias.
@@Hei_Darkfire Cell didn't regenerated from atoms though, but from the core of his head.
The only one showing potential molecular renegeration is Buu.
Freeza blows up Namek and leaves Vegeta in space. Eventually, Vegeta stopped thinking.
JOJO REFERENCE!
Frieza: There are things worse than death, Vegeta.
There is nothing an immortal Vegeta could have done to prevent Frieza from subduing him and then dumping him in a cryogenic chamber. It would be the ultimate insult for a proud Saiyan Prince: forever held as a trophy in the deepest recesses of Frieza's quarters.
I was just thinking that 🤣
Damn dats dark 😈
But, if Freeza never attains the same, he'll get out eventually.
Put the Vegetable in the Freezer
@daddy, no • 69 years ago Didn't LSM decide to ommit them because it's arguable whether an immortal Saiyan could have one?
I think vegeta would get stronger since saiyans get stronger as they fight, eventually catching up and killing Frieza
That would take alot of catching up, you don't go from 18,000 to 120,000,000 by fighting weaklings since he wouldn't be able to be at the bring of death since he is immortal. So no massive zenkai boosts like when kurririn blasted him
@@RXDSARI he was atleast 2 million since he was above third form frieza... how would vegeta from his fight with Goku get immortality after the ginyu force??...Saiyans get stronger AS they fight which was always an idea but really got shown in super, if zamasu is ssj2 level and as an immortal could go toe to toe with blue I think an ever growing immortal vegeta could kill frieza
@daddy, no • 69 years ago he would have to injure him about 60 times. TO THE BRINK OF D E A T H
Hell
true. it would take some time though. he probably wouldn't be able to become super saiyan because he wouldn't feel the need to get stronger in that way.
I believe that if Vegeta was inmortal he would fly through space easily, not just float
I don't think so for two reasons
1. Being immortal doesn't mean having no needs for your bodily functions, for example air. I rather guess Vegeta would suffocate constantly but without dying as he can't die. Every few seconds his heart would stop beating but it would start beating every single time as it's not possible for his heart to actually stop.
2. You can't actively fly through space as it is a vacuum. (Well, maybe you can in DB, but it wouldn't make any sense.)
Mathematically speaking he will float to some planet/star eventually (hope for him it's a planet), at least by gravitational force, but that would take him thousands of years. He might be able to push himself to another planet by using energy blasts aiming at the opposite direction as he can't actively fly through space. Considering how vast the universe is even this should take decades, and he doesn't even know if that's a planet with air to breathe - let alone that he doesn't know which planet is the closest as he's only able to see tiny stars like we do on Earth, so he is literally pushing himself to a random flickering point in the sky without even knowing if that star is close or if it has a planet.
Long story short, if real physics apply to the DB universe as well, Frieza's best way to manage an immortal Vegeta is to simply blow off Planet Namek...
(And even if Vegeta COULD fly through space, he would need years to reach his destination as he can't teleport and has no spaceship-and probably doesn't even know where his destination actually is, let's imagine he wants to fly to Earth flying off from Namek but he wouldn't know in which direction actually to go.)
@@doppelplusungutmensch1141 1 he will get over it
2 real world physics dont apply to dragon ball
3 he doesnt need to straight shot to earth,he just needs to find somewhere baseline habital.
@@majincookies
1. "He will get over it" it not an argument.
2. Well, in Dragon Ball you need air to breathe, you stand on a planet due to gravity, and rain falls down instead of up. So real world physics pretty much applies in the Dragon Ball universe.
3. Which will eventually happen, yes, but it would take many many years to do so.
@@doppelplusungutmensch1141 1 yeah it is
2 vegeta in this senario is a magical immortal planet destroyer that can fly with magic, none of which real world physics account for
3 it would take like 2 weeks at top for him to find somewhere habitable
@MajinCookies Two weeks to find a planet away from Namek? Where's that in the manga? Vegeta has never been shown having that much speed/strength, even in current DBS. So to say Namek saga Vegeta is that fast is crazy. He wouldn't be touched by freeza in the first place.
Goku got lucky with Yardrat since the ginyu ship had the coordinates already set in to go there and being a day faster than Brief's ship and 20 times faster than Bulma's.
So far the only character we've seen in canon flying at absurd levels of speed through space is Gas whereas Kid Buu just instant transmit from planet to planet.
I think vegeta would only keep gohan around to be his slave minion. If gohan or anyone got anywhere near as powerful as him he would kill them. basically, vegeta would just be the new frieza.
They should’ve wished me immortality!
I agree👍🏻
Genuinely
Hello Bardock
@@King.Tyran9k hi
Yeah Vegeta being killed was, ironically the best thing too happen too him. While he was, obviously, never humbled by it I believe it gave him clarity something he desperately needed but could never obtain due too his single mindedness with power
Every time I rewatch THE Namek saga I always wished this would happen 😂
Idk why but alot of what if vegeta was immortal when the planet gets blown up they say vegeta will just float there for eternity but ppl forget vegeta can fly it's not like he's stuck there
That's because as the Universal Anthem says "space is vast." Vegeta can fly as fast as he wants, but it would still take him many years to reach a civilized world even at MFTL speeds. And unless he knows exactly where he's going, he'll be flying around a lot longer than that just trying to find a world with life on it. And unless that world has space travel on par with what he's used to, he's not getting back anywhere relevant for a very long time to come.
@@LSMMIKE and even if he knows exactly where a planet is that he knows at that point in time has an advanced space faring civilization there is no telling if they would still be around by the time he got there.
I'd actually be more surprised that Vegeta doesn't just freeze solid and be unable to do anything. He won't die, but the coldness of space probably would incapacitate him. Even if it doesn't, him not being able to breathe would hinder his judgement pretty heavily since he would be in a constant state of asphyxiation.
In the words of Dark Raiden, there are fates worse than death.
@@LSMMIKE well he already started learning ki sensing ,leave that man in space or a year focusing on nothing but that he would be able to sense yamcha from 400 AU's away
@@Hei_Darkfire Truly a fate worse than Death...Ironic
I have questions about this “training session” with chi chi. If goku is dead, could he still conceive?
He shouldn't be able to, since it would be dead sperm trying to fertilize a living egg.
Sperm doesn't care if you're alive or dead. If the sperm cells are moving around they can pass on dna.
the physical body is kept so ig so
You see Freiza you're not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore. .
Freiza: Oh my %$:×&ing god !!!
I think Vegeta would wish for Bulma to be immortal at some point.
Porunga: *"State your wish."*
Vegeta: "Make me immortal!"
Porunga: *"Granted. You are now a meme."*
Vegeta: _"Noooooooooooooooover 9000!!!"_
A post-Bra's death Vegeta is probably more likely to accept Whis's offer to become a GoD than the main story one.
Zenkais don't only apply to near-death. It's any damage that occurs and is recovered from, as well as the force that they train under. Near-death just expedites the process. Though there is still the question of whether or not the magically-induced regeneration will affect it, since it may be removing the saiyan's body's need to adapt, because it's not healing on its own.
9:02. The TRUE menace. If FReeZa gets TiReD of pounding on an immortal Vegeta he'll just go nuts and destroy the planet. I was waiting on this particular moment in the discussion.
Why’d you capitalize random letters in that sentence?
This is probably the best and most thought-out what-if I have ever seen. Really enjoyed it.
I always love your videos, Mike, but this one is just absolutely phenomenal!!! Awesome stuff! :D
One of the greatest dragon ball videos you have ever done mike. Thahk u
Great content 🔥💪🏻
nice 41 mins love that
Smart answer would be for them to wish Piccolo back to life, followed by wishing Goku or Piccolo were immortal.
Immortal Piccolo means they have infinite wishes. Immortal Goku would be able to keep Vegeta in check.
Gohan just keeps getting new dads 😂 (I know this joke is tiresome).
Great video, loved it
I love Vegeta in his old Saiyan armor, the Saiyan armor he wore on earth with Nappa to fight against Goku and the Saiyan armor he wore during his early time on Namek.
Vegeta looked so badass and was the most dominant then!
The Saiyan armor he wore to fight against Freeza and the Saiyan armor he wore he wore in the Cell Saga didn’t look nearly as good!!
The shoulder guards make the Saiyan armor just look a lot better.
Love everything you crammed into this one. Was a really interesting listen. Though one thing I do wonder is how quickly Frieza would get to "screw this, die planet" on Namek when he realized Vegeta was unkillable.
You do a better job than most but one of my biggest gripes with people's "what if" scenarios is how they will sometimes go out of the way to try to stick to the original series of events.
"Vegeta gets wished to the earth during the Freeza fight" and "everyone dies except Gohan and Vegeta because he's immortal against the androids" are two examples of this. You'll at least toy with alternatives but it reeks of timidness to change things too much.
Vegeta floating in space while thinking of disturbs 'sound of silence'. That's dark man
I think if Zeno were to erase the universe it would also kill vegeta. Zeno seems to be able to completely defy the magic of even the super dragonballs
If frieza destroyed the planet, vegeta will forever suffocate in space incapable to die
Indeed, dark but more likely since we know how Frieza throws ' tantrums '
I mean he could eventually get to other planets. After all he's not just floating, he can fly pretty fast. Though it would be absolute hell until he stumbles onto Yardrat. After all it was close enough for Goku to get there being all injured and shit.
@@CZPC Yeah, and we know his energy sensing was s#it back during the Namek saga. So that's gotta be a fun near eternity, maybe he'd meet goku Jr in GT eventually 😂
Freiza would keep this mans head in a box and only bring it out as a warning to anyone else who thought of betraying him
Lol itnwould be like hidan and Kakuzu
37:12 i think he would gather the dragonballs to wish 17 and 18 back like you said, but i also believe he would be much more powerful. Without his original encounter with Piccolo the Z-fighters would never learn of the drones collect dna and data. If that was the case then they could possibly have gathered cells from Babidi's minions, golden frieza, the immoral vegeta himself, and even possibly beerus, whis, and moro if he came to the planet. So i think this version cell would not only be more powerful than his canon counterpart, but he would have access to god ki and maybe even Vegeta's immortality, either partially or as a whole. He could in fact become the most powerful being in all the universes if that was the case. Food for thought lol
great video
Cool video.
Vegeta becoming immortal would give him great power. He would defeat Frieza after many zenkais, and then, to test him, he would pursue cold, he would kill him after many zenkais. After that he would have the throne of cold and Frieza. He would divide his soldiers by classes like the sayans, and rule over the universe.
I love how laughing stock uses wrestle talk and references
''Maybe getting in a quick training session with chi chi along the way'' LMAO laughed so hard
Well thought out.
i am unsure if the Zenkai Boost would work for simple executions like blasts to the chest and such but near complete vaporisation could possibly give him one as its litterly nearly completely destroying his physical body. Also dont forget what happend to Cell when he blew himself up and just regenerated.
Though Cell regenerated by his own natural means rather than magic.
Freeza thinks he's clever by throwing Vegeta into space, but unlike Kars Vegeta could actually "fly" back to Namek because he uses ki and not wings/air to "fly".
This is hilarious in a way everytime you speak of him gettin vaporized or crushed is a hilarious thought 😭🤣👌🏾
Nice😀.
The real question is, how does immortality work in DragonBall… in other Fictive animes, Movies etc. you can’t die of old age if you are immortal, in others if you get disinterested you regenerate from the most tiny particles. It would depend on how it works here.
I presume, this plays in the main Timeline. If that is so, then Vegeta should be immortal in all Timelines since it’s the common era
I'm always confused about everyone saying "zenkai boost" while it's never called like that. Zenkai literally means "full power released" and was used when the character went full power, and not only saiyans.
Zenkai a Technique Only for the Saiyans A Zenkai In DBZ means if a Saiyan Recovers from near death scenario this is what Goku Black in DBS was all about. It basically gives you a incredible Amount of Strength if it is Activated, this Technique is SO op that It can awaken Transformations as well like Super Saiyan, and its even more op because only with 5 more Zenkais you can practically unlock Super Saiyan 3.
@@rakhimitra2193 no zenkai isn't only for saiyan, every character can ago "zenkai": which mean releasing their full power (like what Freeza did when he went 100% on namek). The saiyan's ability to get stronger after near death is called "saiyan power", not zenkai.
@@thunderjellyfish3680 No that's completely a zenkai is what I just told you THE Zenkai MEANS What you just said in Japan but in DB it is known as surviving near death situations means Zenkei and Yes and No about everyone can get Zenkai NO Body can Get Zenkeis Unless they either are Saiyans or Tgey Have Saiyan Cells like Cell or someone is in a body of a Saiyan it is Confirmed by Akira Toriyama Himself in one of the interviews BTW
Edit the Full Power Frieza thing is not a Zenkai if someone goes 100% That means they are in full power
@@rakhimitra2193 Zenkai means to go full power, it doesn't mean to get stronger after a near death. Your definition is wrong. Why do you say wrong japanese words without knowing their meaning?
The saiyan's power-up after near death sic called saiyan power.
@@thunderjellyfish3680 Akira Toriyama the Creater of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super CONFIRMED Zenkai means the power up Saiyan Get due to Saiyan Cells when they Survive a Near Death Experience Idiot. You should research what I am Saying before you should answer
Edit : Now Write In Google what Zenkais mean in Dragon Ball. And tell me I'm wrong
I've been starting to wonder if it's even possible for Shenron or Porunga to grant such wish.
Just think about their limitations. Neither of them can bring back someone who died naturally. Wishing for immortality pretty much contradicts that.
Besides, the only villain who could obtain immortality canonically was Zamasu and it was while using the strongest possible Dragon Balls.
Vegeta is smart. He would let gohan and krillin take the first 2 wishes so they could not wish away his immortality. After using the third wish for immortality they would not be able to stop him or have enough time to find the dragons balls again. Vegeta would conquer frieza and command his army starting a new legion and spreading the Saiyan genes and reviving his race to and above their former glory. But Goku would find a plot device and win anyway cause Goku has plot armor and death dont matter in DBZ.
Also if Vegeta was immortal he could kill himself and recover for an instant Zenkai boost, making his power infinite over time or atleast the power cap of zenkai which does not seem to have limits.
have you considered the implications? -gohan
"The prince of all Manlets".
Pretty good name for him, I won,t lie.
Why wouldn't an IMMORTAL Future Vegeta,
just stall the Future Androids, for the others to escape ? 🤔
Amazing.
I think Videl getting pregnant with Pan or Bulma with Bra would be more likely and help with the ritual for SSG.
26:33 - The immortal Prince Vegeta getting [finger-flicked] by Beerus over and over and over again.
Active threat zenkai boost lmao basically plot boost
That's a great question about the power boost. If he can't almost die he won't get a boost. If I were him I would escape and train. Being immortal you could train forever getting more and more powerful.
What would happen if frieza tried to drown him?
Here’s a point you didn’t touch on, wouldn’t Vegeta be able to abuse ASSJ or even USSJ since he wouldn’t lose stamina. So he would be able to be a tank without the efficiency problem?
Something to consider for that first scenario; there is another reason it wouldn't work out. It would have been physically impossible for Vegeta to get his wish on earth. The Earth's dragonballs had only just been used to bring Goku back to life, so Vegeta would have needed to wait basically a year for them to even be available. The only reason Earth's dragonballs were available during the Namek arc a month or so later is because Kami's revival lead to the dragon balls on earth either being recreated or reset to an active state. If Piccolo never died, the dragon balls would have remained inert.
3 years later and here I am. I think Freeza would of used him as a pet or toy before leaving him alone on the planet for all of eternity as Vegeta was no where near Freeza's full power when the dragon balls were available to be used. Unless immortality lets him retain full stamina then Vegeta would come back time and time again more tired than the last time.
Nice
Immortality and invincibility are 2 totally different things, just cuz you cant die doesnt mean you cant get knocked the fuck out and torn to shreds, you just wouldnt die.
I love your sarcastic snipes at RUclips. Fuck 'em. They deserve every ounce of criticism they get.
I think if Vegeta wished for immortality, he would've continued down his path of darkness. He would've never pleaded with Goku to defeat Frieza, which was a major turning point for his character. I also don't think he would care about defeating Goku since he would definitely be capable at that point with immortality.
Eventually, he stopped thinking...
All Frieza has to do vs immortal Vegeta in that situation is blow up the planet.
Like, cool You can't die in space anymore, but that doesn't mean you can do anything while floating out there while your body constantly regenerates from the damage of a vacuum
I think that the main crutch to this is would he get Zeniki boosts from every fatal injury? Or would he not have Zeniki boost? IF not that means he would have train still rather than throw himself against an opponent. IF he does get Zeniki boosts then he just has to throw himself at the opponent till he was strong enough to beat them. At least till he fought something like Majin buu whom could absorb him.
Drifting aimlessly through space, eventually Vegeta stopped thinking.
What was with that stutter when you said "Where I talk about how the saiyans scale-" (etc etc). More specifically the "where" part.
Interesting theory but I think we should identify what type of immortality does vegeta get first. If you rip his head off will he survive as a head? Or will he take the manga Zamasu route and regenerate a head for his body and a body for his head? I think its the latter but I don't think Toriyama will be giving Vegeta that type of immortality so it will probably be the Garlic Jr route where Vegeta just doesn't take damage. There is something you missed though. Before zenkais were even a thing Vegeta said that he got stronger because he was fighting as he repeatedly tells cui and dodoria. Saiyans get stronger when they fight and that's how he would have defeated Freeza. Krillin even suggested to make Gohan immortal in place of Vegeta when the Ginyu Force were approaching Namek.
basically the scene where Frieza is torturing Vegeta.. only Vegeta's laughing the entire time like he's being tickled
Great story
Carthu's Dojo did a video of this topic. It's more realistically short & dark.
Eventually he would become the strongest since he's constantly training. Maybe he wouldn't train as hard as he did since he knew he wouldn't "lose" a fight but eventually he would get tired of getting his ass kicked and train.
Cool
He would destroy stuff. Then have too much pride and unwish his original wish and bring back the people he sent to the next dimension; just to fight. And lose
With training comes improvement. Even if a Saiyan's immortality were to hinder the Zenkai boost(s), the fighting alone would gradually increase their power. Concept of the harnesses energy and getting stronger with it is exemplified through weaker Dragon Ball characters such as Tien, Krillin, Piccolo, Master Roshi, which is the reason why they're able to compete with their Saiyan counterparts and contest in the Tournament of Power. Either way, Frieza would be trounced by the Saiyan Prince sooner or later--their fight is literally a ticking time bomb.
"Quick training session with chi chi" ;-)
Vegeta gets W in this timeline. 🥳🥳🥳
A little bit darker still. Yes he would survive the explosion... but that is probably far worse.
He will suffocate to death and regenerate endlessly. Which is far worse, if he's lucky someone comes along and picks him up in a ship out of curiosity.
Damn long as what if
People do realize that Immortal just means that you'd live forever, never dying of natural causes, right? You'd want "invulnerability" which would make it so you can't be hurt physically.
@Laughingstock Media,
How EXACTLY would the Shadow Dragons Saga play out, with The GT Fighters and Immortal Vegeta involved?
I imagine his zenkai boost are like cell, blasting him into pieces or just crushing him, will give him a boost, but not a crazy boost, since ssj2 is only a multiplier of 2, and cell was crushing ssj. As for vegeta in space I see him the same way as Goku Black, he can survive in space, and move freely.
The real mystery is in which version of immortality will he have, if he can make clones like the manga merged zamasu, frieza will probably be defeated by a army of Vegeta’s, if it’s the anime Astro form, than cell would probably destroy vegeta body, but maybe he could absorb his Astro form, it wouldn’t be nearly as powerful, so it might just be limited.
Okay Goku did not defeat Vegeta it took Gohan Goku krillin Yahoo robe and that Spirit bomb to make it where Vegeta had to retreat they did not technically defeat him
@Happy Thoughts thank you at least someone agrees why is everyone keeps saying Goku defeated Vegeta in the first fight no he didn't
@Happy Thoughts try the past 3 decades we knew this
@@secoTheSonicFan alot of "fans" these days only watch RUclips clips of the show so they don't even know what they are talking about. It doesn't help that vegeta took on a weird personality change after namek. He was irritated that goku surpassed him when he came to namek...but begged goku to finish frieza...then hated goku for finishing frieza in the buu arc. Right now in the super manga vegeta may have a lot of further development so we shall see where this goes. I won't spoil it for anyone who doesn't read the manga but stay tuned.
Not sure why this assumes he would still be a good guy. From what I see he's only the character he is now because life kept pounding humility into him. More than likely, after Frieza was defeated he'd begin rebuilding his kingdom. He could try to focus on the remaining Saiyans, but with only two alive that he knows of, he would probably try to usurp King Cold.
Whis: Congratulations on becoming the new God of destruction.
Vegeta: Yes! Watch out universe, super destroyer vegeta has arrived.
Whis: And with this, your life link with the Supreme Kai has been established.
Vegeta:... what?
Whis: Oh my. It seems as though it slipped my mind to inform you of this little detail. Oops. I'm sure it'll be fine though.
Vegeta: Whis.
Whis: Yes?
Vegeta: We're going to Earth. I have a "box" of sorts as a gift to my new life partner. And I promise you this, it's going to make "waves" when I present it to him.
I think vegeta stop caring once he saw Goku go SSJ. Seeing how powerful a sayian could be become made him lost interest. Becoming a SSJ was his main focus after that he didn't seem to care once he discovered the legend to be true
Interesting to think about, but I think the part where vegeta being wished back to the earth doesn't make sense unless goku really is a jerk. You said it yourself that both goku and vegeta in your scenario would team up against frieza so it wouldn't make sense for vegeta to be teleported to earth when he could stick around in the fight because he cannot be killed. He would also tell goku when goku is speaking about the wish that he also wants to stay on namek to which goku will respect and has no reason to say no since vegeta cannot be killed.
One key difference to vegeta being on namek when everyone is wished to be teleported to earth except vegeta and goku is that goku might not go to yardrat and catch the heart virus or learn the instant transmission. It still could play out that way, but considering vegeta is there, goku could go off to look for a space ship and have more time to set the coordinates for earth instead of yardrat. The only reason goku landed on yardrat at least in the anime was because he had no time to plot a course for earth so he just put some random course and got yardrat but considering vegeta could take over and hold frieza off to give goku time, he would get more time to escape, actually plot a course for earth, not go to yardrat, not getting the heartvirus and the instant transmission, not dying from the heart virus on earth. Even if vegeta is weaker than super saiyan goku at this point in time, he can still give him time similar to how he held off kid buu and bought goku time.
He might be able to become super sayian 4. Since he has regeneration, his tail might grow back and he would be able to become a golden oozaru as Goku did and then become ssj4.
Laughingstockmedia How strong was gohan in the android saga before he became a super saiyan
Strong enough to knock Gero off of Piccolo..
If Frieza blew up Namek due to frustration, then why would we assume that Vegeta would just float in space forever? We don't assume that Frieza would too. We just think he flies away. Why not Vegeta?
Okay. Now let's talk MORE details about that "training with ChiChi" part. @24:17
Hmmm?..
You do realize that DBZ fighters don't need any kind of physical or natural planet existing to fly right? They can fly through space all the same. It's Chi control. Vegeta could literally eternally fly anywhere if he's immortal.
I think he still need air for respiratory functions and things like thinking lol
@@theonlychickensama8353 Pretty sure if that's the case, the moment Goku and Beerus took their fight to above the atmosphere, Goku would be turning into an even bigger bumbling moron.
They don't need that clearly, as Saiyans, like humans do, and especially not an immortal.
@@KaiserTrigger They were in the upper atmosphere, not the vacuum of space. As if space really didn't matter why did Goku and 17 just fly out into space willingly during the 17 episode with the space poachers, instead seemed pretty unwilling of getting suck into deep space.
Plus it's not like he can't hold his breath, it's just they can't hold it forever, especially if it's vegeta flying away from somewhere as remote as Namek
@@theonlychickensama8353 Human's can't hold their breathe in space and survive. So Saiyans are still built different.
And Vegeta could fly so fast remoteness wouldn't matter. You think he wouldn't just fly as far as he could till reaching a planet?
Find a planet. Land on it. Problem solved. The problem of not having a planet to walk on.
@@KaiserTrigger What do you mean the human characters can't hold their breath? We know sayian need air as Goku was getting drowned in that same Arc by Frieza on Namek
And Not really, if he could supposedly fly so fast why bother with the space pods at all?
Heck let give you the benefit of the doudt, he has no coordinates and no idea where he going. Much less find a planet with breathable atmosphere based on the early workings of his ki sensing abilities alone.
He's going to need to breath and he's going to trapped in a loop of floating suffocation
Dope
I think he gave up on wishing for immortality probably for similar reasons why Frieza gave up on the wish: Being too powerful leads to complacency. Frieza only lost because he never trained a day in his life. He would not have lost to Goku if he had. Vegeta trained his ass off constantly for the sole purpose of beating Frieza, but his plan with immortality was to outlast him instead of actually guaranteeing his victory. He could afford to take riskier and riskier fights because he could not die which would lead to him being able to train harder than any living person physically would be able, but would he even want to train?
Being immortal means you lose all sense of danger since you cannot die. I think a sense of self preservation is definitely an important factor to a lot of the character's training throughout the series. They aren't necessarily fighting because they have a goal to surpass somebody, but rather they are fighting to make sure they are prepared for the potential threats out there.
The thing is though, Cell in this version of events would be a shitton more powerful and have numerous different powers the original didn't, such as magic and possibly even those of Beerus. With all those abilities, he'd possess several ways to remove Vegeta from the equation permanently (like the Stone Spit or the Mafuba), and with him gone he could easily get the Dragonballs and revive the Androids to become Perfect.
Cell is that one enemy where any change to the timeline prior to his birth will also influence him. The only other instance I can think of in that regard is Zamasu.
Also it's possible Merus might free Buu from his seal so he can try to coax out the Grand Supreme Kai, which would spell disaster if Buu likes Goat meat...
By the way, in your community announcement for this video, I asked if you were gonna do "What if Dr Gero had turned good", and I still think it's an interesting possibility, especially if his son is still alive too.
@@secoTheSonicFan If I can recall, their data stopped at the Vegeta fight. (no clue how they managed to gain samples from both Mecha frieza AND king cold, but have no idea about Super Saiyans or Namek)
@@beanos8024 Gero's data stopped at Vegeta. The Supercomputer didn't ever actually stop until Cell had fully formed and could live outside the test tube.
@@secoTheSonicFan He wouldn't have immortality, but he should have eternal life in the sense that time couldn't kill him (his Cells perfectly replicate him at his prime so aging doesn't occur). Regardless, he has a combo of Namekian, Frieza Race and Saiyan DNA, so he's still near-impossible to kill without a massive power gap. As for Magic, the Supercomputer can record that, so Cell should have knowledge on how to do it combined with the genetic potential for it. Also, gods were never implied to be exempt from data recording. Whis could use Ultra Instinct to prevent it, but both Beerus and Shin would have no clue so they're gonna get data collected.
@@jamainegardner4193 oh, gotcha, that makes much more sense.
He would be chilling with Garlic Jr.
"training session with chichi" 😂😂