I'm a mechanic 👨🔧👨🏭, I have 16 experereants. I have a chainsaw and I fix it some Times. I know how to repair small engines, cars, motorcycles. I love your videos 🤝8-)
My chainsaw stopped working since last week it has no spark,after disconnecting ignition wire it sparks a lil though. I would like to know what should be done next
My Chinese chainsaw which is new has the same symptom. Run strong when cold then dies and won't start when warm. I replaced the carburetor. Same thing starts right up when cold. Why would coil fail when warm?
Thanks for taking the time to upload. Managed to fix 'no spark' issue. It turned out not to be the ignition unit but a combination of bad earth and loose switch cable. You gave me the confidence to properly open up and investigate. Cheers from SCOTLAND!
Thank you so much for all your instructions! You've walked me thru three repairs so far and your step by step diagnosis and repair instructions are so easy to follow. So glad i didn't chuck my ms170 to the trash bin. I've probably cut about four or five cords of almond and fig wood since installing my ignition coil with your help. Again thank you.
Love my ms261C but replaced both oil pump $120 and ignition module $170 in first 3 years. Have a 1984 sthil 028 wood boss only part ever had to replace was carb boot. I’m pretty handy fixing stuff but Donny your videos are the absolute best on you tube and are very helpful to me. Thank You
Excellent video Dony. Your production quality is right up there with DIY tv shows. It's obvious you spend a lot of time getting your shots just right, and editing the videos very well.
I normally don't get into comments but I must thank you. I have a Stihl 012AV that most certainly had an issue with dying when it got hot. Your comment that the spark plug can contribute to this saved me! You cannot purchase an ignition module anymore for my saw...so I thought I would at least try the spark plug after your comment...it worked!!! Before the saw would fire up no problem, run great...then die once it was hot. I replaced with a brand new NGK, it fired up, it got hot, it got hotter, it screamed, it wailed...it did not die! Before getting a new module one must try a new plug first. Thank you for your help!
Great troubleshooting video. Thanks for running the saw. Always nice to see the repair all the way through. For anyone passionate about IC engines, we always love to see them come alive.
I especially liked the tip about disconnecting the positive wire isolates it to the coil exclusively. That made me much more confident to order a new coil. Thanks!
Thanks Dony! My saw won't start. No spark. The shop is two weeks out to repair it. But; thanks to you, I'll order a new coil kit and fix it myself and save a bunch of money by doing so.
this hus 240 has me stump no spark replaced coil/flywheel removed ground lead also check coil to ground new spark plug and still no spark turn flywheel with drill motor approx 1500 rpm and still no spark any suggestion
Thanks for all of these videos. Neither my MS180C nor my 026 Pro would start after sitting for a year. Using your diagnostic tips and some relatively inexpensive parts, I have them both up and running.
Great video had no idea where the ignition module was and troubleshooting a grounded ignition,fixed myself on the farm saved me time and money thank you very very much Dan
I liked the way you diagnosed the problem and fixed that chainsaw. I have a Stihl chainsaw which is hard to pull over and don't want to start for me. The saw have been in the shop several times and I still have problems with it. After the problems I have had my solution is to never buy another Stihl saw again.
Great video Dony, However, I would like to add one more tid-bit of advice. I have a Poulen 2250 that was driving me crazy. I had checked for spark and the spark plug was sparking fine but it would not start. Even with starter fluid it would not start. The carb was good, the gas lines were good, good compression, the spark plug was sparking but it would not run. Then I noticed an unusually large gap between the ignition coil and the flywheel. Why or how that happened I’ll never know. After I properly gapped the ignition coil the old 2250 runs like a new one. Thought I would share that with you so you can pass it on.
I tested my spark plug using your method. It was just a bad wire connection to control module and that fixed my Husqvarna's saw starting problem. Thank you so much!
You made my day after my Ms660 stopped working when hot. I thought I had flooded it, but no spark, I had a coil on hand, with your instructions it was back at work within 15 minutes. It started 1st pull the next morning. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your time and knowledge. You have given me the confidence to this seventy year old timer to rebuild my Stihl MS180C. You do a great service. Denny, Caope Cod
New subscriber here, I have a 044 Stihl chainsaw. Recently, it only ran when it was cold and shut down once it warmed up but now it won't even start no more. I strongly believe it's the ignition module, haven't replace that for many years. Thanks for the info video.
Thanks, helped me quickly diagnose a Chinese 6200 62cc chainsaw where the on off switch was bad right new from the factory. Once I unplugged that black wire from the coil the spark plug was sparking while cranking. I'm sure that definitely means they don't do quality control or start each one up before packing them up. Anyway, ordered 5 new switches from ebay for half the price that one would cost shipped from a USA seller. While it's probably gonna take up to a month to arrive, I just turn it off with the choke, they turn off fine that way too.
Thank you for the very descriptive video. I don't know small engines at all and all other vids say magnets at top, but don't say what they are. So thank you from a new home mechanic for the great video!
Obviously I'm having these problems since I'm here. I have an MS271, but mine looks newer. I looked up both, ignition module, which I bought and searched coil. Photos online look like the same exact part. I anticipate mine is headed to a repair shop.
Excellent Help. Following your instructions to replace the MS 280 ignition module it now starts right up. However, at one point you mention starting problems could also be in some other part of the electrical system. Now, some time later after cutting a cord or two my saw will not TURN OFF when I move the switch to the OFF position. It sure would be nice to see more info about the other parts of the electrical system and what kinds of problems they might typically have.
One of the first things I check is the position of the bayonet lug on the end of the spark plug wire. These can be undone by users pulling the spark plug wire, haphazardly. I usually take my carb adjustment screwdriver and insert it in the boot and feel for the bayonet lug in the bottom of the boot. A lot of times it has been pushed back down the end of the boot where it can no longer connect the spark plug If this happens, I pull it out of the boot , connect it back on the spark plug wire and inset it back into the boot and re-check it for spark. A lot of times this fixes the problem, sometimes not. I then troubleshoot the coil if I still do not have spark, but this is my first check. .
Excellent, excellent video with The perfect amount of details to troubleshoot the problem on my Husqvarna 136. Thanks very much Dony! Luckily, my coil module is less than $20 online.
hey pal, southern cally big dood here, i kinow theres naysayers in our world, but after THIS video, why would ya want to do a thumbs down. Great Great info. Blessings as always, snj
Thanks for your efforts regarding the replacement of this component in the still however the reality in the cost in doing so in new zealand makes the job prohibitive of course this is due to the expensive cost of parts that module retail price of $195 . thanks for your vido kind regards snell
After replacing the ignition module I tried testing for a spark by turning the flywheel rapidly using my hand. When I did not get a spark I assumed the problem hadn’t been fixed. Come to find out you can’t turn the flywheel quickly enough by hand to get a spark. Once I reinstalled the recoil starter I had a good spark.
Is ignition module failure a known problem with the MS 270, MS 280 saws? I've had an MS 270 for at least a dozen years, and I just had to replace my 5th module. This last one cost $160 from the Stihl dealer. I use the saw, maybe, 6-8 times a year, so it's not like it's getting a ton of use. I'm just getting frustrated at having to keep replacing a module, when I could buy a brand new equivalent saw for 3 times the price of the module. I'm tempted to just buy cheap aftermarket modules, because, if nothing else, I'll feel like I got my money's worth if it fails in a year or 2. Any thoughts?
A business card is usually fine for setting the air gap, as long as it is .010 thick. Some are thicker. The Stihl spec is .15-.30mm, or .006-..012 inches, so a .010 thick business card is fine.
Awesome vid. Thanks! Think my 064's got a bad one. Runs good till hot, dies won't start. Now I'm at the point where it simply won't start and spark is present but seems kinda random or where you really got pull it to see it. I'll try the things you show here. Thanks!
Thank you for the help mate - from Australia *use a playing card 'guage' by the verniers it was 0.9 I'm getting 2 years from $14 coils from eBay - Carbs for the lower end MS series under $20 as well compared to the Stihl 'Genuine' parts.That genuine coil in OzTralia is about $80 USD
great video again Dony. I am working on a new MS261C m-tronic saw that has no spark. I also found that when the chain break is engaged you cannot pull the recoi. I pulled the break cover off and found one of the tension springs was broken. I wounder if that may have contributed to the no spark issue. I'll do some more troubleshooting and make sure it's the coil.
Both wires were open and frayed before taking it apart, good chance that could be the problem, also double check with multi meter... Plus the gaps were way different Good job
I picked up a dolmar PS 420 that won't start only pops once..has spark. Immediately suspected the coil..checked flywheel key just to be sure...great video thanks
All good info. one bit you should mention , that is the Spark plug is a Resistive type and that if you use a none Resistive Spark plug or HT lead type then you will damage your control board.
Doc I got a got a stihl fs80r trimer 4137 3401 and put a new ignition coil 4137 -400-1350 and switch is good but no spark? Thank you for the videos you doing a good job!
Imagine how many Stealerships must hate you for giving us all this good information. However, they don't have to worry as 99% of people out there will never try to repair their own equipment. Too busy, or too scared, or too lazy.
Another great and helpful video. I have this same saw and can’t figure out how to plug the hole for winter operation. Am I missing a part to cover the hole for summer?
Hello I have a chainsaw homelite 340, its coil ignition burns, I have not found on the market a replacement for the same model, can I use another model of a other brand? thanks for your vide
Does your chainsaw only run until it gets warm, or will it not even start at all? It could be that you have weak or no spark at all at the spark plug.
I'm a mechanic 👨🔧👨🏭, I have 16 experereants.
I have a chainsaw and I fix it some Times. I know how to repair small engines, cars, motorcycles. I love your videos 🤝8-)
My chainsaw stopped working since last week it has no spark,after disconnecting ignition wire it sparks a lil though. I would like to know what should be done next
My Chinese chainsaw which is new has the same symptom. Run strong when cold then dies and won't start when warm. I replaced the carburetor. Same thing starts right up when cold. Why would coil fail when warm?
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Thanks for taking the time to upload. Managed to fix 'no spark' issue. It turned out not to be the ignition unit but a combination of bad earth and loose switch cable. You gave me the confidence to properly open up and investigate. Cheers from SCOTLAND!
Thank you so much for all your instructions! You've walked me thru three repairs so far and your step by step diagnosis and repair instructions are so easy to follow. So glad i didn't chuck my ms170 to the trash bin. I've probably cut about four or five cords of almond and fig wood since installing my ignition coil with your help. Again thank you.
Love my ms261C but replaced both oil pump $120 and ignition module $170 in first 3 years. Have a 1984 sthil 028 wood boss only part ever had to replace was carb boot. I’m pretty handy fixing stuff but Donny your videos are the absolute best on you tube and are very helpful to me. Thank You
Excellent video Dony. Your production quality is right up there with DIY tv shows. It's obvious you spend a lot of time getting your shots just right, and editing the videos very well.
I normally don't get into comments but I must thank you. I have a Stihl 012AV that most certainly had an issue with dying when it got hot. Your comment that the spark plug can contribute to this saved me! You cannot purchase an ignition module anymore for my saw...so I thought I would at least try the spark plug after your comment...it worked!!! Before the saw would fire up no problem, run great...then die once it was hot. I replaced with a brand new NGK, it fired up, it got hot, it got hotter, it screamed, it wailed...it did not die! Before getting a new module one must try a new plug first. Thank you for your help!
Great troubleshooting video. Thanks for running the saw. Always nice to see the repair all the way through. For anyone passionate about IC engines, we always love to see them come alive.
I especially liked the tip about disconnecting the positive wire isolates it to the coil exclusively. That made me much more confident to order a new coil. Thanks!
Thanks Dony! My saw won't start. No spark. The shop is two weeks out to repair it. But; thanks to you, I'll order a new coil kit and fix it myself and save a bunch of money by doing so.
this hus 240 has me stump no spark replaced coil/flywheel removed ground lead also check coil to ground new spark plug and still no spark turn flywheel with drill motor approx 1500 rpm and still no spark any suggestion
Thanks for all of these videos. Neither my MS180C nor my 026 Pro would start after sitting for a year. Using your diagnostic tips and some relatively inexpensive parts, I have them both up and running.
Great video had no idea where the ignition module was and troubleshooting a grounded ignition,fixed myself on the farm saved me time and money thank you very very much
Dan
Thank you for the video. Great job, straight to the point with no rambling on how to replace the module.
RUclips is great; excellent videos like this allow us DIYs to save a lot of money. Thank you.
Great teaching! Very clear and no wasted time. Thank you!!!
I liked the way you diagnosed the problem and fixed that chainsaw. I have a Stihl chainsaw which is hard to pull over and don't want to start for me. The saw have been in the shop several times and I still have problems with it. After the problems I have had my solution is to never buy another Stihl saw again.
Great video Dony, However, I would like to add one more tid-bit of advice. I have a Poulen 2250 that was driving me crazy. I had checked for spark and the spark plug was sparking fine but it would not start. Even with starter fluid it would not start. The carb was good, the gas lines were good, good compression, the spark plug was sparking but it would not run. Then I noticed an unusually large gap between the ignition coil and the flywheel. Why or how that happened I’ll never know. After I properly gapped the ignition coil the old 2250 runs like a new one. Thought I would share that with you so you can pass it on.
hay dony thanks for donate your time to help others, you make the world a better place.
I tested my spark plug using your method. It was just a bad wire connection to control module and that fixed my Husqvarna's saw starting problem. Thank you so much!
You made my day after my Ms660 stopped working when hot. I thought I had flooded it, but no spark, I had a coil on hand, with your instructions it was back at work within 15 minutes. It started 1st pull the next morning. Thanks.
You make it look easy, sometimes things will fall into place and some times not so much.
Thank you so much for your time and knowledge. You have given me the confidence to this seventy year old timer to rebuild my Stihl MS180C. You do a great service. Denny, Caope Cod
I've had the spark plug close to the opening and pulled the rope, it does make a pretty good flash when the fuel ignites..lol
I have lost arm hair from that!
I passed silver school but your videos really help better than the modules on icademy
thank you for showing us how easy it could be to find the reason with ignition problems! Great job !
I am a stihl tech i like how the inside of the saw was clean
You are a excellent teacher - thank u 4 your help & God bless u :)
Excellent presentation simple/short and clear.
New subscriber here, I have a 044 Stihl chainsaw. Recently, it only ran when it was cold and shut down once it warmed up but now it won't even start no more. I strongly believe it's the ignition module, haven't replace that for many years. Thanks for the info video.
This video is one of the best I've seen in a while. I learned quite a bit watching.
Thanks, helped me quickly diagnose a Chinese 6200 62cc chainsaw where the on off switch was bad right new from the factory. Once I unplugged that black wire from the coil the spark plug was sparking while cranking. I'm sure that definitely means they don't do quality control or start each one up before packing them up. Anyway, ordered 5 new switches from ebay for half the price that one would cost shipped from a USA seller. While it's probably gonna take up to a month to arrive, I just turn it off with the choke, they turn off fine that way too.
Dony thanks you so much I had a weak coil it would start some time had me question what was wrong. Your videos are easy to understand God bless you.
These coils are expensive. I have been looking for an aftermarket. But no luck. Thanks Don. Great video. I recognised the part # in the your comments.
Excellent job with the "zoom ins" you should contract out to Canadian and American industry.
Thanks Don. The coil on my little MS211 seems to have gave up. This video was exactly what I needed.
great video and super presentation skills. To the point, clear explanations and FREE. Thanks a lot.
dony boy is a great technician.very helpful
Precise and explained simply . Top job :)
Great instructional video. Thank you!
Superb, clear advice, thanks very much, job done, my saw is back running so I am a happy boy again.
Thank you for the very descriptive video. I don't know small engines at all and all other vids say magnets at top, but don't say what they are. So thank you from a new home mechanic for the great video!
Very good. You explain the process and reasoning very nicely.
Thanks Danny for making the universe make sense again. 😊
Obviously I'm having these problems since I'm here. I have an MS271, but mine looks newer. I looked up both, ignition module, which I bought and searched coil. Photos online look like the same exact part. I anticipate mine is headed to a repair shop.
Excellent video. Step by step and very clear with great tips.
4:40 I dont know on witch side i have to put the paper to make space. Thank you for all video you share with us.
Excellent tutorial, I will try on my non-Stihl chainsaw as its not starting.
Great video, easy to follow and understand.
Excellent Help. Following your instructions to replace the MS 280 ignition module it now starts right up. However, at one point you mention starting problems could also be in some other part of the electrical system. Now, some time later after cutting a cord or two my saw will not TURN OFF when I move the switch to the OFF position. It sure would be nice to see more info about the other parts of the electrical system and what kinds of problems they might typically have.
Nice video. Informative, high def, good camera work, Good naration. Thanks!
Best no nonsense chainsaw tutorial channel.
One of the first things I check is the position of the bayonet lug on the end of the spark plug wire. These can be undone by users pulling the spark plug wire, haphazardly. I usually take my carb adjustment screwdriver and insert it in the boot and feel for the bayonet lug in the bottom of the boot. A lot of times it has been pushed back down the end of the boot where it can no longer connect the spark plug If this happens, I pull it out of the boot , connect it back on the spark plug wire and inset it back into the boot and re-check it for spark. A lot of times this fixes the problem, sometimes not. I then troubleshoot the coil if I still do not have spark, but this is my first check.
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Excellent, excellent video with The perfect amount of details to troubleshoot the problem on my Husqvarna 136. Thanks very much Dony! Luckily, my coil module is less than $20 online.
Thanks a lot brother have a blessed day 🙏
Thanks for your through explanation.
hey pal, southern cally big dood here, i kinow theres naysayers in our world, but after THIS video, why would ya want to do a thumbs down.
Great Great info.
Blessings as always, snj
Thanks, great video very well done. I can go and replace my coil with confidence now.
Thanks for your efforts regarding the replacement of this component in the still however the reality in the cost in doing so in new zealand makes the job prohibitive of course this is due to the expensive cost of parts that module retail price of $195 . thanks for your vido kind regards snell
After replacing the ignition module I tried testing for a spark by turning the flywheel rapidly using my hand. When I did not get a spark I assumed the problem hadn’t been fixed. Come to find out you can’t turn the flywheel quickly enough by hand to get a spark. Once I reinstalled the recoil starter I had a good spark.
Great video Tony, very informative and super easy to follow.
excellentm . loved the cardboard tip.
Is ignition module failure a known problem with the MS 270, MS 280 saws? I've had an MS 270 for at least a dozen years, and I just had to replace my 5th module. This last one cost $160 from the Stihl dealer. I use the saw, maybe, 6-8 times a year, so it's not like it's getting a ton of use. I'm just getting frustrated at having to keep replacing a module, when I could buy a brand new equivalent saw for 3 times the price of the module. I'm tempted to just buy cheap aftermarket modules, because, if nothing else, I'll feel like I got my money's worth if it fails in a year or 2. Any thoughts?
thanks a lot sir good teaching big help tnx boyet in philippines 👍
A business card is usually fine for setting the air gap, as long as it is .010 thick. Some are thicker. The Stihl spec is .15-.30mm, or .006-..012 inches, so a .010 thick business card is fine.
Thank you for all the valuable information... you inspire me to fix my own equipment... thanks again.....
Awesome vid. Thanks! Think my 064's got a bad one. Runs good till hot, dies won't start. Now I'm at the point where it simply won't start and spark is present but seems kinda random or where you really got pull it to see it. I'll try the things you show here. Thanks!
Thank you for the help mate - from Australia *use a playing card 'guage' by the verniers it was 0.9
I'm getting 2 years from $14 coils from eBay - Carbs for the lower end MS series under $20 as well compared to the Stihl 'Genuine' parts.That genuine coil in OzTralia is about $80 USD
You f'in rock man, thanks for helping all of us DIY'rs along!
thanks dude
Thank you for your help.
Really good, helpful and informative guide. Thank you
great video again Dony. I am working on a new MS261C m-tronic saw that has no spark. I also found that when the chain break is engaged you cannot pull the recoi. I pulled the break cover off and found one of the tension springs was broken. I wounder if that may have contributed to the no spark issue. I'll do some more troubleshooting and make sure it's the coil.
Both wires were open and frayed before taking it apart, good chance that could be the problem, also double check with multi meter...
Plus the gaps were way different
Good job
Thank you I took this apart and needed help, getting it back together appreciate the detail
Great to hear!
I picked up a dolmar PS 420 that won't start only pops once..has spark. Immediately suspected the coil..checked flywheel key just to be sure...great video thanks
I learned so much from you Don just what I always needed thank you do much.
Slt.bravo bravo Very good job monsieur technicien merci beaucoup de votre technique personnel
vous etes bienvenue!
Thanks alot for your video it helped me fix my saw it was the coil awesome job
All good info. one bit you should mention , that is the Spark plug is a Resistive type and that if you use a none Resistive Spark plug or HT lead type then you will damage your control board.
Dony is a good mechanic 4Sure, thanks .And he likes that big power Stihl MS270
excellent video very easy to follow very helpful thanks so much
Thanks for a good teaching god bless you
You made that look so easy. Great job Donny!
Doc I got a got a stihl fs80r trimer 4137 3401 and put a new ignition coil 4137 -400-1350 and switch is good but no spark? Thank you for the videos you doing a good job!
Donny I would like ,to see a video about what to look for if it's not the module.
Thanks for the videos.
Thanks donnyboy after watching several of your video's I gained enough confidence to rebuild an old jonsered 2150 and she runs well
Imagine how many Stealerships must hate you for giving us all this good information.
However, they don't have to worry as 99% of people out there will never try to repair their own equipment. Too busy, or too scared, or too lazy.
Awesome tutorial, thank you.
Another great and helpful video.
I have this same saw and can’t figure out how to plug
the hole for winter operation. Am I missing a part to cover the hole for summer?
Great video. Thanks, good to see repair video's again.
Exceptional video. Thank you
Thank you, good stuff
Great video Dony!
Good Deal !!! Very helpful. Perfection!
Always great to listen to 😎
ANOTHER GREAT TUTORIAL - THANKYOU
Hello
I have a chainsaw homelite 340, its coil ignition burns, I have not found on the market a replacement for the same model, can I use another model of a
other brand?
thanks for your vide
I have the same problem with an echo kiuritz cs302! There should be a workaround on that...
Bravo merci a vous travail de pro !
great, many thanks
Thank you