The TRUE Tank Buster Isn't Cheap - SU-39 Dev - War Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2023
- The SU-39 will be coming to War Thunder very soon.. Being the first with a built in IRCM for a fixed winged aircraft, while also featuring the dreaded Vikhr Missiles?! Top tier will become more.. Interesting.
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A developer who cared about the gameplay wouldn't have added drones. This was inevitable.
Drones should have been a separate branch on helicopter tree
@@dusanvukobratovic7659what??? 😂😂😂
@@dusanvukobratovic7659 Attack Drones should have never existed in this game period
@@youwotmate7705 why not? NO OTHER games with graphic better than war Thunder allow you to realistically play as a drone and destroy player controlled ground vehicles in a 16 v 16 + lobby…stop hating
It was, but this was bound to happen.
Ah yes. The best Su-25 variant in existence is coming as a premium. Cool Gaijin.
Basically, in game the Su25T and Su39 in game right now are almost the same, difference being the radar pod.
Su39 can carry R73, R27R and is capable of using the R77 aswell. Its also capable of carrying various anti-ship missiles. This stuff isn't in War Thunder yet, but when it comes, it will be locked behind a massive paywall nice.
Thx
Im sorry but i secretly want the R-27's on it
Is that stuff it can do, or stuff Russia says it can do?
@@chungusbooper there are photos of it carrying R-27's and it has a radar pod so no reason why it couldn't. But yeah multiple sources and photo evidence says it can
@@chungusbooper Well that doesn't matter. Plus there is photo evidence of it carrying these things.
The ability to use the Vikhr with the Mig-27k style camera is insane
I find it awesome only because im a Russia main
The 2S28 of this patch 😅
Love ya Justin and fellow viewers ❤
What happened to 2S38?
@@wifi_soldier5076 nothing its still broken asf imagine a otomatic at 10.0 with more features
@@inkozebadigbadig37 then why say this patch as if something changed?
@@blablabla6975 he's saying this plane holds the same position as the 2s38. A broken op premium vehicle in the russian tree
@@inkozebadigbadig37 imagine losing a war to ukraine
Its definitely going to be a $70 vehicle pack, the same as the F-4S and one of the MiG variants
duh, thats obvious. rank 7 GE vehicles wont be added for a bit, because they aren't going to cost 70 USD. These packs can make 70 USD
Yeah, i also hope that you can remove the radar to replace it with other atgms or rockets as the radar works only with moving targets and its not very useful as when im looking around with tanks i stand still to be able to hear other players or jets coming
It's already a 90$cad pre-order rn
@@Mike_Literus i swear that if someone dares to pre order that thing at 90$ after seeing how gaijin treated us they should be teamkilled in every single fucking game
@@TM450FI i did pre order it when it was announced cuz it showed parashute bombs
Roland will have a hard time killing this, vikhr can just head on it to death, meanwhile Roland 3 sometimes doesn’t like to even crit su25
The Su-25TM (39) should have absolutely been added with the A-10C or another contemporary, but I feel the Su-25T and A-10A (L) are a great match.
Just noticed the 11.3 BR while Britains Harrier GR7 is 11.7
Harrier is faster than this thing
@@lookatthesky6093 still subsonic, and harrier being same br as f14 ?
@@dendis2158 aways has been
@@lookatthesky6093 i know if always has been, I just don't see a good explanation for it
@@dendis2158ground attack ordnance along with aim9ls
Hey always remember if you see an ADATS on the enemy team make sure to fly in a straight line at it and fire multiple missiles with about one to two seconds in-between the vikhrs missiles. They can set off the warhead of the ADATS missile do to both of them having proxy fuse. 6 meters on the ADATS and IIRC 3 meters on the Vikhrs.
The main reason I know this is do to playing the ADATS a shit ton the Ka-50/52 can out missile you when you try to shoot them and do to the high speed of the missile if you try to maneuver it around to avoid the enemy missile you'll end up missing.
I used to be excited for new patches/content updates but now every update I just see a reason to not play anymore, I hope Gaijin can really turn it around and bring WT back to the game I invested 3k hours into but deep down I know that'll probably never happen sadly
The kh29te missiles are TV guided so fire and forget and have a 30km range. You can carry two on the innermost pylons
I don't think there should be a second premium su-25 in war thunder, same goes for the A-10 imo.
i expect them to add some sort of late A-10C at some point as well.
Agreed
In Air-RB at that BR it's going to get absolutely rekt though, in the Su-25k I struggle daily to not get killed by F-5s everyday
@@Justin-fg2im Su-25s are just free kills I don't understand why so many people fly it out when its destined for the scrap heap
@@FallatarTheRedIts tanky as hell. I usually never die without getting around 2 kills first
Hey justin i got ina game with you yesterday 😄😄 you were using torm1, fun time and cool seeing you im game keep up good work
It’s a pay to win Justin
Damn these mechanics
The one who pays the one who win
Damn your skill, your time, and your strategy
This game is frustrating tbh
They deserve every bad reaction happened to them
It's really important to say when something is fire and forget or it's possible to ripple fire. Meaning designate a target, fire, count five, fire, count five, fire, first target hit select second target, second target hit, select third target, third target hit.
11:30 the su39 and su25 have IRCM, this stands for infrared counter measures. it only works against heat seeking missiles without IRCCM (ingame irccm is ECCM which is electronic counter counter measures), this is why the ty90s missiles arent affected, they have ECCM. this is also why the SAM you tested wasnt affected, currently, we have 2 types of SAMs in game: ones that use heatseekers which all have ECCM (besides the new-ish russian sam). theres also radar/optically guided sams, which dont use a heat seeking head, so obviously the IRCM wouldnt affect those. this system will be best against other jets and not much else. that is until we get more modern missiles with IRCCM. hopefully that clears up some of the confusion for you
Dang if only there was a way to play just ground vehicles in GROUND RB, I think it would be fair to allow pantsir and other AA aground vehicles into air RB for the sake of fairness
@Mitron43 Sadly that won't happen because Gaijin won't allow it to happen. Mixed battles would DIE in an instant if they were to add Ground Only battles. The bulk of their income is not from ground premiums but from the CAS/AIR premiums like those helis that you can spawn at the start of battle in a "Ground RB". You noticed this past few updates they kept appeasing those CAS enjoyers by adding braindead premium jets/helis for braindead players for easy kills. If you noticed then you know why there will be no GROUND ONLY battle ever.
It would be nice if medium and long range AA was added as a factor to play around that isn’t in all games like Night battles. Being forced to stay low or constantly dodging missiles at altitude would force closer fights and generally alter gameplay.
the SU39 is essentially a SU25T with an added kopoyo radar and thats it. There is also a two seater variant.
So a Subsonic Ka50 but the IRCM is nice on the Su-25T. But supposedly they fixed the Vihkrs in some way so they are not so OP but it didn't seem to much different to me
A ka50 but better in every way
The true gaijin feature isn't too cheap lmfao with all respect to Justin plays❤❤❤❤we love u bro thx for all content
How do you lock onto targets?
A year ago we got the a-10 and then in the next patch the su-25 so i think this time we get the su-25t and in the next patch the a-10c
The biggest thing I found with this plane on the Dev server was how incredibly simple and quick the laser locked on and how super accurate they are. Compared to the super buggy Mavs on the A10. It's such a blatant bullshit addition by Gaijin. Also, wasn't the missile only ever tested once against a radio controlled old bomber flying super slow?
I have pre ordered su39 jet pack u get a cool sticker, 20 days of prem 2500 ge and nametag sergey strikes back
I will use the tech tree version i already have the noraml su 25 but i dont now if the tech tree version has a radar on it insted of an atachment
Never thought that missiles found mostly on helis would be good on a jet platform.
To make them more realistic they should have a 50/50 chance to fail and hit an elementary school
the SPO-15 RWR is more useful that a lot of people expect tbh.
it gives you the direction of the Radar source and a Strength of the signal, giving a good estimate for the range.
it will priotise the threads and it can tell you what locks you up
People just think its funny blinking lights, without looking into what it offers
It tells you what type of radar (sam, aa, etc) not what exactly
@@noobliterally2145 That's not even true. It gives you the different bands the radar source is pinging you with, and you have to use knowledge of what radar systems operate in what bands and other context to know what's firing at you. Some aircraft can share similar band warnings as some SAM systems.
im very surprised this wasnt a pre-order
Looking forward to shooting them down with FOX 2-s from my apache o.o
Each of the last few updates just lowers the max br I can play at and still have fun
when the ozelot has irccm yes then why cant i lock on to chopper with ircm and shot at them ????
What’s the default key for firing The Vikhr?
This game is so against beginners. There is no tutorial for high tier planes. I'm still trying to figure out how to lock the vikhrs and how to use that zoom optic to lock on
It's here because it's going to be fun. Will be buying it, but already ready to grind the TT as well.
yeah fun to shoot to shit lmao good luck dodging my aim7m's from 20 km away
and my r27er-1's from 40km away
Best payload for Su 25- x16 vikhr atgm, x6 S25O, x2 R60M. you don't have to switch between weapons with this payload.
only if you can afford the sp cost, x16 vikhr is probably more efficient sp wise
They should atleast buff the AA's for this patch
No
I‘m new on Pc can someone say which key I should select for a thing
Will it bee on discount this sale in june? Cause in descripotion it says "* - available after the next major update."
It won't. Most new vehicles won't see a discount until after 2 major patches of when it was introduced.
@@JustinPlaysTV Yes, I expected that , thanks,one more question should I buy zt or cv900105 what is better tech tree go grind
I get why its terrible to add the thing to the Game, especially considering the fact that as of Right now the SU-25T and TM (aka SU-39) Are thé exact Same in Game, but im still probably going to get it when I can because honestly I want a good cas and the SU-39 is my favorite cas aircraft
would the ircm mess with the irst of certain spaa's and ifv's like bradley and or lavd?
Not that I was aware of.
The su-25m3 is the latest version of the ash-25 family.
Is it just the dev server or does this have a better RWR than all other USSR planes because it can show the exact direction and not an approximation like US RWR
ill grinding the tech tree to unlock it. FAX
The only difference is that it says it has a radar pod on the premium
may 26th, remember guys
I have already thought of other things to do in the meantime. I have plenty of books to read, and I can take more time for running, spend time with family and maybe even play WarZone
ok so where the hell are the brimstones for the Tornado
how have you got so much lions and golden eagle? pls tell me playing this for years I have 600k lions and tier 11.3 max US
Meanwhile maverick missiles, with a WAYYYYY bigger warhead get hits all the time we’ll these things nuke. Classic
Ya i gave this thing a go and the Su-25T which is the same exact thing weapon-wise and might as well be the exact same thing. Also just like You/@JustinPlays just said this Su-39 really doesn't belong in the game this is very true as it has really no spot in AirRB or even GroundRB the thing is just gonna get DEMOLISHED being at 11.3 BR
Well its exactly like top tier aa, but without thermals and makind the sound of a jet. Point and click neuron activation
For so far i know the SU-39 is carrier airborne version of the SU-25T
Nope
They need to make aa super easy to grind for at minimum
No
@@sanmiguel4774 please, explain to me why u shouldnt have an extremely easy time getting the stuff to counter this demon
The point-and-click adventure game has reached new heights...
A developer who cared about the gameplay would add the SA8 TOR system so that people could intercept A/G missiles.
I don't really see what this has that the A10 late doesn't aside from Vikhrs, but the A10 gets more AGM-65s. All in all I don't see it being a game changer, the Mig-27K will still be better just because it's faster at top tier this thing will get torn a new ass hole. So pretty much just a cool fun jet rather than one that's going to stomp. Vikhrs are better used with Helis than fixed wing.
Im pretty sure Gaijin could make a lot of money by selling Premium TopTier AA too. So the Players can Pay for good CAS an the possibility to counter it.
Dont give them ideas
my line up is gonna be all spaas if this thing hits the live server
From reading other comments and Wiki the Su-39 was considered too expensive to produce, so they produced the Su-25SM3, which is cheaper and more advanced than the Su-39. They will probably add the Su-25SM3 in TT, maybe people want a 5 Air AB Su-25 loadout, haha.
While the Su-25SM3 has good thermal optics, it lacks the ability to carry the Vihkers, and the ability to carry the radar pod, which also means that unlike the Su-39 it cant fire radar guided missles....so yeah I'd much rather have the Su-39 over the Su-25SM3
@@SussyImposter9856 this means that the Su-25SM3 will have a lower br than the Su-39. Good AA missiles on CAS jets are a disadvantage, not an advantage.
@@tankistrazumist well sure, but I'd rather have the Su-39 anyways cus it's an overall better platform to use in both air and ground.
SU39 Is export version of SU-25T
im just not sure how we suppose to counter this thing in spaa
Thats the neat thing
You shot it. Its not a Mig27K, its slow and big target. Once it go for attack it need time to regain altitude.
radar missiles... and all top tier aa will be able to shoot it down
pretty much all spaa missiles either have ECCM or are radar guided, so the su39s IRCM has less of an effect in ground rb
It's just a worse version of the Ka-50, nothing special.
The difference between Su-25t and Su-39 is radar that's all
And most spaa's will have ECCM missiles soo... not against ground stuff but for other planes IRCM is good
In the future when its added it carries r73, r77, and anti ship missiles.
@@Boris_The_Turtle yep
I get quite mad about Gaijin about this move.
They create a plane that will be next to impossible to spade without getting serious mental damages, because it’s just a Piñata for other planes in 11.3 Air RB.
So they create a solution with a 70$(I guess) price tag on it.
And then they talk about a “fair play game” War Thunder, seriously?
That one of the biggest d*ck moves in any free to play game I’ve ever seen.
There was a post on the forum to have the su 25t and su 39 swapped, I don't think it will happen but at least a quite a few people agree with it, like I said I don't think it will happen
It won't happen. These kinds of decisions are already made up well in advance.
Ans now there are r73s on it🙂
vikhrs got buffed in 2nd dev server.
I thought Gaijin didn't want to add super modern stuff... So when Armata and Panther?^^
39 old jet
Got a stomach septumbreak 💨
As a Russia main, this was not needed. Added the A-10C if you want to atleast give some sort of balance. Also they use the Su-25M3 right, might’ve messed up the name. I guess we will see
Su-39 is a different name for the Su-25TM
as far i know the SU-39 is the Export Variant of the SU-25
for how it compares to the SU-25T no idea
its not really the export variant, the russian forces used them for a while, nowdays they are being exported, but from my knowledge the Su-39 wasnt sold so far.
The only difference between those 2 is that the Su-39 also known as Su-25TM is a modernization of the tech tree variant, and is capable to use radar guided missiles.
@@STRYKER1467 25TM/39 not series, abandoned in 1995
@@_b_x_b_1063 a small batch was created 8-10 i dont remember the exact numbers but the Su-39 which is spose to be exported is not the same as the one shown in the game, they removed alot of features like special equipment which is common for export vehicles.
I thought Gaijin would keep the preuim veichel out of top tier,seems like I am TOTALLY FREAKING WRONG.
Don't worry. Looks like ADATS has been nerfed and this both outranges the Stormer and can tank multiple Starstreaks if they don't hit right so there's very little that can reliably kill you.
Yeah that's the starstreak for you, gaijin doesn't make certain weapon systems as powerful as they could be and once were
@@ket451 To be fair, starstreak overall is actually really good now and arguably one of the best AA in game. Everything else it hits, including the A-10 just disintegrates. It's just the Russian SU's and MI's that for some reason can sometimes tank shots. My record is 7 critical hits on an SU and it still had enough control to revenge kill me.
Oh gosh, another Missle Thunder season.
Oh boy, get ready. Top Tier Tanks is going to be HELL if this plane is left alone. Jesus :O
from my understanding the Su-39 will be dookie at 11.3, worse than the Ka-50.
The Su-39 vs any aircraft 11.3 or higher in air rb will struggle severely due to its subsonic speed and probably large payload (as youre most effective bombing bases since 2 R-60Ms wont cut it against bvr missiles at top tier). Vikhrs got a severe nerf so using them as AAMs only work if your enemy has no clue you're there and is flying slowly in a straight line.
A huge reason why russian helicopters with vikhrs are considered OP in ground RB is the fact that:
1. Vikhrs were insane AAMs/AGMs
2. Vikhrs would detonate a SAM's proxy fuse and proceed to kill the SPAA that shot it
3. (Applies to all helis) They could hide behind or evade into cover
Now if we were to look at the Su-39, as a fixed wing aircraft, having the dexterity and agility of a helicopter hugging a mountain is next to impossible. You're heavy, subsonic, and unmaneuverable, aka a very easy target for a top tier SPAA.
It's also unlikely your Vikhr will detonate an SPAA's SAM as, unlike a hovering helicopter, the flight path your Vikhr takes to reach the SPAA wont intersect with the flight path the SPAA's SAM takes to reach you.
That is, unless you face the SPAA head-on, which is the worst thing you can do as a plane in top tier ground RB. You'll speed into the battlefield and be left very vulnerable trying to fly away to avoid other SPAA that may spawn in.
Not to mention the fact that any other jet at 11.3+ could easily intercept and shoot down a subsonic attacker with 16+ AGMs.
All things considered I can safely say this thing will probably be dookie so long you have an SPAA or aircraft to shoot it down
Damage for heli AAs. No. The only way id say this works is if its range is limited to 500m max
is this a misson
the plane does belong in the game but 11.3 is a little low , people complain because it is slow and wont do good in air rb but thats the thing its a cas plane made to do good in ground rb your just using it in the wrong game mode. a simple fix would be making it 12.0 for ground rb then 11.3 in air then this thing wouldnt be as broken
Justin you've played this game for long enough and you guys don't just look at the start card for the ECM information before you go in game. Sheesh
Russia suffered too much. And Vikhr still doesn't fly in a big spiral path like in real life.
But in WT Vikhr does not one shot tanks like irl
@TankistRazumist sounds like a skill issue there or sarcasm I rarely crit with the vikhr I mainly 1 shot anything I hit
Decal
ooofff rip top tier 16 vikhr's on a massively more mobile platform.
Another spam flare plane... Germany be like: Take 64 CM or leave it or smth
Yeah i will stick to ground AB
Love the dev sever content
A incurable disease is coming to top tier
the only difference i could find with the SU-39 and SU-25T is that the 25T is a dedicated antitank variant lmao
he meant the differences between them in the Game, not Real Life.
ADATS and Flarakrad boutta get hella popular
Su-25T can intercept their missiles with its vikhrs.
@@STRYKER1467 yeah FlaRakRad will have no chance against it because it can just fire 2 Missiles in a row and the Su can fire 16. I don´t get why FlaRakRad is still 11.7
The only difference is the ground radar
They should lower the price to 59.99, and lower the B.R....
OP as fck...
Cant wait for 11.3 games to be full of turms/2s38/bmp2m/ka50/su39 players…ground vehicles not over 10.0 btw
Me losing my last bit of hope for fun in top tier. Back to 8.0 - 9.0 Japan. It was fun at TT boys and girls.
I play Japan 8.3 unlocking top tier, but not buying any of them 😂
make it 5
justin the su39 gets the radar pod , so in the future they can give it r73/r77/r27er (if it performs bad). su25t can use those as su39 is export ver of su25tm (2000 variant of su25) while su25T is 80s iirc.
There's still a chance the USSR team will be mirrored on both sides of air RB matches even after all the shit we threw at Gaijin.
I don't have top tier tanks or planes, in past i was so exited to get there, but now i don't have any motivation. I just now that, slowly, top tier is turning into a complete unbalanced cancer zone, better stay at mid tier where you can still have some sort of fun.
Lol take my money
this plane is pure evil....
Eh it won't survive due to how OP AA is
a sr71