Truly. I’ll be honest I’ve had a slow growing friendship with a pieces (as a Libra) and although they used to work my nerve they’re now one of the friends I’m most thankful for.
I’m so sorry you’ve had to experience such a terrible person Mandii. Wheezy is right , it’s the person. The situation doesn’t matter , if someone doesn’t have integrity and is dishonest they will show you that no matter the situation. The rebellion will come no matter the boundary if they are not a good person to begin with.
I love that you are so transparent about your experience Mandi. At the end of the day that man was simply intimidated and jealous of you. Those are the scariest types to be with because they see you rising….know that they can’t reach you so they do everything to tear you down because of their frail ego. Btw we had fun at the Dallas show! Make sure y’all bring Phor to the pod!!!
You can have whatever your heart desires Mandii. There are folks out there who will accept your boundaries, respect them and respect you, but beyond that, value who you are. None of the things you are looking for out of life (sexually or otherwise) are too much, there is no such thing.
Mandi I have the same damn issue when it comes to ethical non monogamous relationships. It’s as if men can’t govern themselves or just be honest when we are trying to accept them for exactly who they are. The boundary is communication!! But people love toxicity and sneaky shit so much that they seem to prefer that. 🙄🙄
I think that the men in ethical non monogamous relationships REALLY want polygynous "relationships", rather than ENM. In fact, I don't think they want relationships at all, just sex and situationships, while the woman in their life stays monogamous to them.
It’s crazy how so many of us have a textbook experience with a narcissist & it forever changes the way we handle relationships. Scary but so eye opening
Shout out to Mandii for vulnerability and restraint from physically hurting folks. Dang, he's a CBAN/HAN for real. The audacity of it all. Good riddance.
This lifestyle is tough, no matter how much you discuss, have conversation and communicate. We as women can do "all" the things to keep it 100 and a 🥷 will find a way to step out. I hate it here but love it at the same time. May your heart finds peace and love that is open to you and your boundaries 😘
I think the “Questioning Non-monogamy” conversation is an important one because people make it seem like non-monogamous relationships are just this enlightened and evolved magic bullet relationship style. In reality, whatever issues you had with monogamous relationships either double or just shift to something else. I think in Mandii’s case it was “non-monogamy is cool within these guidelines” but at the end of the day just like a monogamous relationship it all comes down to does your partner respect those guidelines. No amount of open or closed relationships will allow you to avoid that fact.
I agree. It seemed as if they thought having a non-monogamous relationship was the key to avoiding being cheated and betrayed. The self-awareness and accountability in their convo was very honest and raw. I commend them for being open about it. No one really talks about the downside of having an open relationships.
Weezy hit it right on the head. I used to have TWO boyfriends and it was fun but there’s a point where the conflict between all parties is too much to bear. A part of me really loved ENM but I couldn’t be functional in it. Being in a monogamous relationship now, I realized that I was looking for something outside of myself or that relationship. It’s wild to be so satisfied by one person. I really can be happy with the simplicity. It feels so good to have one person down bad for you and vice versa, rather than dividing that affection between all these different partners. I was much like y’all thinking I could never be happy in that kind of structure, but love is freeing and whole when it’s with the right person
One of my fave convos of all time!Thank you both for being honest and vulnerable about questioning non monogamy from the perspective of sexually positive , open and empowered women. Being those things is never an open invitation for cheating , disrespect or to be treated like “whatever” bc “i thought you were cool.” It takes courage to try and do things that are considered out the norm to know what works for you and how to establish boundaries and parameters moving forward. I appreciate you ladies so much for the dialogue and this podcast!
Damn this episode really hit all the spots, very much insightful as fuck about the other sides of being in non traditional relationship dynamics. Love both of y’all’s perspective and honesty 💕💕
Mandii has literally just experienced what most woman have been dealing with forever. I really wanted different for Mandii because as an outsider the communication was there. This makes me sad for her!! Men dont understand, even though cuts heal, scars can last forever!
Mandii thank you for the vulnerability. I love how far you’ve come. Growth babygirl!! You’re strength is greater than you know! I got your back!! I was as heated as weezy when hearing all this!! Send you love and positive vibes! 💜💜💜
don't lose hope for the creative and free non-monogamous relationship you dream of because of one person's fuckshit. it took me some years but i found a super healthy and stable relationship that encourages me to explore my full self and it is worth the wait. like weezy said it helps a lot to go for people who have the same ideas to begin with instead of trying to convert someone monogamous-minded! sending love and luck to find your people
Love you girls! It depends on the man. If he has no integrity, no discipline and is insecure no matter the relationship, he will cheat and disrespect you. Love the healing journey both of you are on. Love how much your relationship with each other has grown and taking your time to understand each other now when you disagree. You two are glowing.
Mandii, NEVER forget how you feel right now. Because he’s going to spin the block once your heart is healed. People like him don’t change. He had ALL the freedom in the world and he just had to “rebel” against your trust. A real man can handle his woman asking for honesty. ❤ His “you’ll never meet someone who treats you like I do” is getting real close to emotional abuse.
I just wanna give Mandii a big ole hug. Dat man is so ughhhhhhh! He hid himself so well. I wish you all the peace you need as you recover from that relationship.
26:16 Bianca Lawson’s father is Richard Lawson who was married to Tina Knowles for the past 8 years. She was a real life step sister to Beyoncé and Solange. There was no need for Mandi to say alleged lol
45:14 YALL WENT AND GOT REAL DEEP ON ME. I DONT KNOW WHETHER TO PUT YOU TWO ON MY THERAPY COUCH, MASSAGE TABLE, OVER MY KNEE OR JUST LIGHT SAGE AND BRING IT IN FOR A VERY LONG GROUP HUG. BUT I LOVE YALL. 😥🤗😍😍😤😘🤗🖤🖤
GIVING SOMEONE CONSENT TO BE NON-MONOGAMOUS IS NOT CONFUSING OR CAPITULATION TO THAT PERSON’S NATURE IF YOU PRE-DEFINE THE TERMS OF NON-MONOGAMY. IT SOUNDS A LITLLE PERPLEXING BUT ITS ACTUALLY QUITE SIMPLE: THE ISSUE IS FULL DISCLOSURE NOT BEING FORTHCOMING. WHEN THAT NON-DISCLOSURE BECOMES A FACTOR THEN THERE’S A BREACH OF TRUST FOR WHICH YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE MAD AND UPSET. ITS NOT THE ACTIVITY THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM MORE SO THAN IT BEING THE LACK OF DISCLOSURE AND DISCUSSION, IN ORDER TO GET CONSENT TO DO SUCH AN ACTIVITY. AND THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM INHERENT IN ALL RELATIONSHIPS (MONOGAMOUS OR NON-MONOGAMOUS): THE PARAMETERS SET FORTH TO ESTABLISH THE RELATIONSHIP ARE INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY FOR TWO PEOPLE (OR GROUP OF PEOPLE) WANTING THE SAME EXPERIENCES. ULTIMATELY, YOU FIND OUT THAT THE OTHER WAS BEING DECEPTIVE. AT THE LEAST, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM. HOWEVER. THE RESL PROBLEM IS THAT NO COUPLE WANTS THE SANE THING THE SAME WAY…..EVER!
EVERY COUPLE OR GROUP FAILS. HOWEVER, IT IS WHAT YOU DO AFTER FAILURE THAT DETERMINES THE LONGEVITY OF SUCH A UNION IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THE AFTER-VALUE OF FAILURE LOOKS LIKE, THEN THE DEFAULT IS TO SEPARATE AND THE NATURAL INSTINCT IS TO CREATE DISTANCE. THE FEELINGS THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING)GOOD OR BAD) ARE TO ENSURE THAT THE DISTANCE CREATED IS NEVER BREACHED AGAIN. IF IT TAKES ANGER AND ANIMOSITY TO KEEP THAT DISTANCE, THEN THAT IS WHAT OUR MINDS TEND TO CREATE AND PERPETUATE. ITS A SELF DEFENSE MECHANISM AND, PERHAPS, RIGHTLY SO. GETTING BEYOND THAT POINT TO CREATE THE NEXT HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP IS UNDERSTANDING NONE OF US HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT DYNAMIC. WE ONLY HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT OUR MINDS PERCEIVE. 🖤🖤🤓👌
Mandi I went thru a betrayal with an ex partner and i really felt your pain with you when you were talking. The beauty of it all which you may not be able to feel now is that you will come out of this truly knowing yourself & what you will and won’t tolerate. One thing that’s stuck with me recently is that it’s not my responsibility to wonder whether someone will or won’t be faithful. It’s simply not. Your purpose is to just love & let yourself be loved. And anyone who won’t follow suit can be shown the door. It won’t be easy to learn this habit but you need to learn to trust others and most importantly trust yourself. Trying to analyze and calculate a formula to determine if a man will treat you right just won’t work. They simply will or won’t. And with time you’ll learn to trust yourself and your gut enough to weed out the “wonts” quickly and painlessly. Sending you so much love. 🩵
Most of us don't even know who this nigga is. It's crazy stan behavior for pod watchers to deliberately seek out your now ex and play you like that. Sickening! You absolutely didn't deserve that and he clearly has issues that he's projecting onto you! Do your healing and be whole again for the next man! ❤
@WhoreibleDecisions yall! Im an orlando native (born n raised at florida hospital on princeton now advent health) anywayssss i cant believe ive been following you two forever now. This podcast is the only pod that i know the schedule by heart , one of the few pods that ive seen start from scratch to where yall are now, its amazing and you two deserve the fuck outta what youve accomplished thus far lol lllland what the future holds. I love everything you guys do separately aswell. I love Weezy (pisces sis) and i Love you Mandi B - PEG THE STALLION. also i wonder what percentage of your viewers are an American Born Spaniard/PuertoRican PanSexual male because i am and ive been loyal to yall! Love you Two! ❤
I’m with my forever person, we have been together for almost 5 years. It’s endgame for us. But we only opened up our relationship for the first time last year and I don’t think I can go back to monogamy.I believe starting off monogamous is key. It shows that you are willing to commit and learn everything you can about them before you decide to share. I love the thrill of talking to new people and the feeling of freedom with non-monogamy. My partner hasn’t had the opportunities I’ve had just yet, But I actually get off on the idea of him with others - even romantically. And, despite the fact that I don’t like being intimate or sexual with people I’ve just met, in order to make sure my bf can enjoy the perks of this openness, I booked a trip to our first sex club soon. This all goes to say, I do think it is possible with the right person. I just think the right person is so rare that you need to begin closed before you open up ( IF you’re looking for something to last forever, that is). If they’re right for you they won’t have an issue waiting, and if you’re right for them, you won’t have an issue with it either. I think you need to have a very strong foundation of trust before you can open any relationship. And once that’s there with the love and everything else, you’re good to go.
Me and my sister watched There's Something about the Johnson's when it first came out that shit is wild lmao OAN, I'm so glad you were enlightened Mandii, I've dealt with similar still kind of because we're still cohabitating. There's no hope for a relationship with a narcissist. Thank both of you for going a little more in depth on ENM and your perspectives both in the past and now. I've been waiting for that conversation as I'm trying to navigate it all as well ❤
TBH having a man and maybe one or two female besties 👀 can be an option. Me and my guy friend are both bi and we always said if we got together (we have a marriage pack lol) that I could have a gf and he could have a bf
That’s an “Action Pack” on The Way y’all 2 both, had started the (intro) by just spilling The Tea like no other. I love y’all Ladies so, very much… ❤🔥❤🔥
I don't care what no one says about "oversexualizing" things. Some behavior is just not appropriate point blank. I have a god daughter who when she was younger she used to innocently hug me and wrap her legs around me or just sit on my lap with her legs open. I used to always correct it and explained to her why. If you just let things like that go who knows who else she could be doing that too with so many sick people out there and they could take advantage. You have to teach kids these things, its for their own safety.
Dealing with a narc is exhausting. They take absolutely no responsibility for their own actions. And then will get the new supply to act like their little flying monkeys to keep tabs on you. They are just weird AF and highly insecure. Mandii, leaving was the best thing you could do for yourself. He will NEVER be right. These type of individuals are damaged goods and will literally drive you crazy if you stay.
Can you edit the videos to have sections where you see the different topics that you’re talking about? Great convo but as a first time viewer, it would be super helpful to get better into your content ✨ hope the feedback is revived positively - thanks for a great and candid convo 🫶🏽
That's why I enjoy 🍿 seeing BTS clips. Seeing Beyonce at 9am practicing with the crew. She's a human doing the work she loves. She has good days and bad. We're just regular folk at the end of the day 😅 maybe not income/lifestyle wise but we have regular days and mundane moments.
The thing about the mom thing: My mother took care of me after I had a hysterectomy. I couldn't bend down, so after showers, she'd help me put on lotion in the hard to reach spaces. In those moments, it just felt like a mom helping her kid. I guess, I'm just really lucky that I do have a good relationship with my mother. I mean, it's not like I'm not gonna return the favor when she's pushing 90, and might need help then *shrugs*
My husband cheated, I tried suggesting we just have a open relationship we are separated and the streets love me 😩😂😭 but now he “found god” and wants monogamy. 😒 if u can cheat I want to too. Men selfish as fuck lol
1:01:13 Mandii. I'm sorry you had to experience that in your previous relationship. Per the advice from your friends, I disagree. I think you should be able to have your relationship anyway you would like it as long as it's communicated. From what you've told us, y'all had the communication. There could be other factors in what didn't keep it going longer. I don't think you should not get the relationship you want in your next relationship. It's honestly, up to you, and the next person. It's a case by case basis.
The episode was soo good, but I just kept focusing on weezy’s ring.. where did she get it, and if she wants to give it to me for my birthday.. thank you 😅
Damn this was a deep ass episode... watching this almost a month after it was posted and truly hope Mandii is in a better place. Considering the title of the episode I just wanted to say, don't think these are ENM issues. The whole point of ENM like y'all said is honesty and communication. The boundaries of the relationship, although non-traditional, were clear asfuck. It sounds like the person was just not a good partner... that would have been the case whether y'all were monogamous or not. If non-monogamy is truly what you want for yourself in the future, I wouldn't throw it out the window bcs of him. I obviously am just an outsider looking in, but from how it looks you have very little blame in this shit. Wish you well and I hope future partners have your best interests at heart instead of their own
57:44 Mandii, hopefully in the future, you keep your relationships private. This was a risk. You were speaking your POV on here but also speaking him up to the next person. Also, you don't have to keep them private because it's also your life. Just have to understand that this will always be a risk esp since there are people who want to be you and experience your partner(s).
I agree with you both people are going to do what they want and no matter how much your honest or communicate with them they still seem to get off on the secretness of cheating, it's not the actual act of the sea but the addition and excitement that they will or can get caught..for me I have been on both sides and feel as though I can't never win ..I would love to hear more talk on this subject and with one of your sea therapist guest
I think everyone is subconsciously, operating under the notion of, “nothing in life worth having comes easy.” I know how much some people don’t like Joe Rogan, but he had this professor of evolutionary behavior on, his name is Gad Saad, who explained this concept called Zahavian signaling. Basically the notion that in nature to obtain something (in context of the video which is on RUclips, specifically a mate) the process in which you obtain it has to be costly. Because if it’s not costly, anybody can get it. And if anybody can get it then, in my own words now, what can possibly make it special to us? But in regards to Mandii, it shouldn’t have to work like this, but you might have to compromise parts of yourself to obtain what you want. Your partner will have to give up things to be with you too. Mandii, a healthy lifelong male partner might cost you sexual relationships with women. It might cost you the idea of not having children. Albeit mixed race, our dating pool as black woman is already significantly low even if we do date outside our race thanks to the European standard. There’s a difference between standards and unbudging expectations. At the end of the day, I say don’t let anything you want cost you something healthy AND necessary to you though.
Mandii called Weezy her friend yall! I love the progress they’ve made. So happy for them
Ik I was gonna say the same thing! Love this for them 😂❤
Truly. I’ll be honest I’ve had a slow growing friendship with a pieces (as a Libra) and although they used to work my nerve they’re now one of the friends I’m most thankful for.
Minute mark? I missed this 😳 lol
@@ObservingtheMatrixno way you really believe in that shit
This really warms my heart too!
I’m so sorry you’ve had to experience such a terrible person Mandii.
Wheezy is right , it’s the person. The situation doesn’t matter , if someone doesn’t have integrity and is dishonest they will show you that no matter the situation. The rebellion will come no matter the boundary if they are not a good person to begin with.
Mandi , this betrayal and poor treatment from your ex will be one of the greatest learning opportunities. keep your head and heart high.
“not us agreeing on something and it’s the hands of a yt man” 😭😭😭 i can’t 10:28
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I love that you are so transparent about your experience Mandi. At the end of the day that man was simply intimidated and jealous of you.
Those are the scariest types to be with because they see you rising….know that they can’t reach you so they do everything to tear you down because of their frail ego.
Btw we had fun at the Dallas show! Make sure y’all bring Phor to the pod!!!
You can have whatever your heart desires Mandii. There are folks out there who will accept your boundaries, respect them and respect you, but beyond that, value who you are. None of the things you are looking for out of life (sexually or otherwise) are too much, there is no such thing.
Monogamy might feel safer, but a man who will cheat in an ENM dynamic will also cheat in a monogamous one.
exactly
Women cheat at a higher rate today than men…
How YOU know?!! #WEHUSSLE #KaliefBrowder
Mandii calls weezy her friend ❤❤❤ 3:58 I wanted to honestly cry - I didn’t know if we would ever get here
I'm such an insomniac I love knowing I can watch yall first thing around midnight! I just finished the last episode! love
Mandii sending much love. I really understand how you feel. Those fans who were sexing him are terrible people.
13 lbs is an accomplishment 🎉
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Mandi I have the same damn issue when it comes to ethical non monogamous relationships. It’s as if men can’t govern themselves or just be honest when we are trying to accept them for exactly who they are. The boundary is communication!! But people love toxicity and sneaky shit so much that they seem to prefer that. 🙄🙄
I think that the men in ethical non monogamous relationships REALLY want polygynous "relationships", rather than ENM.
In fact, I don't think they want relationships at all, just sex and situationships, while the woman in their life stays monogamous to them.
So damn true!!
I just wanted to hug Mandii because I know what that hurt feels like. Continue to heal and live your life to the fullest ❤.
It’s crazy how so many of us have a textbook experience with a narcissist & it forever changes the way we handle relationships. Scary but so eye opening
Shout out to Mandii for vulnerability and restraint from physically hurting folks. Dang, he's a CBAN/HAN for real. The audacity of it all. Good riddance.
This lifestyle is tough, no matter how much you discuss, have conversation and communicate. We as women can do "all" the things to keep it 100 and a 🥷 will find a way to step out. I hate it here but love it at the same time. May your heart finds peace and love that is open to you and your boundaries 😘
I think the “Questioning Non-monogamy” conversation is an important one because people make it seem like non-monogamous relationships are just this enlightened and evolved magic bullet relationship style. In reality, whatever issues you had with monogamous relationships either double or just shift to something else.
I think in Mandii’s case it was “non-monogamy is cool within these guidelines” but at the end of the day just like a monogamous relationship it all comes down to does your partner respect those guidelines. No amount of open or closed relationships will allow you to avoid that fact.
I agree. It seemed as if they thought having a non-monogamous relationship was the key to avoiding being cheated and betrayed. The self-awareness and accountability in their convo was very honest and raw. I commend them for being open about it. No one really talks about the downside of having an open relationships.
Mandii called Weezy her friend 😢 😢
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omg when
what's the time stamp?
I love the chemistry between you two.
Mandi I’m so proud of you
Weezy hit it right on the head. I used to have TWO boyfriends and it was fun but there’s a point where the conflict between all parties is too much to bear. A part of me really loved ENM but I couldn’t be functional in it. Being in a monogamous relationship now, I realized that I was looking for something outside of myself or that relationship. It’s wild to be so satisfied by one person. I really can be happy with the simplicity. It feels so good to have one person down bad for you and vice versa, rather than dividing that affection between all these different partners. I was much like y’all thinking I could never be happy in that kind of structure, but love is freeing and whole when it’s with the right person
I am a 40 year old man I believe in monogamous relationship and I don't believe in cheating on your mate
Big hugs Mandii. I was in the same place that you are in. It takes times, but you will heal. Big grandma sized hugs to you
One of my fave convos of all time!Thank you both for being honest and vulnerable about questioning non monogamy from the perspective of sexually positive , open and empowered women. Being those things is never an open invitation for cheating , disrespect or to be treated like “whatever” bc “i thought you were cool.” It takes courage to try and do things that are considered out the norm to know what works for you and how to establish boundaries and parameters moving forward. I appreciate you ladies so much for the dialogue and this podcast!
Damn this episode really hit all the spots, very much insightful as fuck about the other sides of being in non traditional relationship dynamics. Love both of y’all’s perspective and honesty 💕💕
Mandii has literally just experienced what most woman have been dealing with forever. I really wanted different for Mandii because as an outsider the communication was there. This makes me sad for her!! Men dont understand, even though cuts heal, scars can last forever!
Not Mandi doing the save the last dance 🩰😂
Bianca Lawson 😂
Mandii thank you for the vulnerability. I love how far you’ve come. Growth babygirl!! You’re strength is greater than you know! I got your back!! I was as heated as weezy when hearing all this!! Send you love and positive vibes! 💜💜💜
don't lose hope for the creative and free non-monogamous relationship you dream of because of one person's fuckshit. it took me some years but i found a super healthy and stable relationship that encourages me to explore my full self and it is worth the wait. like weezy said it helps a lot to go for people who have the same ideas to begin with instead of trying to convert someone monogamous-minded! sending love and luck to find your people
Love you girls! It depends on the man. If he has no integrity, no discipline and is insecure no matter the relationship, he will cheat and disrespect you. Love the healing journey both of you are on. Love how much your relationship with each other has grown and taking your time to understand each other now when you disagree. You two are glowing.
Mandii, NEVER forget how you feel right now. Because he’s going to spin the block once your heart is healed. People like him don’t change. He had ALL the freedom in the world and he just had to “rebel” against your trust. A real man can handle his woman asking for honesty. ❤ His “you’ll never meet someone who treats you like I do” is getting real close to emotional abuse.
Mandi , I hope you heal ❤
I’m sorry you had to experience a narcissists !
I love the show !
Mandii and I just found out he don’t work there no more yall 😂
Sad times 😂😂
Sure he dosen't 😏
Where is he 😭😭❗️
I love the conversation you guys have , I know now I’m not a lone & there are other women as open as I & have similar thoughts 👏🏾👏🏾❤
What’s the word like being gawked at?
Gawked 🗣️ 😂😂😂
I just wanna give Mandii a big ole hug. Dat man is so ughhhhhhh! He hid himself so well. I wish you all the peace you need as you recover from that relationship.
26:16 Bianca Lawson’s father is Richard Lawson who was married to Tina Knowles for the past 8 years. She was a real life step sister to Beyoncé and Solange. There was no need for Mandi to say alleged lol
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Such a great episode ! Loved the vulnerability ❤
45:14 YALL WENT AND GOT REAL DEEP ON ME. I DONT KNOW WHETHER TO PUT YOU TWO ON MY THERAPY COUCH, MASSAGE TABLE, OVER MY KNEE OR JUST LIGHT SAGE AND BRING IT IN FOR A VERY LONG GROUP HUG. BUT I LOVE YALL. 😥🤗😍😍😤😘🤗🖤🖤
GIVING SOMEONE CONSENT TO BE NON-MONOGAMOUS IS NOT CONFUSING OR CAPITULATION TO THAT PERSON’S NATURE IF YOU PRE-DEFINE THE TERMS OF NON-MONOGAMY. IT SOUNDS A LITLLE PERPLEXING BUT ITS ACTUALLY QUITE SIMPLE: THE ISSUE IS FULL DISCLOSURE NOT BEING FORTHCOMING. WHEN THAT NON-DISCLOSURE BECOMES A FACTOR THEN THERE’S A BREACH OF TRUST FOR WHICH YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE MAD AND UPSET.
ITS NOT THE ACTIVITY THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM MORE SO THAN IT BEING THE LACK OF DISCLOSURE AND DISCUSSION, IN ORDER TO GET CONSENT TO DO SUCH AN ACTIVITY. AND THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM INHERENT IN ALL RELATIONSHIPS (MONOGAMOUS OR NON-MONOGAMOUS): THE PARAMETERS SET FORTH TO ESTABLISH THE RELATIONSHIP ARE INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY FOR TWO PEOPLE (OR GROUP OF PEOPLE) WANTING THE SAME EXPERIENCES. ULTIMATELY, YOU FIND OUT THAT THE OTHER WAS BEING DECEPTIVE. AT THE LEAST, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM. HOWEVER. THE RESL PROBLEM IS THAT NO COUPLE WANTS THE SANE THING THE SAME WAY…..EVER!
EVERY COUPLE OR GROUP FAILS. HOWEVER, IT IS WHAT YOU DO AFTER FAILURE THAT DETERMINES THE LONGEVITY OF SUCH A UNION IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THE AFTER-VALUE OF FAILURE LOOKS LIKE, THEN THE DEFAULT IS TO SEPARATE AND THE NATURAL INSTINCT IS TO CREATE DISTANCE. THE FEELINGS THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING)GOOD OR BAD) ARE TO ENSURE THAT THE DISTANCE CREATED IS NEVER BREACHED AGAIN.
IF IT TAKES ANGER AND ANIMOSITY TO KEEP THAT DISTANCE, THEN THAT IS WHAT OUR MINDS TEND TO CREATE AND PERPETUATE. ITS A SELF DEFENSE MECHANISM AND, PERHAPS, RIGHTLY SO. GETTING BEYOND THAT POINT TO CREATE THE NEXT HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP IS UNDERSTANDING NONE OF US HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT DYNAMIC. WE ONLY HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT OUR MINDS PERCEIVE.
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This episode was so genuine and real. S/o to yall for your vulnerability… Y’all really are a 🔥🔥🔥 duo and the conversation just flows every time 🙌🏽
Really good episode ladies!! It was a steady flowing conversation that felt easy. 💞
I love you Mandi! Thank you for showing your strength and vulnerability
Mandi's expression when Wheezy was reading out the email!! 😂😂😂
I lovvvvve how well you guys are getting along❤ i can feel the vibessss
Gaslighting is never ok! That’s emotional abuse and I’m sorry you suffered that 🙏🏾
Loved this episode ❤️ good riddance to that man child, Mandii - you deserve so much better
13:05 I think it's because alot of women have said they don't want to be approached or bothered. So alot of guys don't know when to anymore.
I appreciate Mandy in this episode 👏🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫤
Mandi I went thru a betrayal with an ex partner and i really felt your pain with you when you were talking. The beauty of it all which you may not be able to feel now is that you will come out of this truly knowing yourself & what you will and won’t tolerate. One thing that’s stuck with me recently is that it’s not my responsibility to wonder whether someone will or won’t be faithful. It’s simply not. Your purpose is to just love & let yourself be loved. And anyone who won’t follow suit can be shown the door. It won’t be easy to learn this habit but you need to learn to trust others and most importantly trust yourself. Trying to analyze and calculate a formula to determine if a man will treat you right just won’t work. They simply will or won’t. And with time you’ll learn to trust yourself and your gut enough to weed out the “wonts” quickly and painlessly. Sending you so much love. 🩵
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Ladies and gentleman, this the reason why you don’t have an open relationship. l feel for Mandii, she for sure hurting.
Youre not wrong but it can work if theyre not doing the things mandi’s ex was. He was trash.
Excellent episode -- loved Mandii's vulnerability. Very relatable
Most of us don't even know who this nigga is. It's crazy stan behavior for pod watchers to deliberately seek out your now ex and play you like that. Sickening! You absolutely didn't deserve that and he clearly has issues that he's projecting onto you! Do your healing and be whole again for the next man! ❤
Loved this conversation♥️.
@WhoreibleDecisions yall! Im an orlando native (born n raised at florida hospital on princeton now advent health) anywayssss i cant believe ive been following you two forever now. This podcast is the only pod that i know the schedule by heart , one of the few pods that ive seen start from scratch to where yall are now, its amazing and you two deserve the fuck outta what youve accomplished thus far lol lllland what the future holds. I love everything you guys do separately aswell. I love Weezy (pisces sis) and i Love you Mandi B - PEG THE STALLION. also i wonder what percentage of your viewers are an American Born Spaniard/PuertoRican PanSexual male because i am and ive been loyal to yall! Love you Two! ❤
I just love y’all man. Great episode
I’m with my forever person, we have been together for almost 5 years. It’s endgame for us. But we only opened up our relationship for the first time last year and I don’t think I can go back to monogamy.I believe starting off monogamous is key. It shows that you are willing to commit and learn everything you can about them before you decide to share. I love the thrill of talking to new people and the feeling of freedom with non-monogamy. My partner hasn’t had the opportunities I’ve had just yet, But I actually get off on the idea of him with others - even romantically. And, despite the fact that I don’t like being intimate or sexual with people I’ve just met, in order to make sure my bf can enjoy the perks of this openness, I booked a trip to our first sex club soon. This all goes to say, I do think it is possible with the right person. I just think the right person is so rare that you need to begin closed before you open up ( IF you’re looking for something to last forever, that is). If they’re right for you they won’t have an issue waiting, and if you’re right for them, you won’t have an issue with it either. I think you need to have a very strong foundation of trust before you can open any relationship. And once that’s there with the love and everything else, you’re good to go.
Y’all came along way and I’m so proud of where y’all friendship is at . Y’all been getting along.❤
Me and my sister watched There's Something about the Johnson's when it first came out that shit is wild lmao
OAN, I'm so glad you were enlightened Mandii, I've dealt with similar still kind of because we're still cohabitating. There's no hope for a relationship with a narcissist.
Thank both of you for going a little more in depth on ENM and your perspectives both in the past and now. I've been waiting for that conversation as I'm trying to navigate it all as well ❤
Lol!!! I guessed the word Objectify before y'all did. Lol.. I'm here at work, yelling...Objectify, Objectify. 🤣🤣🤦🏾♀
Both you ladies look amazing! Good episode!
Mandi You deserve better
Weezy this outfit is life!! 😍😍
TBH having a man and maybe one or two female besties 👀 can be an option. Me and my guy friend are both bi and we always said if we got together (we have a marriage pack lol) that I could have a gf and he could have a bf
Y’all talked about the massages !
Idk how y’all were able to walk off the studio, with a the names y’all dropped 😵💫🤣🤣
All ❤
That’s an “Action Pack” on The Way y’all 2 both, had started the (intro) by just spilling The Tea like no other.
I love y’all Ladies so, very much… ❤🔥❤🔥
I don't care what no one says about "oversexualizing" things. Some behavior is just not appropriate point blank. I have a god daughter who when she was younger she used to innocently hug me and wrap her legs around me or just sit on my lap with her legs open. I used to always correct it and explained to her why. If you just let things like that go who knows who else she could be doing that too with so many sick people out there and they could take advantage. You have to teach kids these things, its for their own safety.
Dealing with a narc is exhausting. They take absolutely no responsibility for their own actions. And then will get the new supply to act like their little flying monkeys to keep tabs on you. They are just weird AF and highly insecure. Mandii, leaving was the best thing you could do for yourself. He will NEVER be right. These type of individuals are damaged goods and will literally drive you crazy if you stay.
Can you edit the videos to have sections where you see the different topics that you’re talking about? Great convo but as a first time viewer, it would be super helpful to get better into your content ✨ hope the feedback is revived positively - thanks for a great and candid convo 🫶🏽
Loved this episode 😢❤
That's why I enjoy 🍿 seeing BTS clips. Seeing Beyonce at 9am practicing with the crew. She's a human doing the work she loves. She has good days and bad. We're just regular folk at the end of the day 😅 maybe not income/lifestyle wise but we have regular days and mundane moments.
The thing about the mom thing: My mother took care of me after I had a hysterectomy. I couldn't bend down, so after showers, she'd help me put on lotion in the hard to reach spaces. In those moments, it just felt like a mom helping her kid. I guess, I'm just really lucky that I do have a good relationship with my mother. I mean, it's not like I'm not gonna return the favor when she's pushing 90, and might need help then *shrugs*
Love y'all podcast😍😍
😂😂😂 Yo, when Mandi said “Derrikk”!
loved this episode and love y'all.
Lol y’all did talk about that massage place/man on an episode before.
Same thing Mandy. Euphoria is like watching children. It’s weird. I couldn’t do it.
Felt the same lol
My husband cheated, I tried suggesting we just have a open relationship we are separated and the streets love me 😩😂😭 but now he “found god” and wants monogamy. 😒 if u can cheat I want to too. Men selfish as fuck lol
I liivvveeeee for solo episodes
its the reality of the social environments when its based on sex ... no one should be surprised, im waiting for his podcast
Wheezy handle it! Them girls need a beat down
I don’t think it was EVER in God’s plan for us to be with our best seggs partner. I’m glad you’re free Mandii
Damn Mandii I feel for you. I hope you heal soon 🤍🤍
1:01:13 Mandii. I'm sorry you had to experience that in your previous relationship. Per the advice from your friends, I disagree. I think you should be able to have your relationship anyway you would like it as long as it's communicated. From what you've told us, y'all had the communication. There could be other factors in what didn't keep it going longer. I don't think you should not get the relationship you want in your next relationship. It's honestly, up to you, and the next person. It's a case by case basis.
Geelah looks so good in braids 😂😂😂😂
The episode was soo good, but I just kept focusing on weezy’s ring.. where did she get it, and if she wants to give it to me for my birthday.. thank you 😅
sorry Mandii that you had that experience with your ex.
y do i enjoy mandii on this more than on see the thing is?
I hope Seattle turns up for y’all, went to Neptunes for the Rory & Mal podcast and the crowd was TOO SOFT for some of the jokes 😅
I love you ladies
23:15 just watched that again recently. Bianca Lawson (technically Beyonce's stepsister) is the one who played Nikki, Derrick's ex gf
Damn this was a deep ass episode... watching this almost a month after it was posted and truly hope Mandii is in a better place. Considering the title of the episode I just wanted to say, don't think these are ENM issues. The whole point of ENM like y'all said is honesty and communication. The boundaries of the relationship, although non-traditional, were clear asfuck. It sounds like the person was just not a good partner... that would have been the case whether y'all were monogamous or not. If non-monogamy is truly what you want for yourself in the future, I wouldn't throw it out the window bcs of him. I obviously am just an outsider looking in, but from how it looks you have very little blame in this shit. Wish you well and I hope future partners have your best interests at heart instead of their own
57:44 Mandii, hopefully in the future, you keep your relationships private. This was a risk. You were speaking your POV on here but also speaking him up to the next person. Also, you don't have to keep them private because it's also your life. Just have to understand that this will always be a risk esp since there are people who want to be you and experience your partner(s).
I'm here screaming " Objectify objectify😂😅❤❤
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Omg iv been waiting to meet you guys in Vegas. I work at Mandalay Bay! Please hit me up next time! I’m a bartender for celebrity chefs. 💜
I agree with you both people are going to do what they want and no matter how much your honest or communicate with them they still seem to get off on the secretness of cheating, it's not the actual act of the sea but the addition and excitement that they will or can get caught..for me I have been on both sides and feel as though I can't never win ..I would love to hear more talk on this subject and with one of your sea therapist guest
Mandii, I’m so sorry. You weren’t dating a healthy man. He’s got some deep deep seated problems. He obviously needs help and has delusions.
The Strange Thing About the Johnsons... OMG Wheezy!!! I need to watch some cartoons or something now because WOW. I was NOT ready for that.
Yessssssss girls I will show you a good time if pull up! It will be nice weather still don’t trip!!
I think everyone is subconsciously, operating under the notion of, “nothing in life worth having comes easy.”
I know how much some people don’t like Joe Rogan, but he had this professor of evolutionary behavior on, his name is Gad Saad, who explained this concept called Zahavian signaling. Basically the notion that in nature to obtain something (in context of the video which is on RUclips, specifically a mate) the process in which you obtain it has to be costly. Because if it’s not costly, anybody can get it. And if anybody can get it then, in my own words now, what can possibly make it special to us?
But in regards to Mandii, it shouldn’t have to work like this, but you might have to compromise parts of yourself to obtain what you want. Your partner will have to give up things to be with you too.
Mandii, a healthy lifelong male partner might cost you sexual relationships with women. It might cost you the idea of not having children.
Albeit mixed race, our dating pool as black woman is already significantly low even if we do date outside our race thanks to the European standard. There’s a difference between standards and unbudging expectations. At the end of the day, I say don’t let anything you want cost you something healthy AND necessary to you though.