yes they stopped my winter payment and made it impossible to gain pension credit unless you came by boat...i have a damaged lung and just got over my 2nd bout of pneumonia... so if i pop my clogs then i want the world to know starmer did it....
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
You should qualify for pension credit if you don't work or don't have savings, which I assume you don't. Go through age concern, they will fight on your behalf.
Behave yourself. If a pensioner has more than £16, 000 then they cease to qualify for pension credit as they're expected to live off their savings. Once below 16 K, but more preferably 10 K, pensioners can re apply. Easier said than done though. If you haven't got 16 K or 10, 000 pounds for the lower limit then ask, demand even, to know why you aren't being awarded pension credit. If you have a private pension, get state pension and have savings in excess of 16 then drop the sense of entitlement. There are many who are in a worse state than you.
Somehow I doubt it. We have an oil rad and used it in our outside utility room. Yes it worked well, but the room was small and it took ages to get the room up to temp. And it consumed electric like nobody's business. So we replaced it with a diesel heater. More efficient, much faster to heat, more economical. You can't compare a whole gas heating system to one oil filled radiator in one room. If you ran your entire water rad system to heat the house and then compared it with oil filled radiators in every room to heat the house, I think you would find your electric bill eye watering. That would be a fair comparison. And yes, I too lost my winter fuel allowance. Bar stewards!!
@@bas6628 It isn't rocket science. Take a generic oil filled radiator. Most have a couple of settings 1kw per hour or 2 kw per hour. Simple maths will tell you they are much more expensive to run and heat up a house than a gas fired central heating system.
I used one years ago, when I was living in a flat that had old storage heaters. I never used the storage heaters: terrible idea! I only had one, and used to leave it in the bedroom, so I could be warm coming out of the shower. Then we would wheel it into the living room. Worked a treat. Now, I use one in the garage workshop when the weather makes it difficult to spend any time pottering while you freeze. I'd always recommend having one on standby, just in case the heating goes on the blink.
My gas boiler broke down last February and was out of action for 5 days. I took refuge in the 35 cubic metre sitting room with an oil filled radiator for heating. My daily fuel bills for gas, electricity, standing charges +VAT were normally about £3.75 per day. During that 5 days the costs averaged about £6.00 per day. The 1 metre, type 22, twin panel, gas central heating radiator in the same room at the 84 pence per cubic metre tariff I'm paying today only costs about £1 a day to run ( morning to evening). I experiment a lot and worked out that at that price for gas it costs about 50p per lineal metre of single panel radiator (60cm high) to run gas central heating per day [morning to evening]. By the way, for those who don't know it, to find the price of a cubic metre of gas, multiply the cost of a Kwh or unit by 11. That gives a close approximation.
Same experience here but in March for 8 days when it was -6 - Motherboard blew, bringing forward the planned changeout of boiler for the summer - Electric bill skyrocketed, kWh recorded for the month the highest for at least 7 years... Handy to have for an emergency all the same.
I have worked for social housing in the flats some have electric heating and their bill they complain about are massive and they are still cold ,this is telling me something
I got cheap fan heaters for if the boiler packed up and a watering can in the shower for the water its enough to get wet wash and rinse off just be very careful
Speaking from the otherside of Dawlish. I put the heating on for a few hours late evening then I turn it off and use an electric oil radiator in my bedroom with a thermostat which just keeps the chill of the bedroom. The cost of gas for running the central heating quickly adds up to a staggering amount.
For the same amount of energy electricity is four times the price of gas. However, before Thatcher screwed it all up, gas was ten times cheaper than electricity.
@@robertandrew5768 It's not bullshit, energy in Britain now the most expensive in the whole world! Fact-check the cost of it yourself before attacking others.
I guess you get very cheap gas ? My house is all electric, gas is not available here . My cost is 10 hours at 20p/kWh and 25p at the other 14 hours . Google says gas equivalents at 6.3p/kWh. So on the face of it that might be true ? However you hav to factor in the service cost ⁴year and boiler replacement/ upgrade every decade or so ? So not such a big difference. However it is true Thatcher was a trickster for sure !
I used an oil filled radiator when my central heating wasn't working properly. Used it in one room and it was cheaper than running the central heating, according to the smart meter. The rest of the house was chilly! Concerned about pipes potentially freezing, I use the central heating in the evening and one hour in the moring. I live in an old house where the humidity level is high downstairs, so I use a desiccant dehumidifier (no hepa filter) and this makes the room feel less cold. As long as I am active during the day time and wear thermals I can stay warm. Other than this I have thought about getting a heated throw.
Big hot water bottle dont want you to know this, get a big bottle of liquid clothes detergent from lidl the own brand one, decant it. Rinse it. Put a bit of cold water in, boil a kettle put that in. Put it on your lap or in your bed, rest it on your lap with thin blanket, it radiates heat for 5 or 6 hours, can put it under your legs in bed or on top too, don't rest all your weight on it though as it squeezes trickles of water out. It's very effective. Remarkably so.
I prefer a covered hot water bottle. Mine still has heat in it when I wake in the morning. I put one underneath my cats covers at one end which helps her as she is older. I live in an old baltic 240 year old cottage in 🏴. The central heating is a memory now. 9-14°C is my normal through the day 5/6 months of winter. The yearly standing charge from Scottish Power from January 1st is now £400. It breaks my heart. I can't believe i have to pay that each year which basically stops me using the gas & electric. If it wasn't a private let I lived in i would have the meters taken out and use a different light & heat source. The state pension only stretches so far.
@@margaretblack8538oh margaret, I feel your pain I feel your shame, but you're not to blame 🙏🏻😔 Sounds like you know what you're doing, despite the discomfort, keep going 👍🏻
I have no mains gas in my small one bedroom house. During the day I sit in my living room with a 2kw oil free Dimplex radiater, though I only use 1kw setting. This costs approximately 24-25p per hour. I use it for 7 hours . I also have a heated throw, approximately 150w, when I’m sitting down. In the evening I switch off my electric heater and use a calor gas heater, which costs about 50 pounds per gas bottle. This lasts three weeks. My electric bill in the winter is about £115 per month. Obviously that includes cooking, washing machine, tumble dryer, kettles, shower etc as well as the electric heater. I only heat the upstairs bedroom for a short time when I’m showering as that’s where my shower is situated. My downstairs toilet just has a heated towel rail and is seldom switched on. I’m 77 and I just get by with this amount of heating in my tiny house.
@@MargaretBassett-uf1fi thanks! I couldn’t do without my tumble dryer. It’s a condenser type and doesn’t use up much electricity as I’ve worked it out. It’s used twice a week for an hour each time. I’ve got a couple of oil filled radiators but prefer the oil free one as it heats up quicker, though it also cools down quickly . It’s a Dimplex Cadiz. Re dehumidifier-I’ve got an Ebac one and put it on mainly when the calor gas heater is on, since gas heaters produce a lot of condensation. That way I can keep the humidity in the room to under 50%. Using all these electrical appliances gives me a winter bill as I said of about £115, and a summer months bill of about 50-60 pounds per month. Luckily it’s manageable for me financially. It does help that my house is tiny! I have a small garden for hanging out clothes in the summer (when we occasionally get good weather here in Scotland!)
@@daveclark3834 The sad thing is, there is no one any better to replace them. We have had fourteen years of tory mis-management and could end up with Farage as PM.
Flush your house/flat first thing by opening the windows for 5/10 minutes. You're not "letting the heat out" you're letting high humidity air out. The dry air that comes in has a lot less moisture in it and will heat up *much* quicker than blindly heating the warm & damp air you already had. Humidity is probably more important than temperature for comfort. It also solves many damp problems!
WE are all dreading the bills apart from the MPs and fat cats . The Winter fuel allowance was brought in for times like these it's despicable and indefensible to take the allowance away and will simply end up in more hospital admissions which will cost thousands 😢
@susieadams1553 I'll tell you who won't be: the people in hotels, the reason our taxes have been increased. We're paying for their health and prosperity, so we're too weak to fight.
I have learnt a lot and saved a lot of money watching this plumber's excellent videos. There are a lot of variables and I have compared the two over a good few years. One thing that I did not see taken into account is when you use oil for your CH and you have open vent system especially, the CH will also heat the immersion which is a cost you would have to figure in if you run everything off electric. I am nearly grand a year better off with oil ch than i was with using 100 percent oil fired radiators . I spend now 1000 -1500 annually on oil - I could add on 500 p/a for unforseen and maintenance costs thats 2000 p/a approx. When I had just oil fired rads, the electric bill costs just for heating the rads I worked out to be 2000 to 2500 annually including heating hot water via an immersion swich and I had the heaters on timers as much as possible. I like the heat the oil fired radiators give off but as long as oil prices remain reasonably affordable if you can get the OCH to heat your immersion tank you will not be able to save money using the electric plug in radiators and its not worth living in a house where there are rooms you don't want to go in because they are too cold. The plug in rads use 2 kwph and this is also a lot of demand on the sockets. I wouldn't feel safe having more than one on maximum two if the second one was in a different circuit. Can't speak for gas but its probably even cheaper depending on where you live. Using a combination of small blower heaters and oil heating rads is also a way to heat yourself more efficiently but not sure how much this saves (comparing an electric blower heater to an electric oil fired radiator) since they use the same energy at 2kwph.
We have oil fired wet system in a three bed detached bungalow. I keep it set to 16 degrees from 8am to 8pm with a window just open. The whole bungalow is warm around 19 .i also have a piv fan that recovers any heat in the attic space.The humidity is around 40% . Our bill for oil is £360 a year (500 liters). I have experimenred with heating to 21 for a few hours then turning it off, heating on room etc.... keeping the humidity down is the key. Damp air at 21 doesn't feel the same as warm air at 19.
I use my central heating on timer in tge morning and in the evening. To make sure every room in tge house is warmed, pipes are warmed etc. I run it on low so it doesn't cost too much. Through the day if I'm working at home I'll use my oil rad to warm my livingroom up and it's very effective. I've been doing this now for 3 months and have easily saved over £150 and not had to use as much gas. I think the best way is a combination of central heating and oil rad. It's been a godsend during this cold snap.
The cheapest way if you're mostly staying in one room is to get a Heated Throw, basically a big (electric) blanket that you can put on your couch and you'll be lovely and warm for about 6p an hour as they are around 100w, the throws cost about £35 from Argos.
If you only use a few rooms during the day the oil filled radiators are a convenient option for maintaining a comfortable ambient temperature. Also, these heaters never seem to break down. One big cost associated with central heating is related to the oil/gas boiler - ie, annual servicing, repairs and replacement. Also, wet radiators have associated costs such as cleaning out and eventual replacement.
Long ago as a young consulting engineer we designed an old people's home with wet underfloor heating at about 18 deg C and small electric heaters to top up the heating or adjust it to what they wanted. At the time, low surface temp rads were limited and pricey, not to mention huge, so this provided a simple solution that gave the oldies control over their immediate environments and protected them from high surface temperatures as we used simple warm air convectors where the element was suspended in the casing. As I recall the electric heater was about 350W only.
An efficient wet central heating system will be much cheaper to run than the equivalent set-up of electric oil radiators across the house. But in the depths of winter, what works for me (convenience / comfort wise) is to run my wet central heating system across the whole house for just 1 hour three times a day, but also to run an electric oil radiator (with a good timer or thermostat) in a small bedroom converted for use as a second living room (with comfortable armchair, small folding table for eating and TV).
We have a large house and we have our central heating set to 15°C to keep the bills down, the heating comes on for 2 hrs in the morning and for 5 hrs in the evening this keeps the house warm but in really cold weather we use Delongi oil filled radiators that heat up quickly and can heat up large rooms to comfortable temps.
Cold at 17c? During the day I only put the heating on when it gets to 13c or when my fingers are too cold to press keys on my keyboard. In the evenings the heating comes on for a few hours and is set to 18c.
Bad for you! Even workplaces are supposed to have heat around 16 degrees celcius or above and that is for people doing physcial work. some offices are iceboxes and they skimp on heating.
Something I have discovered, is that by putting my radiators on inside walls in the house, and removing them from any positioned on an outside wall or under a window, the house heats up quicker, and the house is much warmer. I discovered this when I lived in a flat and the plumber fitted all the radiators on the inside walls, placing them just inside the door way inside wall. I said to him should they not be put under the windows, he said no, ''having them where I have placed them, means that the pipe runs are much less, and why would you want to heat up a cold wall''. I found that he was correct, the flat was always hot, and the cost of running the boiler was much less, the boiler fitted was a Vailliant.
@@dereton33 That is exactly what I thought, but I was proved wrong, from the flat, I moved to a detached house on the coast, with a new microbore system, all radiators were either under windows or on outside walls, in winter the house was never warm, even running the system 24/7. So ditched the microbore and put in 15mm and 22mm and 28mm from the boiler, with all radiators moved to internal walls. The house was never cold in winter after that.
@@dereton33wasn't this to do with old draughty windows. I also moved mine to internal walls with exposed 15mm pipe work. It has made a big difference. Solar gain and heating the thermal mass and with a PIV fan running all the time means I leave the heating on 8-8 at 16 degrees to achieve a warm 19 in my main living area. £360 a year oil bill. Plus about 300mm of insulation.
@@johncowley8882 funny you should mention this as in was thinking the same , my bedroom rad is on inside wall and room can get warm but living room one is below window and I need to put the fire on as well to heat up , my thinking is heat goes up and heats the wall window sill d\g window , not the room , my brother said to add a second rad , but I'm sure that would cost more but may keep the place warm ,
Ive got two oil heaters i set them at a temperature and they come on and then off when its warmer i can put one or two setting on theres one very small one thay can go under a bed and keep the bed warm ,
I am 78 years old and live alone in an all electric flat. never had any kind of central heating in my life (very unhealthy ) First off, it is damp air that is the most dangerous , cold damp air very bad. So I have a Pillar fan in each room on low to keep the air circulating and dry. then a panel electric heater in each room and half a doz.of those small 1200 w space heaters dotted about the flat. I keep the pillar fans ticking away on lowest setting and use the electric heaters as needed for comfort . my hot water is an electic hot water cylinder heated by electric immersion heater permanently on economy 7 . I am never cold although I have CKD so feel it more these days and in fact find myself turning heaters off because of getting to warm. at present I am running at about £3 per day. Never ever take a bath ( ridiculous habit ) I take a shower once a week , but then I am retired . But first before anything , rap up warm , I am now going to have a cup of tea and a biscuit maybe two !
Stopped using gas central heating 4 years ago. Now I use 1 or 2 (2 only when it’s freezing outside. One in kitchen, one in living room) 1960’s little bedroom size paraffin heaters. Costs around £2.50 each per day of around 14 hours burn time.. I sit at +22 degrees….
I dont think there is any comparison the two heating systems are two different beasts the wet system is for whole house heat or can be used for just one room whereas the electric one is really for just heating one room, I think it is down to how you want to heat your house
I live in 3 bed detached with full central heating. I’m often on my own so rather than heat the whole house up I use an electric oil radiator to heat the small room I’m working in. In the evening when I’m using the rest of the house I let it heat up with the gas central heating and of course turn off the oil heater. It seems like the best solution for me. I also have solar panels so if the sun is out in the winter I probably don’t take a big penalty on the electric bill.
With this harsh cold snap now, I’ve got a 3 bed detached home which I have garages on both sides of the the large living room, I’ve up rated the rads to doubles but it’s still a bit chilly, now I’m thinking on the cheap is there a paint that can reflect heat, I really haven’t looked at this, I always thought putting extra 100mm boards around the living room which can be costly and a pain sometimes, just because I have garage on both sides…
We don't have gas where I live, so I use heating oil and a Wallstar boiler for central heating and hot water. However, although I switch on the central heating during the day, for nighttimes I use an oil-filled radiator in my bedroom. I'm only heating one room for 8 hours, so it's not expensive once it gets up to temperature and the thermostat kicks in.
@@philgoff7563 I did read ( from a reliable source) that the heat created from one KW will be the same regardless of type or make of heater. As gas is less than a quarter the price of gas. It seems logical that gas wins. The only slight downside, I can see, is that with gasfires (which I use) some of the heat goes directly up the chimney.
the best way is 16c thermostat as boiler and then use electric personal heating (electric cushion/gillet/back and shoulder wrap) and a blanket if you want to go further for when you're sitting. Basically electric blanket.
@@Circadianic If you give details eg do you live in an apartment or detached someone will tell you. The difference between the two is like a venn diagram thats why you won't get a definitive answer. Broadly speaking Gas central heating that heats your hot water tank/immersion is always cheaper. IMO if you owant it, you can if strapped for cash and live in apartment use electric heaters on timers and manage to spend similar but you have to live frugally to make it work otherwise Gas/ Oil Central heating wins again! Edited , the people who use electric blankets and throws and this sort of thing will save the most money (heating the body and not the whole building).
My husband and I have spent the 20 years of our married life living in the country….we did the math and it was cheaper to run dragon de longhi heaters on timers in every room than buy oil, run and replace boilers and oil tanks etc … our neighbours saw the bills and copied us, wall mounting their radiators for aesthetics…as prices have risen we have used our wood burner more over the last few years but can’t sing the praises of the stress free nature of not having a boiler etc enough for those of you who can’t access gas
Heated blanket cosy _and_ portable I have wet rads (scarf and woolly hats) but my hands still cold _until_ I cut ends off _socks_ to put over my wrists #toasty
These are great little heaters I have 3 of them, BUT, since the cost of elect went through the roof, I hardly use them, I only keep them as back up now in case our (oil fired) central heating breaks down. One 2kw heater may be okay to run after midnight at 'cheap rate', if you want to stay up late to say watch TV in a small room, I wouldn't recommend much more use than that. I'm an ex electrician, retired. But they are great as backup/or an alternative heat source IMHO!
I have been looking at what the Japanese do. Their houses generally are totally uninsulated as they have to deal with humid conditions in the summer. They seem to have very good clothing with multiple layers but use tables with electric heaters in them that have a warm quilt around the side which they sit under. It’s called a kotatsu table. Also, they have air to air heat pumps that double up as air-conditioning in the summer. They must be getting something right because their life expectancy is in the 90s.
@@jennyomalley7634 of all players it was not the British that blew up the pipeline, its not our supply - its more for central Europe like Germany. Wasn't realistically Russia either, they could just turn it off at the tap and made a fortune from it. Its actually rather inconvenient who was likely behind it should you consider recent information obtained by respected Western publications. Polish authorities already sent out a few arrest warrants for a handful of visitor "diving instructors" who rented a boat that was tested for contraband needed to damage the pipeline
Even after having the radiators on all day yesterday, my living room was 7 degrees centigrade this morning. It only ever gets up to 16 if I'm lucky at the end of the day.
Just adjust your individual radiators thermostats so the non used rooms are set lower, e.g. 18, then set your lounge to be warmer. That way your central heating is primarily losing heat via your lounge and other rooms will get heat only when they need. As for pipes these are internal to your home so any heat loss is going into the property.
We tend to just heat downstairs since the heat eventually goes through ceilings., we shut off heating an hour before going to bed the heat downstairs keeps the upstairs at a reasonable temperature till morning. great savings made since we spend most of the time downstairs during day and early evenings. I would suggest also at the current situation about power cuts, therefore no central heating it is always wise to have a backup system to keep warm. older people born in 50,s through to 70,s will cope, but younger generations would not have a clue what to do.
I have my central heating set at 17c, keeps the house warm [3 bed 1970s semi 7 radiators] 1.4 units of gas per 24hrs [£3] the living room I now have a multifuel stove, once that gets the room warm [gets up to 30c 21x12ft] open doors and let the heat circulate, only need the heating on when 5c or less
They work well. People who live in vans swear by them and they are much cheaper than conventional heating. However safety is everything and the potential hazards are obvious for sensible users. If diesel heaters were used widely there would bound to be tragedies. The cost savings are very attractive and I think the Government would ban them outright if they became more popular just to prevent any deaths before they might happen.
Good quality diesel heaters are a common occurence among the narrowboat community . A lot of cheap imports are available and some may be questionable safety wise. A professionally installed marine diesel heater usually works well in that environment.
When my gas boiler broke i got a load of electric oil heaters and liked the control and cheap to replace so put them in my next home along with a electric water heater just feeds two taps kitchen and bathroom and also fitted a electric shower. All seems good so far. Electric water heater was very cheap, friend has had same make heater for 10 years.
Hi Paul, we’re thinking of doing the same as our boiler has broken too. Could I ask the name of the water heater? I’ve looked for one for a while, but not decided yet.
Interesting, it might be worth me getting an oil radiator for my office, as I work from home, so heating the whole house is a bit unnecessary. Currently I just keep all of the radiators set to max and the smart thermostat at a set temperature.
They're great for under a desk or just general use. They warm up a small room well and hold their heat for a while so you don't need it on all the time. They have heat settings and thermostat settings so all in all I would recommend them over fan or halogen heaters for personal/general use.
Agreed. I work from home and have an electric oil rad in my office. I just turn on the GCH in the evening when I’m using the rest of the house and to get the bedrooms cosy. Otherwise heating the whole house all the time is waste of money. -Well that’s what I think anyway.
It doesn't take much working out. Typically electricity is about 4 times more expensive than gas per Kwh, for me elec 22p and gas 6p. If the oil filled radiator was 100% efficient running at 1 Kw for 10 hours would cost £2.20. Even if the gas system was only 50% efficient it would only cost £1.20 for the same 10Kw used (10 x 6p = 60p x 50% = £1.20) QED You must compare like with like
How do you compare like with like if you were using that 10kW to heat a single area? Would it be a case of shutting off all the other radiators in the property to like for like replicate what the oil filled rad is doing?
@@xxnonstopdancingxx Regrettably it is not that easy to do the experiment practically. Yes you would need to use the same room with only that radiator turned on and heat the room from say 18 to 20 deg (measuring with a thermometer) and see how much gas was used, bearing in mind that the gas boilers are not designed to just heat one radiator and would be very inefficient doing that. You would then have to carry out the same process with the oil filled radiator in the same room and using the same temperatures (18-20 deg) and see how much electricity was used. You would get an idea but there are too many variables to be precise, like the size of your radiator, the water flow and return temperatures. Sorry can't be more possitive.
I have no central heating, no fire, nothing. I used 2 oil radiators in Dec for 10 hrs a day on the lowest possible setting and my electricity bill was £335. The room temp never went above 12°
I have several electric oil rads to supplement an ancient Potterton gas boiler heated system. I had one electric oil rad from a known brand fail on me. Wouldn’t heat up. Never did manage to fix it. In that instance lost money due to the original outlay for what was a fairly new rad.
I'm all electric, i used to have storage heaters, and only ever used one to take the chill off. I've got new fangled electric heaters, fitted by my landlord, but I've no idea how to work it, and it doesn't store heat. Flatly refuse to put my heating on. I will not give the greedy energy companies any more of my money. I shower, have an immersion heater on econ 7, cooker and washing machine, no tv. My electric is still £70+ a month. Would be less but the govt stuck on vat, and i'm not giving them any more of my money either. Hot water bottle in bed, and extra blankets, just like the old days.
Electric powered heating is a great backup for when your gas fails but boy you will have to pay big money to use it even if they reduced the cost of electricity to £0.05 per kWh it would still be expensive.
All that is going scewwiffy with Octopus energy tariff's and pushing up gas prices to pay for Net Zero . We just ramp down the house temp to 16 degrees but ramp up the living room to 20 , so we save that way, using the wet system. Going to the bathroom is a bit of challenge mind and one has to prep it if one wants a bath.
@@Rachel.hydeparkHeating engineers say heat the whole building to a moderate temp 16-18 degree, have a window slightly open, damp air makes you feel cold. My bill is £360 a year for oil fired wet heating a three bed bungalow 8am to 8pm. Don't believe utility companies or Martin Lewis sponsored sites.
@@edwardcullen3251 18 is more than warm enough in the winter, its actually the average home temp in the UK. In the 60s the average was 12c. It normal and healthy to be a bit colder in the winter, boosts the immune system and less recycled air slows the spread of bugs.
@@dereton33 No, it's not because I like, it's because it is the correct spelling and word. It's because people like you don't care about grammar and spelling and correctness, the standards are dropping to gutter level.
My gas is way cheaper than electric - I tend to just leave rooms not in use closed and have the lounge at 21c and hall rad 19c and a towel rail in the bathroom - an hour before bed opening the bedroom door - works for me - it was -2c outdoors today
Yes all our thermo rad valves set at 3 except bathroom which is fully on(was told to leave one rad fully on to relieve pressure on system)have adjusted boiler flow temp down (it was at 75 deg when installed,think its at 55 now and rads still get hot.We have a hive movable room stat so our coldest room joined to kitchen with patio doors and roof lantern (always around 2 deg colder than adjoining room)set the stat in there around 17 and let it run during the day(always off during the night) .Find if we let it go off and temp drops alot it takes alot to get it back up there again so it must use alot more gas to do that.Although 17 does not seem that hot because we have lots of insulation especially in the room i mentioned which is a new exten.and has up to date ins.materials even in the current outside temps it is warm.
Yeah but to fill a room the rads are sized accordingly ...if you just wanna have it on and pretend you're warm then that's his thing ...but these things leak And use 2kw of power and not cheap ...better getting the warm air electric heaters these are 1kw or 2kw and warm up instantly and £20 max I'd say anyway -10 nxt few days wrap up.
If you buy a Split AC /Heater, you will get 4 KWh Warmth Out of 1 KWh Elektricity ! This works fine to the temperatures of 5 ° C .At lower temperatures, the effiency decreases to about 2 to 1 !
A convector heater uses only slightly more electricity than an oil filled radiator but heats the room up 10 times faster. I have one of that central heating room thermostats that maintains a constant temperature rather than heating and then turning off. Once up to temp the boiler only comes on for about 30 seconds every 20 minutes, the radiators are less than luke warm yet the house is a constant 19c.
Just plain wrong that we are all wearing hats and coats indoors. Tipsters on television telling us about heating the person rather than the room. Just plain wrong ...
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nothing is cheaper than the other thing when it comes to electric and gas your heating the size of the room it takes the same amount of energy no matter what you use to heat that size of room.
Yes one radiator on and the rest of the home is full of mold this year now the winter fuel allowance has gone if the cold don't see us off the mold will before the wall paper peels off the walls due to being cold and moisture collecting on outside walls this is the reality of what the Labour Government has caused this year.
Take a look at these tickers on the stock market. These are the base wholesale rates for UK gas and electricity. UBL1! is electricity, GWM1! is gas. As you can see from both of those, UK wholesale gas and electricity returned to pre-pandemic normal levels 23 months ago. French government fixed their prices down, UK government fixed them up. We are all being charged over double rates because of corruption between a captured energy regulator and collusion between UK Gov and the energy suppliers.
Become a tortoise 🐢, ideal hibernation temperature is 3 to 10 deg/c (no heating required ) but seriously you wouldn't think the uk was 6th richest nation in the world, someone is benefitting extremely well out of the ridiculous energy prices Should've done what France did and built lots of nuclear power plants in the 1970's
Well of course its cheaper, It shuts off the heating to the rest of the house! Heating one room with a gas boiler would be cheaper than this electric heater.
in an insulated room they only run for a bit before turning off, thats the point of the oil, it acts like a thermal battery and turns on just to top it off. Very efficient compared to heating a whole house with a boiler
The sick and disabled also lost Warm Home Discount under the Tories (or WEF/CCP) and Senior "Citizens" (should be sovereign people), lost WFA under Labour (also WEF/CCP). I'm starting to notice a Neo Maoist trend that both parties are told to advocate 💔💔🤬🤬
@dereton33 Yes indeed, they even get a couple of helpers and priority at my GP surgery. Meanwhile the local council states there's none in my home town (the big hotels are full of them), besides our council offices are empty, theyre all "working" from home, so how would they know how many illegal immigrants (not refugees) are here🤔🙄😲
I watched this video expecting to find out whether it is cheaper to run an oil filled radiator or gas heating. After all, that's what it says on the title. I am none the wiser.
In short, to heat yourself up in a smallish room, oil heater with a click on, click off thermostat set appropriately, and logically closing the door and windows of the room it's in, has got to be cheaper than running gas boilers for the same amount of time to heat the whole house. Depends what you pay for your electric and gas I suppose and how much heat your home holds and loses. Impossible for a one size fits all answer to be honest. Different people like and require different levels of heat also. The elderly. People out of hospital. People with certain conditions and so on.
Still dint know what boiler cost anyone? I have tested oilfill radiators will heat a large room for 7 pound a day on 24.7 so 50 a week to heat 1 large room. I have since tested a chinese diesil heater and is saving me 600 to a thousand a winter 6 months run it on heating oil abot 6 p a hour when bought in bulk cist 70 pound plus some bits drill etc is the best on the market now 21 pound a week on 24.7.cost of runjing boiler anyone?
Boilers use gas…but don’t forget the electric for the thermostat, pump, boiler internals etc etc and maintenance costs too…. Gas boiler…heat pump, electric rads and heaters…no thanks..don’t wish to sell a kidney this winter to pay to keep warm…I like my good old reliable paraffin…
yes they stopped my winter payment and made it impossible to gain pension credit unless you came by boat...i have a damaged lung and just got over my 2nd bout of pneumonia... so if i pop my clogs then i want the world to know starmer did it....
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You should qualify for pension credit if you don't work or don't have savings, which I assume you don't. Go through age concern, they will fight on your behalf.
So which is cheaper the oil filled radiator or central heating???
Behave yourself. If a pensioner has more than £16, 000 then they cease to qualify for pension credit as they're expected to live off their savings. Once below 16 K, but more preferably 10 K, pensioners can re apply. Easier said than done though. If you haven't got 16 K or 10, 000 pounds for the lower limit then ask, demand even, to know why you aren't being awarded pension credit. If you have a private pension, get state pension and have savings in excess of 16 then drop the sense of entitlement. There are many who are in a worse state than you.
Should have saved
It really shouldn't be like this should it when these companies are making billions on us. I used to only put my coat on when I went outside.
Welcome to the new age.
@@dereton33 The new age of unfettered corporate greed.
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That's the price of living in a capitalist society.
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Somehow I doubt it. We have an oil rad and used it in our outside utility room. Yes it worked well, but the room was small and it took ages to get the room up to temp. And it consumed electric like nobody's business. So we replaced it with a diesel heater. More efficient, much faster to heat, more economical. You can't compare a whole gas heating system to one oil filled radiator in one room. If you ran your entire water rad system to heat the house and then compared it with oil filled radiators in every room to heat the house, I think you would find your electric bill eye watering. That would be a fair comparison. And yes, I too lost my winter fuel allowance. Bar stewards!!
Thanks Jamie.
So oil filled radiators are more expensive than central heating...I'm confused
@@bas6628 It isn't rocket science. Take a generic oil filled radiator. Most have a couple of settings 1kw per hour or 2 kw per hour. Simple maths will tell you they are much more expensive to run and heat up a house than a gas fired central heating system.
I get my wife to ring her mum on FaceTime, the hot air generated is more than enough to heat my 78 bed mansion
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@@calibremanmy house is so cold I stand in the garden to keep warm
If it gets cold we sit around a candle, if it gets really cold we light it!
Very flash ha ha.
I used one years ago, when I was living in a flat that had old storage heaters. I never used the storage heaters: terrible idea! I only had one, and used to leave it in the bedroom, so I could be warm coming out of the shower. Then we would wheel it into the living room.
Worked a treat.
Now, I use one in the garage workshop when the weather makes it difficult to spend any time pottering while you freeze.
I'd always recommend having one on standby, just in case the heating goes on the blink.
My gas boiler broke down last February and was out of action for 5 days. I took refuge in the 35 cubic metre sitting room with an oil filled radiator for heating. My daily fuel bills for gas, electricity, standing charges +VAT were normally about £3.75 per day. During that 5 days the costs averaged about £6.00 per day. The 1 metre, type 22, twin panel, gas central heating radiator in the same room at the 84 pence per cubic metre tariff I'm paying today only costs about £1 a day to run ( morning to evening). I experiment a lot and worked out that at that price for gas it costs about 50p per lineal metre of single panel radiator (60cm high) to run gas central heating per day [morning to evening]. By the way, for those who don't know it, to find the price of a cubic metre of gas, multiply the cost of a Kwh or unit by 11. That gives a close approximation.
Same experience here but in March for 8 days when it was -6 - Motherboard blew, bringing forward the planned changeout of boiler for the summer - Electric bill skyrocketed, kWh recorded for the month the highest for at least 7 years... Handy to have for an emergency all the same.
So... The electric oil filled rads are very expensive compared to gas central heating rads? I have a couple but will keep them for emergencies only.
I have worked for social housing in the flats some have electric heating and their bill they complain about are massive and they are still cold ,this is telling me something
I got cheap fan heaters for if the boiler packed up and a watering can in the shower for the water its enough to get wet wash and rinse off just be very careful
So oil filled electric heaters are more expensive than central heating
Speaking from the otherside of Dawlish. I put the heating on for a few hours late evening then I turn it off and use an electric oil radiator in my bedroom with a thermostat which just keeps the chill of the bedroom. The cost of gas for running the central heating quickly adds up to a staggering amount.
Thanks for sharing
So it's cheaper to use an oil filled radiators than central heating
For the same amount of energy electricity is four times the price of gas. However, before Thatcher screwed it all up, gas was ten times cheaper than electricity.
Bullshit !
@@robertandrew5768 It's not bullshit, energy in Britain now the most expensive in the whole world! Fact-check the cost of it yourself before attacking others.
I guess you get very cheap gas ? My house is all electric, gas is not available here . My cost is 10 hours at 20p/kWh and 25p at the other 14 hours .
Google says gas equivalents at 6.3p/kWh. So on the face of it that might be true ? However you hav to factor in the service cost ⁴year and boiler replacement/ upgrade every decade or so ? So not such a big difference. However it is true Thatcher was a trickster for sure !
I remember it well... £10...lasted at least a fortnight (gas /leccy)... Before thatchers helping hand 😡... Now.. It's a tenners worth of candles 😡❤️🇬🇧
@@robduncan599 shop around , your economy 10 is expensive. I get 7p a kWh for 6 hours with Octopus
I used an oil filled radiator when my central heating wasn't working properly. Used it in one room and it was cheaper than running the central heating, according to the smart meter. The rest of the house was chilly! Concerned about pipes potentially freezing, I use the central heating in the evening and one hour in the moring. I live in an old house where the humidity level is high downstairs, so I use a desiccant dehumidifier (no hepa filter) and this makes the room feel less cold. As long as I am active during the day time and wear thermals I can stay warm. Other than this I have thought about getting a heated throw.
Big hot water bottle dont want you to know this, get a big bottle of liquid clothes detergent from lidl the own brand one, decant it. Rinse it. Put a bit of cold water in, boil a kettle put that in. Put it on your lap or in your bed, rest it on your lap with thin blanket, it radiates heat for 5 or 6 hours, can put it under your legs in bed or on top too, don't rest all your weight on it though as it squeezes trickles of water out. It's very effective. Remarkably so.
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I prefer a covered hot water bottle. Mine still has heat in it when I wake in the morning. I put one underneath my cats covers at one end which helps her as she is older. I live in an old baltic 240 year old cottage in 🏴. The central heating is a memory now. 9-14°C is my normal through the day 5/6 months of winter. The yearly standing charge from Scottish Power from January 1st is now £400. It breaks my heart. I can't believe i have to pay that each year which basically stops me using the gas & electric. If it wasn't a private let I lived in i would have the meters taken out and use a different light & heat source. The state pension only stretches so far.
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I have no mains gas in my small one bedroom house. During the day I sit in my living room with a 2kw oil free Dimplex radiater, though I only use 1kw setting. This costs approximately 24-25p per hour. I use it for 7 hours . I also have a heated throw, approximately 150w, when I’m sitting down. In the evening I switch off my electric heater and use a calor gas heater, which costs about 50 pounds per gas bottle. This lasts three weeks. My electric bill in the winter is about £115 per month. Obviously that includes cooking, washing machine, tumble dryer, kettles, shower etc as well as the electric heater. I only heat the upstairs bedroom for a short time when I’m showering as that’s where my shower is situated. My downstairs toilet just has a heated towel rail and is seldom switched on. I’m 77 and I just get by with this amount of heating in my tiny house.
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Sell the tumble dryer and get a de humidifier.same with the Dimplex, get an oil filled radiator.
@@MargaretBassett-uf1fi thanks! I couldn’t do without my tumble dryer. It’s a condenser type and doesn’t use up much electricity as I’ve worked it out. It’s used twice a week for an hour each time. I’ve got a couple of oil filled radiators but prefer the oil free one as it heats up quicker, though it also cools down quickly . It’s a Dimplex Cadiz. Re dehumidifier-I’ve got an Ebac one and put it on mainly when the calor gas heater is on, since gas heaters produce a lot of condensation. That way I can keep the humidity in the room to under 50%. Using all these electrical appliances gives me a winter bill as I said of about £115, and a summer months bill of about 50-60 pounds per month. Luckily it’s manageable for me financially. It does help that my house is tiny! I have a small garden for hanging out clothes in the summer (when we occasionally get good weather here in Scotland!)
My friend is an MP I spend the cold days in his second home, it's toasty warm. 😆😁😂...
Good idea Paul.
You shouldn't make fun of it . PEOPLE are bloody freezing in their own homes after working all their lives .
@@daveclark3834 As a seventy year old pensioner who has lost winter fuel payment I beg to differ. If you didn't laugh you would cry.
@@paulbird3235 I am too cold to laugh sorry . I don't find anything funny about this Labour government
@@daveclark3834 The sad thing is, there is no one any better to replace them. We have had fourteen years of tory mis-management and could end up with Farage as PM.
Im dreading the next few days of predicted minus 7 degrees weather and how much its going to cost.
Flush your house/flat first thing by opening the windows for 5/10 minutes.
You're not "letting the heat out" you're letting high humidity air out. The dry air that comes in has a lot less moisture in it and will heat up *much* quicker than blindly heating the warm & damp air you already had. Humidity is probably more important than temperature for comfort. It also solves many damp problems!
@georgeprout42 I know this, buddy, but thanks for the advice.
@@georgeprout42A downside is that dry air isn't too good for the lungs.
WE are all dreading the bills apart from the MPs and fat cats . The Winter fuel allowance was brought in for times like these it's despicable and indefensible to take the allowance away and will simply end up in more hospital admissions which will cost thousands 😢
@susieadams1553 I'll tell you who won't be: the people in hotels, the reason our taxes have been increased. We're paying for their health and prosperity, so we're too weak to fight.
I have learnt a lot and saved a lot of money watching this plumber's excellent videos. There are a lot of variables and I have compared the two over a good few years. One thing that I did not see taken into account is when you use oil for your CH and you have open vent system especially, the CH will also heat the immersion which is a cost you would have to figure in if you run everything off electric.
I am nearly grand a year better off with oil ch than i was with using 100 percent oil fired radiators . I spend now 1000 -1500 annually on oil - I could add on 500 p/a for unforseen and maintenance costs thats 2000 p/a approx.
When I had just oil fired rads, the electric bill costs just for heating the rads I worked out to be 2000 to 2500 annually including heating hot water via an immersion swich and I had the heaters on timers as much as possible. I like the heat the oil fired radiators give off but as long as oil prices remain reasonably affordable if you can get the OCH to heat your immersion tank you will not be able to save money using the electric plug in radiators and its not worth living in a house where there are rooms you don't want to go in because they are too cold. The plug in rads use 2 kwph and this is also a lot of demand on the sockets. I wouldn't feel safe having more than one on maximum two if the second one was in a different circuit. Can't speak for gas but its probably even cheaper depending on where you live. Using a combination of small blower heaters and oil heating rads is also a way to heat yourself more efficiently but not sure how much this saves (comparing an electric blower heater to an electric oil fired radiator) since they use the same energy at 2kwph.
Thanks for all your info, much appreciated.
Heated blanket on sette. Works well.
Good idea Ben.
We have oil fired wet system in a three bed detached bungalow. I keep it set to 16 degrees from 8am to 8pm with a window just open. The whole bungalow is warm around 19 .i also have a piv fan that recovers any heat in the attic space.The humidity is around 40% . Our bill for oil is £360 a year (500 liters). I have experimenred with heating to 21 for a few hours then turning it off, heating on room etc.... keeping the humidity down is the key. Damp air at 21 doesn't feel the same as warm air at 19.
Thanks for your comments.
I use my central heating on timer in tge morning and in the evening. To make sure every room in tge house is warmed, pipes are warmed etc. I run it on low so it doesn't cost too much. Through the day if I'm working at home I'll use my oil rad to warm my livingroom up and it's very effective. I've been doing this now for 3 months and have easily saved over £150 and not had to use as much gas. I think the best way is a combination of central heating and oil rad. It's been a godsend during this cold snap.
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The cheapest way if you're mostly staying in one room is to get a Heated Throw, basically a big (electric) blanket that you can put on your couch and you'll be lovely and warm for about 6p an hour as they are around 100w, the throws cost about £35 from Argos.
They are amazing!
Thanks for the advice.
If you only use a few rooms during the day the oil filled radiators are a convenient option for maintaining a comfortable ambient temperature. Also, these heaters never seem to break down. One big cost associated with central heating is related to the oil/gas boiler - ie, annual servicing, repairs and replacement. Also, wet radiators have associated costs such as cleaning out and eventual replacement.
Cheers Brian.
Long ago as a young consulting engineer we designed an old people's home with wet underfloor heating at about 18 deg C and small electric heaters to top up the heating or adjust it to what they wanted. At the time, low surface temp rads were limited and pricey, not to mention huge, so this provided a simple solution that gave the oldies control over their immediate environments and protected them from high surface temperatures as we used simple warm air convectors where the element was suspended in the casing. As I recall the electric heater was about 350W only.
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An efficient wet central heating system will be much cheaper to run than the equivalent set-up of electric oil radiators across the house. But in the depths of winter, what works for me (convenience / comfort wise) is to run my wet central heating system across the whole house for just 1 hour three times a day, but also to run an electric oil radiator (with a good timer or thermostat) in a small bedroom converted for use as a second living room (with comfortable armchair, small folding table for eating and TV).
Thanks Bob.
We have a large house and we have our central heating set to 15°C to keep the bills down, the heating comes on for 2 hrs in the morning and for 5 hrs in the evening this keeps the house warm but in really cold weather we use Delongi oil filled radiators that heat up quickly and can heat up large rooms to comfortable temps.
Thanks Chimpy.
Cold at 17c? During the day I only put the heating on when it gets to 13c or when my fingers are too cold to press keys on my keyboard. In the evenings the heating comes on for a few hours and is set to 18c.
Brave man.
Bad for you! Even workplaces are supposed to have heat around 16 degrees celcius or above and that is for people doing physcial work. some offices are iceboxes and they skimp on heating.
Something I have discovered, is that by putting my radiators on inside walls in the house, and removing them from any positioned on an outside wall or under a window, the house heats up quicker, and the house is much warmer. I discovered this when I lived in a flat and the plumber fitted all the radiators on the inside walls, placing them just inside the door way inside wall. I said to him should they not be put under the windows, he said no, ''having them where I have placed them, means that the pipe runs are much less, and why would you want to heat up a cold wall''. I found that he was correct, the flat was always hot, and the cost of running the boiler was much less, the boiler fitted was a Vailliant.
This is the worse place to put rads. There is a reason they work better under windows.
@@dereton33 That is exactly what I thought, but I was proved wrong, from the flat, I moved to a detached house on the coast, with a new microbore system, all radiators were either under windows or on outside walls, in winter the house was never warm, even running the system 24/7. So ditched the microbore and put in 15mm and 22mm and 28mm from the boiler, with all radiators moved to internal walls. The house was never cold in winter after that.
@@dereton33wasn't this to do with old draughty windows. I also moved mine to internal walls with exposed 15mm pipe work. It has made a big difference. Solar gain and heating the thermal mass and with a PIV fan running all the time means I leave the heating on 8-8 at 16 degrees to achieve a warm 19 in my main living area. £360 a year oil bill. Plus about 300mm of insulation.
@@johncowley8882I've done the same and do agree with you. Plus I exposed the pipework.
@@johncowley8882 funny you should mention this as in was thinking the same , my bedroom rad is on inside wall and room can get warm but living room one is below window and I need to put the fire on as well to heat up , my thinking is heat goes up and heats the wall window sill d\g window , not the room , my brother said to add a second rad , but I'm sure that would cost more but may keep the place warm ,
Put some heavy curtains up and close them early it makes a big difference
Thanks Anna.
Ive got two oil heaters i set them at a temperature and they come on and then off when its warmer i can put one or two setting on theres one very small one thay can go under a bed and keep the bed warm ,
Thanks Howard.
I am 78 years old and live alone in an all electric flat. never had any kind of central heating in my life (very unhealthy ) First off, it is damp air that is the most dangerous , cold damp air very bad. So I have a Pillar fan in each room on low to keep the air circulating and dry. then a panel electric heater in each room and half a doz.of those small 1200 w space heaters dotted about the flat. I keep the pillar fans ticking away on lowest setting and use the electric heaters as needed for comfort . my hot water is an electic hot water cylinder heated by electric immersion heater permanently on economy 7 . I am never cold although I have CKD so feel it more these days and in fact find myself turning heaters off because of getting to warm. at present I am running at about £3 per day. Never ever take a bath ( ridiculous habit ) I take a shower once a week , but then I am retired . But first before anything , rap up warm , I am now going to have a cup of tea and a biscuit maybe two !
Thanks Arthur.
Stopped using gas central heating 4 years ago. Now I use 1 or 2 (2 only when it’s freezing outside. One in kitchen, one in living room) 1960’s little bedroom size paraffin heaters. Costs around £2.50 each per day of around 14 hours burn time.. I sit at +22 degrees….
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On a safety note , get a carbon monoxide alarm if you use a paraffin heater.
I dont think there is any comparison the two heating systems are two different beasts the wet system is for whole house heat or can be used for just one room whereas the electric one is really for just heating one room, I think it is down to how you want to heat your house
Thanks Mike.
I live in 3 bed detached with full central heating. I’m often on my own so rather than heat the whole house up I use an electric oil radiator to heat the small room I’m working in. In the evening when I’m using the rest of the house I let it heat up with the gas central heating and of course turn off the oil heater. It seems like the best solution for me. I also have solar panels so if the sun is out in the winter I probably don’t take a big penalty on the electric bill.
Thanks Dave.
With this harsh cold snap now, I’ve got a 3 bed detached home which I have garages on both sides of the the large living room,
I’ve up rated the rads to doubles but it’s still a bit chilly, now I’m thinking on the cheap is there a paint that can reflect heat, I really haven’t looked at this, I always thought putting extra 100mm boards around the living room which can be costly and a pain sometimes, just because I have garage on both sides…
Yes a right problem.
We don't have gas where I live, so I use heating oil and a Wallstar boiler for central heating and hot water. However, although I switch on the central heating during the day, for nighttimes I use an oil-filled radiator in my bedroom. I'm only heating one room for 8 hours, so it's not expensive once it gets up to temperature and the thermostat kicks in.
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Oil rads are great for heating a small room! Once the oil is hot, it stays hot for a long time.
No cheaper than any other electric heater though.
@@philgoff7563 I did read ( from a reliable source) that the heat created from one KW will be the same regardless of type or make of heater. As gas is less than a quarter the price of gas. It seems logical that gas wins. The only slight downside, I can see, is that with gasfires (which I use) some of the heat goes directly up the chimney.
Great point!
the best way is 16c thermostat as boiler and then use electric personal heating (electric cushion/gillet/back and shoulder wrap) and a blanket if you want to go further for when you're sitting. Basically electric blanket.
Thanks.
Good presentation, but at the end of the day we all need a clear answer! Which is cheaper? Need to be decisive one or the other!
I've left that to my comments below as there is no clear answer just what ever is right for you. That was the point of this video.
@ I wasn’t criticising you! I’m just a black and white character! Been criticised for it many times in my life! Guess I’ll never change
@@Circadianic If you give details eg do you live in an apartment or detached someone will tell you. The difference between the two is like a venn diagram thats why you won't get a definitive answer. Broadly speaking Gas central heating that heats your hot water tank/immersion is always cheaper. IMO if you owant it, you can if strapped for cash and live in apartment use electric heaters on timers and manage to spend similar but you have to live frugally to make it work otherwise Gas/ Oil Central heating wins again! Edited , the people who use electric blankets and throws and this sort of thing will save the most money (heating the body and not the whole building).
My husband and I have spent the 20 years of our married life living in the country….we did the math and it was cheaper to run dragon de longhi heaters on timers in every room than buy oil, run and replace boilers and oil tanks etc … our neighbours saw the bills and copied us, wall mounting their radiators for aesthetics…as prices have risen we have used our wood burner more over the last few years but can’t sing the praises of the stress free nature of not having a boiler etc enough for those of you who can’t access gas
Shame logs have become pricy now.
Heated blanket cosy _and_ portable I have wet rads (scarf and woolly hats) but my hands still cold _until_ I cut ends off _socks_ to put over my wrists #toasty
Keep warm.
Old age pensioners can get a free electric blanket from.octopus energy , i have one and it is so warm
500W under my chair and extra clothing works for me without gas and doors closed. Don't know if it's cheaper, but my gut says it is.
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How much was your oil radiator and what make or model is it , thank you , take care .
a purmati. cost £95.00
@@dereton33 thanks ,
These are great little heaters I have 3 of them, BUT, since the cost of elect went through the roof, I hardly use them, I only keep them as back up now in case our (oil fired) central heating breaks down. One 2kw heater may be okay to run after midnight at 'cheap rate', if you want to stay up late to say watch TV in a small room, I wouldn't recommend much more use than that. I'm an ex electrician, retired. But they are great as backup/or an alternative heat source IMHO!
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I have been looking at what the Japanese do.
Their houses generally are totally uninsulated as they have to deal with humid conditions in the summer. They seem to have very good clothing with multiple layers but use tables with electric heaters in them that have a warm quilt around the side which they sit under. It’s called a kotatsu table. Also, they have air to air heat pumps that double up as air-conditioning in the summer.
They must be getting something right because their life expectancy is in the 90s.
Thanks kev.
New to your channel and i hooked,thankyou sir for your help
Thanks for the sub! Cheers Stewart.
Did you lose your winter fuel payment?
Maybe if the British had NOT blown-up the fuel pipe-line , then the heating costs wouldn't be so expensive.
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@@jennyomalley7634 of all players it was not the British that blew up the pipeline, its not our supply - its more for central Europe like Germany. Wasn't realistically Russia either, they could just turn it off at the tap and made a fortune from it. Its actually rather inconvenient who was likely behind it should you consider recent information obtained by respected Western publications. Polish authorities already sent out a few arrest warrants for a handful of visitor "diving instructors" who rented a boat that was tested for contraband needed to damage the pipeline
@@jennyomalley7634 it's so expensive because of ridiculous net zero!
@@jennyomalley7634I thought it was the yanks. 😂
Even after having the radiators on all day yesterday, my living room was 7 degrees centigrade this morning. It only ever gets up to 16 if I'm lucky at the end of the day.
Sorry to hear that.
Just adjust your individual radiators thermostats so the non used rooms are set lower, e.g. 18, then set your lounge to be warmer. That way your central heating is primarily losing heat via your lounge and other rooms will get heat only when they need. As for pipes these are internal to your home so any heat loss is going into the property.
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We tend to just heat downstairs since the heat eventually goes through ceilings., we shut off heating an hour before going to bed the heat downstairs keeps the upstairs at a reasonable temperature till morning.
great savings made since we spend most of the time downstairs during day and early evenings.
I would suggest also at the current situation about power cuts, therefore no central heating it is always wise to have a backup system to keep warm.
older people born in 50,s through to 70,s will cope, but younger generations would not have a clue what to do.
Just ask your gran or pa.
I have my central heating set at 17c, keeps the house warm [3 bed 1970s semi 7 radiators] 1.4 units of gas per 24hrs [£3] the living room I now have a multifuel stove, once that gets the room warm [gets up to 30c 21x12ft] open doors and let the heat circulate, only need the heating on when 5c or less
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Another saving is to have beans on toast 3 or 4 times a week & in the cold evenings sit there and light your farts! 💨💥😂
POW!!!
@dereton33 😂😂😂
Chinese diesel heater even cheaper if you can fit it into your house safely.
They work well. People who live in vans swear by them and they are much cheaper than conventional heating. However safety is everything and the potential hazards are obvious for sensible users. If diesel heaters were used widely there would bound to be tragedies. The cost savings are very attractive and I think the Government would ban them outright if they became more popular just to prevent any deaths before they might happen.
health and safety.
Good quality diesel heaters are a common occurence among the narrowboat community . A lot of cheap imports are available and some may be questionable safety wise. A professionally installed marine diesel heater usually works well in that environment.
Gas?
Installation cost and servicing, repair costs?
swings and rounabouts.
When my gas boiler broke i got a load of electric oil heaters and liked the control and cheap to replace so put them in my next home along with a electric water heater just feeds two taps kitchen and bathroom and also fitted a electric shower. All seems good so far. Electric water heater was very cheap, friend has had same make heater for 10 years.
Thanks Paul.
Hi Paul, we’re thinking of doing the same as our boiler has broken too. Could I ask the name of the water heater? I’ve looked for one for a while, but not decided yet.
@@felicitytaylor4633 Hyco make was about £180 plus fitting they come with different capacity tank i got smallest. sorry for delay been off line.
@ no worries. Thanks so much for the info, I’ll look it up.
Interesting, it might be worth me getting an oil radiator for my office, as I work from home, so heating the whole house is a bit unnecessary. Currently I just keep all of the radiators set to max and the smart thermostat at a set temperature.
They're great for under a desk or just general use. They warm up a small room well and hold their heat for a while so you don't need it on all the time. They have heat settings and thermostat settings so all in all I would recommend them over fan or halogen heaters for personal/general use.
a modern electric blanket is king of cheap heating when it comes to solitary heating
If it's unnecessary to heat the whole house, you could turn off/down the other radiators and just use the smart thermostat in the room you work in.
Agreed. I work from home and have an electric oil rad in my office. I just turn on the GCH in the evening when I’m using the rest of the house and to get the bedrooms cosy. Otherwise heating the whole house all the time is waste of money. -Well that’s what I think anyway.
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It doesn't take much working out. Typically electricity is about 4 times more expensive than gas per Kwh, for me elec 22p and gas 6p. If the oil filled radiator was 100% efficient running at 1 Kw for 10 hours would cost £2.20. Even if the gas system was only 50% efficient it would only cost £1.20 for the same 10Kw used (10 x 6p = 60p x 50% = £1.20) QED You must compare like with like
Thanks Pete.
How do you compare like with like if you were using that 10kW to heat a single area? Would it be a case of shutting off all the other radiators in the property to like for like replicate what the oil filled rad is doing?
@@xxnonstopdancingxx Regrettably it is not that easy to do the experiment practically. Yes you would need to use the same room with only that radiator turned on and heat the room from say 18 to 20 deg (measuring with a thermometer) and see how much gas was used, bearing in mind that the gas boilers are not designed to just heat one radiator and would be very inefficient doing that. You would then have to carry out the same process with the oil filled radiator in the same room and using the same temperatures (18-20 deg) and see how much electricity was used. You would get an idea but there are too many variables to be precise, like the size of your radiator, the water flow and return temperatures. Sorry can't be more possitive.
I have no central heating, no fire, nothing. I used 2 oil radiators in Dec for 10 hrs a day on the lowest possible setting and my electricity bill was £335. The room temp never went above 12°
Sorry to hear that.
It's a real challenge to stay healthy in a cold home.
Sure is.
I have several electric oil rads to supplement an ancient Potterton gas boiler heated system. I had one electric oil rad from a known brand fail on me. Wouldn’t heat up. Never did manage to fix it. In that instance lost money due to the original outlay for what was a fairly new rad.
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I use a small electric blanket in a sleeping bag that uses 12-35W.
Great idea.
I'm all electric, i used to have storage heaters, and only ever used one to take the chill off. I've got new fangled electric heaters, fitted by my landlord, but I've no idea how to work it, and it doesn't store heat. Flatly refuse to put my heating on. I will not give the greedy energy companies any more of my money. I shower, have an immersion heater on econ 7, cooker and washing machine, no tv. My electric is still £70+ a month. Would be less but the govt stuck on vat, and i'm not giving them any more of my money either. Hot water bottle in bed, and extra blankets, just like the old days.
Well done Julie.
Electric powered heating is a great backup for when your gas fails but boy you will have to pay big money to use it even if they reduced the cost of electricity to £0.05 per kWh it would still be expensive.
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All that is going scewwiffy with Octopus energy tariff's and pushing up gas prices to pay for Net Zero . We just ramp down the house temp to 16 degrees but ramp up the living room to 20 , so we save that way, using the wet system. Going to the bathroom is a bit of challenge mind and one has to prep it if one wants a bath.
A bath. Mine is just for the spiders to use ha ha.
@@dereton33 They are good at trapping spiders , i even have Robins waiting for me to throw them out
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Have a shower.
@@jablot5054 or just a wet flannel.
In the future when all these windmills supposedly make electricity cheaper?
No, don't fall for all their climate/zero nonesense, it's all a scam, they want us poor, preferably dead.
A fallacy.
If you have heating on but only one rad on it will overheat and require a £400 new heat exchanger
It shouldn't do. Even the gas companies and Martin Lewis say to only have one turned at a time.
@@Rachel.hydeparkHeating engineers say heat the whole building to a moderate temp 16-18 degree, have a window slightly open, damp air makes you feel cold. My bill is £360 a year for oil fired wet heating a three bed bungalow 8am to 8pm. Don't believe utility companies or Martin Lewis sponsored sites.
18 degrees is toasty for a lot of people. We never get higher than 16 in the winter.
18c?! That's freezing. You nuts?! 23c.
@@edwardcullen3251 18 is more than warm enough in the winter, its actually the average home temp in the UK. In the 60s the average was 12c. It normal and healthy to be a bit colder in the winter, boosts the immune system and less recycled air slows the spread of bugs.
18 indoors for the winter is the colder side .19 is better .
Mine is on 18 at the moment and I'm so cold, I also have layers on.
Is that what your thermostat is set to? What is the actual temperature of the house? Ours is set on 17°c but house temp is 21° to 22°.
Their not there.
What`s not there.
If you like.
@@dereton33 No, it's not because I like, it's because it is the correct spelling and word. It's because people like you don't care about grammar and spelling and correctness, the standards are dropping to gutter level.
Even cheaper, just wear a duvet.
Ha ha. Cheers Dave.
I'd heard some people are reinstating their fireplaces for heating and cooking.
Yes we we reinstated ours.
My gas is way cheaper than electric - I tend to just leave rooms not in use closed and have the lounge at 21c and hall rad 19c and a towel rail in the bathroom - an hour before bed opening the bedroom door - works for me - it was -2c outdoors today
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Yes all our thermo rad valves set at 3 except bathroom which is fully on(was told to leave one rad fully on to relieve pressure on system)have adjusted boiler flow temp down (it was at 75 deg when installed,think its at 55 now and rads still get hot.We have a hive movable room stat so our coldest room joined to kitchen with patio doors and roof lantern (always around 2 deg colder than adjoining room)set the stat in there around 17 and let it run during the day(always off during the night) .Find if we let it go off and temp drops alot it takes alot to get it back up there again so it must use alot more gas to do that.Although 17 does not seem that hot because we have lots of insulation especially in the room i mentioned which is a new exten.and has up to date ins.materials even in the current outside temps it is warm.
Yeah but to fill a room the rads are sized accordingly ...if you just wanna have it on and pretend you're warm then that's his thing ...but these things leak And use 2kw of power and not cheap ...better getting the warm air electric heaters these are 1kw or 2kw and warm up instantly and £20 max I'd say anyway -10 nxt few days wrap up.
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If you buy a Split AC /Heater, you will get 4 KWh Warmth Out of 1 KWh Elektricity ! This works fine to the temperatures of 5 ° C .At lower temperatures, the effiency decreases to about 2 to 1 !
Thanks Nick.
@@dereton33 you are welcome ! greetings from germany
If you were to factor in the cost of wet central heating installation I guess you could use you oil filled radiator for quite a time.
True sue.
A convector heater uses only slightly more electricity than an oil filled radiator but heats the room up 10 times faster. I have one of that central heating room thermostats that maintains a constant temperature rather than heating and then turning off. Once up to temp the boiler only comes on for about 30 seconds every 20 minutes, the radiators are less than luke warm yet the house is a constant 19c.
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An oil filled radiator is an electric convection heater. The only difference is that the oil has to heat up before it warms the room.
Sounds like he needs a heated throw.
Yes throw one my way ha ha.
Definitely, oil-filled heater coz gas in Britain 🇬🇧 is very expensive stuffs!!😂😂
Ha ha. In britain everything is expensive.
Why not have heated seats surely that would be more efficient.
Still have to plug them in.
Just plain wrong that we are all wearing hats and coats indoors. Tipsters on television telling us about heating the person rather than the room. Just plain wrong ...
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nothing is cheaper than the other thing when it comes to electric and gas your heating the size of the room it takes the same amount of energy no matter what you use to heat that size of room.
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Yes one radiator on and the rest of the home is full of mold this year now the winter fuel allowance has gone if the cold don't see us off the mold will before the wall paper peels off the walls due to being cold and moisture collecting on outside walls this is the reality of what the Labour Government has caused this year.
Unfortunately yes.
Take a look at these tickers on the stock market. These are the base wholesale rates for UK gas and electricity. UBL1! is electricity, GWM1! is gas. As you can see from both of those, UK wholesale gas and electricity returned to pre-pandemic normal levels 23 months ago. French government fixed their prices down, UK government fixed them up. We are all being charged over double rates because of corruption between a captured energy regulator and collusion between UK Gov and the energy suppliers.
All bad news, for us the consumers.
Still none the wiser.
Swings and roundabouts. Read the reviews.
Cheapest way is just to fiddle the gas or electric meter.
Ha ha those were the days. Plenty of gas meters found facing the wrong way.
Try candles, lot cheaper.. Real affordable heating in uk now... Or the next best... No heating at all in rip off uk😢😡😡😡😡😡
Nice one.
Become a tortoise 🐢, ideal hibernation temperature is 3 to 10 deg/c (no heating required ) but seriously you wouldn't think the uk was 6th richest nation in the world, someone is benefitting extremely well out of the ridiculous energy prices
Should've done what France did and built lots of nuclear power plants in the 1970's
ha ha.
The gas, The oil rad gobbles up electricity like a pacman.
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Most of your arguments would only make sense if the cost per kWh was the same for gas oil and electric… which it isn’t.
The difference is here that only one room is being heated.
Well of course its cheaper, It shuts off the heating to the rest of the house! Heating one room with a gas boiler would be cheaper than this electric heater.
Thanks Steve.
The oil radiators really ain't worth the 2000watts that they run at.
in an insulated room they only run for a bit before turning off, thats the point of the oil, it acts like a thermal battery and turns on just to top it off. Very efficient compared to heating a whole house with a boiler
@nxxynx5039…and you wouldn’t have it on full whack anyway. For continuous use during the day I would guess about 300-500w would be sufficient.
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The sick and disabled also lost Warm Home Discount under the Tories (or WEF/CCP) and Senior "Citizens" (should be sovereign people), lost WFA under Labour (also WEF/CCP). I'm starting to notice a Neo Maoist trend that both parties are told to advocate 💔💔🤬🤬
We ae all suffering now. Unless you came here in a rubber boat.
@dereton33 Yes indeed, they even get a couple of helpers and priority at my GP surgery. Meanwhile the local council states there's none in my home town (the big hotels are full of them), besides our council offices are empty, theyre all "working" from home, so how would they know how many illegal immigrants (not refugees) are here🤔🙄😲
Eh? but, but I thought Labour said energy bills would be cheaper? Have they lied?? 🙂
What!!! the leibor party nooo.
When they build the ten nuclear power stations .
To heat my home, I just leave the fridge door open!
Ha ha.
Neither. Get an electric fan heater. Costs virtually nothing to run.
Must cost something.
I watched this video expecting to find out whether it is cheaper to run an oil filled radiator or gas heating. After all, that's what it says on the title. I am none the wiser.
The answer is in reading the comments.
In short, to heat yourself up in a smallish room, oil heater with a click on, click off thermostat set appropriately, and logically closing the door and windows of the room it's in, has got to be cheaper than running gas boilers for the same amount of time to heat the whole house. Depends what you pay for your electric and gas I suppose and how much heat your home holds and loses. Impossible for a one size fits all answer to be honest. Different people like and require different levels of heat also. The elderly. People out of hospital. People with certain conditions and so on.
Paraffin heaters remember those?
Ha ha yes. The fumes off em used nigh kill me.
Still dint know what boiler cost anyone? I have tested oilfill radiators will heat a large room for 7 pound a day on 24.7 so 50 a week to heat 1 large room. I have since tested a chinese diesil heater and is saving me 600 to a thousand a winter 6 months run it on heating oil abot 6 p a hour when bought in bulk cist 70 pound plus some bits drill etc is the best on the market now 21 pound a week on 24.7.cost of runjing boiler anyone?
Thanks Mike.
Oil filled or not makes no difference. It's an expensive to run electric heater.
see reviews before making this comment.
@dereton33 Laws of physics mate.
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Corporate manslaughter?
It should be cheaper as he is only heating one room, I'd rather heat the whole house...
Thanks John.
Boilers use gas…but don’t forget the electric for the thermostat, pump, boiler internals etc etc and maintenance costs too…. Gas boiler…heat pump, electric rads and heaters…no thanks..don’t wish to sell a kidney this winter to pay to keep warm…I like my good old reliable paraffin…
Wow you can still get them.
I thought they were banned, carbon monoxide poisoning.