Something I think you have overlooked is that Console could be a good deal depending on your interest in online play. If you are only interested in free online games, it's actually probably a better deal than core. You can already play Fortnite, Halo Infinite, Fall Guys, Rocket League, COD Warzone/DMZ, Apex Legends without having any of the subscriptions. So something I think is fair to ask is, what games are valuable to the individual for online multiplayer? If you're just playing one of those games I listed, imo you're better off getting Console or no subscription whatsoever.
Agreed. I also wonder how many people never bought Xbox Live, just playing the games they bought on disc. Back in the day, that was me. Then I bought 3 years of Xbox Gold Live and paid $1 to convert to Game Pass Ultimate and have never looked back. I still don't play online.
@@rager-69 Yeah I used to buy gold and get games I wanted full price. Then I used the conversion trick almost three years back. That's expiring in November and with free to play games having free multiplayer now, I think I might not get any subscriptions and just pay full price for games I want. I find it hard to justify paying for ultimate when the games I actually use for online play are free now. I think the only game I use online for is MCC, or a gamepass game I try for a few weeks before going back to my favorites. Maybe after going a few months without a subscription, I'll change my mind. But the free to play trend has killed the value of Xbox gold/gamepass core for me.
If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming. But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
@@NordicWildSoul People have been asking for free online multiplayer for ages. If Xbox believed the increase in new GamePass subs would offset the loss in revenue from dropping the online multiplayer tax, they would’ve done so already. To me, it’s clear that they don’t think the number of potential new subs would offset the revenue lost from the online multiplayer subscription. You also have to take into consideration that online multiplayer access is probably the main reason why console players choose GP Ultimate over GP Console. If online multiplayer became free, I’d guess that many (if not, most) Ultimate subscribers would downgrade to GamePass Console which would further reduce the amount of money Xbox makes from its user base. I don’t think Xbox gets rid of the online multiplayer tax until they have another popular feature to include in Ultimate and upsell us on. If you couple the loss of Xbox Live/Game Pass Core revenue with the number of people who’d probably downgrade from Ultimate to Console, that’s a significant reduction in revenue that wouldn’t be made up by new GamePass subs.
Exactly. It is obviously terrible value if you will be playing non free-to-play games online. If you are solely a free-to-play or single-player gamer, this would be perfect for you. Honestly if Sony offered a Playstation Plus Premium (Offline Edition) for $10 per month I would def grab that. Well maybe, since it doesn't include day one games. EDIT: It is still true right that all free to play games don't require an online subscription right? Like Warzone, Fortnight, Fall Guys, Warframe etc?
if you already had a year long subscription you keep the year long subscription, i haven’t changed mine since years & years ago when i first got gold, & when it went to gp core i kept my year long subscription
Console is an awesome tear for people that don't want to play online. You get to play every game even the day one releases and maybe you don't want to hear all the toxicity on the mics or play with people online.
If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming. But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
@@Lukasz3332xtimes have changed and different now. Most people can't be bothered picking up the pad to play anything now let alone pay for a subscription fee just to play online when they've already bought the console and the game for it
I am happy that I got the console tier. I really don’t care for the online multiplayer stuff I don’t really use the perk options or the EA membership thing. Plus here’s the added benefit: This tier helps me save 6 dollars per month so the tier i chosen is perfect for me.
@@mr_agave I just received that email! I am very upset with Xbox. Console tier is pretty much the only thing I can afford from them since I don’t really play online games.
I only paid for Game Pass Ultimate for years for several reasons. I mainly play on PC. Bonuses on Ultimate is Perks, Xbox+PC, Cloud, EA Access, A lot more MS Reward points etc.
In fact for me Console tier is great. I play strict on console, only form time to time on PC but for that I use GOG. But 90% of play time is console and form that another 80-90% is single player games. Only one game I play multiplayer is Halo Infinite and this one is free so no need to pay. Anyway if I have to but it now I definitely get console tier. Ultimate is great but the price is much higher.
For people who play only single player games, of which Xbox & Game Pass have plenty (Starfield, Psychonauts 2, The Outer Worlds, Fable, Assassin's Creed, Wasteland 3, Pillars of Eternity, Fallout 4, Skyrim), the Console Game Pass seems the best option. Don't know why it's being called the garbage tier, honestly.
Because these guys are shills. Microsoft goes out of their way to hide the Console tier. Pretty obvious that they'd want to kill it off, since it IS the best value for regular gamers who want to play regular games by themselves on their console. Pretty hilarious that they'd call out a F2P game like Fall Guys as a reason to sign up for Core/Ultimate.
Because this idiot only play Call of duty online. I also play offline rpg. DON't need to pay extra for online. Console tier is the best for offline gameplay.
@@molecularmage5443 It's a legacy option, it was pretty much the first tier. Now they want to phase it out and push people to more expensive / less value tiers.
Disagree about the console tier being garbage. It's great for some people I don't play multiplayer , don't care about xcloud and EA play is too dominated by multiplayer and sports games. Console really is the best tier for me.
So they basically doubled the price of basic gold for a whole year. For basic Xbox live per a whole year was a $60 prepaid card with no tax (I bought them at Krogers for years for fuel points). Now, if they get rid of the prepaid codes and can only go by the $9.99 a month X 12 months it equals 120 (not including tax rate wherever you live) and where I live it would come out to $129.70 with tax just for basic gold , now called core. JUST FOR BASIC multiplayer access to online Internet! So apparently the so called backlash when Microsoft announced the price hike in gold, didn't amount to nothing and Microsoft still pushed it under the rug with a disguise. I've paid for Xbox gold for 13 years without bitching but this is becoming fk'ing bull$h!t. They are throwing more junk in just to say you are getting a "deal" and to "justify" charging double of what you used to get. Looks like I'll be buying up the $60 prepaid cards before they go away, so I'm not doubly screwed out of money.
@@Zeromoons They work, well last I tried they work. Standard Xbox live Gold codes turn into what ever you have at moment, for example if you have ultimate the prepaid codes will turn into a 3:2 ratio of ultimate (6-9 months or so). However Microsoft has changed the rules and now you get less for your money with the 12 month prepaid Xbox live codes. (Greedy bastards) It's a 3:2 ratio now instead of 1:1 for Xbox live Gold convention to ultimate. you'll now need to purchase around 18 months of Xbox Live Gold to convert it to 12 months of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, pushing the price to around $120 instead of the previous $60 when using the conversion method. With the new Xbox game pass increase ($16.99 for ultimate $204 for 12 months not including tax), the annual subscription costs around $200 if you're paying monthly (actually yearly), so the conversion trick could still save you around $80 or so if that's what you'd prefer to do. Hope this info helps, because Microsoft sure in the hell doesn't.
What Microsoft should do (but they won't) is to make online gaming free, as is should be. Then, make only 3 tiers of game pass, Console, PC and Ultimate.
As someone who has ZERO interest in playing online, if there were only Core and Ultimate and I had to pay 50% more just to get access to the full catalog (which includes single player only games like Starfield) I'd be furious.
Brad just assumes that everyone plays multiplayer games. There are plenty who don't. And people who subscribe to "Console" can still play Halo, COD Warzone, Fortnite, and other free to play games online if they choose. For me, I'll either subscribe to Console, or nothing at all. I refuse to pay for multiplayer.
@@MARS-ht7qu Halo Infinite multiplayer is free. You don't need Game Pass at all. The single player campaign would require either the "Console" tier or Game Pass Ultimate.
Upgraded from Gold to ultimate. Once the current term expires will be going back down to Core. I’m one of those old school game buyers, usually on physical media.
10$ a month is a total of 120$ a year. Before this was a thing I could’ve gotten a year subscription for 60$. I’m paying double for essentially the same result because idc about being able to play games that I don’t care about Time to get a pc ig
Thank you. This helped. My year subscription ended and I had no idea what to do for my kid. He plays 3 games online and that’s it. You cleared it up quickly on what works best. Thank you again.
Xbox believes they have way more growth potential on PC than they do on console, so they’re giving PC users a better deal to incentivize them to switch over to PC GamePass.
Like the comment above states, they’re definitely trying to grow the PC side. In concept you can call it supply and demand. There’s way more demand on console so the prices go up.
Im switching from core to console, there are lots of better games that i didn't have the chance to play before and most of the free games that i already played have free multiplayer and all that for 1$ more, sounds like a great deal for me
I was an ultimate subscriber for years, but I rarely had time to play all of the other “free” game pass offerings, so I downgraded to gold, now core. Maybe I’ll actually play and finish some of the other games I currently own.
Most of the games with Game Pass I already own on disc or digitally. Cause if my subscription runs out, I can at least play my games until I get it paid.
Console for $11 with the entire GPU library and Day 1s feels like highway robbery. That's a great deal if you're like me and you don't enjoy online multiplayer. I didnt even know it was a thing until just now and I feel dumb
Core is actually a good choice for digital xbox players as well, sometimes you just want to play a game for a longer time without having to worry that it will disappear from game pass one day
I feel like the tiers would be a lot more respectable if multiplayer/online play was made universally free with no restrictions. Paying for online play has always been ridiculous (and not something on PC). This would make multiplayer and cloud saves free on Xbox bringing it to parity with PC and all of a sudden paying twice as much for hundreds more games and day one is a fantastic deal. But as is with nearly all the most popular titles on Game Pass requiring multiplayer console is just a tier to up sell people to GPU.
Absolutely! If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming. But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
I don't know if I would call Console the garbage tier. After all it is just the regular Xbox game pass re-branded. I rarely play against anyone in online multiplayer anymore, so that part doesn't matter to me. The main reasons I subscribe to GP Ultimate is the cloud gaming and the EA play games. The only game I played multiplayer on Game Pass was Tetris Evolved when it was on there. I still think that these price tiers will soon be disrupted with cheaper ad supported tiers.
So the core is twice the price i paid for gold per year. Great. So from $60 to $120 per year for multiplayer. So they still doubled the price despite the backtrack after the uproar.Time to speak to the consumer authorities…
Yep it's going to be double and the backlash didn't do jack$hit except make them disguise the deal. $9.99 a month X 12= $120 a year not including tax rate. (Would cost me $129.70 with tax a year now) VS what used to be a $60 prepaid for a whole Xbox live year card with no tax. Something I've been buying for the last 13 years on Xbox. Welcome to the multi trillion dollar greed company that is more focused on buying studios and putting out half baked POS and indies then producing good quality games and Xbox exclusives that made the Xbox brand, it's no wonder they are last in the console market.
@@cynicalsciguy9342you can buy a 12 month game pass core card for £49.99 here in UK so there will be similar thing in USA I'm sure. It replaced the gold one for the same price
@@cynicalsciguy9342Best Buy sells a 12 month version of game pass core for 60 dollars. I agree it’s bs that they’re charging more for essentially the same thing.
So are you saying Game Pass console? I can’t play online even if I buy the game or just games that I download off Game Pass I can’t play them online. ?
As someone that still don't play online why wouldn't i choose the regular GP? Only thing GPU gives you unless you're also on PC is EA games. Not really worth $5 extra per month.
Yup, I was confused and hurriedly purchased console, because I was trying to meet up with my friend online. Seemed like the best option because its second in line and more expensive.
I think you missunderstand the usage of "console", This is what we had with the normal GP without any any additional stuff. So you can buy 1 Year of Core and then only for some single months extend it to "consloe" to play GP games. After the the subscription time it will be core again. So Console is an addon to core and not a separate subscription at all. This is as it was with Gold and GP (not Ultimate) for years now. That means you Gold (Core) gets not upgraded to anything else and is still active if you buy a month of "console". So for anyone who want only MP without GP, you can buy the 1-3 year core subscription for a very low price, which is/was Gold before. Later on, if you want to play some GP Games you can just buy 1 month GP console as an addon to core. After the 1 month you still have your core subsrciption. This is exactly that, what we had for years already, it has just another confusing branding name.
GPU is expensive as a student, but I also own multiplayer games. I would gladly pay the 60 for a year of GP Core, and just turn on the months separately for Console when I have more time to play.
I’m curious if there’s a difference between Core and Console when purchasing say Starfield Digital Upgrade which was half the price of a game. I’m wondering if Core qualifies. If not, that’s some shady practices. I guess I’ll have to try it.
As a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber this is a massive fail. 1. We are losing 2 free GWG games each month which we can play whenever/forever (24 games a year) 2. Only about 3 (I think) games in the Game Pass Core Library are not already available through Game Pass Ultimate. So we lose games and gain nothing with no reduction in the Game Pass Ultimate price to compensate... so sad.
I'm not sure console is worthless, if you only play on console mostly single player games, then console makes sense given the amount of games you get access to, it is not as good value as pc game pass (EA Play is not included), but that is understandable given that console always entail a premium.
Bro that's gonaa slap! I already pay for 2 subscriptions me and my kids so a family plan with 5 people with individual accounts so no game sharing that'll be decent asl
Yup im on a fixed ans strict income / budget, so Core is perfect I only play one or a few games online anyways and honestly I think if a user only plays one game repeatedly, that there should be an even cheaper fee, like 4.99 a month if you don't care to play other games being offered. If you choose to buy your games rather than play games for a duration of time each month. Then. You only pay what you play. Thank you.
Just out of curiosity if i subscribe to a year of gamepass Core can i still get a month of base gamepass or do i end up having to pay for the year as well to keep my online subscription
I've been having Xbox Game pass ultimate for like forever. On my Series X console as well as other previous gens. I had a sub of live etc. Now if only I had a PC I have a MacBook thats almost 10 but honestly don't know if I'd stay away from the console. Now I get lots of Gamepass pts used a bit but have used it to basically fund it free or as gift cards or enter sweepstakes that I'll never win. Maybe one day. Now back to finish your vid.
So you saying if I pay money for xbox hardware, I have to pay more for the subscription and get less benefits than PC so that I can pay off the xbox hardware that they sold at a loss? As someone who bought their xbox hardware on the used market, that price difference makes no sense.
This is bullshit getting charged $20 a month I swear the gaming companies just more money hungry just charge us year like Xbox live good use to do I just want to play single player games I don’t care about multiplayer anymore because multiplayer it’s too Toxic Xbox you guys lost your touch a long time ago
@@michaelsmelt5218 yes but not technically because you have to have gamepass still to play it , the multiplayer is free I guess but this video made it seem like you couldn't play any multiplayer without the higher tier subscription which isn't true. And if you look up the tiers now it just says core , ultimate , and pc , and on the xbox itself it gives you options for console or ultimate . And console says it has multiplayer but it really doesn't include it on most games .
Let's look at it this way, if you game on PC and console all roads lead to Ultimate. If I wanted core and PC separately, those are three dollars more per month. Not worth it to me. I only have Core to play Xbox online. I am rethinking this. I'll give it a month or two before making a decision. I wish they would just make it free to game online via console. I never liked this about console that Micorsoft, Sony, and Nintendo currently do.
I just reasently bought a samsung S95D oled t.v. and it offers xbox pass. (Im yet to recieve delivery) Now, im not a big gamer BUT, when Medal of Honor Air born came out, i bing played that the shit outa that game, and im yet to play the other Medal of Honor games 1st question: are any of these games availabe on xbox pass or should i buy an xbox seris X, If i need to buy a console, will these old games even play on a series X console?
Fall Guys, Halo Infinite Multiplayer, COD Warzone 2 DON'T NEED GAMEPASS CORE or any gamepass plans. They are free to play. Only games that are not free Like Forza Motorsport multiplayer need Games Pass core or Ultimate.
Why does it say on the PC tier that there's no online multiplayer? What the hell is that?🤷🏿♂️ This is confusing I'm just going to go to steam and stay over there! 🤦🏿♂️
Xbox Game Pass Console is just the original Game pass without online, not everyone needs online. Why would you say that you shouldn’t subscribe to it? 🙃
do you know if i bought siege on pc if i can play the same account and stuff on console without having to buy it again or paying for a subscription etc overall just nothing required just link xbox account im just curious
There are games on the pass that literally require online to even function, so how the FCK! Is one supposed to play does games if you get the console tier???
Yeah, I really wish they would have gone with the family plan set up because I have 4 consoles. One for me, my wife and my 2 young children and if we all want to play a game together using game pass I have to have 4 subscriptions coming out $70 a month and that is ridiculous.
Could be done with 2 subscriptions using the home console feature. For example you and your wife each get game pass and set your kids consoles as your home consoles. Anyone on your home console gets the benefits of your subscription and you get your subscription benefits on any console you're signed into.
What if I own GTA Online/FH5 and get a core membership? Since GTA/FH5 is not in the Core membership "games list", will I be able to play it online? Thanks in advance!
So, for "Online Console Multiplay" can you be on a Xbox and a buddy be playing on a PC? I'm assuming not, but just trying to figure this out for my son.
Depends on if the game is cross platform or not, most 1st party xbox games will be cross platform but you would have to try it out or search the game to see if its compatible
I just wish Microsoft could figure out a way to solve the problem of not wanting to sell any household more than two xbox's. I have three and the third one never gets used for obvious reasons.
So if I keep getting the year membership from the store that transfers to core becuz I know u can’t purchase membership anymore online since they keep pushing the game pass stuff
Question, I like the day one games and do not play anything online, which one do you suggest. I also do not play on cloud or PC. I currently pay for Ultimate, maybe console is for me?
I'm in the same boat except I don't pay for Ultimate. I'm thinking of signing up for Console for a month here or there just to play new games like Starfield, then cancel once I've beaten the game(s).
If you buy a Xbox gold card at Walmart you can't redeem unless you give them a credit card or PayPal.They will not redeem gift cards without credit card or PayPal. So I'm out $25.00
I honestly think that gamepass should be eradicated as a whole. Lots of people like me. Don’t have the ability to AFFORD gamepass. And this ruins it for us because now we can’t play any of the games we used to love playing with our friends anymore
They don't own them yet, but likely will soon. Eventually, the new COD games will launch on Game Pass, but it's unclear if the one releasing in 2023 will. There might still be contractual obligations to Sony and it won't be until 2024 that new COD games launch on Game Pass. But all the older COD games should be there shortly after the acquisition completes.
what i wish we got was we can have xbox live gold free but all you get it free multiplayer and that's it while if you get core or the highest service you get everything for a month or a year. wouldn't that be better?
Just my console and the time to play is all I need. I don't need Online Play, my time is valuable and I don't need to spend it on Griefers, Pay real money to advance ( Fallout 76) to this day I can't trade that game withinn a 100 miles of here.😊
Console is fine, I have it. No interest in multiplayer, I’m a single player gamer and proud.
I play multiplayer, but all the MP games I play are Free To Play, so I don't have to pay for online. Game Pass Console is perfect.
Its a very very niche tier. Even for single player players
The problem is a number of the games force always online even if they're single player and a lot are moving in that direction.
@vullord666 its an internet connection needed, not a multiplayer subscription.
@@holdthisforme8235 Why is it a niche tier for single player gamers? It's just regular Game Pass with a new name.
Something I think you have overlooked is that Console could be a good deal depending on your interest in online play. If you are only interested in free online games, it's actually probably a better deal than core.
You can already play Fortnite, Halo Infinite, Fall Guys, Rocket League, COD Warzone/DMZ, Apex Legends without having any of the subscriptions. So something I think is fair to ask is, what games are valuable to the individual for online multiplayer?
If you're just playing one of those games I listed, imo you're better off getting Console or no subscription whatsoever.
Agreed. I also wonder how many people never bought Xbox Live, just playing the games they bought on disc. Back in the day, that was me. Then I bought 3 years of Xbox Gold Live and paid $1 to convert to Game Pass Ultimate and have never looked back. I still don't play online.
@@rager-69 Yeah I used to buy gold and get games I wanted full price. Then I used the conversion trick almost three years back. That's expiring in November and with free to play games having free multiplayer now, I think I might not get any subscriptions and just pay full price for games I want. I find it hard to justify paying for ultimate when the games I actually use for online play are free now. I think the only game I use online for is MCC, or a gamepass game I try for a few weeks before going back to my favorites.
Maybe after going a few months without a subscription, I'll change my mind. But the free to play trend has killed the value of Xbox gold/gamepass core for me.
If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming.
But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
@@NordicWildSoul People have been asking for free online multiplayer for ages. If Xbox believed the increase in new GamePass subs would offset the loss in revenue from dropping the online multiplayer tax, they would’ve done so already. To me, it’s clear that they don’t think the number of potential new subs would offset the revenue lost from the online multiplayer subscription.
You also have to take into consideration that online multiplayer access is probably the main reason why console players choose GP Ultimate over GP Console. If online multiplayer became free, I’d guess that many (if not, most) Ultimate subscribers would downgrade to GamePass Console which would further reduce the amount of money Xbox makes from its user base.
I don’t think Xbox gets rid of the online multiplayer tax until they have another popular feature to include in Ultimate and upsell us on.
If you couple the loss of Xbox Live/Game Pass Core revenue with the number of people who’d probably downgrade from Ultimate to Console, that’s a significant reduction in revenue that wouldn’t be made up by new GamePass subs.
Exactly. It is obviously terrible value if you will be playing non free-to-play games online. If you are solely a free-to-play or single-player gamer, this would be perfect for you.
Honestly if Sony offered a Playstation Plus Premium (Offline Edition) for $10 per month I would def grab that. Well maybe, since it doesn't include day one games.
EDIT: It is still true right that all free to play games don't require an online subscription right? Like Warzone, Fortnight, Fall Guys, Warframe etc?
$60 for 12 months That's the plan I want. If I wanna play a game. I'll go to the store and buy it. I think it's time to build a gaming PC.
if you already had a year long subscription you keep the year long subscription, i haven’t changed mine since years & years ago when i first got gold, & when it went to gp core i kept my year long subscription
Console is an awesome tear for people that don't want to play online. You get to play every game even the day one releases and maybe you don't want to hear all the toxicity on the mics or play with people online.
But no EA Play. That’s a deal breaker imo
If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming.
But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
well, mp on PS3 was free and they almost lost to Xbox 360.
@@Lukasz3332xtimes have changed and different now. Most people can't be bothered picking up the pad to play anything now let alone pay for a subscription fee just to play online when they've already bought the console and the game for it
NOT ALMOST, They lost haha😂@@Lukasz3332x
I am happy that I got the console tier. I really don’t care for the online multiplayer stuff I don’t really use the perk options or the EA membership thing. Plus here’s the added benefit: This tier helps me save 6 dollars per month so the tier i chosen is perfect for me.
@@mr_agave I just received that email! I am very upset with Xbox. Console tier is pretty much the only thing I can afford from them since I don’t really play online games.
I only paid for Game Pass Ultimate for years for several reasons. I mainly play on PC.
Bonuses on Ultimate is Perks, Xbox+PC, Cloud, EA Access, A lot more MS Reward points etc.
Are you able to game share like before with another account?
@@sh0kwermI have no clue as i never shared, but they have a FAQ about it on official site.
@@sh0kwerm I have no clue. Never had anyone to share games with.
In fact for me Console tier is great. I play strict on console, only form time to time on PC but for that I use GOG. But 90% of play time is console and form that another 80-90% is single player games. Only one game I play multiplayer is Halo Infinite and this one is free so no need to pay. Anyway if I have to but it now I definitely get console tier. Ultimate is great but the price is much higher.
For people who play only single player games, of which Xbox & Game Pass have plenty (Starfield, Psychonauts 2, The Outer Worlds, Fable, Assassin's Creed, Wasteland 3, Pillars of Eternity, Fallout 4, Skyrim), the Console Game Pass seems the best option. Don't know why it's being called the garbage tier, honestly.
Because these guys are shills. Microsoft goes out of their way to hide the Console tier. Pretty obvious that they'd want to kill it off, since it IS the best value for regular gamers who want to play regular games by themselves on their console. Pretty hilarious that they'd call out a F2P game like Fall Guys as a reason to sign up for Core/Ultimate.
Because this idiot only play Call of duty online. I also play offline rpg. DON't need to pay extra for online. Console tier is the best for offline gameplay.
@@metaldicemanif they didn't want pp to have it then why make it lol
@@molecularmage5443 It's a legacy option, it was pretty much the first tier. Now they want to phase it out and push people to more expensive / less value tiers.
@molecularmage5443 if you go on xbox game pass website on mobile phone they actually hide it.
Console is the best for me I'm really into "offline" games . So getting day one games and the catalog is a W for me .
I'm that person that plays multiplayer games, but I keep "appears off" so nobody bothers me. Ha ha ha. I am backwards. :)
Disagree about the console tier being garbage. It's great for some people
I don't play multiplayer , don't care about xcloud and EA play is too dominated by multiplayer and sports games.
Console really is the best tier for me.
So they basically doubled the price of basic gold for a whole year.
For basic Xbox live per a whole year was a $60 prepaid card with no tax (I bought them at Krogers for years for fuel points).
Now, if they get rid of the prepaid codes and can only go by the $9.99 a month X 12 months it equals 120 (not including tax rate wherever you live) and where I live it would come out to $129.70 with tax just for basic gold , now called core. JUST FOR BASIC multiplayer access to online Internet!
So apparently the so called backlash when Microsoft announced the price hike in gold, didn't amount to nothing and Microsoft still pushed it under the rug with a disguise.
I've paid for Xbox gold for 13 years without bitching but this is becoming fk'ing bull$h!t.
They are throwing more junk in just to say you are getting a "deal" and to "justify" charging double of what you used to get.
Looks like I'll be buying up the $60 prepaid cards before they go away, so I'm not doubly screwed out of money.
Don’t they do not work
@@Zeromoons They work, well last I tried they work.
Standard Xbox live Gold codes turn into what ever you have at moment, for example if you have ultimate the prepaid codes will turn into a 3:2 ratio of ultimate (6-9 months or so).
However Microsoft has changed the rules and now you get less for your money with the 12 month prepaid Xbox live codes. (Greedy bastards)
It's a 3:2 ratio now instead of 1:1 for Xbox live Gold convention to ultimate.
you'll now need to purchase around 18 months of Xbox Live Gold to convert it to 12 months of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, pushing the price to around $120 instead of the previous $60 when using the conversion method.
With the new Xbox game pass increase ($16.99 for ultimate $204 for 12 months not including tax), the annual subscription costs around $200 if you're paying monthly (actually yearly), so the conversion trick could still save you around $80 or so if that's what you'd prefer to do.
Hope this info helps, because Microsoft sure in the hell doesn't.
@@Zeromoons huh?
What Microsoft should do (but they won't) is to make online gaming free, as is should be. Then, make only 3 tiers of game pass, Console, PC and Ultimate.
As someone who has ZERO interest in playing online, if there were only Core and Ultimate and I had to pay 50% more just to get access to the full catalog (which includes single player only games like Starfield) I'd be furious.
Brad just assumes that everyone plays multiplayer games. There are plenty who don't. And people who subscribe to "Console" can still play Halo, COD Warzone, Fortnite, and other free to play games online if they choose. For me, I'll either subscribe to Console, or nothing at all. I refuse to pay for multiplayer.
New to Xbox here
So I could buy console tier
Play halo infinite online and could I play it's campaing due to the game pass console tier ?
@@MARS-ht7qu Halo Infinite multiplayer is free. You don't need Game Pass at all. The single player campaign would require either the "Console" tier or Game Pass Ultimate.
imagine not having friends
They doubled the price to play Online and No One is Talking about it?!! 😠😠
It went from $60 or $70 a year to $120 a Year!!!!! 😠😠😠
you can always go on PS where you would be paying even more
You can't even buy 12 months of Game pass lil bud and not only that your getting more then xbox live gold that's why it went up
@@dxkq6576 wow!! I found a complete moron here. Go for a nap son.
$223.08 with taxes as of now
Upgraded from Gold to ultimate. Once the current term expires will be going back down to Core. I’m one of those old school game buyers, usually on physical media.
Ultimate is nice for testing out full games to see what you want. It saved me a lot of money as i didn't want many i had on Wishlist.
Can't you still play free to play games multiplayer with Console tier, like with Xbox Live Silver or Free before
You need to pay to play
10$ a month is a total of 120$ a year. Before this was a thing I could’ve gotten a year subscription for 60$.
I’m paying double for essentially the same result because idc about being able to play games that I don’t care about
Time to get a pc ig
Thank you. This helped. My year subscription ended and I had no idea what to do for my kid. He plays 3 games online and that’s it. You cleared it up quickly on what works best. Thank you again.
What baffles me is that PC and Console tiers are the same except Console misses EA Play and online multiplayer, yet you pay $1 more 🙄
Xbox believes they have way more growth potential on PC than they do on console, so they’re giving PC users a better deal to incentivize them to switch over to PC GamePass.
Like the comment above states, they’re definitely trying to grow the PC side. In concept you can call it supply and demand. There’s way more demand on console so the prices go up.
I'm suprised they didnt make console tier for 11.99 or 12.99 with online play.
They literally just raised the price a couple of dollars or so recently. It convinced me to downgrade my subscription from Ultimate to Console.
Im switching from core to console, there are lots of better games that i didn't have the chance to play before and most of the free games that i already played have free multiplayer and all that for 1$ more, sounds like a great deal for me
Game Pass core doesn't give all the servers on DayZ just three pages but it does on the ultimate what gives??
This sucks actually, so 9.99 a month, over a 120 a year,,,I miss paying 50-60 a year so I can just play online....damn it all...
I was an ultimate subscriber for years, but I rarely had time to play all of the other “free” game pass offerings, so I downgraded to gold, now core. Maybe I’ll actually play and finish some of the other games I currently own.
Most of the games with Game Pass I already own on disc or digitally. Cause if my subscription runs out, I can at least play my games until I get it paid.
The games I play are already free to play online. Fall Guy, Apex legends and Rocket League. 'Console' is perfect for me.
Console for $11 with the entire GPU library and Day 1s feels like highway robbery. That's a great deal if you're like me and you don't enjoy online multiplayer. I didnt even know it was a thing until just now and I feel dumb
Core is actually a good choice for digital xbox players as well, sometimes you just want to play a game for a longer time without having to worry that it will disappear from game pass one day
is there any different between pc game pass and the ultimate for a pc player?
I feel like the tiers would be a lot more respectable if multiplayer/online play was made universally free with no restrictions. Paying for online play has always been ridiculous (and not something on PC). This would make multiplayer and cloud saves free on Xbox bringing it to parity with PC and all of a sudden paying twice as much for hundreds more games and day one is a fantastic deal. But as is with nearly all the most popular titles on Game Pass requiring multiplayer console is just a tier to up sell people to GPU.
Absolutely!
If Microsoft Xbox would have been smart they could have won this console generation by making online play free, this would have pulled in a lot of new players to the Xbox side especially now Playstation raised their prices for online gaming.
But no, Xbox stayed stuck in their ways, what a shame...
Very useful explanation… Told me exactly what I needed to know. MANY THANKS! 🤝
I don't know if I would call Console the garbage tier. After all it is just the regular Xbox game pass re-branded. I rarely play against anyone in online multiplayer anymore, so that part doesn't matter to me. The main reasons I subscribe to GP Ultimate is the cloud gaming and the EA play games. The only game I played multiplayer on Game Pass was Tetris Evolved when it was on there. I still think that these price tiers will soon be disrupted with cheaper ad supported tiers.
So the core is twice the price i paid for gold per year. Great. So from $60 to $120 per year for multiplayer. So they still doubled the price despite the backtrack after the uproar.Time to speak to the consumer authorities…
Its the same price
Yep it's going to be double and the backlash didn't do jack$hit except make them disguise the deal.
$9.99 a month X 12= $120 a year not including tax rate. (Would cost me $129.70 with tax a year now)
VS what used to be a $60 prepaid for a whole Xbox live year card with no tax.
Something I've been buying for the last 13 years on Xbox.
Welcome to the multi trillion dollar greed company that is more focused on buying studios and putting out half baked POS and indies then producing good quality games and Xbox exclusives that made the Xbox brand, it's no wonder they are last in the console market.
@@cynicalsciguy9342you can buy a 12 month game pass core card for £49.99 here in UK so there will be similar thing in USA I'm sure. It replaced the gold one for the same price
@@cynicalsciguy9342Best Buy sells a 12 month version of game pass core for 60 dollars. I agree it’s bs that they’re charging more for essentially the same thing.
I had ultimate for years but i downgraded to core because im not dealing with 17 dollars a month anymore
i've been enjoying ultimate pass for a year so far, but never ever played any multi-player game. i guess i'm the special one.
So are you saying Game Pass console? I can’t play online even if I buy the game or just games that I download off Game Pass I can’t play them online. ?
As someone that still don't play online why wouldn't i choose the regular GP? Only thing GPU gives you unless you're also on PC is EA games. Not really worth $5 extra per month.
Yup, I was confused and hurriedly purchased console, because I was trying to meet up with my friend online. Seemed like the best option because its second in line and more expensive.
I think you missunderstand the usage of "console", This is what we had with the normal GP without any any additional stuff. So you can buy 1 Year of Core and then only for some single months extend it to "consloe" to play GP games. After the the subscription time it will be core again. So Console is an addon to core and not a separate subscription at all. This is as it was with Gold and GP (not Ultimate) for years now. That means you Gold (Core) gets not upgraded to anything else and is still active if you buy a month of "console". So for anyone who want only MP without GP, you can buy the 1-3 year core subscription for a very low price, which is/was Gold before. Later on, if you want to play some GP Games you can just buy 1 month GP console as an addon to core. After the 1 month you still have your core subsrciption. This is exactly that, what we had for years already, it has just another confusing branding name.
GPU is expensive as a student, but I also own multiplayer games. I would gladly pay the 60 for a year of GP Core, and just turn on the months separately for Console when I have more time to play.
I’m curious if there’s a difference between Core and Console when purchasing say Starfield Digital Upgrade which was half the price of a game. I’m wondering if Core qualifies. If not, that’s some shady practices. I guess I’ll have to try it.
Starfield isn't on Core, so you'd need either Console or Ultimate to use the upgrade.
As a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber this is a massive fail.
1. We are losing 2 free GWG games each month which we can play whenever/forever (24 games a year)
2. Only about 3 (I think) games in the Game Pass Core Library are not already available through Game Pass Ultimate.
So we lose games and gain nothing with no reduction in the Game Pass Ultimate price to compensate... so sad.
Yeah but you could only play the GWG games with an active subscription so it's actually not that different. You didn't own them, you "owned" them.
@@StephenYuanExcept 360 and og Xbox games.
I'm not sure console is worthless, if you only play on console mostly single player games, then console makes sense given the amount of games you get access to, it is not as good value as pc game pass (EA Play is not included), but that is understandable given that console always entail a premium.
So what do I need to play online? 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Core or ultimate
Game pass should allow weekly/weekend digital rentals for any game.
That's not possible since so many games can be completed in a day.
im still waiting on the family plan
Honestly! It was a great plan, me and my friends enjoyed it for almost as long as it was, and we were super sad when it was over
Bro that's gonaa slap! I already pay for 2 subscriptions me and my kids so a family plan with 5 people with individual accounts so no game sharing that'll be decent asl
In my 36 years of gaming I’ve never played an online game so console is the perfect tier for me.
Yup im on a fixed ans strict income / budget, so Core is perfect I only play one or a few games online anyways and honestly I think if a user only plays one game repeatedly, that there should be an even cheaper fee, like 4.99 a month if you don't care to play other games being offered. If you choose to buy your games rather than play games for a duration of time each month. Then. You only pay what you play. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this information much appreciated 💪🏽.
Hey Brad, you do not need any subscription for free to play games on xbox (or PS) like fall guys
The F2P section of games do not require both PS and Xbox GPC in order to play.
Just out of curiosity if i subscribe to a year of gamepass Core can i still get a month of base gamepass or do i end up having to pay for the year as well to keep my online subscription
I've been having Xbox Game pass ultimate for like forever. On my Series X console as well as other previous gens. I had a sub of live etc. Now if only I had a PC I have a MacBook thats almost 10 but honestly don't know if I'd stay away from the console. Now I get lots of Gamepass pts used a bit but have used it to basically fund it free or as gift cards or enter sweepstakes that I'll never win. Maybe one day. Now back to finish your vid.
So you saying if I pay money for xbox hardware, I have to pay more for the subscription and get less benefits than PC so that I can pay off the xbox hardware that they sold at a loss? As someone who bought their xbox hardware on the used market, that price difference makes no sense.
This is bullshit getting charged $20 a month I swear the gaming companies just more money hungry just charge us year like Xbox live good use to do I just want to play single player games I don’t care about multiplayer anymore because multiplayer it’s too Toxic Xbox you guys lost your touch a long time ago
if i buy the pc pass will i have access to black ops 6 multiplayer?
Some games you can play online with console , like halo infinite for example , depends on the game
Isnt halo infinite free to play?
@@michaelsmelt5218 yes but not technically because you have to have gamepass still to play it , the multiplayer is free I guess but this video made it seem like you couldn't play any multiplayer without the higher tier subscription which isn't true. And if you look up the tiers now it just says core , ultimate , and pc , and on the xbox itself it gives you options for console or ultimate . And console says it has multiplayer but it really doesn't include it on most games .
Let's look at it this way, if you game on PC and console all roads lead to Ultimate. If I wanted core and PC separately, those are three dollars more per month. Not worth it to me. I only have Core to play Xbox online. I am rethinking this. I'll give it a month or two before making a decision. I wish they would just make it free to game online via console. I never liked this about console that Micorsoft, Sony, and Nintendo currently do.
I just reasently bought a samsung S95D oled t.v. and it offers xbox pass.
(Im yet to recieve delivery)
Now, im not a big gamer BUT, when Medal of Honor Air born came out, i bing played that the shit outa that game, and im yet to play the other Medal of Honor games
1st question: are any of these games availabe on xbox pass or should i buy an xbox seris X,
If i need to buy a console, will these old games even play on a series X console?
Fall Guys, Halo Infinite Multiplayer, COD Warzone 2 DON'T NEED GAMEPASS CORE or any gamepass plans. They are free to play. Only games that are not free Like Forza Motorsport multiplayer need Games Pass core or Ultimate.
Why does it say on the PC tier that there's no online multiplayer? What the hell is that?🤷🏿♂️ This is confusing I'm just going to go to steam and stay over there! 🤦🏿♂️
Will they have a online 12 month membership for xbox game core pass or any other membership?
Xbox Game Pass Console is just the original Game pass without online, not everyone needs online. Why would you say that you shouldn’t subscribe to it? 🙃
can I have all the features from Ultimate game pass on pc, without having a console?
do you know if i bought siege on pc if i can play the same account and stuff on console without having to buy it again or paying for a subscription etc overall just nothing required just link xbox account im just curious
There are games on the pass that literally require online to even function, so how the FCK! Is one supposed to play does games if you get the console tier???
Wait? If i already have games like fortnite or roblox installed i still can play multiplayer using console pass right?😢😢
Last year I got the xbox game pass core and xbox live gold it doesn't work
Yeah, I really wish they would have gone with the family plan set up because I have 4 consoles. One for me, my wife and my 2 young children and if we all want to play a game together using game pass I have to have 4 subscriptions coming out $70 a month and that is ridiculous.
Could be done with 2 subscriptions using the home console feature. For example you and your wife each get game pass and set your kids consoles as your home consoles. Anyone on your home console gets the benefits of your subscription and you get your subscription benefits on any console you're signed into.
What if I own GTA Online/FH5 and get a core membership? Since GTA/FH5 is not in the Core membership "games list", will I be able to play it online?
Thanks in advance!
I don't get why you cant buy Ultimate for 12 months instead of 3
I have the console version. I installed warhammer 40000 and it only gave me the option to buy not play. Was this an error on Xbox’s part?
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Xbox’s new credit card.
Underrated comment!
So, for "Online Console Multiplay" can you be on a Xbox and a buddy be playing on a PC? I'm assuming not, but just trying to figure this out for my son.
Depends on if the game is cross platform or not, most 1st party xbox games will be cross platform but you would have to try it out or search the game to see if its compatible
Im so confused i have Core AND console and i didnt even realize it am do i need core no matter what or can i get rid of both and just get ultimate?
I just wish Microsoft could figure out a way to solve the problem of not wanting to sell any household more than two xbox's.
I have three and the third one never gets used for obvious reasons.
Obvious?
What is the maximum of people I can share my ulitame gamepass with I have 3 brother's with a xbox
So if I keep getting the year membership from the store that transfers to core becuz I know u can’t purchase membership anymore online since they keep pushing the game pass stuff
I was just given an Xbox one does game pass still work for one or nah
What happened to the family plan? I have four xboxs and kids
On pc is your only option for 1 year of game pass to buy it each month or is their a way to pay a 1 time fee for 1 year?
Can i still play the games solo campains if i cancle my subscriptions ?
Question, I like the day one games and do not play anything online, which one do you suggest. I also do not play on cloud or PC. I currently pay for Ultimate, maybe console is for me?
I'm in the same boat except I don't pay for Ultimate. I'm thinking of signing up for Console for a month here or there just to play new games like Starfield, then cancel once I've beaten the game(s).
Yup 100%. It's the same exact thing I just did. Day 1 new releases and a bunch of other games, just without multi-player.
Im not interested in buying a console. I only really want to stream games to my phone, also dont care much about MP. What tiers allow me to do this?
If you own the console itself you get the worst deal.
Gamepass only makes sense on PC for value now.
Ultimate is for those who use cloud, who does?
If you buy a Xbox gold card at Walmart you can't redeem unless you give them a credit card or PayPal.They will not redeem gift cards without credit card or PayPal.
So I'm out $25.00
I honestly think that gamepass should be eradicated as a whole. Lots of people like me. Don’t have the ability to AFFORD gamepass. And this ruins it for us because now we can’t play any of the games we used to love playing with our friends anymore
if i wanted to play console games on my PC then id need the ultimate or just the core version?
Pc gamepass
i buy my nephew xbox live yearly membership i cant do this no more ?
So if I get ultimate would i able to get the new modern warfare free since it’s own by Microsoft?
They don't own them yet, but likely will soon. Eventually, the new COD games will launch on Game Pass, but it's unclear if the one releasing in 2023 will. There might still be contractual obligations to Sony and it won't be until 2024 that new COD games launch on Game Pass. But all the older COD games should be there shortly after the acquisition completes.
what i wish we got was we can have xbox live gold free but all you get it free multiplayer and that's it while if you get core or the highest service you get everything for a month or a year. wouldn't that be better?
Better for who? You or them?
@@xHICKORYx better for us. pretty sure people on pc don't pay for mp. i think getting mp free but paying for everything else is fair.
@@davidempey8980 By "them" I meant Microsoft.
So console you can’t play 2k online
How much is the 3 month and yearly pass cost
Gamepass core you get over 37 games in the store free to play as of today including halo gears of war 5 ext
Feel like i should just upgrade to Ultimate, think having core and console is a waste of money
So is that console plan still offered?
its honestly a confusing offering. I mean if you are getting ultimate, why bother with the hardware and not just stream the game?
Is the game pass core 1 month or 3 months cheaper?
Just my console and the time to play is all I need. I don't need Online Play, my time is valuable and I don't need to spend it on Griefers, Pay real money to advance ( Fallout 76) to this day I can't trade that game withinn a 100 miles of here.😊
So you need Ultimate to play EA titles like fifa?