Wow! Thank you brother Muhlestein for sharing decades of study of and passion for the book of Abraham with us. Such an enlightening lesson, so many great insights! Thank you so much!
I’m very grateful for the Holy Ghost & his impressions. Neil A Maxwell said there will never be enough proof of the gospel that faith is no longer needed. Really great discussion. 😊
Thank you Brother Muhlestein! This was a special episode! I’m so grateful for technology that allows you to come into my home and feed me intellectually and spiritually. 🙏❤️
Words cannot express my sincere gratitude of what I felt and learned today. I never understood what the facsimiles meant. Thank you for taking time for all of us to increase our understanding and how it relates to us. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better Brother Muhlestein bore his testimony. I was so overwhelmed with the love God has for us and how He sent His Son to help us get back home to sit on a throne like Abraham. This episode will ring in my head and my heart for a long time. Thank you!
I am so glad you included a guest speaker for lesson one and lesson two. He has a wealth of knowledge that he was willing to share me. I know that there many people than me watching this but it feels as if you are directly talking to me. I appreciated hearing testimony at the end.
Thank you! This was totally awesome and inspiring. May we all follow in the footsteps of Abraham and ultimately receive all that God wants so badly to give us.
Wow! Quite impressive. I am far from having your expertises. I am just grateful to know that our Heavenly Father does all he can to bring us back to him, by sending His Son and sending prophets to guide us. Also, by sending wonderful teachers to help us understand the Scriptures. Thank you for all you do to help us out and for your love. Know that you are loved too! (watching from France).
Amazing!!! Learned, as always, so much from Dr. Muhlestien. He opens up the understanding of the OldTestament and the Abrahamic Covenant so well. Thank you so much for having him on, it such a blessing to learn what he has conveyed to us. His testimony is powerful and uplifting hopeful! I love this program and look forward to listening and growing without each week.
I've enjoyed watching a couple of Bishop Muhlestein's talks recently, particularly a fireside message he presented to a stake. His spirit is clearly one of the noble and great ones and he has taught me wonderful things. Please thank him for me.
I don't have the depth of learning you fellows have, but then I don't know that it would do me too much good. I know that what we have received comes from God, how it got here, isn't one of my top priorities. I love listening to how you can even relate the shapes of the figures to our journey back to God. I enjoy all your offerings on this years study. May the Lord keep blessing you and your families.
I thoroughly enjoyed Part One and Part Two. So well presented. Thank you for being so willing to share knowledge/expertise with us. I also caught Brother Muhlestein on Follow Him, with Hank Smith and John Bytheway. I am also reading Let's Talk About the Book of Abraham. I feel I have a greater understanding of all facets of the Book of Abraham. I sincerely thank all three of you for your ongoing efforts to teach and uplift.
I'm grateful for these two episodes. Although I pursued the way of faith and asking God aspect in my 50years as a convert, this equips me to minister and lead others to endure in their covenants.
I love starting my day listening to these lessons. I appreciate you all so much for taking the time to for these. I always learn something new and feel better
Totally Amazing Wow! That was a brilliant presentation. Gosh, what a treat to have Bro Muhlestein's take & academic expertise presented to us in this video. I must say the book of Abraham has never been a book I spent alot of time with, mostly because I found it too hard to understand or try and grasp. Even all the times I looked at the facsimiles, I'd be like 'oh boy, this is over my head and looks like all the other Egyptian images I see on the history channel'. You know it's really nice to go through the facsimiles and the BOA and break it down. It was very interesting to hear how Joseph Smith acquired the papyrus, as well as hear about the revelations that came to him with the translations. Again, I see the same pattern of Heavenly Father schooling Abraham just like he did with Enoch. I also see a Father who is ready and willing to share all he has with his children from the presentations we've had so far. I love that the entire book is really about Abraham's relationship with God, as well as our relationship with God. Thank you BOM Central for putting this magnigicent presentation together ❤.
Excellent work. I appreciate the combination of an academic perspective along with the personal revelatory opportunity that we all have been given through the Holy Ghost.
I can't believe I never knew the books of Moses and Abraham. I converted in 88 Thought I read book of Mormon twice but the year with the come follow me manual I felt it, saw the people in my mind they became people not story's, alma, Moroni,abinidi all brought me to tears I never had doubts but now.. anyway I struggled with D&C and thought pearl of great price was D&C. I've been effected. It's like seeing heavenly father as a individual, how loving, I could see the universe reading Moses and Abraham. I am amazed with what I've learned
Thought you would find this interesting. My Great-great...etc. Grandmother, Philindia Merrick and her two remaining children lived with the Joseph and Emma Smith for a time after the Hauns Mill Massacre. Their home was a playground for the two children Fanny and George. Fanny's journal tells that she and George both were shown the mummy and Egyptian Papyrus and the seer stones. She testifies of them and is a witness of the greatness of Joseph and Emma. In the coming years, Philindia would remarry Paul Kohlford and Joseph would occasionally stay with them when he was in hiding where he taught Fanny to knit booties for her cat.
It feels like the facsimiles to Egyptians are like emojis to us. They're pictures that could mean different things to different people at different times.🙂👍
Thank you for all these information, but for me is very simple: Joseph translated by the Spirit, using the same tools that he used with Book of Mormon. By the way , he translated all the Gold Plates, so is very possible after all this work he certainly was very familiar with egypt language . This is my opinion. But honestly doesn't matter for me. He did it under inspiration of the Heaven and this is enough for me to know.
Thank each one of you And I love each of these J.S.T.Books Have they been able to fix more books lately or are we in a stand still for now, since some of the paperwork were given away to different people and Water damage, No copies were made before given away? This i don't understand, mine not to understand Right 😍 Blessed to have all we have. Just like to know more about these beautiful people and books. My friend has seen these latest Books with the copy of the writings of JST, and Translation Great Gift for anyone who would can afford them ❤️
So the bottom line is Joseph translates Abraham and no one living today can read the characters? Perhaps when the millennium starts the language will be revealed. I just believe if Joseph said it it's true. Case closed.
Thank you guys .God be with you .Here is what I say we are more than a physical body. If so where did our spirit come from. Why call Him Heavenly Father unless He is? I am only one and the Father of my children that does not mean that there cannot be more fathers. The same is true with our Heavenly Father he is only one and the Father of our spirit. That does not mean that there cannot be more fathers in heaven to. Is there really any limit to space? Thinking the essence or purposes of life is growth and to become and to overcome..a baby Can grow up and become an adult when it cannot even wipe its own bottom. Why can't we grow up and become like our Heavenly Father. Is there really any limit to space? Why call Him Heavenly Father unless He is. DO know of any chiled that cannot grow up and become an adult. I say to some we do not have the right to try to limit our potential or the potential of others. We can become more Christ like .then I ask are you a Christian? And on and on we go .sometimes I say do you believe that our Heavenly Father had some of his children here on this side of the world.?
So... Where is the original facsimile #2? Was it stone, wood? Was it in the Chicago fire or no? Was it mostly damaged and a bunch filled in or is there a full original somewhere?
Awesome, love this. Do you by chance have the transcript somewhere? I'm going to incorporate this in tomorrow's sem lesson and would like to pull some things.
underneath the video, see the save button? to the right of that are three dots that if you click it will give you the option to "open transcript" which you can then copy.
You use the academics to get an idea and then you have to use inspiration and discernment and use how the gospel works with the Abraham translation to the Egyptian hieroglyphs to get a better understanding.
I have a sincere question: I believe Joseph was a prophet. I believe the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham are the word of God. I get that we don’t know what “by the Gift and Power of God” means exactly… but, what ever that process entails, we all acknowledge that Jospeh didn’t know the source language. Certainly God knows that too. So, what’s the point of the Gold plates? Like physically… Joseph didn’t read them into English… so why not just have Moroni bury the Urim and Thumin without the plates that no one (including Joseph) needs for the translation anyway? That’s my question. Why all the trouble of protecting the plates (or buying and studying the papyrus) when they weren’t needed for “translation” in the first place?
Great question. I see it as an opportunity to exercise faith and belief. Furthermore, the amount of physical evidence for the plates created an immediacy and reality for Joseph Smith and his immediate translation supporters who needed something tangible in order to support the translation efforts.
Wow! Thank you brother Muhlestein for sharing decades of study of and passion for the book of Abraham with us. Such an enlightening lesson, so many great insights! Thank you so much!
WOW is right! So enjoyed Dr. Muhlestein’s expertise and enthusiasm!!
I’m very grateful for the Holy Ghost & his impressions. Neil A Maxwell said there will never be enough proof of the gospel that faith is no longer needed. Really great discussion. 😊
Thank you Brother Muhlestein! This was a special episode! I’m so grateful for technology that allows you to come into my home and feed me intellectually and spiritually. 🙏❤️
Words cannot express my sincere gratitude of what I felt and learned today. I never understood what the facsimiles meant. Thank you for taking time for all of us to increase our understanding and how it relates to us.
Just when I thought it couldn't get any better Brother Muhlestein bore his testimony. I was so overwhelmed with the love God has for us and how He sent His Son to help us get back home to sit on a throne like Abraham. This episode will ring in my head and my heart for a long time. Thank you!
Thank you so much brother Tyler and brother Kerry for this presentation. It´s priceless.
I am so glad you included a guest speaker for lesson one and lesson two. He has a wealth of knowledge that he was willing to share me. I know that there many people than me watching this but it feels as if you are directly talking to me. I appreciated hearing testimony at the end.
This has been so powerful, so helpful and so rewarding. Thank you to all-three of these brothers for their time. I am most grateful!
WONDERFUL🏆🙏🙇♀️-& these principles((& pre-earth life-our God IS JUST!)…please listen to the end👌🙏Bro Muhlestein is a treasure ..I LOVE CFM!!
Thank you. I know it is True also by revelation to me as I sincerely study God reveals His Truths.
Thank you! This was totally awesome and inspiring. May we all follow in the footsteps of Abraham and ultimately receive all that God wants so badly to give us.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
I have been edified spiritually and academically. Thank you for what you presented and who you are in presenting it.
Wow! Quite impressive. I am far from having your expertises. I am just grateful to know that our Heavenly Father does all he can to bring us back to him, by sending His Son and sending prophets to guide us. Also, by sending wonderful teachers to help us understand the Scriptures. Thank you for all you do to help us out and for your love. Know that you are loved too! (watching from France).
Much appreciation for these fantastic episodes! Thank you for sharing your expertise and faithful understanding of the book of Abraham.
Amazing!!! Learned, as always, so much from Dr. Muhlestien. He opens up the understanding of the OldTestament and the Abrahamic Covenant so well. Thank you so much for having him on, it such a blessing to learn what he has conveyed to us. His testimony is powerful and uplifting hopeful! I love this program and look forward to listening and growing without each week.
I've enjoyed watching a couple of Bishop Muhlestein's talks recently, particularly a fireside message he presented to a stake. His spirit is clearly one of the noble and great ones and he has taught me wonderful things. Please thank him for me.
Wow the symbolic summary at the end is so powerful. Jesus is absolutely in the doctrine, in the text. Thank you.
I don't have the depth of learning you fellows have, but then I don't know that it would do me too much good. I know that what we have received comes from God, how it got here, isn't one of my top priorities. I love listening to how you can even relate the shapes of the figures to our journey back to God. I enjoy all your offerings on this years study. May the Lord keep blessing you and your families.
Thanks guys! Great video!
That was an amazing presentation but Brother Kerry Muhlestein spoke with such speed that I was unable to keep up with him!!!!
Thank you for this valuable information! History and context means so much and is vital as we ‘ponder’ inspired works.
I thoroughly enjoyed Part One and Part Two. So well presented. Thank you for being so willing to share knowledge/expertise with us. I also caught Brother Muhlestein on Follow Him, with Hank Smith and John Bytheway. I am also reading Let's Talk About the Book of Abraham. I feel I have a greater understanding of all facets of the Book of Abraham. I sincerely thank all three of you for your ongoing efforts to teach and uplift.
I'm grateful for these two episodes. Although I pursued the way of faith and asking God aspect in my 50years as a convert, this equips me to minister and lead others to endure in their covenants.
I love going over the Book of Abraham there is so much in there and love to see more insights. - Chad James
I love starting my day listening to these lessons. I appreciate you all so much for taking the time to for these. I always learn something new and feel better
I came back for more of book of abraham this part 2
So, so fascinating!!
God bless you guys!
Totally Amazing Wow! That was a brilliant presentation. Gosh, what a treat to have Bro Muhlestein's take & academic expertise presented to us in this video. I must say the book of Abraham has never been a book I spent alot of time with, mostly because I found it too hard to understand or try and grasp. Even all the times I looked at the facsimiles, I'd be like 'oh boy, this is over my head and looks like all the other Egyptian images I see on the history channel'. You know it's really nice to go through the facsimiles and the BOA and break it down. It was very interesting to hear how Joseph Smith acquired the papyrus, as well as hear about the revelations that came to him with the translations. Again, I see the same pattern of Heavenly Father schooling Abraham just like he did with Enoch. I also see a Father who is ready and willing to share all he has with his children from the presentations we've had so far. I love that the entire book is really about Abraham's relationship with God, as well as our relationship with God. Thank you BOM Central for putting this magnigicent presentation together ❤.
IQ…secular study-all learning-BUT!!! Light & TRUTH🔥….ASK GOD 🙏🙇♀️re-listen to Egyptologist Bro Mulestein!!?sooooooo GOOD
I like this info of Earth and myself and going forward in a nice way explained, just like Book of Mormon does
Thanks brothers are beautiful class thanks so much
Excellent work. I appreciate the combination of an academic perspective along with the personal revelatory opportunity that we all have been given through the Holy Ghost.
Wonderful information. Thank you!
"Up to his chin in the water but still thirsty" said Elder Maxwell. Your closing discussion reminded me of this.
Such a good episode with so much information…. I had to watch it for a second time
I can't believe I never knew the books of Moses and Abraham. I converted in 88
Thought I read book of Mormon twice but the year with the come follow me manual I felt it, saw the people in my mind they became people not story's, alma, Moroni,abinidi all brought me to tears I never had doubts but now.. anyway I struggled with D&C and thought pearl of great price was D&C. I've been effected. It's like seeing heavenly father as a individual, how loving, I could see the universe reading Moses and Abraham. I am amazed with what I've learned
Truly appreciate this episode
Thank you.
Thought you would find this interesting. My Great-great...etc. Grandmother, Philindia Merrick and her two remaining children lived with the Joseph and Emma Smith for a time after the Hauns Mill Massacre. Their home was a playground for the two children Fanny and George. Fanny's journal tells that she and George both were shown the mummy and Egyptian Papyrus and the seer stones. She testifies of them and is a witness of the greatness of Joseph and Emma. In the coming years, Philindia would remarry Paul Kohlford and Joseph would occasionally stay with them when he was in hiding where he taught Fanny to knit booties for her cat.
I really enjoy this program You give us practical information detailed yet simple thank you for all you do
This is fantastic
It feels like the facsimiles to Egyptians are like emojis to us. They're pictures that could mean different things to different people at different times.🙂👍
Thank you for all these information, but for me is very simple: Joseph translated by the Spirit, using the same tools that he used with Book of Mormon. By the way , he translated all the Gold Plates, so is very possible after all this work he certainly was very familiar with egypt language . This is my opinion. But honestly doesn't matter for me. He did it under inspiration of the Heaven and this is enough for me to know.
Excellent stuff! Love this channel.
Thank each one of you
And I love each of these J.S.T.Books
Have they been able to fix more books lately or are we in a stand still for now, since some of the paperwork were given away to different people and
Water damage,
No copies were made before given away?
This i don't understand, mine not to understand Right 😍 Blessed to have all we have.
Just like to know more about these beautiful people and books.
My friend has seen these latest Books with the copy of the writings of JST, and Translation
Great Gift for anyone who would can afford them ❤️
Awesome! I love it!❤
Love it;
My brain "popped" right at about 47 min or so and had to pause and yell out loud - light beams hurting my eyes.
With so many unanswered questions, why has no one used the "revelatory method" to get answers that the academic method has not answered?
I thought that a deep dive here was an excellent idea.
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So the bottom line is Joseph translates Abraham and no one living today can read the characters? Perhaps when the millennium starts the language will be revealed.
I just believe if Joseph said it it's true. Case closed.
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Thank you guys .God be with you .Here is what I say we are more than a physical body. If so where did our spirit come from. Why call Him Heavenly Father unless He is? I am only one and the Father of my children that does not mean that there cannot be more fathers. The same is true with our Heavenly Father he is only one and the Father of our spirit. That does not mean that there cannot be more fathers in heaven to. Is there really any limit to space?
Thinking the essence or purposes of life is growth and to become and to overcome..a baby Can grow up and become an adult when it cannot even wipe its own bottom. Why can't we grow up and become like our Heavenly Father. Is there really any limit to space? Why call Him Heavenly Father unless He is. DO know of any chiled that cannot grow up and become an adult. I say to some we do not have the right to try to limit our potential or the potential of others. We can become more Christ like .then I ask are you a Christian? And on and on we go .sometimes I say do you believe that our Heavenly Father had some of his children here on this side of the world.?
Why is Abraham only referred to as Abraham in the Book of Abraham and in the Bible he is referred a Abram and Abraham?
Read Abraham 1:16 “a”footnote, the original Joseph Smith translation was written as Abram
So... Where is the original facsimile #2? Was it stone, wood? Was it in the Chicago fire or no? Was it mostly damaged and a bunch filled in or is there a full original somewhere?
Awesome, love this. Do you by chance have the transcript somewhere? I'm going to incorporate this in tomorrow's sem lesson and would like to pull some things.
underneath the video, see the save button? to the right of that are three dots that if you click it will give you the option to "open transcript" which you can then copy.
@@taylorhalverson3052 perfect thank you!
You use the academics to get an idea and then you have to use inspiration and discernment and use how the gospel works with the Abraham translation to the Egyptian hieroglyphs to get a better understanding.
I have a sincere question:
I believe Joseph was a prophet. I believe the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham are the word of God. I get that we don’t know what “by the Gift and Power of God” means exactly… but, what ever that process entails, we all acknowledge that Jospeh didn’t know the source language. Certainly God knows that too. So, what’s the point of the Gold plates? Like physically… Joseph didn’t read them into English… so why not just have Moroni bury the Urim and Thumin without the plates that no one (including Joseph) needs for the translation anyway? That’s my question. Why all the trouble of protecting the plates (or buying and studying the papyrus) when they weren’t needed for “translation” in the first place?
Great question. I see it as an opportunity to exercise faith and belief. Furthermore, the amount of physical evidence for the plates created an immediacy and reality for Joseph Smith and his immediate translation supporters who needed something tangible in order to support the translation efforts.
"We need a little humility as academics..." Well isn't that the understatement of the century?! Just joking (partially). 😉
Tayler needs to talk and speak more.. Not a fair time given to him.... Why?
Thanks for asking. Our focus is to create great learning experiences even if that means that we don't have equal speaking time.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!