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Did you know that mines used to be called Torpedoes? That's actually what the famous phrase "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" comes from. It's referring to blasting through a minefield despite the risks and odds, not the naval "missiles" we think of in the modern day. Fun facts :D
I really expected him to mention Admiral Farragut and the Battle of Mobile Bay when he referenced mines being referred to as torpedoes during the Civil War.
And the early versions of the weapon were named after the Torpedo ray. An electric ray that buries itself in the sand. You don't know it's there until you step on it and get an electric shock.
@@watcherzero5256 G'day, Bangalore Torpedoes - long thin-walled Sheetmetal Tubes, full of Explosives, capable of being screwed together end to end, were essentially Spar Torpedoes built for use ON LAND, to enable Infantry to cut and clear a path through Defensive Barbed Wire, and/or Anti-Personnel Land Mines, by preparing and detonating a linear Explosion, to clear a path. I think of "Makes a Glorious Bang !" every time I read, or hear, "Bang (G)alore Torpedo.... It's a mental Ear-Worm. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
Items like land and sea mines are very significant items in warfare, but are seldom talked about in great detail. So you can be sure that you're not boring those interested!
Fun fact: Immanuel Nobel is the father of Alfred Nobel. Alfred would later invent Dynamite and after the abuse of the former in war, late in his life set up the Nobel Peace Prize.
Excellent overview! Thank you for following up on the multitude of comments inspired by your Zimmerit video. David Bushnell was also the inventor of the Turtle, a submarine used in the Revolutionary War. Never tick off an inventor, you might not see revenge coming. 😉
My grandfather served on a Canadian mine sweeper during WWII. Unfortunately he passed when I was 11 years old so I only remember a little bit about what he told me. I do know they were brave men. If things went wrong it got bad fast
For anyone that likes sci-fi: the anime Sword of the Stars has extensive use of mines/missiles that fire then lay dormant. They scan the area and re-launch themselves at ships. It's a good show for other reasons too. Goes into how sending colonists out will eventually have them diverge and become 'alien'.
Mines were used a few times in Space Battleship Yamato. One use of them caused a bit of a mess for Desslock when the Yamato brought a few to his flagship.
I know that I have heard from an old cold war mine sweeping crew that the nation's usually shared maps that displayed tger mined areas since the main reason to mining an area wasn't too sink ships but to deny access. Also, the Swedish marine museum has quite a lot of material on the topic of minesweepers and there for quite a lot of material on naval mines. The TLDR is that Swedens geographic made Sweden practically an island during WWII and only trading route was through the heavily mined Baltic sea. Also, if you contact the minesweepers museum club "M20" you can probably get a bunch of first hand references. There is still one in close to original condition that you can see if you just ask the club about it
havent seen the vid but i always taught mines where tethered at diffrent depths for subs and boats. the spikes where like primer caps touch the spikes it goes off ,i assume they just laid them out where they expected high traffic to be.
I get the most frustrated with mines because they are so indiscriminate. They just spread them out aimlessly in a area and it don't matter who or what happens to pass by... Plus they get left over from when the battles are done... So a lot of civilians get brutally injured or killed... It's just really frustrating
My mother is a victim of misinformation spread through generations as well. She heard the adage that a small, .22 revolver was the best personal defense weapon because the bullet ricochets around the body causing serval wound tracts. Everything I’ve seen on the subject proved otherwise and that it is quite literally the worst thing to depend your life to. It took her until she was 50 for someone to finally convince her that what she knew as fact was simply wrong. She trusted that knowledge so much as to put her life on the line over it. Thankfully today she carry’s either a .38 or .380.
One of my relatives house in Sunderland was destroyed in WW1 by a sea mine dropped from a Zeppelin. I remember hearing many pithy comments whenever German preciscion was mentioned.
You can tell how much you can trust a researcher by how clearly they admit their own mistakes. With the limpet mine apology, you have gained my admiration. Could say something about using Gilligans island as a source but I'll keep that for myself
You need to read wath the Japanese people thought about the "Black Ships", the american "diplomatic" fleet comanded by Commodore Perry. There a plenty of memoyrs, of high ranking elites, merchants and peasants. You can have a very good notion of theyr oppinion. Sure, it was a much older navy, but it could be a spaceship and the reactions would be the same.
The USS Cairo was the first ship ever sunk by a mine in war. It went down in 1862. The Confederates would go on to sink dozens more Union ships with mines of various types. The Confederates were ahead of the Union when it came to explosive devices, inventing landmines, time bombs, coal bombs etc.. “In devices for blowing up vessels the Confederates were far ahead of us, putting Yankee ingenuity to shame.” Union Admiral David Dixon Porter
That is the problem with the terminology... originally ALL naval "mines" were called Torpedo from the italian name of the electric ray as they likewise would "shock" a ship when hit, while a MINE was a tunnel dug on land to put a big explosive charge under enemy fortifications ala Battle of the Crater in the US Civil War or the big explosion at Messines in WW1. Then self propelling (or "locomotive") Torpedoes were invented in the 1860s (by Robert Whitehead inspired by some austrian experiments with clockwork driven "eels", his airpressure propelled screw was way better though) and were useable in the late 1870s (Russo Turkic war). Primitive pseudo mines on land were often called also Torpedo, at least in english speaking areas like the US... When the self propelling Torpedoes became more prevalent and landmines were introduced in the contact or tripwire versions we know to this day, the terminology shifted, by about the late 1900s it was established in the way we know today, although most "landmines" were still improvised ED.. real serial production of mines that we would recognize started in the late 20s after experiences with big wooden crates as anti tank mines in late WW1.
Random fact of the day: Germany has a construction that allows to alingment the magnetic fields of its ships to fit local magnetic background of the intended area of operation to fool magnetic mines
@@uberstrike3404 While usually true, there have been cases of US Civil War shells still killing people in this century. While it is unlikely, I still wouldn't take any chances.
Hi ConeOfArc, thanks for the video! I have a few feedbacks though: 1. I think the part about misconception was misplaced and/or too long. I think it's easier for casual viewers to learn about how mine works in general first and THEN learning about the misconception when we're talking about specifics related to it (e.g when talking about magnetic mines). Since in YT the first minutes are very important, I think placing a long section of clip without basic context (and also without the actual video) might not be the most welcoming way for people who are new to the topic. 2. You might cover this in the next video, but if possible I would love to learn about the overall effectiveness of naval mines in general. Like how many ships were sink due to mines in each large conflicts? How much risks involved such as mines destroying own or allied ships? What is the strategy to counter them? Looking forward to see the next part!
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Me, checking The Multiverse of RUclips: "Is this ConeOfDrach?"
Glad I'm not the only one who clicked this thinking it was a drach vid 😅
@@jarredingersoll2772 Now we need a two-hour special where Drach goes full engineer on amphibious tanks of WWII. To keep the balance.
Great mines think alike
@@JoshSees You win the Internet today.
I like this crossover
Did you know that mines used to be called Torpedoes? That's actually what the famous phrase "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" comes from. It's referring to blasting through a minefield despite the risks and odds, not the naval "missiles" we think of in the modern day. Fun facts :D
I really expected him to mention Admiral Farragut and the Battle of Mobile Bay when he referenced mines being referred to as torpedoes during the Civil War.
And the early versions of the weapon were named after the Torpedo ray. An electric ray that buries itself in the sand. You don't know it's there until you step on it and get an electric shock.
Damn the RUclips comments section! I was going to say this😪
And why the Bangalore was called the Bangalore Torpedo.
@@watcherzero5256
G'day,
Bangalore Torpedoes - long thin-walled Sheetmetal Tubes, full of Explosives, capable of being screwed together end to end, were essentially Spar Torpedoes built for use ON LAND, to enable Infantry to cut and clear a path through Defensive Barbed Wire, and/or Anti-Personnel Land Mines, by preparing and detonating a linear Explosion, to clear a path.
I think of
"Makes a Glorious Bang !"
every time I read, or hear,
"Bang (G)alore Torpedo....
It's a mental Ear-Worm.
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
Cone: "This video is too long, I have to break it into 2 parts!"
Drachinifel: "Hold my Rum"
Drach: Talks for 5 hours.
@@MrDmitriRavenoff 5 minute guide, more or less
@@Arbiter099 Drydock episodes long enough to overhaul, refuel, and fit out a CVN while they play
@@ReptilianLepton yet always ends disappointingly soon 😢
Items like land and sea mines are very significant items in warfare, but are seldom talked about in great detail. So you can be sure that you're not boring those interested!
Fun fact: Immanuel Nobel is the father of Alfred Nobel. Alfred would later invent Dynamite and after the abuse of the former in war, late in his life set up the Nobel Peace Prize.
Sea mines are also native to the sheds of farmers.
Lol is this a hot fuzz reference?
A major force in the 1905 Russo-Japanese War. However, what’s really impressive is the list of vessels lost to mines in WW 1 alone.
The real enemy of the 2nd Pacific fleet was the Kampchatka.
@@kevinsullivan3448 Kamchakta: *sees an Fishingboat*
*shoots at it*
Fisher: *realizes he's under attack after an half-hour* "Are you drunk?"
Watching this stellar showcase of minesweeper I can deduce that we are dealing with a true historian.
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!
-David Farragut
*Insert a Monitor-class warship sinking.*
Excellent overview! Thank you for following up on the multitude of comments inspired by your Zimmerit video.
David Bushnell was also the inventor of the Turtle, a submarine used in the Revolutionary War. Never tick off an inventor, you might not see revenge coming. 😉
4:43 It hurts to see how slow the Minesweeper gameplay is.
And how bad the placement of the flags are
he got the second flag wrong ...
half of the flags are wrong too. This physically hurts to watch, and I legitimately cannot figure out how he lasted that long.
My grandfather served on a Canadian mine sweeper during WWII. Unfortunately he passed when I was 11 years old so I only remember a little bit about what he told me. I do know they were brave men. If things went wrong it got bad fast
The best part about mines is how cheap they can be. After all, how many mines does it take to make a minefield? None, all you need is a press release.
Imagine if you were just fishing for sardines and suddenly your boat hits a 500 kilogram magnetic naval mine
For anyone that likes sci-fi: the anime Sword of the Stars has extensive use of mines/missiles that fire then lay dormant. They scan the area and re-launch themselves at ships.
It's a good show for other reasons too. Goes into how sending colonists out will eventually have them diverge and become 'alien'.
cant find it
@@malnutritionboy I think they mean Crest of the Stars and its sequel Banner of the Stars. Sword of the Stars was a videogame.
Mines were used a few times in Space Battleship Yamato. One use of them caused a bit of a mess for Desslock when the Yamato brought a few to his flagship.
A lot of the modern American mines are literally torpedoes that rest on the floor and then fire when a ship is detected. They can even move around.
Yes, we'll talk about those in the next part.
They were called torpedoes before, so, in a sense, it just came full circle...
Hurrah for this video'. Per usual, this is a compact and useful bit of information. Thank you
I know that I have heard from an old cold war mine sweeping crew that the nation's usually shared maps that displayed tger mined areas since the main reason to mining an area wasn't too sink ships but to deny access.
Also, the Swedish marine museum has quite a lot of material on the topic of minesweepers and there for quite a lot of material on naval mines. The TLDR is that Swedens geographic made Sweden practically an island during WWII and only trading route was through the heavily mined Baltic sea. Also, if you contact the minesweepers museum club "M20" you can probably get a bunch of first hand references. There is still one in close to original condition that you can see if you just ask the club about it
When I was very little I thought those spikes/horns are for stabbing into the bottom of the ship which makes the ship go "ouchie!" and go home crying.
Naval mines are excellent area denial weapons for sea.
Thank you for being so detailed because no other RUclips video I see features earlier mines that uses acid ampules. Great job my friend
that minesweeper clip triggered not just a mine but also triggered me
Extra points if you go into the difference between “de-perming” and “de-gaussing”. They are both required but no one ever talks about de-perming.
havent seen the vid but i always taught mines where tethered at diffrent depths for subs and boats. the spikes where like primer caps touch the spikes it goes off ,i assume they just laid them out where they expected high traffic to be.
Oh no I stumbled upon a premiere hoping it was released
14:00 I love the fact Sargent majors are swimming around a mine
that pun made by Oxcart on 3:18 made me straight up almost close out RUclips
Man this is very interesting :D
Can't wait for part 2
You should really do more sails and salvos, these are really good
That game of minesweeper was straight up infuriating with those misplaced flags lmao
I get the most frustrated with mines because they are so indiscriminate. They just spread them out aimlessly in a area and it don't matter who or what happens to pass by... Plus they get left over from when the battles are done... So a lot of civilians get brutally injured or killed... It's just really frustrating
I agree. The fact that they are indiscriminate is what I find to be so objectionable.
Thats why the development of mines that become inert after a period of time is interesting. Humans are gross.
The Minesweeper footage is pure pain, god please. Marking two flags beside a one.
This is exactly the information I was looking for thank you!
My mother is a victim of misinformation spread through generations as well. She heard the adage that a small, .22 revolver was the best personal defense weapon because the bullet ricochets around the body causing serval wound tracts. Everything I’ve seen on the subject proved otherwise and that it is quite literally the worst thing to depend your life to. It took her until she was 50 for someone to finally convince her that what she knew as fact was simply wrong. She trusted that knowledge so much as to put her life on the line over it. Thankfully today she carry’s either a .38 or .380.
I do not carry a gun because nobody else is carrying one.
3:17 lmfao that pun, I love that you included that in as a misconception
One of my relatives house in Sunderland was destroyed in WW1 by a sea mine dropped from a Zeppelin. I remember hearing many pithy comments whenever German preciscion was mentioned.
Ya know, it's a shame that you don't get more attention. Your naming sense is impeccable.
The most well known mine is the one that the seagulls in finding nemo keep talking about.
You can tell how much you can trust a researcher by how clearly they admit their own mistakes. With the limpet mine apology, you have gained my admiration. Could say something about using Gilligans island as a source but I'll keep that for myself
I'm not saying I used it as a source, just that the description in it may have caused my confusion without me realizing.
BaaaaLOOP! Floaty float! I'm a mine, I'm a mine, What a happy time to be a mine! Ohhhh, a new friend! Hello!
At times I imagine what the ancients would think if they saw our modern ships...
You need to read wath the Japanese people thought about the "Black Ships", the american "diplomatic" fleet comanded by Commodore Perry.
There a plenty of memoyrs, of high ranking elites, merchants and peasants.
You can have a very good notion of theyr oppinion.
Sure, it was a much older navy, but it could be a spaceship and the reactions would be the same.
"Hey Smithers...These mines seem unsportsmanlike".
"Sir, are we winning the battle"?
"Yes, Smithers".
"Seems fine to me, Sir".
"Carry on, Smithers".
Damn I remember when cone of arc had 1 sail and salvos vid
yes!!! this series hasn't been abandoned!
Excellent Gilligan's Island reference!
7:22 There was also too great a risk of them hitting a friendly ship.
Loved the video Arc, but the Minesweeper triggered me lol.
Once again i ask for anything you know about the 'midgardschlange' Mole Tank project
Pretty good video, thanks for sharing
The USS Cairo was the first ship ever sunk by a mine in war. It went down in 1862. The Confederates would go on to sink dozens more Union ships with mines of various types. The Confederates were ahead of the Union when it came to explosive devices, inventing landmines, time bombs, coal bombs etc..
“In devices for blowing up vessels the Confederates were far ahead of us, putting Yankee ingenuity to shame.”
Union Admiral David Dixon Porter
That was my favorite Gillian’s episode.
I think my only doubt was how submarines launch these mines, they surface or do it underwater?
Watching the minesweeper game play is hurting meeeee
I want those Cone stickers
This was really cool
can't wait for part 2!
Mines are the glitter of warfare.
Love this series!
His minesweeper skills have got me triggered. What are you doing!?!?!
Great topic I was just thinking about.
Law of war: if you are in a fair fight with you enemy, then one of you has really f’ed up
fantastic video, I can't wait for the next!
Great Topic!
I always thought the spines on sea mines were contact fuses, ship sails over, touches it and boom.
That is the problem with the terminology... originally ALL naval "mines" were called Torpedo from the italian name of the electric ray as they likewise would "shock" a ship when hit, while a MINE was a tunnel dug on land to put a big explosive charge under enemy fortifications ala Battle of the Crater in the US Civil War or the big explosion at Messines in WW1.
Then self propelling (or "locomotive") Torpedoes were invented in the 1860s (by Robert Whitehead inspired by some austrian experiments with clockwork driven "eels", his airpressure propelled screw was way better though) and were useable in the late 1870s (Russo Turkic war). Primitive pseudo mines on land were often called also Torpedo, at least in english speaking areas like the US...
When the self propelling Torpedoes became more prevalent and landmines were introduced in the contact or tripwire versions we know to this day, the terminology shifted, by about the late 1900s it was established in the way we know today, although most "landmines" were still improvised ED.. real serial production of mines that we would recognize started in the late 20s after experiences with big wooden crates as anti tank mines in late WW1.
Random fact of the day: Germany has a construction that allows to alingment the magnetic fields of its ships to fit local magnetic background of the intended area of operation to fool magnetic mines
UK and US did this before them. Wehraboo virgin.
If you made underwater action animation in early 00", you had to include some old ww2 mine action
More properly defined as Magnetic Influence mines.
That is covered more in the next part when we discuss the types of mines in more detail.
This channel is SoOoOO goooooood
Britannic , Titanic sister Ship Sunk by mines
Yes ukraine has used mines extensively to prevent amphibious landing and freedom of navigation off its coastline
Also ruSSia is releasing old mins so they go towards Turkey and Bulgaria
@@00-Dima also russia used all the milk and didnt buy more, and ate the last piece of garlic bread
Great video, as usual!
There also the moral issues related to use of mines.
Bring back the extra spicy barrels
Great job1
Can a land mine from the 1800 still be active today?
I don't know, but there are still live explosives from WWI, & II that are still being found across the world, especially in the UK, and Germany.
Technically yes, but most likely not due to degradation over the centurys
Powder based explosives don't keep well over long times
@@uberstrike3404 While usually true, there have been cases of US Civil War shells still killing people in this century. While it is unlikely, I still wouldn't take any chances.
pls make morr naval comtents ^^
cool video bro
Hi ConeOfArc, thanks for the video! I have a few feedbacks though:
1. I think the part about misconception was misplaced and/or too long. I think it's easier for casual viewers to learn about how mine works in general first and THEN learning about the misconception when we're talking about specifics related to it (e.g when talking about magnetic mines). Since in YT the first minutes are very important, I think placing a long section of clip without basic context (and also without the actual video) might not be the most welcoming way for people who are new to the topic.
2. You might cover this in the next video, but if possible I would love to learn about the overall effectiveness of naval mines in general. Like how many ships were sink due to mines in each large conflicts? How much risks involved such as mines destroying own or allied ships? What is the strategy to counter them?
Looking forward to see the next part!
The best use of a naval mine has been watching serbian forces roll one down a hill into an enemy position.
He appears to be moving from land-based tanks to floaty tanks
7:30 every salty kid when their ass got kick
"My main goal is to blow up"
- Sea mines, probably
Thank you.
You could say that these guys are mining their own business
Didnt the Germans do the shell on stick in their beach defenses?
Great video, but my biggest takeaway is that you don't know how to play minesweeper very well ;p
I would have spelt it "Sails and Salvoes" but then again Im a picky bugger.
Interesting history.
At 7:00 "This is similar to most modern mines, as they most commonly have a contact fuse" - I'm sorry, that's incorrect.
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This'll be good!
0:20 HAHA! SWEDEN! MY COUNTRY!
Talk about the panzer front again
Wow
"unlike a submarine, however, these hidden predators do not chose their prey but rather attack indiscriminately."
1915 Germany: 👉👈
Yo
Hello there
It's a floaterrrrr
Whoever was playing the minesweeper game. He sucks, or wasn't playing seriously.