Man, remember OG was the favorites in TI6 but left the stadium with a tragic lost from an underdog team (TNC) His top tier mid that he discovered left him (Miracle) His team got disqualified from DPC He was left by his girlfriend for some CSGO player His TI winner offlaner that he just got, also left him (s4) His best support left him (Cr1t) His 10 year long bestfriend left him because he believe n0tail “aint good enough” (Fly) He was forced to resign from the Super Major He had 3 weeks till TI8 and had to make a team from scraps. He had to play open qualifiers with an inexperienced mid player, and an “unpracticed” carry player They won Open Qualifiers. Won Regional Qualifiers. Won Group Stage. Won TI8, now you’re looking at a 2 time champion, and the highest earner in Dota 2 history. Notail I followed your story. You really deserved it. And im not crying.
@@bleepbloop232 wtf you saying it was clearly said in Redbull Gaming's video that Miracle also left seeing everyone leaving thinking he will have a better spot. He was never kicked
Highlights: 4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing 10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1 11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson 18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh 20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback 21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage 21:46 Kuro trying to run lol 24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax" 27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?" 31:56 "How did we lose this game?" 35:16 Ember cinematic 37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense 39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done" 40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana 43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore" 47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide 48:41 Invis tiny cinematic 52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost 53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items 1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback 1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO" 1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him 1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels. 1:20:42 Kuro's plan 1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect
@@jannestefanoobski3604 honestly its mostly weehaa that doesnt have history with them I mean Notail and Kuro were there on dotas first day they were actually on team secret way back then along with Puppey, you also have miracle who first joined OG before liquid and ceb was there coach, you have jerax there too and he's friends with mc and gh so yeah feels like weehaa is an outsider ahaahhaa
i feel like jerax is close to his ex-liquid teammates, i already knew he and matu still close, but i wasnt sure jerax and mindcontrol would be, due to how mindcontrol tilted so hard.
My thoughts exactly, for me watching as both a Liquid and OG fan I felt like MC had the hardest time during the games, but his reaction here proves he overcame that and hopefully both teams will meet again in TI 10
I have mad respect for mindcontrol. Seriously amazed at his sportmanship. This is not something easy for him to watch and despite that, he was able to joke around with everyone, even OG.
he already won a TI that's why it is easy for him to control his emotions, unlike w33 who haven't experienced winning TI. When you get what you dreamed off, you are starting to lose passion on that thing because you already have it, no more motivation, something like that.
I remember Miracle's Player Profile when he joined Liquid and Kuro talked about his "carefree nature". This is such an amazing quality to have! It takes the drama off of everything, it makes it so easier to keep moving forward...Damn I wish I were like that!
MC is actually hands down the most adorable Dota 2 player in the entire scene. I am not even kidding, the way he handles his fails or his mistakes are so wholesome, how he is laughing with OG and the way he just jokes around with Jerax all the time, is a really warm reaction
1:20:00 "This makes you a legend, not the TI before, not the majors." It's so amazing to see how much deep respect Kuro (and to the extent, these two teams) have with N0tail. He KNEW it could have been him, and instead of rewinding and regretting over and over again, he fully accepted it and graced in defeat, and congratulate N0tail instead. In terms of mental fortitude, these two is probably the best players currently performing, maybe even ever.
17:52 -> MC asking Jerax about his play. Did the life drain stopped auto or Jerax stopped it and Jerax replies he stopped it to decrip Spectre (coz clearly meepo was still killing Spec thru the heal. Thinking so fast in such a high pressure situation and MC always sees the small things that made the difference in a fight Game 4 Jerax Highlights - Understanding the BIG picture: 1:07:46 -> Liquid pumped; Ceb/Notail: this is crazy; Jerax -> This is awful for them; they wasting their time. Keep farming Ana (septer for IO) 1:08:45 -> Ceb/Notail: They going rosh, what do we do? Can we fight it?; Jerax -> Do we care about Rosh guys? We dont give a shit about rosh this game 1:09:16-> Liquid - yay we got rosh; Jerax -> We have absolutely free game on our cores guys. This is perfect whats happening 1:10:20-> Jerax initiates on Gh with a toss play and Kuroky panic uses mek and hand of god at same time -> team wipe Just memeing Jerax! Topson Drafting - 1:02:20: Timber is pretty good right? They have zero damage. Ceb: then we have no stuns. Topson: They gonna run at us anyway, does it matter? They are on a huge timer (to finish game b4 IO ahgs). Notail -> Oh shit he's right. Picks timber!! This team is so good! Such good memories especially in TI9. Will miss this brand of OG
Yeah, that Topson moment and him pointing out that Liquid only have physical damage in game 3, which arguably made OG win, really highlights how he's no longer a rookie. Compare him at TI8 where his only job in draft is to tell Ceb and Notail what hero he wants most. That's pretty badass.
Great analysis. Everyone in OG 2019 shows a tremendous understanding of the game, esp. Jerax, Topson and Ana, even under the extreme heat of the battle.
They have such good sportsmanship, even at the end OG felt bad for liquid because they know that feeling too well. (Except for topson of course, dude never lost)
Highlights:Highlights: 4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing 10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1 11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson 18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh 20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback 21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage 21:46 Kuro trying to run lol 24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax" 27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?" 31:56 "How did we lose this game?" 35:16 Ember cinematic 37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense 39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done" 40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana 43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore" 47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide 48:41 Invis tiny cinematic 52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost 53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items 1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback 1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO" 1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him 1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels. 1:20:42 Kuro's plan 1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect 4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing 10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1 11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson 18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh 20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback 21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage 21:46 Kuro trying to run lol 24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax" 27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?" 31:56 "How did we lose this game?" 35:16 Ember cinematic 37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense 39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done" 40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana 43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore" 47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide 48:41 Invis tiny cinematic 52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost 53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items 1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback 1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO" 1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him 1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels. 1:20:42 Kuro's plan 1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect
I am sure he can speak English well enough, but he quite a typical Finnish guy :) I mean look at Matu, he is quite similar... Jerax is more talkative than Finns on average and a fair bit more open.
This is the most chill finals I've seen, like both teams dont let the pressure get to them at the beginning. Shows they have a very level head even at the most precarious situations
i love how ana probably is now in a net cafe with his 4k mmr friends having fun playing dota, im genuinly happy for that guy, he seems so fragile but yet so powerful. Happy break Ana !
@Mohammad Nadeem At that time stamp the Liquid manager, almany-, hands w33 a red object. I believe it's a lighter. Jerax asks what it is and MC doesn't know what he's talking about. Jerax says "the red thing" and MC thinks he said "Wraith King."
1:19:38 - 1:24:02 Ceb to Notail :"Dude you are not belive to yourself ? you are 2 Time TI winner. Never do this to yourself again, man. You are the absolute best man.Never doubt yourself again" Notail :"Yeah remind me later this year" Ceb: "We all do it. I'll be there and when it's my turn you will be there" Notail : *tearing up after fly leaves him, maybe notail get hit so hard about that but glad ceb was there for him.
1:16:43 Man, I couldn't watch it. :(( From this point, Notail realize that he gonna miss or already missed that moment so much, because he will never be able to step into TI stage again with all of his friends (same line up). He tried so hard to hide those feelings, but ended up in tears. Their friendship is not ended, but surely there's something huge that've been missing there. Hhh, I'm gonna miss this complete line up so much. Goodluck for the new line up, Notail & OG. 🌻🌻🌻
I really love how genuinely friendly they are with each other. Only sad thing about this is w33's reactions. The losses really got to him and he's so hard on himself.
Liquid: You’re the best captain. Kuro: OG’s the best. So much respect for Kuro and Liquid. So happy to see OG win back-to-back TIs, yet so sad to see Liquid in their emotions.
First off, I think it's incredible the amount of success N0tail has had despite being such a tremendously emotional person. I can understand why people gravitate towards him - that kind of genuine compassion and charisma are hard to find. I hope he never retires. And secondly, Topson didn't even blink for over an hour but you could tell he was trying REALLY hard not to smile when the casters were gushing over his Diffu Gyro build
Topson: Pick me, pick me Pugna Notail: Picks Pugna* MC: I wanna play Furion Kuroky: Picks Omniknight* Kuroky: Play like Ceb Caster: Liquid had nothing! they have NOTHING!
When Kuro started to become teary-eyed during team fights in game 4 that he knew they're already losing, and almost let it loose when he called the game, such a heartbreaking scene.
1:19:53, i wanna cry too, i don't know if the reason of notail tearing up is because he is happy for remembering winning TI or because that will be the last moment that he can play with ana, jerax, and ceb in TI, damn, i will miss the old OG, but also good luck for the new roster of OG. Hoping for 3 time champion!
@@firmanthered we see few moments of truly happiness are coming one by one: first is the father-son thing, and then Ceb words next. it's hard to resist the tears in such moments.
1:19:40 When notail and ceb hug each other nearing the end, notail's reaction is getting teary eyed and so does ceb 🥺😭shows how much they care for each other
@@gorgit Jerax retired, Ceb Step down on OG's Roster and Ana is still on vacation. The new OG roster are consisted of MidOne, Sumail, Saksa, Notail and Topson.
@@jerbjerbjerb5912 I'm not really complaining about them retiring im just telling him that jerax and ceb retired, although i would have loved it if they won 3 TI and made a Dynasty.
These two teams sitting there together, watching together, laughing together, crying together. Imagine that in any other sport. Dota2 is something special man.
W33 had so much potential, he played godlike w33 mepo is auto win, much like anna IO/spectre. He lost twice in the finals. And he isn't even respected. His story always makes me cry. I genuinely feel for him.
His reaction to it did not correlate at all. He was like "OG's the best" then his reaction rejected his words like "bruh, u guys played the most broken hero in that patch"
w33's reaction when he said that "atleast you guys won ti" he wants to cry. Feels 💔 for him. Hoping time will come that he could claim the aegis someday.
Imagine the stress and exhaustion from playing lower bracket finals and TI Finals in the same day, that's tough. That's why I always respect liquid for surviving through all that since TI 7. Love both teams ✊
say that shit to OG who played non-stop games in TI8 just a few months after their roster was broken. Stress and exhaustion is no excuse, both teams had their fair share of that. Nigma (Liquid) and OG are strong teams. The latter just had a better read in drafting + raw individual skills. When I was watching TI9 Grand final, it wasn't Topson or Ana I noticed. It was the godlike plays of Jerax. That guy is legend!
Topson is absolutely mvp of ti9 grand final. His play was insane. Good Tiny perfomance in game 1. Monkey king in game 2 that make w33 afraid to against that hero in game 3. Pugna in game 3 that dominating the game. And diffusal gyro in game 4 that make miracle useless
1:13:40 - 1:22:10 Man. Imagine watching your self in a movie making history with your bestfriend. I totally felt Ceb's emotion there. He deserve that moment. A total package captain for any sport I guess.
I'm so curious as to why Ana instantly peaces out after TI, he's like the secret character summon that instantly wins you the game and disappears on a long cooldown.
Hi it's 2022 and going back to what I view as a "OG greatest hits" and instead seeing two teams realizing accomplishments and failures is amazing. The love between Kuro and N0Tail is remarkable
Kuro has the strongest dad energy in this. Seeing him still being there for his players, supporting N0Tail when he gets emotional... He knows that TI isn't just about 1 team winning, it's all the players living their dreams on the biggest stage. His respect for everyone is beautiful.
It should be like this in gaming community..winning and losing are normal.. Especially when in grand final..Og been there.. Liquid been there.. So next time.. Play hard.. Get a good strategy..then u will win
@@tacibana88 total disrespect though from kuro and w33 when watching game 2 they were discussing that they loss because of the exhaustion and that's kinda shitty lol they said they were winning game 2 I guess they forgot how OG run them over from the very start of game 2 to 4
@@arunprakash4792 nah not that hahaha I mean while they were watching true sight, kuro and w33 are making comments and excuses of how they were so tired before the game and it's a total disrespectful thing to do, they were like discrediting OGs win, you know what I'm saying ? It's not even about the true sight anymore it's when they were watching
Man, remember OG was the favorites in TI6 but left the stadium with a tragic lost from an underdog team (TNC)
His top tier mid that he discovered left him (Miracle)
His team got disqualified from DPC
He was left by his girlfriend for some CSGO player
His TI winner offlaner that he just got, also left him (s4)
His best support left him (Cr1t)
His 10 year long bestfriend left him because he believe n0tail “aint good enough” (Fly)
He was forced to resign from the Super Major
He had 3 weeks till TI8 and had to make a team from scraps.
He had to play open qualifiers with an inexperienced mid player, and an “unpracticed” carry player
They won Open Qualifiers.
Won Regional Qualifiers.
Won Group Stage.
Won TI8, now you’re looking at a 2 time champion, and the highest earner in Dota 2 history.
Notail I followed your story. You really deserved it. And im not crying.
Amen
Uhhh, OG actually kicked Miracle, he did not left because he wanted lol
@@bleepbloop232 no he did left because he thought he can do more better that those so he left
@@permanar_ Wtf are you talking about man, he got kicked because he played so bad in ti6
@@bleepbloop232 wtf you saying it was clearly said in Redbull Gaming's video that Miracle also left seeing everyone leaving thinking he will have a better spot. He was never kicked
Highlights:
4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing
10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1
11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson
18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh
20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback
21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage
21:46 Kuro trying to run lol
24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax"
27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?"
31:56 "How did we lose this game?"
35:16 Ember cinematic
37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense
39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done"
40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana
43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore"
47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide
48:41 Invis tiny cinematic
52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost
53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items
1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback
1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO"
1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him
1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels.
1:20:42 Kuro's plan
1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect
You're such a cool guy
Kuroky reaction when he himself said that OG's the best! Is fuckin pathetic. What a pathetic excuse of a human being
Go up. Much needed
Dude you forgot 14:10
Ty
MC just laughing at his mistakes is just so wholesome. Such a likeable guy
Anton Dizon just a fukin’ nazi
@@nnao_O.o what do you mean?
Yeah... MC I can see he's a good guy 😁
that buyback and go rosh moment xD
@@nnao_O.o but he has already apologized for it. Let's not eliminate changes for the better when people make mistakes.
GH : "There's always next year"
Kuro : "No it's this year"
Corona : You know what's cooking? Boom!
A bat is what's cooking.
@@gggamer2738 no, they don't cook🤣
@@gegewillplayed5110 bro.
they didn't even qualify FeelsBadMan
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Jerax and MC complimenting each other is a highest form of respect and sportsmanship
Jerax was on liquid before joining OG so all of them our friends
@@lamberthdcreator and Miracle was on OG
The rest was being an asshole
@@jannestefanoobski3604 honestly its mostly weehaa that doesnt have history with them I mean Notail and Kuro were there on dotas first day they were actually on team secret way back then along with Puppey, you also have miracle who first joined OG before liquid and ceb was there coach, you have jerax there too and he's friends with mc and gh so yeah
feels like weehaa is an outsider ahaahhaa
@@justinroy3769 lol so you think i dont know that? 😂
I love how MC is laughing at his mistakes and really chilling with Jerax and Ceb
i feel like jerax is close to his ex-liquid teammates, i already knew he and matu still close, but i wasnt sure jerax and mindcontrol would be, due to how mindcontrol tilted so hard.
Mc is dealing with this so good even it must suck so much to watch these games again and being filmed.
ikr. he seems like a fun guy, always laughing. i like dat
My thoughts exactly, for me watching as both a Liquid and OG fan I felt like MC had the hardest time during the games, but his reaction here proves he overcame that and hopefully both teams will meet again in TI 10
19:54 Miracle is so toxic. What a boring personality.
next: *Ana reacts alone to True sight 2019*
don't forget True Sight 2018 ... he will do True Sight marathon
DailyVids cause he’s so Mysterious
Likely reason is he's back in school
@DailyVids Australia is far
also
Ana reacts to player reactions watching true sight
I have mad respect for mindcontrol. Seriously amazed at his sportmanship. This is not something easy for him to watch and despite that, he was able to joke around with everyone, even OG.
he already won a TI that's why it is easy for him to control his emotions, unlike w33 who haven't experienced winning TI. When you get what you dreamed off, you are starting to lose passion on that thing because you already have it, no more motivation, something like that.
"What do we do now ?"
"Let's eat I guess."
The best interaction in the history of e-sports.
Loss is just a lesson, nothing more.
I remember Miracle's Player Profile when he joined Liquid and Kuro talked about his "carefree nature". This is such an amazing quality to have! It takes the drama off of everything, it makes it so easier to keep moving forward...Damn I wish I were like that!
Miracle: Let's eat I guess
GH: No, what do we DO NOW?
Miracle: oh
*few months later
rebrand liquid to nigma
@@LeeTheSun1 They did not rebrand liquid to nigma. The team left Liquid and formed their own team.
@@43prateek *org
43prateek Why did they leave Liquid??
OG: We will slay them with respect
Topson: Spraying "Loser"
rofl, so true
what time exactly?
@@Mike-om9bi all the time
@@Mike-om9bi 47:33
dota is mind game dude, thats for destroy liquid mentality, notail said that.
MC is actually hands down the most adorable Dota 2 player in the entire scene. I am not even kidding, the way he handles his fails or his mistakes are so wholesome, how he is laughing with OG and the way he just jokes around with Jerax all the time, is a really warm reaction
@stargazer _099 Yes, but Topias and Ana seem to get along very very well though
@@RainsKisaragi Topias and Ana have very similar play styles thats why
@stargazer _099 Team Liquid and OG are connected each other except Topias.
Yeah same thoughts for me MC is so adorable. I hated it when kuro said please play like ceb omni, like damn MC wasn’t feeling good that time.
GH too. They're two of the most likeable pro players in dota2.
OG / Liquid: jokes, laughs
Topson and Miracle: You Laugh You Lose
Topson laughed plenty...
Miracle laughs at 58:41
Topson cracks a smile every time they show ana reactions. P cute
Ceb: Slay them with respect.
OG: *Dives fountain.*
Haha
"Why did we lose this game we were doing so good what happened" - said every team against OG lmao
Yooo
LOSER SPRAY INTENSIFIES
ALSO THE CHATWHEEL
Before a match
Normal teams: lntense strategizing
OG: "So what chat wheel sounds are we using"
tell me how can one not love this team
I think that IS part of the strategy. It's Ceb saying "it's just time for another game of Dota" to keep everybody loose.
Did you not see the part where they were discussing strats and they literally kicked the camera guy out?
@@BigWaterDrinker ahhh so you're the guy who kills a good joke by applying logic right?
"well, to start off ofc lakad matatang as it is given"
everyone : having a good time movie laugh here and there
topson & miracle : *YoU LAuGh yoU LoSe*
*Edit : DAMN SON I GOT 6K ??? you guys awesome!!!
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@TryZoid but miracle is a carry player at nigma right? xD
skrrata du, florrar du
Wuakakakakakaka
they are kind of similar and really different in their own ways at the same time
I love these two teams. They're so humble towards each other. Laughing, joking, drinking. Chilling out. You love to see it.
Highlights:
Topson sitting perfectly still for 1 hour 24 minutes and 2 seconds.
And notail is beside him dying from laughing 😂
Lvl 99 Focus pro players skill
im sure that's just a mannequin they brought to replace real topson
Topson got pissed when w33 said he wont do shit HAHAHAHAHA
@@11proga-oportokennethashle71 which minutes?
1:20:00
"This makes you a legend, not the TI before, not the majors."
It's so amazing to see how much deep respect Kuro (and to the extent, these two teams) have with N0tail. He KNEW it could have been him, and instead of rewinding and regretting over and over again, he fully accepted it and graced in defeat, and congratulate N0tail instead. In terms of mental fortitude, these two is probably the best players currently performing, maybe even ever.
100%
At the start, kuro said this was a pure grandfinal, it could go eitherway, and if he couldn't get the aegis, he wants notail to have it.
The Kuro has always been a total class act, same as N0tail. Top dudes in the game.
Hope they win this year
@@EkBoon Also Kuro: "Yeah right" lul
Everyone: Man, the feeling of losing at TI really sucks. I mean we all experienced it.
TOPSON: Can't relate
TOPSON : tsk...
TOPSON : Stop talkin' to me you loser
LMAO!!!😆😆
But TI10 hi Topson
topson : pftt
Why does "everyone" sounds like w33
Ceb's loyalty to Notail is priceless
17:52 -> MC asking Jerax about his play. Did the life drain stopped auto or Jerax stopped it and Jerax replies he stopped it to decrip Spectre (coz clearly meepo was still killing Spec thru the heal. Thinking so fast in such a high pressure situation and MC always sees the small things that made the difference in a fight
Game 4 Jerax Highlights - Understanding the BIG picture:
1:07:46 -> Liquid pumped; Ceb/Notail: this is crazy; Jerax -> This is awful for them; they wasting their time. Keep farming Ana (septer for IO)
1:08:45 -> Ceb/Notail: They going rosh, what do we do? Can we fight it?; Jerax -> Do we care about Rosh guys? We dont give a shit about rosh this game
1:09:16-> Liquid - yay we got rosh; Jerax -> We have absolutely free game on our cores guys. This is perfect whats happening
1:10:20-> Jerax initiates on Gh with a toss play and Kuroky panic uses mek and hand of god at same time -> team wipe
Just memeing Jerax!
Topson Drafting - 1:02:20: Timber is pretty good right? They have zero damage. Ceb: then we have no stuns. Topson: They gonna run at us anyway, does it matter? They are on a huge timer (to finish game b4 IO ahgs). Notail -> Oh shit he's right. Picks timber!!
This team is so good! Such good memories especially in TI9. Will miss this brand of OG
Yeah, that Topson moment and him pointing out that Liquid only have physical damage in game 3, which arguably made OG win, really highlights how he's no longer a rookie. Compare him at TI8 where his only job in draft is to tell Ceb and Notail what hero he wants most. That's pretty badass.
Wow thanks for the link, that tiny toss by Jerax to GH to tower is some nasty IQ play by Jerax! wow, just wow
Great analysis. Everyone in OG 2019 shows a tremendous understanding of the game, esp. Jerax, Topson and Ana, even under the extreme heat of the battle.
Yeah jerax made some pretty epic calls. His read on situations and positioning is godlike
thanks for pointing all these out!
Jerax and Mind Control just seems like the 2 coolest guys. Zero ego, just laughing and having a ball.
The amount of sportsmanship almost made my ankles buckle in.
They have such good sportsmanship, even at the end OG felt bad for liquid because they know that feeling too well. (Except for topson of course, dude never lost)
But he is losing at hell now
@@KoHtet-gx5vu i think he is talking about losing ti.
@@mcky7531 he will lose this time not og hater tho
@@KoHtet-gx5vu he aint gon loose ti if he’s not qualify
He will. Saksa's POS4 doesn't really compliment Topson's aggressive mid.
Highlights:Highlights:
4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing
10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1
11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson
18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh
20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback
21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage
21:46 Kuro trying to run lol
24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax"
27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?"
31:56 "How did we lose this game?"
35:16 Ember cinematic
37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense
39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done"
40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana
43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore"
47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide
48:41 Invis tiny cinematic
52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost
53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items
1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback
1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO"
1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him
1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels.
1:20:42 Kuro's plan
1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect
4:33 Kuro 'facepalming' when Liquid is singing
10:35 Notail giving away First blood at game 1
11:28 Miracle almost killing Topson
18:12 Mind Control reaction to his dieback at Rosh
20:05 Notail reacting to him telling ana not to buyback
21:25 "Listen to Kuro" and ana getting hit by Ravage
21:46 Kuro trying to run lol
24:45 "He's a good player" to "Fuck you Jerax"
27:50 "Can you fucking chill!?"
31:56 "How did we lose this game?"
35:16 Ember cinematic
37:45 Kuro and GH's last ditch defense
39:29/39:38 "MC is mentally done"
40:56 "They're monkeys" to Notail getting a banana
43:44 "They won't do Tide TA anymore"
47:46 MC talking about topson and 'griefing' Tide
48:41 Invis tiny cinematic
52:35 Kuro admitting they know they already lost
53:55 W33 messed up from the Pugna Ward and MC selling items
1:01:50 Miracle reacting to Liquid talking about bristleback
1:15:19 "Shouldn't give them fucking IO"
1:17:44/1:18:10 W33 biblethump. His team comforting him
1:19:53 Notail tearing up... the feels.
1:20:42 Kuro's plan
1:22:53 Ending, and players hug each other. So much respect
Kuro was praying ...
Nobody:
Topson: Muted by Communication Abuse reports
True bro hahahaha
Topson is an evil supergenius. It´s a kind of Super-Joker...
I don’t think he can speak English that well that is why he not speaking(I’m just assuming)
@@med7942 not fluently but he still can speak well ... i just think he's a shy guy
I am sure he can speak English well enough, but he quite a typical Finnish guy :) I mean look at Matu, he is quite similar... Jerax is more talkative than Finns on average and a fair bit more open.
Watching the whole True Sight: okay
True Sight with player reactions out: okay Im in
This is my 3rd time watching related video to this
also watching blitzspank reaction
Lmao relatable
You son of a bicth! I'm in
This is my 5th time.
This is the most chill finals I've seen, like both teams dont let the pressure get to them at the beginning. Shows they have a very level head even at the most precarious situations
Miracle so humble..
22:10
W33 to Miracle "Best TA i ever seen "
Miracle : "After you"
W33 : Habibi
Whats the meaning of habibi?
@@imamnawawi502 my love
@@rudeeamin wait, what?
@@JSLE20200 he meant in a bromancy way
habibi habibiii habibiiiii
i love how ana probably is now in a net cafe with his 4k mmr friends having fun playing dota, im genuinly happy for that guy, he seems so fragile but yet so powerful. Happy break Ana !
@Interrupting Cow Rolls up to a final with zero notes, sleeps through the first quarter, ends up acing it anyway, goes back home and sleeps
@@davidk7439 a s i a n
PEAK ASIAN
Mmr just number lol
Hes that one person who barely listen at the class and still got top scores in exams
21:47 Kuroky: True sight was nice, we can end here.
Hahahhaah
dat flashback from kuro thou
Haha nice one, he win ti bo1
ight imma head out -Kuroky
Lol
So much respect for Liquid being a part of this. Such a great attitude. Could not have been easy. Great to see how well the teams get along
39:09 legend says Jerax still wonder what that Red Thing is. While MC thinking the Wraith King.
Lmfaoooo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMFAOOO
This is the best comment so far. It needs to be on top HAHAHAHA
@Mohammad Nadeem At that time stamp the Liquid manager, almany-, hands w33 a red object. I believe it's a lighter. Jerax asks what it is and MC doesn't know what he's talking about. Jerax says "the red thing" and MC thinks he said "Wraith King."
1:19:38 - 1:24:02
Ceb to Notail :"Dude you are not belive to yourself ? you are 2 Time TI winner. Never do this to yourself again, man. You are the absolute best man.Never doubt yourself again"
Notail :"Yeah remind me later this year"
Ceb: "We all do it. I'll be there and when it's my turn you will be there"
Notail : *tearing up
after fly leaves him, maybe notail get hit so hard about that but glad ceb was there for him.
My favourite part of the video
@@settingsmedlhux8152 hes coaching them
@@settingsmedlhux8152 he is not leaving OG but just the active roster. He is the most dedicated person in OG.
He did dedicate TI9 to Ceb.
Ceb is notail's true best friend, it's not about how long you've become a friend, it's about the one who always be there for you
1:16:43 Man, I couldn't watch it. :(( From this point, Notail realize that he gonna miss or already missed that moment so much, because he will never be able to step into TI stage again with all of his friends (same line up). He tried so hard to hide those feelings, but ended up in tears.
Their friendship is not ended, but surely there's something huge that've been missing there.
Hhh, I'm gonna miss this complete line up so much.
Goodluck for the new line up, Notail & OG. 🌻🌻🌻
I'm gonna miss that line up too the dream team : (
+++ something pricked in my heart
Let's give them a chance :D the line up now is pretty strong, tho what I'll be missing is the trolls during the match 😭
Shed a tear for this when i realized
Where the real men cried...
I really love how genuinely friendly they are with each other. Only sad thing about this is w33's reactions. The losses really got to him and he's so hard on himself.
I mean he lost 2 ti finals 3-1 ofc he's gonna get hard on himself.
But thats why he need someone like kuro to help him
He's also a cheater so don't feel too bad
@@Doc_Fun what do you mean
@@timothyc3602 w33 got caught cheating himself extra gold through console commands in EEL back in like 2014/2015.
@@Doc_Fun it's been 8 years, he was probably a kid back then so it doesn't even count. At the age of 15 everyone does stupid shit like that
Liquid: You’re the best captain.
Kuro: OG’s the best.
So much respect for Kuro and Liquid. So happy to see OG win back-to-back TIs, yet so sad to see Liquid in their emotions.
Yeah and they keep bad comment about kuroky decision but they not know that kuroky decision that make them to grand final.
@@faqrulrazi7933 Yeah this truesight kinda shits on kuro's captaining and bullies MC for reasons unknown 😂😂.
The last part breaks the shit out of my heart💔😢
Really feeling for Kuro at the end when you see him tear up. :'(
Yeah that's such a heartbreaker
GH is literally untiltable player, always calm and positive. Respect
2nd game when they lose at the rosh bait he seems tilted
2 lower mmr SEA games is all itll take lol
21:48 “Truesight was nice, we can end here”😂😂😂
Actually it is pretty sad
Its diffrent from where you get to play 😂
44:56 GH's iconic reaction hahaha
Topson takes the "let my play do the talking" in a whole level
hahaha no shit bruh
Topson looks like he is about to murder someone.
The closeness and respect they have for each other is just amazing
Cuz kuro and notail are previous teamates same as jerax and mc
@@ogmiracle10 they are just legends of competitive dota, even if they never were in the same team, they'd still be respectful
They are aitting together and laughing, there is nothing amazing about it...
@@kkaappyyable yeah they should've get into fight or sit with poker faces? would be cooler huh?
@@kkaappyyable So if they make love with each other then it's gonna be amazing?
MC has a good character and I misjudged him all these years coz he always has this tiger look.
if you followed liquid and follow nigma now, you would have seen and you will see how MC is actually very cool
I feel you man...i ve been there too :p
He shocked me with his funny and cool character
First off, I think it's incredible the amount of success N0tail has had despite being such a tremendously emotional person. I can understand why people gravitate towards him - that kind of genuine compassion and charisma are hard to find. I hope he never retires.
And secondly, Topson didn't even blink for over an hour but you could tell he was trying REALLY hard not to smile when the casters were gushing over his Diffu Gyro build
Topson doesn't praise his own strategies and would rather keep them secret or ignored from the world.
@@rajlaxmi-2110 just see the statement in his hoodie "Break the meld" (Breaking Patterns) means being unpredictable
Man, the emotion got too real towards the end jesus
So happy seeing them all laughing, especially mc
For real. MC is BRILLIANT (his comments are spot on) but just had a rough series.
39:13
Jerax: what’s that? The red thing
Mc: the wraith king? Nobody
what is it tho
@@cedric5042 Looked like a lighter.
two worlds coexist
Honestly tho, what was that?
@@cedric5042 if i had to guess maybe a juul or something akin to it.
True sight live: Ready
True sight youtube: Ready
True sight in Bulldog's stream: Ready
True sight team reaction: Ready
True sight Ana reaction: pepehands
NotLikeThis
you just can't relate the shy guy being the first to spam chatwheel when the game start lel what OG did to a person poor guy. ^^
Ana's reaction will be like, "ohh shit, holy shit, aww fuck, *smileyface"
54:47 N0tail and Ceb's reaction to Ana's chrono is so subtle but wholesome. Both chronos in game 3 were incredible.
exactly how i feel every time i come back and watch these, ana chronos too good
I want to see Team Secret be TI10's Runner-up so I can see Puppey breaking chairs watching his lost on True Sight
Don't even think he would show
Yes please! 😂
Nah imagine watching truesight with eg and og now
This meme still relevant?
his 'loss'
You can hardly see Kuro's teary eyes after OG won, 1:14:34
1:21:33 - thoughts of leaving Liquid Org
Big shoutout to Liquid for participating in this and letting us see such a unique perspective on the game. It really can't be easy.
2021 still watching this over and over again. one of the best ti finals beside ti3
Topson: Pick me, pick me Pugna
Notail: Picks Pugna*
MC: I wanna play Furion
Kuroky: Picks Omniknight*
Kuroky: Play like Ceb
Caster: Liquid had nothing! they have NOTHING!
Time stamp?
kuro is a shitty captain
@@theirtheyrethere7946 He's a TI winning captain. How many TI's have you won?
@@PenguinLord10 i have none, so do you. but the way he handles the team and his attitude of ignoring the coach himself is toxic
@@mamba6339 drafting for game 4
39:29 Jerax: MC Is mentally done
MC: Why?
39:38 dota: "shows MC being mentally done"
That expression !
hahaha
This commend is so underrated haha
thats pure gold right there my friend
Lmfao
When Kuro started to become teary-eyed during team fights in game 4 that he knew they're already losing, and almost let it loose when he called the game, such a heartbreaking scene.
So wholesome to see Nigma and OG the best 2 teams laughing and smiling together
1:19:53, i wanna cry too, i don't know if the reason of notail tearing up is because he is happy for remembering winning TI or because that will be the last moment that he can play with ana, jerax, and ceb in TI, damn, i will miss the old OG, but also good luck for the new roster of OG. Hoping for 3 time champion!
Its because Ceb told him that he'll be there, and in that he believes when its his turn to doubt himself, n0tail would be there for him too.
@@firmanthered we see few moments of truly happiness are coming one by one: first is the father-son thing, and then Ceb words next. it's hard to resist the tears in such moments.
You never know man, I'd be willing to bet TI10 will be another fluke ;)
@@Drunkmers well it is the most common fish in the sea
Why Ceb Jerax and Ana won't play with OG next? Are the first two retiring? What about Ana
1:23:24 Kuro: (Pointing to Topson) That Guy Man, He's the Cause, He was piercing us.
So much respect for GODSON.
Pretty sure he said: "That guy, man. His calls, he was piercing."
seconds before that Topias whispered to Kuro "Gyro-diffu hehe(get rekt)"
1:19:40 When notail and ceb hug each other nearing the end, notail's reaction is getting teary eyed and so does ceb 🥺😭shows how much they care for each other
I pity the guy who left OG
I think it was notail's close friend
Notail was teary eyed during the opening scene when he was interviewed by kacey and he replied I dedicate this tournament to ceb.
MARJIAN TV he’s name is sumail
@@CarlJung666 it was fly man.. not sumail
@@esnr2367 yep
1:21:31
Kuro desperately asks: what to do now?
Miracle: Let’s eat I guess
Notail: see you at Ti10 and 11
Thank god he's still not retiring.
Jerax and Ceb did tho.
@@Zero-Dux ceb reitred???
@@gorgit Jerax retired, Ceb Step down on OG's Roster and Ana is still on vacation. The new OG roster are consisted of MidOne, Sumail, Saksa, Notail and Topson.
@@Zero-Dux yea dota and retirement imagine those words being together
@@jerbjerbjerb5912 I'm not really complaining about them retiring im just telling him that jerax and ceb retired, although i would have loved it if they won 3 TI and made a Dynasty.
These two teams sitting there together, watching together, laughing together, crying together. Imagine that in any other sport. Dota2 is something special man.
Well I might say it's a common thing in Handball and some other smaller sports
So underrated comment
its the 2 teams this wouldnt work with eg lgd and so on
Except miraclul. He didnt laugh nor enjoy it that much, even got almost asleep.
plus the 2 best coaches imo...
"MC selling everything to get the blink." We all know that feeling.
Copy paste
"pos 5 enigma"
i feel him.
Nice copy you fuck
Yeah i know that feeling
you know there's no bad blood between them when both teams agreed to have this reaction session together...
They are all multi millionaires so i guess it aint bad losing in the grand finals of a ti hehehe
And why would they? They all left with big bags of money.
man you can see how much this hurts kuroky, mad props for him to staying as positive as he could.
He almost cried dude😢
Shit leadership
W33's face was the worst. Especially in the end.
@@dKidFrankie yup. He makes the team lose
21:47 After winning game 1
kuro: Allright true sight was nice, now we can end here.
Lmaoooooo!!!!
42:45 Kuroky sync with the double camera wtf
Holy crap. Same hand movement too
Wow
error in matrix
@@kamillnemes9997 lmao
illuminati confirm 😂
W33 had so much potential, he played godlike w33 mepo is auto win, much like anna IO/spectre. He lost twice in the finals. And he isn't even respected. His story always makes me cry. I genuinely feel for him.
Yeah its almost unreal the amount of hate the guy gets, hope he can cope w it
Cause he's just like ame. Good players but break under pressure
i swear w33 got caught cheating in a pro dota match before, perhaps that’s why he’s disliked by some
No one:
Psg lgd : why we are not invited here last year.....
They might been invited but too busy to join OG
Most likely language reasons
They were, but even beyond the language barrier they denied the invitation because chinese players are too proud
No, main reason is they disbanded after ti
@@jakelee3364 how the hell they disbandes when they get 3rd in this ti....
IDK why OG never brings a cutout of ana with them on promo events like these. They did it to Topson when they went fishing.
Ana is studying, his parent are strict
ana not doctor yet
You know Asian parents right? You have 3 choices, be a doctor, an engineer, or get beaten 🤣
"You doctor yet?"
"No dad, but I won TI twice"
"Talk to me when doctor"
@@aniketandraskar family guy reference ay. Noice
1:18:37 Kuro: OG's the best.
What a great respectful man
Indeed. The harshest words he had for them were "They're monkeys. And I don't mean it in a flamy way." Respect level over 9000.
His reaction to it did not correlate at all. He was like "OG's the best" then his reaction rejected his words like "bruh, u guys played the most broken hero in that patch"
@@Aciel_Yu Haha, I bet every team that already taste Ana IO carry feel like this
Lovely to see both team watching the truesight together, enjoying the recording showing the game of their life
57:44 Can see how Kuro and Notail wanted an equal finals and Kuro feels he let Notail down in a way as well.
w33's reaction when he said that "atleast you guys won ti" he wants to cry. Feels 💔 for him. Hoping time will come that he could claim the aegis someday.
Rojeboy Alfred Ong was actually rooting for liquid to win so old man w33ha can win one
You can see Kuro, Miracle and GH are all comforting him, feelsbadman.
Topson: sorry, can't relate.
Same but there one thing I learnt from burning is that some were destinated not to held the aegis no matter how great they are.
Me : atleast you guys play at TI
Imagine the stress and exhaustion from playing lower bracket finals and TI Finals in the same day, that's tough. That's why I always respect liquid for surviving through all that since TI 7. Love both teams ✊
Thats right dude 😭
so upper bracket for bitches?
@@rioruauw2151 they are just saying it to boost the confidence of the team and makes the team calmer, and they can think right.
i still don't agree lmao it's like saying that og didn't have to work their asses to get into the finals
say that shit to OG who played non-stop games in TI8 just a few months after their roster was broken. Stress and exhaustion is no excuse, both teams had their fair share of that. Nigma (Liquid) and OG are strong teams. The latter just had a better read in drafting + raw individual skills. When I was watching TI9 Grand final, it wasn't Topson or Ana I noticed. It was the godlike plays of Jerax. That guy is legend!
Let us not forget, that behind every team that we like or dislike for whatever reasons, are humans. Thanks for putting this together.
It makes me crying a little actually
They're good team for all, good teammates and good friends for each other. RESPECT
Topson be changing his style after every TI. Bruh got dem piercings now
From a Chad to Fckboi
Pacboi
Cause he can do he want he is millionaire
Topson is absolutely mvp of ti9 grand final. His play was insane. Good Tiny perfomance in game 1. Monkey king in game 2 that make w33 afraid to against that hero in game 3. Pugna in game 3 that dominating the game. And diffusal gyro in game 4 that make miracle useless
makes you wonder what he'd look like if they win TI10.
I'm sure he'll be buff boi then.
The differnt between their Captainship is that
Everyone listens to kuro,
While
Notail listens to everyone.
"Team work makes the dream work"
Ana : I should buyback
Notail : nope
😅😅
But I see your point about kuro he needs to let them draft their own heroes man like og does
bars man!
Ceb was the capt.
@@ianerz009 Notail is the captain of OG
@@amyelll i see. I thought ceb was capt. Thanks!
1:13:40 - 1:22:10
Man. Imagine watching your self in a movie making history with your bestfriend. I totally felt Ceb's emotion there. He deserve that moment. A total package captain for any sport I guess.
39:13 "What is that?"
"Hm?"
"The red thing."
"The Wraith King?"
"Yeah."
"...Nobody."
(both laugh)
JerAx and MC
Golden MC is still mentally done
@@solomonthegreat290 his mind is no longer controlled
MC: Nobody
And then both of them awkwardly laugh to show that bothof them understood each other lol
i relized this...hahahahha...thats lighter jerax
Kuroky : alhamdulillah omar :')
Omar : alhamdulillah :')
Thats touching moment what he said :')
Best captain ever!! Kuroky - NotaiL ! :')
when is that?
@@muhammad-wq8sw last part i guess
@@muhammad-wq8sw at 1:20:29
Thanks for notice that
Can you translate?
I'm so curious as to why Ana instantly peaces out after TI, he's like the secret character summon that instantly wins you the game and disappears on a long cooldown.
He's the last boss
University I would assume
kinda feel he was depressed / tired of it, judging by the way he behaved in the finals
He countinued his studyng dude.... he still 16
Notail ceb and fly only sign him for winning major and TI...
Haha. The moment called “Moogy Moment” ruined everything.
So sad for Nigma!
30:18 W33: why do people play monkey mid?
Notail and Ceb: Starts poking TopSon
*Gold Moment*
what minute w33haa want to ban MK at 3RD GAME?
We need to have a chat wheel just with Ana saying "oh shit", "holyshit" and etc.
I need this so bad
Don't forget "fuck me"
19:54 Miracle is so toxic. What a boring personality.
@@doglover7078 judging by your logic, everyone who lacks reactions is toxic/boring
no cuzz words
Everyone having a good time except for Topson, he's in "Replay analysis" mode :D
Anxiety mode
Topson is just AFK,and the Disconect
i think its because he isn't close to anyone there other than his team, hence feeling awkward and bored.
Other : enjoy the movie
Topson : analys team nigma so they can defeat them later
What about Miracle? Dude barely reacts lol
Hi it's 2022 and going back to what I view as a "OG greatest hits" and instead seeing two teams realizing accomplishments and failures is amazing. The love between Kuro and N0Tail is remarkable
seeing them smiling makes me smile as well
ceb: "youre the best spectre player in this entire stadium"
ana: / UwU
*best player
*Ana liked that
Announcers: “Yeah they banned invoker last game too because topsons one of the most famous invokers”
Topson: mouth slightly twitches, blinks once
19:54 Miracle is so toxic. What a boring personality.
@@doglover7078 nobody care
@@Orverlisa you replied so you cared. You fkn rat
Gimme time stamp
@@doglover7078 agreed. but kuro is worse tho telling mc to play omni like ceb.
Dude i fucking loved Mind Control, he is so sincere and energetic.
Me: I mean, who's gonna watch the whole thing again?
Also me: YOU KNOW WHAT'S COOKING?
Anubhav Sharma BOOM!!
BOOOMMMMM
YOU KNOW WHATS COOKING
YOU KNOW WHATS COOKING
YOU KNOW WHATS COOKING
YOU KNOW WHATS COOKING? BOOM!
I mean I sure wanna watch the reaction.
Why the weird spacing between the sentences?
Legit didn’t even know Topson was sitting there with OG until 5minutes into the video... WOW
He's a good player
No one:
Literally no one:
: he's a good player
😕
New Arcana 🤣
Silent but deadly
@@theknightquist unfunny memes are real
1:00:57
Kuro : "Play like Ceb"
MC : "Kill me"
Kuro has the strongest dad energy in this. Seeing him still being there for his players, supporting N0Tail when he gets emotional... He knows that TI isn't just about 1 team winning, it's all the players living their dreams on the biggest stage. His respect for everyone is beautiful.
41:13 Valve is showing us probably the only key to defeat OG in TI finals.. ban(ana)
Wow i was late
So if the key is Ban(ana) then a DotA2 team just needs Friberg right? (The king of Ban(ana))
Underated
@@highrofellos6721 good meme
Slack's joke, love it!
Ana's reaction to True Sight 2019...
Fssst
Good shit...
G
Where is ana. Fucking anti social
@@husamabdulazizalfaruq6131 college life bro lul.
@@ilmamachmadiarsyi4334 😬
I love seeing Liquid (Nigma) and OG watching true sight together. At the end of the day, they are all just friends playing dota and having fun.
imagine the awkwardness when og and eg goes to final and watch true sight XD
ps. with ramzes in the studio hahahaha
@@nevermore888 shiettttt
1:10:54 where MC says "look at me" where he is dying and laughing at it is just wholesome❤
I love how everyone respects each other and everyone's just having fun watching
It should be like this in gaming community..winning and losing are normal.. Especially when in grand final..Og been there.. Liquid been there.. So next time.. Play hard.. Get a good strategy..then u will win
@@tacibana88 total disrespect though from kuro and w33 when watching game 2 they were discussing that they loss because of the exhaustion and that's kinda shitty lol they said they were winning game 2 I guess they forgot how OG run them over from the very start of game 2 to 4
@@jejusss You could say that its disrespect but true sight doesn't show everything so we can't assume. Only the players know what they were feeling.
@@arunprakash4792 nah not that hahaha I mean while they were watching true sight, kuro and w33 are making comments and excuses of how they were so tired before the game and it's a total disrespectful thing to do, they were like discrediting OGs win, you know what I'm saying ? It's not even about the true sight anymore it's when they were watching