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My issue with the industry regarding monoblocks and separate components in general is the preamp. A good quiet separate preamp with all the modern convenient connections is crazy money that I refuse to justify. So I use my separate power amp like you, with a Marantz receiver as the preamp.
I was a representative for Parasound and many other well known brands for years. Sold the multiple Parasound amps years ago and replaced them with an Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2 of equal wattage for my Paradigm Reference Studio V5 towers and home theater setup. This was an immediate upgrade in trerms of dynamics, low volume sounding more fleshed out and never any hint of strain while sounding better than any previous cable/source upgrades I had tried over the years. Like Andrew I was lucky enough to be in the biz and was sent multiple products to evaluate and/or demonstrate including exotic car priced components. Emotiva is a well designed, built and fantastic sounding amplifier for both my 2 channel music listening and home theater needs without breaking the bank. Love your videos and it helps me keep up with what's new these days. Thanks to you both and keep telling the truth!
@Taco Not necessarily, though having that extra "torque" or more amperes of current is always better than running an amp at it's extremes. This can most certainly involve soundstage, low and high level dynamics and more full bodied overall sound. Room response and speaker placement are very important to this in particular.
@@daveycrockett5738Sounds like you are a Parasound fan, congratulations on your system synergy. I did mention it was equal in power and with some very nice equipment in the chain as well. I and several audio friends all preferred the Emotivas' sound overall for both music and movies compared to the John Curl designed Parasound which is more laid back and less involving. Once again in our opinion which may differ than yours. You may like horn speakers and I do not which used to be ok to have differing opinions and not be shamed for them. Reminds me of when I was the rep for Precision Power car audio amplifiers and hooked up a new well regulated car amp (egad) on a power supply and battery powering Wilson tower speakers, that costed way more than my car, and covered it all with a sheet before the employees saw that it was not a Jeff Rowland, Krell, Pass etc. The oohs and ahhs were like something from a wine tasting until their minds couldn't compute how good amplifier circuit design topology comes into play and the importance of a proper power supply. The car amplifier had a much higher damping factor than their normal "holy grail amps" and they all heard woofer control and speed that they had been missing before. Suddenly some very jaded ultra high end home audio salesmen wanted to order some PPI amps and processors for their cars..lol. They also learned perceived notions of higher priced equipment being superior due to reputation or just price alone are often proved incorrect in a blind test. Buy an Emotiva, ATI, Monolith or similarly built units and swap between your Parasound and you might find you prefer one over the other. PS: NASA, the US Military, British Aerospace Systems (BAE) and many other experts in their respective fields chose me to design and implement rather complex A/V systems using my knowledge and experience in the industry. So not really hanging my head in shame because you have a financial attachment to your purchase so strong that you can't fathom a factory direct sales model can beat the prices of paying the reps like me hefty commissions and a substantial profit left for the dealer. Live and learn I guess. Enjoy your music and your life ahead !
@@mikelanier5617 I agree with you 100%. It’s amazing how people get so biased based on a price tag or brand. A colleague once loaned me a Parasound Halo Hint integrated. I connected it to my system and was like.. I don’t like this. Same thing happened with a Manley Chinook phono stage that I was also loaned. Didn’t liked that laid back sound at all. Turns out that I like the sound of my Denon amp with an entry level iFi phono stage. Sometimes a hefty price tag only means big commissions paid to a bunch of middle men or a bigger profit margin for the company and not necessarily higher quality components or circuitry.
I just picked up a hunk of parasound metal two days ago. I love it, I've only had some $1k integrateds (a few) previous to this purchase so it's been a substantial upgrade and so far loving it. Your comment did make me question my whole life a bit, lol,.. but I know that wasn't your intention and of course I know that I didn't buy something that was meant to be the last word in quality or high end. I didn't even buy the high end JC model. Anyhow. Your post and this review is actually most encouraging. As it puts in stark contrast the money that can be spent, and the relative enjoyment that can still be had with far more modest costing setups. Am I glad I still bought and get to live with this parasound piece for some time? Absolutely! But it's also great to know there are other avenues that can be pursued that don't have to be explored by continually injecting greater sums of money to experience.
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Have an older Emotiva BASX 5175 (125 WPC x 5) and I'm absolutely impressed with the amp. Sounds beautiful, gobs of power, absolutely silent and no matter how hard you push, it never gets hot.
Been considering Emotiva monoblocks for the past few years. You sold me! Thank you Andrew! Seperates all the way - for serious listening. Casual listening - it doesn't matter.
I bought a pair of Emotiva XPA HC-1 monoblocks to drive my Magnepan 1.7 speakers. I agree 100% with this reviewer, Emotiva delivered clean, uncontaminated power to my Maggies at all volumes, tremendous sound stage and imaging, transparent vocal and instrument separation, and excellent linearity. One thing you'll notice right away is how grippy the sound is with 600 watts of high current power. For the price, I think this Emotiva is an amazing bargain, especially for hard to drive speakers like Magnepan.
I'm so happy somebody accurately reviewed the HC1. I absolutely LOVE mine. My living room is huge and the HC1s pushing my Ulfberhts absolutely fills the room with sound.
Great review! You really damaged some people's egos in the comments with the truth 🤣🤣🤣. Some people can't handle other people getting the same exact performance for a fraction of the cost. Keep it up. You're helping bring the cost of audio down and we appreciate it. These companies watch, I know it.
I love my new Polk Audio Legend L600s powered by the Emotiva DR2. At 4 ohms there is 800 wpc on tap. I also have the Polk Audio L400 center channel powered by the Emotiva DR1 monoblock and at 4 ohms it has 1000 watts on tap. This is the most impressive system that I have ever owned now that I am retired and spend a lot of time listening to music.
Hey Andrew, thanks for putting this out there... I went and bought a pair! even though I only recently bought the Denafrips Thallo (120w into 8ohms) HOLY TOLEDO BATMAN!! what a difference mono blocks make. I was worried that there may not be much of a change in sound quality, considering the excellent sound from the Thallo. The Emotiva blocks woke up my PMC speakers, separation, sound stage size, clarity, details & BASS are all improved. I guess that's why we see mono blocks in high end systems at Hifi shows. Now I need to sell the Thallo, I know you mentioned you prefer the simplicity of Intergrated amps (I understand I'm a designer) but I don't think I can give up how powerful Mono blocks control sound...
Quality Power = Better Control, absolutely! And a big thumbs up to Kristi's contributions to this review. I have preferred and enjoyed separate power since I purchased a Carver C-11/TFM-15 set in the early 90s. Many formats and sources have come and gone, but the TFM-15 (refreshed) remains an active part of my listening.
I really appreciate the manner you conduct your reviews Andrew with articulation and thorough information for viewers and I also appreciate how you bring Kristi in and allow Kristi to share another perspective respectively and patiently allow another sharing of valued input. I prefer the integrated amps as well. Hope to see a review on the Polk Reserve Series R700 Floorstanding tower speaker.
I just connected an Emotiva 5 channel XPA to my Polk R700’s and could not believe an AMP could improve a top Yamaha receiver’s performance as it did….its a new world, i hear sounds i never heard before & if you like bass, well…..amazing!!!
I really enjoyed this review, the analogy of torque versus horsepower in regards to amplification was spot on. I am a supporter of separate components. I recently made the switch from a Marantz SR18 reciever to Nad C162 preamp and C272 power amp combination. A coworker heard the system fell in love and had to have it, so I sold it to her. I am now running a Primare Pre30 preamp and A32 power amp which raised the power from 150 watts to 250 per channel. The added power was instantly noticeable, so much dynamics and effortless finesse. The preamp gave me the ability to gain match each input no matter what kind of components were being used.
Hi Andrew. I have the Emotiva XPA GEN 3 Modular Power Amplifier with just the 2 basic channels. I bought this amplifier as a replacement to my Rotel RB-1582MK 11 stereo power amplifier in case it "kicks the bucket". The Rotel has a slightly "warm" sound which complements the LS50 Metas. The Emotiva sound neutral. The Preamp i am using with both power amps is a Goldmund tube line level preamp designed after the famous Marantz 7. It is important to note that you can damage a loudspeaker with less power than with more. Preamps that are separate from power amps tend to degrade the source signal less than integrated amplifiers which share some of the components.
In 2003 i was switching to a home theater system, i sold my Adcom GFA5500 to my cousin, couldn't afford to add the GFA5500 3 which was over $1200. Looked on Ebay, found a Carver AV 705x amplifier, looked up reviews and liked what I saw. For $450 i got this beast of an amp 45lbs. When I hooked it up, one channel was out. Contacted the seller who offered me a full refund or would send it to be repaired at a Carver authorized repair and would pay for it. 3 weeks later I got it back and all I could say was WOW. That amplifier is still powering my Infinity Interlude suite of speakers IL 50s, IL 10s and IL25C. It's quiet, runs cool and drives my speakers to theater and concert levels without breaking a sweat. Only upgrade was the Preamp from a Rotel to a newer Marantz and the sound has only gotten better.
capacity to provide instantaneous current is a HUGE demand. This is what tests amplifiers and fits your analogy of torque from a motor. It is relevant. The topology of power supply and the storage for current provision is what I think too many amplifiers compromise for reduced cost or to fit a constrained space.
I haven't heard it, but I bet the Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 3 may be the sweet spot here. A few hundred $ cheaper than the monoblocks and still loads of power.
I would absolutely love to get a new video explaining amplification as it would majorly help with my job. Being able to explain why more amplification is better with realistic examples like you gave can really help a customer make a better purchase. It would go a long way to include the differences on classes of amplifiers as well!
You ask for comments about separates or integrated. I am 67 and back in the 70's I loved my separates, and I loved my Klipsch Corner Horns for fronts and my Klipsch La Scala’s for rears, yes this was the era of 4-channel surround systems. I loved the Klipsch so much that I brought them with me to Germany when I was in the Army and everywhere I went for the next 20 plus years. However, in the 90s I went back to 2-channel quality sound buying my first integrated the Yamaha DSP A1, I fell in love, it had it all. No, I don't believe you have to spend more than $3500 for an integrated, there is a clear point of diminishing returns. In the 2005 timeframe, I sold my Klipsch speakers and I will forever regret it. I also sold my Technics SL-1000MKII SP-10MK2 Direct Drive Turntable EPA-100, SP-10 MK2, and SH-10E, also regretting it. So, I left the audio world behind for sixteen years, for many reasons, however, I always felt my life was lacking as a result, music is so therapeutic. Finally, when I retired I was thinking about trying to build another system. Two of my sons and I took on a project building a 450 pound folded horn enclosure modelling after the Klipsch, in the form factor of a large coffee table using two 12” dual voice coil subs powered by a 1200 watt Yamaha Power Amp with a DBX Sub Synthesizer, which I connected wirelessly using Martin Logan 2.4Mhz transceiver connected to my old, yes my faithful Yamaha DSP A1, my speakers are polar opposite to the Klipsch as I got a deal on a pair of Martin Logan ESL Impression 11A speakers, at 4ohms I was getting 180 per channel. I needed it even though the speakers are actively powered with 250 watts internal amps. I can't tell you how balanced and totally quiet my system sounds in terms of distortion, but the subs are never set above 3, and it is amazing, I can go into all the typical audiophile speak here, but I won't bore you, let's just say I have not heard anything that delivers quality music like this unless you are spending six figures and I still think you would be hard-pressed. I did start thinking, as most do, is there anything I am missing, I pondered this question for the next year and then I went out and purchased a midrange DEVIALET integrated, and while I love so much about this unit for all the right reasons, I go back to my Yamaha DSP A1 every time, so the DEVIALET was relegated to my bedroom system. I know you must be thinking he is crazy, but you have to sit and listen, it will blow you away. Oh and yes I finally got a deal on another Technics SL-1000MKII SP-10MK2 Direct Drive Turntable EPA-100, SP-10 MK2, SH-10E, I had it upgraded with all the recommended board-level comments and had it serviced. Between the vinyl and WIFI streaming from various quality sources, my music experience is pure happiness. Oh yes, I also added the Jasmine Audio LP2.5DU MM/MC Phono Preamplifier, a great MC cartridge and cables, not a crazy expensive one as I think it gets ridiculous quickly. Yes, the Yamaha DSP A1 is untouchable at the eBay price of around $400, if a 2-channel system is all you want you just can’t beat it. But to be very honest my setup would not be so exciting if not for the folded horn loaded sub my sons and I built, I wish you could hear it. Even though my integrated is missing the HDMI inputs, I have no problems re-creating great blue-ray Home Theater quality movie experiences with this system. My simple conclusion is don’t get sucked into the marketing hype, there is only what is in the original signal to be reproduced, period, anything else added is at your own risk. A few examples are cables, speakers spikes and component vibration Isolation devices, so much here is total nonsense. Listening experience: BEYOND WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID When I switch between sources or tracks and my system levels on the DSP A1 is 70% and the Sub amp is 27%, I can hear a pin drop there, is zero distortion/noise, that’s my ultimate litmus test. When I had my Klipsch speakers I used a DB meter and I can attest to a listening level above 105db, now it's more about quality sound stage presence, and imaging. My music tastes are eclectic, when I listen to pentatonic, I am smiling or Jazz and classical the same is true, even with Led Zeppelin, I am more than satisfied, any questions I think I have were in my own head.
I bought the Emotiva BasX PT1 pre-amp and BasX A2 amp (175 wpc) and they brought wonder to my speakers. And the combo was less than $1,000. I am sold on these guys and happy that they are American owned as well. Good review, Andrew and Kristi!
Best explanation about power and not needing to really hit a speaker with it to get the most from a speaker. I have for decades felt the same way. As you've said a quality amp although powerful does need the volume control maxed out to get the speakers to "sing". Point well made and a reason to get a powerful amp and yet not use it to bring down the house!
Hello Andrew, Thank You for this review of the HC-1. I bought a pair of these last year to pair with my new Magnepan LRS, I absolutely Love the combination. I also scored a couple Schiit Vidars which I switch back and forth between the LRS and some Vintage 1986 Klipsch La Scalas, but I digress. You asked the question, Separates or Integrated/Receivers. I'm probably a bit older and a product of the 70's Receiver Wars. When I graduated High School in 1974 I was set on obtaining a Marantz or Pioneer Receiver or Integrated Amp. I joined The US Military to jump start my spending career on Audio equipment. In 1977 I found myself in Okinawa Japan, where actual Separates were a fraction of US prices and not costing much more than Receivers of the day, that were very inexpensive in Japan as well. The base I was stationed at even had an Audio Hobby Shop where you could audition all kinds of audio equipment. I dedicated the entire year of 1978 to auditioning Amps, Pre-Amps, Integrated Amps, and Receivers, not to mention Speakers. Of course I choose a speaker First, The Pioneer HPM 150. I then figured out what equipment made my speakers sound THE BEST!!! Hands Down it was The Separates that Won The Day. I chose The Pioneer Spec 1&4 Pre-Amp/Amp combination, 150 Watts/Channel@ 8 Ohms. Unheard of Power for this era. I feel you were Spot-On with your Torque Analogy, this is Exactly why I choose Separates in 1978. The Dynamic Range of the Spec 4 was just Effortless at Any Sound Level, it was just so obvious to me back then. I've stayed in this Camp Ever Since, 40 Plus Years and counting. Pioneer to Soundcraftsmen to Carver to Adcom to Emotiva and Schiit Audio. You Gotta Love Separates! D. Scott Houston, Texas
Hi D.Scott. I have LRS Maggie's too, but need to get an amp and am trying to decide between the hc1s or schiit vidars. Have you tried both with your LRS? I really appreciate the opinions!
@@rjbean13 Hello RJ... I can recommend both of these outstanding Amps but the key for me is the Monoblock configuration if the budget allows. Aesthetically I think the HC-1 has the slightly better appearance but the Vidar is pretty awesome looking as well. Again you can't go wrong with either especially in a Monoblock setup.
I have to say, I like Kristi asking questions on behalf of the viewer at the end. It reminds me of Kevin from This Old House. He was hired to ask the questions the audience might have.
I'll have to disagree with your wife this time. Your emotiva review was not too long. I absolutely love your presentations. The details of your listening experience are so important for two reasons. Most have no opportunity to listen to it compare various units. Secondly i get bored off sites that spend most of their time on specs. Specs don't really tell you how something is going to sound. Certainly won't give you a clue on the type of experience you'll have. Comparing the sound of a unit specifically to others also gives us a point of reference. Now that you've reviewed the Emotiva mono blocks, I'm hoping you will review other "affordable" options and as always compare your listening experience to the other amps you've listened to. This is so helpful and meaningful. You and Christine are my favorite reviewers. Thanks
Well I have something to say.... Got a pair of these, actually took me awhile to try them, and once I did well they were simply not my cup of tea.... Disconnected them and life went on... Lately I started to get more new equipment that forced me to go all balanced in and out....and I really liked the results...so I've been going through all my equipment that as balanced inputs... Totally forgot that these do that...one day I gave them a try and omg! Its like a different amp! Today these are one of my favorite amps! So happy that I didn't return them! Probably one of the best deals today! Just my 2 Satoshis... Can't recommend enough.
Mr Robinson, great review, have always liked and eyeballed the concept of the Emotiva mono amplifiers smaller and larger ones . Currently just picked a gently used Emotiva PT 100 preamp/ tuner. Youve solidified some things for my consideration of the Emotiva mono blocks. Enjoyed this review, it was thorough in showing people what more powerful amps truly mean and it’s not just loudness or more frequency exaggeration but quality and realism! 💯💯🙏🏾 much appreciation to you
Agree with your comments on clean power. I run a Musical Fidelity M6 500i integrated, 500w per channel dual monos in a single cabinet. Life is about compromises. This amp will drive anything cleanly and negates need for seperate interconnects etc. I'm satisfied and that's what matters. Keep up the great work.
I think that when you and Kristi did your final thoughts at the end will be very helpful to a lot of people. I believe the subject of high sensitive speakers isn't talked about enough..that high sensitive speakers aren't reviewed enough. Or maybe there just aren't many being made anymore..I don't know if that's true or not but I very rarely, if ever, hear about them. Everything new these days in an affordable range is low ohm low sensitivity, needing more power. I love the idea and look of integrated amplifiers, but due to my speakers dipping into the high 3 ohm's along with their 86db sensitivity rating I have to use that external or "separate" amplifier to get them to their full potential. Great review by the way 👍
I've had my Emotiva XPA5 and my RPA2 for about 7 years now. They've been rock solid, and honestly as heavy as a rock too. No complaints with them at all. They even heat the room in the winter too :) My Kef towers have no issue playing clearly much louder than I'd ever want to listen at. The amps seem to be built like tanks, I'd buy from Emotiva again....if I wanted the A/B design. The Crown XLS are intriguing though.
Great comment at the end of the video. I'm running 98 db sensitivity speakers with 575 watt mono blocks. I have hit 103 db at -30 db on the dial during cercendowes. At -40 db on the dial I'm around 80 to 85 db. Just effortless sound
Kristi's so funny! LOL "2 minutes"..... Ive been a fan of integrateds since Symphonic Line's RG9 when I walked into a high performance shop here in Kansas City. Of course, NAD "little bugger" 3020 was more accessible and I had one way back when.
That's what I was looking at, I am a sucker for white speakers 😏. I'm saving up for the arendals unless something cheaper comes along that can compete with it
i completely agree about polk speakers being hungry for power . they are like a super fit athlete that NEEDS a minimum amount of calories in order to perform at their optimum level . when i had my SDAs back in the eighties the salesman explained the same thing, that those speakers need premium high octane fuel to sound good so he recommended the carver magnetic field amp which did the trick .
(in lil Jon's voice) Whaaaaaaaat???!!! Andrew, 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 not only did we get a power amp review but a mono block power amp 👍🏽👊🏽 thank you Sir. So the question is will this be the only one this year or will we see the newer Outlaw 2200 mono block? Btw it's as slim as an old school fm tuner 😉
I think I understand your explanation on power but want to be sure. The Polks recommended power is 100 watts but with a higher watt amp, like the Emotiva at 300 watts, insures the speaker gets much cleaner power, reduces chances of distortion or hurting the speaker at higher volumes and brings the most out of the speaker at lower volumes? Great job as always! Continued thanks for you and Kristi do.
Yeah, still not hooking these to my esl57. Depends on the speaker if they like or can handle the power. I have seen a few ribbon tweeters going up in smoke from a too powerful amp. So handle with care and check what is possible/agreeable first
I owned an Emotiva and Outlaw Audio wasnt there for music . Purchased a used Bryston 4bsst2 with 12 years more on the warranty. Nothing but smiles . Pray and I hope Emotiva will be around for the repair.
I dreamed that I saw a young Andrew in an Emotiva educational video... I woke and ordered this... Emotiva Amp XPA-DR1 pair, and Emotiva-DAC, XDA-3 Differential Reference. 🙏
The way you explained it Andrew, it made me realize I'm good without an amp, and others might benefit with one. Thank you both for all your honest and great reviews.
Kristi is great! "It works; we're done!" Thanks Andrew and Kristi. Another fabulous and informative review. Since you asked, I am "separates all the way."
I recently purchased a recently refurbished Vintage Luxman L-430 amplifier. It has 0.015% THD, 110dB S/N ratio and delivers more than 105watts into 8 ohms. It's the most neutral amp I have ever heard and will do me for the foreseeable future.
Just started this review/ video. So prior to completing my viewing of your: I am looking for more power. However, I want my whole system to be a musically forgiving system, which plays well recorded music; but allows for musical enjoyment of all the not-so-well recorded music I love so much.
There is an event coming up in July called MWAVE (Midwest AV Experience) were we get to blind audition different amps and receivers against each other and see what listeners like. It’ll be interesting as we get o compare some flagship systems and some very budget systems. Come on out to KS and join us!
I have recently added separates to both of my systems and it's remarkable how more dynamic the sound difference is. I was always a receiver is just as good don't believe the hype, but my speakers and ears bed to differ!!
Also, big thanks for your video last year about your pioneer sx 780 upgrade from Just Audio. Their channel is awesome, and just wanted to thank you for making me aware.
I appreciate that you are honest and explain that buying a more expensive amp is not going to give you better performance I my self would go for the crown 👑 for less money and max performance at least you said that and it’s a true statement you are not like most you tubers that are in one camp or the other.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thanks Andrew I have subbed for the reason above ☝️ I was watching a video yesterday and a guy not mentioning any names thought Geoff Roland makes the best amps period they are good I guess but the best I have a friend that builds amps 10000 watts and for less money and trust me Roland’s don’t have a chance
Awesome video... honesty... open window... fresh air. Emotiva makes great stuff! Basx TA1 stereo integrated... is a Killer at $550. They do lack bells and features... no HD tuner, no built in usb, no media skills. But crazy clean power at blue collar price.
I love the way you talk in the video and your dynamic with your wife is very charming. I have a question, what mic are you using to record your voice when speaking
Emotiva lost me as a customer when my 4 year old Xpa2 gen 2 started making crackle noises out of both channels. After paying 200$ to ship it back to them for warranty I was told my speakers (same, and only one I have ever used on that amp) were too efficient and that's why I can hear the defect. They told me I shouldn't be using such a power amplifier of klipsch speakers. I asked kindly for them to just fix the problem, which they did and it was returned to me at no charge. After the repair the amplifier was quiet again. Upon doing some Google research, this is a common defect on this amplifier likely due to low quality part selection. I really don't understand why this stuff is put on a pedestal it truly does not belong.
Having more power to cover dynamics is like how Tesla or most all other electric cars handle torque on-demand throughout their entire range of speed. It is always a good thing.
More power I want that but can't find a good review about emotiva xpa Dr series, that would be interesting review, getting 3 of these will cost about 300€ more, which is best, 3 hc1 or dr3,eny tips?
I really appreciated this review. It helped my decision to order a pair of these. I feel like an expectant father waiting on delivery of the twins tomorrow!
@@palerider55 I love them! Super clear, detailed power with great sound. Even my wife noticed how much better the system sounded. I would buy them again in a heartbeat!
Great video! I was strongly considering buying an amp from the Parasound Halo line but after watching this i definitely need to look more closely at Emotiva. Your comparisons and break downs of quality are very helpful.
Man, I laughed out loud at the Emotiva dig. I could feel the history. To their defense though, when you put out amps like they do at that price for years, you can style however you want. But an update would be nice. That company 100% deserves love for bringing quality amps at an insane price to us budget folks
I play my ml esl xs on these and it sounds fantastic. Even on stats they don’t struggle, and as you say they are transparent which is what you want with critical listening on stats. Love the review, agree with you.
That's good to know. I think I will buy a pair tomorrow to power my Aerius i's. After the trial period, if I like them, I'll probably buy three more to power the center and surrounds.
My dad always had good audio equipment, built his own speakers, and so I was exposed to "hi-fi" at a young age and have always appreciated it. I worked my way up from the typical Cerwin-Vega/Pioneer SX-xxx (went through several), Dual turntable in college through several system iterations until the separates I have now. I actually have an Emotiva XPA-7 which replaced a Carver 5 channel a while back. I'm an old school, separates guy. I do agree about your "power is torque" comparison. Although I have a set of Klipsch Heresy's running off the Emotiva's now, I got my JBL L96's back last year after my dad passed. (I gave them to him when CRT TV's were the norm and the magnets played havoc with the picture.) The woofers had been re-coned a few years ago, and after I got them back from Just Audio, who replaced the twist-lock speaker binding posts with 5 ways, sweet cheese louise! I actually prefer them to the Heresy's and the Miller and Kreisel (MK) 125's I also have. The power makes all the difference. (Your automotive comparison reminded me of Top Gear. POWER!) Nice review of a kind of boring topic.
I get it, reviewing power amps aren't sexy but for those with A.V.P.'s or power hungry speakers we need to know your opinion ! It's so good to see you doing them until of course powered speakers with DSP become more mainstream. Thx dude 👍🏼
Great videos! Useful content. Great personality. Helpful, relevant comparisons. I was on the fence about the Emotiva HC1 monoblocks. Your video helped me decide to get them! Keep up the great work!
It is rare that you can still find quality and price, but Emotiva is doing it. I love the amp I purchased from them (after Andrew spoke about the Base X series) to drive four speakers with my Marantz A/V receiver. Quite pleased, it's great. I also purchased a sub and it likewise is great. I am one who sings their praises.
Great review, thank you Andrew & Kristi for the entertainment. Kristi's comments sound exactly like what my wife would say, essentially... why are we still talking about this. My experience with Emotiva was their A800, on my speakers it was way too noisy. I thought for a moment about upgrading to their XPS line to solve it, but after a call to Emotiva, where they offered to evaluate it under warranty, and if they found nothing wrong I'd pay shipping - cheched the spec's, decided it was probably just designed noisy and sold it. Replaced with ATI 6012 and noise-floor problem solved. I still have the ATI, but these days, I use a stereo pair of Hypex FA-123 (active crossover, DSP, and power) DIY Linkwitz LXmini and stereo pair of Phoenix(alt) open-baffle subwoofers - FA-123's power everything including the subs. The FA's have even lower noise floor than ATI - ear on the driver totally black background.
Like many, one system does all, multi channel video and two channel music. I use a 3 channel amp for my LCR's. Your discussion comparing amp power to vehicle torque was appropriate. The Denon x3600h i have is rated at 105 watts for each channel. I now use an Adcom 6300 amplifier to drive the LCR's and the Denon x3600h reciever to power the surrounds. The Adcom is rated 100 watts x 3 60 watts x 2. Adding the 100 watt Adcom greatly improved the listening experience. Tighter better detail, dynamics and bass.
If you have moderate or lower sensitivity but really nice speakers it would be very tempting to get a set of these Emotiva amps to really explore what they can do.
When does all the spending and upgrades end? When do we just be happy and enjoy what we own and focus on the music? It’s crazy. Nonetheless, nice job with the channel.
if you're an Audiophile , it never ends . if you're a music lover it never starts ,,, well not true , anybody can become an addict at any point in their life so stay alert .if you find your self listening to your gear instead of the music , check into rehab as soon as possible .
Amen to that. I agree 110%. Sadly I know several gear addicts and listen to gear only addicts even though they would never admit it. They also spend like drunken sailors, despite their less than optimal financial situation. Oh well, rainy days are most likely ahead so they will have to learn the hard way.
I am separates guy. Actually, I'm a both guy, separates and integrated, but integrated with the ability to go separates. The main reason for that is because I love hometheater/Stereo gear. I want all the pieces I can get. My rooms are relatively small, I don't need a power amplifier. I certainly don't listen at reference levels often, maybe once in a blue moon. Still, power amps are so freaking sweet! So yeah, I'd lie to myself about how much better my systems would be if I had them. Actually, there some practicality reasons for wanting separates or integrateds with separation features. I like the flexibiity they provide. My Technics integrated amp doesn't have subwoofer outputs or bass management, but it does have preamp outputs. With that I can add a minidsp flex between the Technics and a power amp and it would allow me to add subs and do full bass management. Beyond that I could download dirac softwater to the flex and add room correction to my system. Before the Technics, I , briefly, had an Outlaw 2160 MK II which had a pre-out main-in loop and a external processor loop which could let me use the minidsp on the Outlaw's internal amp or with an external amp. So yeah, separates or integrateds with separation features are the best. Now as for Emotiva's style, let's tread lightly now. I'd be okay with an all silver chasis, or maybe some slight angles, but no weird shapes. And I know some people don't like the blue lights, but we need to be caerful with that as well. I'd be on board with Red, green or even purple but not warm white/ pure white lights. There is nothing more ubiquitous than warm white or pure white lights. It's all around us: ligt bulbs, headlights, flash lights, blinkies on computers etc. I'm looking at my printer next to me and it has a power button with a bright, white light. The same as my CD player and soundbar in the living room. I'd be okay if they did something like what's on my SMSL desktop amp/dac where I change the color of the LCD screen to a color of my liking, just no standard warm white or bright white lights. One question about power amps with variable gain. What's the reason for them and how do you know where to set them?
I recently upgraded my crown xls 2502 to a Rotel Michi S5 to drive my dynaudios (a rather crazy jump up, yes I know, but that's just how great the crown's have been for me). The crown's were really great with my low efficiency powerhungry dyn's and I would definitely recommend them in a heartbeat. But the Michis just takes it to another level with better details and tighter bass, especially at lower volumes. But then the Michis are a bit on the both wallet-emptying and back-breaking side of things (actually great price/weight ratio ;) )
I'm not surprised that when you get better distortion and S/N figures clarity improves, which is something I would expect from the Michi. That's great that you've found a worthwhile upgrade. Thanks so much for sharing!
Another great review, although I’m 4 month’s tardy in watching! Loved your explanation of an amps power analogy to torque in a motor. About six months ago I went from and integrated receiver to separates. Upped the power to 160 wax from 50. Was a little worried that I might damage my vintage JBL L100 century classics (circa 1976) but am now a lot more secure given your explanation. Thanks to you and Kristi for doing what you do, bringing some clarity and solid advice into the world of highly individualized tastes (and biases lol)
Great review, Andrew! I'm glad you covered the subject of the advantages of having large amounts of power on tap, especially for more difficult to drive loudspeakers like the Paradigm Reserve Series. This gives you the flexibility of experimenting with some of the more exotic loudspeaker designs out there, such as the Wilson Watts and be able to be assured that those designs won't be deprived of sufficient power reserves.
The idea of High Current vs Watt didn’t sink in until I picked up the Willsenton R8 Integrated Tube amp. Was running a PeachTree Class D Integrated amp prior at over twice the R8’s Watt output. The R8 made my NHT speakers (6ohm 86db) sing vs the PeachTree, I was really stunned.
After 34 years of mid to high end audio gear, this year I finally went in a different direction. I sold my Hegel H190, Buchardt S400 Gen 1 and Gen 1 LS 50’s, Marantz TT, Cambridge CX-81 - replaced it all with the LS50 W2 and sometimes using my ancient Def SuperCube II sub - For my setup, couldn’t be happier! C
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QOTD: Do you like separates or prefer the simplicity of integrated:After 20 years of integrated amps, I just recently moved to separates. For the last year it's been with my AVR in preamp mode. This month I moved to a full pre-pro setup, and I am absolutely blown away and on the separates team now. In a different listening room, I am still using integrated. But in that room its stereo only and I get enough power from the AVR and it is not a primary room (it's my home brewery). I cannot justify the cost in a non-primary room.
I have two integrated amps, one for my desktop system (Burson Timekeeper 3i) and one for my living room system (Hegel H120). If I had more space, I'd 100% go separates for the living room. because of it being easier to match and upgrade electronics down the line. A lot of the Audiophile fun is kind of tinkering with gear I suppose. I've had my fair share of low cost gear (about $500 or less), and based on this experience I wouldn't buy cheap stuff again. The difference to my ears was significant, so our opinions are quite different in this matter! In all fairness though, I haven't tried any Emotiva amp to this day.
I grew up in the separates were better era though I never owned any. I have been a receiver or integrated owner. As far as I can tell, the delta between a quality integrated and a quality separate amp and preamp is really small. Most of us would not hear the difference or would have to work very hard to hear it. Having the reserve power is very important. Thanks!
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We will have a marantz sr8015 review?
My issue with the industry regarding monoblocks and separate components in general is the preamp. A good quiet separate preamp with all the modern convenient connections is crazy money that I refuse to justify. So I use my separate power amp like you, with a Marantz receiver as the preamp.
@@thiagodelgado3128 Yes
@@nagumaninagu9368 Well, the amplifier we're reviewing here is a great amplifier. Can you get it in India?
I was a representative for Parasound and many other well known brands for years. Sold the multiple Parasound amps years ago and replaced them with an Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2 of equal wattage for my Paradigm Reference Studio V5 towers and home theater setup. This was an immediate upgrade in trerms of dynamics, low volume sounding more fleshed out and never any hint of strain while sounding better than any previous cable/source upgrades I had tried over the years. Like Andrew I was lucky enough to be in the biz and was sent multiple products to evaluate and/or demonstrate including exotic car priced components. Emotiva is a well designed, built and fantastic sounding amplifier for both my 2 channel music listening and home theater needs without breaking the bank. Love your videos and it helps me keep up with what's new these days. Thanks to you both and keep telling the truth!
@Taco Not necessarily, though having that extra "torque" or more amperes of current is always better than running an amp at it's extremes. This can most certainly involve soundstage, low and high level dynamics and more full bodied overall sound. Room response and speaker placement are very important to this in particular.
@@daveycrockett5738 We don't shame people for their choices on this channel. There's really no need.
@@daveycrockett5738Sounds like you are a Parasound fan, congratulations on your system synergy. I did mention it was equal in power and with some very nice equipment in the chain as well. I and several audio friends all preferred the Emotivas' sound overall for both music and movies compared to the John Curl designed Parasound which is more laid back and less involving. Once again in our opinion which may differ than yours. You may like horn speakers and I do not which used to be ok to have differing opinions and not be shamed for them. Reminds me of when I was the rep for Precision Power car audio amplifiers and hooked up a new well regulated car amp (egad) on a power supply and battery powering Wilson tower speakers, that costed way more than my car, and covered it all with a sheet before the employees saw that it was not a Jeff Rowland, Krell, Pass etc. The oohs and ahhs were like something from a wine tasting until their minds couldn't compute how good amplifier circuit design topology comes into play and the importance of a proper power supply. The car amplifier had a much higher damping factor than their normal "holy grail amps" and they all heard woofer control and speed that they had been missing before. Suddenly some very jaded ultra high end home audio salesmen wanted to order some PPI amps and processors for their cars..lol. They also learned perceived notions of higher priced equipment being superior due to reputation or just price alone are often proved incorrect in a blind test. Buy an Emotiva, ATI, Monolith or similarly built units and swap between your Parasound and you might find you prefer one over the other. PS: NASA, the US Military, British Aerospace Systems (BAE) and many other experts in their respective fields chose me to design and implement rather complex A/V systems using my knowledge and experience in the industry. So not really hanging my head in shame because you have a financial attachment to your purchase so strong that you can't fathom a factory direct sales model can beat the prices of paying the reps like me hefty commissions and a substantial profit left for the dealer. Live and learn I guess. Enjoy your music and your life ahead !
@@mikelanier5617 I agree with you 100%. It’s amazing how people get so biased based on a price tag or brand. A colleague once loaned me a Parasound Halo Hint integrated. I connected it to my system and was like.. I don’t like this. Same thing happened with a Manley Chinook phono stage that I was also loaned. Didn’t liked that laid back sound at all. Turns out that I like the sound of my Denon amp with an entry level iFi phono stage. Sometimes a hefty price tag only means big commissions paid to a bunch of middle men or a bigger profit margin for the company and not necessarily higher quality components or circuitry.
I just picked up a hunk of parasound metal two days ago. I love it, I've only had some $1k integrateds (a few) previous to this purchase so it's been a substantial upgrade and so far loving it.
Your comment did make me question my whole life a bit, lol,.. but I know that wasn't your intention and of course I know that I didn't buy something that was meant to be the last word in quality or high end. I didn't even buy the high end JC model.
Anyhow. Your post and this review is actually most encouraging. As it puts in stark contrast the money that can be spent, and the relative enjoyment that can still be had with far more modest costing setups.
Am I glad I still bought and get to live with this parasound piece for some time? Absolutely! But it's also great to know there are other avenues that can be pursued that don't have to be explored by continually injecting greater sums of money to experience.
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Have an older Emotiva BASX 5175 (125 WPC x 5) and I'm absolutely impressed with the amp. Sounds beautiful, gobs of power, absolutely silent and no matter how hard you push, it never gets hot.
Sounds like a well-built beast. Appreciate you sharing!
Been considering Emotiva monoblocks for the past few years. You sold me! Thank you Andrew! Seperates all the way - for serious listening. Casual listening - it doesn't matter.
Hope you enjoy them as much as I have!
I bought a pair of Emotiva XPA HC-1 monoblocks to drive my Magnepan 1.7 speakers. I agree 100% with this reviewer, Emotiva delivered clean, uncontaminated power to my Maggies at all volumes, tremendous sound stage and imaging, transparent vocal and instrument separation, and excellent linearity. One thing you'll notice right away is how grippy the sound is with 600 watts of high current power. For the price, I think this Emotiva is an amazing bargain, especially for hard to drive speakers like Magnepan.
I'm so happy somebody accurately reviewed the HC1. I absolutely LOVE mine. My living room is huge and the HC1s pushing my Ulfberhts absolutely fills the room with sound.
Great review! You really damaged some people's egos in the comments with the truth 🤣🤣🤣. Some people can't handle other people getting the same exact performance for a fraction of the cost. Keep it up. You're helping bring the cost of audio down and we appreciate it. These companies watch, I know it.
I love my new Polk Audio Legend L600s powered by the Emotiva DR2. At 4 ohms there is 800 wpc on tap. I also have the Polk Audio L400 center channel powered by the Emotiva DR1 monoblock and at 4 ohms it has 1000 watts on tap. This is the most impressive system that I have ever owned now that I am retired and spend a lot of time listening to music.
That was one of the best reviews/explanation of power that i think i've ever heard. Thank you,
Hey Andrew, thanks for putting this out there... I went and bought a pair! even though I only recently bought the Denafrips Thallo (120w into 8ohms)
HOLY TOLEDO BATMAN!! what a difference mono blocks make. I was worried that there may not be much of a change in sound quality, considering the excellent sound from the Thallo.
The Emotiva blocks woke up my PMC speakers, separation, sound stage size, clarity, details & BASS are all improved. I guess that's why we see mono blocks in high end systems at Hifi shows.
Now I need to sell the Thallo, I know you mentioned you prefer the simplicity of Intergrated amps (I understand I'm a designer) but I don't think I can give up how powerful Mono blocks control sound...
Quality Power = Better Control, absolutely! And a big thumbs up to Kristi's contributions to this review.
I have preferred and enjoyed separate power since I purchased a Carver C-11/TFM-15 set in the early 90s. Many formats and sources have come and gone, but the TFM-15 (refreshed) remains an active part of my listening.
Thanks, Reid!
I just love Polk audio and emotiva , I can have amazing sound for not an insane amount of money! I'm very grateful . Have a great day, !
I really appreciate the manner you conduct your reviews Andrew with articulation and thorough information for viewers and I also appreciate how you bring Kristi in and allow Kristi to share another perspective respectively and patiently allow another sharing of valued input. I prefer the integrated amps as well. Hope to see a review on the Polk Reserve Series R700 Floorstanding tower speaker.
I just connected an Emotiva 5 channel XPA to my Polk R700’s and could not believe an AMP could improve a top Yamaha receiver’s performance as it did….its a new world, i hear sounds i never heard before & if you like bass, well…..amazing!!!
I really enjoyed this review, the analogy of torque versus horsepower in regards to amplification was spot on. I am a supporter of separate components. I recently made the switch from a Marantz SR18 reciever to Nad C162 preamp and C272 power amp combination. A coworker heard the system fell in love and had to have it, so I sold it to her. I am now running a Primare Pre30 preamp and A32 power amp which raised the power from 150 watts to 250 per channel. The added power was instantly noticeable, so much dynamics and effortless finesse. The preamp gave me the ability to gain match each input no matter what kind of components were being used.
Hi Andrew. I have the Emotiva XPA GEN 3 Modular Power Amplifier with just the 2 basic channels. I bought this amplifier as a replacement to my Rotel RB-1582MK 11 stereo power amplifier in case it "kicks the bucket". The Rotel has a slightly "warm" sound which complements the LS50 Metas. The Emotiva sound neutral. The Preamp i am using with both power amps is a Goldmund tube line level preamp designed after the famous Marantz 7. It is important to note that you can damage a loudspeaker with less power than with more. Preamps that are separate from power amps tend to degrade the source signal less than integrated amplifiers which share some of the components.
In 2003 i was switching to a home theater system, i sold my Adcom GFA5500 to my cousin, couldn't afford to add the GFA5500 3 which was over $1200. Looked on Ebay, found a Carver AV 705x amplifier, looked up reviews and liked what I saw. For $450 i got this beast of an amp 45lbs. When I hooked it up, one channel was out. Contacted the seller who offered me a full refund or would send it to be repaired at a Carver authorized repair and would pay for it. 3 weeks later I got it back and all I could say was WOW. That amplifier is still powering my Infinity Interlude suite of speakers IL 50s, IL 10s and IL25C. It's quiet, runs cool and drives my speakers to theater and concert levels without breaking a sweat. Only upgrade was the Preamp from a Rotel to a newer Marantz and the sound has only gotten better.
capacity to provide instantaneous current is a HUGE demand. This is what tests amplifiers and fits your analogy of torque from a motor. It is relevant.
The topology of power supply and the storage for current provision is what I think too many amplifiers compromise for reduced cost or to fit a constrained space.
I haven't heard it, but I bet the Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 3 may be the sweet spot here. A few hundred $ cheaper than the monoblocks and still loads of power.
I would absolutely love to get a new video explaining amplification as it would majorly help with my job. Being able to explain why more amplification is better with realistic examples like you gave can really help a customer make a better purchase. It would go a long way to include the differences on classes of amplifiers as well!
@Douglas Blake I was just commenting as a reply to his question of a video idea at the end
I am an Emotiva xpa-9 g3 5-2s owner. I love it, you described so much about why I love my amp. thanks, look forward to more!
You ask for comments about separates or integrated. I am 67 and back in the 70's I loved my separates, and I loved my Klipsch Corner Horns for fronts and my Klipsch La Scala’s for rears, yes this was the era of 4-channel surround systems. I loved the Klipsch so much that I brought them with me to Germany when I was in the Army and everywhere I went for the next 20 plus years. However, in the 90s I went back to 2-channel quality sound buying my first integrated the Yamaha DSP A1, I fell in love, it had it all. No, I don't believe you have to spend more than $3500 for an integrated, there is a clear point of diminishing returns. In the 2005 timeframe, I sold my Klipsch speakers and I will forever regret it. I also sold my Technics SL-1000MKII SP-10MK2 Direct Drive Turntable EPA-100, SP-10 MK2, and SH-10E, also regretting it. So, I left the audio world behind for sixteen years, for many reasons, however, I always felt my life was lacking as a result, music is so therapeutic. Finally, when I retired I was thinking about trying to build another system. Two of my sons and I took on a project building a 450 pound folded horn enclosure modelling after the Klipsch, in the form factor of a large coffee table using two 12” dual voice coil subs powered by a 1200 watt Yamaha Power Amp with a DBX Sub Synthesizer, which I connected wirelessly using Martin Logan 2.4Mhz transceiver connected to my old, yes my faithful Yamaha DSP A1, my speakers are polar opposite to the Klipsch as I got a deal on a pair of Martin Logan ESL Impression 11A speakers, at 4ohms I was getting 180 per channel. I needed it even though the speakers are actively powered with 250 watts internal amps. I can't tell you how balanced and totally quiet my system sounds in terms of distortion, but the subs are never set above 3, and it is amazing, I can go into all the typical audiophile speak here, but I won't bore you, let's just say I have not heard anything that delivers quality music like this unless you are spending six figures and I still think you would be hard-pressed. I did start thinking, as most do, is there anything I am missing, I pondered this question for the next year and then I went out and purchased a midrange DEVIALET integrated, and while I love so much about this unit for all the right reasons, I go back to my Yamaha DSP A1 every time, so the DEVIALET was relegated to my bedroom system. I know you must be thinking he is crazy, but you have to sit and listen, it will blow you away. Oh and yes I finally got a deal on another Technics SL-1000MKII SP-10MK2 Direct Drive Turntable EPA-100, SP-10 MK2, SH-10E, I had it upgraded with all the recommended board-level comments and had it serviced. Between the vinyl and WIFI streaming from various quality sources, my music experience is pure happiness. Oh yes, I also added the Jasmine Audio LP2.5DU MM/MC Phono Preamplifier, a great MC cartridge and cables, not a crazy expensive one as I think it gets ridiculous quickly. Yes, the Yamaha DSP A1 is untouchable at the eBay price of around $400, if a 2-channel system is all you want you just can’t beat it. But to be very honest my setup would not be so exciting if not for the folded horn loaded sub my sons and I built, I wish you could hear it. Even though my integrated is missing the HDMI inputs, I have no problems re-creating great blue-ray Home Theater quality movie experiences with this system.
My simple conclusion is don’t get sucked into the marketing hype, there is only what is in the original signal to be reproduced, period, anything else added is at your own risk. A few examples are cables, speakers spikes and component vibration Isolation devices, so much here is total nonsense.
Listening experience: BEYOND WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID When I switch between sources or tracks and my system levels on the DSP A1 is 70% and the Sub amp is 27%, I can hear a pin drop there, is zero distortion/noise, that’s my ultimate litmus test. When I had my Klipsch speakers I used a DB meter and I can attest to a listening level above 105db, now it's more about quality sound stage presence, and imaging. My music tastes are eclectic, when I listen to pentatonic, I am smiling or Jazz and classical the same is true, even with Led Zeppelin, I am more than satisfied, any questions I think I have were in my own head.
I bought the Emotiva BasX PT1 pre-amp and BasX A2 amp (175 wpc) and they brought wonder to my speakers. And the combo was less than $1,000. I am sold on these guys and happy that they are American owned as well. Good review, Andrew and Kristi!
So glad to hear you found a setup that worked for you! Appreciate you sharing.
One of the best uses of a separate amp is with an AV receiver for the two front channels when the AV receiver has pre outs.
In that case, do you think to use a separate DAC ? Would you do it in a Marantz.?
Best explanation about power and not needing to really hit a speaker with it to get the most from a speaker. I have for decades felt the same way. As you've said a quality amp although powerful does need the volume control maxed out to get the speakers to "sing". Point well made and a reason to get a powerful amp and yet not use it to bring down the house!
Hello Andrew,
Thank You for this review of the HC-1. I bought a pair of these last year to pair with my new Magnepan LRS, I absolutely Love the combination. I also scored a couple Schiit Vidars which I switch back and forth between the LRS and some Vintage 1986 Klipsch La Scalas, but I digress.
You asked the question, Separates or Integrated/Receivers. I'm probably a bit older and a product of the 70's Receiver Wars. When I graduated High School in 1974 I was set on obtaining a Marantz or Pioneer Receiver or Integrated Amp. I joined The US Military to jump start my spending career on Audio equipment. In 1977 I found myself in Okinawa Japan, where actual Separates were a fraction of US prices and not costing much more than Receivers of the day, that were very inexpensive in Japan as well. The base I was stationed at even had an Audio Hobby Shop where you could audition all kinds of audio equipment. I dedicated the entire year of 1978 to auditioning Amps, Pre-Amps, Integrated Amps, and Receivers, not to mention Speakers. Of course I choose a speaker First, The Pioneer HPM 150. I then figured out what equipment made my speakers sound THE BEST!!! Hands Down it was The Separates that Won The Day. I chose The Pioneer Spec 1&4 Pre-Amp/Amp combination, 150 Watts/Channel@ 8 Ohms. Unheard of Power for this era. I feel you were Spot-On with your Torque Analogy, this is Exactly why I choose Separates in 1978. The Dynamic Range of the Spec 4 was just Effortless at Any Sound Level, it was just so obvious to me back then. I've stayed in this Camp Ever Since, 40 Plus Years and counting. Pioneer to Soundcraftsmen to Carver to Adcom to Emotiva and Schiit Audio. You Gotta Love Separates!
D. Scott
Houston, Texas
Hi D.Scott. I have LRS Maggie's too, but need to get an amp and am trying to decide between the hc1s or schiit vidars. Have you tried both with your LRS? I really appreciate the opinions!
@@rjbean13 Hello RJ... I can recommend both of these outstanding Amps but the key for me is the Monoblock configuration if the budget allows. Aesthetically I think the HC-1 has the slightly better appearance but the Vidar is pretty awesome looking as well. Again you can't go wrong with either especially in a Monoblock setup.
I have to say, I like Kristi asking questions on behalf of the viewer at the end. It reminds me of Kevin from This Old House. He was hired to ask the questions the audience might have.
She's always got your guys' back in the end!
Thank you, Tim!
This was one of your better topic videos this year. Enjoyed much and learned stuff :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'll have to disagree with your wife this time. Your emotiva review was not too long. I absolutely love your presentations. The details of your listening experience are so important for two reasons. Most have no opportunity to listen to it compare various units. Secondly i get bored off sites that spend most of their time on specs. Specs don't really tell you how something is going to sound. Certainly won't give you a clue on the type of experience you'll have.
Comparing the sound of a unit specifically to others also gives us a point of reference. Now that you've reviewed the Emotiva mono blocks, I'm hoping you will review other "affordable" options and as always compare your listening experience to the other amps you've listened to. This is so helpful and meaningful. You and Christine are my favorite reviewers. Thanks
Well I have something to say.... Got a pair of these, actually took me awhile to try them, and once I did well they were simply not my cup of tea.... Disconnected them and life went on... Lately I started to get more new equipment that forced me to go all balanced in and out....and I really liked the results...so I've been going through all my equipment that as balanced inputs... Totally forgot that these do that...one day I gave them a try and omg! Its like a different amp! Today these are one of my favorite amps! So happy that I didn't return them! Probably one of the best deals today! Just my 2 Satoshis... Can't recommend enough.
Mr Robinson, great review, have always liked and eyeballed the concept of the Emotiva mono amplifiers smaller and larger ones . Currently just picked a gently used Emotiva PT 100 preamp/ tuner. Youve solidified some things for my consideration of the Emotiva mono blocks. Enjoyed this review, it was thorough in showing people what more powerful amps truly mean and it’s not just loudness or more frequency exaggeration but quality and realism! 💯💯🙏🏾 much appreciation to you
Agree with your comments on clean power. I run a Musical Fidelity M6 500i integrated, 500w per channel dual monos in a single cabinet. Life is about compromises. This amp will drive anything cleanly and negates need for seperate interconnects etc. I'm satisfied and that's what matters. Keep up the great work.
I bet that amp just rocks! We still very much like our M5si.
I think that when you and Kristi did your final thoughts at the end will be very helpful to a lot of people. I believe the subject of high sensitive speakers isn't talked about enough..that high sensitive speakers aren't reviewed enough. Or maybe there just aren't many being made anymore..I don't know if that's true or not but I very rarely, if ever, hear about them. Everything new these days in an affordable range is low ohm low sensitivity, needing more power. I love the idea and look of integrated amplifiers, but due to my speakers dipping into the high 3 ohm's along with their 86db sensitivity rating I have to use that external or "separate" amplifier to get them to their full potential. Great review by the way 👍
I’ve always liked Emotiva. I’m definitely going to use one of their amps for my Atmos setup. Great review as always!
Let us know what you ultimately decide on. Thanks for watching!
I've had my Emotiva XPA5 and my RPA2 for about 7 years now. They've been rock solid, and honestly as heavy as a rock too. No complaints with them at all. They even heat the room in the winter too :) My Kef towers have no issue playing clearly much louder than I'd ever want to listen at. The amps seem to be built like tanks, I'd buy from Emotiva again....if I wanted the A/B design. The Crown XLS are intriguing though.
Great comment at the end of the video. I'm running 98 db sensitivity speakers with 575 watt mono blocks. I have hit 103 db at -30 db on the dial during cercendowes. At -40 db on the dial I'm around 80 to 85 db. Just effortless sound
Kristi's so funny! LOL "2 minutes".....
Ive been a fan of integrateds since Symphonic Line's RG9 when I walked into a high performance shop here in Kansas City. Of course, NAD "little bugger" 3020 was more accessible and I had one way back when.
Simplicity of an integrated amplifier for sure. As always I enjoyed the review guys.
Same. Thanks for joining us!
Omg white R700s!!! Never knew this color was available for the flagship. I got the black ones
That's what I was looking at, I am a sucker for white speakers 😏. I'm saving up for the arendals unless something cheaper comes along that can compete with it
i completely agree about polk speakers being hungry for power . they are like a super fit athlete that NEEDS a minimum amount of calories in order to perform at their optimum level . when i had my SDAs back in the eighties the salesman explained the same thing, that those speakers need premium high octane fuel to sound good so he recommended the carver magnetic field amp which did the trick .
(in lil Jon's voice) Whaaaaaaaat???!!! Andrew, 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 not only did we get a power amp review but a mono block power amp 👍🏽👊🏽 thank you Sir. So the question is will this be the only one this year or will we see the newer Outlaw 2200 mono block? Btw it's as slim as an old school fm tuner 😉
I think I understand your explanation on power but want to be sure. The Polks recommended power is 100 watts but with a higher watt amp, like the Emotiva at 300 watts, insures the speaker gets much cleaner power, reduces chances of distortion or hurting the speaker at higher volumes and brings the most out of the speaker at lower volumes? Great job as always! Continued thanks for you and Kristi do.
Nailed it!
Yeah, still not hooking these to my esl57. Depends on the speaker if they like or can handle the power. I have seen a few ribbon tweeters going up in smoke from a too powerful amp. So handle with care and check what is possible/agreeable first
Finally someone reviews these. Thank you sir. I'm on to Parasound now, but these deserve a look.
Torque would equal headroom for dynamics and lower distortion. A definite need in any and all film soundtracks and especially in music.
We're a Sears-Roebuck suit and some pomade away from Ward Cleaver, and yet "Freak on a Leash." Totally surreal.
Seriously... your reviews are great. When your looking for the perfect sound... $ is not the driving force.. performance is.
I owned an Emotiva and Outlaw Audio wasnt there for music . Purchased a used Bryston 4bsst2 with 12 years more on the warranty. Nothing but smiles . Pray and I hope Emotiva will be around for the repair.
I enjoyed this video so much, I watched it twice... on the trot 😁
I think it was that torque analogy that done it for me.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
I dreamed that I saw a young Andrew in an Emotiva educational video...
I woke and ordered this...
Emotiva Amp XPA-DR1 pair, and Emotiva-DAC, XDA-3 Differential Reference. 🙏
The way you explained it Andrew, it made me realize I'm good without an amp, and others might benefit with one. Thank you both for all your honest and great reviews.
Glad you found it helpful!
Great review. I've been thinking about these HC-1s and now I'm totally sold. Thanks.
Im integrated all the way....I like the emotiva basx5
Kristi is great! "It works; we're done!" Thanks Andrew and Kristi. Another fabulous and informative review.
Since you asked, I am "separates all the way."
I recently purchased a recently refurbished Vintage Luxman L-430 amplifier. It has 0.015% THD, 110dB S/N ratio and delivers more than 105watts into 8 ohms. It's the most neutral amp I have ever heard and will do me for the foreseeable future.
Nice job! Are we getting a dedicated R700 review? They are on my short list for sure!
That's the plan!
Just started this review/ video. So prior to completing my viewing of your:
I am looking for more power.
However, I want my whole system to be a musically forgiving system, which plays well recorded music; but allows for musical enjoyment of all the not-so-well recorded music I love so much.
My preference is integrated amp. Your analogy to engine torque vs amp reserve power is easily understood and spot on.
great presentation.thanks
There is an event coming up in July called MWAVE (Midwest AV Experience) were we get to blind audition different amps and receivers against each other and see what listeners like. It’ll be interesting as we get o compare some flagship systems and some very budget systems.
Come on out to KS and join us!
I have recently added separates to both of my systems and it's remarkable how more dynamic the sound difference is. I was always a receiver is just as good don't believe the hype, but my speakers and ears bed to differ!!
Hello, love to see these videos of other guys rooms as I’m building a very humble room myself. Keep them coming.
Also, big thanks for your video last year about your pioneer sx 780 upgrade from Just Audio. Their channel is awesome, and just wanted to thank you for making me aware.
So glad! They're good people!
I appreciate that you are honest and explain that buying a more expensive amp is not going to give you better performance I my self would go for the crown 👑 for less money and max performance at least you said that and it’s a true statement you are not like most you tubers that are in one camp or the other.
Appreciate that Michael!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thanks Andrew I have subbed for the reason above ☝️ I was watching a video yesterday and a guy not mentioning any names thought Geoff Roland makes the best amps period they are good I guess but the best I have a friend that builds amps 10000 watts and for less money and trust me Roland’s don’t have a chance
Awesome video... honesty... open window... fresh air. Emotiva makes great stuff! Basx TA1 stereo integrated... is a Killer at $550. They do lack bells and features... no HD tuner, no built in usb, no media skills. But crazy clean power at blue collar price.
I love the way you talk in the video and your dynamic with your wife is very charming. I have a question, what mic are you using to record your voice when speaking
Like the "one Machine" approach. Order for a NAD C399 with BluOS Modul is placed 😉
Emotiva lost me as a customer when my 4 year old Xpa2 gen 2 started making crackle noises out of both channels.
After paying 200$ to ship it back to them for warranty I was told my speakers (same, and only one I have ever used on that amp) were too efficient and that's why I can hear the defect. They told me I shouldn't be using such a power amplifier of klipsch speakers.
I asked kindly for them to just fix the problem, which they did and it was returned to me at no charge.
After the repair the amplifier was quiet again.
Upon doing some Google research, this is a common defect on this amplifier likely due to low quality part selection.
I really don't understand why this stuff is put on a pedestal it truly does not belong.
It sounds like E. honored its warranty and fixed the defect. Why are you unhappy?
Should the word “budget” be used for a $1000 power amp that only handles half your stereo?
Those white polks look fire 🔥
Andrew and Kristi, thank you for a very down-to-earth and helpful video! I took notes and am ready for the quiz lol!
QOTD-> Integrated amp please
Awesome! Thank you!
Having more power to cover dynamics is like how Tesla or most all other electric cars handle torque on-demand throughout their entire range of speed. It is always a good thing.
More power I want that but can't find a good review about emotiva xpa Dr series, that would be interesting review, getting 3 of these will cost about 300€ more, which is best, 3 hc1 or dr3,eny tips?
Hello Andrew, it is amazing how much I have learned from you.. I thank you Sir 🙏🙏 - a new subscriber here.
Thanks and welcome!
I really appreciated this review. It helped my decision to order a pair of these. I feel like an expectant father waiting on delivery of the twins tomorrow!
Glad I could help!
How do you like them?
@@palerider55 I love them! Super clear, detailed power with great sound. Even my wife noticed how much better the system sounded. I would buy them again in a heartbeat!
Great video! I was strongly considering buying an amp from the Parasound Halo line but after watching this i definitely need to look more closely at Emotiva. Your comparisons and break downs of quality are very helpful.
Man, I laughed out loud at the Emotiva dig. I could feel the history. To their defense though, when you put out amps like they do at that price for years, you can style however you want. But an update would be nice. That company 100% deserves love for bringing quality amps at an insane price to us budget folks
I play my ml esl xs on these and it sounds fantastic. Even on stats they don’t struggle, and as you say they are transparent which is what you want with critical listening on stats. Love the review, agree with you.
That's good to know. I think I will buy a pair tomorrow to power my Aerius i's. After the trial period, if I like them, I'll probably buy three more to power the center and surrounds.
My dad always had good audio equipment, built his own speakers, and so I was exposed to "hi-fi" at a young age and have always appreciated it. I worked my way up from the typical Cerwin-Vega/Pioneer SX-xxx (went through several), Dual turntable in college through several system iterations until the separates I have now. I actually have an Emotiva XPA-7 which replaced a Carver 5 channel a while back. I'm an old school, separates guy. I do agree about your "power is torque" comparison. Although I have a set of Klipsch Heresy's running off the Emotiva's now, I got my JBL L96's back last year after my dad passed. (I gave them to him when CRT TV's were the norm and the magnets played havoc with the picture.) The woofers had been re-coned a few years ago, and after I got them back from Just Audio, who replaced the twist-lock speaker binding posts with 5 ways, sweet cheese louise! I actually prefer them to the Heresy's and the Miller and Kreisel (MK) 125's I also have. The power makes all the difference. (Your automotive comparison reminded me of Top Gear. POWER!) Nice review of a kind of boring topic.
I get it, reviewing power amps aren't sexy but for those with A.V.P.'s or power hungry speakers we need to know your opinion ! It's so good to see you doing them until of course powered speakers with DSP become more mainstream. Thx dude 👍🏼
Great videos! Useful content. Great personality. Helpful, relevant comparisons. I was on the fence about the Emotiva HC1 monoblocks. Your video helped me decide to get them! Keep up the great work!
Glad it was helpful!
It is rare that you can still find quality and price, but Emotiva is doing it. I love the amp I purchased from them (after Andrew spoke about the Base X series) to drive four speakers with my Marantz A/V receiver. Quite pleased, it's great. I also purchased a sub and it likewise is great. I am one who sings their praises.
Thanks for sharing! Their subs are very good!
Great review, thank you Andrew & Kristi for the entertainment. Kristi's comments sound exactly like what my wife would say, essentially... why are we still talking about this. My experience with Emotiva was their A800, on my speakers it was way too noisy. I thought for a moment about upgrading to their XPS line to solve it, but after a call to Emotiva, where they offered to evaluate it under warranty, and if they found nothing wrong I'd pay shipping - cheched the spec's, decided it was probably just designed noisy and sold it. Replaced with ATI 6012 and noise-floor problem solved. I still have the ATI, but these days, I use a stereo pair of Hypex FA-123 (active crossover, DSP, and power) DIY Linkwitz LXmini and stereo pair of Phoenix(alt) open-baffle subwoofers - FA-123's power everything including the subs. The FA's have even lower noise floor than ATI - ear on the driver totally black background.
Like many, one system does all, multi channel video and two channel music. I use a 3 channel amp for my LCR's. Your discussion comparing amp power to vehicle torque was appropriate. The Denon x3600h i have is rated at 105 watts for each channel. I now use an Adcom 6300 amplifier to drive the LCR's and the Denon x3600h reciever to power the surrounds. The Adcom is rated 100 watts x 3 60 watts x 2. Adding the 100 watt Adcom greatly improved the listening experience. Tighter better detail, dynamics and bass.
If you have moderate or lower sensitivity but really nice speakers it would be very tempting to get a set of these Emotiva amps to really explore what they can do.
It is a fun experiment to try separate amplifiers regardless of the brand to see how your speakers respond.
When does all the spending and upgrades end? When do we just be happy and enjoy what we own and focus on the music? It’s crazy. Nonetheless, nice job with the channel.
if you're an Audiophile , it never ends .
if you're a music lover it never starts ,,, well not true , anybody can become an addict at any point in their life so stay alert .if you find your self listening to your gear instead of the music , check into rehab as soon as possible .
Amen to that. I agree 110%. Sadly I know several gear addicts and listen to gear only addicts even though they would never admit it. They also spend like drunken sailors, despite their less than optimal financial situation. Oh well, rainy days are most likely ahead so they will have to learn the hard way.
I am separates guy. Actually, I'm a both guy, separates and integrated, but integrated with the ability to go separates. The main reason for that is because I love hometheater/Stereo gear. I want all the pieces I can get. My rooms are relatively small, I don't need a power amplifier. I certainly don't listen at reference levels often, maybe once in a blue moon. Still, power amps are so freaking sweet! So yeah, I'd lie to myself about how much better my systems would be if I had them.
Actually, there some practicality reasons for wanting separates or integrateds with separation features. I like the flexibiity they provide. My Technics integrated amp doesn't have subwoofer outputs or bass management, but it does have preamp outputs. With that I can add a minidsp flex between the Technics and a power amp and it would allow me to add subs and do full bass management. Beyond that I could download dirac softwater to the flex and add room correction to my system. Before the Technics, I , briefly, had an Outlaw 2160 MK II which had a pre-out main-in loop and a external processor loop which could let me use the minidsp on the Outlaw's internal amp or with an external amp. So yeah, separates or integrateds with separation features are the best.
Now as for Emotiva's style, let's tread lightly now. I'd be okay with an all silver chasis, or maybe some slight angles, but no weird shapes. And I know some people don't like the blue lights, but we need to be caerful with that as well. I'd be on board with Red, green or even purple but not warm white/ pure white lights. There is nothing more ubiquitous than warm white or pure white lights. It's all around us: ligt bulbs, headlights, flash lights, blinkies on computers etc. I'm looking at my printer next to me and it has a power button with a bright, white light. The same as my CD player and soundbar in the living room. I'd be okay if they did something like what's on my SMSL desktop amp/dac where I change the color of the LCD screen to a color of my liking, just no standard warm white or bright white lights.
One question about power amps with variable gain. What's the reason for them and how do you know where to set them?
I recently upgraded my crown xls 2502 to a Rotel Michi S5 to drive my dynaudios (a rather crazy jump up, yes I know, but that's just how great the crown's have been for me). The crown's were really great with my low efficiency powerhungry dyn's and I would definitely recommend them in a heartbeat. But the Michis just takes it to another level with better details and tighter bass, especially at lower volumes. But then the Michis are a bit on the both wallet-emptying and back-breaking side of things (actually great price/weight ratio ;) )
I'm not surprised that when you get better distortion and S/N figures clarity improves, which is something I would expect from the Michi. That's great that you've found a worthwhile upgrade. Thanks so much for sharing!
Another great review, although I’m 4 month’s tardy in watching! Loved your explanation of an amps power analogy to torque in a motor. About six months ago I went from and integrated receiver to separates. Upped the power to 160 wax from 50. Was a little worried that I might damage my vintage JBL L100 century classics (circa 1976) but am now a lot more secure given your explanation.
Thanks to you and Kristi for doing what you do, bringing some clarity and solid advice into the world of highly individualized tastes (and biases lol)
Always been an integrated due to less clutter. Love your reviews and your layout. Thank You!
Great review, Andrew!
I'm glad you covered the subject of the advantages of having large amounts of power on tap, especially for more difficult to drive loudspeakers like the Paradigm Reserve Series. This gives you the flexibility of experimenting with some of the more exotic loudspeaker designs out there, such as the Wilson Watts and be able to be assured that those designs won't be deprived of sufficient power reserves.
Andrew can you make a video of your audiophile history. How it started. What r some memorable moments/ products/ experiences along the way
Would be interesting
The idea of High Current vs Watt didn’t sink in until I picked up the Willsenton R8 Integrated Tube amp. Was running a PeachTree Class D Integrated amp prior at over twice the R8’s Watt output. The R8 made my NHT speakers (6ohm 86db) sing vs the PeachTree, I was really stunned.
After 34 years of mid to high end audio gear, this year I finally went in a different direction.
I sold my Hegel H190, Buchardt S400 Gen 1 and Gen 1 LS 50’s, Marantz TT, Cambridge CX-81 - replaced it all with the LS50 W2 and sometimes using my ancient Def SuperCube II sub - For my setup, couldn’t be happier! C
That's great! Sometimes going with less can be so freeing. Enjoy!
Thanks for the review! I appreciated the power metaphor, too. Emotiva is a brand I've been looking at for a while so your opinions were welcome :)
Hello Andrew, I’ve been a big fan for a few years now and thanks to you I’ve been on an amazing journey with new audio gear and experiences. This channel has exposed me to so much and I’m truly thankful. I do however have one small request which I think 90% of your audience would really enjoy. Do you think you can share links to your tidal or Spotify playlists that you use to either test new speakers or just enjoy new gear. I find myself pausing your videos and then going to look for the mentioned song on a streaming service and I just wish we had access to all of them on one place. Sorry if I sound like a needy viewer. Thanks again for all your hard work!
We always link to the music/movies/tv shows we reference in each review. You'll find this information in the video's description.
Your voice is soooo soothing, it saves me a lot from therapy 😂
This review comes at a great time for me. Thanks
So glad you found it helpful!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews i always find your reviews entertaining, but its extra cool when its about something im currently contemplating
QOTD: Do you like separates or prefer the simplicity of integrated:After 20 years of integrated amps, I just recently moved to separates. For the last year it's been with my AVR in preamp mode. This month I moved to a full pre-pro setup, and I am absolutely blown away and on the separates team now.
In a different listening room, I am still using integrated. But in that room its stereo only and I get enough power from the AVR and it is not a primary room (it's my home brewery). I cannot justify the cost in a non-primary room.
I have two integrated amps, one for my desktop system (Burson Timekeeper 3i) and one for my living room system (Hegel H120). If I had more space, I'd 100% go separates for the living room. because of it being easier to match and upgrade electronics down the line. A lot of the Audiophile fun is kind of tinkering with gear I suppose. I've had my fair share of low cost gear (about $500 or less), and based on this experience I wouldn't buy cheap stuff again. The difference to my ears was significant, so our opinions are quite different in this matter! In all fairness though, I haven't tried any Emotiva amp to this day.
I grew up in the separates were better era though I never owned any. I have been a receiver or integrated owner. As far as I can tell, the delta between a quality integrated and a quality separate amp and preamp is really small. Most of us would not hear the difference or would have to work very hard to hear it. Having the reserve power is very important. Thanks!