I think he has lost a great deal of luster now though. The addition of the monsters adds a great deal of lethality. They don’t need Wong to splash anymore than gwenom.
Ranking Rocket above Bullseye is nuts. Bullseye is splashed everywhere, Rocket is almost never splashed. I think Quinn just has PTSD from being shot by Rocket too many times.😅
The Rocket ranking is quite strange; I don't think it was discussed for really long enough. He's obviously a phenomenal staple to Guardians, but I feel like his splash value is very low, and he's basically tied to Groot as a 5-threat package. Ranking him above much more flexible options doesn't really follow the typically-advertised methodology for S vs. A tier.
I think you're over-estimating Rocket. I don't disagree that he's good for a 2 threat, however I have never seen him used outside of GotG. The 2 threats that are most splashed are Toad and Bullseye. I see Okoye taken more than Rocket.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to have thought Shocker was the PERFECT opportunity for a 2 threat (my other choice was Kitty Pride). I think with AMG focusing on 5 threats more, they take up the role of a 2 threat (filling in those odd point values where you'd normally take a 2 and a 3) while being easier to balance, I think we aren't going to see too many more 2 threats for a while. I'm not stoked about it because 2 threats are very unique in how they function and many bring some of the more interesting kits imo, but so it goes.
I *do* really like Bob, sirs. I have had some excellent luck on his "Bob Rocket" rolls, which usually means that I can snag a 3 or 4 threat character on Turn 1 in exchange for Bob, which is an excellent trade for me. Besides that, his pistols are surprisingly effective, and I have been enjoying him with Magneto, which usually means two rockets per game. While I understand that he is not as good as Rocket, I think that he is not actually bad. Rant over.
I’m a total novice here, and I’m sure it would throw off the balance wildly given how good it already is on Toad . . . But I think it’s weird none of the Spider people have the ability to extract from range 2 like he does. It makes perfect sense.
I'll give some unsolicited Bob ideas that have niche applicability: scientific method in hydra gives him a decent attack and defense. Paired with modok or even the new mephisto as a body guard gives you a free scapegoat every turn, giving you the power from the damage consistently to hopefully pop off his bazooka a couple times
Thank you very much for this video. I am currently wondering about the second 2 threat to play in brotherhood in addition to toad and it has just given me arguments.
Great overview! I think honey badger is better in her fighting affiliations: X-Force and Weapon X. Wide weapon X is pretty good actually, honey badger just boosts that team up.
I feel people in comments are underestimating Bob. If you are playing wide the guy can be an utter pain with his refusal to die. He is the perfect Sacrifice target or someone to feed MODOK 2. And 9 dice with Dark Reign is no joke.
Rocket ranked too high withiut groot he isnt as good and you cant use deadly duo so he is more of a 5 cost that activates twice. But without groot or the card he just sort od exists. High b low a
I think a rogue agent 2 threat would solve the issue of the lack thereof, since AMG seems to want to stop making them. Just give us Dethlok as a 2 threat rogue agent with a decent niche skill
Poor bob, bob gets no respect... you know coming in a pack with deadpool and a truck should count for a whole rank... Bob has never been assembled or painted by these hands.
Another point about Wong. Midnight Sons love having him as 2 threat in affiliation as it allows for more splashes.
I think he has lost a great deal of luster now though. The addition of the monsters adds a great deal of lethality. They don’t need Wong to splash anymore than gwenom.
Let's go! Have your previous rankings bookmarked, now I can finally update them :D
Looking forward to seeing the rest :D
Ranking Rocket above Bullseye is nuts. Bullseye is splashed everywhere, Rocket is almost never splashed. I think Quinn just has PTSD from being shot by Rocket too many times.😅
The rankings are back!!
The Rocket ranking is quite strange; I don't think it was discussed for really long enough. He's obviously a phenomenal staple to Guardians, but I feel like his splash value is very low, and he's basically tied to Groot as a 5-threat package. Ranking him above much more flexible options doesn't really follow the typically-advertised methodology for S vs. A tier.
I think you're over-estimating Rocket. I don't disagree that he's good for a 2 threat, however I have never seen him used outside of GotG. The 2 threats that are most splashed are Toad and Bullseye. I see Okoye taken more than Rocket.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to have thought Shocker was the PERFECT opportunity for a 2 threat (my other choice was Kitty Pride).
I think with AMG focusing on 5 threats more, they take up the role of a 2 threat (filling in those odd point values where you'd normally take a 2 and a 3) while being easier to balance, I think we aren't going to see too many more 2 threats for a while. I'm not stoked about it because 2 threats are very unique in how they function and many bring some of the more interesting kits imo, but so it goes.
We really need Spider Ham as a Webs 2 threat in the upcoming Spiderverse box
Would like to see an updated video for the other theeat levels as well, thanks for all the effort you out into these!
The beard suits Quinn!
Just gotten into the game, so awesome to see this :D
Thanks for doing these. Would love to see Howard the Duck as a 2 threat added lol
Howard the Duck would be a great shout!
I *do* really like Bob, sirs. I have had some excellent luck on his "Bob Rocket" rolls, which usually means that I can snag a 3 or 4 threat character on Turn 1 in exchange for Bob, which is an excellent trade for me.
Besides that, his pistols are surprisingly effective, and I have been enjoying him with Magneto, which usually means two rockets per game.
While I understand that he is not as good as Rocket, I think that he is not actually bad.
Rant over.
great as always
Thank the gods of geekdom. I needed a tier list to compliment my dinner.
I’m a total novice here, and I’m sure it would throw off the balance wildly given how good it already is on Toad . . . But I think it’s weird none of the Spider people have the ability to extract from range 2 like he does. It makes perfect sense.
i love toad leave him alone. In mystiques brotherhood oooh so good. Really appreciate the update and look forward to more
Jonathan the unstoppable isn't mentioned! He scores me so many points over the course of a game
I'll give some unsolicited Bob ideas that have niche applicability: scientific method in hydra gives him a decent attack and defense. Paired with modok or even the new mephisto as a body guard gives you a free scapegoat every turn, giving you the power from the damage consistently to hopefully pop off his bazooka a couple times
Also a decent candidate for venomized
you don't really get power for yhe bazooka because when he dies but doesn't die he loses 3 power
@@obyiscushobbyandgaming i believe that's only when you use the bazooka and you still get power from damage? I could be wrong
@@justinmcclure6767 just checked and from what I can tell it's any time he dates from taking damage
@@obyiscushobbyandgaming well damn. You're right. Still an unlimited pincushion i guess
Thank you very much for this video. I am currently wondering about the second 2 threat to play in brotherhood in addition to toad and it has just given me arguments.
Great overview! I think honey badger is better in her fighting affiliations: X-Force and Weapon X. Wide weapon X is pretty good actually, honey badger just boosts that team up.
Okoye seems common and strong in hellfire
I feel people in comments are underestimating Bob. If you are playing wide the guy can be an utter pain with his refusal to die. He is the perfect Sacrifice target or someone to feed MODOK 2. And 9 dice with Dark Reign is no joke.
Happy enough on tier positioning except i'd reorganise the orderof each
Rocket ranked too high withiut groot he isnt as good and you cant use deadly duo so he is more of a 5 cost that activates twice. But without groot or the card he just sort od exists. High b low a
I think a rogue agent 2 threat would solve the issue of the lack thereof, since AMG seems to want to stop making them. Just give us Dethlok as a 2 threat rogue agent with a decent niche skill
I feel bob is a C rank. A big punch for 1 or 2 times per game. And if activated last babysits a secure.
I do really like Bob! But only as a meme, not as an actual strategic piece.
Poor bob, bob gets no respect... you know coming in a pack with deadpool and a truck should count for a whole rank...
Bob has never been assembled or painted by these hands.
People understimating value of Bob episode 92010