Honda CBR600RR Exhaust Dyno HP Comparison: Toce, Akrapovic, Two Brothers, Arrow, Yoshimura, Stock
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Our highly anticipated Honda CBR600RR Exhaust Dyno Comparison is finally here! Our first episode featuring raw exhaust sound was launched a few years ago and it received exceptional feedback from its viewers. So we decided to take it a step further to see how these exhausts stacked up against each other in the horsepower and torque department. We used the same bike, on the same dyno, on the same day, and with similar conditions to ultimately bring you the most comprehensive exhaust comparison video on RUclips for this motorcycle.
We compared the exhaust power gains from multiple brands such as Akrapovic, Toce Performance, Two Brothers Racing, Arrow, and Yoshimura.
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Finally some honesty in the product sales world.
Do slip on vs full system vs full system, air filter, tune. Make that an individual series of videos and do it for r6, gsxr600, 636, CBR. You will get a shitload of views.
Jefferson Duggan I’d watch
We would all watch.
This is a perfect idea
Perfect
Noice
Every sticker I threw on my bike is about a 5hp gain
Do you have any TST stickers?
TSTindustries i dont😉
That sound is the most addictive thing about riding
Can’t beat that deeper growl and tone of Toce
If you don’t mind going deaf even with the air plugs.
@@gress12000 get a db killer haha, my r3 has to be full exhaust and yup I had ear plugs for the first week until the DB killer came in haha
Awesome review !
Honest and no bull.
Thanks for clearing all those expectations of more horse power from an exhaust .
Great job
Glad you liked it!
Toce sound the best but akra look really nice
uchiha sasuke toce look the best akra sounds perfect not too loud, toce u will have to wear earplugs trust me, gets annoying very quick
Toce look mint also
Ya I don't like the look of toce they look like a eBay special to me.
@@drkevorkian3668 2nd to a straight pipe
@@drkevorkian3668Doesn't Get Annoying.. Pure Beauty
In slip on For sound : Toce .
For performance : akra, yosh, arrow.
For looks: Toce ,akra, yosh.
But one thing the Akra is overall best, that is safe, db, legal , looks good. Most of them do slip and full system , please do full system. One last thing I need to say is man that TOCE F**** awesome.
Great job guys . Do it again and again at it's best...😍😍😍😍😍😍
Thank you. We are glad you enjoy our videos.
Have the toce on my 09 600rr. Got it from you guys with your hyperpack bundle, couldn't be happier! 😊
Yoshimura Gang in this piece!😂 I have it on my '09 600rr. That akrapovic sounds nice too 👀
Use SAME Bike in the next video with full system comparison and tune comparison. Great video guys! Great video
Danny Haddad it won’t make a difference. If they don’t change what’s going in, what goes out will make no gain. They will need to do a full video on a full system and ECU tune to make it run like it should.
Makes all the sense in the world. Always nice to see the Facts... The sound of the TOCE is by far the best in my opinion, not only because it’s louder than the others, very crisp and clearly responsive. Thanks Guys
Alright my man.
I Love My Toce⚡️
I was waiting for this video. Thanks guys. Ur the best.
The chosen Arrow and Two Brothers for that bike are just hideous! The Toce is, in my opinion the best sounding one and the Yoshimura the best looking!
Toce it is!
The Toce sounds nice on my iPhone. Wondering if it wouldn’t be annoying AF in real life day after day?
Shaw_Shooting bro I got a cbr1000rr I like the toce but my friend has one on his 600rr and it’s way too dam loud like people can only ride with him for about an hour I have the two brothers and love it but still think the toce sounds great But sometimes I still think I need ear plugs with two bro’s I want a toce but dam I can’t imagine how loud it would be on my 1k
Toce trash and way overpriced.
I agree that the Toce sounds best, and the Yoshi looks best. But I personally sustain that Two Bros offers the best idle ever. If you've ever heard one in real life, they have an awesome pulsing sound at idle, especially when the motor heats up.
I’ve had the TBR and the Akra as well as the Yoshi and trust me TBR has that meaner low growl sound when in neutral. The sound that comes out the TBR can’t be fully felt through microphones. You have to be there in person revving that engine to hear the diff.
I like Bart. I have been adding some various new parts onto my Honda Grom and I have watched a lot of his install instructions videos. Very clear with his instructions, and always adding some tips or hints that may make the job easier or more efficient. And for what it's worth, you can tell he's a good guy. He's the type of guy I would want working on my bike lol Will def be watching more of his videos.
Well thanks. We put a lot of effort into making these videos easy to follow and always try to use the most basic tools. Glad that you find our vids helpful.
Thank you for actually showing the torque.
full exhausts for the next videos jeje ... good comparison !!
Toce definitely the best sounding exhaust
I am not sure performance is the main reason ,we ,street riders,do a slip on conversion. It is obvious that not much changes in terms of power/torque.The bikes look ,however,does change greatly .I,for example,am a greate toce fan.With the fender eliminator kit,cbrs look awesome.Having said that,once u put the slip on one can not help but go further.i.e air filter,ecu tune...and that is where u get resolts.Great video !
Thanks.
Awesome video! Makes complete sense. Down the road I'll start doing the in depth tuning aspect but for now this information has helped me in deciding at least which slip on exhaust I wanna go with at least for sound and looks lol
Well, I am glad our video had you entertained and gave you the information you were after.
Fantastic comparisons, guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The 2007-2008 was the best year models, and Toce exhaust all day 👌
I agree totally with you!
2005 was better
@@RichardCranium69420 Sorry, but the changes made to the 07-08 were badass! I love the look of my nose so much better than the 06, was definitely my favorite change on the bike. But the body work in general just looks so much more sleek, than the bulky looking side panels on the 06. That said, a CBR is still a CBR and they will always be the best sportbikes out IMO.
2006 best MOVISTAR
More Stock HP Than Any Other Yr I Believe
Love the technical videos! Keep it up!
Man that toce exhaust sounds nice
Nobody ever mentions Leo Vince and imo it's the best slip on, It sounds the best accel / decel and it doesn't stick out at all!!!! It's completely flush with the tail
Full system and full system and atune will be super intresting! Thanks for the grate video....
Excellent video, next time someone tell me they put a new slip on exhaust on their bike and it feels so much better I'm gona show them this video, thanks guys, great video 😎👍🏻
Maybe they are just talking about the feeling of the soundwaves and how it "feels". I know my R1 feels amazing with its exhaust, way better than stock... But I also have a Cat delete, k&n air filter and most importantly a flashtune.
@@deathwish8339 well if their enjoying the reverberation of their exhaust they're either Gay or a Woman 😂
Damn that Yoshimuta installation is super fucking clean!
Something I would like to see besides the modest HP gain is the weight savings or conversely, the lack thereof regarding these various add on systems. Weight loss is also equal to HP gain. Maybe you guys could produce a much longer video, or an in part video series, detailing what modification combinations gained the most with these after market exhausts and the estimated or actual associated costs. I.e., header pipe and exhaust install equals a weight and horsepower gain over factory components. The factory system equals this amount of horse power and weighs x amount vs. the aftermarket system with and improved air filter and ECU mapping change, header pipe and aftermarket exhaust results in x overall horsepower and weight savings. I do not know what the catalytic converter weighs, but it is sure to be a fair amount. A video or a series of videos like that would be a very interesting video for those of us who just do some online research and guess a bit at what would be best and thus attempt moderate modifications to achieve these goals.
Yoshi for me! Great vid.
I love your guys' honesty.
Nice ! Some proof, dyno comparision are the way to go thank you
All i have to say is THANK YOU so much for making this... and its not just because I have one and my exhaust is still stock... XD
EDIT: Since I watched it to the end and heard your request, here is the response. Bart, I'm sorry, but don't do it on the R6. Continue the content based on the CBR600RR so that these videos have awesome follow-ups. Then, once you've done everything you can think of with the 600RR. Jump to your R6 and do the same thing. While you are probably wondering how much work and effort that would take and what little return it would yield... such content is exactly what sets TST apart from everyone else and I absolutely love your products and content.
Great video! How about comparing exhaust valve vs none, cat vs no cat, stock ecu vs flashed ecu with throttle restrictions removed? Do you lose low end torque? The backpressure story or is it a myth?
No, your bike has EXUP valve to control exhaust flow.
The Yoshi sounds best out of these.
I had this bike with a titanium Moriwaki slip on with the power commander 3 and k&n exhaust. Was Dyno’d at 112.9 hp at wheel. Awesome bike.
I would love one of these videos for the 2015-2018 R-3
I like this idea
Or CBR300R. Single jingle baby
TOCE exhaust ALL DAY!!!! 🔥🔥 sounds amazing. Plan on buying a full system but can’t decide yet whether I should do that or get a slip on. Feel like it would better to do a full system and tune. Not even for more power, just for the bike to run better and more consistent.
I thought two brothers went out of business. I went with Arrow on my 11 1000rr. Yoshi is kind of old for me, Akro is on everyone's bike. I'm pleased with Arrow.
Yoshi is old?
Nice video. I just got a 2019 600RR. Trying to figure out what to do first to it.
Love the production quality
Thank you. We put so much time and effort into our videos but not everyone notices.
Great vid. I have an 07 with yoshi/cat delete/BMC race filter/graves block off plates/PCV with auto tune. Sadly I dont have extra cash for a dyno tune at the moment. Bike feels better but am dying to get a tune and see what the bike can really do. And yeah I know it's only a 600 but it's what I got lol...
Nothing wrong with that man. 600's are awesome. We ride and race anything we can get our hands on...from 125's to 1000's. They are all fun and require a different skill set. Collecting all those skill sets makes you a better overall rider. The autotune will do a lot of good for you on its own if you know how to set it up. If you do take it to the dyno make sure you can give the tuner access to your ignition timing if you want the most out of that setup.
@@TSTindustries thanks for the advice...
Awesome vid! My 07' CBR600 is getting some mods soon!
Love the toce sound
i think you guys are also forgetting to mention the weight loss when dropping the oem system. the under tail exhaust hangs the heaviest part up high and in the rear.
Akra in my opinion looks awesome and more to stock than the rest
What about no exhaust? Any gains or loss. What about high flow air filter, full exhaust system and ECU remapping.
We actually did some no exhaust pulls on the dyno and the results were not worth reporting. Torque and horsepower were cut down drastically. And for the rest of your question....didn't you see what the thesis of this video was? All those other topics are left for another video.
@@TSTindustries actually I was interested with stock internals and only air filter, full exhaust system and ECU remapping. In this video modified CBR had modified internals too.
@@cranky1812 Bryan's green CBR has a three angle valve job, thinner head gasket and cam degree adjusted. That's all for internal mods. The bike we ran on the Dyno is bone stock.
@@TSTindustries thank you
TSTindustries well how much horsepower and torque was lost without the exhaust?
Fantastic sound,nice👍👍
Toce & Yoshimura.
No surprise with the Akrapovic.....perhaps the the finest exhaust systems in existence. Fit, finish and performance....especially the Ti systems.
I don't think you understood the proof the video presented. Perhaps you didn't watch all of it. The difference in performance between all of these exhausts is so miniscule that it really doesn't matter which one you get.
@@TSTindustries Fellas.....I understand exactly what you were doing and set out to accomplish. Yes....slip ons do not add any meaningful power....they couldn't....in the 90's slip ons yield 4 or 5 HP and 2 lbs of torque
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My point was the Akrapovic yielded the 2nd best results in a small field. I can watch it again but I don't think you supplied A/F readings.
The Akra fits well, makes a little more power but is a well made piece of equipment.
Here's the stuff I have done lately......www.dragbike.com/collins-cooper-past-becoming-future/?fbclid=IwAR3sRoLq4da6sxpQpnV314P2i00x-vZM03RWUXlo-2kdXe69-YInJKUkTrc
I redesigned, rebuilt those engines etc etc etc etc.
My point ......I know exactly what you dudes are doing. Christ....I make a billet block to take SOHC 750's out to 72 mm from a stock of 61mm. My 75 SOHC makes 105HP.....but you guys weren't even born in 1975. And....it was lucky to make 50 HP on a great day after a fresh tune up and only 2,000 miles on the engine new.
The only way to get real HP out of those recent Honda engines is to dump the CAT and get the squish to .035 or .032.....Honda buries those pistons deep in the hole. Get the squish tight and you'll start making real power.
I may have forgotten more then you fellas will know about motorcycle engines. No disrespect intended as I am fairly old.
I'm super late to the party here. This is interesting. I have a 2012 with an Akra Slip on and I made 105 at the wheel. I know all conditions and dynes are different. The Akra also saved me 3lbs 10oz and I think it looks the best too. Considering adding a cat delete pipe to open it up a bit more.
To have a true comparison you would have to dyno your bike in stock form, then with your slip on, take the percentage gain and compare it to ours. To add to this, every bike will measure a bit different.
I'm the same as well 108 at the wheel
Thank you for this High quality videos!! greetings from germany
Glad you like them! Cheers from Florida
best quality video, thumbs up
600rr is a beautiful engine. I like the deeper tone Toce add to the mix.
I just wish Honda continued developing the model and not just provide the old design for the last decade
@@TSTindustries 100% agree.With the new z4rr, I hope Honda will add some new player in the game.
Curious if you guys did another video, with header/tune stuff etc. thanks!
No, we did all of those tests just for our riders without capturing footage.
I have the 2008 cbr 600rr with the big gun muffler a beautiful sound I love my cbr
I had the YOSHI RS-5 and TOCE now I’m on the two brothers
I think the two brothers looks the best on the bike of the 4 followed by the Yoshi but I just think the Jardine rt1 is the one I'm in love with. also like the Leo Vince
I had to remove the Toce and go back to stock on my 600RR because it's so loud I started getting tinnitus. It will chronically damage your hearing without a doubt. It was money out the window which is a shame because it looks and sounds badass.
I may be getting old but I too am pretty sensitive to loud exhaust in the last couple years. The last two race seasons I have been wearing earplugs regularly and still getting a whole head ring after the event. This is of course with a full exhaust but regardless of size of bike. At this point I think I'm most down with stock exhausts.
TOCE TOCE TOCE TOCE TOCE🙇🏾♂️🤙🏾⚡️💙😍
Please please please do full systems next
My honest opinion love the Two Brothers and the Yoshi 👍
My Dream Bike CBR600rr♥
Such a pity you didn't include Leovince in your comparison. I'm guessing it's not sold in the States?
Great video! Very real and honest content.
Appreciate that great video.
Wanna see a video on best exhaust dyno for kawasaki Z400?
sweet video guys
YOSHIMURA IS THE BEST !!
@@teddyadventures4551 You're so right, $1000 for a slip-on and doesn't really need a lot of R&D to make.
Nah the toce is man. And ima get the full system exhaust in like ah month. Shits def the loudest in the room 😂
SC project 🔥
Close call with the Arrow, but yea. Agree, Yoshimura has the best.
I love the sound and want a toce exhaust for my 600 but I also think I might sell my 600 cuz it was a "surprise project bike" and I've spent more time working on it than riding it. Hopefully nothing else pops up after I clean/rebuild my master cylinder and calipers/pistons or else I'm just going to tap out. I've already had to rebuild the forks and do lots of general maintenance. This is what I get for being a clown and not spending more time inspecting the bike before buying it off craigslist.
If I keep my 600 or get a new 600, even though the toce slip on makes less gains than the others, it just sounds too nice. Thanks for the comparison and wish me luck.
I wish you luck brother. I know rebuilding calipers sucks, especially if they aren't monoblock. It's inevitable that brake fluid gets on something you don't want it on. These bikes are notorious for crappy front brake feel...especially 07-08 before they got monoblocks. Anyway, I hope this is your last hurtle and you can finally enjoy the bike.
Did you ever make that video on slip on Vs full system performance? 15:56 I’m keen to watch
Great video
I have the same model scorpion is IMO the best sound/performance.
I run a full leovince SBK titan system with kit electronics, cams, pistons etc... on my 07 RR PC40
yoshimura is perfect for the 600rr
😲Wow greate vid... Never seen before on You Tube this kind of comparative test👏👏👏👏.
So I want to ask When is coming in test 1000RR 2017-2019 stoc vs vs SP or SP2???? With same exha that you have on CBR 600
🙏Thank you💯❤️
Slip ons like you guys said are about looks and noise. Please get a liter bike next
The decommisioned 2015 R1 race bike is still sitting in the shop. Maybe we will make a similar vid on that.
TSTindustries please do it for the r1 I’d love to see the results. 🔥
TSTindustries That would be nice
Full system comparison on R6 plz:)
In keeping the conditions fair, I'd choose a reputable header and then replicate this test to see if/which noise maker cans increase hp slightly.
Would love to see a video on that cbr build; awesome hp/tq curve ! Another idea would be vids on 600 ss builds comparison (full bolt-ons and tune) talking about character of each one for the track enthusiast/entry racer in deciding on which bike they want in entering racing!
All good ideas my friend. Time here is a bit tight because our main business is designing and manufacturing parts, but we do carve out some time to have fun with these video projects. So we will definitely get more videos like this one made, it will just be a matter of how soon.
im riding pc41 2011, did put ixil x55 exhaust on it. only thing i noticed riding was the dropped torque on lower rpm's and maybe (just bearly maybe) little gain on higher rpm's with the stock tune. also it sounds like someones strangling a cat with catalysator still on it. xD going to decat, change filter to better flow, ecu flash on dyno and other things to it.. other option i have in mind is to sell it and buy bigger bike, would maybe be cheaper option too :D ps: sorry for my bad english =)
I like TOCE, sound was mindblowing....
cool
which CBR 600RR model is this, I'm interested in the armor and the Toca exhaust is a fantasy 👌
@@Dapic46 this is a 2007-2008 model.
Got a 2012 CBR600rr with a Ecu Flash from Chris Moore, Sprint air filter, Voodoo Slip on and cut the Cat and put a mid pipe on, -1/+2 sprocket change....Going to put it on the Dyno thur at Ace Cafe Orlando and will let you know the #'s
The peak numbers are not very representative of the actual gains. You have to look at the entire curve. You would also have to get the vbaseline from your bike in stock form to compare to. The dyno numbers are not universal. Anyhow, if you have a way to shoot me the dyno graph I would be curious to look at what you're working with.
@@TSTindustries I will send you the graph after I get it done, its a Local guy Dakota with Rhino Dyno that come to Ace every thur for bike night. He has a mobile one. Also if you ever need a Aprilia RS660 to make new items for let me know I can drop it off and leave it as long as you like. Im just down the road from you.
Such a great video.. can we get same kind video for Yamaha R1 & Suzuki Hayabusa, GIXXER & BMW S1000RR
These videos don't make money. We just do them from time to time as a side project. Sure, it would be nice to have nough time and personnel to make all these project videos, but we must stay the course and take care of business most of the time.
Great video, appreciate the honestly.
What about the weight saving, would this help with performance gain..? Minimal I know but hey..
I have the Akrapovic on my 2009 CBR600RR and I love it. It was more just for the sound but also the weight loss as well.
All performance characteristic of these exhausts, when considering only the change of the exhaust with nothing additional, are very small and pretty insignificant. Even taking off the couple pounds that sheds when you go aftermarket doesn't do much for you. You would have to go the distance, like on Bryan's bike.
I have an 07 rr with the Toce. It's hands down the best of the bunch! Now people can finally hear me! Just kidding, nobody listens for motorcycles >.
Lol Everyone Listens For Motorcycles😍 Love My TOCE
El Yoshimura se escucho mas chingón saludos soy de la ciudad de México ✌️🤘🇲🇽
Pretty nice video guys, I got bored listen lot of people say that exhaust give much more power to the bike!! I love having exhaust in my bike too but I never said that I am fast cause of my exhaust!!
Great video guys and good information. I definitely appreciate the content and the knowledge you guys are sharing. Keep up the great work. I would love to see you discuss what the best performance mods are on a 600 platform...to give it that little extra punch.
oh man....that really depends on what you consider "performance." That is a huge undertaking to explain it in a way that minimizes troll intrusion with their infinite wisdom.
What full system would you suggest?
This bike is my dream 😍
Had a 2 Bros on my zx14. Damn it sounded great
Have one on my '95 CB1000. Sounds very good. About 41,000 miles on the inline-four.
Thx for this vid 👍🏼
No problem 👍
Yes! Use the R6! 🤙🏽
We are kind of in the mindset of retiring that bike. It is actually being shopped up now to make something more show-like out of it for magazine photos.
TSTindustries personally, the show bikes are cool but not my cup of tea. I’d much prefer to see you build it for the track. Mainly because the R6 is such a popular track bike. But I’ve never seen anyone do a build on the R6 the way you guys do builds. That is with transparency and honesty...
PS. Also because I’m getting ready to acquire an R6 myself for a track only bike 🤙🏽
Love the Toce has a better growl that will turn heads.
I know im a year late watching this but goddamn that toce exhaust sounded godly 👌 will it sound better if its full system toce exhaust?
Great video. 👍👍👍👍
TOCE PURE EARGASM
Great idea for a video!
Thanks for making such a honest review video 👍🏻
We sell only two of the brands shown here. We used to sell Arrow also but not anymore. Our main objective is to give our customers the parts they will be the happiest with. This is why we make comparison videos. If a customer determines that one of the brands we sell is right for them, hopefully they will be inclined to shop with us. If they prefer one of the other brands then there are plenty of places to get those parts, but we hope that those guys will at least give this video a thumbs up and consider us for other parts that we do sell.
Bellissimo Video, dove posso trovare il sottocoda 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻?
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Awesome video!
Would love to know what I need to buy from you all to get my bike in line with Bryan's... Parts list please :)
We did a thinner head gasket on that bike. When we had the head off the bike we cut a third angle in the valve seats. We also did a cam degree to move some of the power up higher. Besides that the rest was all bolt-on and tuning. As you saw in the vid he had a full Arrow exhaust, a racing high flow filter by MWR, Woolich Racing flashing software, 520 pitch lightweight drive train, etc. The bike was tuned by our staff here. Pretty minimal SS build actually. I was basing my answer on you probably just wanting to match the engine output to Bryan's. There were many things done to that bike that improved its performance outside of power delivery. Things like suspension, mass removal, geometry/suspension setup, pit performance enhancements, etc.
@@TSTindustries thank you so so much for the great reply 🙏🔥