BRAD SIMMS - UNCLICKED (the response episode)
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A bit of a special episode. I received a few calls/emails from industry folk and riders after Chris Moeller's polarizing episode, but Brad in particular had the most to say. In the end, the only real solution was to have Brad fly out and sit down to discuss his side of the story...
0:00 - Intro / Traction Coffee plug
1:25 - @instagram’s Instagram
9:20 - The bone that magically un-broke itself
17:01 - Brad’s side of the Fit/Moeller podcast
1:05:05 - Turning down an Energy Drink deal in 2021
1:08:08 - 20 Million Gorditas from Taco Bell
1:10:10 - “I’ll never ride for another BMX frame company”
1:19:43 - The adidas/fiveten deal
1:31:40 - Living wage and BMX
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Interview bob scerbo, joe rich or lino gonzalez next!
YES
Yup
yeah we need scerbo on here
I've said Joe and Bob but Mr.90 East himself would be fucin epic. Mass rep
Yeah, old skool dudes are salty with loads of old beefs to drag up! 🧐
How about getting Ruben over the pond with the plane ticket money? Or get three cheaper flights to fly in 3 legendary Canadians : Beast, Osato and Enns!
I’d say Ruben or Taj or joe. Or even better Tony Cardona……
You're forgetting another canadian legend - Dom Mach
RUBEN!! Yess
Yes
JAY FUCKING MIRRON.
Also. I got to meet him once and fucking chicken out asking for an autograph cause I started fan girling cause he liked my bike build. And this is coming from the kid who got to ride with way to many pros right from the start.
I feel like the whole podcast Dennis is over there re-thinking all his deals lol
Moeller has Dennis sussed!!!!
Dennis reactions to shit is so funny and genuine lol
@@PeepGamePopoff rite, dude cracks me tf up
@@robertlund5694naaaa he don't give a fuc, don't let em fool ya lol
Dude Simms on demolition woulda been savage
Brad needs an amplifier on his mic. Could barely hear him vs Dennis and Ryan
Fudged just gotta make the guests get close to the mic when speaking
They all do, max volume here and still have to watch and listen carefully.
Dude whispers.
He might just be a whisper talker type.
Shit needs to be talked about. The industry needs to evolve. This was a good one for sure
I’ve been saying it for years now. So glad to see it happening and so glad that the most well known people in the industry are the ones really doing it!
This is how BMX can really evolve.
@@Brant_Moore the only problem I see is there's not enough money in BMX to start with. The big earners aren't making their money from the actual BMX company that sponsors them. I get what Simms is saying but you'd have all the brand's going under if they pay the riders what it sounds like he thinks they should be earning. It's a business at the end of the day.
@@richieowen8783 yes but the problem was fit wasn’t pay incentives like every other BMX company.
@@evanwiltse6127 I need to watch it through again as it's been a while but if I remember right I thought fit offered him signature parts but brad turned that down. He just wanted a frame fork and parts deal. Fit are gonna hardly pay him on that deal and then let him ride another parts deal. Fit seem by no means 100% squeaky clean in this but brad Simms should definitely not have been representing himself in getting contracts and deals as I'm afraid he seems slightly out of his depth in that department. I've since heard that moeller didn't pay him to cover the lost income of printing decal sets for parts that then weren't released.
@@richieowen8783 that's why bmx needs to be smart and let some outside money in but be very selective. Honestly I never understood how skate and bmx didn't end up tight knit. And I really don't get why bmx doesn't show love to the scooter kids and influence them into bmx once they're big enough to properly ride a bike and not be dwarfed by it.
I'm really hoping my company idea works out. Tryna start a brand, if I can get it going I have a few cool part ideas as well as some plans to bring outside money into our industry. Money that doesn't effect core bmx but does help us get that financial situation sort of resolved.
Look at skater fashion. Bare dudes wear rhat shit that don't skate at all never have and have no interest. Nike sb being huge. I know chick's who don't even know what the names for tricks are but if you skate bam easy peasy tryna hook up. Go to Russia and bare chick's are like that with bmx lol.
But at least for north America there's lots of things that could be done to help the scene.
Gotta have Robbo on next.
Lmao. Its all apart if their evil scheme
You really want to watch the world burn 😂
How does he go so high, hes fat! Lol the good ol days
@@gerneticut Sandy Carson
@@80nodrog yes!
Please get Clint Reynolds on
Yea!
UPCOMING!! - Brad Simms on Cult !! just to ignite the fire between Chris and Robb a little more haha
He'd fit so well with Cult. Cult team is already stacked and their videos are sick, imagine throwing Brad amongst that!
I hate to say it, but that would be an epic boss move😎😎
I had to think about this one for a couple hours but ya I was already waiting for new cult footy ... brad would just add to their great team. It seems to make sense if cult will pay the check that would be pretty cool
He’s going to wtp lol
@@macintoshflorida5111 that would be major too ngl , wtp is stacked.
I want to see a hobie doan podcast, he had a somewhat dramatic exit from from s&m as well would be interesting to hear about that
voting for Taj + Joe on the next podcast
So good to hear Brad again. A few people are saying he's in BMX for the money, man he's been riding and in the industry for years - if he was in it for the money, he would have bounced years ago. It's hard for people to understand when someone has self-worth and confidence. Why should riders, especially people who are at the top level like Brad, not be able to afford rent and food and basically be able to live.
Another great interview UNCLICKED. I really enjoyed Chris M's interview and getting his insight. It was great to get Brad's side of the story too (and to learn more about his career). There's always three sides to every story. There's no denying both parties are doing great things for BMX. #BMXfamily
Man! You guys keep dropping great interviews! Mad props for the work put into this! A lot of the riders you get openly share some interesting stuff
The podcast really educates us bringing the riders to interact and share a lot about riding and culture. Teaches us a lot and we appreciate back in Africa..!! DOPE HAVING BRAD SIMMS
Great Podcast Guys!! Nothing but love, respect and positivity to all you guys!! Keep shredding out there and these interviews are awesome !
When Brad said the Maxxis tires don’t blow out and then Fudger just said “plug” I started laughing so hard. That was perfect.
I have my moments.
That one went right over my head I guess, I didnt get it. Care to explain?
I definitely feel for brad. Putting your body on the line for small checks that can stop at anytime is a rough way to live when you get out of your early 20's. Riders don't make shit and it's a damn shame.
On the other hand, no matter what was going on with his contract negotiations, you can't just not contact your employer. At the very least you need to formally let them know you are taking a couple of weeks off and need time to think about your situation. From fits perspective, after having a significant disagreement over contract terms, brad ghosting them for 2 weeks definitely gave them the message that he wasn't part of the company anymore.
I honestly think brad is kind of twisting his story when he says he really wanted to stay with fit for the rest of his career. If I felt that way about a company, I wouldn't ever lose contact with them.
Same. Can't just ghost a sponsor that's paying you money.
Brad wanted more money but wasn't willing to put out sig parts that would have given him that extra revenue he wanted. Sounds like terrible communication on Brad's side and probably not the best from S&M but they did try a bunch through multiple people.
Brad is a dope rider. He will always be in high regards for me but he just isn't a business dude it seems.
Also dropping him without telling him first is pretty bad on S&M's part as well
Part of it is on riders though. Many don't promote themselves enough. Many also don't do contests at all which is a decent way to make extra cash and grow your following.
I wasn't even pro and had a small following of dudes I rode with who had I got sponsored woulda already been down to buy parts from such brands as well as sig parts. And I wasn't even that good.
If you got a crazy following it's easier to negotiate. Plus look at the Gary Young podcast. Riders can score their own corporate sponsors if they work at it.
@@jluo my homie ghosted a sponsor that was going to put him on by trying to be like uber work hard. Ended up losing shit tryna be able to send them a metric dickload of footage for edits and an upcoming full length video.
Never stop communication. In everything. It always causes problems.
There is an old saying in bmx.... "If you want to get 1 million dollars out of bmx...start with 2"
Too real
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HOW DARE YOU!
@@OurBMX ❤️
I think it's really cool what you guys have been doing, I love listening the podcasts
Just a idea, start bringing more information about whats really happen inside the bmx companies, crews, riders, sponsors, thats creat a whole different perspective about the industry.
keep sharing !
Recently read Brad’s interview in Albion from several years back. Def a new respect for the homie 💪🏼
Yo guys great pod cast Brad is the man great to hear he is doing so good and its rad to know both sides of story
Y’all keep this up 👏 Love all these
Big respect to this man for staying true. Not just a bad ass rider, humble while confident. A true gentleman rite here
Been waiting forr thissss!
Brad is the shit man. No matter who he rides for he'll still be in my top 5.
Really good interview. Brad remaining unflustered in the eye of a mini-storm. Respect man
Brad represents BMX so well on so many levels and is a great human.
Watched all the episode, it was really good to ear all the story.
Ps: I think it could be really cool and interesting to see a video about the difference of the pro, flow, international and am team!
I'm not saying S&M didn't make any mistakes here but Brad was like 7 weeks into his contract and asked for a raise. Try to go to your boss 7 weeks after you started working for him and ask for more money. You'll get a big fat NO, that's for sure. If he felt like he was underpaid he should not have agreed to the conract in the first place.
that was a super interesting insight on the industrie , great conversaition , thank you Brad for telling your side of the story and thank you Dennis and Fudger as always for your great podcast ! keep up the good work !
Thanks for saying thanks!
Great podcast. Brad, if you see this, thank you for clearing things up. I apologize for things I have had opinions on. But I still thank Fit, regardless of what happened, to help you and send you on your way. Good luck with your sponsors, house and adventures. Take care. Also, hook up with Kink. The things you could do with them. Sweet!
I wonder what frame he’s riding now like did he keep the fit frame and just take off the decals? I love fit and s&m I always wanted an s&m frame I had a fit complete for a while when I was younger but s&m is just iconic
I think there are so many variables in this situation sales wise..
1: a corporate company to small business via pay nearly impossible cause the money that comes from the small business is from just product sales mainly of just that said bmx companies catalog and the corporate companies have tons of non bmx to fall back on racing, striders, mtb etc.
2. I’ve noticed with the change of times TALENT doesn’t equal sales it actually hurts the sales kids can’t relate so they just like, comment and move on and buy things from riders that they see them selves being able to emulate.
3. There’s more to a riders check then just his riding it’s his selling abilities and marketing. (Not just posting IG) majority of riders think “ well I’m good and things sell out so I should make more” Not at all it took way more for the sales to happen then just your riding. It’s a team, and the inside does so much but is never touched upon nor discussed.
3: Shops are the reason any of us are here PERIOD and honestly they don’t care, know or give a shit who the rider. It’s the relationship with the company and mainly the sales rep.
Now I have a personal and business relationship with Brad what I said doesn’t mean he isn’t talented or one of the best it just means money comes from sales and sales comes from “the whole process”.. Him getting a agent and working with bigger corporate brands is where he belongs and deserves. Dudes top tier period.
Ps if someone wants the best royalty check ask for stickers your welcome..
Please Fudger can you get a sales rep on here. Companies survive by the phone calls us soldiers make..
Please make everyone talk into the microphone, Fudger will come through loud and clear (too loud) when turning up the volume to hear others.
Get the Gonz and Dave young on here 🔥
It's nice to hear both sides of what happened. In a perfect world, Brad and Chris would work things out with Brad being happy with his salary and riding for life on S&M Bikes.
I’m glad the drama is being Squashed life is too short to hold grudges I’m glad Brad cleared the air let’s keep the industry growing and keep the humbleness and drive for a sport
So whys he not at least on demolition now he's off fit??
Probably because of this. If I was a company owner I’d think twice about sponsoring him now. His argument seems to be that he deserves more money because he is good. Well I'm sorry Brad but the market decides how much you get paid. You may be a great rider but if everyone is buying Ethans frame (for example) then you aren't worth as much as you think you are.
@@googleaccount4159 did you not listen? His problem was that fit wouldn’t pay him for his signature parts. That has nothing to do with the market, his parts we’re selling well. This is expected of most companies Dennis said it himself.
@@evanwiltse6127 And did you not listen? That was never part of the original deal. With regard to riding for other parts companies and higher pay for his own parts on FiT, Moeller wife said "we'll see if things go great". No one apart from the accountant at S&M knows how great things were going.
@@googleaccount4159 yawn
Great podcast as usual! in general the audio levels for your mic’s are all pretty low, especially with brad’s low tone it really shows.
Definitely alot of confusing back and forth between both parties. One thing can definitely be agreed on though, that insta post was some cheese. Childish indeed
have they taken it down or? I want to see it haha
Like Ryan said, thats no way to be in a relationship, especially with your employer. A conversation was left on rocky ground and then they get silence for two weeks even after trying to contact him. Very very unprofessional on Brads side. Post a bit reactionary but still justified in my eyes.
@@googleaccount4159 he was in contact with the T.M. though. Plus fit’s own employees told them he wasn’t quitting. Yeah he should’ve have said something but S&M was way more unprofessional than brad ever was.
@@evanwiltse6127 At what point did he say he was still in contact with the TM? And I don't see how S&M were more unprofessional. Imagine if you or I had an argument over pay with an employer and then ignored their calls and went silent for two weeks. You really think S&M were more unprofessional than that?!
Was nt that bad !
Yeah!!!!!!!
Just want to see him on Cinema, the parts they will drop with Nathan and Dak will be crazy..
That would be a fire combo
the podcast ive been waiting for.
Oh boy here we go! The legendary Brad Sims! Yeeeewwww
2 weeks isn't long enough to justify that post, I understand why their feelings were beginning to hurt, but not enough to just burn the bridge.. Still love s & m, and definitely respect Brad for his decision, riders ARE Definitely underpaid...
Had a broken scaffoid for 6 years. Had a bone graft from my hip to fix it
As a non BMX rider. I love these episodes, as you bring out individuals from the BMX culture and drive into their personal life. Decades of insight. Cheers
I had to pause the vid and watch the taco bell vid.!! I mean $20 mil??? Geeexzzzzz
I have been riding for almost 40 years and really enjoy Brad's style. One of my favorite riders, right up there with John Dizz Hicks and Mirra
Sergio Layos or Rubén Alcantara for an interview. Grreat podcast. Thank you
Nice one! Bring Jay Miron.
I wish. :(
He's too busy being a boss.
At this point im glad i move forward with that dream of being pro seems like bmx doesnt pay bills at all.
Brad is a very serious person btw, he didnt take any joke or even smiled the whole interview
U gota be focused on telling ur story but he did crack a joke 20 million in taco bell lol
Sounded to me like he told the exact same story as Moeller. Only difference I heard was that brad said they'd give him a pay rise/ other sponsors if things go great. Well whats your definition of great? Moellers wife played a blinder there as she can now define what great means. And I thought brad said he doesn't need representation when doing deals? Literally the exact same story from both sides. A deal was met, Brad kept asking for more, Brad gets salty, brad leaves. He even said himself that someone else on S&M or fit gets more than him and he's not happy with that. Like dude you haven't even been there a year and S&M have had no time at all to judge what additional income you bring. Yeah you may have won rider of the year but that doesn't instantly mean you should be the highest paid rider on the team. For all we know the biggest market may well be parents buying their kids bike stuff and if thats the case then I can easily see Ethan or another young rider bringing in way more dollar than Brad.
I can side with that but I also understand brads gripes!
The shortage of tubes during last year was a real thing, and this is coming from someone all the way over on LI in NY…
Dennis thinks I’m crazy. Haha
It’s Mad I started riding bmx at 34 and broke my scaphoid bone about 6 months in trying my first hop bar. After 10 weeks in a cast and another month after it came off the worst part of it all was not riding my bike for so long
Ps brad u are an animal on a bike
The government should subsidize Brad Simms as a national treasure and pay him millions
Was brads mic off or?
Agreed
Please get Robbie Morales
Goat cave has one with robbo that's like almost 3hrs long
@@scottbradford4130 I want a new one with his side of leaving fit and creating cult
@@zobernuts he talks about starting cult but whatever if you jus want drama
@@zobernuts trust me it's good
This ain't a soap opera. C'mon now
Brad Simms - Underpaid, underestimated... mad respect for him! 📈📈📈
This is excellent the very damn best yet 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥damn fitbmx u use to be the man homie lmfao🤣
So the hard part about talking business is; A general future fear that companies images will be tarnished. The flip side is riders used to keep brand image fresh. And in a world where job consistency is everything it’s hard. Drama used to stay current and on the tip of everyone’s tongue. Three managers who might not communicate. One buyer one seller. Living off of views and likes is depressing. Brad is not Mike Aitken.. then it transitions into race.. and it shouldn’t. Brad is physically capable of unimaginable feats. And maybe there’s a disconnect in a kid riding a signature bike. And backlash from fellow friends. I’m almost 11 months sober and the world and the internet is anything but sober. Not being emotional and reactive while thinking clearly is the key to maturity. Best of luck Brad! It’s a complicated industry. Keep your head up!
Get Ian Schwartz on here ha
Great old times when chase hawk was riding for fitbikes, seems this era is gone. Brad is a machine in the game right now, let the guy have the sponsors he needs, he deserves to make a decent living for all the moves he throws down. Fitbikes is not on top of their game, Brad is.
They just had to share the prize
Overall sad to see that core bmx companies can't afford to support riders
Bob Haro would be a great interview
I got a lot of respect for Sims. Definitely know where he's coming from. He's not some young kid trying to get sponsored. He's already a well established rider and knows what he's worth. Same thing that Trey Jones did when he left Cult. He was thinking long term with Shadow.
Well he's from FL so is sparkys and his mentor had a long term relationship with Ron, not rocket science.
Great episode and fantastic to hear Brad’s side of the story! Now please!…For the love of all that is holy….GET ROBBIE MORALES on the podcast!
Feature Mark Burnett. What's he up to after leaving Subrosa and Shadow? Why did Mark leave? Haven't seen Mark in anything recent.
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Proud of you Brad
So moeller was bang on. Simms to canyon!
You guys should try to get Begin on here
I have broken that bone on both hands 😂😭
Good podcast! Get Kriss Kyle the Scottish Bmx Rider for the next interview.
Hell yeah! Kriss has been Killin it for so long! Now he's in the mtb scene as well and owns the unit park I'm sure there's endless shit to talk about
You have the chillest girl if you don't call her in two weeks and she stays lol
King of Hop
Five10s were mtb shoes like 10 years ago. Adidas did buy them out but they weren't rock climbing shoes. They were for freeride and downhill.
As an MTB rider, I just looked brad up and he's definitely a major boss
We should all be glad to hear he finally hired a manager.
so great to hear his side of the story. but goddamn i'd like to actually hear his story! please amp up brads audio next time fudger.
I’m so nosey.. I wana kno how much he makes off a Taco Bell commercial i never even seen
I only rode a fit park2 cmplete and only lasted a month Cuz the back twisted and they didn't want to warranty it only my forks but why do I need forks with no frame that was my last fit anything,now after 12 years I hear what fit is doing to this amazing rider its sad....demolition all the way...I ride wtp now,Brad it's not just sticking out for himself but for all the riders all my respects for him.
Go Brad!
MIC CHECK
35:00 this explains why Cult was started
Yeah whatever happened to the set bmx??
Whaddup it’s Timmy ! Big fan of Brads riding ! Hope all is well to everyone :) cheers
At the end of the day this all just seems like both sides are doing whatever they feel they need to to survive within their aspect of the industry. Shits rough
Would love to see scotty cranmer on the podcast
BMX is a niche sport. And it doesn't get the interest that MTB does, let alone pro team sports. Brad seems to think athletic ability and pay go hand in hand. It's business, plain and simple. It doesn't matter how dangerous it is. Only very few people will ever live off BMX because there is only limited money from sales.
Reading between the lines....Brad agreed to a salary which was less than he wanted.....refused a royalty scheme (directly linked to his popularity)..........then keeps asking for raises........then wants to represent less but still get paid the same.
Yeah your financial wants are more at 35 than 20 years old, that's obvious. But your worth is your worth and BMX is tiny compared to every other mainstream sport.Should you get paid more just because you are older and expect more?
I'm happy he's getting paid what he thinks he deserves....it worked for Nigel.
Dude signed and agreed to a contract...7 weeks later wanted more. ....
Respect to Brad.
Brad pick a mike laird frame and build it up
True, after a number of years, most employees expect a raise. As a teacher who has seen one tiny raise over seven years, I sympathize. #knowyourworth
It sucks bmx isn’t as popular as skateboarding, so riders start to feel like they deserve more money when it’s like bruh the top 5 bmx riders as a whole don’t generate as much as Nyjah Houston makes in one year. I think it has to do with the fact that bmx bikes are super expensive as opposed to a $100 complete board. Especially since kids now a days make fun of you for riding a bike that doesn’t have Atleast 3pc cranks
In my opinion it does sound like he his hard to work with him and I am glad he got a agent now after leaving fit.
I’d be so stoked on a tire sponsor holy fuck
Dennis and Chad K some of the best and they both under paid for sure
They are 2 of the better paid ones!
Enjoyed this interview much more than expected. I do think an immature post from a company is, well immature. But I also think not talking to an employer for two weeks, especially when things are rocky, is a really crappy way to show you want to be a part of the team...