The class even has a galley mess hall like Voyager. It has dedicated kitchen staff on board. This ship is expected to be away on mission for extended periods of times. This class is designed to do what Voyager had to adapt to being stranded. It can operate without Starfleet support for extended periods of time. Starfleet realised that proper cooked food was great for ship morale as learned from Voyager.
6 variable payload torpedo launchers type 5 MK 110 and 13 Mk XIII Phaser arrays plus loads of other weapons maximum Warp 9.996 top speed classified Quantum slipstream & Transwarp.
The intrepid class has always been my favourite ship in all of Trek, with the obvious Sovereign class coming in at a close second …… however this new class is Amazing, even though we don’t know a lot about it, this is slowly becoming no.1 favourite. Such a perfect homage to the OG USS Voyager 😊
i'm sure the Hestia will be to, i'm going to be fucking SQUEALING like a girl if it'S the case, cuz if that happens...the U.S.S Legend will be canon :D
I think the producers of Picard took the criticism of the copy-paste fleet in season 1 to heart and the easiest way to bolster their inventory of ship designs was just to port them over from STO.
I like the idea that the voyager A existed at the same time as the origenal Voyager and was commissioned to memorialise the lost crew and for a while both were opperating at the same time.
@@Kidozy no, -A is the second one or a refit major enough to count as a new ship(for example the NCC-1701 being refit into constitution II class and being redesignated NCC-1701A because the refit was so extensive almost nothing of the original ship was carried over)
@@dodecahedron1 Er, no? Enterprise A was just a new Conie Class they had remaned from something else. The OG 1701 was refit to Connie II and didn't get an A designation until it's successor was introduced. Now, A better example of what you're saying is Discoery. When she recieved her refit, she was assigned the A. Although that was due more to Starfleet not wanting to admit that they lied about Discovery's destruction.
really like the attention to detail of the location of the impulse drives in multiple directions, I always found the lack of those in ships weird considering how they move in the series
@@jasonwestwood7092 Ah yes, the motto of any good Explorer expected to be away from home for quite some time; "Carry a big microscpe and an even bigger gun." ~some science guy who grew up on CoD, probably
Wow, I think the Pathfinder class might even be my new favourite. I love that hull shape and the (for lack of a better term) colouring, and I always love the small-moderate sized science ships that fit a huge amount of awesome tech into a dignified frame without much pomp and circumstance. It's capabilities stand for itself rather than grandeur or size.
If memory serves this was the first ship Thomas Marrone made for STO as well! He's been on quite a journey, from early UI designer, to STO ship designer, to now being behind canon designs including the Enterprise.
The Pathfinder is easily in the top five most beautiful ships that Star Trek Online ever produced. It most certainly deserves to be canonized, so I'm thrilled with this.
i assume because he only understood the need for a "carburator" but didnt fully understand the technology or how its tech functioned. If Toress or Kim had time to play around with the tech, i think we'd of seen that. (or at the very least designed a new warp scale, after the disaster that was "threshold" where paris achieved warp 10. it'd be nice to see an alpha numeric scaling system that starts at 0 and goes too 15, instead of the normal alpha numeric of 1-16, so we can break off from this 9.6 of the Ent D, but warp 9.975 of voyager being almost twice as fast, and the USS promethius prototype going warp 9.995 which is almost over 2x faster that voyager. the exponential scaling gets kinda stupid muddy at this point. warp 9.9 = 3029 times the speed of light but 9.975 is 5126 times the speed of light and warp 9.995 is 11515 times the speed of light.
Besides the Pathfinder, I really do love all the ship designs in STO that serve as updates to designs we know and love. Classes like the Adamant, Andromeda, Yamato, Equinox, Hestia, Sutherland, Reliant, Alita, Grissom, and Nobel just to name a few.
I'm imagining a potential Seven of Nine spin off show, where she promotes to captain and takes charge of the Voyager B. That would be an amazing sight to behold! This is a beautiful ship.
I really like the nacelles being lower instead of the older style of higher. I've always liked the way almost every Star Trek ship looks when you flip it over. The Pathfinder and Trailblazer are a step in that direction.
The pathfinder class is my favorite ship design from STO -if not all of Star Trek-. It has a special place in my heart and I can't wait to possibly see more of it c:
The Voyager-B is a cool design. It also has some elements of Rick Sternbach's concept version of Voyager. The position of the nacelles is why I say that. I wonder if we'll actually see it. I hope we really do see the original Voyager, the Enterprise-A, the Defiant (DS9), the supposed Enterprise-D (probably just saucer) at the Fleet Museum. We might not see that until the finale. I hope the finale will be a couple hours long. I also hope we see the Enterprise-F in more than just one episode.
I love how the Voy-B's nacelles bring to mind the design of the Titan-A's. I also have an idea of how the writers could easily deal with the front-loading of too many legacy ships too fast: they could simply have Starfleet realize it's going too far with them and simply do away with legacy registrations for a substantial period of time (a number of centuries).
Thank you so very much for highlighting this ship, this is seriously one of my favorite and the best in canon. I also love the Trailblazer variant as well.
As updates to older classes go, I really appreciate how this one really pushes the design boundaries, rather than just looking like a 25th-century skin on a classic skeleton (Ross and Reliant classes especially come to mind).
That would be the type of ship that I would love to command in the future. Exploration, to be the first to see what we have not seen and to show the others that follow the beauty of what is yet to come.
I really like the Pathfinder class. It is a true real feeling progression from the Intrepid class. It feels natural. It keeps many elements of the look of the Intrepid and upgraded with much of the technology Voyager brought home.
I really enjoy the idea that Star Trek Online is set in its own very similar but alternate timeline to what we see in Picard and the Prime timeline - a separation occurred somewhere in the period between Voyager's return and the events canonically added in Picard. As a result, Star Trek Online's lore leading to 2409 means we see different ships and delays in commissioning new ones whereas the Prime universe saw these ships get commissioned much sooner
It wont take much to replace Voyager with this Voyager-B in STO, i'm sure there's only a few lines of dialogue where they mention Voyagers age which would have to be removed and they could still have admiral Tuvok as a stand in captain as im sure there's a line saying "what the admiral wants the admiral gets" in regards to Tuvok
Why do they have to keep retconning, though? The may have to switch out the whole Klingon-war, and maybe the Undine too, at this rate. Why not just have alternate campaigns, too?
Considering everything Voyager went through and all of the data they brought back, even if later Admirals and Engineers were opposed to the idea of continuing the Intrepid Class, not capitalizing on that data is a massive mistake, so a Voyager 2.0 ship class was inevitable and I'm glad it looks really good, even featuring the enclosed deflector array like the Dauntless, really shows how much of Voyager's encounters went into the design of the ship
Voyager was a literal gold mine of technology collection. They succeeded in adapting a lot of stuff to the ship. If they can do that no where near a shipyard. Id hope Starfleet engineers could improve it all quickly in dry dock builds.
Yeah....I wonder about that too, because by Picard's time, that would have been invented on it's own by now, so they can't use "future technology" as a reason to suppress it.
Damn i love the deflector strip design so much, i know it's been taken straight from the dauntless, but it looks incredibly sleek. Also the secondary deflector is nice.
I have this ship. The shuttle under the saucer detaches and helps with phasers and quantum torpedoes. Its bugged though. Doesn't seem to follow you to the next batch of enemies
Overall design inspiration from the Intrepid class but with additional influences from Nova class and the rear of the secondary hull looks like a class 2 shuttle.
I think the Intrepid Class Starship might be the most perfect 1st Contact star ship the federation ever had. It can defend itself but its not huge like a galaxy class or similar.
The Trailblazer is very rememiniscent of the "warship Voyager" from that one time the Docter gets reactivated as a relic/museum piece in an alternate future.
It's not a bad looking ship though I feel the upper shuttle bay could be longer to help the lines flow better towards the end. Also the 1 forward, 3 aft torpedo arrangement is just odd. Either balance it out or have most of your tubes facing forward.
I grew up and remain in pretty bad poverty for the United States at least, but if I had money, Rick, i would spend it on your career to help you do this full time all the time. Youre so good at this
New favorite starship. I would like to see my favorite shuttle(deltaflyer) to get a rework like this, my dad's right the scoop in the front on top is a bad design, it should continue in its profile but just have a slight dip for attitude.
Looks great from the top, but other angles aren't so hot. That said, I get a strong feeling it's a design I'd grow to love as time goes on. That's certainly the route Voyager took -- I used to make fun of it all the time back in the day ("the spoon hurrr hurrr"), but nowadays it's in my top 5. :)
Gotta love the fact that not only the Odyssey has made it into picard, NO! They added this here Pathfinder, The Armitage among other ships (AND a Reman shielded one (No Starfleet vessel is somewhere GREEN and has that kind of "window's" or lights!) from STO.
Would like to see Voyager series continuation with this ship and later season with the upgrades done (maybe similar with Enterprise when far out they built their upgrade, the beamwepon, from blueprints).
I have an issue with the nacelles. With them being curved downwards while at impulse it doesn’t make sense to move upward to go to warp which causes them to stick out more and provides an awkward look. It would make more sense to make them move downward kind of making a circular appearance which would have given a more streamlined warp appearance.
I'm just hoping the Voyager B being a Pathfinder class starship means the Voyager A will be Bellerophon class. Whilst Pathfinder isn't my favourite 2410 design (that would be the Sutherland), Bellerophon is my favourite 2409 design and the flow from Intrepid to Bellerophon to Pathfinder is a really sleek transition.
Honestly cant wait till you get to other ships in this era that compliment the Pathfinder. Da Vinci, Appalachia, Thunderchild, Aveneger, Noble, Regent, Valdres, Horatio, Valiant, Sao Paulo, Adamant, Guardian, Augur, Justicar, Venture and Andromeda... The modern fleet as of 2411 (2424 if the clock was on time 😉).
we barely saw the Odyssey class in Picard, the Ent-F is based on. hold your horses, but id assume it would be the next gen slipstream ship, to replace the pathfinder class, considering the Ent F will get a refit, for slipstream based on beta canon, once the NX variants pass the proving ground stages for the Pathfinder class.
@@dustinherk8124 Its likely the ENT-G will be a modification of the Oddessy perhaps a Lexington Class or a Oddessy similar to the Terran Empire's from STO
I'm curious to see what the Voyager-A could be, if we see it in Prodigy season 2. Trailblazer makes more sense to me, Starfleet needs more teeth. Especially after Picard season 3 episode 2, still outgunned by random bad guys.
If there's a Voyager B then surely there should be a Voyager A especially as Star Trek Discovery tells us that by the early 31st century there's a Voyager J.
Pathfinder is my main. Has been for years. I love the design, Tom Marrone did an excellent job advancing the Intrepid Design style. I love the multi-mission bays idea particularly. Pathfinder is the perfect name for it too.
Odyssey - Sovereign 2 Pathfinder - Intrepid 2 Neo-Constitution is obvious Luna Class kindddaaa NXish in shape? California Class - Miranda 2 Wonder if we’ll get ships that are basically Galaxy 2 and Defiant 2
Torpedo-Launcher: One Forward, Three Backwards? This ship is clearly not made for direct attack. If I have next time the chance, I will take it. Thanks for the presentation.
I thought the movable warp nacelles of the Intrepid class were a last-minute compromise to address the damaging effects of TNG-era warp fields? Why on earth would a post-VOY era ship need warp pylons that need to move before warp drive can be engaged, except as an homage to the Intrepid?
Old comment, but to my knowledge the nacelles needing LoS was just an aesthetic design rule, the lore reason behind it never really made it into canon besides some concept art of an energy field between the nacelles for the motion pictures. It was posed by another creator that variable geometry warp nacelles may also serve the purpose of helping better optimize the fields at warp allowing for higher speeds or more efficient travel and/or that because the nacelles on "voyager" type vessels are so small for their output they may not have as good of shielding as larger more traditional nacelles, so folding them away from the hull during impulse may help keep harmful emissions away from the ships hull that are otherwise dispersed harmlessly at warp speeds.
One thing about the Pathfinder class in particular that has me very curious: the warp nacelles look like very stylized Constitution Refit nacelles...I wonder why that is?
Just out of curiosity, is there a design principle for Federation ships? Or is it just a vague guide? I am wondering what constitutes a Federation or Star Fleet design limitation for aesthetics. Some of the things I wonder at is the amount of change that has happened with Star Fleet ships over the shows and movies. All look great, even the Grissom, and some I am very fond of like the TMP Enterprise, and Voyagers ship, but they look very different.
Someone online once characterized Starfleet as designing "breakfast ships" - a pancake (the saucer) and three sausages (the nacelles and engineering hull). Some stretch the pancake, some have five sausages instead of three, but they all look like breakfast.
It's worth mentioning that the basic layout of the Pathfinder very closely resembles an old concept illustration for the Voyager. It got pretty far in the design process, but was ultimately rejected in favor of the Intrepid we know today.
Only thing I didn't like with Voyager (and variants of the ship in Star Trek Online) are the warp pylons. I would have preferred something like what the Reagent variant of the Assault Cruiser (Sovereign Class) or the Avenger Class had. Being solid without a hinge, swept forward and have impulse engines built into them.
The class even has a galley mess hall like Voyager. It has dedicated kitchen staff on board. This ship is expected to be away on mission for extended periods of times. This class is designed to do what Voyager had to adapt to being stranded. It can operate without Starfleet support for extended periods of time. Starfleet realised that proper cooked food was great for ship morale as learned from Voyager.
All thanks to Neelix' book "Leola Root and you - 100 ways to prepare."
Pathfinder goes and finds the way for the Odyssey to follow.
I wonder if they left all of Neelix's own famous Talaxian such and such recipe for whatever emotional issue the crewmember might be having
@@HotForgeChaos Pretty sure they did after making sure things are alright for the crew lmao
6 variable payload torpedo launchers type 5 MK 110 and 13 Mk XIII Phaser arrays plus loads of other weapons maximum Warp 9.996 top speed classified Quantum slipstream & Transwarp.
The intrepid class has always been my favourite ship in all of Trek, with the obvious Sovereign class coming in at a close second …… however this new class is Amazing, even though we don’t know a lot about it, this is slowly becoming no.1 favourite. Such a perfect homage to the OG USS Voyager 😊
It's good to see they keep making decent ships from STO into canon.
im just happy we saw the Enterprise F making it to canon in Picard. a fan designed the Odyssey class, too, in STO's fan art contest.
i'm sure the Hestia will be to, i'm going to be fucking SQUEALING like a girl if it'S the case, cuz if that happens...the U.S.S Legend will be canon :D
I'm hoping we will eventually get an STO successor.
I still want the Dakota, and even the Excalibur, or Noble, say...
Perhaps the Chimera(ii)
I think the producers of Picard took the criticism of the copy-paste fleet in season 1 to heart and the easiest way to bolster their inventory of ship designs was just to port them over from STO.
I like the idea that the voyager A existed at the same time as the origenal Voyager and was commissioned to memorialise the lost crew and for a while both were opperating at the same time.
that works.
isn't NCC--A the original ship by default?
Or maybe Voyager was Refitted?.
@@Kidozy no, -A is the second one or a refit major enough to count as a new ship(for example the NCC-1701 being refit into constitution II class and being redesignated NCC-1701A because the refit was so extensive almost nothing of the original ship was carried over)
@@dodecahedron1 Er, no?
Enterprise A was just a new Conie Class they had remaned from something else.
The OG 1701 was refit to Connie II and didn't get an A designation until it's successor was introduced.
Now, A better example of what you're saying is Discoery. When she recieved her refit, she was assigned the A. Although that was due more to Starfleet not wanting to admit that they lied about Discovery's destruction.
really like the attention to detail of the location of the impulse drives in multiple directions, I always found the lack of those in ships weird considering how they move in the series
Impulse is one way, every other direction is RCS thrusters
The Pathfinder class is an exploration vessel in the same way that the SR-71 Blackbird is a geography mapping plane.
Si ma molto alla larga.
50% warship 50% Science vessel.
@@jasonwestwood7092 Ah yes, the motto of any good Explorer expected to be away from home for quite some time;
"Carry a big microscpe and an even bigger gun."
~some science guy who grew up on CoD, probably
Iirc the USAF occasionally offers to hand off some older spy satellites to NASA to look out instead of in. Same idea here.
Wow, I think the Pathfinder class might even be my new favourite. I love that hull shape and the (for lack of a better term) colouring, and I always love the small-moderate sized science ships that fit a huge amount of awesome tech into a dignified frame without much pomp and circumstance. It's capabilities stand for itself rather than grandeur or size.
If memory serves this was the first ship Thomas Marrone made for STO as well! He's been on quite a journey, from early UI designer, to STO ship designer, to now being behind canon designs including the Enterprise.
The Pathfinder is easily in the top five most beautiful ships that Star Trek Online ever produced. It most certainly deserves to be canonized, so I'm thrilled with this.
My flagship in STO. An absolute beauty and absolutely devastating to your enemies.
I never really looked at this ship before but it is gorgeous.
The Pathfinder-class is such a beautiful addition to Star Trek canon. One of their best.
I wonder why starfleet didn’t create Coaxial warp drive, this was the technology Tom Paris had a look at in one of the episodes of Voyager.
i assume because he only understood the need for a "carburator" but didnt fully understand the technology or how its tech functioned. If Toress or Kim had time to play around with the tech, i think we'd of seen that. (or at the very least designed a new warp scale, after the disaster that was "threshold" where paris achieved warp 10. it'd be nice to see an alpha numeric scaling system that starts at 0 and goes too 15, instead of the normal alpha numeric of 1-16, so we can break off from this 9.6 of the Ent D, but warp 9.975 of voyager being almost twice as fast, and the USS promethius prototype going warp 9.995 which is almost over 2x faster that voyager. the exponential scaling gets kinda stupid muddy at this point. warp 9.9 = 3029 times the speed of light but 9.975 is 5126 times the speed of light and warp 9.995 is 11515 times the speed of light.
Certifiably Ingame actually has a video on this.
it was removed from sto
@@dustinherk8124 Seeing as warp used to go way higher than this 1-10 crap, yeah it could be so much better
@@SkylerLinux wrong; the current warp scale is a revised scale. the TOS era one had 14 steps in it but those 14 are LOWER than warp 8 iirc so
Besides the Pathfinder, I really do love all the ship designs in STO that serve as updates to designs we know and love. Classes like the Adamant, Andromeda, Yamato, Equinox, Hestia, Sutherland, Reliant, Alita, Grissom, and Nobel just to name a few.
I'm imagining a potential Seven of Nine spin off show, where she promotes to captain and takes charge of the Voyager B. That would be an amazing sight to behold! This is a beautiful ship.
Well...
Unfortunately...
It's probably Admiral Janeways Flagship?.
Well, She's got an even better captaincy now.
Captain of the flipping USS Enterprise G baby!
I really like the nacelles being lower instead of the older style of higher. I've always liked the way almost every Star Trek ship looks when you flip it over. The Pathfinder and Trailblazer are a step in that direction.
The pathfinder class is my favorite ship design from STO -if not all of Star Trek-. It has a special place in my heart and I can't wait to possibly see more of it c:
The Voyager-B is a cool design. It also has some elements of Rick Sternbach's concept version of Voyager. The position of the nacelles is why I say that. I wonder if we'll actually see it. I hope we really do see the original Voyager, the Enterprise-A, the Defiant (DS9), the supposed Enterprise-D (probably just saucer) at the Fleet Museum. We might not see that until the finale. I hope the finale will be a couple hours long. I also hope we see the Enterprise-F in more than just one episode.
I love how the Voy-B's nacelles bring to mind the design of the Titan-A's.
I also have an idea of how the writers could easily deal with the front-loading of too many legacy ships too fast: they could simply have Starfleet realize it's going too far with them and simply do away with legacy registrations for a substantial period of time (a number of centuries).
Thank you so very much for highlighting this ship, this is seriously one of my favorite and the best in canon. I also love the Trailblazer variant as well.
As updates to older classes go, I really appreciate how this one really pushes the design boundaries, rather than just looking like a 25th-century skin on a classic skeleton (Ross and Reliant classes especially come to mind).
That would be the type of ship that I would love to command in the future. Exploration, to be the first to see what we have not seen and to show the others that follow the beauty of what is yet to come.
...damn, I didn't think any ship would surpass the Sovereign class for my favourite ship. But...this takes it. I adore the design, and the premise.
awww yes! a 30 minutes fresh upload. Videos taste better when they are still warm.
I always feel like Starfleet doesn't *need* to add the glowy bits to their ships; they just do it because it looks cool, lol.
Same with Klingons and the hits of red, Romulans with the green, and cardassians, Ferengi, and Vulcans with the yellow/orange
No it matters! Just like RGB will make your computer twice as fast, same applies in space ship design!
@@Cdr2002 Visual indicators in cinema eh
I really like the Pathfinder class. It is a true real feeling progression from the Intrepid class. It feels natural. It keeps many elements of the look of the Intrepid and upgraded with much of the technology Voyager brought home.
I love how the Pathfinder/Trailblazer incorporates the tech of the Dauntless. The Vesta also is a great looking ship with Dauntless tech.
Fantastic looking ship, you just feel speed and exploration looking at it, screams scout explorer
I really enjoy the idea that Star Trek Online is set in its own very similar but alternate timeline to what we see in Picard and the Prime timeline - a separation occurred somewhere in the period between Voyager's return and the events canonically added in Picard. As a result, Star Trek Online's lore leading to 2409 means we see different ships and delays in commissioning new ones whereas the Prime universe saw these ships get commissioned much sooner
It wont take much to replace Voyager with this Voyager-B in STO, i'm sure there's only a few lines of dialogue where they mention Voyagers age which would have to be removed and they could still have admiral Tuvok as a stand in captain as im sure there's a line saying "what the admiral wants the admiral gets" in regards to Tuvok
Why do they have to keep retconning, though?
The may have to switch out the whole Klingon-war, and maybe the Undine too, at this rate.
Why not just have alternate campaigns, too?
We can assume that the Pathfinder-class has all internal lighting reduced by 80% compared to the Intrepid-class.
Why?
@@1014p nutrek bridges always have the lights off.
Considering everything Voyager went through and all of the data they brought back, even if later Admirals and Engineers were opposed to the idea of continuing the Intrepid Class, not capitalizing on that data is a massive mistake, so a Voyager 2.0 ship class was inevitable and I'm glad it looks really good, even featuring the enclosed deflector array like the Dauntless, really shows how much of Voyager's encounters went into the design of the ship
Voyager was a literal gold mine of technology collection. They succeeded in adapting a lot of stuff to the ship. If they can do that no where near a shipyard. Id hope Starfleet engineers could improve it all quickly in dry dock builds.
Gave me a smile 😊
In a positive way!
Beautiful ❤️
I've been wondering what happened to the deployable armor Voyager brought back.
Yeah....I wonder about that too, because by Picard's time, that would have been invented on it's own by now, so they can't use "future technology" as a reason to suppress it.
Damn i love the deflector strip design so much, i know it's been taken straight from the dauntless, but it looks incredibly sleek. Also the secondary deflector is nice.
I have this ship. The shuttle under the saucer detaches and helps with phasers and quantum torpedoes. Its bugged though. Doesn't seem to follow you to the next batch of enemies
I love the dark panels on the exterior.
It is interesting to hear they have company names for parts here.
Wow, you and Triangulum is reviewing the SAME ship Class. Classic and Thomas Marone is a genius!
Thanks again Rick fir the informitive video
gorgeous ship
Overall design inspiration from the Intrepid class but with additional influences from Nova class and the rear of the secondary hull looks like a class 2 shuttle.
like the Pathfinder Class was frist ship I buy in the Game. Impressive new desings of the Voyager
I think the Intrepid Class Starship might be the most perfect 1st Contact star ship the federation ever had. It can defend itself but its not huge like a galaxy class or similar.
Since this was made, Pathfinder class vessels were present in Picard 3x09 Vox at Frontier day
How do you think you'd feel if one of these showed up in your space with a bunch of totally not cannons sticking out of every orifice?
The "Pathyeager" looks even cooler IMO.
I absolutely love this design, third after the Sovereign and Odyssey classes.
The Trailblazer is very rememiniscent of the "warship Voyager" from that one time the Docter gets reactivated as a relic/museum piece in an alternate future.
That's what it's based on ( at least the mirror version anyway).
It's not a bad looking ship though I feel the upper shuttle bay could be longer to help the lines flow better towards the end. Also the 1 forward, 3 aft torpedo arrangement is just odd. Either balance it out or have most of your tubes facing forward.
It's an 'exploration' vessel. Most of the time it will be running from larger enemies. Having the torpedo tubes facing aft makes more sense.
She looks like a worthy successor❤!
I grew up and remain in pretty bad poverty for the United States at least, but if I had money, Rick, i would spend it on your career to help you do this full time all the time. Youre so good at this
Yes, thank you~!
Some of the people who worked on tng, ds9, and voy need to be retained to assist with designs of newer ships...
New favorite starship. I would like to see my favorite shuttle(deltaflyer) to get a rework like this, my dad's right the scoop in the front on top is a bad design, it should continue in its profile but just have a slight dip for attitude.
Looks great from the top, but other angles aren't so hot. That said, I get a strong feeling it's a design I'd grow to love as time goes on. That's certainly the route Voyager took -- I used to make fun of it all the time back in the day ("the spoon hurrr hurrr"), but nowadays it's in my top 5. :)
It gives me the vibe of something of a precursor to the SR-1 Normandy from the Mass Effect series.
I recently made a new character to play science ships, and now I know what ship I'm aiming for at the end game.
“It makes it look all sciencey to me!” As all random blue glows should 😌
i'd love to see him do breakdowns on WarFrame :3
3:36)In an after series book, the USS Voyager was stripped of all unauthorized alien technology, modified parts, improvements and field expediencies.
Gotta love the fact that not only the Odyssey has made it into picard, NO! They added this here Pathfinder, The Armitage among other ships (AND a Reman shielded one (No Starfleet vessel is somewhere GREEN and has that kind of "window's" or lights!) from STO.
Would like to see Voyager series continuation with this ship and later season with the upgrades done (maybe similar with Enterprise when far out they built their upgrade, the beamwepon, from blueprints).
Prodigy is Voyager's continuation.
Just with Voyager A
I have an issue with the nacelles. With them being curved downwards while at impulse it doesn’t make sense to move upward to go to warp which causes them to stick out more and provides an awkward look. It would make more sense to make them move downward kind of making a circular appearance which would have given a more streamlined warp appearance.
I would love a video on the Chimera-class, and the Manticore subclass. In honour of Nog.
I'm just hoping the Voyager B being a Pathfinder class starship means the Voyager A will be Bellerophon class.
Whilst Pathfinder isn't my favourite 2410 design (that would be the Sutherland), Bellerophon is my favourite 2409 design and the flow from Intrepid to Bellerophon to Pathfinder is a really sleek transition.
MFW my old STO ship was called the Pathfinder.
I love the ship design, just one point I absolutely despise; the articulated nacelle struts.
I SO WOULD LIKED TO GET A COSMIC SHIP JUST LIKE THIS.
I love this design…
Excellent video.
Honestly cant wait till you get to other ships in this era that compliment the Pathfinder. Da Vinci, Appalachia, Thunderchild, Aveneger, Noble, Regent, Valdres, Horatio, Valiant, Sao Paulo, Adamant, Guardian, Augur, Justicar, Venture and Andromeda... The modern fleet as of 2411 (2424 if the clock was on time 😉).
So many ships with more warhead launchers aft than forward. I find that a bit odd.
The forward one might be a burstfire launcher like the ones on the Enterprise-D.
This video has got me wondering what the Enterprise - G will look like/ what class it will be...
we barely saw the Odyssey class in Picard, the Ent-F is based on. hold your horses, but id assume it would be the next gen slipstream ship, to replace the pathfinder class, considering the Ent F will get a refit, for slipstream based on beta canon, once the NX variants pass the proving ground stages for the Pathfinder class.
@@dustinherk8124 Its likely the ENT-G will be a modification of the Oddessy perhaps a Lexington Class or a Oddessy similar to the Terran Empire's from STO
I'm curious to see what the Voyager-A could be, if we see it in Prodigy season 2. Trailblazer makes more sense to me, Starfleet needs more teeth. Especially after Picard season 3 episode 2, still outgunned by random bad guys.
I would loved to see this ship in action at Picard season 3, and temporary Captain by Seven of Nine.
Hey Rick, can you do a video on the manufacturers of spaceship components?
I like the downward swept engines.
Nice video.
My main Sci toon has a Pathfinder. But as far as looks go, I prefer the Bellerophon skin for aesthetics.
It kinda reminds me of captain Kim's ship from voyager finale
If there's a Voyager B then surely there should be a Voyager A especially as Star Trek Discovery tells us that by the early 31st century there's a Voyager J.
There is, but we have yet to see it on screen, it existed between 2383 and 2401. I'm hyped to see what they design!
Pathfinder is my main. Has been for years. I love the design, Tom Marrone did an excellent job advancing the Intrepid Design style. I love the multi-mission bays idea particularly.
Pathfinder is the perfect name for it too.
Odyssey - Sovereign 2
Pathfinder - Intrepid 2
Neo-Constitution is obvious
Luna Class kindddaaa NXish in shape?
California Class - Miranda 2
Wonder if we’ll get ships that are basically Galaxy 2 and Defiant 2
Sao Paulo is kinda Defiant 2...
Sojourner class (T6 Odyssey variant) is kindaaaa like Galaxy 2...
@@aiosquadron cool!
I wonder if they installed holoprojectors throughout the ship so the EMH could access all decks.
I would love if the voyager-a was the bellerophon design. I wasn't into science vessels in sto until it came out
man we realy need cartoon like adulty startrek series through lores
The protostar (non NX) is voyager-A. Just wont be official till PRO S02E01
Finally, a suitable replacement for the Oberths. 'Small' for modern Starfleet, yet still significantly bigger than a Constitution/Refit.
Torpedo-Launcher:
One Forward, Three Backwards?
This ship is clearly not made for direct attack.
If I have next time the chance, I will take it.
Thanks for the presentation.
Im not one for science ships but I admit I do like the design of the Pathfinder.
I thought the movable warp nacelles of the Intrepid class were a last-minute compromise to address the damaging effects of TNG-era warp fields? Why on earth would a post-VOY era ship need warp pylons that need to move before warp drive can be engaged, except as an homage to the Intrepid?
Old comment, but to my knowledge the nacelles needing LoS was just an aesthetic design rule, the lore reason behind it never really made it into canon besides some concept art of an energy field between the nacelles for the motion pictures.
It was posed by another creator that variable geometry warp nacelles may also serve the purpose of helping better optimize the fields at warp allowing for higher speeds or more efficient travel and/or that because the nacelles on "voyager" type vessels are so small for their output they may not have as good of shielding as larger more traditional nacelles, so folding them away from the hull during impulse may help keep harmful emissions away from the ships hull that are otherwise dispersed harmlessly at warp speeds.
I hope in Picard they have the captain be one of the Lower Deckers’. Captain Tendi perhaps as she’s the science one
One thing about the Pathfinder class in particular that has me very curious: the warp nacelles look like very stylized Constitution Refit nacelles...I wonder why that is?
Just out of curiosity, is there a design principle for Federation ships? Or is it just a vague guide?
I am wondering what constitutes a Federation or Star Fleet design limitation for aesthetics.
Some of the things I wonder at is the amount of change that has happened with Star Fleet ships over the shows and movies. All look great, even the Grissom, and some I am very fond of like the TMP Enterprise, and Voyagers ship, but they look very different.
Someone online once characterized Starfleet as designing "breakfast ships" - a pancake (the saucer) and three sausages (the nacelles and engineering hull). Some stretch the pancake, some have five sausages instead of three, but they all look like breakfast.
It's worth mentioning that the basic layout of the Pathfinder very closely resembles an old concept illustration for the Voyager. It got pretty far in the design process, but was ultimately rejected in favor of the Intrepid we know today.
And the Intrepid looks WAY better than this mess which is why it was rejected as a concept
I know you did the Oberth Class, have you covered the Grissom Class Light Science vessel?
Start Rek is an appropriate title for Janeway. They should have named her ship "Denterprise"
Only thing I didn't like with Voyager (and variants of the ship in Star Trek Online) are the warp pylons. I would have preferred something like what the Reagent variant of the Assault Cruiser (Sovereign Class) or the Avenger Class had. Being solid without a hinge, swept forward and have impulse engines built into them.
Quantum Slipstream? Let's go. 👉🏻