@@sugarbear1225, "clearly lost". Lmao. Yeh, okay. Get off Felger's tiny nuts. He's a glorified shock jock. He's totally clueless but he knows how to stir up the moronic typical Boston sports fans, thus the ratings. He doesn't get ratings for his vast sports knowledge, that's for sure. Mazz and Murray know the bare minimum as well. Mazz used to know baseball, key words, "used to".
@@sugarbear1225, "clearly lost". Lmao. Stop worshipping Felger. He's a glorified shock jock. He has little to no knowledge of sports. All he's good at is riling up the typical moronic sports fan. He knows how to push buttons. That's how he gets ratings. It's definitely not his sports knowledge or takes. Lombardi destroyed Felger.
Felger's A Good for Nothing Piece of Sh☆t ! A Great Segment with Felger+ Mazz, Would Be Watching Him Get Fired ! Why Doesn't He Go2 Wisconsin+ Get2 The Bottom of Why His GreenBay Packer's Fell Apart! They've had Trouble keeping Head Coach's +Losing All Their Best Plyr's!
Ambushing someone; not letting go of his old, lazy narrative … and the way Felger handled this was embarrassing IMO. The guy is negative about everything. We’ve had two decades of unprecedented success and all he does is bitch all day long.
When Belichick lowballed Brady into leaving, and had his huge stockpile of cash to remake the roster two offseasons later, Kraft basically said "This had better work or it's your ass." I can't imagine anyone was more conflicted watching Brady turn Tampa Bay into champions than Kraft, who never wanted him to depart New England, but trusted The Hoodie. Just too many roster misses.
The "irony" is if Brady was still on the roster, at whatever his contract would have been, the number of 2021 Free Agents willing to come to NE would have been more extensive than the slimmer pickings they had to overpay for that offseason. Maybe Joe Thuney decides to stay at a lower cost, maybe Kevin Zeitler or Riley Reiff consider an offer, maybe with less mad money, they choose ONLY Hunter Henry, and don't add Jonnu or Agholor's abominable contracts, and Ndamukong Suh, Patrick Peterson, Leonard Fournette, Richard Sherman, OBJ or JuJu Smith-Shuster look to Foxboro. It wasn't a loaded FA class, but the Brady-lure was always a potent one. Without it, Bill had to WAY overspend to assemble the roster--and it cost him his gig in the end.
Imagine everyone just saying "the wins and losses don't matter in the NFL" Or "those bad decisions are not the fault of the person who made them" Lombardi logic 😆
It was epic!!! Michael Felger was CLEARLY under Micheal Lombardi's skin. It was PERFECT!!! And Felger was right on many topics. Finally, one guy (Felger) speaking in Lombardi's face, and laughing at him.
🫡 not sure why so many people hate on Felgah I think he tells like it is albeit maybe a bit brash and negative at times. But he keeps stuff accountable
Feggler, now that's funny. Go back to Milwaukee and enjoy your money and life. Boston made you a rich boy, be grateful. Fans love their sports, your job was to insult, irritate and frustrate the local fans. It's your stich. The clown next to you use to have panic attacks on WEEI. Then he comes with you and it's time to pay the fans payback back. Sad!!!
Psssst. Lombardi. "You are what your record says you are! " - Bill Parcells Belichick's record without the G.O.A.T. speaks for itself. Deal with it !!!
So after a good rookie season Bill does nothing to advance the offense and hires MP and JJ for coaches and Mac bombs out. What Bill did in 2022 should have gotten him fired.
Great clip boys! Quite possibly the best segment I've ever watched. It's what contentious debates should sound like. Everything else is either scripted or centered on a narrative...looking at you ESPN
2:02 So…after scolding the panel and all media for saying Brady was the key to success, he immediately turns around and says they wouldn’t have been a bad team if they had a good QB. Make sense of that, go ahead 😄4:07 Shilling for his friend, said the quiet part out loud lol
Like Felger, don't like Felger, you have to admit the guy is a fantastic debater. He's never caught off guard, he always has evidence ready for every point he makes.
It's good to hear an actual argument and debate. Usually these interviews are boring because there is no discussion just stories and nodding along. Here. there was plenty of good arguments and pushback on both sides.
He always tells like it is. At times can be cynical. We need sports journalists as fans though. It’s our only conduit to the athletes, coaches, anything in sports news
@@vsop617he didn’t drop Anything; he said he was in the organization so he knew everything, then said he didn’t know anything to specific questions about the money and Kraft. He’s a hypocrite
I think that real Pats fans found Mr Giselle irritating in postseasons from 2007-2012, unable to think he did anything wrong in his awful SBs vs the Giants and even worse conf title games. All of a sudden, fact, truth and reality is a bad thing in today's world. Face it, Kraft refused to trade his "3rd son" and it stunted the rebuild. SF dealt Montana and then Steve Young helped SF to win a SB in 1994.
@afmartin2734 they didn't have a Steve Young so trading Brady to the 49ers most likely means him and Gronk both end up there and winning while the Patriots lose would have seen Bill get fired sooner
@@afmartin2734What rebuild?You people are confounding facts with personal opinions. How’s the rebuild going for the post 1998 Chicago Bulls? Are they getting there?It has only been 26 years.
What are Felger and Mazz? The creepy lying alternate reality loser group? They were mocking BB when he was building the 2nd dynasty. That's how diseased their brains are. Felger and Mazz just feed the revisionist history/alternate reality crowd, and then he tallks over his guests. I will never forget October of 2011 when they verbally assaulted Jon Kraft and asked why the Pats don't build their teams more like the Jets. Just embarrassing. When BB acquired Van Noy, bald dork Mazz mocked it. They were wrong so many times for 15 years, it's hilarious.
That’s the best Felger and Mazz segment in the history of the show… thank you Mr. Lombardi for speaking to them the way I’ve been wanting to speak to them for years!!!
@EatSleepFredo because bill has a huge ego and Lombardi is bill's guy. Bill has been on an ego trip to prove he can win without Tom Brady, to prove that the success is all because of him
@peterwest323 Two of the three men are already gone. But you've got a great point sir. I think he wants to be seen as a guy who knows a lot of things because he was with Davis, Walsh, and belichick. He's maybe right. But at one point, why you name those guys everytime? Some kind of insecurity?
🙎 Without Tom Brady as his starting QB, Bill Belichick, as a Head Coach in the regular season, has 80 career wins and 98 career losses, with 3 winning seasons (with QBs Testaverde, Cassel, and Jones) and 8 losing seasons. 🤵 Belichick enters the Hall of Fame as Tom Brady's "Plus One" guest.
Great radio, Felger clearly had the BB fanboy on toast here. We all want to see BB suck elsewhere so we can hear some new excuses Lombardi can come up with! One things for certain, Lombo doesn't think Oswalds accomplice was Mac Jones!😂
Thank you Michael, for your wisdom. It's amazing how narrow minded the media is and how they speculate on topic they don't know. I love you for your objective point of view and honesty!! You definitely ain't got a call from Bill!!
As a lover of the sport and hard core patriots fan (Bill & Brady). It's painful to listen to these speculation of some of the finest people the sports have ever seen. From leadership to management, to consistently being authentic. We get mad and speculation because they do not conform to our ideas 💡 of leadership and management. We're throwing dirt on the individual responsible for 20+ years of consistency and blessings to the organization. Now we ask why no team hired him. How could they, when all the sports media does is throw dirt on his name, leadership, and accomplishments without rewards to his character and success. They have tarnished the name and character of a good man. None of us would appreciate being spoken of this way, regardless of our successes. And definitely not the people tarnishing the names and accomplishments. 🙏🏾🙏🏾 We're all brothers, father’s, sisters, mother, sons, children. We're all family. We need to learn to love fearlessly and live fully with gratitude 💡🙏🏾💫🤗
@@abrahamsannohThat’s all great and all but as millions of Patriot fans and Felger is saying WHAT HAS BILL ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT TOM BRADY? Facts and numbers speak for themselves. There’s no narrative here. And Felger isn’t even a Brady fanboy. He’s originally from Milwaukee.
what an absolute stooge!!!! This from the man who said K'Neal Harry would be a better player than DK. It's been trending downwards since before Brady went, BB tried to put that trend on Tom, BB has drafted crap for years.
Or a a butt buddy of a GM who passed on Lamar Jackson twice in 1st round of 2018 draf. Ugh so glad Bill is gone but they better get this high end pick right
Great job by Mike. He kept his composure while dealing with a bunch of idiots. Unfortunately, the standard of sports media is at an all time low. So many of these guys can barely string together complete sentences let alone construct a rational argument.
Saying he had a good functional relationship with everyone is complete BS. Ask Asante as Seymour ask Ted ask Brady ask Mac ask Gronk and that list is probably much longer ask Jacobi Meyers like come on Lombardi is such a fraud
Now this is what I want to hear this is an actual debate at 20:40 is exactly why Belicheck should just retire those 6 Super Bowls have gone to his head thinking your smarter than everyone else thinking your to high up to talk to certain people no player or Franchise wants that
They mentioned it later in the show. Murray said it was on brand for them to get duped by a fake account, but Felger got what he wanted out of the interview anyway
This is such BS .. Bill messed this up ...period and he gets the praise and now he gets the negatives ..this guy wants to say oh he was great no matter what facts come forward
@@jeffreykinney635bill Parcells Andy Reid bill Walsh Vince Lombardi all better coaches. Bill is great but his failure on Cleveland and his his failure to rebuild the patriots after forcing out Brady disqualify him from being the GOAT
Wrong. Kraft messed it up. It's a fact that BB wanted to deal Brady before his contract expired. Even MOntana was dealt. BB with extra 1st rders means better drafts during a rebuild. Wake up.
Mazz is a spineless coward. He spent all yr begging for bill to be fired, then he has a chance to talk to one of bill's friends and he turtled like one of Rocky Balboa's aquatic friends.
It's hilarious seeing Lombardi twisting himself into a pretzel trying to defend that overrated bum. This is the same guy that said N'Keal Harry was better than Metcalf. 😂
HAHAHA! "A lot of people in the building liked Mac" B.B. thought he was the franchise QB! The downfall of B.B. was his bad evaluating of talent through the years that was masked by Brady.
This segment is phenomenal for two reasons: 1) Lombardi was totally rattled, and all his empty platitudes and motivational quotes (and lame JFK references) fell short. It's about time someone called out the 'Mouth of Sauron' like this; and 2) can't even congratulate Felger too much because he thinks that's really Patrick Pass. Ls all over the place.
No? Bill's the greatest. He also got stuck in his ways the past few years and ultimately it cost him his job. Both things can be true. @@zechariahcameron3645
I love the punchline "Speak for yourself." The media needs account and Education on the messages they deliver to the audience. You guys are influencing potential good people with your false narratives. Your should be on trial with the rest of social media!! Education on ethics and moral is needed for the media. Thank you again Michael for your wisdom!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Reid couldnt win the big game. Thats what ran him out of Philly. Of course Lombardi has BB balls on his chin, hes built a career off bills monster balls
I generally enjoy Lombardi’s NFL insights but no one in Belichick’s orbit is going to say anything that would harm their relationship with him. The back-and-forth was entertaining but I stopped watching at the halfway mark because it was getting embarrassing.
@@zechariahcameron3645 he’s an excellent defensive coordinator however his offensive knowledge leaves a lot. He’s not a bad coach just not the best GM out there
Lombardi should never be taken serious when talking about Belichick smh. This is why I can’t stand hearing ppl talk about their friends because they’re bias. This is the very definition of blaming everybody else but yourself smh. Lombardi was in his feelings about his bestie🤣🤣🙄.
@@Zahok1Lombardi is clearly the biased one. There is no real defense for Bill. Bill built the terrible offense and hasn’t had very good drafts in years. Bill is mostly to blame for the current state of the Pats. That’s reality. The game passes all the greats by eventually.
@@Zahok1 Felger is not being bias… all he is doing is going by the scoreboard. Felger has once said that back in the day he used to think it was 50-50 between Brady & bill but the scoreboard has changed his mind on that & now he knows Brady was more responsible. That doesn’t sound like a guy that’s bias at all actually. That sounds like somebody to me who is unbiased & goes by the facts not his feelings unlike Lombardi who is clearly in his feelings about Belichick because that’s his friend & he has not changed his mind based on what’s happened the last several years at all.
@@tannerpaquette9922 Felger is not being bias… all he is doing is going by the scoreboard. Felger has once said that back in the day he used to think it was 50-50 between Brady & bill but the scoreboard has changed his mind on that & now he knows Brady was more responsible.
Him not having a job is about power, not coaching ability. My guess is you never held a management position in a organization. You also probably think the "best person" is hired for the job.
Lombardi got his ass kicked, but where Felger is wrong about Belichick is that you need Belichick’s defense to widen the score. You must have more points than the opponent at the end of the game to win, and the defense limits the opponent’s scoring totals with the offense needing to score more than the opponent. Belichick isn’t as well-rounded on offense and defense as we thought he was. Brady didn’t just help him. Josh McDaniels and Charlie Weis did too. Let’s face it. He didn’t want Bill O’Brien. Kraft did, and like Belichick - a full control lover - would want Billy O!
I don't think it was the Mac thing cause you could argue Mac wasn't the same after that Buffalo wind game. I think it was Brady thing and Bill telling Kraft that Brady couldn't play anymore.
@fatpatlives1998 I agree, I think Bill gets alot of blame but I listened to a podcast with OBJ he wanted the Giants to trade him yo the patriots but they were being petty things could of have been alot different if that happened
I don't have a dog in this fight but watched it for pespective on BB and for entertainment value. You know someone has lost the debate when they throw as many ad-hominem attacks as Lombardi did to Felger. I was impressed at how Felger took the attacks in style, remembered the sttacks and counter-attacked Lombardi with wit and humor, especially on the Lombardi's statement that "BB gets along with everyone". I don't know any of these people but Lombardi comes off as a horse's rear end in this interview.
This was super entertaining to watch. I'm not on either side of the argument here I think they both have pros and cons in their arguments. But man, the amount of comments here that are gargling Felger's balls is astounding
There were no offensive weapons, no O-line, no QB would have made it work. Yes l, Mac is not good, but he's not as bad as he looked... also, BB was in charge of personnel, no excuses for having a bad team...
You bring up Brady only throwing a little over a hundred yards in his first SB, please explain why NE lost the Eagles who had a second string QB and Brady throws for over 500 yards and they had a total offense of over 600 yards and Bill let’s his starting corner sit on the bench while his defense was getting carved up? No one hates Bill but when you continue to get worst and build a terrible offense over a few years you are going to get fired. Please explain why Bill ran Tom out of town and he had no backup plan. Why did he let Myers walk and Folk and then draft two kickers who suck. Bill the GM was the issue not Bill the coach.
Yes exactly, Malcolm Butler, not only did he bench him but Belichick ate up an extra roster spot by dressing him. He thought he could cruise to S.B. win
Why Didn't Mike ask about Butler being Bench Against Philly in The SB & Bill Costing the Pat's another Title Because He''s All about Winning after All !!
Boston Sports Radio GOLD. Felgah takes out the microscope while driving his opinions and Lombardi gives his opinions from his inside perspective. One's a media driven narrative perspective and the other is closer to ground zero. The truth is in the middle. Imagine being Jim Murray sitting 3 to 4 feet from them and witnessing this live sports radio porn in real time. Ya gotta be fahkin kiddin me kid...
I dislike Felger's takes most of the time because I feel like most of his opinions on the Pats are based more on perception than fact but I think he's absolutely right here. Lombardi is clearly either bullshitting or off his rocker and Felger isn't letting him off the hook. This is when Felger is at his best.
I think he always brings facts. He admits when he’s wrong too. I’ve been watching this show since it launched. He can be cynical at times but there’s a reason he’s arguably the best sports journalist in New England. He covered the Pats and Bruins for years. He knows his stuff. Shaugnessy is legit too and I like Holley
@@moheganson If you listened to any of the preseason coverage from guys like Bedard, Barth, or Kyles and then Felger, there was a drastic difference, I felt like I had spent more time following the team than he did but he spoke very strongly about a lot of things because he had preconceived notions. Then he started paying closer attention during the regular season but he still carried some of those notions over. He had some heated debates with Bedard about Pats stuff and Bedard was/is around the team and covering the team waaaaay more than Felger.
@@jayy88 Absolutely. Curran is more annoying than Bedard. I would have loved to see Ted Johnson ask this fool Lombardi some questions You can tell there’s so many former players that don’t like Bill and respect the heck out of Tom Players make coaches.
Second greatest spilling of tea in Boston history.
ESPN should learn from this. This is real honest genuine debate. Both men passionate and real. Not fake ESPN debates.
Hats 🎩 off for Felgah
Mmhmm
This. Was. Awesome. Two men not used to getting pushback on their outlandish opinions both getting it from each other.
Yeah but lombardi clearly lost. When Lombardi started spending more time taking shots at felger than defending Belichick it was over
Lombardi is very close to Belichick
Nice. 2 deflating balloons careening around the room.
@@sugarbear1225, "clearly lost". Lmao. Yeh, okay. Get off Felger's tiny nuts. He's a glorified shock jock. He's totally clueless but he knows how to stir up the moronic typical Boston sports fans, thus the ratings. He doesn't get ratings for his vast sports knowledge, that's for sure. Mazz and Murray know the bare minimum as well. Mazz used to know baseball, key words, "used to".
@@sugarbear1225, "clearly lost". Lmao. Stop worshipping Felger. He's a glorified shock jock. He has little to no knowledge of sports. All he's good at is riling up the typical moronic sports fan. He knows how to push buttons. That's how he gets ratings. It's definitely not his sports knowledge or takes. Lombardi destroyed Felger.
This is right up there with the John Henry interview. This will be remembered for years
This was the ideal amount of Mazz
🦜
"Preech" 😂😂
🐢… pathetic
I was waiting to hear from Belichick and here it was. - that struck a nerve. 😂
It was like watching a snake fight a mongoose
It might as well have been Belichick. If you check out the bts footage you can see his fingers moving.
This is one of the greatest segments in Felger & Mazz history. Lombardi had no clue what he was walking into.
And as always he looked like an idiot
Mike is a goof ,what does Bill have on him I wonder 😅
Felger's A Good for Nothing Piece of Sh☆t ! A Great Segment with Felger+ Mazz, Would Be Watching Him Get Fired ! Why Doesn't He Go2 Wisconsin+ Get2 The Bottom of Why His GreenBay Packer's Fell Apart! They've had Trouble keeping Head Coach's +Losing All Their Best Plyr's!
Agreee
Ambushing someone; not letting go of his old, lazy narrative … and the way Felger handled this was embarrassing IMO. The guy is negative about everything. We’ve had two decades of unprecedented success and all he does is bitch all day long.
is it me or the sound is 2 seconds behind
"I've been waiting to hear from Bill and there it was" 😂😂😂😂
INCREDIBLE!!!! As a die hard Pats fan, this was Xmas!!
When Belichick lowballed Brady into leaving, and had his huge stockpile of cash to remake the roster two offseasons later, Kraft basically said "This had better work or it's your ass." I can't imagine anyone was more conflicted watching Brady turn Tampa Bay into champions than Kraft, who never wanted him to depart New England, but trusted The Hoodie. Just too many roster misses.
Yeah but he has a good, functional relationship with everybody! 🤣
Bill used that stockpile of cash to turn the patriots into the 1993 Cleveland Browns 🤮
Screw up - pay up
The "irony" is if Brady was still on the roster, at whatever his contract would have been, the number of 2021 Free Agents willing to come to NE would have been more extensive than the slimmer pickings they had to overpay for that offseason. Maybe Joe Thuney decides to stay at a lower cost, maybe Kevin Zeitler or Riley Reiff consider an offer, maybe with less mad money, they choose ONLY Hunter Henry, and don't add Jonnu or Agholor's abominable contracts, and Ndamukong Suh, Patrick Peterson, Leonard Fournette, Richard Sherman, OBJ or JuJu Smith-Shuster look to Foxboro. It wasn't a loaded FA class, but the Brady-lure was always a potent one. Without it, Bill had to WAY overspend to assemble the roster--and it cost him his gig in the end.
Tampa Bay got lucky in both the playoffs and SB.
Which is why they didn't return the next year and won't be back anytime soon.
Imagine everyone just saying "the wins and losses don't matter in the NFL"
Or "those bad decisions are not the fault of the person who made them"
Lombardi logic 😆
It was epic!!! Michael Felger was CLEARLY under Micheal Lombardi's skin. It was PERFECT!!! And Felger was right on many topics.
Finally, one guy (Felger) speaking in Lombardi's face, and laughing at him.
🫡 not sure why so many people hate on Felgah I think he tells like it is albeit maybe a bit brash and negative at times. But he keeps stuff accountable
I couldn't stop laughing when he called him Feggler
thats his name
@@DerekL2005 same thing 🤓
Feggler, now that's funny. Go back to Milwaukee and enjoy your money and life. Boston made you a rich boy, be grateful. Fans love their sports, your job was to insult, irritate and frustrate the local fans. It's your stich. The clown next to you use to have panic attacks on WEEI. Then he comes with you and it's time to pay the fans payback back. Sad!!!
...and a nickname is born
Same. That killed me😂
Psssst. Lombardi.
"You are what your record says you are! " - Bill Parcells
Belichick's record without the G.O.A.T. speaks for itself.
Deal with it !!!
So after a good rookie season Bill does nothing to advance the offense and hires MP and JJ for coaches and Mac bombs out. What Bill did in 2022 should have gotten him fired.
But he has a good functional relationship with everybody 🤣
Felger keeping it 💯
Macs first season was not that good at the end. After Mac got injured and he cried his way off the field I thought it was over.
How do yall not sync up the audio with the visual you’re a major company ..
Low budget management
Great clip boys! Quite possibly the best segment I've ever watched. It's what contentious debates should sound like. Everything else is either scripted or centered on a narrative...looking at you ESPN
Screamin A Smith 🙄 I’ll take Felger as a sports journalist over anyone any day
2:02 So…after scolding the panel and all media for saying Brady was the key to success, he immediately turns around and says they wouldn’t have been a bad team if they had a good QB. Make sense of that, go ahead 😄4:07 Shilling for his friend, said the quiet part out loud lol
I just realized one thing I want before I die (besides 2 chicks at the same time) is watching Felger vs Bill. 🍿 🎆 🎇 💥
@@hockeyrules160😂
I would literally pay hundreds of dollars to hear Felger and Mazz interview Bill, if Bill was actually even a little honest
@@hockeyrules160hahaha I know what it’s like I have a 2 year old
Go Pats!
Like Felger, don't like Felger, you have to admit the guy is a fantastic debater. He's never caught off guard, he always has evidence ready for every point he makes.
If 98.5 ever goes belly up he’d make a great lawyer 😂
@@moheganson Watch the video of him on the couch arguing with Portnoy. He batted down every one of Portnoy's points with ease.
I was in the building!
Oh I wasn’t in those meetings.
Classic 😂
I couldn't stop laughing 🤣😂
When the truth is on not your side just start lying
This is solid gold! Go Felger!!!
Yeah it’s hard to believe Lombardi wrote a book too.
Either his editor was good or the ghost writer was amazing
Lombardi: "You saw it when he won with Cam Newton"
Felger: "7-9?!?"
All-time exchange lol
“That was then n this is now” Michael Lombardi
It's good to hear an actual argument and debate. Usually these interviews are boring because there is no discussion just stories and nodding along. Here. there was plenty of good arguments and pushback on both sides.
This is why FELGER is the goat 🐐
He always tells like it is. At times can be cynical. We need sports journalists as fans though. It’s our only conduit to the athletes, coaches, anything in sports news
❤ you Mike!!! This was great to see! I wish Tom Curran was there to get some of this too.
This tape needs to be sent to the Smithsonian archives to be preserved forever
“I got two rings”- Mike Lombardi
Lol
Great back and forth!
I had to take a Xanax
Lombardi needs to fire his PR guy. How did he not tell them he was walking into a war with Felger?
Also known as Feggler
Whole of Lombardi's argument was "You don't know him like I do, that's why you are wrong". Buffoon gor clowned by Felgar and didn't even realize it.
No one gets "clowned" by Felger or Mazz. These were the dorks in high school everyone kind of chuckled at.
Lombo dropping actual references and back up, but all fegler did was talk over any argument that could prove himself wrong lol
@@vsop617he didn’t drop
Anything; he said he was in the organization so he knew everything, then said he didn’t know anything to specific questions about the money and Kraft. He’s a hypocrite
Mazz was playing the intimidater. The man did not once blink or look away from Lombardi. Thats true Alpha Male Energy.
“You take Metcalf before him, you’re an idiot. You’re an idiot.”
Kneal Harry the GOAT
Kneal. LOL
Thank you Mike for saying that the Pats are the lowest paying team in the league. Not everyone realizes this
Yes- And These radios haven't played football- and don't realize how Bill knows the ins and outs of every player.
Also, it's kinda obvious Lombardi and Joe Judge were the sources that hated Brady lol
And Mac Jones
I think that real Pats fans found Mr Giselle irritating in postseasons from 2007-2012, unable to think he did anything wrong in his awful SBs vs the Giants and even worse conf title games. All of a sudden, fact, truth and reality is a bad thing in today's world. Face it, Kraft refused to trade his "3rd son" and it stunted the rebuild. SF dealt Montana and then Steve Young helped SF to win a SB in 1994.
@afmartin2734 they didn't have a Steve Young so trading Brady to the 49ers most likely means him and Gronk both end up there and winning while the Patriots lose would have seen Bill get fired sooner
@@afmartin2734What rebuild?You people are confounding facts with personal opinions. How’s the rebuild going for the post 1998 Chicago Bulls? Are they getting there?It has only been 26 years.
Brady had a No Trade Clause you troll @@afmartin2734
The best radio they've had in 12 yrs. And yes that's a backhanded compliment.
"I'm not here to shill for BB" says the BB shill
What are Felger and Mazz? The creepy lying alternate reality loser group? They were mocking BB when he was building the 2nd dynasty. That's how diseased their brains are. Felger and Mazz just feed the revisionist history/alternate reality crowd, and then he tallks over his guests. I will never forget October of 2011 when they verbally assaulted Jon Kraft and asked why the Pats don't build their teams more like the Jets. Just embarrassing. When BB acquired Van Noy, bald dork Mazz mocked it. They were wrong so many times for 15 years, it's hilarious.
Michael Felger " Michael Bishop is going better QB then 6rounder from Michigan who could not start"
Seriously. Criticizing them for pushing a narrative because they mentioned Bill's win/loss record. Felger had reason to be dumbfounded.
Felger is a patriots hater on patriots radio and you guys defend him like hes gospel
@@abon587no narrative. Facts.
That’s the best Felger and Mazz segment in the history of the show… thank you Mr. Lombardi for speaking to them the way I’ve been wanting to speak to them for years!!!
Lombardi still living in the past
All of the Belichick bobos do
He's living in the past and he's incredibly condescending. He thinks bill is a God and anyone who doesn't agree isn't worth his time
@@JJ_5289 he took it very personal for no reason 😂
@EatSleepFredo because bill has a huge ego and Lombardi is bill's guy. Bill has been on an ego trip to prove he can win without Tom Brady, to prove that the success is all because of him
The best 98.5 moment of the year and we’re in February. “Fegler” was a personal highlight
Why is Lombardi referencing Lee Harvey Oswald over and over? Odd
This guy name-drops Walsh, Belichick, and Al Davis in every conversation. No one ever will name-drop "Michael Lombardi".
@peterwest323
Two of the three men are already gone. But you've got a great point sir. I think he wants to be seen as a guy who knows a lot of things because he was with Davis, Walsh, and belichick. He's maybe right. But at one point, why you name those guys everytime? Some kind of insecurity?
🙎 Without Tom Brady as his starting QB, Bill Belichick, as a Head Coach in the regular season, has 80 career wins and 98 career losses, with 3 winning seasons (with QBs Testaverde, Cassel, and Jones) and 8 losing seasons. 🤵 Belichick enters the Hall of Fame as Tom Brady's "Plus One" guest.
You might as well wear a sign around your neck that says in all capital letters “I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL”
@@liamcarlen8929 😒 There's really not much to know, which makes it ideal for Americans.
I’m not even a pats fan and this was glorious
Felger puts the clamps down on anybody!
Great radio, Felger clearly had the BB fanboy on toast here. We all want to see BB suck elsewhere so we can hear some new excuses Lombardi can come up with! One things for certain, Lombo doesn't think Oswalds accomplice was Mac Jones!😂
Lombardi remember Butler. Lombardi just protecting his guy
Thank you Michael, for your wisdom. It's amazing how narrow minded the media is and how they speculate on topic they don't know.
I love you for your objective point of view and honesty!! You definitely ain't got a call from Bill!!
We need sports journalists as fans. There are conduit to the sports world. They’re not just “media”
Are meteorologists “media”. We need them for weather.
As a lover of the sport and hard core patriots fan (Bill & Brady). It's painful to listen to these speculation of some of the finest people the sports have ever seen.
From leadership to management, to consistently being authentic.
We get mad and speculation because they do not conform to our ideas 💡 of leadership and management. We're throwing dirt on the individual responsible for 20+ years of consistency and blessings to the organization.
Now we ask why no team hired him. How could they, when all the sports media does is throw dirt on his name, leadership, and accomplishments without rewards to his character and success.
They have tarnished the name and character of a good man.
None of us would appreciate being spoken of this way, regardless of our successes. And definitely not the people tarnishing the names and accomplishments. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
We're all brothers, father’s, sisters, mother, sons, children. We're all family. We need to learn to love fearlessly and live fully with gratitude 💡🙏🏾💫🤗
@@abrahamsannohThat’s all great and all but as millions of Patriot fans and Felger is saying
WHAT HAS BILL ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT TOM BRADY?
Facts and numbers speak for themselves. There’s no narrative here. And Felger isn’t even a Brady fanboy. He’s originally from Milwaukee.
Side with felger on this one but I love the quick shot at Mazz being awfully quiet at the end
“I’m just the baseball guy” 😂😂😂
Smart move from Mazz tbh. Would've seemed like a set up if mazz started piling on Lombardi.
what an absolute stooge!!!! This from the man who said K'Neal Harry would be a better player than DK. It's been trending downwards since before Brady went, BB tried to put that trend on Tom, BB has drafted crap for years.
Or a a butt buddy of a GM who passed on Lamar Jackson twice in 1st round of 2018 draf. Ugh so glad Bill is gone but they better get this high end pick right
Thank you for setting Lombardi straight… His Belichick takes we’re getting a bit Delusional and Bias.
Great job by Mike. He kept his composure while dealing with a bunch of idiots. Unfortunately, the standard of sports media is at an all time low. So many of these guys can barely string together complete sentences let alone construct a rational argument.
Best segment 🎉
Saying he had a good functional relationship with everyone is complete BS. Ask Asante as Seymour ask Ted ask Brady ask Mac ask Gronk and that list is probably much longer ask Jacobi Meyers like come on Lombardi is such a fraud
Alex Guerrero so many former players and I really like Ted Johnson on this show and NBC sports Boston
You get a vibe he dislikes Bill
You can tell he's been good friends will bill.. and making excuses..
Now this is what I want to hear this is an actual debate at 20:40 is exactly why Belicheck should just retire those 6 Super Bowls have gone to his head thinking your smarter than everyone else thinking your to high up to talk to certain people no player or Franchise wants that
I wish Felger had said, “Mike, the effing FALCONS wanted RAHEEM MORRIS over him!”
That's not actually Patrick Pass
They mentioned it later in the show. Murray said it was on brand for them to get duped by a fake account, but Felger got what he wanted out of the interview anyway
This is such BS .. Bill messed this up ...period and he gets the praise and now he gets the negatives ..this guy wants to say oh he was great no matter what facts come forward
Not only is he great. He’s the coaching GOAT
@@jeffreykinney635bill Parcells Andy Reid bill Walsh Vince Lombardi all better coaches. Bill is great but his failure on Cleveland and his his failure to rebuild the patriots after forcing out Brady disqualify him from being the GOAT
@@jeffreykinney635oh I forgot Joe Gibbs is also a better coach
Wrong. Kraft messed it up. It's a fact that BB wanted to deal Brady before his contract expired. Even MOntana was dealt. BB with extra 1st rders means better drafts during a rebuild. Wake up.
Yeah like all the “in Bill we trust” crap
Mazz is a spineless coward. He spent all yr begging for bill to be fired, then he has a chance to talk to one of bill's friends and he turtled like one of Rocky Balboa's aquatic friends.
It's hilarious seeing Lombardi twisting himself into a pretzel trying to defend that overrated bum. This is the same guy that said N'Keal Harry was better than Metcalf. 😂
Isnt he a belichick shill?
Just listen to Gronk’s interview on New Heights to see how much Brady was responsible for the offense during his tenure there
Brady held this dynasty together. Brady > Bill
HAHAHA! "A lot of people in the building liked Mac" B.B. thought he was the franchise QB! The downfall of B.B. was his bad evaluating of talent through the years that was masked by Brady.
My Belichick Narrative: Biggest Fraud in the History of Sports!
This segment is phenomenal for two reasons: 1) Lombardi was totally rattled, and all his empty platitudes and motivational quotes (and lame JFK references) fell short. It's about time someone called out the 'Mouth of Sauron' like this; and 2) can't even congratulate Felger too much because he thinks that's really Patrick Pass. Ls all over the place.
You sound mad that people actually appreciate how great Bill is. You are in denial of his greatness!
No? Bill's the greatest. He also got stuck in his ways the past few years and ultimately it cost him his job. Both things can be true. @@zechariahcameron3645
Lombardi didn't help himself by bringing up Lee Harvey Oswald multiple times.
Lombardi the definition of a Belichick croney
And Felger is one of the biggest Belichick haters on the planet, so this was like an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Hilarious
@@Benny-jg6puCuz Belichick is a cheater and the biggest fraud in sports. The Falcons hired RAHEEM MORRIS over him 😂
Pats fans are the definition of clueless.
I love the punchline "Speak for yourself."
The media needs account and Education on the messages they deliver to the audience. You guys are influencing potential good people with your false narratives. Your should be on trial with the rest of social media!!
Education on ethics and moral is needed for the media.
Thank you again Michael for your wisdom!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Reid couldnt win the big game. Thats what ran him out of Philly.
Of course Lombardi has BB balls on his chin, hes built a career off bills monster balls
these guys wont be having lunch anytime soon.
I generally enjoy Lombardi’s NFL insights but no one in Belichick’s orbit is going to say anything that would harm their relationship with him. The back-and-forth was entertaining but I stopped watching at the halfway mark because it was getting embarrassing.
lol 😂 u missed feglah
How is Belichick a bad coach?
@@zechariahcameron3645 he’s an excellent defensive coordinator however his offensive knowledge leaves a lot. He’s not a bad coach just not the best GM out there
Belichick was a great coach, it is interesting he didn't go to another team yet. On the flip side Lombardi did draft JaMarcus Russell
If you knew anything you’d know Al Davis made all the decisions for the Raiders
@@andretroncao it is well documented that Lombardi wanted him
@@andretroncao and I do know a little something idiot
And I guess Lombardi saying the Montez Sweat trade was a horrible move by the Bears was someone else too?
@@andretroncaoif you knew anything the Falcons hired RAHEEM MORRIS over the “greatest coach ever” 😂
This guy said BB is coming back? To where and to what? High school football? Com on jazz
I agree 100% with felger. I think Lombardi is trying to carry bill's water, which i understand, but i think Lombardi is ignoring the reality
Lombardi should never be taken serious when talking about Belichick smh. This is why I can’t stand hearing ppl talk about their friends because they’re bias. This is the very definition of blaming everybody else but yourself smh. Lombardi was in his feelings about his bestie🤣🤣🙄.
Felger isnt bias?
dude Felger sitting here antagonizing any point that doesnt support him and you think Lombardi is the biased one?
@@Zahok1Lombardi is clearly the biased one. There is no real defense for Bill. Bill built the terrible offense and hasn’t had very good drafts in years. Bill is mostly to blame for the current state of the Pats. That’s reality. The game passes all the greats by eventually.
@@Zahok1 Felger is not being bias… all he is doing is going by the scoreboard. Felger has once said that back in the day he used to think it was 50-50 between Brady & bill but the scoreboard has changed his mind on that & now he knows Brady was more responsible. That doesn’t sound like a guy that’s bias at all actually. That sounds like somebody to me who is unbiased & goes by the facts not his feelings unlike Lombardi who is clearly in his feelings about Belichick because that’s his friend & he has not changed his mind based on what’s happened the last several years at all.
@@tannerpaquette9922 Felger is not being bias… all he is doing is going by the scoreboard. Felger has once said that back in the day he used to think it was 50-50 between Brady & bill but the scoreboard has changed his mind on that & now he knows Brady was more responsible.
Yeah Felger won this argument but super entertaining!
Felger didn't criticize Bellichick the numbers speak for themselves. About 7 teams needed a coach he still don't have a job.
Him not having a job is about power, not coaching ability.
My guess is you never held a management position in a organization.
You also probably think the "best person" is hired for the job.
@@RK-um9tubetter than Bill yes lol
Imagine hating the coach that brought you 6 championships.
Love this man!!! Peach
Lombardi got his ass kicked, but where Felger is wrong about Belichick is that you need Belichick’s defense to widen the score.
You must have more points than the opponent at the end of the game to win, and the defense limits the opponent’s scoring totals with the offense needing to score more than the opponent.
Belichick isn’t as well-rounded on offense and defense as we thought he was. Brady didn’t just help him. Josh McDaniels and Charlie Weis did too. Let’s face it. He didn’t want Bill O’Brien. Kraft did, and like Belichick - a full control lover - would want Billy O!
Ok, now we can be sure that Lombardi is full of it.
Lombardi would let Bill creampie him if he asked
W
Andy Reid only had Kobb for like a game he went with Vick, who finished second in MVP behind Brady
Vick was better than McNabb by that point....bill didn't have that opportunity but I believe he got fired not due to the losing but ruining Mac Jones
I don't think it was the Mac thing cause you could argue Mac wasn't the same after that Buffalo wind game. I think it was Brady thing and Bill telling Kraft that Brady couldn't play anymore.
Andy Reid is the 🐐 coach.
@HoodedAlchemy that as welll...if bill would have let Brady play it out kraft probably gives him more time
@fatpatlives1998 I agree, I think Bill gets alot of blame but I listened to a podcast with OBJ he wanted the Giants to trade him yo the patriots but they were being petty things could of have been alot different if that happened
Also, Lombardi *really* tried to land that Kennedy assassination analogy, didn't he?
Geez... Awesome!
I don't have a dog in this fight but watched it for pespective on BB and for entertainment value. You know someone has lost the debate when they throw as many ad-hominem attacks as Lombardi did to Felger. I was impressed at how Felger took the attacks in style, remembered the sttacks and counter-attacked Lombardi with wit and humor, especially on the Lombardi's statement that "BB gets along with everyone". I don't know any of these people but Lombardi comes off as a horse's rear end in this interview.
This was super entertaining to watch. I'm not on either side of the argument here I think they both have pros and cons in their arguments. But man, the amount of comments here that are gargling Felger's balls is astounding
There were no offensive weapons, no O-line, no QB would have made it work. Yes l, Mac is not good, but he's not as bad as he looked... also, BB was in charge of personnel, no excuses for having a bad team...
Yea this guy couldn't make a single meaningful point because he has bills junk between his teeth
You bring up Brady only throwing a little over a hundred yards in his first SB, please explain why NE lost the Eagles who had a second string QB and Brady throws for over 500 yards and they had a total offense of over 600 yards and Bill let’s his starting corner sit on the bench while his defense was getting carved up? No one hates Bill but when you continue to get worst and build a terrible offense over a few years you are going to get fired. Please explain why Bill ran Tom out of town and he had no backup plan. Why did he let Myers walk and Folk and then draft two kickers who suck. Bill the GM was the issue not Bill the coach.
Yes exactly, Malcolm Butler, not only did he bench him but Belichick ate up an extra roster spot by dressing him. He thought he could cruise to S.B. win
Felger mopped the floor with Lombardi
Why Didn't Mike ask about Butler being Bench Against Philly in The SB & Bill Costing the Pat's another Title Because He''s All about Winning after All !!
Boston Sports Radio GOLD. Felgah takes out the microscope while driving his opinions and Lombardi gives his opinions from his inside perspective. One's a media driven narrative perspective and the other is closer to ground zero. The truth is in the middle. Imagine being Jim Murray sitting 3 to 4 feet from them and witnessing this live sports radio porn in real time. Ya gotta be fahkin kiddin me kid...
Lombardi is doing an horrible job at weaseling out of this conversation
This was great. Great job Lombo!
all timer right here
Thank you Felger, eat it Lombardi
lol okay bro
Lombardi is awesome, most people would walk off. Too much honesty for the host
I dislike Felger's takes most of the time because I feel like most of his opinions on the Pats are based more on perception than fact but I think he's absolutely right here. Lombardi is clearly either bullshitting or off his rocker and Felger isn't letting him off the hook. This is when Felger is at his best.
I think he always brings facts. He admits when he’s wrong too. I’ve been watching this show since it launched. He can be cynical at times but there’s a reason he’s arguably the best sports journalist in New England. He covered the Pats and Bruins for years. He knows his stuff. Shaugnessy is legit too and I like Holley
@@moheganson If you listened to any of the preseason coverage from guys like Bedard, Barth, or Kyles and then Felger, there was a drastic difference, I felt like I had spent more time following the team than he did but he spoke very strongly about a lot of things because he had preconceived notions. Then he started paying closer attention during the regular season but he still carried some of those notions over. He had some heated debates with Bedard about Pats stuff and Bedard was/is around the team and covering the team waaaaay more than Felger.
@@dur-deegaming3153Ya but Bedard and Curran could never admit Max sucks 😂
Bedard and Curran are both Mac fanboys.
@@jayy88 Absolutely. Curran is more annoying than Bedard. I would have loved to see Ted Johnson ask this fool Lombardi some questions
You can tell there’s so many former players that don’t like Bill and respect the heck out of Tom
Players make coaches.