Listening to your review the one question I had was “Does it work with Linux?” as I just don’t buy any hardware that is Windows only. Thanks for making Linux compatibilty part of your review. Very helpful 10/10.
An awesome review and video as per usual, Adam! 😆👍👍 As ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to go into such a high level of detail and thoroughness with your testing and overall conclusions. ☺👌 Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
I'm using this thing to play ps3 on my macbook and it's awesome. The latency is definetly there but i got used to it real quick, i'm using the official avermedia software for preview and i'm not noticing any latency fluctuation. This is probably the best bet for using a laptop as a display.
I am just ready for the next evolution of these cards we need a 4K 144 Hz box and ideally it would be nice to see one that is compatible with HDR pass-through compatible tone mapping and possibly even allow us to use display port or HDMI 2.1. I know that this is a big ask but the technology is already available to utilize it we just need someone to develop it.
The tech isn't exactly "already available to utilize it" unfortunately. HDMI 2.1 chipsets are still super expensive and hard to get (especially with shortages), there's not even switches/splitters with it out in the world. And no one knows what to do with all the crazy features like VRR that really make no sense in a capture scenario, etc. It'll be a while
Hi, may I know if I can record 4K gameplay from my ps4 pro? Because I tried many other USB capture device but they dont let me really record 4K from the ps4 Pro becaues it outputs at 4k60hz, most card will just convert the 4k60hz to 1080p60, so what about this one? Thanks.
One thing I'd like to know is if this would work with a dreamcast VGA cable which is connected to a VGA to HDMI convertor. my original elgato craps its pants and shows a black box.... so I'm unable to capture footage BUT passthrough still works.
Does this work in multiple apps simultaneously? That's my current issue with the Cam Link. Or other USB capture card that can do 4k30 to multiple apps you would suggest? From ElGato it looks like the only cards that support multi-app & 4k are PCIe. Thanks!
Awesome to see such a serious competitor with *that* low a latency and at such quality and price point. It's bonkers! By the by, that shirt is to live for! Where'd you get it? :D
Pretty sweet! So if I was connecting my XBSX to my Mac mini with the hdmi splitter I should be good to live stream correct?!? Would you recommend this AV Cap over something like the Elgato HD60 s+?!?
I contacted Avermedia regarding camera compatibility. Apparently my Canon M6 Mk2 who is able to output clean 10bit 4k 4:2:2 is only recorded as 1080p. I don't get it, why is even camera compatibility? This device should don't care about what gear is connected to, only the signal received. Anyone has test it and found that is true? I'm quite puzzled because the info in the official page is quite bad, I hope they are wrong.
So..., I got one. And yep, it can capture 3840x2160@29.97p I think one problem I had at first was that was set in pal at 25fps, didn't let me choose UHD resolution. In fact it didn't let me choose it in recentral until I used OBS first. Know I would like to see If 4k 25fps are possible and also what quality can I expect from this, It will be 10bit 4:2:2? I don't thinks so, anyway, what tools do you recommend to check for video quality information?
Good review, thanks! It is my understanding that you are using (or have used) a Lumix G7. Does this card work with the G7? It is not listed in the compatible device list and did not get a word back from avermedia just yet. I thought you might know. I am pretty close to buy it, but it would be nice to know if it works with my camera (G7) before I do :). Thanks again for the review!
So uhh, Adam when it comes to Android, Windows 10 and 11 HDMI output, would I need to get a hdcp splitter for the capture card? I still have it in my room unsure if I should buy a splitter.
i tried the camlink and footage doesnt look like camera footage AT ALL. this seems to be different, at least close to what the camera would look like if im shooting straight through it. do you feel the same? in that case i would get it.
Don't really see the use for streaming its overkill and wont be seen, recording yes tons of use cases. I'm already thinking about getting one or two. No need to record internally is always a plus to me. I'm probably gonna get one this next month with my upcoming shoots. I use an elgato HD60 sometimes to record my camera externally, also have a couple other capture cards / cam links but I like testing others. I have some off brand 4k capture card which has an input and output for passthrough. maybe I should compare the video quality on both.
It's not about it being seen, but it being compatible with what you're using. If you're playing at 1440p144, you need a capture card that supports that format, even if you're only streaming 720p60
I didn't get what you were saying about playing through the preview. Which application do you recommend to use if I'm planning to play my console through my laptop monitor?
I was going to buy the Elgato cam link in the next month so this has definitely given me food for thought. I can’t find this on the webs at the mo……or Amazon. Any idea on its release date mate?
Hi, I know you are not recommending playing over Preview, and if you would use other software, but since VirtualDub is not supported on Mac, what would you recommend instead of OBS?
I actually ended up testing a bunch of apps yesterday, and on Mac you can get the least latency and best quality on app called Quick Camera, the latency is barely noticeable. Your card reviews were really helpful, I watched literally all of them last week 😂Thanks!
Do you think my 720p 60fps PCI-E capture card (it's a timeleak HD72 or something like that) would outperform this in playing on my PC? I don't notice any lag using it, but I'm looking to up the quality of my recordings. Might need to go PCI-E since I don't have a TV to output it anyway.
OBS isn’t a capture program. It’s a layered compositing streaming/recording program. Everything is done on a buffer with dynamic frame times. VirtualDub JUST displays the feed and dumps it to disk, runs at lower latency
@@EposVox ha, yeah I found your video on it after making that comment. Thank you, I'm a noob, and just learning, I left a more detailed explanation as a comment on another video of yours, so let me try and ask this as simple as possible, if I'm not gaming, or anything else, just want to run my camera into my laptop for occasional streaming in 1080, is the extreme cap, that's now apparently much cheaper than when you reviewed it before, a better option than a cam link, or would I be better of paying the extra $30 for the live streamer cap in this video even though I don't need the 4k?
@@EposVox by the way, I've only learned as much so far to know that I would need a capture card, but knew next to nothing about them, until finding your channel. All I'd really heard mentioned before was the cam link, but I figured there had to be more to it than that. I've been watching a lot of your videos today. I really appreciate all that you do. I'm not sure I've really seen anyone else that explains things to someone as ignorant on the topic as myself, and has put in the extensive work that you have. Not that I have all that much more knowledge now, but were it not for you, I'd still be pretty lost. At least now I fell I have enough practical advice that I can at least have some ability to make a decision of what to buy, and how to get started. Thank you for that. I plan on watching more of your content.
Does this require a HDMI splitter? Can i for example connect it to directly to camera or Rasberry Pi, with no splitter / monitor, and capture it to PC? (On Linux).
@@EposVox thank you. It is so confusing. I just want to capture SBCs on a desktop or laptop, without needing extra display or hdmi switchers and splitter. I do have Elgato Cam link, and it is really wonky, need to force some resolutions, replug many times, and if I am lucky it will work. And when it works, picture quality is horrible.
@@EposVox I haven't yet gotten my ZV-E10 so technically I don't need this right now. I will in a couple of months though and I feel like this thing might be out of stock lol
Listening to your review the one question I had was “Does it work with Linux?” as I just don’t buy any hardware that is Windows only. Thanks for making Linux compatibilty part of your review. Very helpful 10/10.
Just picked up one of these because of this review. Thanks for the comprehensive video!
How is the latancy? Are you able to play in the obs window and feel any input lag?
An awesome review and video as per usual, Adam! 😆👍👍 As ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to go into such a high level of detail and thoroughness with your testing and overall conclusions. ☺👌
Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
I'm using this thing to play ps3 on my macbook and it's awesome. The latency is definetly there but i got used to it real quick, i'm using the official avermedia software for preview and i'm not noticing any latency fluctuation. This is probably the best bet for using a laptop as a display.
I've been waiting for this, thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Damn I'm so glad I've held myself and almost bought the Camlink 4k! Great content as always 🖤
I am just ready for the next evolution of these cards we need a 4K 144 Hz box and ideally it would be nice to see one that is compatible with HDR pass-through compatible tone mapping and possibly even allow us to use display port or HDMI 2.1. I know that this is a big ask but the technology is already available to utilize it we just need someone to develop it.
The tech isn't exactly "already available to utilize it" unfortunately. HDMI 2.1 chipsets are still super expensive and hard to get (especially with shortages), there's not even switches/splitters with it out in the world. And no one knows what to do with all the crazy features like VRR that really make no sense in a capture scenario, etc.
It'll be a while
Great review, VERY helpful, any idea about using that on M1 macs?
That latency is awesome! I need to replace my camlink 4k since it just overheats and freezes on me
May I just say... that video is looking crisp.
Hi, may I know if I can record 4K gameplay from my ps4 pro? Because I tried many other USB capture device but they dont let me really record 4K from the ps4 Pro becaues it outputs at 4k60hz, most card will just convert the 4k60hz to 1080p60, so what about this one? Thanks.
I tried to tell you, this thing kicks butt dude! 1440p hype!
Been using one of those $5 shamlinks and it's worked out so far, think I'll upgrade to this soon.
Big ups for Epos reminding everyone the importance of an HDMI splitter, get that other monitor running folks!!!
One thing I'd like to know is if this would work with a dreamcast VGA cable which is connected to a VGA to HDMI convertor.
my original elgato craps its pants and shows a black box.... so I'm unable to capture footage BUT passthrough still works.
Does this work in multiple apps simultaneously? That's my current issue with the Cam Link. Or other USB capture card that can do 4k30 to multiple apps you would suggest? From ElGato it looks like the only cards that support multi-app & 4k are PCIe. Thanks!
Awesome to see such a serious competitor with *that* low a latency and at such quality and price point. It's bonkers!
By the by, that shirt is to live for! Where'd you get it? :D
Pretty sweet! So if I was connecting my XBSX to my Mac mini with the hdmi splitter I should be good to live stream correct?!?
Would you recommend this AV Cap over something like the Elgato HD60 s+?!?
Is your room really that big or it’s the depth in the camera
I contacted Avermedia regarding camera compatibility. Apparently my Canon M6 Mk2 who is able to output clean 10bit 4k 4:2:2 is only recorded as 1080p. I don't get it, why is even camera compatibility? This device should don't care about what gear is connected to, only the signal received. Anyone has test it and found that is true? I'm quite puzzled because the info in the official page is quite bad, I hope they are wrong.
So..., I got one. And yep, it can capture 3840x2160@29.97p
I think one problem I had at first was that was set in pal at 25fps, didn't let me choose UHD resolution. In fact it didn't let me choose it in recentral until I used OBS first. Know I would like to see If 4k 25fps are possible and also what quality can I expect from this, It will be 10bit 4:2:2? I don't thinks so, anyway, what tools do you recommend to check for video quality information?
Good review, thanks! It is my understanding that you are using (or have used) a Lumix G7. Does this card work with the G7? It is not listed in the compatible device list and did not get a word back from avermedia just yet. I thought you might know. I am pretty close to buy it, but it would be nice to know if it works with my camera (G7) before I do :). Thanks again for the review!
It does!
@@EposVox Thanks! I have just ordered it.
Good video. Does it capture audio also for using Zoom, Obs, etc...
Yes
@@EposVox Do you think it is better than eglato camlink 4k or HD60 ? Thanks in advance.
@@terrygriffin5201 Yes.
I use an AVerMedia ER330, standalone capture. Very happy with it. Can livestream without even having a PC.
So uhh, Adam when it comes to Android, Windows 10 and 11 HDMI output, would I need to get a hdcp splitter for the capture card?
I still have it in my room unsure if I should buy a splitter.
i tried the camlink and footage doesnt look like camera footage AT ALL. this seems to be different, at least close to what the camera would look like if im shooting straight through it. do you feel the same? in that case i would get it.
What splitter would you recommend with this?
Don't really see the use for streaming its overkill and wont be seen, recording yes tons of use cases. I'm already thinking about getting one or two. No need to record internally is always a plus to me. I'm probably gonna get one this next month with my upcoming shoots. I use an elgato HD60 sometimes to record my camera externally, also have a couple other capture cards / cam links but I like testing others. I have some off brand 4k capture card which has an input and output for passthrough. maybe I should compare the video quality on both.
It's not about it being seen, but it being compatible with what you're using. If you're playing at 1440p144, you need a capture card that supports that format, even if you're only streaming 720p60
Does it take 4k/24? My other avermedia capture card takes 30fps but not 24
I didn't get what you were saying about playing through the preview. Which application do you recommend to use if I'm planning to play my console through my laptop monitor?
Does input mean you can see it on the computer at 1440p 144hz? But it just won’t let you record
Means you can clone or split 144hz signal to it to still play on gaming monitor but all capture software will see is 60
Which one is better ? Elgato camlink or avermedia ? For the video quality
hello, why you recommend using amerac or virtualdub instead? is there any difference with obs?
I'm 1000% buying this to replace my HD60S that I use with my Sony mirrorless camera... Bruh avermedia knows what's up
I use these at work for a variety of reasons.
Here's the question. Can it run 24/7 365. That's the question.
I was going to buy the Elgato cam link in the next month so this has definitely given me food for thought.
I can’t find this on the webs at the mo……or Amazon. Any idea on its release date mate?
It’s live on Amazon US already. Not sure when your neck of the woods will have it :(
@@EposVox I'll keep my eyes peeled thank you 🙏
I got one from Amazon USA in the end 👍
i have heard from a few people, that the elgato cam link gets super hot.
Garuda, very cool.
Is it possible connect four or more bu113 to capture 4k30 in OBS simultaneously in Mac studio or PC Platform?
hey, would you mind telling me if this works for ps5 / ps4pro if I want to record in 4K30 because the ps4 pro / ps5 outputs at 4k60hz
Hi, I know you are not recommending playing over Preview, and if you would use other software, but since VirtualDub is not supported on Mac, what would you recommend instead of OBS?
I would try QuickTime tbh
Thanks, I will give it a try. Just got the NZXT Signal 4k30 after watching your review :)
I actually ended up testing a bunch of apps yesterday, and on Mac you can get the least latency and best quality on app called Quick Camera, the latency is barely noticeable.
Your card reviews were really helpful, I watched literally all of them last week 😂Thanks!
Do you think my 720p 60fps PCI-E capture card (it's a timeleak HD72 or something like that) would outperform this in playing on my PC? I don't notice any lag using it, but I'm looking to up the quality of my recordings. Might need to go PCI-E since I don't have a TV to output it anyway.
Unlikely to be better, no. Usually the older and lower spec cards are much worse for latency due to not having a reason to optimize for it before
0:53 you could say... CamLike 👁️👄👁️
Ohshit yes
Wait VirtualDub for Better latency gaming from capture card? Explain!!
OBS isn’t a capture program. It’s a layered compositing streaming/recording program. Everything is done on a buffer with dynamic frame times. VirtualDub JUST displays the feed and dumps it to disk, runs at lower latency
What programs did Epos recommend at 4:25 for playing through the preview?
Amarec & Virtualdub
@@EposVox why use those applications? Any advantages?
Looks good 😊
Can't wait till 10, 20 and 40Gbit USB becomes a thing that gets used.
What about 120hz?
Answered in detail in the video
Cant find it anywhere.
Why no pass through though? Or does it mean new capture cards are around the corner? Any chances on HDMI 2.1 cards?
Because it’s a capture card designed for cameras
he answered as its basically taking your camera and making it a webcam.
My nvidia broadcast drops a million frames when using background blur and auto frame on an RTX3060Ti.
whats that windscreen? ty :D
Do you know anything about the extreme cap, that's the non 4k version. Is it the same quality minus the 4k, for someone that doesn't need 4k?
Yes! it's similar, but without any high refresh rate support. Review here: ruclips.net/video/xYSO43iuKP8/видео.html
@@EposVox ha, yeah I found your video on it after making that comment. Thank you, I'm a noob, and just learning, I left a more detailed explanation as a comment on another video of yours, so let me try and ask this as simple as possible, if I'm not gaming, or anything else, just want to run my camera into my laptop for occasional streaming in 1080, is the extreme cap, that's now apparently much cheaper than when you reviewed it before, a better option than a cam link, or would I be better of paying the extra $30 for the live streamer cap in this video even though I don't need the 4k?
@@EposVox by the way, I've only learned as much so far to know that I would need a capture card, but knew next to nothing about them, until finding your channel. All I'd really heard mentioned before was the cam link, but I figured there had to be more to it than that. I've been watching a lot of your videos today. I really appreciate all that you do. I'm not sure I've really seen anyone else that explains things to someone as ignorant on the topic as myself, and has put in the extensive work that you have. Not that I have all that much more knowledge now, but were it not for you, I'd still be pretty lost. At least now I fell I have enough practical advice that I can at least have some ability to make a decision of what to buy, and how to get started. Thank you for that. I plan on watching more of your content.
is this also freezing like elgato camlink?
No
hey guys so i dont really get it, can i use this capture card but instead of a camera connect it to my console for streaming throught my laptop ??
Yes, just get a hdmi splitter so you can still see your console on your monitor/TV
What about the EzRecorder 330 - ER330?? I wish someone could do a English tutorial of it
I actually had to import it but I will be covering it
So, could I use this in a 2 PC setup? Was just about to buy the Live Gamer ULTRA - GC553. Could this be a cheaper alternative?
Never mind, my bad it's just for cams. Doh
Please watch the video lmao your follow-up comment is not correct.
@@EposVox got it thanks, sorry total noob. Struggle to get to grips with all this tech.
To answer your question; yes it can be a cheaper alternative if you use display cloning or Obs projector preview
Does this require a HDMI splitter? Can i for example connect it to directly to camera or Rasberry Pi, with no splitter / monitor, and capture it to PC? (On Linux).
You only need a splitter for consoles or seeing your video on a separate Tv instead of the capture preview
@@EposVox thank you. It is so confusing. I just want to capture SBCs on a desktop or laptop, without needing extra display or hdmi switchers and splitter. I do have Elgato Cam link, and it is really wonky, need to force some resolutions, replug many times, and if I am lucky it will work. And when it works, picture quality is horrible.
Like for that "His name is Henry" lol
Is that a captnsugarspice t-shirt?
AVerMedia is straight killing it
what game is at 3:04?
Hades
I literally just bought a camlink 😭
Can you use this one with multiple apps at the same time? It is unbelievable how few capture cards can do that.
Nope you cannot. It requires custom drivers in windows so by being UVC you lose that capability
@@EposVox Right. I’ll just stick to my HD60S then. Thank you for the fast answer.
To this day I have no idea what these little cards do ;(
They capture hdmi video feeds to your computer for recording to streaming
did any1 else catch that forty reference
HENRY
Hello, may I know where to download the gradient wallpaper on your dual monitor behind you? 😀
Uh, it's one of the bundled wallpapers included with the Garuda Linux distribution, I'm not finding it hosted anywhere atm D:
@@EposVox Oh! Okay. Still, thanks for letting me know 😀
Hey Epos. How much is the delay on this capture card?
I'm using a elgato cam link to capture my game pc, but it has a slight delay on it.. any fixes?
Delay for my cam link is 233ms, so putting in a -233ms delay in OBS audio properties fixes it
✨👍
It's UVC compliant? HELL YEAH I just bought this without watching the rest of the video!
Is it just me or does this chap speak so fast because he's had way too much coffee?
I don’t drink any coffee and for every comment I get about going to fast I have an equal amount about going too slow. Can’t please everyone.
@@EposVox OK it must be my slow in-built translator to UK-English ;-)
kappa 4k
Kapp or NoKapp
*sigh*
Guess I'm buying another product I don't need yet...
But why
@@EposVox I haven't yet gotten my ZV-E10 so technically I don't need this right now. I will in a couple of months though and I feel like this thing might be out of stock lol
Ahhhh