Watching Dan Campbell's Lions play the Packers is like watching decades of repressed anger just released onto their tormentor. Literally can feel the spite from the Lions 😂
Oh I'm convinced Campbell motivated his men by just showing highlights of the Packers humiliating them over the years and finishing with: "It's the Packers. No mercy."
@@CrunchyCarot Nah. Lions beat the Packers 3 times in a row before Rogers left. We wanted Rogers to stay in GB with that big fat contract so the Packers would just age and wither away. As it is, they will improve over time.
As a Lions fan, i respect this guy. A superfan who isn't a whiner, tells it how it is, wants his team to take responsibility, respects his opponents and rivals
He’s a super fan, don’t forget that. Fan. People, on studio sets, in basements, at a desk, in a warehouse- they complain about players- remember when Tom was league MVP ? Remember when Tom won multiple Super Bowls ? Remember all of his Pro-Bowls ? Exactly so take people who have never been able to do what they criticize others for with a grain of salt. .... oh and the “we” like he’s a part of the team is hilarious
Dude, I am a cheesehead myself and I can't feel any negative feeling about the Lions and their fans. You endure(d) such a long time of awfulness and stay loyal and dedicated that if I have to see the Pack lose the throne of the North, it must be to you. But damn, Packers need to get better asap. lol
I'm Australian but went to college at U. Illinois with a legion of Bears fans. I guess you feel a lot they way they explained their lives to me. I just checked and noticed your last division title was 1993. As an Illini I empathise with the fact you are well overdue for something nice. I'm Niner fan so I can't wish too much for you at the moment, but I do hope you get something out of these years.
I'll admit, as a Lions fan, I got nervous when it got to 27-17. I had flashbacks to previous choked leads and was like "Please don't do this" and didn't feel relieved until the 3rd Montgomery TD. I appreciate the content Tom Grossi, and I respect the hell out of you. Can't wait for the rematch on Thanksgiving. Jamo will probably be waiting there for ya.
Me too! Very nervous - especially when the referees calls starting going against us. Hey refs, you do realize a quarter is only 15 minutes long, don’t you? But in the end this team is different and they pulled off a win.
I was there with you, too. We’re struggling with 3rd quarter right now. We’ve got some cleanup to do. Panthers are up next and it would good to see a strong second half to go along with the first.
That's how you know it's not the Same Old Lions. SOL would have lost this game. But SOL is gone. The Brand New Lions play for 60 minutes and win these games now. I'm chugging the Kool-Aid for sure.
@@Knickerson I think a lot of the third quarter "issues" is that the Lions have the last couple of weeks been trying to make the third quarter about "clock control," slowing down the game and burning up time. Which is fine when you've had the sort of leads that the Lions have had... it's never going to be particularly good to watch, especially when the drives don't appear to kill much clock. The Lions were able to spin things back up and get points when they needed it, which is normally the big worry when a team slows it down.
Loved this game for David Montgomery, dude never got to beat the Packers with the bears, comes over to the lions and absolutely goes off on em. Love to see it
Mad respect for Grossi... I'm 54 and been a die hard Lion's fan all my life... I got nervous in that 4th quarter tonight cause all the memories like Farve to Sterling Sharpe to beat us or Rodgers with no time left on the clock 0.00 to beat us... it all came flooding back to me, and I was like, oh no, here we go again. Mad respect for the Packers... GO LIONS! (Lionel) We're getting the JACKET! 😁
@@markanthony1004 I knew that shit was gonna happen for some reason I just am happy we got points, I can’t wait for J Love to get actual help on that line and from his coaching staff because he’s our franchise guy
The Packers had 12 total drives. The Lions had 12 total drives. The Lions had 15 minutes more in time of possession. Quay Walker’s post-game interview was very good. He accepted accountability for his penalty.
So much respect for Grossi and how he covers the league and these games. I'm a Lions fan and he's one of the first places I come to get coverage on the league. Think about that. It's a testament to A) how he goes about covering it and B) his honesty and humbleness while still being a huge fan of his team. It's just one game in the end and I think Love is good if the o-line can protect him. Appreciate you Tom.
Lions fan here. You are beloved by our fanbase. You put out good content with fair perspectives, thank you. I was a little surprised by our defense, especially some of the sacks being coverage sacks. Got consistent pressure, and also ran the ball consistently. We won the OL and DL battles and it showed. And even though he gave up a great penalty, Quay was a beast all game. Good luck and see you in Detroit
As a die-hard Lions fan of 40+ years, I started to get worried there when the Packers got the score to 27-17 but thankfully my Lions came through and won a big one for them and us fans! Can't wait for the next game. Side Note: Is it bad that I remember when Monte Clark was our Head Coach?
As a lifelong football fan of 30+ years, I honestly thought y'all would blow it and was happy to see they didn't. The Lions are looking pretty damn good with Dan Campbell at the helm.
@@producerevan88 I thought that we were going to choke it away as well. "Same ole Lions" - I was 20 the last time we won a playoff game. My Dad was a teenager when the Lions last won a championship. I think it's time to finally have faith the Lions.
@@rodneyadler9118 Yeah don't forget you guys beat the Chiefs so i think you guys are good 👍, but just don't have too much faith cause if things go bad, you'll end up like the poor bears fans right now(Don't mean that disrespectfully).
The Detroit lions joined the nfl in 1930. The Detroit lions have only made 18 playoff appearances and has 0 superbowl appearances in 92 years of disappointing misery. Mad respect for all those lions fans who passionately suport their team. Lions fans earned the right to be over joyed with this win, even if it is just a seasonal game.
Actually, the Detroit Lions have made the playoffs 17 times in their existence and won 4 championships. Their NFL championship years were 1935, 1952, 1953 & 1957 - pre-super bowl.
@@allanpeck8523 Yep. It's the Super Bowl Era where they stand alone, with nobody remotely close to their level of fail. Before that they were quite respectable, and downright fanatastic in the 50s.
Nah but you know who got 2? Jerry Jacob's. That's what's catching people unaware, yes Aiden Hutchinson and Brian Branch are standout names, but EVERY player has been making plays for the lions. When St. Brown wasn't making catches, LaPorta was. When Gibbs wasn't the guy, Montgomery was THE guy.
The last time the Detroit lions won a playoff game, I was a single month old. The pain us fans have felt is immeasurable. Gg's Grossi. Ps: thank you Quay Walker again
As a Packers fan, what hurt the most is that I was playing someone with Jordan Love (who went from 1 fantasy point in the first half to playing like an absolute fantasy god for the second half) in fantasy all while having Romeo Doubs on my bench.
Long time Lions fan, only recent watcher and subscriber here. You're the first Packers fan to ever make me feel bad for your team because you love this team for all the right reasons. Love your content and keep doing what you do Tom.
As a fan of neither team, I’m happy to see Detroit win. I’m not saying that Green Bay can’t win the division this year (they can get healthy and do have winnable contests coming up). But I feel like this is Detroit’s chance, and it’s time for them to run with it.
@@diddyfaplord Bruh people were saying that after the Packers were silenced by the Lions in Week 3 2014. I'm not foolish enough to count them out. Yet if I were a betting man I'd bet on Detroit to win the division (especially considering that they already have a head to head victory over Green Bay).
Packer fan here. Hats off to the Lions. They’ve had our number for a while now and they definitely came to play. I’m still extremely concerned with Barry as our D coordinator. MLF even said it’s the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over and that’s what we constantly see from Barry. I was hoping his streak of decent defense against the Lions would show through, but that definitely wasn’t the case. As far as MLF, I wonder how much the offense suffering is from him and how much is from Steno? I still think we have something in Love, though he has a lot to clean up. I love our young receivers, but we really have to figure out how to run and figure it out fast. This game is a perfect blueprint for other teams on how to get us down early.
I'm not even going to chirp, Tom. I went through it last night. The entire gamut of emotions. Soaring euphoria, cold-blooded schadenfreude, spine-tingling catharsis, followed by a third quarter filled with post-traumatic stress and near despair when it appeared like Brian Branch was going to be seriously hurt. When you root for a team that has been cursed for so long, you're always waiting for the booby trap to trigger as you're climbing the tower. "What is it this time that's going to bring the whole thing down?" "We're up 27-3 at the half - what horrible thing will happen that will make us fall victim to a Vikings vs. Colts-esque comeback?" When the ball was knelt for the final time, I was almost shocked into silence. Sure, I felt relief, and an odd sense of tranquility, but also confusion. It's still hard for me to believe that really happened. After so many years of surprise blowout losses on the heels of promising seasons, more years of mediocrity involving the Lions being good enough to beat the scrubs but never the contenders, and even more years of just flat-out bad football, the Lions are finally legit. Like, legit legit. The window has opened. I'm smelling fresh air. I now know what it must be like for someone serving 30+ years in prison to taste the prospect of freedom. That gate has not opened yet. We're not yet off the grounds. But with this win, the release order is signed. I feel like now it's only a matter of time.
I have no connection to Detroit, and I only consider myself a lions fan 3 hours a year (on Thanksgiving, right alongside "whoever is playing Dallas"), but I'm genuinely thrilled for that team. Way to go, Blue Kitties!
You're one of the very few Packers fans I can respect. I ALMOST felt bad for you making this video because its a feeling us life-long Lions fans are all too familiar with.
As a GB fan, this loss honestly doesn't bother me that much.. The Lions are a good, scrappy team with a good coach. Green Bay is very young and has much to learn.. with all of our injuries, and how we started I was pleasantly surprised to turn the tv on late-ish in the game, and see that we actually were IN the game. (Side note: I witnessed the week 18 game last year in person, and it was refreshing to see that Love wasn't avoiding throwing to a wide open Randall Cobb in the middle of the field ;) ) Lets take the lessons from today and let this stand as our low point. We can only go up from here.
in the game?? they was anywhere but in the game, They was at home eatinG left over little Cesar wondering why the fuck they had the shit's...............just no were close to being in the game,,,,,,,,,,,No way if i watched that game all Game long and ever would say they was in that game🙅♂️ regardless of the spread they never was gonna sniff a win in this game, they Got dominated in all facets of the game, hell i thank the lion's even probally took a halftime piss better then any Packers players!!
I for one am happy for the Lions. As a Packers fan we’ve had so many decades of success but the Lions have been so bad for SO LONG. I used to talk so much crap to Lions fans but it came to a point where it got sad with how bad they were. I’m glad the Lions have someone like Dan Campbell where he actually cares about these dudes and it’s showing on the field, those dudes are damn good and I hope them more success in the future, especially under Coach Campbell.
The Packers haven’t had a run defense in like 20 years. It’s not just coaching , it’s organizational philosophy and roster construction. There’s a reason the same teams (Chargers) are bad against the run every year. They go light and fast on the line and that means you’re gonna get bowled over against strong run games. Very impressed by Packers performance thus far, did not expect them to be anywhere this good. Love’s not getting enough talk on the sports channel.
I remember the first time in my life we won in Green Bay back in 2015. I was shaking so hard I couldn't text my sister to tell her we had won. Today? I felt really really confident all game long. Even when they brought it to within 10. This is a different team.
As a Bears fan, I saw a team (Lions) that was dominant and hungry. And since my team sucks again this year I say, go Lions! After all the years of pain, you deserve this.
Tom Grossi is hands down the best of what a football fan is and this is coming from a lions fan thank you for being a class act I watch you more than our lions content creators!
Only stumbled on to this channel about the last month or so of last season, but mad respect for how you hold your team accountable...and LOVE all the gear. Have no idea who you are, but you, CLEARLY, are some kind of Superfan in addition to your media role.
Tom, you are spot on! I texted the exact thoughts at halftime. As a Gold package season ticket holder for years, this was the worst first half I have ever seen. Screamed for the defense almost the entire game. My throat is sore. It was difficult to keep the energy after awful defense and completely ineffective offence. Still our team. A very teachable moment for the Pack. Hopefully they will learn and grow.
It's really crazy that as a Lions fan who has the rivalry with the Packers somewhere in his blood, you and your videos make me(us) develop a kind of sympathy for your arch-rival... maybe a kind of love-hate relationship. In any case, it is always nicer to play and win against a strong opponent than against an opponent who has more problems with himself than with anyone else. I hope you find your way and hopefully we'll see each other again later when we're both on the road to success! Have a great day Packers Nation, the good days will come again.
Tom I want to personally thank you for calling out that beer spilling bullshit that happened in the middle of the game, I’ve seen nobody else call it out and it really makes me frustrated how everyone acts at games now. Losing doesn’t justify poor actions.
The fact that your comment section is filled with Lions fans singing your praises is a testament to how awesome your commentary is. No nonsense, no excuses. Very refreshing. You just earned this Lions fan's sub.
It's amazing that they kept Joe Barry on the staff this offseason and i have to think that they will move on next offseason. After all the draft picks on that side of the ball you just expect better and it seems so often that they aren't prepared for the key points. I think the offense is pretty exciting, we will just have to be patient.
The lack of physicality we play with is something that drives me nuts. It seems like every time we make a tackle the runner is carrying someone for an extra couple yards after first contact. This is a reoccurring issue that has plagued us for so long. Not only is it extra yards for the offense but it's a mental win for them as well. Watching how the Saints tackled last week left a lot to be desired for the Packers defense. We just seem like we're a flat team that is lacking any juice right now and it's been that way for awhile now.
And, as a Bears fan, I love that Packers fans have this false hope Bears fans keep going through. They deserve every ounce of pain this up and down 7-10 brings them
@@thesouthernbearsfanPackers fans have been annoying as hell, believing Jordan Love is their answer. Jordan Love is trash. The Packers will be lucky to be 7-10 but their fans have this false hope they're some great team 🤷♂️ Solid defense, trash QB, great coaches.... just good enough to not get a high draft pick. I love it
I think this was a game that set the future of both teams, one team is going to have its turn taking over the division after countless years of being left in the cellar, and the other team is going to have to face the fact that they're no longer contenders, and will need to adapt and develop slowly into something new. I think the people saying "cut Quay, bench Jordan, fire this and that" are going too extreme, and like you said, this team needs to learn what is positive and negative, and to build on that. It's a new era in the NFC North
Thanks for being a good sport after a tough loss. Hope we lions fans aren't being sore winners. Really enjoy your content! You're a very hard worker and it is really appreciated.
This show reminded me of almost every Lions postgame show I grew up watching for decades. I feel like either I’m dreaming or Hell now has a brisk chill that hardens nipples.
Props for being able to call out the Packers (in all aspects) of where they needed to be called out. Still hoping for a great Packers season and interested on what they do moving forward. Insightful video Tom and GPG!
I appreciate the honest assessment of the game and of the GB team. From afar, in his time as HC I have seen LeFluer as a really good offensive coach, Rodgers or not. Defensively, it seems he doesn't seem to pay as much attention, maybe leaving it to others too much or something. It is a LeFluer historical problem the way teams run on the Packers. It's getting to a point where one has to assume it's a LeFluer coaching philosophy problem more than anything else. GB hasn't been a "knock the snot out of you" team for quite some time and now they got one in their division. What to do?
I was finally able to go back to Green Bay from across the country since 2007 and this was the game I came to see. Great atmosphere met some fun fans but I really wish that game would have been more competitive to watch in person. Kind of a bummer.
Regardless of how the Vikings and Bears games go this weekend, I cannot wait to see your NFC North Reaction to week 4 video! (Still luv ya Tom, keep your chin up)
On behalf of the Packers I have to say The Lions look like a dominate team in the NFL and most teams who play them are going to look like the Packers did last night. The Lions are just brutal. If they stay healthy they are headed in the direction of The NFC Championship Game.
You're definitely right about the Lions being a dominant force in the NFL, but I hope you're right about the packers just playing a good football team.
You are as always, funny as hell, but you truly have a knack for really in depth commentary. While I celebrated tonight I felt kind of bad for you because of the obvious gut punch you showed. What you are feeling, we Lions Fans have had for decades. Refball even happened again. Hope y'all get it together so future games can be more fun. PS, Joe Barry, wow. Y'all need to start somewhere, and that's a good place to start the change.
It's been a while since the Lions were favourites in this matchup I reckon, and they played like it. Lions teams of the past might have faltered when the Packers gave it a try in the third quarter, but not these days. As for the Packers: you cannot expect to hang with a really good team with only one decent quarter and three bad ones. Injuries are a factor for sure, but that alone cannot explain the amount of mistakes and poor play. The Packers can do better and I hope they will. The Lions on the other hand are just a joy to watch right now and it's great to see them be good at last.
As a lifetime Lions fan, this felt so amazing to watch. I couldn't believe how big a smackdown we laid on the Packers tonight. I have never felt or seen such confidence in all my life for this team until this year, and see Dan Campbell not just talk about changing the team, but backing it up and walking the talk. I can't wait to see how far he can take this team going forward, it's truly a miracle to see what he's accomplished with this group in such a short time. Can't wait to face you guys again on Thanksgiving Day, I imagine it'll be closer than this.
It will definitely be closer. This Packers team is banged up and inexperienced but that doesn't take away from what the Lions did. Great game for them.
@@mikebradt8080they are 1 game ahead of the packers and would be 2-2 also if jones and kelce played week 1, the cardinals beat the cowboys, does that mean the cards will make the playoffs and the cowboys wont???
Week after week, saying Aaron jones needs to get the ball and the run defense needs to improve. It's been like this for so long and it's tiring. JLo is playing good for the position he is in and it's exciting to see. Quay played good and doesn't deserve the hate he is getting for a single mistake. Hopefully with 11 days till the next game and a bye after that everyone will be at least mostly healthy
This game was my first time at lambeau. Drove 13 hours for the experience. That first half was laughably bad. But you know what, I still had such a good time being there and it was a wonderful experience to be at such a historic venue to watch my favorite team play 💚💛
Yeah I kind of expected this result. I have a big problem with the coaching since the atlanta game. Not only the Defense is not good but also the Offense is disappointing...
The Detroit Lions are one of the best teams in the league and this Packers fan would love to see them win the Super Bowl, given their decades of suffering. Having said that, I cannot figure out why my fellow Packers fans thought the Packers would be any different than what we witnessed. WE ARE REBUILDING! Relax. It's going to be a 8-9 season.
The general sentiment these days where players and staff have to be flawless or people call for heads is crazy. Rodgers started 6-10. Give Love a chance. And I swear I’m over Bears fans trying to close the book on Love when they spent 3 years talking up fields.
Bud, you guys pulled together a lot better in the 3rd quarter though. I was screaming at Ben Johnson to figure out that you can throw on first and second down. I know the Lions were trying to milk the clock, but it was costing us with very long third downs where we were still throwing to a receiver 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. The Pack O line just ran out of gas with Hutch jumping in and out of gaps and Buggs decided to have the game of his life tonight. Same with the Defense, 40 rushing attempts between Gibbs and Montgomery and most of the rushing straight into the interior of the line. Lionel does finally get to wear the suit, but there's a lot of season left for the Pack to find their identity and Thanksgiving isn't very far away. Always a pleasure to watch your channel bud
Dudes as a lions fan I can generally say I’ve never been more proud of this team this year! Yeah we fell short to Hawks but Dangg boys we are looking scary 😳🙏🏽
I'm a Seahawks fan and feel very very very fortunate that we got that win. Very easy could have gone the other way. I'm cheering for the Lions up until a playoff rematch with the Seahawks (which we both know would be the most fun game of the week)
I knew this fanbase wouldn't react well to this season. We are in a rebuild, this is what those look and feel like. I've never really been through one but my whole family is Vikings fans and they go through it 2-3 times a decade. So we shift out of "win now" mode into rebuild mentality, this means instead of freaking about every loss and demanding every player get benched or cut, you rejoice over the wins we do manage to get and deal with what problems we have now with eye towards fixing those things in the future, as in next season, not this season. Edit: oh yeah Barry's gotta go. Our defense is supposed to be about set as the offense needs more resources now, we really can't afford to pour even more into it after a decade of giving the bulk of the attention. So Barry's gotta go.
As a Browns fan I’m so happy for Detroit… they deserve a great year… the Browns deserve a great year… I’m tired of great teams staying great and the “laughing stock teams” always remaining the butt of jokes.
I will say that Packers Fans sre the coolest fans to tailgate with. In the Barry Sanders days i lived 3 miles from the Pontiac Silverdome and saw the Pack once a year. Tickets weren't hard to come by in the 80,000 seat dome. Many great, good natured, pre game brat parties with you guys!
Recently, it feels like we are to the Lions what the Bears are to us. We beat the Bears 38-20 then lost to the Lions 34-20 in almost the exact same way with garbage time points.
Thursday night's win and the win back in January felt like an exorcism of decades of demons being expelled. Thanks for giving the Lions their Props. Much Respect to you.
Let’s see how they respond to being embarrassed like this next Monday night. A mark of good coaching is rallying your team to respond after something like this. I think if we keep looking like how we have in the past two weeks, especially in the first half, then Matt’s seat gets hotter and hotter. This was a huge game and I feel like the past few years big games have just not gone our way and I think coaching has a lot do with that.
Lions fan for 28 years but I think Green Bay has a chance to still have a decent season. GB is 2-2 and plenty of season left. See you at ford field on thanksgiving
Last week and this week the Packers have really seemed like a second half team. I think if they can figure out how to tighten up the offense and gain momentum earlier in the game they’ll improve greatly
Watching Dan Campbell's Lions play the Packers is like watching decades of repressed anger just released onto their tormentor. Literally can feel the spite from the Lions 😂
Oh I'm convinced Campbell motivated his men by just showing highlights of the Packers humiliating them over the years and finishing with: "It's the Packers. No mercy."
@@JamesTobiasStewartthis is now canon in my mind
You sure got that right!
It was such an amazing time when Brady left new England and my bills ripped them a new one. Especially that perfect game in the wild card round.
@@CrunchyCarot Nah. Lions beat the Packers 3 times in a row before Rogers left. We wanted Rogers to stay in GB with that big fat contract so the Packers would just age and wither away. As it is, they will improve over time.
As a Lions fan, i respect this guy. A superfan who isn't a whiner, tells it how it is, wants his team to take responsibility, respects his opponents and rivals
Tom is a goat Fr
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He’s a super fan, don’t forget that. Fan. People, on studio sets, in basements, at a desk, in a warehouse- they complain about players- remember when Tom was league MVP ? Remember when Tom won multiple Super Bowls ? Remember all of his Pro-Bowls ? Exactly so take people who have never been able to do what they criticize others for with a grain of salt. .... oh and the “we” like he’s a part of the team is hilarious
@@ellwoodwolfok and? I don’t see the point in commenting this
@@ellwoodwolfyou're fun
Welcome to how us lions fans have felt for the last 20 years lol
you meant 75 years
blowouts happen and the better team won🤷🏾♂️ no excuses
U mean 35 years lol
More like 60+ years
Enjoy. No franchise deserves it more
“He didn’t push a trainer” is an amazing positive for Quay Walker.
As a Lions fan it felt good after all the pain the Packers have bestowed upon us my entire life.
Can't wait for the lore!
-A Bears Fan
hope u guys can make it to the super bowl someday
Dude, I am a cheesehead myself and I can't feel any negative feeling about the Lions and their fans. You endure(d) such a long time of awfulness and stay loyal and dedicated that if I have to see the Pack lose the throne of the North, it must be to you.
But damn, Packers need to get better asap. lol
Honestly im glad the lions are taking the crown over the vikings or bears
I'm Australian but went to college at U. Illinois with a legion of Bears fans.
I guess you feel a lot they way they explained their lives to me. I just checked and noticed your last division title was 1993. As an Illini I empathise with the fact you are well overdue for something nice.
I'm Niner fan so I can't wish too much for you at the moment, but I do hope you get something out of these years.
I just wanna say thank you Grossi for being a good sport. You have my greatest respect.
I'll admit, as a Lions fan, I got nervous when it got to 27-17. I had flashbacks to previous choked leads and was like "Please don't do this" and didn't feel relieved until the 3rd Montgomery TD. I appreciate the content Tom Grossi, and I respect the hell out of you. Can't wait for the rematch on Thanksgiving. Jamo will probably be waiting there for ya.
Me too! Very nervous - especially when the referees calls starting going against us. Hey refs, you do realize a quarter is only 15 minutes long, don’t you? But in the end this team is different and they pulled off a win.
I was there with you, too. We’re struggling with 3rd quarter right now. We’ve got some cleanup to do. Panthers are up next and it would good to see a strong second half to go along with the first.
Word!
That's how you know it's not the Same Old Lions. SOL would have lost this game. But SOL is gone. The Brand New Lions play for 60 minutes and win these games now. I'm chugging the Kool-Aid for sure.
@@Knickerson I think a lot of the third quarter "issues" is that the Lions have the last couple of weeks been trying to make the third quarter about "clock control," slowing down the game and burning up time. Which is fine when you've had the sort of leads that the Lions have had... it's never going to be particularly good to watch, especially when the drives don't appear to kill much clock. The Lions were able to spin things back up and get points when they needed it, which is normally the big worry when a team slows it down.
Loved this game for David Montgomery, dude never got to beat the Packers with the bears, comes over to the lions and absolutely goes off on em. Love to see it
Yeah I was happy to see that too. The Bears are notorious for destroying/oppressing great players. They go somewhere else and shine
@@oldmanhendo7183It's the curse of the McCaskeys 🌩️
Mad respect for Grossi... I'm 54 and been a die hard Lion's fan all my life... I got nervous in that 4th quarter tonight cause all the memories like Farve to Sterling Sharpe to beat us or Rodgers with no time left on the clock 0.00 to beat us... it all came flooding back to me, and I was like, oh no, here we go again. Mad respect for the Packers... GO LIONS! (Lionel) We're getting the JACKET! 😁
Lions PTSD is a real thing.
dude as a Bears fan - that second half had me NERVOUS.
W Fan
Even as a Packers fan I was thinking “Was the first half a fluke for Detroit?”
No, no it wasn’t lol
@@markanthony1004 I knew that shit was gonna happen for some reason I just am happy we got points, I can’t wait for J Love to get actual help on that line and from his coaching staff because he’s our franchise guy
The Packers had 12 total drives. The Lions had 12 total drives. The Lions had 15 minutes more in time of possession.
Quay Walker’s post-game interview was very good. He accepted accountability for his penalty.
Tom, you're a machine! I applaud your manic work ethic! And as a Lions fan, I can't wait to see Lionel get the suit!! 😂😂😂
I think after this Vince has to give Lionel the suit in person, not just tell Ref to do it. With a shot of whiskey, too.
This week... the Lionel and Vince interaction should be pure gold for us Lions fans.
The skits this year are beyond amazing. I've shown a few people and they don't get it. Tom is the fucking man.
Lionel should come floating in on *cloud nine* in the next episode!
Hahaa, I had the exact same thought.
I feel like I just got a "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" speech from my dad.
Tom... As a lifelong Lions fan I want you to know one thing...
There is one more spot on this wagon reserved just for you.
Yours Truly,
Lionel
So much respect for Grossi and how he covers the league and these games. I'm a Lions fan and he's one of the first places I come to get coverage on the league. Think about that. It's a testament to A) how he goes about covering it and B) his honesty and humbleness while still being a huge fan of his team. It's just one game in the end and I think Love is good if the o-line can protect him. Appreciate you Tom.
Lions fan here. You are beloved by our fanbase. You put out good content with fair perspectives, thank you. I was a little surprised by our defense, especially some of the sacks being coverage sacks. Got consistent pressure, and also ran the ball consistently. We won the OL and DL battles and it showed. And even though he gave up a great penalty, Quay was a beast all game. Good luck and see you in Detroit
Tom mad respect from the Lions fan base man. I see the frustration you feel and It reminds me of everything we felt for so many years.
The suit fits, Lionel!
As a Bills fan who has had to endure the Patriots for years, I feel your pain. But the Lions have waited forever for this, and it's good to see.
I adopted the Bills as my #2 (Lions have been my #1 my whole life) because my boyfriend is a diehard Buffalo fan. Loved seeing them beat Miami!!!!
Me too!@@jordan4862
As a die-hard Lions fan of 40+ years, I started to get worried there when the Packers got the score to 27-17 but thankfully my Lions came through and won a big one for them and us fans! Can't wait for the next game. Side Note: Is it bad that I remember when Monte Clark was our Head Coach?
As a lifelong football fan of 30+ years, I honestly thought y'all would blow it and was happy to see they didn't. The Lions are looking pretty damn good with Dan Campbell at the helm.
@@producerevan88 I thought that we were going to choke it away as well. "Same ole Lions" - I was 20 the last time we won a playoff game. My Dad was a teenager when the Lions last won a championship. I think it's time to finally have faith the Lions.
@@rodneyadler9118 Yeah don't forget you guys beat the Chiefs so i think you guys are good 👍, but just don't have too much faith cause if things go bad, you'll end up like the poor bears fans right now(Don't mean that disrespectfully).
😂 how about Darrell Rodgers, or Chuck Schmidt. The great Chuck Schmidt I might add.
I remember Monte.
The Detroit lions joined the nfl in 1930. The Detroit lions have only made 18 playoff appearances and has 0 superbowl appearances in 92 years of disappointing misery.
Mad respect for all those lions fans who passionately suport their team. Lions fans earned the right to be over joyed with this win, even if it is just a seasonal game.
Actually, the Detroit Lions have made the playoffs 17 times in their existence and won 4 championships. Their NFL championship years were 1935, 1952, 1953 & 1957 - pre-super bowl.
@@allanpeck8523 Yep. It's the Super Bowl Era where they stand alone, with nobody remotely close to their level of fail. Before that they were quite respectable, and downright fanatastic in the 50s.
At least Brian Branch didn’t get an interception
Nah but you know who got 2? Jerry Jacob's. That's what's catching people unaware, yes Aiden Hutchinson and Brian Branch are standout names, but EVERY player has been making plays for the lions. When St. Brown wasn't making catches, LaPorta was. When Gibbs wasn't the guy, Montgomery was THE guy.
There was a point where it showed the yardage and it was 199-1. Which was a crazy coincidence for that to happen twice in one season.
The last time the Detroit lions won a playoff game, I was a single month old. The pain us fans have felt is immeasurable. Gg's Grossi.
Ps: thank you Quay Walker again
I was 10 DAYS old the last time they won a playoff game. They deserve to win one soon. If they keep it up, they MIGHT win their first super bowl.
I bet you both cried so hard the last time they won a playoff game.
Y'all making me feel old I was a hole 6 months old last time the lions won a playoff game
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444its f'n criminal that this comment doesn't have more likes
That is brutal. Never realized they were that bad. 😂
“This was a team effort in sucking.” What a great quote!
Well at least it's to the Lions, if anyone's deserving to lead the North it's definitely them. Congrats Lions you deserve to go far this year.
Facts I think I would need to go into therapy if we let the Bears win
Yah honestly how I feel.
As a Packers fan, what hurt the most is that I was playing someone with Jordan Love (who went from 1 fantasy point in the first half to playing like an absolute fantasy god for the second half) in fantasy all while having Romeo Doubs on my bench.
Long time Lions fan, only recent watcher and subscriber here. You're the first Packers fan to ever make me feel bad for your team because you love this team for all the right reasons. Love your content and keep doing what you do Tom.
Great comment. If any Packers fan deserves sympathy, it's Tom Grossi. This man is as loyal as they come.
You're a real one Tom, work like a mad man to put out both comedic skits and well thought out breakdowns. Tip of the hat to you sir.
As a fan of neither team, I’m happy to see Detroit win. I’m not saying that Green Bay can’t win the division this year (they can get healthy and do have winnable contests coming up). But I feel like this is Detroit’s chance, and it’s time for them to run with it.
I honestly believe the Lions will win the division as long as they stay consistent, they just beat us (The Packers) and the other 2 are 0-3 so yeah
GB doesn’t have a chance lol
@@diddyfaplord Bruh people were saying that after the Packers were silenced by the Lions in Week 3 2014. I'm not foolish enough to count them out. Yet if I were a betting man I'd bet on Detroit to win the division (especially considering that they already have a head to head victory over Green Bay).
@@diddyfaplordsays a casual hater
@@FlungFluPanda I’m not a casual, you’re a bum in denial. Have fun with Copium buddy
Packer fan here. Hats off to the Lions. They’ve had our number for a while now and they definitely came to play.
I’m still extremely concerned with Barry as our D coordinator. MLF even said it’s the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over and that’s what we constantly see from Barry. I was hoping his streak of decent defense against the Lions would show through, but that definitely wasn’t the case.
As far as MLF, I wonder how much the offense suffering is from him and how much is from Steno? I still think we have something in Love, though he has a lot to clean up. I love our young receivers, but we really have to figure out how to run and figure it out fast. This game is a perfect blueprint for other teams on how to get us down early.
Thank you David bachtiari for 5-6 wonderful games over the last 3 years
I'm not even going to chirp, Tom. I went through it last night. The entire gamut of emotions. Soaring euphoria, cold-blooded schadenfreude, spine-tingling catharsis, followed by a third quarter filled with post-traumatic stress and near despair when it appeared like Brian Branch was going to be seriously hurt. When you root for a team that has been cursed for so long, you're always waiting for the booby trap to trigger as you're climbing the tower. "What is it this time that's going to bring the whole thing down?" "We're up 27-3 at the half - what horrible thing will happen that will make us fall victim to a Vikings vs. Colts-esque comeback?" When the ball was knelt for the final time, I was almost shocked into silence. Sure, I felt relief, and an odd sense of tranquility, but also confusion. It's still hard for me to believe that really happened. After so many years of surprise blowout losses on the heels of promising seasons, more years of mediocrity involving the Lions being good enough to beat the scrubs but never the contenders, and even more years of just flat-out bad football, the Lions are finally legit. Like, legit legit. The window has opened. I'm smelling fresh air. I now know what it must be like for someone serving 30+ years in prison to taste the prospect of freedom.
That gate has not opened yet. We're not yet off the grounds. But with this win, the release order is signed. I feel like now it's only a matter of time.
I have no connection to Detroit, and I only consider myself a lions fan 3 hours a year (on Thanksgiving, right alongside "whoever is playing Dallas"), but I'm genuinely thrilled for that team. Way to go, Blue Kitties!
You're one of the very few Packers fans I can respect. I ALMOST felt bad for you making this video because its a feeling us life-long Lions fans are all too familiar with.
As a GB fan, this loss honestly doesn't bother me that much.. The Lions are a good, scrappy team with a good coach. Green Bay is very young and has much to learn.. with all of our injuries, and how we started I was pleasantly surprised to turn the tv on late-ish in the game, and see that we actually were IN the game. (Side note: I witnessed the week 18 game last year in person, and it was refreshing to see that Love wasn't avoiding throwing to a wide open Randall Cobb in the middle of the field ;) ) Lets take the lessons from today and let this stand as our low point. We can only go up from here.
in the game?? they was anywhere but in the game, They was at home eatinG left over little Cesar wondering why the fuck they had the shit's...............just no were close to being in the game,,,,,,,,,,,No way if i watched that game all Game long and ever would say they was in that game🙅♂️ regardless of the spread they never was gonna sniff a win in this game, they Got dominated in all facets of the game, hell i thank the lion's even probally took a halftime piss better then any Packers players!!
@@trosper4676 believe it or not, being within 10 pts, with the ball moving down the field is called 'in the game'
Admittedly, you DO play the Bears again. You could lose to them. THAT would be a REAL low point.
@@jackmcjelly8858refs did help keep you in it
Detroit is younger than gb tho
I for one am happy for the Lions. As a Packers fan we’ve had so many decades of success but the Lions have been so bad for SO LONG. I used to talk so much crap to Lions fans but it came to a point where it got sad with how bad they were. I’m glad the Lions have someone like Dan Campbell where he actually cares about these dudes and it’s showing on the field, those dudes are damn good and I hope them more success in the future, especially under Coach Campbell.
The NFC North Reaction to Week 4 is gonna be WILD
The Packers haven’t had a run defense in like 20 years. It’s not just coaching , it’s organizational philosophy and roster construction. There’s a reason the same teams (Chargers) are bad against the run every year. They go light and fast on the line and that means you’re gonna get bowled over against strong run games. Very impressed by Packers performance thus far, did not expect them to be anywhere this good. Love’s not getting enough talk on the sports channel.
They haven’t played anyone.
Love's quarterback rating was in the 60's the past two games.
@@glenbard657 Judging a player’s performance by qbr instead of watching the film is a smart thing to do. 🤷♀️
I remember the first time in my life we won in Green Bay back in 2015. I was shaking so hard I couldn't text my sister to tell her we had won. Today? I felt really really confident all game long. Even when they brought it to within 10. This is a different team.
As a Bears fan, I saw a team (Lions) that was dominant and hungry. And since my team sucks again this year I say, go Lions! After all the years of pain, you deserve this.
now on fields hopefully hes benched for his own safety
Tom Grossi is hands down the best of what a football fan is and this is coming from a lions fan thank you for being a class act I watch you more than our lions content creators!
Only stumbled on to this channel about the last month or so of last season, but mad respect for how you hold your team accountable...and LOVE all the gear. Have no idea who you are, but you, CLEARLY, are some kind of Superfan in addition to your media role.
It's times like this that I wish I wasn't such a passionate fan.....that was rough
Tom, you are spot on! I texted the exact thoughts at halftime. As a Gold package season ticket holder for years, this was the worst first half I have ever seen. Screamed for the defense almost the entire game. My throat is sore. It was difficult to keep the energy after awful defense and completely ineffective offence. Still our team. A very teachable moment for the Pack. Hopefully they will learn and grow.
It's really crazy that as a Lions fan who has the rivalry with the Packers somewhere in his blood,
you and your videos make me(us) develop a kind of sympathy for your arch-rival... maybe a kind of love-hate relationship.
In any case, it is always nicer to play and win against a strong opponent than against an opponent who has more problems with himself than with anyone else.
I hope you find your way and hopefully we'll see each other again later when we're both on the road to success!
Have a great day Packers Nation, the good days will come again.
Tom I want to personally thank you for calling out that beer spilling bullshit that happened in the middle of the game, I’ve seen nobody else call it out and it really makes me frustrated how everyone acts at games now. Losing doesn’t justify poor actions.
As a Falcons fan, I felt all of this lol
I think it made our lose look better. Now we need to beat the jags.
@@MrBruttomessoI don’t see why y’all can’t beat the Jags. Wtf is going on with them? Anyway good luck
@@MrBruttomessoI think you guys got this
I want this sent to Matt Lafleur, and have his live reaction be recorded.
What a speech! No filters applied, just brutal honesty. I love it.
"There's a rant coming. I can feel it in my bones." That is how I felt watching my Brownies lose to the Steelers.
The fact that your comment section is filled with Lions fans singing your praises is a testament to how awesome your commentary is. No nonsense, no excuses. Very refreshing. You just earned this Lions fan's sub.
It's amazing that they kept Joe Barry on the staff this offseason and i have to think that they will move on next offseason. After all the draft picks on that side of the ball you just expect better and it seems so often that they aren't prepared for the key points. I think the offense is pretty exciting, we will just have to be patient.
The lack of physicality we play with is something that drives me nuts. It seems like every time we make a tackle the runner is carrying someone for an extra couple yards after first contact. This is a reoccurring issue that has plagued us for so long. Not only is it extra yards for the offense but it's a mental win for them as well. Watching how the Saints tackled last week left a lot to be desired for the Packers defense. We just seem like we're a flat team that is lacking any juice right now and it's been that way for awhile now.
As a bears fan
I’m happy for the lions fans
I love yall this has been well earned
And, as a Bears fan, I love that Packers fans have this false hope Bears fans keep going through. They deserve every ounce of pain this up and down 7-10 brings them
@@Beardownsports wait wha
@@thesouthernbearsfanPackers fans have been annoying as hell, believing Jordan Love is their answer.
Jordan Love is trash.
The Packers will be lucky to be 7-10 but their fans have this false hope they're some great team 🤷♂️
Solid defense, trash QB, great coaches.... just good enough to not get a high draft pick. I love it
@@Beardownsports lol same
@@Beardownsportsjust stop being bias there is nothing that makes Jordan love trash and you cannot be talking with your poverty qb
I think this was a game that set the future of both teams, one team is going to have its turn taking over the division after countless years of being left in the cellar, and the other team is going to have to face the fact that they're no longer contenders, and will need to adapt and develop slowly into something new. I think the people saying "cut Quay, bench Jordan, fire this and that" are going too extreme, and like you said, this team needs to learn what is positive and negative, and to build on that. It's a new era in the NFC North
Thanks for being a good sport after a tough loss. Hope we lions fans aren't being sore winners. Really enjoy your content! You're a very hard worker and it is really appreciated.
This show reminded me of almost every Lions postgame show I grew up watching for decades. I feel like either I’m dreaming or Hell now has a brisk chill that hardens nipples.
Props for being able to call out the Packers (in all aspects) of where they needed to be called out. Still hoping for a great Packers season and interested on what they do moving forward.
Insightful video Tom and GPG!
I appreciate the honest assessment of the game and of the GB team. From afar, in his time as HC I have seen LeFluer as a really good offensive coach, Rodgers or not. Defensively, it seems he doesn't seem to pay as much attention, maybe leaving it to others too much or something. It is a LeFluer historical problem the way teams run on the Packers. It's getting to a point where one has to assume it's a LeFluer coaching philosophy problem more than anything else. GB hasn't been a "knock the snot out of you" team for quite some time and now they got one in their division. What to do?
I can't wait for the next NFC North episode. Some redemption for the Lions and Lionel.
Just imagine how the episode would go if the Vikings in the Bears win.
Campbell is a great coach and gets his players pumped up. Green Bay needs a guy like that.
I was finally able to go back to Green Bay from across the country since 2007 and this was the game I came to see. Great atmosphere met some fun fans but I really wish that game would have been more competitive to watch in person. Kind of a bummer.
Regardless of how the Vikings and Bears games go this weekend, I cannot wait to see your NFC North Reaction to week 4 video! (Still luv ya Tom, keep your chin up)
Lions fan here. Mad respect for being a real one and not whining and making excuses. We sucked for so long i'm glad we can have this 😂
i had a joy tear just from that intro... thanks tom
On behalf of the Packers I have to say The Lions look like a dominate team in the NFL and most teams who play them are going to look like the Packers did last night. The Lions are just brutal. If they stay healthy they are headed in the direction of The NFC Championship Game.
You're definitely right about the Lions being a dominant force in the NFL, but I hope you're right about the packers just playing a good football team.
We want a Superbowl
You are as always, funny as hell, but you truly have a knack for really in depth commentary. While I celebrated tonight I felt kind of bad for you because of the obvious gut punch you showed. What you are feeling, we Lions Fans have had for decades. Refball even happened again. Hope y'all get it together so future games can be more fun. PS, Joe Barry, wow. Y'all need to start somewhere, and that's a good place to start the change.
As a Lions fan, I never miss your stuff. I appreciate your takes. Keep it going
Facts
For what if you’re a “LIONS” fan…
It's been a while since the Lions were favourites in this matchup I reckon, and they played like it. Lions teams of the past might have faltered when the Packers gave it a try in the third quarter, but not these days. As for the Packers: you cannot expect to hang with a really good team with only one decent quarter and three bad ones. Injuries are a factor for sure, but that alone cannot explain the amount of mistakes and poor play. The Packers can do better and I hope they will. The Lions on the other hand are just a joy to watch right now and it's great to see them be good at last.
As a lifetime Lions fan, this felt so amazing to watch. I couldn't believe how big a smackdown we laid on the Packers tonight. I have never felt or seen such confidence in all my life for this team until this year, and see Dan Campbell not just talk about changing the team, but backing it up and walking the talk. I can't wait to see how far he can take this team going forward, it's truly a miracle to see what he's accomplished with this group in such a short time. Can't wait to face you guys again on Thanksgiving Day, I imagine it'll be closer than this.
It will definitely be closer. This Packers team is banged up and inexperienced but that doesn't take away from what the Lions did. Great game for them.
Nah, by the time thanksgiving comes round the lions will be looking to clinch the division.
@@mikebradt8080they are 1 game ahead of the packers and would be 2-2 also if jones and kelce played week 1, the cardinals beat the cowboys, does that mean the cards will make the playoffs and the cowboys wont???
Thank you David Montgomery for coming to run that ball! 🙌
I always appreciate Tom's honesty in vids like this.
Week after week, saying Aaron jones needs to get the ball and the run defense needs to improve. It's been like this for so long and it's tiring. JLo is playing good for the position he is in and it's exciting to see. Quay played good and doesn't deserve the hate he is getting for a single mistake. Hopefully with 11 days till the next game and a bye after that everyone will be at least mostly healthy
I thought it would feel good to see a packers fan in dismay. Instead, I feel you. Welcome to the club! - Bears fan.
You are so much more gracious in defeat than I would have been.
This game was my first time at lambeau. Drove 13 hours for the experience. That first half was laughably bad. But you know what, I still had such a good time being there and it was a wonderful experience to be at such a historic venue to watch my favorite team play 💚💛
Yeah I kind of expected this result. I have a big problem with the coaching since the atlanta game. Not only the Defense is not good but also the Offense is disappointing...
The Detroit Lions are one of the best teams in the league and this Packers fan would love to see them win the Super Bowl, given their decades of suffering. Having said that, I cannot figure out why my fellow Packers fans thought the Packers would be any different than what we witnessed. WE ARE REBUILDING! Relax. It's going to be a 8-9 season.
The general sentiment these days where players and staff have to be flawless or people call for heads is crazy. Rodgers started 6-10. Give Love a chance. And I swear I’m over Bears fans trying to close the book on Love when they spent 3 years talking up fields.
Bud, you guys pulled together a lot better in the 3rd quarter though. I was screaming at Ben Johnson to figure out that you can throw on first and second down. I know the Lions were trying to milk the clock, but it was costing us with very long third downs where we were still throwing to a receiver 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. The Pack O line just ran out of gas with Hutch jumping in and out of gaps and Buggs decided to have the game of his life tonight. Same with the Defense, 40 rushing attempts between Gibbs and Montgomery and most of the rushing straight into the interior of the line. Lionel does finally get to wear the suit, but there's a lot of season left for the Pack to find their identity and Thanksgiving isn't very far away. Always a pleasure to watch your channel bud
Dudes as a lions fan I can generally say I’ve never been more proud of this team this year! Yeah we fell short to Hawks but Dangg boys we are looking scary 😳🙏🏽
I'm a Seahawks fan and feel very very very fortunate that we got that win. Very easy could have gone the other way. I'm cheering for the Lions up until a playoff rematch with the Seahawks (which we both know would be the most fun game of the week)
David Montgomery remembers all the losses by the Packers as a Bear. CAUSE THE NORTH REMEMBERS!!!
“Welp, we just got our ass kicked”
Tom Grossi 2023
Best take by any fan. Especially by a huge of a packers fan. This is why you the goat grossi 🐐
The Lions are no joke.
Looking forward to the script writer session. One of my favorite new skits of yours. Keep the excellent content coming.
I knew this fanbase wouldn't react well to this season. We are in a rebuild, this is what those look and feel like. I've never really been through one but my whole family is Vikings fans and they go through it 2-3 times a decade. So we shift out of "win now" mode into rebuild mentality, this means instead of freaking about every loss and demanding every player get benched or cut, you rejoice over the wins we do manage to get and deal with what problems we have now with eye towards fixing those things in the future, as in next season, not this season.
Edit: oh yeah Barry's gotta go. Our defense is supposed to be about set as the offense needs more resources now, we really can't afford to pour even more into it after a decade of giving the bulk of the attention. So Barry's gotta go.
I cannot decide what is funnier, your little videos or hearing you recite the stats of last night's game 🖤💛
As a Browns fan I’m so happy for Detroit… they deserve a great year… the Browns deserve a great year… I’m tired of great teams staying great and the “laughing stock teams” always remaining the butt of jokes.
you guys have best defensive coach ....in the nfl i love jim i wis the lions had hm as our defense cord
I will say that Packers Fans sre the coolest fans to tailgate with. In the Barry Sanders days i lived 3 miles from the Pontiac Silverdome and saw the Pack once a year. Tickets weren't hard to come by in the 80,000 seat dome. Many great, good natured, pre game brat parties with you guys!
😂😂😂 that intro….your great man….Go Lions! 🦁
Recently, it feels like we are to the Lions what the Bears are to us. We beat the Bears 38-20 then lost to the Lions 34-20 in almost the exact same way with garbage time points.
Welcome to life as a patriots fan after Brady 😭
Packers are in a better situation. At least they didn't have to sign Cam Newton
Usually, the soul-crushing defeats on primetime don't happen in Lambeau until January!
Honestly we can’t win every game it sucks we lost but it’s good that the Packers are showing that they’re not gonna just lay down and die
Thursday night's win and the win back in January felt like an exorcism of decades of demons being expelled. Thanks for giving the Lions their Props. Much Respect to you.
hey tom, love you and what you do. but i'm going to enjoy this content tonight. feels good to be a Lions fan tonight 😁🎉
Let’s see how they respond to being embarrassed like this next Monday night. A mark of good coaching is rallying your team to respond after something like this. I think if we keep looking like how we have in the past two weeks, especially in the first half, then Matt’s seat gets hotter and hotter. This was a huge game and I feel like the past few years big games have just not gone our way and I think coaching has a lot do with that.
Lions fan for 28 years but I think Green Bay has a chance to still have a decent season. GB is 2-2 and plenty of season left. See you at ford field on thanksgiving
We stunk! I hope the coaching staff and the players realize they were embarrassing out there last night.
Last week and this week the Packers have really seemed like a second half team. I think if they can figure out how to tighten up the offense and gain momentum earlier in the game they’ll improve greatly