I prefer the FM2n, but would like to own both if I could afford them! I think the F3 is better for street photography, or less considered shots that require faster reactions, due to the aperture priority mode. But the FM2n is better for studio portraiture work, or more considered shots, due to the higher flash sync speed. It is also better for sports or fast moving subject due to the higher shutter speed. Lastly, I prefer the look of the FM2n also. Like you've said, it is somewhat subjective, but that is my 2 cents.
Great review . On Nikon Fm , Fe, FM2 and Fe2 you can use mirror lockup activating the self timer lever and then the release botton. I prefer …… the Nikon Fe2😂 1/4000, aperture priority, ttl flash, 1/250 sync speed, and hours of long exposure in A mode. Always fresh battery in my bag and a small coin to eventuely change them👍👏👏👏👍
Never used a Nikon FM2, however, it is hard for me to go against a 35mm camera that was in production for 20+ years, can be used with a waist level finder, and is built like a tank………….plus, I prefer aperture priority to manual, in most instances. The battery is a non-issue. Why do people always talk about "batteries" on film cameras, especially these little button batteries? The batteries last a minimum of 6 months, and that's shooting like 10 or 20 rolls of film per week...……...EVERY week (and who has done that since 1999?) AND you could put 5 of those batteries in your front pocket and not even know they're there. People act like they're carrying around a car battery. For me, the only drawbacks to the F3 are seeing the tiny, dimly lit metering display window in low-light and the slow synch speed, and even then, I don't use flash enough with film, for it to be an issue.
It's not the only reason why people prefer mechanical though. It's simply because electronics die more often than mechanical. Repairs for mechenical usually requires some cla and is good as new. If your f3's electronics dies.. I think it's time to say goodbye?
I too prefer the F3. I've used dozens of 35mm SLRs and that's the one I settled on. It is without a doubt one of the best 35mm SLRs ever produced by anyone at any time. I was hesitant at first because of the electronically controlled shutter but it's sort of "old school" electronics that are very rudimentary yet precise and robust so they rarely fail and I've gone almost a year on one battery with semi-frequent use. My only real complaint with the F3 is the advance lever. The whole camera is finely crafted brass and other metals and yet the advance lever is plastic. I realize this is a very nitpicky critique but no camera is perfect and there has to be something to complain about. Three other notes to add to your comparison: - The F3 has a 100% viewfinder so what you see when framing is exactly what you will get whereas with the FM2, which has a 93% viewfinder, will leave a little to the unknown when composing. - The F3 is a modular system so you can swap out many of the components to suit certain needs. The only one that the majority of people will consider is the use of different viewfinders. - When shooting aperture priority mode on the F3, the long exposure because basically infinite, all calculated by the camera. There was one time when I was in aperture priority mode and had the lens cap on and I accidentally tripped the shutter. The camera was exposing the film to just the inside of the lens cap for over 30 minutes! It is truly a remarkable camera/system, though the FM2 is no slouch either. It's just made for a different kind of photographer. Thanks for the great comparison!
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the additional info. I actually didn't know the difference in viewfinder coverage so that's good to know. And yeah I was wondering about why they went with that plastic advance lever. It does feel cheap when compared to the design of the rest of the camera. But in any case, the F3 is fantastic.
I love my FM2, been using it as my primary film camera for the last 13 years, but I would not pass on having an F3 in my bag, they are both great cameras
Great review, as always.. Luckily for me, I own both, along with a few more like: Minolta X-700, Olympus OM-2n and a Mamiya RB67.. The F3 is still the camera I shoot most with.. Fantastic camera
Nice summary of the two cameras. Personally I'm an FM2 guy because that's what I bought in 1991 as my first 'serious' camera. I honestly think the only really important difference between the two cameras is that the F3 has aperture priority. The battery thing? Not really an issue - it's not like we're talking about digital cameras here, batteries last for an age in film SLRs. As for the locking mechanism on the FM2 rewind lever, it's really about what you're used to. Having used it for a long time, I automatically flip it into the 'on' position when I pick up the camera and like the fact that there's no separate on/off switch. And I don't feel the temptation to push it all the way back which would lock the shutter until I'm ready to put it back in the bag. But I could see that might be annoying to people not used to it. Anyway, I'll be honest and say that I'd love to pick myself up a nice F3 just to try it. Not because I NEED one of course, but just because these classic film SLRs are just so damn sexy!
F3 is a pro camera and the best 35mm manual focus professional camera ever produced. The camera was made to be used with the MD4 motor drive to bring it to it's full potential. Nothing comes close including the F2 series. The FE and FM series were specifically made for the advanced armature market, however they were so well engineered in durability that they would and still do hold up to the rigors of daily professional work. FE in particular could be used with any lens made by Nikon since 1959 as the indexing pin can be lifted to mount non Ai lenses. The FE also had interchangeable screens the FM did not. I bought my FE in 1981 and still use it today. The F3 is on another level in terms of durability. The electronics alone had to be guaranteed for over 20 years from failure by the manufacture! unheard of even by today's standards. It was in production for over 20 years the longest of any 35mm camera ever. The F2 is the best mechanical Nikon. The features are to many to list but the variable shutter speeds from 125 to 2000 are the big difference when compared to the FM and FM2, on the F2 you can actually set a shutter speed of 1/350 or 1/900 when the shutter dial is in the green shutter speeds, that can't be done on the FM and FM2 or FM3. Also the self timer on the F2 can be used in conjunction with the mirror lockup and the T setting on the release to give mechanical exposures up to 10 seconds long. you can't do this with any FE or FM series cameras including the FM3. Want the best bang for buck , invest in a F3 or F2. In their day both cost over $1000 new back in 1980, today it would be $3000 when you add the inflation. Used you can pay about the same as a used FE or FM series.
Nice comparison. Both of these are great cameras, of course. I have been shooting both for decades. However, if I have to pick one to use today when shooting film, I prefer the F3HP for: (1) the F3's more strongly center-weighted (80/20) light meter; and (2) the F3HP's viewfinder with a much larger eyepiece and 100% frame coverage, since when we scan newly processed film strips in the modern era, we are capturing virtually 100% of the image on film.
I love the F3, and I also own OM1, OM1n, OM2, all of them great cameras. I am now after an F2 as well .... Although I also have a digital mirroless camera, most of the time I prefer the feeling of film ... old guy ... you know ... LOL . Nice video.
Your comparison between those cameras is pretty fair, and I agree with pros and cons you talked about the cameras, but I prefer FM2 for its simplicity and higher flash sync speed. One thing I love F3 more than FM2 is the shutter sound. F3's shutter sounds very soft and mild. Thank you for the video. I enjoyed a lot.
Funny enough I actually loved the locking shutter mechanism on the FM2. I've wasted enough frames in my life to appreciate a good shutter locking mechanism. That being said the locking mechanism on my old Rolleiflex TLR is far better designed.
Hey Brian! Yeah it's more of a personal pet peeve of mine than an objective design flaw. I prefer when cameras have a separate switch for the locking mechanism (like the F3 or some of my Canon cameras). I just got used to bringing the advance lever all the way back in one smooth motion when shooting with other film SLRs.
I only ever had the FM2 but I sold it a while back. Since I wear glasses and you can get that viewfinder on the F3 which is better for eyeglass wearers I might have to try one out. It's hard to justify shooting SLRs or rangefinders when you can't see the whole viewfinder. That's why I switched to TLRs with their waist level viewfinders.
At 5:07 you mention mirror lock-up on the F3. The FM2n also has mirror lock-up as soon as you turn on the self timer, the mirror locks up, preventing camera shake.
I’m looking into purchasing a camera. I have very little knowledge about photography, besides the photography class I took in high school over 20 years ago. Thank you for the useful information. I’m leaning towards the F2
The locking mechanism is excellent once you get used to it (and you are not prominent left eye shooter). Think of it as a superb thumb grip. I've started using the film lever as a thumb grip even on cameras that do not require the lever to be at a 30-degree angle and found it to be a better and lighter alternative to using 3rd party hand or thumb grips or half cases. Using the lever as a thumb grip ensures that you are always on the next frame and on a camera like the FM2, you're also ready to shoot. My first film Nikon was the Nikon FA, and I disliked the lever mechanism then, but after getting used to it on FA and having to use both FM2n and FE2, I've started using it also on cameras such as Nikon F3T/HP and Leica M7, which have separate power on switch.
Nice job Dan on hitting many of the key points, I also see some of the other commenters have added some thoughts like the high eyepoint and modular aspects. The F3 in its day would be the D4 now and the FM2 would be the D7200 of D5600. I personally always keep a MD4 motor drive on the F3 which makes it a real beast. Keep up the good work
If I had to choose one between the two, it would be the FM2 for me. I prefer the higher top shutter speed of 1/4000 seconds and the higher flash sync speed on the FM2. I think that those give the photographer more options while shooting. Just my 2 cents.
The locking film advance lever isn't a con for me because it comes down to personal preference. It's a great feature to have in my opinion and I love that I can lock the shutter and toss the camera in my bag and not worry about losing a shot.
Very true! It's a personal preference. I prefer having a dedicated switch that locks the shutter (like the Canon FTb, Canon AE-1 or Nikon F3) rather than the advance lever.
Yeh, and you don't have to worry so much about draining the batteries because it's also an on/off switch, my el2 has a shutter release lock, this allows the shutter to be pressed with the advance lever closed, but then the batteries will drain if you forget to switch it back again
I went through this decision in 1990 and ended up buying the FM2 for the reason of better information in the finder when using manual-exposure. With the F3 you can't tell if you are 1/3 of a stop of 3 stops, with the FM2 you'll know. Next was flash with a standard-hotshoe on the FM2 and much more practical synch-speed. That sealed the deal and I never had any regrets as someone who only occasionally used his photography for his work or to sell it.
I recently bough a Nikon FM2n. I like the rugged old school looks and feel but agree that the lever having to be 30 degrees open to allow the shutter to fire, is awkward. I just subscribed, came across your channel while searching information on Polaroid SX-70.
Choose none of these, choose F2 and you can not only take good images but also hammer nails into the wall, use it as an anchor for your 45 ft. sailing yacht during a huricane and battle of hordes of zombies by swinging it at their heads on its strap. Will still shoot pictures afterwards. Or forget them all and go Olympus OM-1, equally great in a different way. I own an FM2n but don't take it often for my OM-1 can do everything the FM2 can comparably well and is a smaller package and I own an F3, but don't take it often for my F2 feels soooo much nicer. I would take the F2 over the FM2 any day of the week though and I would take my Rolleiflex 3.5E over any 35mm SLR most of the time
+Thorsten Latz When the Apocalypse happens, the only things that will be left are the roaches and fully functional F2's. Fantastic cameras. Also love the OM1
Hahahaha true this very much. I have friends who swear by their F2s, and I myself am even tempted to splurge for an F2 Titan, given the choice, chance, and kaching. I do, however swear on the FM3a and my Rolleiflex MX, despite currently shooting more with my Leica IIIf.
Thanks for watching Mikel! Yeah, the battery life is really long. I just know one of these days I'll forget to replace the battery because they last a long time and it will be annoying lol. I love the F3 though. It's my favorite Nikon film camera I've used thus far.
I also shoot with both but I lean more towards the FM2. I wear glasses and find that the LED meter of the FM2 is easier to see than the meter in the F3 especially in low light. The FM2 is also lighter which helps when I'm carrying multiple cameras. The F3 however is more rugged and feels more professional.
I've had both (in fact, have been through 3 F3s/MD4) but prefer the FM2n, which I still have. I like having complete control without worrying about battery. Sunny 16 and I'm good to go. Also, own the AIS Nikkor 85 f2 & 55 2.8 macro lenses. Perfect fit for the FM2n.
Good comparison. I just ordered my first F3. I don't have an FM2 but I have an FE & FM. I actually prefer to the FE to the FM. I love the metering system in the FE. Hopefully I'll add an FE2 and maybe a FM3a to the collection eventually.
My favorite Nikon bodies are the Nikon F2AS (100% mechanical, except if you want to use the camera's meter) and the Nikon F100. The F2AS gives you the best of what was the Leica killer in the professional world of photojournalism in the 1970's era and the F100 gives you an AF or manual focus camera plus you get 3D Matrix metering, Center-Weighted & Spot Metering and Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, Program Mode and total manual control . I looked into an FM3A but didn't see that it offered me anything that these other two bodies don't offer. I use the F100 like a big Point & Shoot when I switch it to Aperture Priority, 3D Matrix Metering and AF. Of course you can go whole hog auto with Program Mode and just leave your brain at home and compose and fire. I also like the Spot Meter for shooting B&W and setting my shadow detail with the Zone System.
Those of us who have been using digital cameras for years are used to always carrying spare batteries. I really like both cameras, so I'll try to have them both.
Between those two, I'd go for the F3, though it would be a tough decision. The electronic shutter really isn't a huge liability. Yes, if the battery dies, you're limited to 1/60th. The simple answer is carry a spare battery. Batteries for the F3 will last for many, many rolls. So one spare will basically insure that you keep shooting for all but the longest trips. My first film body was a Mamiya/Sekor 500 DTL that was limited to 1/500th as the top shutter speed. So the 1/2000th top shutter speed isn't too much of a liability. It's easy enough to shoot slow film and/or use ND filters if shooting wide open at mid day is your thing. On the other hand, the precise, electronically controlled shutter with longer shutter speeds of the F3 is a big attraction for me. I like to take a lot of night shots on tripods and such. Big points to the F3 there. Additionally, you can configure an F3 to do almost anything. Because it was a stalwart of photojournalists and other professionals, the F3 was part of a huge system that could be adapted to almost any style of shooting. Another plus for the F3. In the end, you really can't go wrong with either and it will boil down to personal preferences and style of shooting. Both are remarkable cameras and a lot of fun to shoot with!
Yeah they're both great cameras and the F3 is the one for me as well. I also like the mechancial timed exposure setting that allows you to do a long exposure without draining the batteries with the electronic shutter. I'll just have to get some more batteries so that I always have a spare with me. That's certainly the simple solution to having a battery controlled camera. I can do it with my A6000 so there's no reason I can't have spares for the F3 as well lol
objectively the FM2 is "better" for two reasons: shutter speed up to 4000 as you righlty said and the bright red lights of the light meter which can be easily read in dark conditions, even at night time shoots! however, personally, the F3 has more charisma and i will always choose it instead of the FM2 :) great comparison man, good work!
i mean i have the 50mm f1.2 nikkor and i have been in some situations in which i would wanted to have a shutter speed of 4000 but i think i rather have 2000 and more options with the slow speeds :)
Super neat video. As a left eye user, share your dislike of the FM advance lever sticking out during operation. Understand not problem with F3. Just ordered one. Thanks for the concise insights. Well done.
I have an F3 and an FE2. Since the button batteries fit in a shirt pocket, last for months, and are available at any drug store, I don't worry about them.
F3 Because of the pedigree and the fact that it was designed by the Italian design legend Giorgetto Giugiaro… who also penned the Lotus Esprit. But the F4 is almost a collector’s item today. So for actual use were you don’t have to be “carful”…The F90x, F-501 or F-801 full of features and dirt cheap.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! I've been wanting to test out a F4. Love the F3. Will have to check out some of those other cameras. There are a lot of hidden gems in Nikon's film camera lineup that don't get much attention.
Yeah, there is a ton of late 80s to early 2000s AF Nikon 35mm cameras that are awesome but largely forgotten. I have/use my dad´s old F-801 (and recently I did a review about it), and one person commented that the modern equivalent would be something like the D800… So it can’t be that bad then ;-)
+T.B.Photo Yeah that time period was in some ways a peak in technology for film cameras but they've been forgotten because people were switching to digital. Bargains can be had for some of the forgotten gems 👍
Great video Dan. I use both the FM2n and F3 . I do prefere my FM2n, the crank lever isn't a problem for me. Maybe I should get out more with the F3 and get to know it better.
I've used/owned 6 manual Nikon models over the last 50 years, all of which used the "rest"position of the film advance lever as a "system off" switch. So for me, that's the norm. On my two later AF bodies with no advance lever, I find the dedicated on/off power switch to be necessary but inefficient.
Thanks for the video, very good description of the pros and cons of the two cameras. It seems that in the collective unconscious the myth of the totally mechanical camera has been installed at a disproportionate level. Surely the distrust of electronics over the years is of great help to feed the myth and not always without reason, but let's face it , when and how many times in our lives we will be in the situation that we run out of battery just in what could be the photo of our life. Nowadays those of us who use analog cameras do it in a very controlled environment because for extreme situations there are better digital options. Personally I still use film cameras for the pleasure of their imperfections and also the dark room. The sophisticated and heavy variants of the Nikon F5 type or F6 are interesting objects from the point of view of what engineering could achieve, but if I have to choose today I prefer a less sophisticated camera that simplifies taking a photo (and pick up the camera). If I want electronic aids or sophistication, well I choose a DSLR camera or a mirrorless one. A minolta X-500 is enough for me or if you want to pay a price it would be the Nikon FM3A, the best of both worlds.
One thing to consider regarding electronics in vintage cameras is the fact that they have a relatively shorter lifespan compared to mechanical components. If an electronic goes out, there most likely aren't replacements. If a mechanical component goes out, it is easier to be repaired by a qualified technician. I think that is why many people like the idea of having a mechanical camera.
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The locking shutter with the film advance lever when fully pressed on the FM2 is a great feature not a negative. User preference. Having said that, I'd choose the F3 over the FM2.
They're both great solidly built smooth cameras. The one thing that disappointed me with the F3 is the small dull viewfinder field which is the smallest and dullest of any camera I've used personally.
I agree fully with Fred Aldermann below, that batteries are a non issue - not a problem at all to carry a pair of spares in the event that they die out mid shoot ! However, when the battery "issue" is laid to rest, I would much prefer the FE2 where you get the best of both worlds in terms of 1/4000 shutter speed and the ability to shoot in aperture priority mode. On top of this you get a lot more visible and detailed (exept maybe in low light) meter scale in your viewfinder. I have had a Nikon F3 and while it is a great camera, I do think that it is too big and bulky - I much prefer the FM2/FE2 frame ergonomaically. Funny enough, I find the shutter lock mechanism of the film advance lever to be a plus - I always tend to rewind the film after taking a shot and without a locking mechanism I often find that I have wasted a shot by unintentionally pressing the shutter, while handling og carrying the camera around between shots :-) But everything is down to each own personal preferences - there is no right or wrong in this.
Which would you say has the lowest camera shake during shutter release? I mean, if you shoot with both cameras at 1/30th of a second, handheld, which is better?
Apples and oranges...back in the day, the F3 was the premier pro SLR body. The FM2 was more of an enthusiast model...because of price, a lot of pros kept one handy as a back-up body. The F3's only real drawback was that it wasn't an F2...the composite body always struck F2 users as a bit lightweight. Objectively, the F3 is a superior camera (as the F2 was superior to the original F). I have gotten decades of great photos from my FM2. It is a completely manual exposure camera...if you prefer the freedom of shooting auto, the FE2 or F3 are better choices.
owned the F3, fe2, mg, em, f2, F and the FM2... I love that the FM2 can be used without a battery. thats the biggest plus. if you are down and out you can still take photos at all speeds. easy to read metering system, to me its as solid as a leica M6 with way more shutter speed available. not as quiet but for the price of the M6, you can own two FM2's buy extra batteries, have a 28mm and 50mm on each body and be ready for the streets and even the press. perfect journalist camera in my opinion. if you have the money, leica M6 and a 28mm and 50mm summicron. if not, Nikon Fm2 with a 28mm f2.8 and a 50mm 1.4, extra body and batteries and still have way more left over for all the film you will be sooting. F3 great tinkering camera, good in the field but remember, the field journalists requested the FM3A... that says a lot. maybe you coulddo a review on the FM3A vs the F3HP next?
In the case that no one before mentioned, you can override locking mechanism on the FM2 simply by adding MD12 motor drive. Moreover, if i recall correctly, F3 has TTL, but only with dedicated speedlite SB16b. Yes, adapters was made, but without TTL. The only exception to this was Nikon F3 press, which had TTL hot shoe mounted on the pentaprism.
Noob question Would a photo come out the same quality with a canon ae1 and a nikon f2 using same type lens under same exact settings on both cameras ? Or is there anything that would make the photo on the F2 superior in terms in quality ? Also what about the F2 and the F2SA ? Same lens same settings? Would the photo on the as make it superior to the regular f2 ? I think the SA uses different lens right ? Im thinking what camera i want to buy. I want the best quality possible from a 35mm and i been thinking of these option.
F3 with HP finder. 100% coverage and I can see the entire frame. Prefer the match needle meter from the FE2/FM3a, though. No such thing as the perfect camera...
Own and love the F3, but the primitive LCD display for the meter is its Achilles heel. All of them will eventually wear out, and there are no replacements available anywhere. It is really difficult to find a copy with LCD that isn't already dim. I really wish Nikon would have used a needle instead. That's why I also have the FM3a, which has a needle, mechanical shutter, and will be working long after the F3 LCD display is comletely unreadable.
Hi Dan, I'm starting with the film camera and I'm interested in the Nikon F3T. I'm not so good at English. So I can't understand what you say in the video. I hope you can comment on its strengths here and that I can read it easily. Thank you so much
Hi Tan! The Nikon F3T is an excellent camera - good automatic features (such as an accurate light meter and aperture priority mode). It's extremely reliable and fun to use. I would recommend this camera
The FM3a is excellent, but it sells for over $500. For that kind of money you could buy both an F3 and an FM2. With film it's nice to have at least two bodies so you can keep different films loaded.
The FM3a is one of the few Nikons to have a slow depreciation rate, given the fact that it is the latest (and last) mechanical Nikon to be made in-house. Also it was just discontinued in 2006, and of course it is worth an F3 and FM2 combined, features and price-wise. I actually have one in black and got it for a sweet sweet deal of PHP10,000 (w/o shipping), or US$200. The price is just because of its used optical condition though, and the insides work super great.
For a blend of major features, the FE2 is quite similar to the FM3a (or visa versa)without the FM3a's higher prices. For the type of 35mm photography I tend to do, I prefer the F100 with some zoooms, but if I'm going for a higher quality output, my fall-back is an F3 with a group of the best MF lenses Nikon ever made, always ready to go.
I have both.... I prefer the F3 personally. The only thing I prefer FM2 is the weight.... I have never like the winding lever to the on off switch.... there have been too many times I forget to "on" the camera.
I believe that is correct. From what I've read, it doesn't look like you can mount non-AI lenses to the FM2; whereas you can do that on the F3. So fewer lens options may be an additional knock on the FM2.
@Aaron NoneYa A modern digital shooter sends his camera in for repair can't do that with a F3 at least not with the electronic components. I won't recommend the small Nikons they don't hold up like a F2. Mine haven't held up well. Couple of years ago could pick them up for peanuts so when a FM or FE died no big deal. I often bought them for the lens that was on the camera. However they aren't cheap anymore. Strange thing my Olympus cameras hold up great even they don't appear as well made. Could be they were pro grade where the FM ect were consumer.
I want to ask something, i recently bought a nikon fm2n but the metering only shows the "-" on it, and always appear when i set the camera between 1/250 until 1/4000, although i already change another setting to make it not under exposed. Should i fix it and how, or just ignore and used a 3rd party light meter??? Thanks
You could take it to a local camera shop to have them look at it. But if I were you, I would just download a light meter app on my cell phone and use that instead.
As much as a love my F3, my FM2 is lighter, has a better shutter and is more compact. Of course, if you want to round out your Nikon collection, you need the F, F2, F3, F4 and F5 as well as the FM2, lol.
If the locking mechanism on FM2 is annoying you, buy a motor drive for it. If I recall correctly, that solves that problem. If you don't mind the bulk that is :-)
+Zardgaming 101 Hello and thanks for watching! I'd love to help. I'm not sure I understand your question. What do you mean by the "actual camera"? Are you asking why sometimes people sell the camera body without a lens?
Probably the F3. It's my favorite Nikon camera I've used so far. I just love the feel of shooting with it and all the manual controls. The F100 is great if you need autofocus. I've shot a few rolls with the F100 but I just prefer the feel and functionality of the F3
It cannot. There was an autofocus version of the F3 made in 1983 but it's fairly rare and only can autofocus with two specially built lenses for that camera. Whereas the F100 supports autofocus with most modern Nikon autofocus lenses.
This is like saying which is better for you a Ferrari or a diesel pick-up truck? They are different cameras for different situations or styles. You don't compare them, you buy and use them BOTH!
If you compare the F3 with the FE2, all of the auto exposure factors favoring the F3 then disappear. Over the years, I had much more experience with the FM2 and FE2 than with my F3, but I think if i was forced to dump my F100 and use one or the other, I'd go with the F3 for its wealth of interchangeable screens and its various, superior viewfinders.
This is all kind of nonsense. I have an F4 an F3 an FA and an F301. The F301 was the first slr I ever bought 30 years ago so I'll always be sentimental about it. It's also very well built. It seriously doesn't matter which of these cameras you have. Your eye is the crucial factor.
If you compare the FE2 to the F3 you have a lot fewer niggles than the FM2. The FE2 does have an aperture priority mode and it does have long exposures out to 8 seconds built-in before moving to Bulb. Also, if you use the built-in timer on the FM2 or FE2 does that not also do a mirror lock-up function before the shutter is released? I suppose that would work best when using a tripod however. Love my FE2! Thanks.
I have had a FA and planning an FM2.....I think FA might be a better choice for budget(I got mine with $70 on ebay) but I still wanna buy a FM2.... No reason, just having fun
It was not a hard decision for me because the F3 had one of the most important features I needed -- interchangeable viewfinders. Even the Miranda Sensorex that I was using before my Nikon F, F2, F3, and F4 had interchangeable viewfinders. Since I did a lot of medical/scientific photography, I really needed to be able to use a waist level viewfinder when mounting my camera to a microscope or a telescope. I needed to be able to use a sportsfinder while wearing protective goggles. I needed to use a magnified view finder when shooting macro subjects with a copy stand.
Wow, this was the exact question I asked myself 20 years ago! In the end, I chose a FM2 because it's mechanical and can sure survive apocalypse.
I prefer the FM2n, but would like to own both if I could afford them! I think the F3 is better for street photography, or less considered shots that require faster reactions, due to the aperture priority mode. But the FM2n is better for studio portraiture work, or more considered shots, due to the higher flash sync speed. It is also better for sports or fast moving subject due to the higher shutter speed.
Lastly, I prefer the look of the FM2n also. Like you've said, it is somewhat subjective, but that is my 2 cents.
I always preferred my FM2n over my F3. However recently I've rediscovered the F3 and love it.
Great review . On Nikon Fm , Fe, FM2 and Fe2 you can use mirror lockup activating the self timer lever and then the release botton. I prefer …… the Nikon Fe2😂 1/4000, aperture priority, ttl flash, 1/250 sync speed, and hours of long exposure in A mode. Always fresh battery in my bag and a small coin to eventuely change them👍👏👏👏👍
My F3 died because of an electronic damage. I agree with you, the F3 IS a tank. But the FM2n is my actual choice because of the mechanical functions.
Never used a Nikon FM2, however, it is hard for me to go against a 35mm camera that was in production for 20+ years, can be used with a waist level finder, and is built like a tank………….plus, I prefer aperture priority to manual, in most instances.
The battery is a non-issue. Why do people always talk about "batteries" on film cameras, especially these little button batteries? The batteries last a minimum of 6 months, and that's shooting like 10 or 20 rolls of film per week...……...EVERY week (and who has done that since 1999?) AND you could put 5 of those batteries in your front pocket and not even know they're there. People act like they're carrying around a car battery.
For me, the only drawbacks to the F3 are seeing the tiny, dimly lit metering display window in low-light and the slow synch speed, and even then, I don't use flash enough with film, for it to be an issue.
Alderman Fred C. Davis what’s the name for the Nikon FM2 waist level viewfinder?
Waist level finder on 35mm cameras are pointless. Too small and not ergonomic. Only makes sense on medium format cameras.
😂 i agree, that car battery part made me laugh
It's not the only reason why people prefer mechanical though. It's simply because electronics die more often than mechanical. Repairs for mechenical usually requires some cla and is good as new. If your f3's electronics dies.. I think it's time to say goodbye?
I too prefer the F3. I've used dozens of 35mm SLRs and that's the one I settled on. It is without a doubt one of the best 35mm SLRs ever produced by anyone at any time. I was hesitant at first because of the electronically controlled shutter but it's sort of "old school" electronics that are very rudimentary yet precise and robust so they rarely fail and I've gone almost a year on one battery with semi-frequent use. My only real complaint with the F3 is the advance lever. The whole camera is finely crafted brass and other metals and yet the advance lever is plastic. I realize this is a very nitpicky critique but no camera is perfect and there has to be something to complain about.
Three other notes to add to your comparison:
- The F3 has a 100% viewfinder so what you see when framing is exactly what you will get whereas with the FM2, which has a 93% viewfinder, will leave a little to the unknown when composing.
- The F3 is a modular system so you can swap out many of the components to suit certain needs. The only one that the majority of people will consider is the use of different viewfinders.
- When shooting aperture priority mode on the F3, the long exposure because basically infinite, all calculated by the camera. There was one time when I was in aperture priority mode and had the lens cap on and I accidentally tripped the shutter. The camera was exposing the film to just the inside of the lens cap for over 30 minutes!
It is truly a remarkable camera/system, though the FM2 is no slouch either. It's just made for a different kind of photographer. Thanks for the great comparison!
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the additional info. I actually didn't know the difference in viewfinder coverage so that's good to know. And yeah I was wondering about why they went with that plastic advance lever. It does feel cheap when compared to the design of the rest of the camera. But in any case, the F3 is fantastic.
I love my FM2, been using it as my primary film camera for the last 13 years, but I would not pass on having an F3 in my bag, they are both great cameras
Great review, as always.. Luckily for me, I own both, along with a few more like: Minolta X-700, Olympus OM-2n and a Mamiya RB67.. The F3 is still the camera I shoot most with.. Fantastic camera
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Nice summary of the two cameras. Personally I'm an FM2 guy because that's what I bought in 1991 as my first 'serious' camera. I honestly think the only really important difference between the two cameras is that the F3 has aperture priority. The battery thing? Not really an issue - it's not like we're talking about digital cameras here, batteries last for an age in film SLRs. As for the locking mechanism on the FM2 rewind lever, it's really about what you're used to. Having used it for a long time, I automatically flip it into the 'on' position when I pick up the camera and like the fact that there's no separate on/off switch. And I don't feel the temptation to push it all the way back which would lock the shutter until I'm ready to put it back in the bag. But I could see that might be annoying to people not used to it. Anyway, I'll be honest and say that I'd love to pick myself up a nice F3 just to try it. Not because I NEED one of course, but just because these classic film SLRs are just so damn sexy!
+Colin Bradbury Yeah it's all about personal preference. And the nice thing is you don't have to pick one or the other. You can get both cameras 🙌👍
F3 is a pro camera and the best 35mm manual focus professional camera ever produced. The camera was made to be used with the MD4 motor drive to bring it to it's full potential. Nothing comes close including the F2 series. The FE and FM series were specifically made for the advanced armature market, however they were so well engineered in durability that they would and still do hold up to the rigors of daily professional work. FE in particular could be used with any lens made by Nikon since 1959 as the indexing pin can be lifted to mount non Ai lenses. The FE also had interchangeable screens the FM did not. I bought my FE in 1981 and still use it today. The F3 is on another level in terms of durability. The electronics alone had to be guaranteed for over 20 years from failure by the manufacture! unheard of even by today's standards. It was in production for over 20 years the longest of any 35mm camera ever. The F2 is the best mechanical Nikon. The features are to many to list but the variable shutter speeds from 125 to 2000 are the big difference when compared to the FM and FM2, on the F2 you can actually set a shutter speed of 1/350 or 1/900 when the shutter dial is in the green shutter speeds, that can't be done on the FM and FM2 or FM3. Also the self timer on the F2 can be used in conjunction with the mirror lockup and the T setting on the release to give mechanical exposures up to 10 seconds long. you can't do this with any FE or FM series cameras including the FM3.
Want the best bang for buck , invest in a F3 or F2. In their day both cost over $1000 new back in 1980, today it would be $3000 when you add the inflation. Used you can pay about the same as a used FE or FM series.
Gear doesn't make the photographer, sayid that, Steve McCurry shot the "Afghan Girl" with an FM2 and a 105 f2.5, not an F3, not an F2.
Nice comparison. Both of these are great cameras, of course. I have been shooting both for decades. However, if I have to pick one to use today when shooting film, I prefer the F3HP for: (1) the F3's more strongly center-weighted (80/20) light meter; and (2) the F3HP's viewfinder with a much larger eyepiece and 100% frame coverage, since when we scan newly processed film strips in the modern era, we are capturing virtually 100% of the image on film.
I love the F3, and I also own OM1, OM1n, OM2, all of them great cameras. I am now after an F2 as well .... Although I also have a digital mirroless camera, most of the time I prefer the feeling of film ... old guy ... you know ... LOL . Nice video.
Your comparison between those cameras is pretty fair, and I agree with pros and cons you talked about the cameras, but I prefer FM2 for its simplicity and higher flash sync speed. One thing I love F3 more than FM2 is the shutter sound. F3's shutter sounds very soft and mild. Thank you for the video. I enjoyed a lot.
Funny enough I actually loved the locking shutter mechanism on the FM2. I've wasted enough frames in my life to appreciate a good shutter locking mechanism. That being said the locking mechanism on my old Rolleiflex TLR is far better designed.
Hey Brian! Yeah it's more of a personal pet peeve of mine than an objective design flaw. I prefer when cameras have a separate switch for the locking mechanism (like the F3 or some of my Canon cameras). I just got used to bringing the advance lever all the way back in one smooth motion when shooting with other film SLRs.
I only ever had the FM2 but I sold it a while back. Since I wear glasses and you can get that viewfinder on the F3 which is better for eyeglass wearers I might have to try one out. It's hard to justify shooting SLRs or rangefinders when you can't see the whole viewfinder. That's why I switched to TLRs with their waist level viewfinders.
At 5:07 you mention mirror lock-up on the F3. The FM2n also has mirror lock-up as soon as you turn on the self timer, the mirror locks up, preventing camera shake.
I’m looking into purchasing a camera. I have very little knowledge about photography, besides the photography class I took in high school over 20 years ago. Thank you for the useful information. I’m leaning towards the F2
The locking mechanism is excellent once you get used to it (and you are not prominent left eye shooter). Think of it as a superb thumb grip. I've started using the film lever as a thumb grip even on cameras that do not require the lever to be at a 30-degree angle and found it to be a better and lighter alternative to using 3rd party hand or thumb grips or half cases. Using the lever as a thumb grip ensures that you are always on the next frame and on a camera like the FM2, you're also ready to shoot.
My first film Nikon was the Nikon FA, and I disliked the lever mechanism then, but after getting used to it on FA and having to use both FM2n and FE2, I've started using it also on cameras such as Nikon F3T/HP and Leica M7, which have separate power on switch.
Excellent video 😮!
Nice job Dan on hitting many of the key points, I also see some of the other commenters have added some thoughts like the high eyepoint and modular aspects. The F3 in its day would be the D4 now and the FM2 would be the D7200 of D5600. I personally always keep a MD4 motor drive on the F3 which makes it a real beast. Keep up the good work
+Kevin Mayo Thanks Kevin! 🙌
If I had to choose one between the two, it would be the FM2 for me. I prefer the higher top shutter speed of 1/4000 seconds and the higher flash sync speed on the FM2. I think that those give the photographer more options while shooting. Just my 2 cents.
The locking film advance lever isn't a con for me because it comes down to personal preference. It's a great feature to have in my opinion and I love that I can lock the shutter and toss the camera in my bag and not worry about losing a shot.
Very true! It's a personal preference. I prefer having a dedicated switch that locks the shutter (like the Canon FTb, Canon AE-1 or Nikon F3) rather than the advance lever.
Yeh, and you don't have to worry so much about draining the batteries because it's also an on/off switch, my el2 has a shutter release lock, this allows the shutter to be pressed with the advance lever closed, but then the batteries will drain if you forget to switch it back again
I went through this decision in 1990 and ended up buying the FM2 for the reason of better information in the finder when using manual-exposure. With the F3 you can't tell if you are 1/3 of a stop of 3 stops, with the FM2 you'll know. Next was flash with a standard-hotshoe on the FM2 and much more practical synch-speed. That sealed the deal and I never had any regrets as someone who only occasionally used his photography for his work or to sell it.
I recently bough a Nikon FM2n. I like the rugged old school looks and feel but agree that the lever having to be 30 degrees open to allow the shutter to fire, is awkward.
I just subscribed, came across your channel while searching information on Polaroid SX-70.
+swiftangel88 Thank you for watching and subscribing! It's so much fun shooting with vintage cameras like the FM2 and SX-70
Choose none of these, choose F2 and you can not only take good images but also hammer nails into the wall, use it as an anchor for your 45 ft. sailing yacht during a huricane and battle of hordes of zombies by swinging it at their heads on its strap. Will still shoot pictures afterwards.
Or forget them all and go Olympus OM-1, equally great in a different way.
I own an FM2n but don't take it often for my OM-1 can do everything the FM2 can comparably well and is a smaller package and I own an F3, but don't take it often for my F2 feels soooo much nicer. I would take the F2 over the FM2 any day of the week though and I would take my Rolleiflex 3.5E over any 35mm SLR most of the time
+Thorsten Latz When the Apocalypse happens, the only things that will be left are the roaches and fully functional F2's. Fantastic cameras. Also love the OM1
Hahahaha true this very much. I have friends who swear by their F2s, and I myself am even tempted to splurge for an F2 Titan, given the choice, chance, and kaching.
I do, however swear on the FM3a and my Rolleiflex MX, despite currently shooting more with my Leica IIIf.
Aight.
I like the fact the FM2ns work at all speeds without batteries. The battery is only for the light meter.
I have both of these amazing tools at my disposal, so the real question is when should I grab each of them and head out for a shooting session?
I have a Nikon F3 and I love it! The batteries last quite a while and I don't think its that big of a deal that its a battery operated shutter.
Thanks for watching Mikel! Yeah, the battery life is really long. I just know one of these days I'll forget to replace the battery because they last a long time and it will be annoying lol. I love the F3 though. It's my favorite Nikon film camera I've used thus far.
I also shoot with both but I lean more towards the FM2. I wear glasses and find that the LED meter of the FM2 is easier to see than the meter in the F3 especially in low light. The FM2 is also lighter which helps when I'm carrying multiple cameras. The F3 however is more rugged and feels more professional.
+qnetx Yeah they're both great cameras so it really all just comes down to personal preference :)
I've had both (in fact, have been through 3 F3s/MD4) but prefer the FM2n, which I still have. I like having complete control without worrying about battery. Sunny 16 and I'm good to go. Also, own the AIS Nikkor 85 f2 & 55 2.8 macro lenses. Perfect fit for the FM2n.
Good comparison. I just ordered my first F3. I don't have an FM2 but I have an FE & FM. I actually prefer to the FE to the FM. I love the metering system in the FE. Hopefully I'll add an FE2 and maybe a FM3a to the collection eventually.
+Craig Bergonzoni Very cool! You're building quite the collection Craig 👍
My favorite Nikon bodies are the Nikon F2AS (100% mechanical, except if you want to use the camera's meter) and the Nikon F100. The F2AS gives you the best of what was the Leica killer in the professional world of photojournalism in the 1970's era and the F100 gives you an AF or manual focus camera plus you get 3D Matrix metering, Center-Weighted & Spot Metering and Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, Program Mode and total manual control . I looked into an FM3A but didn't see that it offered me anything that these other two bodies don't offer. I use the F100 like a big Point & Shoot when I switch it to Aperture Priority, 3D Matrix Metering and AF. Of course you can go whole hog auto with Program Mode and just leave your brain at home and compose and fire. I also like the Spot Meter for shooting B&W and setting my shadow detail with the Zone System.
Those of us who have been using digital cameras for years are used to always carrying spare batteries. I really like both cameras, so I'll try to have them both.
Between those two, I'd go for the F3, though it would be a tough decision. The electronic shutter really isn't a huge liability. Yes, if the battery dies, you're limited to 1/60th. The simple answer is carry a spare battery. Batteries for the F3 will last for many, many rolls. So one spare will basically insure that you keep shooting for all but the longest trips.
My first film body was a Mamiya/Sekor 500 DTL that was limited to 1/500th as the top shutter speed. So the 1/2000th top shutter speed isn't too much of a liability. It's easy enough to shoot slow film and/or use ND filters if shooting wide open at mid day is your thing.
On the other hand, the precise, electronically controlled shutter with longer shutter speeds of the F3 is a big attraction for me. I like to take a lot of night shots on tripods and such. Big points to the F3 there.
Additionally, you can configure an F3 to do almost anything. Because it was a stalwart of photojournalists and other professionals, the F3 was part of a huge system that could be adapted to almost any style of shooting. Another plus for the F3.
In the end, you really can't go wrong with either and it will boil down to personal preferences and style of shooting. Both are remarkable cameras and a lot of fun to shoot with!
Yeah they're both great cameras and the F3 is the one for me as well. I also like the mechancial timed exposure setting that allows you to do a long exposure without draining the batteries with the electronic shutter. I'll just have to get some more batteries so that I always have a spare with me. That's certainly the simple solution to having a battery controlled camera. I can do it with my A6000 so there's no reason I can't have spares for the F3 as well lol
objectively the FM2 is "better" for two reasons: shutter speed up to 4000 as you righlty said and the bright red lights of the light meter which can be easily read in dark conditions, even at night time shoots! however, personally, the F3 has more charisma and i will always choose it instead of the FM2 :) great comparison man, good work!
Thanks man! Yeah I definitely think the FM2 outslugs the F3 with the fast shutter speed. Like you, I also just prefer the feel of shooting with a F3.
i mean i have the 50mm f1.2 nikkor and i have been in some situations in which i would wanted to have a shutter speed of 4000 but i think i rather have 2000 and more options with the slow speeds :)
I actually love the shutter lock feature on FM2. I find it annoying my other camera doesn't have it.
I'd probably choose the F3 although I'm more of Olympus/Minolta 35mm film shooter. You can't go wrong with either of these though to be honest :)
+Howie Mudge Photography Yeah they're both great :) I also have Olympus, Canon and Pentax 😂
Super neat video. As a left eye user, share your dislike of the FM advance lever sticking out during operation. Understand not problem with F3. Just ordered one. Thanks for the concise insights. Well done.
i had this question on my mind just last night !
Ha! We must be on the same wavelength or something lol. Thanks for watching! Hope I could shed some light on this question.
I have an F3 and an FE2. Since the button batteries fit in a shirt pocket, last for months, and are available at any drug store, I don't worry about them.
+Jonathan Fairchild Yeah it's a good point. The batteries thing is really nitpicking by me lol
F3 Because of the pedigree and the fact that it was designed by the Italian design legend
Giorgetto Giugiaro… who also penned the Lotus Esprit. But
the F4 is almost a collector’s item today. So for actual use were you don’t have
to be “carful”…The F90x, F-501 or F-801 full of features and dirt cheap.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! I've been wanting to test out a F4. Love the F3. Will have to check out some of those other cameras. There are a lot of hidden gems in Nikon's film camera lineup that don't get much attention.
Yeah, there is a ton of late 80s to early 2000s AF Nikon 35mm cameras that are awesome but
largely forgotten.
I have/use my dad´s old F-801 (and recently I did a review about it), and one person commented that the modern equivalent would be something like the D800… So it can’t be that bad then ;-)
+T.B.Photo Yeah that time period was in some ways a peak in technology for film cameras but they've been forgotten because people were switching to digital. Bargains can be had for some of the forgotten gems 👍
Great video Dan. I use both the FM2n and F3 . I do prefere my FM2n, the crank lever isn't a problem for me. Maybe I should get out more with the F3 and get to know it better.
+cameracameras Thanks! Yeah take that F3 out for a spin 👍
I've used/owned 6 manual Nikon models over the last 50 years, all of which used the "rest"position of the film advance lever as a "system off" switch. So for me, that's the norm. On my two later AF bodies with no advance lever, I find the dedicated on/off power switch to be necessary but inefficient.
Thanks for the video, very good description of the pros and cons of the two cameras. It seems that in the collective unconscious the myth of the totally mechanical camera has been installed at a disproportionate level. Surely the distrust of electronics over the years is of great help to feed the myth and not always without reason, but let's face it , when and how many times in our lives we will be in the situation that we run out of battery just in what could be the photo of our life. Nowadays those of us who use analog cameras do it in a very controlled environment because for extreme situations there are better digital options. Personally I still use film cameras for the pleasure of their imperfections and also the dark room. The sophisticated and heavy variants of the Nikon F5 type or F6 are interesting objects from the point of view of what engineering could achieve, but if I have to choose today I prefer a less sophisticated camera that simplifies taking a photo (and pick up the camera). If I want electronic aids or sophistication, well I choose a DSLR camera or a mirrorless one. A minolta X-500 is enough for me or if you want to pay a price it would be the Nikon FM3A, the best of both worlds.
One thing to consider regarding electronics in vintage cameras is the fact that they have a relatively shorter lifespan compared to mechanical components. If an electronic goes out, there most likely aren't replacements. If a mechanical component goes out, it is easier to be repaired by a qualified technician. I think that is why many people like the idea of having a mechanical camera.
May I ask you a personal question? Do you suffer with breathlessness during speaking? Ask your close ones for if you snore during sleep. If both is yes then consult a doctor. I have lost one of my friends due to this. He had an heart attack due to central sleep apnea.
By the way video was super helpful
The locking shutter with the film advance lever when fully pressed on the FM2 is a great feature not a negative. User preference. Having said that, I'd choose the F3 over the FM2.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it's definitely a personal preference. Personally, I hate it
They're both great solidly built smooth cameras. The one thing that disappointed me with the F3 is the small dull viewfinder field which is the smallest and dullest of any camera I've used personally.
Truth.
I agree fully with Fred Aldermann below, that batteries are a non issue - not a problem at all to carry a pair of spares in the event that they die out mid shoot !
However, when the battery "issue" is laid to rest, I would much prefer the FE2 where you get the best of both worlds in terms of 1/4000 shutter speed and the ability to shoot in aperture priority mode. On top of this you get a lot more visible and detailed (exept maybe in low light) meter scale in your viewfinder.
I have had a Nikon F3 and while it is a great camera, I do think that it is too big and bulky - I much prefer the FM2/FE2 frame ergonomaically.
Funny enough, I find the shutter lock mechanism of the film advance lever to be a plus - I always tend to rewind the film after taking a shot and without a locking mechanism I often find that I have wasted a shot by unintentionally pressing the shutter, while handling og carrying the camera around between shots :-)
But everything is down to each own personal preferences - there is no right or wrong in this.
give me some advice please.. should i choose nikon fe or the nikon fm2?
I suspect that photographers that choose to carry the F3 are savvy enough And strong enough to carry a spare battery.
I have two F3's as well as a MD-4 & SB-12 Speedlight,,,,I also have 3 FM2n's and a MD-12 for them a few truster light.
Which would you say has the lowest camera shake during shutter release? I mean, if you shoot with both cameras at 1/30th of a second, handheld, which is better?
Apples and oranges...back in the day, the F3 was the premier pro SLR body. The FM2 was more of an enthusiast model...because of price, a lot of pros kept one handy as a back-up body.
The F3's only real drawback was that it wasn't an F2...the composite body always struck F2 users as a bit lightweight. Objectively, the F3 is a superior camera (as the F2 was superior to the original F).
I have gotten decades of great photos from my FM2. It is a completely manual exposure camera...if you prefer the freedom of shooting auto, the FE2 or F3 are better choices.
owned the F3, fe2, mg, em, f2, F and the FM2... I love that the FM2 can be used without a battery. thats the biggest plus. if you are down and out you can still take photos at all speeds. easy to read metering system, to me its as solid as a leica M6 with way more shutter speed available. not as quiet but for the price of the M6, you can own two FM2's buy extra batteries, have a 28mm and 50mm on each body and be ready for the streets and even the press. perfect journalist camera in my opinion. if you have the money, leica M6 and a 28mm and 50mm summicron. if not, Nikon Fm2 with a 28mm f2.8 and a 50mm 1.4, extra body and batteries and still have way more left over for all the film you will be sooting. F3 great tinkering camera, good in the field but remember, the field journalists requested the FM3A... that says a lot. maybe you coulddo a review on the FM3A vs the F3HP next?
In the case that no one before mentioned, you can override locking mechanism on the FM2 simply by adding MD12 motor drive. Moreover, if i recall correctly, F3 has TTL, but only with dedicated speedlite SB16b. Yes, adapters was made, but without TTL. The only exception to this was Nikon F3 press, which had TTL hot shoe mounted on the pentaprism.
Thanks for the comparison video. I'm currently trying to make this exact decision.
No problem Cody! Thanks for watching! Lemme know which one you pick.
Noob question
Would a photo come out the same quality with a canon ae1 and a nikon f2 using same type lens under same exact settings on both cameras ?
Or is there anything that would make the photo on the F2 superior in terms in quality ?
Also what about the F2 and the F2SA ? Same lens same settings? Would the photo on the as make it superior to the regular f2 ? I think the SA uses different lens right ?
Im thinking what camera i want to buy. I want the best quality possible from a 35mm and i been thinking of these option.
F3 with HP finder. 100% coverage and I can see the entire frame. Prefer the match needle meter from the FE2/FM3a, though. No such thing as the perfect camera...
F3 is one of the all time greats.My vote for the all time great 35mm film camera is the F4.
Yeah, love the F3! Looking forward to trying out the F4. Definitely more flexible with less compatibility.
Having an electronic timer build inside does also mean that the F3 will still have reliable shutter speed after all this time
@Dan Bullman....Great review,smart and in depth and a nice personality.I will subscribe right after this message...keep up the stellar work brother !!
Thank you! :)
Own and love the F3, but the primitive LCD display for the meter is its Achilles heel. All of them will eventually wear out, and there are no replacements available anywhere. It is really difficult to find a copy with LCD that isn't already dim. I really wish Nikon would have used a needle instead. That's why I also have the FM3a, which has a needle, mechanical shutter, and will be working long after the F3 LCD display is comletely unreadable.
Really good video, Dan!
Thank you Scott!
Overcoming the battery issue is quite easy..just carry a spare in your bag.
+catey62 very true. I just often forget because I have so many different battery types for different cameras 😂
Hi Dan, I'm starting with the film camera and I'm interested in the Nikon F3T. I'm not so good at English. So I can't understand what you say in the video. I hope you can comment on its strengths here and that I can read it easily.
Thank you so much
Hi Tan! The Nikon F3T is an excellent camera - good automatic features (such as an accurate light meter and aperture priority mode). It's extremely reliable and fun to use. I would recommend this camera
Thanks Dan, I'll buy and experience it.
I'm happy if you can share a few photos (via flickr, instagram, ...)
+Tan Nguyen No problem! If you check out my video on the F3 I believe I shared sample photos ruclips.net/video/GEqC3oxpzfQ/видео.html
Get an FM3a and be done with these comparisons! 😉
Hmmm, you might be on to something there :)
The FM3a is excellent, but it sells for over $500. For that kind of money you could buy both an F3 and an FM2. With film it's nice to have at least two bodies so you can keep different films loaded.
+Michael Hanson Good point Michael ✌
The FM3a is one of the few Nikons to have a slow depreciation rate, given the fact that it is the latest (and last) mechanical Nikon to be made in-house. Also it was just discontinued in 2006, and of course it is worth an F3 and FM2 combined, features and price-wise.
I actually have one in black and got it for a sweet sweet deal of PHP10,000 (w/o shipping), or US$200. The price is just because of its used optical condition though, and the insides work super great.
For a blend of major features, the FE2 is quite similar to the FM3a (or visa versa)without the FM3a's higher prices. For the type of 35mm photography I tend to do, I prefer the F100 with some zoooms, but if I'm going for a higher quality output, my fall-back is an F3 with a group of the best MF lenses Nikon ever made, always ready to go.
I have both.... I prefer the F3 personally. The only thing I prefer FM2 is the weight.... I have never like the winding lever to the on off switch.... there have been too many times I forget to "on" the camera.
I feel the same way! Thanks for watching Gary
Thanks for the info! I have been looking at both of these cameras. I already have an FM so maybe I'll go with the F3.
The FM2 has the AI lever that can't be put up right like the F3 right?
I believe that is correct. From what I've read, it doesn't look like you can mount non-AI lenses to the FM2; whereas you can do that on the F3. So fewer lens options may be an additional knock on the FM2.
The FM2 also has more camera shake . Shutter causing shake at 1/60 it’s ok at 1/125. F3 is ok at 1/60 no shake.
I’m shooting with f3 and it is amazing, but I’m thinking to get fm2 like a second body. Also because fm2 is very famous camera from Steve McCurry
So what do you do with a F3 when the electronics give out?
Get a battery grip
@Aaron NoneYa A modern digital shooter sends his camera in for repair can't do that with a F3 at least not with the electronic components. I won't recommend the small Nikons they don't hold up like a F2. Mine haven't held up well. Couple of years ago could pick them up for peanuts so when a FM or FE died no big deal. I often bought them for the lens that was on the camera. However they aren't cheap anymore. Strange thing my Olympus cameras hold up great even they don't appear as well made. Could be they were pro grade where the FM ect were consumer.
I want to ask something, i recently bought a nikon fm2n but the metering only shows the "-" on it, and always appear when i set the camera between 1/250 until 1/4000, although i already change another setting to make it not under exposed. Should i fix it and how, or just ignore and used a 3rd party light meter??? Thanks
You could take it to a local camera shop to have them look at it. But if I were you, I would just download a light meter app on my cell phone and use that instead.
Had to make the same decission and ended up buying a nikon fm3a. Very pleased with it!
Very cool! I haven't shot with the FM3A but I've heard that it's a fantastic camera. Hope you enjoy shooting with it. Thanks for watching!
Not only the F3 is the ultimate MF camera but it's, without any doubt, the most beautiful camera ever made.
As much as a love my F3, my FM2 is lighter, has a better shutter and is more compact. Of course, if you want to round out your Nikon collection, you need the F, F2, F3, F4 and F5 as well as the FM2, lol.
Why no love for the FM3a? It is IMO the pinnacle of Nikon manual film SLR's.
Mostly because I don't own one and haven't shot with one yet. So many cameras, so little time.
i have both, the F3 since 1988, the FM2 since 1989 !!
That's one way to do it :)
Had a fm3a , sold it … nothing but regret :(
I feel your pain bro :( Always sucks to sell a beloved camera. Luckily, it's possible to buy one again in the future at some point
If the locking mechanism on FM2 is annoying you, buy a motor drive for it. If I recall correctly, that solves that problem. If you don't mind the bulk that is :-)
+Tomislav Miletić Ha! I hadn't thought of that! Nice!
zove se MD-11 na moji FE2 @@DanBullmanPhotography
Good comparison but the differences they are pretty.
Had both, but sold my F3: I don't need a changable finder, don't have a need for 15 screens plus it's bigger & heavier.
I'm really new to cameras and I have a question hopefully anyone can answer but why do they get sold without the actual camera in the camera body
+Zardgaming 101 Hello and thanks for watching! I'd love to help. I'm not sure I understand your question. What do you mean by the "actual camera"? Are you asking why sometimes people sell the camera body without a lens?
which one you choose? nikon f3 or nikon f100?and why?
Probably the F3. It's my favorite Nikon camera I've used so far. I just love the feel of shooting with it and all the manual controls. The F100 is great if you need autofocus. I've shot a few rolls with the F100 but I just prefer the feel and functionality of the F3
so the f3 can't autofocus?
It cannot. There was an autofocus version of the F3 made in 1983 but it's fairly rare and only can autofocus with two specially built lenses for that camera. Whereas the F100 supports autofocus with most modern Nikon autofocus lenses.
Dan Bullman Photography which one more suitable for beginner for film?f100?
+Satya Yaya Both are excellent. I believe shooting with a manual focus is a great way to learn. I would go with the F3
This is like saying which is better for you a Ferrari or a diesel pick-up truck?
They are different cameras for different situations or styles.
You don't compare them, you buy and use them BOTH!
Fm2 or Fm2n?
If you compare the F3 with the FE2, all of the auto exposure factors favoring the F3 then disappear. Over the years, I had much more experience with the FM2 and FE2 than with my F3, but I think if i was forced to dump my F100 and use one or the other, I'd go with the F3 for its wealth of interchangeable screens and its various, superior viewfinders.
+Randall Stewart Yes I still haven't had a chance to try the FE2. I'll have to check it out. So many cameras, so little time!
I like having both :)
+KO Bossy Nothing wrong with that :)
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Thank Dan, this was really helpful.
I love the accessories of Nikon F3
Yes indeed! Lots of options :)
This is all kind of nonsense. I have an F4 an F3 an FA and an F301. The F301 was the first slr I ever bought 30 years ago so I'll always be sentimental about it. It's also very well built. It seriously doesn't matter which of these cameras you have. Your eye is the crucial factor.
The FM2 had a petty loud shutter, not sure about the F3.
Woah you have a commercial voice
If you compare the FE2 to the F3 you have a lot fewer niggles than the FM2. The FE2 does have an aperture priority mode and it does have long exposures out to 8 seconds built-in before moving to Bulb. Also, if you use the built-in timer on the FM2 or FE2 does that not also do a mirror lock-up function before the shutter is released? I suppose that would work best when using a tripod however. Love my FE2! Thanks.
I have had a FA and planning an FM2.....I think FA might be a better choice for budget(I got mine with $70 on ebay) but I still wanna buy a FM2.... No reason, just having fun
If you can afford to get both, then I see no reason why you can't get the FM2 as well. Could be a nice friend for your FA :)
I pay it just now and it cost me twice as much as my FA, literally......And it had been on the way :-P
Congrats on your new camera :)
Well....I returned the FM2 because its meter broken and film advance lever can wind more than once without release shutter. OH MY GOSH....
+jingtao chen That's a bummer!
I shoot with the Nikon f2
Did not watch the video, but there’s only one possible answer: F3
Its like comparing D5 and D7200
Thanks!
+askdhuwuw No problem!
It was not a hard decision for me because the F3 had one of the most important features I needed -- interchangeable viewfinders.
Even the Miranda Sensorex that I was using before my Nikon F, F2, F3, and F4 had interchangeable viewfinders.
Since I did a lot of medical/scientific photography, I really needed to be able to use a waist level viewfinder when mounting my camera to a microscope or a telescope. I needed to be able to use a sportsfinder while wearing protective goggles. I needed to use a magnified view finder when shooting macro subjects with a copy stand.
Fm2 > f2 > f3
Where would the f2as sit at ?