Is SeaWorld's New Coaster a Mistake? | Pipeline: The Surf Coaster
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- With SeaWorld Orlando premiering Pipeline: The Surf Coaster in 2023, how does it stack up against the coaster line-up for the park? In today's video, we're going to take a look at what the new coaster entails and determine whether it's the right fit for SeaWorld.
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I’m an Orlando resident, a roller coaster enthusiast, and a huge theme park fan (also a huge fan of your channel), and I think Pipeline is the perfect addition to Sea World Orlando! I rode it 5 times in a row and enjoyed it more each time. The feeling of standing air time is amazing, the layout is pretty fun and long enough, the theming is really good and looks awesome at the front of the park, and I found it to be a lot more comfortable than the other standup coaster I’ve been on. I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy the ride experience and I’m surprised you found it painful and nauseating! I get nauseous on a fair amount of rides and a few coasters, but I felt good on Pipeline!
Everyone I've talked to has said they loved it. I think it'll pay off for sure, more coasters in general are really what's keeping SeaWorld alive. I'm excited to try it.
Update: I rode is just yesterday and have to say it was an awesome ride. Unlike any coaster I've done before, the launches were great, the banking turns were more thrilling than expected, and the airtime was insane. I'm 6'1 and while the harness pushed a little in the collar bones it wasn't too uncomfortable and I still had crazy airtime. Definitely recommend trying this thing!
8.5/10 👌
Yeah, but that's a lot of thoosies and passholders. I'm still interested in the general reaction.
@Poseidon Entertainment That's true but sometimes pass holders and die hard fans are the hardest to please. Most park guests don't think too much about it all.
I wanna know why Sea World doesn't have more Water Rides and Water Coasters? Sea World is in the name theh gotta have more aquatic themed rides.
Because thats far too obvious for corporate execs to think of.
It's wierd because they name their rides after water based things and then don't really incorporate the theme into the ride at all. Ice breaker has no ice themed supports or rockwork, and this one has only loose water elements. If they actually had more water involvement it would really make their park standout as a water-ride park chain.
@@thedigiseviper1330 They proved they can nail theming too. Look at Wild Arctic or the Penguin area as examples. Both some of the best areas in the park theming wise.
But the new ones are just plain. Makes me sad.
What ride of theirs isn't aquatic themed?
@@verios44Its true. Castaway Cove in SD has excellent theming as well. The rapids ride goes through a shipwreck and passes live sea turtles. Its a great experience and a shame Sea World doesn't attempt theming like that anymore.
In my honest opinion, Pipeline is the second best ride in the park for me. It wasn’t super uncomfortable and the airtime was incredible and there were some intense positive G’s in the Helicies and that Launch is incredible. My little criticism was the actual vest restraint and not the bicycle seat. I hope we get more surf coaster models in the world.
I didn't find the restraint to be particularly comfortable either, though I do understand why it exists.
@@PoseidonEntertainment The Actual Bicycle Seat didn’t hurt my….well….you know. But the Vest Restraint did dig into my traps and it hurt a bit, but I would rather have kinda bruised Traps.
The vests need time to be broken in and then they will be more comfortable. This should be escalated in the Florida heat
@@bitcoin-investment The Vest Restraints can do that??
@@kyogresfunchannel yes that’s what happened to mantas as well
I have ridden pipeline as a annual Passholder, and the novelty feels like Manta in which I am in a different position (Not sitting) when I am riding, Its a fun concept and I really hope this coaster is successful, but it gets more unconformable after re-riding multiple times. I also personally think Sea-World should put more focus on a dark ride because they have none on their park now; But I can also completely understand why they want a much more rigorous expansion on roller coasters.
dark rides arent popular BGW proved it and they just turned BGW dark ride into a coaster
coasters is making seaworld alot of money right now
@@NickyD True, but I do see at least a small demand for indoor attractions, at least Seaworld has water rides though.
I agree that they should add dark rides, even if it's just a few. They would need to be better than Empire of the Penguin though. I considered that to generally be a waste of time.
I think that seaworld is doing a great job carving out a niche for themselves in orlando right now with the whole "coaster capital" angle. They simply cant compete with universal or disney when it comes to dark rides
I've ridden it as a pass holder. Rode it 11 times in one day. I love it! It's fun and unique and has some intense elements. It's not uncomfortable and the jumps and swinging your legs out make it a good time. It's a quality ride and a worthy addition to Seaworld!
It will be interesting to see how the general public takes to it
It's honestly one of the best coasters that B&M has released in recent years. It's a major success and it's one of my favorites out of over 400 coasters ridden.
A miss on this coaster is the lack of more water features around the track layout. The addition of other water jets that are timed to rise and lower with the coaster trains that move through certain sections such as the low to the ground banked turns or even under the launch bunny-hill would sell the illusion of "surfing" more along with the theme.
I agree, but I'm surprised that we got as much as we did.
My doctor won't allow me to ride any coasters anymore so I really appreciate your videos and riding them virtually.
I’m so glad you brought up the lack of theming. I went to sea world San Diego last November, boy talk about being the poor second cousin to Orlando. Emperor……gravel, bit of green, picnic seating and station I wouldn’t want to be working on during a Californian summer.
San Antonio is even worse lol
@@PoseidonEntertainment I’m just glad my sea world had money in the budget to build an immersive station for Leviathan, makes up for a lac lustre ride, don’t get me wrong it’s great to have a wooden coaster in Australia and it has airtime but that’s about all.
SD is second to Orlando despite being the first park. We joked when I worked there about it being the stereotyped step child.
It's is absolutely NOT a mistake. It's an absolute amazing coaster! I love it! It's something I'll keep riding over and over.
I'm not a fan of SeaWorld's new direction but I understand that they were under tremendous pressure to change directions so I have mostly gotten used to it. I'd still prefer them to focus a bit more on theming and continue to build dark rides. I miss Curse of DarKastle, though given that it isn't being replaced with a dark ride I think DarKoaster is about as good as I can expect. I'd also love for dark rides to replace Battle for Eire, Antarctica: Empire of the Penguin and the two Wild Arctic simulator rides but I don't think that'll happen. And BGT really ought to have some kind of dark ride or highly themed boat ride.
But that's not their direction so I've tried to not be so upset. And Pantheon is an incredible coaster despite being such a failure in terms of presentation. As for Pipeline, I think it was probably a good business decision. Most responses I've heard from coaster enthusiasts and the general public have been very good and it will draw a lot of attention. I only wonder why they switched to two across trains instead of B&M's traditional 4 across. You'd think a park like SeaWorld would have capacity as a major focus.
Have you seen Darkoaster!!!!
SeaWorld definitely does not focus on capacity. They unfortunately have some of the slowest ops I've ever seen in a park. The Pipeline team was moving quickly but I doubt it will be for very long.
Everyone who works the attraction is wearing something on their wrist that they scan on the side of the arm rest. Don’t know the purpose but it wouldn’t be possible with 4 across seating.
Thank you for pointing out the ongoing lack of theming and landscaping. It is directly related to budgeting but I'm a firm believer that if you can't afford to do something right, don't do it at all.
You just made my night with a new video
I really don't agree at all. I think this feels nothing like a traditional standup coaster as the sensation of really flying up out of the seat and loosing contact is a sensation uncomparable to any other coaster out there. Maybe somewhat like a wooden coaster with buzzbars but the standing and free movement of your bottom half makes it very different from that also. You're also the first one I have heard from who doesn't rank this in the parks top 3. Imo building this was a great decision and and much smarter than building Icebreaker. That ride is actually underwhelming and can't decide what it wants to be as the level of intensity is so uneven through the ride. Also Icebreakers trains SUCK.
I do actually hate Premier trains but for whatever reason, Icebreaker is a stand-out to me.
As a person who works at SeaWorld, and I have ridden Pipeline many have said it’s the best ride in the park. I also feel it is more of a risk for B&M more than SeaWorld
not a rsik for B&M when they make the reaible coasters in the industry for seawrold it is
@@NickyD it is when they are trying to bring back a controversial model that hasn’t been popular for over 20 years
This video is why I hate GP acting like they know things 😅
Pipeline is a vast improvement for standups
Hard disagree with your hot takes in this video. I never once slammed down on my crotch. Not sure what you were doing to have that happen to you? The seats slowly go back to the neutral position after the airtime moments.
I do agree with the lack of theming. The area could also use more shade.
Pipeline is my second favorite coaster in the park after Mako. I really want to see B&M build more of these, as they are a TOTALLY different ride experience from a stand up coaster. I think it was a great addition to SW's coaster lineup.
I can't say that it was different enough from Riddler's Revenge for me to really consider it anything other than a modified stand-up. It's kind of like comparing Kraken's floorless trains to Kumba and Hulk. Yeah they may technically be different, but not enough that I consider them different types of coasters.
@@PoseidonEntertainment interesting that you had such a different experience. To me this was nothing like Georgia Scorcher or Vortex. If you don’t mind me asking, how tall are you? I’m wondering if height played a factor here.
Why is it so hard for them to build 2 or 3 in door rides. Like a modern day simulator or dark ride. 2 or 3 small family rides would help make it feel like a complete park.
I agree, but coasters are so cheap. A dark ride would likely be an additional $60 million and even then wouldn't compare with Disney or Universal.
@Poseidon Entertainment but they dont need to compare to disney or universal. If anything do 2 small screen rides. They dont need to recreate technology. Use a cheap one and give guests and families more to do. Like the wild artic ride, they closed it and that's it. Even the penguin ride. I know they sre doing a new coaster there but still couldve small attractions to keep people busy.
It's because SeaWorld, despite their years spent charading as a theme park, literally don't know how to design or maintain something like a dark ride. Just look at the sad state Journey to Atlantis's show scenes are in. They probably removed the show scenes from the later versions of the ride because they knew they were too inept to do it correctly, so they just went with the bare bones experiences you see in San Diego & elsewhere. Their only attempt at a proper dark ride, Antarctica, was universally panned and is already closed despite being one of the park's youngest attractions.
If they tried doing a simulator, it would just be Wild Arctic 2.0. Pretty basic stuff, nothing innovative.
I still feel like they really need a traditional family coaster. Not a family thrill. A FAMILY coaster. Like Big Bear Mountain. Long, winding, etc. It looks awesome though, I'm going to go soon as a pass holder. Still disappointed they closed their Penguin dark ride. They definitely need to put more money into theming with their expansion budgets. Like, even $500k man.
The coaster going through Antarctica will likely fit that category.
Another great video and I enjoy hearing about other parks outside of Disney and Universal! You should make a video discussing the closing of the Star Wars Starcruiser hotel. I would really like to see what your opinion on the decision.
There's not really much to say on it that I haven't said already. I think it's an interesting experience but wasn't sustainable.
The theming on pipeline kinda gives me cedar fair vibes, like how they used to be a few years ago before they started theming their rides more
Yeah, which I think is a mistake for SeaWorld. They have the chance to distinguish themselves and they're just not doing it.
Pantheon definitely suffers from a lack of theming. I’m surprised there isn’t more invested into this since it would probably help make the area of the park more distinct. It would also probably help to sell merchandise if there was more of a story attached to the attraction. I’m really curious to see how future Sea World attractions will change and develop based on their more recent coasters.
I haven't been to BGW in quite a while, but I've heard that particular section of the park feels very off-putting with how unthemed it is compared to the rest.
The answer is Pipeline is a huge success, amazing coaster and EXACTLY what seaworld needed. 100% success.
It's not even open yet. We'll have to see how general park goers react.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I mean yes, but with passholders having ridden it, much of the population craving for another not so scary but still thrilling ride, it really is a knock out of the park. Also the best standup coaster in the world is enough clout to get people to spend a day at the park.
I loved Pipeline. I know what you mean about landing uncomfortably, it happened to me twice. The old ones don't do that. I think the bouncing seats are a fun, new and exciting experience that are an evolution in the Standup coaster experience. I couldn't get enough. Not every coaster has to be a stand out, world class thrill machine. Also this is an Orlando ride experience that can't be found anywhere else on earth, for now, which is a win. Its a prototype so the future ones will probably be more extreme. As a former ride operator at Mako, i can tell you that some of the most popular complaints were how the rides are too scary and they don't have enough rides for smaller kids and it's true. All of the big coasters are quite extreme. So this is a little more easy-going but thrilling and is a nice change from the usually blocked off Christmas pathway and adds a nice show of kineticism at the entrance. They have plans in the works for multiple major coasters as long as the funds are available. I initially thought the same that this is more of a filler addition, but those are bound to appear anyway so, hey at least it beauifies a couple of areas and we got a fun new B&M.🎉 idk maybe im easily amused by coasters but i thought it was great, still uncomfortable in new and inventive ways, but unique and great. Just like the old stand-up.
While not extreme, I do think it alienates a lot of families because the height requirement is still too high for a lot of kids. At least the new coaster going in Antarctica seems more family friendly.
@@PoseidonEntertainment yea it does, but SWO loves their B&Ms, and B&M loves SWO😄. Next thing you know all the coasters are 54" or taller for the most part. Pipeline just happens to be more approachable than the other B&Ms if you are tall enough...but not too tall since there's also a height limit 🙄. Yea the next coaster should be fun for the whole family. They want to be the coaster capital of Orlando so it should be interesting in the coming years, the things they build I mean.
I've ridden pipeline. As a coaster enthusiast who already enjoys standup coasters, I love the ride and prefer it to kraken and manta. Though the ride and area just feels off to me, like i'm not in a seaworld park. I can't tell if it's a good or bad thing, but the way that the rest of seaworld just has charm, the pipeline plaza just kind of feels corporate-y if that makes sense.
I agree. The area is under-developed and the coaster doesn't change that.
I just stood in line for an hour what makes u think I wanna stand up more
When you return back to the block zone, it's not particularly fun just standing there in the sun. This team was moving remarkably fast for SeaWorld ops but even then you're still sitting there for a good 2 minutes. Once the ride loses fast ops, you're probably going to be standing there for 5.
I loved riding Pipeline. I’ve currently been on it 7 times. I think it’s a wonderful ride and the slamming down from the airtime never hurt or bothered me in anyway. But I’m a short person, and I can see how some people might be bothered by that. I think it’s very fun with good thrills but not super intense. However, I’m probably a bit biased. I work as a scenic artist at seaworld; I’m on the team that painted all those new murals you had in the video. 😂so maybe take my opinion with a grain of salt but I genuinely enjoyed the experience.
Great job on the artwork though. It definitely adds a lot and I'm glad that SeaWorld saw its importance.
this is the first bad review I have heard of this coaster. everyone else seems to be surprised at how much fun it is
It may just be me then, but everyone experiencing it has either been a thoosie, passholder or media. I'm not surprised that it's getting good reviews. I'm curious to see how it will do within its first year.
Someone who hates the stand-up model. Not much you can do about that, just his opinion. I was happy to see it revitalized personally but that’s just me. I’m excited to see how it may have been improved as it was somewhat uncomfortable, especially for men.
At my local Seaworld (The one in San Diego) the theming of the Shipwreck Rapids is pretty decent, and far more than I expect from Seaworld. One of things I believe the company should focus on (Alongside balancing the different ride types available at each park) is giving major areas and coasters more theming on around that scale
I agree. They have the chance to stand out among CF and Six Flags and they just choose not to.
I haven't ridden Pipeline, but I do live in a part of California famous for its surfing (there's a surfing museum, surf championships, multiple surfing-related statues and other monuments, etc., all within 20 minutes of where I live). I've got to say, the theming looks dead-on to this region. The signs and such look like they were transplanted directly from the West Coast. Even the fonts look accurate. The coaster itself wouldn't look out of place at a pier amusement area, either. Most beach attractions here have fairly minimal theming; the beach itself is considered theme enough.
I don't know how much of the theming similarity was planned and how much was luck, but it looks ... more accurate than it should? It's only as theme-parky as the actual pier is (the pier has some theme-park vibes in addition to old men fishing off the sides). Odd choice for an actual theme park.
Hope that helps!
It does certainly give off a California vibe which is weird for SeaWorld, but it's not out of place either. I'll take what I can get in terms of theming.
What's interesting is that with Ice Breaker you can get gravel in a cold white color, it's not crazy expensive. Or just stamp concrete like cracking sheets of ice and paint it white. Yet no.
I find your video spot-on and the comments a little too flattering for my experience. Rode it yesterday and loved the music! The ride had shutdown for 30 minutes for repair and the updated surf tunes helped pass the time in line. For me, once I got onboard, I spent the ride squeezing my thighs together to prevent the impact of the center pad popping my crouch area (the three times my feet left the ground). A woman travelling with me expressed the same discomfort. I love SeaWorld and will continue to support it as a season pass member but I did not walk away from Pipeline jacked up like I did after some old favorites coasters and familiar animal shows.
Sheesh…some ppl are just never satisfied. Ppl were hating this coaster before even riding it. Want to talk about lack of theming? Then let’s discuss SixFlags shall we? I don’t understand why SeaWorld gets so much hate. They def have a solid lineup of coasters and given all the controversy from blackfish, I’m glad they’re giving us more and “different”. Pipeline is a great addition and the overwhelming majority of reviews on pipeline has been positive.
had similar thoughts on theming after visiting sea world san diego, emperor has such potential for something fun being at the back end of the park with a long strip of land leading to it. didn’t even consider that the loading was uncovered because it was a cloudier day, must be an unbearable line in the summer.
I've heard it's a really solid dive coaster which is why it's so disappointing. Seems like an easy win, but I think SeaWorld only cares about its Florida parks and Williamsburg.
Great Video! I wouldn't have gone to seaworld but now with this new coaster I'll be visiting again soon hopefully. The trains are super unique in how they move up & down & I really wanna experience that feeling for myself.
Just rode it today for the first time a an Orlando resident/passholder and my husband and I really enjoyed it. We were nervous at first but loved it and rode it again😁 I think it's a wonderful addition. Smooth and just the right amount of thrill for most theme park guests/families. Really enjoyed this coaster alot.
It feels like most enthusiasts found this better than expected. My only gripe is that even with a higher height req, it still seems like a family coaster, as did Icebreaker, as is whatever they are building now. I think the best way to stand out in Orlando is by the more intense coasters. They need something for everyone, but 3 tame coasters in a row?
I agree. It seems like a family coaster in terms of intensity like Cheetah Hunt but that height requirement is holding too many people back.
I've ridden 7 stand up coastes inclding pipeline and I found it vastly more comfortable than any of the others. That said, like Poseidon Entertaiment said, the layout is not the most intresting. I found myself saying if I could ride with those seats on a layout like Georgia Scorcher or a big one like Riddler's Revenge I would like those even more. If a park were to buy a surf coaster with a larger layout similar to older stand ups I'd be all over it!
I cannot even express how much I hope that since no one really seems to want it to be floorless, that Georgia Scorcher can actually be converted in a sense to have this kind of seating.
@@oneandonlysound3453 Georiga Scorcher is still my favorite stand up!
I have to wonder if the bouncing restraints would work on a different layout though. Would something like RR be too intense and is the layout of Pipeline designed specifically to accommodate movement?
It has been so long since I was last at SeaWorld, I honestly didn't recognize 75% of the footage you shared. If I ever get the chance to go back, I'm definitely going to be missing out on a few things because 1 day doesn't feel like enough from the looks of things.
I actually think that 1 day is more than enough if you go when it's not busy. If you go during a weekday on the off-season, you can pretty much walk onto everything.
@@PoseidonEntertainment So I recently had family move from across the country to Central Florida, and I was able to go to the park on a free ticket that came with their annual passes, and we were almost able to do everything we could/wanted in 1 day. The rain kind of took an hour out of it, and of course they insisted on eating at a place that took another hour, and they all hated the food while I was still satisfied from my Panini just outside Mako earlier in the day, but it was fun. Speaking of food, Chicken Pesto Panini was phenomenal for what I was expecting for theme park food. Great size for the cost, but even the flavor was great! I'd have ordered that at a traditional restaurant if I had the opportunity.
Right when the park opened, we did Pipeline, and the line was so short we did it back to back. Not bad except for the second time through where the second train was having a problem at the station and we sat out in the sun waiting for 15 minutes for them to unload and launch so they could get it out of our way and finally continue the rest of our day. I experienced a bit of what you were saying about slamming down, but I was always able to keep at least one foot in place and I feel like that greatly diminished the discomfort if it ever occurred. I was weirdly concerned at how understaffed the cues were for the coasters though. We never had a good chance to do Ice Breaker, so I don't know if that had a similar staffing issue, but only Manta had someone directing you where to go. Now maybe it was the heat and a bit of dehydration, but Manta kicked my ass. I wouldn't say that I get motion sick either, and the ride itself was actually quite fun except for me almost losing my glasses, but the worst part was leveling back out, that made me nauseous. We did Kraken immediately after and I had no problem, but again, nobody was directing you were to go. On the one hand, every ride seemed to kind of have a dedicated front row line, and since that was never really our priority, it made getting a seat easier and greatly shrank the wait time, almost like the self checkouts at stores, but at the same time, you have people that want to ride together, and can't count. Like, sorry guys, you're holding up the line, you're going to have to break up or get out of the way. At least Kraken has numbers on the floor, I think it wouldn't be as big of an issue if that were common practice at the other rides if you're not going to have someone direct. It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing.
Concerning whether or not Pipeline is a great addition to SeaWorld, I can't really say, I'm not a coaster buff, but given its theme and the surrounding area, it didn't feel out of place. If I have any real discrepancy, it has to do more with just the navigation of SeaWorld. It's not exactly a nicely well laid out park when you try cramming in all these coasters. While Pipeline can be seen just outside the entrance of the park, getting to it was a lot more work than seemed necessary. You had to make a series of turns and even go down a few steps or cut through a restaurant to even get there. Made the waiting time shorter, but since they don't have physical maps you can carry around anymore, and I don't have a phone that can download the app (only one person in our group of fie had the app), it's not exactly intuitive how to navigate the park. After Pipeline, we were trying to make our way to Kraken, and wound up all the way out to Mako, which hey, fantastic ride, but whoops! They're not even close to one another when considering their entrances despite how close the rides' tracks run by one another. Not really much you can do about since it's my choice living in the stone age, but even if there was always room to expand from when I was last there in the mid 2000s, the way the park is laid out just isn't as conducive to how much they're putting in it. Pipeline took a portion of road that was once part of the parking lot, and any future expansions are going to have to do the same, only making navigation worse because the park just was never really initially designed for what it is today.
But all in all, it was fun day, and I'd do Pipeline again no problem.
Rode it several times on passholder preview weekend and loved it. The general consensus from everyone I rode with was that they loved it.
Rode it a few days ago for passholder preview, I enjoyed it. Yeah hurt my man hood but picking my legs up and getting the full bounce on the hills was awesome. I will agree I felt nauseous but I sat in the back for my vlog. I think it will do well but won’t draw the crowds after a few weeks when Roller coaster fans get their rides in.
I rode in the front, middle and back and definitely felt that nausea specifically in the back too.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I’m going back and getting a few rides in on different seats
I think what you said nailed it perfectly. Coaster enthusiasts are liking it, as most youtubers are ignoring the negative aspects, but will this ride actually draw non-enthusiasts to the park? I really hope so, because I love Sea World and want them to succeed, but I'm skeptical about this ride being the best choice to draw the non-youtube-enthusiasts. I think their next coaster will.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan same I love Seaworld and enjoy going when I can so let’s hope the future is bright for them! But I agree the new coaster will definitely draw the crowds
Thanks for the heads up -👍 yes, these tides are so subjective . In my case- I😢I opt out. I’m one with low tolerance for being thrashed about😀
I'm a complete wimp when it comes to coasters, and rides in general, so admitibly I'd probably never ride this. However I can appreciate that it isn't as intense as most of the other SeaWorld coasters. When all of the money and effort goes to the most epic, thrilling, intense roller coaters, it really alienates people like me. Also that new penguin themed coaster sounds like it could be fun!
I think SeaWorld knows that it can capture thrill seekers, but I agree that the park needs to be more family oriented. It needs a few shows and calm dark rides.
As a OLD guard Seaworld Orlando attendee, I simply cannot look at this park and call it SeaWorld. It has changed soo much and most for the worst in my eyes. Dont get me wrong I LOVE roller coasters. But this park has lost its soul.
They do have more aquariums than ever though. They absolutely have some of the best in the world.
Great video! Thanks for showing off such an unusual coaster; granted it really does fit in with Seaworld park ocean theming for the park. A surfboard coaster is very nice; would love to see Disney parks and/or Universal parks integrate stand-up coaster with their theming. For example having a stand-up Veloci-coaster would have been cool. These days, the ride is only half the battle!
I think a stand-up coaster might be too inaccessible for Universal's more family oriented crowd. A standing Velocicoaster would be interesting, but I think it would turn off too many park goers.
@@PoseidonEntertainment What do you mean by "inaccessible?" Because I can tell just by looking at them that Universal's coasters are already more intense than this, so that must not be what you mean. Or are you referring to the actual accessibility of the ride, ie the fact that disabled people & guests over a certain height cannot ride? Because a park like SeaWorld having such a ride, with no alternative accommodations, is still very much a problem, there's just no one talking about it. I don't think I've ever seen an Orlando park open a major attraction with such strict limitations on who can ride and who cannot, but no one is discussing it from that angle.
Despite its ongoing identity crisis and trying to market itself as "the Six Flags of Orlando," I'm sorry, "the coaster capital of Orlando", SeaWorld still attracts much the same family demographic as the other Orlando parks. It's always been a family-oriented park. They should still be casting a wide net instead of trying to appeal only to able-bodied coaster enthusiasts, but they aren't, because they were an animal park that chose to grovel to ignorant activists who ruined their public image, and now they don't have the budget or know-how needed to reinvent themselves as anything more than just another coaster park. It's a sad state of affairs, and one they should not be settling for.
Of the Sea World coasters the only ones I could ride all day are Mako and Pipeline,Pipeline is just unique and fun with Mako being a traditional hyper coaster with nice airtime.
This video feels like one big hot take
are you just not landing on your feet after airtime?? because if u land on your feet you shouldnt hurt ur crotch.
the seat moves up and down so not only are your feet going down but sometimes the seat moves up, you can imagine how that feels I’m sure
You don't necessarily land on your feet before hitting the seat
Man I’ve been checking your channel daily for a starcruiser failure video, I feel like I need one from you to really understand what’s goin on here. 🙏 please make one!
I don't think there's much to speculate on. The experience just wasn't sustainable for the price and the low volume of people who attended it. Did you watch my actual Starcruiser video from when it opened? I lay out the experience and you can see why it wasn't sustainable.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I just watched ur original starcruiser video again and I do see what you’re saying. I do think that this is fun speculation for a future Disney project , they surely aren’t going to scrap the whole star cruiser so I’m curious how they will integrate it back into the parks once it reopens. I think they should add more “moderate” and less immersive rooms rooms and make this experience larger thus hopefully bringing the price down quite a bit. Also, scrap the shows and missions and just make a unique themed Disney resort. It would be nice to incorporate something into it that only guests of the star cruiser get to enjoy that’s makes it worth wild like perhaps a small immersive character dinner or something unique.
Never been to Seaworld Orlando, but I see this coaster as being a middle tiered (not as extreme coaster) ...
I appreciated your commentary on the theming as the experience is magnified and more memorable. The landscaping, picket fence and water feature are complimentary and better than other non attempts.
When walking the gauntlet of long queue lines it's nice to have some visual interest ... more than a TV monitor with advertisements. I like the integration of animal attractions with the ride and queue line experience. An early example Busch Garden Van Nuys had their log ride go through an aviary aka a jungle environment.
Another great video ... would like to see a deep dive into queue lines ...
As a coaster enthusiast, I think this is a super exciting addition and I hope it turns out well for both B&M and Seaworld. Obviously I’m biased, but it’s absolutely enough to draw me to the park. I think the layout is interesting and uses the unique ride mechanisms to its advantage. After riding riddlers revenge at Magic Mountain, I think that standups have a lot more potential than I previously thought- this one included. I share the concern for GP reception, though. Here’s hoping it’ll turn out alright!
Its strange to me the narrator says the coaster was dropping him on his crotch. I have especially short legs and I remember when I rode it I was absorbing that force with my legs and knees which was totally comfortable.
That being said it definitely felt gimmicky and the experience felt just "good enough".
I'm curious if the stand up position and restraints are leading to a lot of variation in ride experience based on rider's body shape, height, etc. that are leading to the conflicting reviews.
Poseidon entertainment SeaWorld vids >>>>
The fact there's such a disconnect that the logo figure is not even facing the way riders will says a lot.
Wasn't it discovered that the figure is just clip art? I thought I recalled something like that when it was first revealed.
@@PoseidonEntertainment did not know that lol
Can’t say that would make me go to the park. However, the manta description sounds like a fun time
Manta may not be the best flying coaster, but it's such a good experience because of how it's integrated into the park.
i understand the sentiment of wanting these rides to have more theming, but personally, i have come to not expect theming from parks other than universal, disney, or busch gardens. sea world has never been about theming and it’s clear their purpose for the park is currently to provide a lot of high quality thrills. if they were to provide complex theming for every attraction the park would be much less affordable and new additions would be much farther and fewer between
A roller coaster being a pelvic nightmare? This sounds like Green Lantern: First Flight all over again.
It's not a pelvic nightmare. I don't know what Poseidon Entertainment is talking about.
I have not ridden it yet, but my impressions of it are in complete agreement with everything you said. When I saw the bouncing seats in the animation, I thought that looks terrible for guys. I wasnt sure if being lifted by our crotch or landing on our crotch would hurt more. I prefer the way the old stand-ups are, where the perch locks in place, and I can get it low enough to not cause any crotch issues. However, when I ride Pipeline, I may find out that it works for me after all, but I'm not all that excited for it. I don't expect it to make my top 4 in the park.
It wasn’t uncomfortable for me. I wish it was longer and I wish the corkscrew went over the entrance like gate keeper at cedar point.
Love your videos! Great work!
It’s a solid addition
I've been really enjoying the way you highlight decorations now. If you ever manage to visit some parks in Europe I'd highly recommend you visit Phantasialand as well. Their theming is some of the best Europe has to offer and it's all wrapped in a neat small space (the actual park is pretty small!)
I think you'll find yourself surprised by some of their family rides as well since, speaking from experience, some of them are actually quite a bit longer than what other parks offer (Efteling, Europapark) and regularly go a whole lot faster than you'd expect.
I think this video and the weird side of disney both show that you appreciate the additional effort in these parks which is really fun to watch (as I share this interest :P )
EDIT: Of course I had to remember _after_ posting this that you have made a video about it so you're fully aware that it exists :P In any case, the recommendation still stands for if you ever visit!
"Not so different from a regular stand-up coaster" - well, there hasn't been a new stand-up coaster manufactured since 1999. I found the stand-up coasters I've ridden to be less bad than I thought they'd be (except Vortex at Carowinds which sucks and is taking up valuable real estate), so I'm excited for this. And as you said, it's an upgrade from 2022's "Six Flags early 2000s big unthemed rides" style additions. I'm waiting for Florida's political climate to be less hostile before I plan my Orlando/Tampa trip, though.
This actually does remind me that I haven't been to Sea World in ages. I'm planning a Disney trip with my family for 2024, and I may have to think about adding on a day there. I do love coasters.
It's a fun time if the park isn't busy and you can walk on to all of the rides. As long as you avoid weekends, it's not likely to be busy.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Thanks! Unfortunately it'd be a Saturday due to the structure of the Disney trip...but it'd be in September.
It takes some getting used to, my first 2 rides were like a struggle to have some sense of comfort, and the seat is very hard and uncomfortable. The vest restraint uselessly pushes into your collar bones and leaves everyone sore in that area. Once I stood in it right and tried to land on my feet after the airtime moments I felt more comfortable. I was left sore in a few places as well as bruised on my biceps, I'm guessing from putting my hands up and having my arms hit on the restraint. I have had 21 rides so far, I'm not an expert, but even when I thought I had it figured out where it wouldn't be uncomfortable, there were still some not so pleasant rides in the "seat area." It's a different experience for sure than normal, but I still thought it was fun.
I felt that soreness as well, it reminded me of riding Manta on repeat. Granted, I think it's more comfortable than Manta at least.
Glad there is a water effect + some theming. Interesting re-boot of an attraction. Hope the nausea inducing sensation was just a fluke. I heard the airtime is fun. Maybe in future models the "kinks" will be ironed out.
Yes so exciting when a new video from Poseidon is waiting!! I'm intrigued to ride this new coaster, but am definitely less excited hearing the ride experience may be less than comfortable
I wouldn't describe it as painful or anything, just not very comfortable to stand in.
I’m already going to Florida, But since COVID Sea World has not added very many rides, and I was not thinking about going. Since there now adding a lot more rides I’m definitely really excited to go there.
I hope overtime they add more rides with more theming but right now, I’m just excited to have new rides.
There was a time when Iron G and Ice Breaker were just sitting there for like 2 years and we weren’t sure if they would ever open
I have to wonder how much theming their Antarctica coaster will have. I'm hoping that it lets out into the penguin exhibit.
I do enjoy the theming, but I’m also mainly going for the coasters and then going to universal for the good theming
I have very little interest in the coaster from the point of seeing the first POV before being built and I still don’t.
you height is important when determining your experience on this ride
I'm 6' 3" 🤷♂
If this had a more exciting layout like the other stand-ups, your legs would feel like they are gonna break like the other stand-ups. If you've done one of B&M's older stand-ups, you'll see why they made the choices that they did with this one
I love that leg-crushing feeling of the old stand-ups. It's such a fun sensation to feel positive forces through the legs, at least for me, as long as I got that perch low, and the perch locks in place.
I think the special seats and "surf" thing is just a gimmick to get people to give standups a chance again, this time with a better, more airtime focused layout (even Chang/GL's straight drop had no airtime).
Nice vid. I feel they should have put Pipeline at SD instead of Orlando due to our surf culture, and SD is height-locked.
Everyone is loving this. The coaster makes sense to their line up. Everyone I have talked to have been loving the new gen stand up trains. Comfortable minus the vest portion as some say its been quite a tight fit. The layout is great and the scenery looks great. Im not a stand up coaster lover but the train design and from what I heard of how comfy they are, I have no doubt this was a great fit. It wasn't meant to be some super thrilling ride and we knew that long ago. Overall, no I dont think it was a mistake and judging from your experience and being nauseous on it, it may just a bit of a bias statement. Just my two cents.
Interesting concept for a ride. Wonder if it would be better if the riders were rotated 45 or even 90 degrees to the path of travel to be in more a surfboard position?
A lot of people were speculating that you might be standing sideways before it was revealed. That definitely could be interesting.
In my opinion, i think pipline is better than manta… This ride has a strong launch and the seats moving is so fun to lift your legs up. I also found out that if you just adjust if you know what i mean right before the ride your golden
That is unnecessary amount of hate towards the ride this is the only channel I have herd complain about this ride
i think future surf coaster will be even better as this was only a prototype
I just want seaworld to focus on aquariums and conservation tbh....
My 3rd favorite ride at my park. I feel like it’s a coaster you have to know how to ride to get the best out of it. There is a trick to avoid getting slammed on you’re nether region. Other than that issue which can be mitigated it has the potential to be my #2 at sea world but not my #1 since Mako exists lmao.
Seaworld passholder, ive got 3 rides on Pipeline so far. It's a bit of a one trick pony, but it's a good trick! And that's understandable considering this is an industry first model
Haven't ridden it but looks more comfortable than Riddlers revenge & different
I like it! Something different
Just rode it today and it was incredibly fun. Both rides were in the back and were way more intense than I was expecting as far as positive G's go and the experience of standing airtime is super unique. I didn't experience any pain or discomfort regarding the standing position, while stationary or in motion (the gentlemen were unharmed). It's a very re ridable coaster much like Ice Breaker and Mako. You'll also probably only land on your crotch if you decide not to land on your feet. Overall a super fun ride and a pretty good fit in my opinion.
I’ve always enjoyed a stand-up
Ok you need to stop nitpicking. I have ridden it 11 times in front and back row and in the middle. Not once has it felt uncomfortable or bad at all. And the landscaping they have done for this ride is incredible. It is one of the most pure fun roller coasters in the world just enjoy it for what it is.
It's odd to me how much people care about theme on thrill coasters.
The last thing I'm thinking about or worried about while flying over a hill or going through an inversions is some sort of cheesey prop.
The ride experience is always more important than theme. If people want themed stuff they should to got Disney which is heavily themed & made for kids.
Thrills > Theme every day of the week.
Naw Pipeline is incredible Instant classic
We'll see 🤷♂
I go to Orlando a lot for Disney and I keep seeing this advertised in the airport but I’ve done a standing coaster before and I don’t really think I need to experience it again.😭 If I go, I’ll ride it but there are much better rides at sea world than this and standing coasters are just uncomfortable. I think it’ll turn off a lot of the gp which is most people because there are few of us that are enthusiasts willing to ride anything.
great ride but honestly i couldn't ride it more than 2-3 times in a day, the restraints pressing on my collarbones was horrible
I've NEVER had a bad ride experience on Mantis at Cedar Point, or any of B&M's earlier Standup Rollercoasters. It's all About Standing Up Correctly. I never had any discomfort with my Family Jewels 🤣
My guy there is nothing wrong with ride it’s a improvement but I understand your opinion
I'll never understand why the Florida Busch/Sea World parks choose to not have indoor rides in a state where summer Temps get into the high 90s!!!
Could they make so people were sideways? You know, like surfers or is that too dangerous? I think that and more water effects into the ride could have make it a bit better
Id ride it. I love inversions. I wonder if Sea World still has the free wine and beer tastings. 😊
Looks fun, but goes on the increasing list of coasters that I'll never physically fit on (too tall)...
At least it didn't take 5+ years to build like Tron or the never ending construction at EPCOT.
Wow, I think your way off base with your review of Pipeline. We just did our preview this past wknd, and we all loved it. My expectations were low going in, but my ride experience was great and I didn't feel any discomfort with the bicycle seat. Mako is still the #1 coaster @ SW. But I would put Pipeline @ #2. This is a great addition to the park IMO.
What a cool way to scare the hell out of the animals
Yep, did not need this.
A dark ride is what’s needed.