How Overpowered Were Jaden's Manga Cards? | Yu-Gi-Oh!
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"He's basically a mistake on legs."
Same.
😂😂😂😂😂
He also says that monster is a fantastic card. Mistake cuz it doesn’t let both players to do too many draws with is good for control. Dark law is better cuz it is one sided on your opponent. But still a normal monster that can negate summons is kinda broken for the time.
Out of the manga exclusives in jaden's deck I love how, he has a spell that searches any spell in his deck at no cost, and he only uses it once, to perform a convoluted fusion summon
fusion birth! I know that manga chapter is insane... this is neither nor my hand or feel I'm fusion summoning from my deck!!
How'd you like the only appearance of Ma'at?
Must be limited 🤔
Fusion birth may be a convoluted summon in a sense, but we do have cards that fusion straight from the deck graveyard, and might as well have those effects like Verte, tbh I find it a little more balanced in a way because it's near random.
Manga Judai: Better cards.
Anime Judai: Better development.
There's no wrong preference.
Similarly: Anime: better main character (in the long run).
Manga: better side characters (from the beginning).
Anime: better character arcs.
Manga: better story.
in the anime he matured over time, in the manga he was mature from the get go
manga is better than anime in my opinion
What creative people think of: Why not continuing GX and make a plot where he uses masked Heroes and at the end Judai fights against Yugi and finally becomes King of Games
this would combine the 2 best things into one
@@hero9801
Because Yugi is the king of games.
Jaden is overly lucky.
Yugi can literally pull what he needs when he needs it.
His fusions were revolutionary. When they realized they could loosen up the requirements for fusions, that was when fusion summoning became a legitimate path to victory. Being released after synchros came out help, I think. That Super Poly was a thing was just icing on the cake.
It also got Future Fusion banned and not off the ban list until it got nerfed.
Non-strict Fusion Materials is game changing, and I think it sort of signified Yu-Gi-Oh! as an actual card game instead of a lore-based, RPG-wanna-be card game.
@@deproissantOop, not you dragging Yugioh 😭
"This thing is basically a Mistake on legs" does not sound very positive when said out loud.
Yea but most cards that are good are described busted, broken or mistake lol.
I mean to be fair, it should be a mistake that mistake was made if you think about it
It barely has legs!
I think the reason Jaden's deck is so different between Manga and Anime is someone else wrote the manga and basically did whatever the hell they wanted with it, including making up new cards. Then since HEROs were so popular they also made them real cards iirc
I liked how Winged Kuriboh got a central role in the manga plot.
@@thatman666 I love how big of a role Chazz played as well
@@baileydombroskie3046 The only manga that came before was DuelMonsters. All other ygo series came first on anime form
@@baileydombroskie3046 tbf, it's very normal for anime to come after mangas or light novels, rarely will you see it the other way around, but yugioh is kind of weird due to how it's handled.
My gut would be that it was an executive decision to create more cards to sell than just the exact same things...but then the Zexal manga kept the core three of Yuma, Shark and Kaito using largely the same ace monsters (Utopia and Galaxy-Eyes Photon in particular), so...I dunno. Granted, it had the same writer as the showrunner for the Zexal anime _(and way _*_too much_*_ else...),_ but still.
Jaden was probably the first Anime character who actually played Yu-Gi-Oh! and not some game that vaguely resembled Yu-Gi-Oh!.
With that mindset, you must _love_ Vrains.
@@christopherb501
I haven't actually watched it.
I am watching 5Ds, which is pretty good. They still have that normal summoning in defense position thing though, which irritates.
From what little I've seen of it VRAINS seems to be Speed Duels played with Link monsters.
@@christopherb501 the new ones are just not that good. GX and 5ds are the best 2 after one of them dm.
@@Christ_the_only_way Spoken like a person who never watched Zexal 2 or Sevens.
@@christopherb501 i watched. Zexal is a dissapointment... At the end its a cheaper version of Judai/yubel
And sevens? Sevens?! The sevens anime is for seven years old. The rules are simple, to simple. The character looks like me when I was 5. The plot is trash, what i have heared from pros, also.The only cool thing in zexal are the xyz monsters, Its the only new shit they got right.
Its so funny how you really wanna say that zexal is good, especially sevens. HAHAHAHA, you living in Kindergarten?
Please do a how good were zane's cards!
I mean Ryou has Cyber Dragon which I think was good at multiple points
Zane is one of only two GX duelists who got a big-deal deck upgrade that gave him a WORSE deck.
The other, oddly enough, is Jaden.
@@EinDose Jaden got an actual upgrade albeit it felt more like a replacement not only did Zane have a strategy but he was worse even when he went back to Cyber Dragons
Short answer, actually pretty decent. Back in the day, even some of his more "pathetic" cards were actually pretty good back in the day, like Cyber Phoenix. However, overtime the "Cyber" archetype evolved into the "Cyber Dragon" archetype, which has a reputation for being a deck that can consistently stay prevalent as a rogue deck.
Yeah cyberdark tier 0 best deck no questions asked
One of the most satisfying combos is absolute zero into acid for the board wipe
I actually pulled this of against a striker player on my locals last week. This and OTKing with Trinity are some of the most satisfying plays ever and a big part of why I love this deck so much.
And if you have dark law on the field you banish all his board. Too good
@@nachocanoura2715 yep
@@baileydombroskie3046 I said “one of” so it’s fine if u find other HERO combos fun. I mainly run E HEROs in the main deck with some D HEROs sprinkled in. My extra deck is mainly focused on the Omni-Elementals and the Masked HEROs but I do have D HERO Dominance and Evil HERO Malicious Bane plus two of the links.
That like the frosting on the cake. Spread that Absolute Zero.
Realized that I thought jaden would have used a hero lives, but it turns out it was only used by another character from the manga who also played heros
his mentor, his friend and the one that gave him his heroes to begin with... Koyo Hibiki!!
@@Ahloveyafuhso Would be sick to make a part 2 of GX or maybe an OVA special taking place after duel academy. After Jaden meets Yugi and Yusei. We have Jaden entering a world tournament and has to duel his mentor who gave him his Elemental Hero deck. And his mentor will be using the Masked Hero cards. Along with others entering the tournament can be Syrus, Alexis, Atticus and many others. It will be an awesome reunion.
@@Ahloveyafuhso Or maybe for the anime version, Koyo Hibiki will use the manga Elemental Heroes instead.
@@TheDayd111returns well that would be nice at least we still got the ending of the gx manga closest thing.. to that..
probably have tons to talk about casual to competitive wise with zane/kaiser ryo anime and manga, dude played EVERY op machine card back in the day to shit machine cards too. mad lad will also be getting a cyber style structure deck next year too!
Honestly I have never had more fun playing a Rogue Deck then I have playing HEROs. Especially cause my friend plays zombies so he *HATES* Dark Law.
And hero hate zombie world lol
@@controlenjoyer5873 almost every Hero card doesn't care if they're zombie type. Since they just require a "HERO" to be in the cards name.
@@JarbElemental yeah honestly the only thing that sucks is Rivalry Lock but that only really sucks if it happens too soon
@@JarbElemental Cross crusader needs 2 warrior monsters to be link summoned
@@baileydombroskie3046 yeah but it's a really important one that sees competitive play. Zombie world has screwed me but then I call the big homie trinity 🤣
Great video. Jaden was an awesome protagonist in GX
Elemental hero’s are still one of my favorite archetypes of all time. Mudball Man just hits different!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
The game has certainly moved on a bit. Remember how long Stratos was banned, and Tour Guide was limited, and now they're at three and people are just, like, yeah, they're thing.
Power creep is real. Stratos was really powerful back in the day until it got banned. A super Gadget on steroids was the best way to describe it at 3. Tour Guide was also released not too long before a time Xyz monsters became a thing and a 1 card Rank 3 was a strong play. I mean. It's still technically a 1 card Link 2 now so yeah.
Ah Jaden, the best boy of the series. He’s way too understated and could use a revisit.
Best character development too
@@ExistentHope
No question, he grew the most out of all of the protagonists.
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YU GI OH GX 2 PLZ
@@joshackroyd500
If only that were possible.
Elemental HERO Inferno had another effect to add 1 spell from GY to hand when it is destroyed.
Lol some of the manga cards were buffed in the irl game.
Stratos Manga: Half atk to attack directly
Ocean Manga: Atk Directly while Umi is on the field
Absolute Zero Manga: 500 atk for every water monsters you control thats it.
Mask HERO Blast: Half Atk thats it.
They Nerfed
Core
Inferno
Flash
Voltic and Ice Edge
@@soukenmarufwt5224 elemental hero flash was mof when sent to grave.
if you haven't already, how about "how OP were zane trusdale's cards". he was one of my favorite characters.
"The Shining" was just a combo piece for Electrum FTK deck...
You mean Gaia. Shining wasn’t used in that strategy. At least that I am aware of. With Fusion gate and chain material set, fusion electrum 2x, xyz Gustav, fusion Gaia. Repeat. Shining can miss timing, so it is not used for the otk.
Did you miss all of the Hero Beat decks that topped YCSs? They didn't use Electrum
@@Dzeeff He is talking about an first turn kill deck that uses elemental hero electrum because he is an level 10 monster (to summon Gustav), not any competitive strategy.
@@micahhumes7312 I thought they meant the Electrum Blaze Fenix FTK where Electrum is used to reset the banished cards by Chain Material
@@TheWizardMus I didn't think of that
Legacy of a hero was busted in the manga.
It read "Activate only if you have 2 or more Level 4 or higher "Elemental Hero" monsters in your Graveyard. Draw 3 cards"
They didn't have to be fusion monsters and you didn't have to return them to the extra deck.
Dark Law keeps Heroes in the meta practically on his own.
I was gonna ask if Jaden didn't play the Vision HEROs, but I looked it up and it turns out it was Aster Phoenix, not Jaden. So he's got both Destiny HEROs and Vision HEROs, his decks were kind of amazing tbh.
Vision HERO in the TCG are pretty terrible though.
@@SamSepiol1909 Vyon and Faris were both very good cards
The D-HERO engine was strong for a while. The archetype as a whole wasn't amazing though but it had enough. Destiny End Dragoon was fun to abuse with Fusion Gate and Chain Material though.
And in both, Aster is one of the few characters to beat Jaden.
@@SamSepiol1909 The vision hero engine is insane in hero decks.
A review of Crowler’s deck would be pretty cool.
id like to see more videos on the manga decks
I think that alligator guy in GX unironically used Neptune, and tragodia was a character but id like to hear you just... do a whirlwind tour of the GX manga staples
Neptune is broken beyond belief because of its Level and ability to photocopy effects as its own without any real drawbacks.
You should do how good were Yusei’s cards from the manga
i would like to see a video about infernity cards / kalin from 5ds
I think I'll jump into this trend to see if it happens one day, probably not... but I like these dudes.
Day 1 of waiting for new Good Crashbug support.
No
U go man!
Normal monster support is needed make it meta.
Happy holidays Doug!
Elemental Hero Thunder Giant + Elemental Hero Mudball Man = ULTIMATE UNBEATABLE COMBO!!! 🙌🏾🔥
**plays dark ruler no more**
@@abstraction6212 what?
He should do the barian number cards next and how well they did in the past
I'd suggest Noah Kaiba next. Jaden/Judais my favorite yugioh protagonist. Both Jadens anime and manga deck have some good cards. My hero deck focuses on Neos but I run a few cards like Stratos, Mask Change, Dark Law and a hero lives.
Heros FTW
KFC is my favorite food
Noah had Yata-Garasu. What more needs to be said?
@@ShiningJudgment666 Asura Priest, Giant rex, Yamata dragon, chrion the mage, fisure and dark hole. Noahs video would be shorter but could be fun.
@@MichaelSD91 Would certainly be a diverse one to consider, if nothing else.
aqua Neos was just broken, "discard 1 card, destroy 2 random cards in your opponents hand", like bruh, that's why i love using an Elemental Hero Neos Deck.
edit: also, the elemental lords are kind of underrated
Idk where you got the 2 for destruction it's only 1.
@@cuauhtemocgonzales2530 anime/manga version
He's hand's down the strongest duelist from the Yugioh Manga!
Please do the Yugioh 5DS Jack Atlas next! And you forgot all about Masked Hero Dian, and also Masked Hero Koga too in your Jaden Yugi Manga cards video!
It would be interesting to hear a take on the Gold Sarcophagus of Light deck/Yugi's manga cards
Last time I came this early I saw Datascape Ruirui for the first time.
The gx manga is my favorite manga of all time, idk why. I even have it above the likes of one piece. Anyway I appreciate this video :)
sick video Dzeeff! I always have time for these kinds of videos
I love heros, heros for life.
Heroes
I'd really like to see a review of the planet series of monsters. I've liked those card ever since I saw them in the anime, but the anime didn't go into them too much
I'm waiting for the day we get some Masked Hero main deck monsters (as there's a couple in the manga). The only thing most hero players want is a Negate, but Heroes already have a solid Negate. Too bad is a Fusion monster made by 2 "Fusion" monsters.
Even if we got 2 Vanilla Masked Heroes main deck monsters, Contrast Hero Chaos could be a more viable option.
Yes, rescue rabbit into number 60 to detach both, then combo into miracle fusion for contrast hero
We have dark angel and plasma for negate they're pretty good but need à lot of ressources and without protection. An omni negate would be too beautiful for be real😂😂
Honestly if they do release main deck masked hero monsters I hope they do it in a structure deck, maybe for like a gx anniversary type thing.
I always wanted them to make Trap Fusion
A video about Shuin Kurosaki/Shay Obsidian's cards would be cool. (Just to keep things easier to google, I guess: he's the reason Ultimate Falcon exists)
Moral of the story is they had to nerf Jaden in the anime so Yami-Yugi didn't look like a joke compared to him.
I really do love your videos I just wish they were longer I listen to him while I’m Making my deliveries And I typically have an hour to and from where I make my deliveries
Speaking of legs, dark law is a macro cosmos on legs
Except it isn't. It's an opponent only Macro Cosmos.
i wish light stage wasnt limited
Genuinely curious on how thats related to heros?
@@jordano6559 its not, but I wish light stage wasnt limited
@@danielyarsky6128 oh okay lol im definitely on the same page would be very useful
I'd like to see a video on anime only cards or something like anime only archetypes that could be good in the TCG.
The I inThunder King Rai Oh: “am I a joke to you mother fucker?”
I special summoned my grandmother to the nursing home today
*How Broken Were the Barian Emperors Number Cards?*
Trinity crush used to be one of the most satisfying otks in duel links
The card he has that swapped the field at the end of the moki moki fight was kinda busted imo.
Cool to see competetive cards get their spotlight in the manga.
All we need now is a light novel where a character just does a full power gouki U link combo with no context.
Try the Structures manga. people in that actually use real strategies.
@@Stinkoman87 We need a YGO GX reunion special/OVA or even a miniseries.
Taking place a year after duel academy. Jaden is getting ready to renter a world tournament.
He then reunites with his old friends from duel academy. You got to have it where Alexis and Syrus chews Jaden out for leaving unexpectedly. Alexis blushing and everything, telling him that she missed him and it's been a long time. Syrus crying with joy, running up to hug Jaden. lol Then Hassleberry shows up too and cries for joy and hugs Jaden. Pissing off Syrus.
Chazz shows up too, and demands his rematch with Jaden and hope they'll face off in the tournament. Aster and Atticus enters. Jesse too. And many others from the school. Maybe we can get a new villain. And you also gotta bring Jaden's mentor from the manga. As he should be the final battle for Jaden. His mentor will run the manga version of the Elemental Heroes like Terra Firma, Core, Gaia, Absolute Zero, Shining etc.
Gotta do the best duelist on the show Zane Truesdale!
I had a friend who loved heros. And when we duel, he would wait for me with stall and I set up a field then go into absolute zero and then mask change into acid and pop my whole field it w and s funny but fucked
5:14 Thunder King RA-Oh
Uhm, anybody else hear that? Just me okay?
Dark Law burning abyss was a deck, wasn’t it?
Not sure if it was a deck on its own, but mask change II was a common side in pk fire and pure fire varients.
I don't know how good was in TCG, or even if Judai actually played it.
But many Duel Links players remember the MEAnkill OTK.
I thought it was a reupload first but then i saw its in manga not in anime
I would love for you to do Shay Obsidian and his raidraptors 😁
Please do Jim Crocodile Cook's cards
Bring Absolute zero and mask hero acid to duel links for the water hero decks 😁
Please make one on Mai Valentines cards and use the uncensored ocg imagery.
I'm so happy you "manga" correctly
*Rai-Oh, not Ra-Oh as you said! You missed the "i" out!
I run Dark Law in my Destiny HERO build and now I know it's back, Stratos will be seeing play again, let's jus say! I had a Warrior Synchro Beatdown Deck on World Championship that played Elemental Heroes Stratos and Wildheart (for his Trap immunity, cuz he was EARTH Attribute for Naturia Barkion if need be and he's not half bad and fits the overall theme, his ease of Summoning a bonus) and Destiny Hero - Plasma for disruption in his Effect negation and Absorbing ability!
How about Bastion Misawa? Let's see how many will be surprised at what else he played besides his ifamous Water Dragon!
Does it mean I need to buy manga to see a protagonist play a (back then) decent deck?
How bout in Vrains like Yusaku and his code talkers ( bc we already know his ace is broken), SoulBurner and Revolver
I don't think vrains have manga
@@imsusf2937 Doesn't mean we can't still do these videos for those characters.
How about Kiryuu (Kaleen Kresler) so you can compare your first deck profile to his
The next logical move is probably Yuma's Cards.
How bad were Tea/Tristan's cards
Im not sure if you did kalin keslar but i think tht would be intresting
1:51 he said "elemental hero" but edited out the "elemental". Why am I mentioning this? Idk...
How broken were yuma's anime cards i'd be curious to see the zexal era
I think hassleberry would be interesting
Now it’s time for our boy Yusei!!
I think he already did that
@@unattractiveguy1770 well shit you’re right lol.
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We have Solid Solider and Liquid Soldier, how come we dont have a Gas Soldiiiii... nevermind.
Can you do Yusei & Akiza's manga cards?
Do Jack Atles Next
Mistake is a Rai Oh without legs
Jaden didn't actually use "a hero lives" btw
Make a video about Revolver Broken cards
next how powerful is yuma's card?
How powerful were the number cards
I wish they print double fusion
Dark law. Nuff said
Maybe alexis cards/manga because how popular benten is recently
Er...she didn't use Cyber Girls/Angels in the manga...there, she's all about the ice wizards...
can anyone explain
1) why harpie feather duster get unbanned but not heavy storm?
2)why monster reborn get unbanned but not premature burial?
3)why gold sarchopagus get limited but not different dimension capsule?
1. Heavy can be used to pop your own cards are trigger their effects on Turn 1
2. Premature can be searched by Hidden Armory
3. Capsule banishes the card face down which means it won't trigger any effects that activate when banished
1. heavy storm can be abused by destroying your own spell/traps that has floating effects, unlike duster
2. premature isnt once per turn, easily searchable bc it's an equip card for some reason and you can bounce it back and use it over and over again to recycle your entire graveyard if you have enough resources to do that
3. gold sarc banishes face up, you can abuse that in decks that loves to banish their own monsters like thunder dragons, while dimension capsule banishes face down you can't abuse it
@Austin's Games Premature Burial being able to be used 4 times per duel through Hidden Armory was enough reason to ban it.
@@otakotako2601 D.D. Capsule was also vulnerable to removal since it had to remain on the field so if it got popped, you wouldn't get your card. It would stay banished. Heavy Storm was also initially banned because of attack-based OTK abuse similar to Giant Trunade (the latter bypassing destruction which was big in a time where Stardust Dragon was commonly used) but that's all it ended up being used for before being banned. The fact you can gain advantage from destroying your own back-row from cards like Fist of the Unrivaled Tenyi while also eliminating your opponents breaks it more. Harpie's Feather Duster is still very strong but hand-traps existing does sort of take some power from it.
@@Dzeeff sorry that makes no sense on the part of Heavy Storm and HFD. Read Storm it lets you destroy your own spells and traps…
but where is the masked hero normal monsters
ar that right there not going to print normal monster now? right
no they still are
Next do aster phoenix
Jaden was probably the second protagonist with the most consistent good cards of Yugioh, the first being Yuya who almost ran full power PePe
no he didn't PePe used Performages which was not Yuya
@@wolfekupo5651 but pepe used performapals too, Monkeyboard and Skullcrobat Joker are banned because of the deck
@@guilhermemarinho9861 ya but you said he used fullpower PePe when he didn't use the Performages part
@@wolfekupo5651 yeah I guess that is true.
what about yusaku ? his deck is really consistent with the cyberse extenders, i tried copying his deck, it was really good, the only bad thing was his extra deck choices was kinda ass
What about a yuya cards analysis
He had Monkeyboard and Pendulum Sorcerer. That's basically it.
You should review ghost girl
His whole deck is hard drawing Poly
Just the status of "has searchers" and "the omni heros" puts jaden's manga deck far above his anime deck
Are you considering stratos as a searcher? In the manga stratos didn't have the searching effect and was just a direct attacker. Also, some of the masked heroes had worse effects (or no effect at all like in the case of Darklaw and the main deck Masked Heros which were vanillas)
Enzo Rafael 🙄 obviously I meant when made real
@@partyrock4144 i mean, you where talking about jaden's manga deck. In the manga he doesn't use the TCG version of his cards
Enzo Rafael on a video discussing the tcg impact of jaden's cards where I refer to an effect a card only has when printed?
How strong was Officer Truggs' deck?
Erm...if you meant the guy from 5D's, I'm _pretty_ sure that's "Trudge".
@@christopherb501 Your probably right. I can't spell for shit.
How good were yuya's manga cards perhaps?
Do Yusaku/Playmaker’s cards
Do Dr Crowlers cards
Word of advice: don't decide to focus on Emma, Skye or Gore for a video unless you're ready for a lot of depressed comments. Considering they used Altergeists, Trickstars and Goukis respectively yet almost never got a significant win or character development that mattered to the plot or even another character, they're considerable sore spots for many people who watched Vrains (the former in particular dying _thrice!)_