I really enjoy videos like these. It is like learning from a mentor at model railroading who does not teach using the concept of my way or the highway. These teachers provide us with the information and often their opinions but let us discover on our own; pretty much it is my railroad. at this point i am in limbo with housing and don't know what i will have to work with in future housing. right now all i can do is watch and learn so i make fewer mistakes on my future layout. As a help, I might be able to explain the outbuilding at Bagley Hotel. It must be a kitchen but the idea of having a kitchen outside of the main house is not well known these days. At one time farms had a summer kitchen outside of the main house. It was a place where major cooking and canning took place. It was mainly used during the summer but could also be used during any other season. The reason for the summer kitchen was because the stoves were wood heat. Cooking was boiling in large pots, baking and sometimes broiled. Frying could easily be done in the house but if it were a large batch it would be done in the summer kitchen. All this cooking would generate a lot of heat and it would heat up the entire house especially upstairs where the bedrooms are. Bear in mind this is before microwaves and well insulated ranges. The summer kitchen eliminated this problem. This was common on large farms but I imagine it could have been at hotels where they cook for a lot of guests and the guests need to be as comfortable as possible. The buildings may have been painted white because of Puritanistic values but also because white paint was easy to produce and cheap. Many wooden structures were whitewashed but even in paint the most available minerals produced white. It would be very expensive to paint with Indigo Blue.
Jack, once again you've come through with a very worthwhile video. I appreciate the fact you're willing to share the mistakes you've made as well as the successes. I think it shows that we can all get better as we push ourselves. My next layout is pure prototype and I'm using many of your ideas in researching and building the structures, all which must be scratchbuilt. Thanks very much.
We could all learn from him a great deal. I for one need to learn how to slow down and take my time with building models!! Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.
Love the swamp cooler and your reference to Bako. I would visit my grandparents in Bakersfield who had 2 swamp coolers on their late 50's built house off of Fairfax and niles st.
That's what I am doing now, to find the RR history of the area I live in so I can model it. I am modelling the late 1800's, the early days of rail and 3D printing satisfies my need for buildings and bridges and even RR cars for my layout. The 3D printer was the best investment I have ever made for my layout, not to mention all the things I have designed for around the house too. Thanks for the video and Happy Modelling! Hans ...
Thank you John, another excellent Video, please pass on my Thanks to Jack for sharing his Knowledge and wonderful Skills with us. Always look forward to these Vidoes. Best Wishes and take Care.
Attention to detail is way beyond my scope of time to invest. Watching the explanations of the history behind the structures was inspiring to build a prototypical structure on my layout. My heart just sank when the broken bridge was pulled out. Is there a photo of it prior to the damage? I get such enjoyment from viewing his layout and listening to his views revolving around the history and scale of each structure. It make the video for me. Thank you so much for sharing.
Great video John! Jack is an ace builder with a keen eye for detail. I thank both of you for the finger knowledge you both pass on to the next generation of modelers!
That building had a few problems. It was painted the wrong color (obvious when you look at all the other buildings painted white or BC red), it didn't make the prototype in so many ways, and I knew I could do so much better with more prototype photos. It was also a fun project!
@@yvfan Jack I didn't know this was you! Well the new one looks amazing and its great that you had fun. That's a problem I'm having right now. Everyone photographed the front of buildings but not usually the back. Makes the hunt fun and interesting. Take care, Ben
@@CreativeRails Of the five YV stations on my layout, only one of them is facing the layout visitor...all of the others have the backside of station toward the visitor. But that was it was on the prototype...
Jack, A few questions/comments/ suggestions. 1) The Bagby White Hotel. I may be wrong but I thought you said you didn't include the second building as it would have caused the layout to be extended beyond your space. Did you think of freeforming the structure? I was thinking turning the second building 90 degrees, install a relief structure, and paint a forced perspective continuation to the backdrop's cyc. It would give both buildings, depth into the backdrop, & allow you to set an era by weathering the structure pre or post fire. 2) Add visual fantasy. At the stiff legged crane. What about removing a part of the fascia, install an enclosed drawer to house an under scene mine interior. I failed to state I HATE FLAT, PAINTED OVER, FASCIA. I do use my fascias to extend my scenes below the layout. So that's my impotice. To extend the viewing pleasure and creative building to the next level. Which finally brings me to #3) I ached & quaked when you shared the story of your unusual visitors incident with your tressel bridge. To the period the exact same thing happened to me in 1989, during a Regional NMRA open house. But it gave my a chance to expand my talent. As much as I hate blan fascias I equally abhor Duck under, Lift up, Drop down bridges. This event was the lynch pin cause. A wooden scratch built tressel some club members and I built was smashed beyond the BACK TO THE FUTURE'S bridge from a slip and fall. After greaving I had an idea. Instead of an opaque duck under I rebuilt the trussel, off layout. Then, with the help of a G.E. R&D staffer, I recieved a huge sheet if LEXAN. Now any acrylic will do. We built a reinforced frame the size of the duck under. I installed three, cut to fit, pieces of the clear plastic under where the bridge would be returned. Useing the frame as a dam, I unfilled the surface and around the pylons with WATER EFFECT's. Dressed the area with props, waves, ripples, and the new bridge. Once back on the layout I made sure to paint the frame in Fire Engine Red and Blaze Orange Reflective Tape on both visitor sides. Now when newbies to the layout experience the duck under they can look up and see the layout from "Down where its wetter...UNDER DA' SEA." You do the best of the TSG videos. I and my club members enjoy them greatly. SEE YA' DOWN THE LINE Jim
Love this! Incline and Law Family forever ❤
I really enjoy videos like these. It is like learning from a mentor at model railroading who does not teach using the concept of my way or the highway. These teachers provide us with the information and often their opinions but let us discover on our own; pretty much it is my railroad.
at this point i am in limbo with housing and don't know what i will have to work with in future housing. right now all i can do is watch and learn so i make fewer mistakes on my future layout.
As a help, I might be able to explain the outbuilding at Bagley Hotel. It must be a kitchen but the idea of having a kitchen outside of the main house is not well known these days. At one time farms had a summer kitchen outside of the main house. It was a place where major cooking and canning took place. It was mainly used during the summer but could also be used during any other season. The reason for the summer kitchen was because the stoves were wood heat. Cooking was boiling in large pots, baking and sometimes broiled. Frying could easily be done in the house but if it were a large batch it would be done in the summer kitchen. All this cooking would generate a lot of heat and it would heat up the entire house especially upstairs where the bedrooms are. Bear in mind this is before microwaves and well insulated ranges. The summer kitchen eliminated this problem.
This was common on large farms but I imagine it could have been at hotels where they cook for a lot of guests and the guests need to be as comfortable as possible.
The buildings may have been painted white because of Puritanistic values but also because white paint was easy to produce and cheap. Many wooden structures were whitewashed but even in paint the most available minerals produced white. It would be very expensive to paint with Indigo Blue.
Jack, once again you've come through with a very worthwhile video. I appreciate the fact you're willing to share the mistakes you've made as well as the successes. I think it shows that we can all get better as we push ourselves. My next layout is pure prototype and I'm using many of your ideas in researching and building the structures, all which must be scratchbuilt. Thanks very much.
We could all learn from him a great deal. I for one need to learn how to slow down and take my time with building models!! Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the hobby.
Love the swamp cooler and your reference to Bako. I would visit my grandparents in Bakersfield who had 2 swamp coolers on their late 50's built house off of Fairfax and niles st.
That's what I am doing now, to find the RR history of the area I live in so I can model it. I am modelling the late 1800's, the early days of rail and 3D printing satisfies my need for buildings and bridges and even RR cars for my layout. The 3D printer was the best investment I have ever made for my layout, not to mention all the things I have designed for around the house too. Thanks for the video and Happy Modelling! Hans ...
Thank you John, another excellent Video, please pass on my Thanks to Jack for sharing his Knowledge and wonderful Skills with us. Always look forward to these Vidoes. Best Wishes and take Care.
I appreciate his advice at the end. Building a layout is a marathon, not a sprint. I'm only at the first mile marker....
Attention to detail is way beyond my scope of time to invest. Watching the explanations of the history behind the structures was inspiring to build a prototypical structure on my layout. My heart just sank when the broken bridge was pulled out. Is there a photo of it prior to the damage? I get such enjoyment from viewing his layout and listening to his views revolving around the history and scale of each structure. It make the video for me. Thank you so much for sharing.
Great video John! Jack is an ace
builder with a keen eye for detail.
I thank both of you for the finger
knowledge you both pass on to
the next generation of modelers!
Wow! Great video. Thanks Jack! Thanks for posting John.
Man, Jack gives a lot of useful information. thanks John
Awesome show Jack keep up the great work and good advice.
Fantastic couple of videos that I just watched!
Thanks John. The man is a true genius of his art and craft.
Truly a great artist. Admired your stuff for years. Hope many more, Paul in Thailand
wow. very, very interesting and informative. Great work and very well researched !
Amazing!
Great show John! You know what's funny, I thought Jack's first Hotel looked pretty good. Didn't think he needed to do it over lol!
It's better than anything I could build right now!
That building had a few problems. It was painted the wrong color (obvious when you look at all the other buildings painted white or BC red), it didn't make the prototype in so many ways, and I knew I could do so much better with more prototype photos. It was also a fun project!
@@yvfan Jack I didn't know this was you! Well the new one looks amazing and its great that you had fun. That's a problem I'm having right now. Everyone photographed the front of buildings but not usually the back. Makes the hunt fun and interesting.
Take care,
Ben
@@CreativeRails Of the five YV stations on my layout, only one of them is facing the layout visitor...all of the others have the backside of station toward the visitor. But that was it was on the prototype...
@@yvfan I'm going to have 2 like that aswell. I thought of turning them around, but decided to stick with the prototype.
Jack,
A few questions/comments/ suggestions.
1) The Bagby White Hotel. I may be wrong but I thought you said you didn't include the second building as it would have caused the layout to be extended beyond your space. Did you think of freeforming the structure? I was thinking turning the second building 90 degrees, install a relief structure, and paint a forced perspective continuation to the backdrop's cyc. It would give both buildings, depth into the backdrop, & allow you to set an era by weathering the structure pre or post fire.
2) Add visual fantasy. At the stiff legged crane. What about removing a part of the fascia, install an enclosed drawer to house an under scene mine interior.
I failed to state I HATE FLAT, PAINTED OVER, FASCIA. I do use my fascias to extend my scenes below the layout. So that's my impotice. To extend the viewing pleasure and creative building to the next level.
Which finally brings me to #3) I ached & quaked when you shared the story of your unusual visitors incident with your tressel bridge.
To the period the exact same thing happened to me in 1989, during a Regional NMRA open house. But it gave my a chance to expand my talent.
As much as I hate blan fascias I equally abhor Duck under, Lift up, Drop down bridges. This event was the lynch pin cause.
A wooden scratch built tressel some club members and I built was smashed beyond the BACK TO THE FUTURE'S bridge from a slip and fall.
After greaving I had an idea. Instead of an opaque duck under I rebuilt the trussel, off layout. Then, with the help of a G.E. R&D staffer, I recieved a huge sheet if LEXAN. Now any acrylic will do. We built a reinforced frame the size of the duck under. I installed three, cut to fit, pieces of the clear plastic under where the bridge would be returned. Useing the frame as a dam, I unfilled the surface and around the pylons with WATER EFFECT's. Dressed the area with props, waves, ripples, and the new bridge.
Once back on the layout I made sure to paint the frame in Fire Engine Red and Blaze Orange Reflective Tape on both visitor sides. Now when newbies to the layout experience the duck under they can look up and see the layout from "Down where its wetter...UNDER DA' SEA."
You do the best of the TSG videos. I and my club members enjoy them greatly.
SEE YA' DOWN THE LINE
Jim
Again very interesting episode. It would be instructive to see more in details the 3D printing stuff, especially for the windows.
Wait until next episode! "3D Printing Concepts" :)
The visitor who destroyed the bridge was a model railroader from Bakersfield. He passed away earlier this year and always regretted what happened.
Well, he won't be able to break anything anymore 😂
a member of the bakersfield club miss the step and broke the bridge