Lee-Enfield Rifle No. 4 Mk 1* (Long Branch)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Made in Canada and loving every minute of it....the No. 4 Mk 1* entered service in 1942 just in time to shoot at some Nazis and support the war effort on our side. Afterwards these were seen in Korea, Vietnam, and everywhere else someone wanted to use the Cadillac of bolt action rifles.
Now they are taking up residence in collections worldwide as technology has rendered the bolt action obsolete but a few magazines full of powerful .303 British rounds will make a believer out of anyone....these rifles are STILL a technological marvel!
Thanks Canada.
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Just found one at a local pawn. I went in to go put a payment on a Springfield 1903 i found a week ago, have on layaway. Then i saw this Enfield and realized it was a Long Branch-- couldnt resist, put that on layaway.
Build that collection baby!
Treasure it 😊
4:02, Canada's connection to the UK is vastly stronger than that of France, given that Canada was part of the British Empire at the time~
My parents worked at the Small Arms factory. That is where they met. My father joined the army in late '42. Went overseas in 1943.
Long branch my favorite 303
I have a No.4Mk1 Longbranch from 1950. I learned a lot from this! Especially loved the stripper clip tutorial. The finest bolt action rifle ever made.
Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate it.
I have a 1950 Longbranch. It’s quality is exception and of course no 4s have better heavy barrels. I have a 1918 BSA which is very smooth a looks and feels great in the hand. I have a 45 no 5 which is lighter but a bit courser in the bolt movement.
But all enfields are great. The bolt sound and gentle push of the 303 gives you a smile from ear to ear
I have a 1945 long branch with 5 groove rifling and #s matching magazine. Lovely rifle never been touched or altered
That sounds like a nice piece. Matching mag is a nice find.
Probably the best all round rifle ever built 😊😊
It's known as the Cadillac of rifles. If it isn't the best it is certainly in the running. Thanks for tuning in.
The "*" designates the forward bolt release found on the Savage models as well. The Longbranch wood is refinished for sure but the metal is in outstanding original condition. FTR = Factory Through Repair.. The cock-on-close design was strictly for speed not separation of steps. The correct order when loading your clips is down-up-down-up-down. The rounds on each end are against the base of the clip allow either end to be inserted into the rifle. To avoid rim lock insert the cartridges deep in the magazine. Love your rifles..!
Great video! Very informative, love too see more videos from you. I own 7 lee enfield’s and I would like too see more lee’s on your channel.
I heard that proper military doctine for the stripper clips was to stagger the rounds. One higher, one lower, one higher, one lower, etc. This solved rim lock and made it so you can insert the clip either way. It seems to work well with my rifle.
Correction on your statement that the second book did not mention the Enfield in the brief historical summary. Recheck that - it showed that the no 4 mark 1 was the most produced version in Canada. 952,000 produced.
Love your passion and excitement for great old rifles. This was a particularly good one MG. Keep 'em coming, so cool.
I love my enfield great video thumbs up stay awesome.
You can't go wrong with a Lee Enfield rifle. The Long Branch rifles did have 2 groove barrels for most of the wartime production, the only No 4 maker that didn't ever switch to 2 groove was BSA of England. They made 5 groove for their entire production series.
I’ve read that it did not matter for accuracy, 2 groove or 5 groove. What have you heard?
@@MilsurpGarage a lot over the years actually but no one has ever been able to substantiate a practical accuracy difference. Now there was one thing I read that said most (if not all) the actual T models were made on BSA rifles because they did have the five grooves. The two No 4 snipers that I have personally seen in the wild I didn't handle though so don't know the makers, I knew I couldn't afford the price of admission so I just admired from a couple feet away.
@Milsurp Garage I have a 1944 Long Branch No.4 Mark 1 that has a different marking on the rear sight and the safety lever is the traditional No.4 Mk1 rounded head. Serial no.76L5960. BTW the handguard on your "No.5" is a Long Branch hand guard.
The location of Canadian Arsenal - Small arms division was right on Lake Ontario very close to Long Branch which at the time was it’s own small village. My father worked there through the war,he was a very skilled mechanist. They also had a massive concrete backdrop for test firing.
Interesting, is it still there? Post a little video of the spot and link it here.
@@MilsurpGarage There is a large pictoral history online for viewing if you're curious. I recently read that the last of the buildings were demolished a few years ago to make way for a new business development or something similar. Choices made by the city government, not provincial or federal. Just the photos remain as I've read.
Think of it as giving Long Branch the Obama/Biden leave them for destruction treatment kind of like Baghdad and Afghanistan.
My "British" rifle was made in the U.S.A. by Savage in '43.
Will Holly Nice, I love theirs.
Always Entertaining My Friend !!
I have a Long Branch with a 2 groove barrel, like what Savage made.
Nice.
Very nice piece....excellent presentation.
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
@@MilsurpGarage just got my first No4 Mk1 last week and waiting on a No4 MkI (T)...watched your tutorial on cleaning up the stripper clips...looks like I have my work cut out for me.
I have a No.4Mk1 Longbranch from 1944 and I found something quite interesting all the major parts including the magazine are branded LB for Long Branch. I also have a magazine that also came with my gun stamped S on the magazine so I have a Long Branch magazine and a Savage magazine. BTW the serial number on your magazine was for a British rifle which have the magazines serial numbered to a particular rifle so the number on the magazine matches the serial number on the rifle.
Not all magazines left the arsenal number stamped; that was often done by the receiving regiment - or not done at all. I can't say whether any British arsenal ALWAYS serialized the magazines to the rifles, whether they ALL did that (I don't think they did), or some variation of that with the British arsenals.
As the practice during the war was to leave the magazine in place and charge with stripper clips, there was no reason to serialize the magazine to the rifle. But when that was done, it sure helped stop somebody who lost their magazine stealing the magazine from somebody else's rifle during barracks life periods. In war there would have been rifles from the wounded or dead to take a magazine from.
I used to ask WWII veterans if they ever picked up and kept magazines from the rifles of casualties loaded and ready at hand. Never had anyone say they did, and eventually I just quit asking.
Furthermore, during WWII, it was a regular occurrence for arsenals that were near each other to send shipments of parts to each other when one had a shortage. The Savage plant in Chicopee isn't all that far from the Long Branch plant - about 450 miles or something like that.
Also they were zeroed with bayonets attached. You stock isn't sanded that's Canadian maple and the stocks differ a bit from UK no4s as do US made Savage No4s
Correct on the zeroing process; straight out of the Canadian pam "Shoot To Live" published when Canada started issuing troops the No.4. I am not sure about that stock being maple, given the appearance. I have had a lot of Long Branch rifles in my hands at the range; those have very good walnut stocks. But rifle parts flowed back and forth between the manufacturing arsenals.
The longbranch barrels were of a better quality than the Enfield and savage made factories. I won the mad minute with one at Trentham NZ in 94 with a 47.4 I suggest reading Major Masefield's booklet on rapid fire instruction,inparticular, the use of index finger and thumb when working the bolt.
That mad minute technique always seemed kind of interesting to me. I’ll take a look.
Well good to see the Long Branch is your favorite, I have them all, UK-F, Lithgow, AUS, Savage in the grease and never proofed and lastly an Ishapore. I have shot service rifle for decades and all my rifles have have there own little likes and dislikes but they all shoot reasonable the same @300m, which is our max for open sights.
My Royal Canadian Sea Cadet's rifle from the early 70's, including the frog sticker spike bayonet. Looking for one now.
I still see nice clean examples around from time to time, good luck. Thanks for tuning in.
Beautiful weapons
Sure are.....
I do like the Endfields, you got a nice model
you can actually load the stripper clips a differnt way where you wont get rim lock and you can load them in either side
They also made the Enfield in 22 long as a training rifle,pretty rare though if you ever see one grab it.
Ive seen them but only once or twice for sale. They were super expensive and totally trashed.
When I see a Canadian no4 I don't say, let's go check it out. I say, let's go check it oot eh?
Exactly.
The number 4 is more accurate but I still love my smle more!! Nice long branch!!
My favrat gun
Nick Panaritis would be very interested in that car.
The factory Small Arms Division was by no means large about the size of a large car dealership. Also the Tropical or Jungle Carbine there’s a debate about not being able to zero it,I have one but it’s very unpleasant to fire.
The only thing more unpleasant than firing it is having it fired at you.
I used to have a 72 regular Roadrunner with a 440, back in the good old days!
Love the No 4 but in 10/22 the 303 ammo scarcity and cost is brutal.
FYI, PPU just released a batch and pricing at the major online ammo retailers is fairly reasonable.
@@MilsurpGarage just seen that $269 for 200 rounds and they did a lot of the milsurp calibers too !!
@@crazy4milsurps Always thinking of my viewers!
@@MilsurpGarage about time they imported again. Ppu brass is my favorite
Lol it's not an A it an Arrow. Our stamp is called the C Broad Arrow
Très belle vidéo
My Long Branch came with a white Vinyl sling which looks odd.
Parade sling. A gesture of sympathy to the troops, freeing them of having to blanco the standard sling until it was an acceptable white for ceremonial parades.
Still seen today in Commonwealth nations with some infantry regiments, when the Colour Guard for the Colours carry the Lee Enfield with bayonet fixed in ceremonies like Freedom Of The City parades.
Any advice on where to buy one?
Not the easiest place to buy from......very strict and procedural.....BUT when he gets in a bunch of Enfields they are usually amazing. Get on the mailing list and follow the directions for already having your favorite FFL in his files and save the necessary emails you have to send in a template....then be fast and lucky.
www.empirearms.com/
One (atleast) is posted right now......
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“C with the A in it” at 28:46? That’s a broad arrow
Got it. Thanks.
Otherwise known as the "crow's foot".
the top part of the handguard has been changed. Long branch had grooves in the top handguarrd made for high humidity expansion.
Like the rifle in my Golden State Arms No 5 video?
Wrong. Not all Long Branch rifles have the top grooves. Many don't.
And back 30 years, I bought a crate (ten rifles... ten rifles=one infantry section) of unissued Long Branch rifles. 93L through 95L serial numbers. Not a single groove in any of the handguards.
I think the stock just had linspeed applied and then a wax furniture polish i did that to my number 4 mark 2 and looks similer i diddnt sand
Yeah, mine is smooth as silk. Satin finish. Definitely worked on with some sanding.
Are all the bolts the same in all the models
Good question......IDK. Anyone?
No some have different out side ends
@@MilsurpGarage No, not even close to being the same. I'm a user/shooter/competitor, not a collector, but as one example I think the cocking piece on the first No.4 rifles was quickly changed to later versions. Button shape to the slab shape on your rifle.
Post war MK3 rear sight
Thanks.....didn't know what to call that "cheaper" sight.
@@MilsurpGarage Isn't it stamped right on the sight? The Milsurps forum is your friend if you want to know every single detail about the Lee Enfield rifles.
It was indeed less expensive to make, but there are advantages as well. The earlier Singer still sight that were "click adjustable" by turning the knob were much quickly to adjust from one range to the other. Another point, if you use verniers to check the repeatability/backlash between clicks in moving from, say, 300 yards to 500 yards, you'll see that the movement per click varies. And if you're in a hurry (like maybe somebody is shooting at you), you might come up a few clicks short of aligning the lines for a specific range... or run a bunch of clicks over because you're in a hurry.
These days, it is less and less important. Unless things change, quality military ball Mk VII ammunition has pretty much dried up. I weep that I didn't buy a lifetime supply of that wonderful Greek military HXP military ball when it was dirt cheap. I have about 500 rounds of it left (480 to the box in stripper clips), but that won't take long to burn through. I should offer to sell it in ten round lots to serious LE owners who want to know what their rifle is actually capable of when shooting high quality military ball... lets them have a standard to try and achieve with handloads, changes they make stocking their rifle up, etc.
Anyways, there is no commercial load or bullet available for handloading that matches the ballistics of military Mark VII ball. Which means after sighting in at any given range with your sights set for that range, the trajectory of your ammunition is going to be off at the other range settings. Maybe not enough to bother you, and maybe enough to bother you a lot.
So the best you can do (unless somebody has a better idea and they've never mentioned it to the LE world) is choose the distance that is most important to you for sighting in, then take your chosen/favorite LE load, commercial or handload, and sight in to POA=POI as your zero distance. When the front sight you have still leaves your elevation a little off at that range, put in the next taller front sight, and then slowly and carefully file down the front sight until you do have POA=POI. Refinish the filed areas with Oxpho Blue or a similar product to get them back to being black again on the top.
For my uses, when original sights are required, I have my 1950 Long Branch set up so the rear sight is truly zeroed at 400 yards. The rest of the distances I know how much I will be low/high. Other guys choose a different range to zero for various reasons that I might or might not agree with - some of them score better than I do, some worse.
If you love shooting at longer distances with your Long Branch, you can track down and buy one of the rear aperture micrometer adjustment rear sights that allow you repeatable sight settings for both range and clicks of windage to compensate for wind. Some are completely drop in i.e. remove the pin that secures the bolt mounting the factory rear sight, put the competition sight in place, and then replace the bolt and pin. Takes less than a minute.
BUTTT... when you find one, it is really going to cost you to buy that accuracy. My Parker Hale Model 4 rear sight cost me $80 back thirty years ago; the last one I saw for sale was asking $400 USD for. A.J. Parker rear sights can be just as and more expensive... damned collectors (and my fellow competitors...).
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Long Branch?
Long....branch?
Hi, Nice Video. Thought i leave a bit more Info's for you here^^ Long Branch Started Production of the No4 mk1 & mk1* in 1941. Early Production Rifles from Long Branch and Savage had 5Grove Barrels but by 1942 switched to "2groved" Barrels to speed Up "War time Production" & simplify them (*). England did partly the same thing on their No4's. Accuracy is identical up to 300yards between 2 and 5 grove, was Tested & verified numerous times. Your 1949 No4 from "LB" looks very Nice... "Look's not Refurbished... at least not in Factory" Maybe a little bit Sanded on the wood but not bad ^^ You should consider a Mag spring change to fix the last bullet jam ^^ (new stronger spring needed) Your web sling looks good i tend to consider it "original" but maybe later 1950ty's production^^ Good work on the "Charger / Clips" there are a ton of different ones out there.. some require a lot of work to get them properly function as yours.. others not much... depends who was the producer... Oh and the "Magazine incl. the Follower where "designed and engineered" to prevent "Rimlock" so if you have a properly working Mag. it rarely occurs... if your mag is not fitted properly to the gun... or the spring is weak / to strong... yeah you have more often Rimlock... or you use modern S&B ammo lol ^^ kind regards from Austria
good info Pat.....thanks
@@MilsurpGarage You're welcome :-D
@Superdude70 PPu makes a very slight rounding but no way near the original stuff...
@Superdude70 I actually use 50/50 on my rifles (S&B and PPu) it works for me but i mostly try to remember what rifle does best with one of two said
ammunition .
Your Long Branch should have the 6 groove, right hand twist barrel. Starting in 1949, the designation changed to “C No.4 Mk. 1*”, and they started making the barrels using Bren gun tooling.
It’s a five groove I believe.
Wrong. Six groove Long Branches are rare as unicorn foreskins. If you have a hard time accepting that, tell your source of that information to go over to the Milsurps forum to tell the collectors and former arsenal gun plumbers that hang out there that every Long Branch from 1949 onward had a six groove barrel.
I purchased a crate of ten Long Branch Rifles 30 years ago, all 1950 manufacture with 93L through 95L serial numbers. Not a single six groove barrel among them. All five groove barrels.
@@MilsurpGarage Six grooves are rare, and don't go with any specific manufacturing year as your misguided advisor believes they were.
Five grooves were the most common as best I remember, and lots of two groove. During the War, the arsenals building the No. 4 rifles regularly sent shipments of parts back and forth of some of the parts. Barrel shipments were among the most common.
Long Branch shipped a lot of parts to Savage who build the Lend Lease No. 4 rifles, probably because they were close in location and it's hard to torpedo a rail car loaded with parts moving between cities that aren't an ocean apart.
@@AirborneMOC031 the 6 groove barrels aren’t rare at all. I had two 1950 C No.4 Mk1* rifles, and both had the 6 groove barrels. The local rangers had a quite a few 1949 and 1950 dated rifles, which I was fortunate enough to examine. Probably around one in three were 6 groove, with most of them being from 1950.
@@jusportel I bought two cases of Long Branches from Districorp in the early 1990's, about 1992; that's 20 rifles in all. They were all 1950 manufacture, new and unissued, 93L and 95L serial numbers. Not one of them had a six groove barrel; the s/n's were random through that range.
I have seen very, very few six groove Long Branch rifles in 50 years of DCRA competition. We did some exercises with the Rangers, but I never bothered checking out the grooves in their barrels. I don't go looking for them, but I am always mindful about them because they are talked about as though a six groove barrel is the epitomy of grouping ability. The Long Branch Unicorn.
If any of that were true, the really serious competitors at the top of the ladder would have all sourced and be using six groove barreled rifles. All the rifles I purchased turned out to have five groove barrels, neither two groove or six groove barrels were found.
This (and what I have heard, for whatever that second hand information is worth) is why I believe they are relatively rare. Collectors prize them because... well, they're hard to find to collect.
I mostly pay attention to how well the rifle groups. Or not. That doesn't seem to have any relevance to how many grooves are in the barrel as I've found so far.
Just for your clarification I have a No4 mk1* LongBranch and it has the ladder sights and forged safety although mine has a date stamp of 1942. So since yours has a date stamp of 1949 they changed the design during WWII make sure you do the research before you make commentgs about the quality of the rifles made here in Canada it was changed due to needing rifles for the war as were many otherr rifles made during that period.
If my comments about the rifle offended you then Trudeau must REALLY be on the shit list! He wants to melt them all.
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How far is 900 meters in yards?
Long Branch Enfields were built by Savage-Stevens in Massachucetts or Connecticut. They Stocks were fitted in Ontario. The Lee-Enfield was also designed in the USA by James Paris Lee. The Lee-Enfield was first built in Enfield GB. When the USA began the Lend Lease program Ssvage-Stevens Armory to build the Mark 4 #1 and #2. The final assembly of the #1 rifles was in Long Branch, Ontario.
Savage Steven's built their own No 4 rifles for UK lend lease, they did not build No4's for Canada, Long Branch Arsenal in Toronto built No 4 rifles in Canada for UK and Canada. Around early 1943 Savage completed the UK contract and many of the remaining components and parts were shipped to Long Branch for assembly into Canadian manufactured rifles.
Long Branch Arsenal is in Canada where the C No4 Mk1* were built. Savage built rifles were all marked US Proprty!
The latter two comments are quite correct. In addition mk7 ball ammunition charged with ball powder as opposed to cordite was manufactured in Canada. Although this was toward the end of ww2.
I have a gun I need magazine
You will certainly be able to find one out there, but be aware it might need some minor fitting. May have to get a professional involved.
You will certainly be able to find one out there, but be aware it might need some minor fitting. May have to get a professional involved.
Is your knowledge of history fuzzy,? Canada was part of the British empire,so naturally ...
My Canadian history is definitely fuzzy……real fuzzy.
Good video, but Cadillac of bolt action rifles? You mean: in 1900 outdated design, bad cartridge since 1914, fast to shot but inaccurate .......... made in Canada as an MkI* , so beeing the worst Enfield ever (maybe beside Savage made ones)? And this rifle: Good metal, the but wood is .................. reworked scrap!
Cadillac was not Rolls Royce. They were gas guzzling, big, heavy, plastic fake wood dashed, couch bench seat GM overindulgence. That's the No. 4
@@MilsurpGarage 🤣 100% right!!
It's almost like the opinion of the Kraut losers who carried the dilettante prissy rifle and prissy caliber that lost to Lee Enfield rifles in not just one, but TWO world wars! The one that barely changed in design from 1900 to the last war it finished last in. Last place in the Boer War to last place in WWII... yet again.
And while the .303 British cartridge and No.4 continued to serve well after the Heinies were defeated yet again in WWII, well into the Gulf War and beyond in some countries, the Kraut 8mm got kicked to the curb... after being dropped in surrender.
Say there Fritze, remember when the surrendering/retreating Boche told their commanders that they were stopped by massed machine gun fire?
Except it wasn't automatic fire: it was superior soldiers with a superior rifle and superior caliber, that could put 22+ rounds on an 8" square target in one minute at 200 yards, standing. Ever see a Boche who could put 22 rounds on target in one minute using the Kraut's prissy rifle and cartridge, Fritz? (Not counting shooting unarmed civilians lined up in front of a trench from a few feet away, of course, as "reprisals")
No, you haven't. And nobody else has seen a Kraut soldier and Kraut rifle able to match Brit soldiers with those rifles either.
Nice of you to take the special effort you did to come here to remind us of who the winners and the pathetic losers are.
boring, dude mumbles throiughout the presentation
I bought a wireless mic since this video so you will be happy to know my mumbling is much louder now. Doesn't help with the boring factor unfortunately.
Seriously, some of my videos are more mumbling and boring than others. Try another before writing my channel off......
Aren't you such a special waste of skin and rations that you believe that the entire world was just sitting here waiting for you to make that pronouncement.
Tell us "dude"/Birthing Person, where can we find your RUclips videos on these or any other rifles that you want to share besides that magnificent expression of your opinion?
@@MilsurpGarage I would suggest that you write off that oxygen thief of a viewer off instead.