Deuce Interview 9Lives 2012

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  • Check out my backstage interview with Deuce and his new band 9Lives
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  • @mariahlv894
    @mariahlv894 8 лет назад +110

    Why do I have a feeling Duece was VERY drunk during this interveiw?

  • @DavidHudson
    @DavidHudson 7 лет назад +22

    This interview looked so damn fun to do.

  • @zombiefighterof1987
    @zombiefighterof1987 10 лет назад +45

    Am i the only one who prefers that it's like this?i mean deuce is better as a solo artist and HU is waaay better now and i hope it stays that way

    • @courtneykent988
      @courtneykent988 9 лет назад

      Finally! Someone who agrees!

    • @wills.8849
      @wills.8849 9 лет назад +2

      ZombieFighterOf1987 Since Deuce left HU is way better now.

    • @sleepykai6434
      @sleepykai6434 8 лет назад

      +Will S. No, HU isn't better now.

    • @wills.8849
      @wills.8849 8 лет назад

      I stopped listening to them around last september

    • @kimberlylee3275
      @kimberlylee3275 7 лет назад

      ZombieFighterOf2001 i actualy agree with you on that

  • @DANtheMANofSIPA
    @DANtheMANofSIPA 9 лет назад +68

    The ego on Deuce and his friends... but damn does he make awesome music.

    • @dashingandreas
      @dashingandreas 9 лет назад +1

      DANtheMANofSIPA awesome music my ass, go listen story of a snitch and B o B airplanes and make the diffrents

    • @DANtheMANofSIPA
      @DANtheMANofSIPA 9 лет назад +9

      FunBoy Deuce couldn't make his own music for a while, so most of the "They Call Me Big Deuce" EP is just remixes.

    • @dashingandreas
      @dashingandreas 9 лет назад

      oh sorry i didnt knew that

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c 8 лет назад

      Yea at least someone's not talking shit for once

    • @deuce3104
      @deuce3104 8 лет назад

      +FunBoy It's a mixtape for a reason fuckboy.

  • @tombradystangoat4356
    @tombradystangoat4356 9 лет назад +33

    I really do like Deuce and Hollywood Undead. I kinda just wished Deuce would be mature and settle their differences but that's not gonna happen cause it seems like Danny permanently replaced Deuce. But look at what Hollywood Undead has done since Deuce left, and look what Deuce has done since he left. I'm sure that in agreement HU has had more succeeds since Deuce left. I hope Deuce comes out with some more albums soon.

    • @DANtheMANofSIPA
      @DANtheMANofSIPA 9 лет назад +8

      Mike Post I kinda agree that he could've of kept most of the fans if he had left easily but I can see how he would be angry that his own band and best-friends kicked him out of the band that he made.

    • @jovanyhernandez1273
      @jovanyhernandez1273 8 лет назад

      h undead should be mature

    • @joshwisniewski3533
      @joshwisniewski3533 8 лет назад +1

      Mikes right

    • @Ariesxz
      @Ariesxz 8 лет назад +1

      He can't be angry you dont even seem to see the reason why they kicked him.

  • @joeylowe6873
    @joeylowe6873 10 лет назад +25

    Deuce is a badass

  • @thelonewandererv3548
    @thelonewandererv3548 10 лет назад +51

    I bet he's just a really sad empty person and fills it with money

  • @demonautizmo8463
    @demonautizmo8463 8 лет назад +16

    BRO BOTH HU AND DEUCE ARE AMAZING I CAN'T TAKE SIDES

  • @CLuvTravels
    @CLuvTravels 7 лет назад +10

    "It's cold out there and the wolves are moaning"

  • @GroovyBabyYeah
    @GroovyBabyYeah 9 лет назад +42

    Aron is actually a pretty chill guy lol

  • @MikeyMikeTV
    @MikeyMikeTV 12 лет назад +13

    Everyone complains that Deuce is "Cocky" or whatever, but ask any lead singer or soloist, you HAVE to have somewhat of an ego, to have the confidence to go on stage and perform. Deuce is the MAN !!

  • @CryingXCX
    @CryingXCX 8 лет назад +23

    Deuce is fucking hilarious.

    • @motokingz7890
      @motokingz7890 8 лет назад

      Ya he kinda grew on me I really love HU more but u have to remember deuce was member too lol

    • @98izzark69
      @98izzark69 8 лет назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @DavidHudson
      @DavidHudson 8 лет назад +3

      Hell yeah he is.

  • @imouttamymind17
    @imouttamymind17 12 лет назад +5

    This is an awesome interview!! Deuce seems like a nice genuine guy who loves his fans, but he obviously loves to joke around. Love his music!!!

  • @veinsofmelody9467
    @veinsofmelody9467 5 лет назад +5

    What are they on? No one sounds sober in this

  • @Crossa
    @Crossa 12 лет назад +6

    I actually found myself smiling and laughing through out this whole interview! :D One of the best Bryan Stars has done. Can't wait for PART 2! CHEA!

  • @austinneighbors43
    @austinneighbors43 10 лет назад +12

    Am I the only one who thinks he's a wee bit drunk?

    • @ChaplainPhantasm
      @ChaplainPhantasm 6 лет назад

      No one really knows if he's drunk or if he's stoned

  • @dhackdaddymac
    @dhackdaddymac 2 года назад +6

    This didn’t age well lol

  • @J24FRALEY
    @J24FRALEY 12 лет назад +5

    Deuce: "They, they don't drink beer, they drink Kool-Aid" hahahaha!!!

  • @amazingateverything2
    @amazingateverything2 12 лет назад +4

    "Having heard both Hollywood Undead and Deuce's new albums, I've come to the conclusion that it was Charlie Scene, Da Kurlzz, Funny Man, J-Dog and Johnny 3 tears who left HU. Deuce has stuck true to his style, something HU cannot say." -Sully Zack "Nine Lives has arrived and it does not disappoint. Nine Lives is a true sequel to Swan Songs and it delivers in every way, shape and form." -Eradik

  • @ChristiansComa
    @ChristiansComa 12 лет назад +3

    "They get groupies, and I get to pack up cables." Aww, poor Yuma

  • @flippers1014
    @flippers1014 9 лет назад +42

    Deuce seems like a really cool guy , but i think he's way too cocky. He should also make one song that isn't about partying or HU for a change .׬×

    • @orion4870
      @orion4870 7 лет назад

      He has.. Called Franny and dreams.

    • @Phil_Leotardo
      @Phil_Leotardo 7 лет назад

      he was just fucking around man I saw him during a meet and greet in pa and he was really cool and humble he was most likely drunk during this.

    • @emoliciousae2699
      @emoliciousae2699 7 лет назад

      these songs was made before HU

    • @broskiislittt5277
      @broskiislittt5277 6 лет назад

      Stfu square

    • @thecroissantsquad4284
      @thecroissantsquad4284 6 лет назад

      He likes partying it’s his music

  • @Dayday-6297
    @Dayday-6297 4 года назад +8

    Deuce: Anything under 17 is mine
    Me, a 13 year old: O_O

  • @QqIFailqQ
    @QqIFailqQ 11 лет назад +2

    That awkward moment when a HU ad comes up on a Deuce vid.

  • @ReDaxx60123
    @ReDaxx60123 12 лет назад +2

    "Sometimes when i'm having sex i make this noise" *blood glucose meter advertisement plays*

  • @muppycute1
    @muppycute1 12 лет назад +4

    When Duece said he would do girls 17 and under I laughed. And realized I was under 17.

  • @undeadfangirlgarcia2577
    @undeadfangirlgarcia2577 8 лет назад +6

    dueces voice 💛💛💛💛

  • @TheAssassinAce
    @TheAssassinAce 12 лет назад +2

    He founded HU and he produced the album. How can you say he has no talent if he basically built the band up, produced their music, taught a few of the members to play new instruments for the band?
    Without Deuce putting his music on Myspace or even trying to do music there would be no HU. If it wasn't for that first track with J-Dog there would be no HU.

  • @BathroomKing2347
    @BathroomKing2347 11 лет назад +2

    "Hi, im deuce, and this my crib."

  • @pietachter3041
    @pietachter3041 10 лет назад +18

    XD was deuce fricking high there?

  • @Altbeanz222
    @Altbeanz222 9 лет назад +4

    i listen to 9 lives and hollywood undead deuce is hawt asfk love you deuce

  • @OriginalClaireFarron
    @OriginalClaireFarron 9 лет назад +2

    I miss Hollywood Undead and Deuce together. But Danny took his place. But I still love Hollywood Undead with Danny. and I like Duece's music.

    • @sleepykai6434
      @sleepykai6434 8 лет назад

      Finally! Someone who has some sense!

  • @BryanStars
    @BryanStars  12 лет назад +1

    Thank you!!

  • @zachariahnicholson4291
    @zachariahnicholson4291 7 лет назад +4

    Please interview deuce again

  • @anirudhgoud5035
    @anirudhgoud5035 8 лет назад +17

    24:15 There we have Arina Chloe not wanna show her face up.

  • @sxhxixnxexe
    @sxhxixnxexe 11 лет назад +2

    That girl max is the girl that interviews bands from buzznet

  • @XSlipknotMaggotX666
    @XSlipknotMaggotX666 12 лет назад +1

    For all of those arguing,please just hush and enjoy the music.RUclips is not the place to argue over who is better or who screwed who.You better be thankful that both Hollywood Undead and Deuce are still making music for us to enjoy.Also,respect @BryanStars for interviewing both of them for us,the fans.Honestly,every person who wants to argue just wants to be part of the drama that is unfolding at the moment.People,there is no need to argue over this.Just except them as they are now.Thanks.

  • @renbrazilian
    @renbrazilian 12 лет назад +4

    I think this interview was the exact thing to make things get over... And i also think that Deuce has a huge career coming. And Bryan was just funny as fuck, sorry for saying this. I like Deuce. And Deuce made def Bryan have a wonderful time and laughing a lot...

    • @sumitmunshi3841
      @sumitmunshi3841 Год назад

      never underestimate the power of major record labels... they flayed him to extinction

  • @hujosh6128
    @hujosh6128 9 лет назад +3

    all of you haters have to leave deuce alone. He is more successful then all you haters, js.

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c 8 лет назад +1

      Yup I like hu but I don't bitch

    • @trevorstockton2516
      @trevorstockton2516 7 лет назад

      Ferris 3 tears he haven’t been relevant in years. Trust me. He’s not successful at all. He’s a failure living off of his past

    • @thecroissantsquad4284
      @thecroissantsquad4284 6 лет назад

      Trevor Stockton bud you probably work in an office

    • @psychokiller5959
      @psychokiller5959 2 года назад

      @@thecroissantsquad4284 um he's homeless now and he begging fans for money and he says hes working on new music but he's not he also some girl has some issues on Facebook and she had reached out to deuce and he had asked her for money and she said I wish I could but I'm going through some shit right now and he was just like "ok"

  • @AirRock01
    @AirRock01 11 лет назад +1

    I've been waiting for this interview forEVER! Iam not disappointed! Thank you!!! Five star interview!

  • @BerkoIsJammin
    @BerkoIsJammin 12 лет назад +1

    I got a picture with Deuce and his autograph and talked to him for about 10 minutes at Uproar in St. Louis this year. Such a cool guy to talk to!

  • @rumham3070
    @rumham3070 2 года назад +7

    Damn. As somebody who was a fan of both Deuce and Bryan Stars a decade ago, it's both funny and sad to see where everyone in this interview ended up. Deuce started out as the singer for Hollywood Undead who was quiet and awkward in their interviews, he got kicked out and all of a sudden became the biggest douchebag on the planet making mediocre songs with a band of his yes men. 2 years later he'd disappear off the face of the Earth and stop making music. 10 years later he's an alcoholic homeless bum who lives in Oregon and keeps getting arrested. Bryan Stars started out as the smiley nerdy kid who interviewed scene bands and asked them funny questions, then he grew his hair out and started making cringe worthy pop songs that sounded like they came out of the early 2000s, then started making RUclips videos with emo teenagers and became an abusive manager who extorted them for money before disappearing. I think Deuce was bound to fail after getting kicked out of Hollywood Undead. He was never a great singer and he's a horrible rapper. Bryan Stars could've still had a career if he just stuck to interviewing bands. He could've had a podcast or something but no, both of these guy's egos lead to their downfall.

    • @nsaneaf4982
      @nsaneaf4982 Год назад +3

      Max the girl in the interview passed out in 2016 so yeah from this perspective it's kinda sad.

    • @chickentenders7876
      @chickentenders7876 Год назад

      Quite sad honestly.

    • @vampirexxal
      @vampirexxal Год назад

      @@nsaneaf4982howd she die

    • @nsaneaf4982
      @nsaneaf4982 11 месяцев назад

      @@vampirexxalFrom a gunshot to the head inflicted by herself.

    • @bbpue
      @bbpue 7 месяцев назад

      Damn yeah this is pretty crazy how ego just destroyed them both

  • @masonmeacham
    @masonmeacham 4 года назад +4

    This shit is just so awkward man wtf

  • @TheDeadlySinsPS3
    @TheDeadlySinsPS3 12 лет назад +1

    For all the idiots thinking HU or Deuce are bad clearly aren't here for the music there here for the drama and because they think making song is up to one singer and not the whole band
    if you were here for the music you'd relies there both good at what they do

  • @Guy13001
    @Guy13001 11 лет назад +1

    I would do the same, honestly. He isn't 2-faced, he just wanted to hear the story from different perspective, and that's a fact both HU and Deuce said something different, and he said "oh well they said this.." because he wants to know what was his response to these comments.
    Long Live HU!

  • @wishi6k
    @wishi6k 8 лет назад +3

    Cant wait till Deuce gos on tour (And hopefully comes to Boise)

  • @geist3591
    @geist3591 9 лет назад +7

    I actually like him now....

  • @AirRock01
    @AirRock01 11 лет назад +1

    I've been waiting for this interview for EVER!!! This interview did not disappoint! Loved it! Happy you finally got to sit with him. Would of loved seeing his sister though lol. Gewd shit! Great interview!

  • @Devilofkuni
    @Devilofkuni 4 года назад +1

    I love how deuce said that everything is over here but now days... It sounds really funny

  • @gabegreenlee938
    @gabegreenlee938 9 лет назад +5

    And HU just put out a top 10 record.. Where's deuce??

  • @swizzl_
    @swizzl_ 5 лет назад +3

    well, well, well...

  • @cwhip9
    @cwhip9 12 лет назад

    who the hell puts a ad in the middel of a 9lives interview?

  • @XSlipknotMaggotX666
    @XSlipknotMaggotX666 12 лет назад

    Also, no matter how much crap you want to talk about Deuce or Hollywood Undead,they don't care.They are celebrities who have better things to deal with than care about what some hateful people on social networks have to say about them.

  • @SuperMoomootv
    @SuperMoomootv 11 лет назад +5

    Im so happy for deuce he seemed really successful and i hope his success with music continues

  • @superlgkid
    @superlgkid 10 лет назад +5

    The one thing people seem to forget is that Deuce is drunk as shit here. Watch an interview that's not after a concert and see how he acts sober. Huge difference. I bet anyone who's drunk would act like this to some degree.

  • @Tearsofdeath97
    @Tearsofdeath97 12 лет назад +1

    it's deuce that makes me wanna be a rapper/singer

  • @FalconsWarrior
    @FalconsWarrior 10 лет назад +1

    Fuck all haters. If it wasn't for Deuce, there would have never been a Hollywood Undead. I like em both, but give Deuce some props. Him and J-Dog started the whole thing

    • @psychokiller5959
      @psychokiller5959 2 года назад

      IT WASN'T FOR SHADY Hollywood undead wouldn't even exist without shady helped make the band he helped arrange the song Jeffree starr he helped them get their image which was dark emo rock hip Hop

  • @tombradystangoat4356
    @tombradystangoat4356 9 лет назад +5

    Deuce and his friends are absolutely vulgar... Don't get me wrong he makes amazing music... But they were all somewhat Vulgar is Swan Songs but since Deuce left its just weird.

  • @Mondietheundead
    @Mondietheundead 10 лет назад +6

    AAAAAANNNDDDD this is why I don't like deuce

  • @NickTheKing7
    @NickTheKing7 11 лет назад

    thats not just "sharing your opinion" dude, thats called bashing someone.

  • @jdog3514
    @jdog3514 11 лет назад +2

    "look at those ears zoom in on that shit" *zooms camera out* GENIUS

  • @dannydale873
    @dannydale873 10 лет назад +3

    Deuce doesn't care what people say and that's sick! He is a king!

    • @sleepykai6434
      @sleepykai6434 8 лет назад +3

      +Paradise LosT At no time was he a crybaby.

  • @deadrockroxxiii
    @deadrockroxxiii 12 лет назад +3

    Deuce is amazing

  • @BladezMatikScootie
    @BladezMatikScootie 4 года назад +1

    Hollywood Undead AND Deuce 9lives are awesome. Not just one of the two.

  • @LIKExAxBOSS77
    @LIKExAxBOSS77 12 лет назад +1

    I LOVED meeting Deuce!

  • @natalieames3566
    @natalieames3566 9 лет назад +11

    I fucking love Deuce 9lives and Hollywood Undead is ok a tiny bite but Deuce is better than them

  • @kevinfightsbears
    @kevinfightsbears 2 года назад +4

    His career is in the shitter now lol

  • @EpicUnicorn247
    @EpicUnicorn247 12 лет назад

    HU didn't break up. They kicked deuce out and replaced him with danny. Deuce makes his own music now

  • @Maxineraney
    @Maxineraney 12 лет назад

    I'm a concert photographer/interviewer. I wasn't really supposed to be in this, I was just sitting on the other couch texting but got invited in.

  • @elizabethrose2523
    @elizabethrose2523 7 лет назад +5

    Damn Deuce cracks me up lol. I'm a sucker for skinny cocky dudes covered with tattoos. He totally has that socially awkward attitude though where he when he's drunk or hyped up he acts like he's God's gift lol.

    • @psychokiller5959
      @psychokiller5959 2 года назад

      I'm a skinny guy no tattoos do I have a chance

  • @that80sobsessedkid
    @that80sobsessedkid 9 лет назад +13

    I cannot believe how disrepectful Deuce is about women -.- seriously women are not just "pussy" as he put it. That, in my opinion, is a very derogative and dehumanising term. If I was that girl in the video I would not stand being treated like that.

    • @immortal6950
      @immortal6950 9 лет назад +7

      He was joking. Can you not take a joke? That girl obviously knew he was just kidding and she didn't even care. Welcome to the world of men.

    • @that80sobsessedkid
      @that80sobsessedkid 9 лет назад +1

      Kermit The Snitch It could well be a joke but that doesn't make sexism ok. Thats like saying rape jokes are ok or racist jokes are ok.

    • @zrizzle19
      @zrizzle19 9 лет назад +3

      madamemofringe rape jokes are ok aswell as racist jokes. comedy should have 0 bonderies. If you are cracking jokes and saying stuff you don't really mean you should be able to joke about whatever the fuck you want.

    • @that80sobsessedkid
      @that80sobsessedkid 9 лет назад

      fzrasher There is a massive difference between cracking a joke and just being offensive. People should have freedom of speech but need to think before they say something. This is just my opinion.

    • @immortal6950
      @immortal6950 9 лет назад +2

      madamemofringe And it's Deuce's opinion to crack offensive jokes. So can you just fuck off already?

  • @savannahrichmond6757
    @savannahrichmond6757 5 лет назад +2

    I See why Charlie scene was and still is leader of Hollywood Undead yeah but I get me wrong Deuce is in one of my favorite songs from Hollywood Undead songs called bitches

  • @wearywanderer7018
    @wearywanderer7018 11 лет назад +2

    if I were having an interview with Bryan I would have fun too, he's a funny guy

  • @gaberobertson1450
    @gaberobertson1450 10 лет назад +4

    Deuce 9 lives is badass

  • @BryanStars
    @BryanStars  12 лет назад +2

    LOL i lost my voice enjoying the show :D

  • @44BLYAAAAT44
    @44BLYAAAAT44 8 месяцев назад

    1:15 meanwhile, deuce just drinking his drink (whatever it is) like a kid in the background of a birthday

  • @cahyasatixoxo7207
    @cahyasatixoxo7207 2 года назад +1

    I gotta say Deuce got a bad rub, producers are the ones who really make and put the songs together, he made the beats, wrote the hooks, got the band together, recorded all the tracks, and got kicked out right when his hard work was paying off. Dudes a great producer and people who are good at their job are usually fuckin weirdos, give him a break.

  • @ry_ryrubixxcube2974
    @ry_ryrubixxcube2974 7 лет назад +3

    I love hu but deuce nine lives makes better music yes hu came out with more music lately but it has not been that good so deuce motherfucker nine lives😂

  • @BVBDeclan
    @BVBDeclan 10 лет назад +5

    Love his music, dislike his lifestyle.

  • @wearywanderer7018
    @wearywanderer7018 11 лет назад +1

    hu fans quit fuckin saying that Bryan is a backstabber for doing an interview with Deuce..It's his fucking job.

  • @HUsolidier
    @HUsolidier 12 лет назад +1

    Nine Lives is #37 on billboard, #2 on hard rock charts, and #13 on rock charts! it did better than I thought :D.

  • @mistyclark7113
    @mistyclark7113 6 лет назад +2

    deuce is the hotties i wish i could kiss him

  • @rainbowcookiez7218
    @rainbowcookiez7218 8 лет назад +3

    they look so drunk

  • @NikkyNinelives
    @NikkyNinelives 12 лет назад +1

    deuce is fucking amazing and he will defintly be on top soon enough.....amazing man trully loves his fans and puts all he has in his music

  • @shotgun142
    @shotgun142 11 лет назад

    Why do you want to start an argument? You have your views and other have their own. So just enjoy the bands you listen to and just ignore the ones you don't like.

  • @meganandkarena
    @meganandkarena 12 лет назад

    I knew once I clicked on this video, that the comments would be filled with arguments.

  • @Surely117
    @Surely117 12 лет назад

    the weird thing is that I only see him only wearing like two different shirts..

  • @RAEFALLOUT21
    @RAEFALLOUT21 12 лет назад

    yeah but he didn't choose his name cuz of that. His original name was the producer, and they said it was too long so he changed it to deuce. he says so in every interview they ask about his name.

  • @Rejeanna4ever
    @Rejeanna4ever 12 лет назад +2

    love his voice

  • @taylort3674
    @taylort3674 7 лет назад +2

    deuce says he has an ear fetish at 22:28
    someone put it on the wiki page

  • @aneneslay9142
    @aneneslay9142 11 лет назад +1

    I love you deuce
    100% hotness

  • @stoney_1kenobi826
    @stoney_1kenobi826 9 лет назад +2

    A clockwork orange intro for them lol ?

  • @TheHypnoticgrassblad
    @TheHypnoticgrassblad 12 лет назад +1

    i like deuce hese really freindly

  • @masoxdd
    @masoxdd 11 лет назад +1

    wish i can see deuce with a new shirt :/

  • @twinkletoes616
    @twinkletoes616 12 лет назад

    Funny the way that none of his fans are smiling at his concert....

  • @sasukecoochieha
    @sasukecoochieha 11 лет назад

    So he's confident and doesn't hide it, big deal. He's just joking around.

  • @NickTheKing7
    @NickTheKing7 11 лет назад

    he also said that his solo work sucked. he also was bashing Deuce's music in other videos.

  • @xPurge
    @xPurge 5 лет назад +1

    I feel like both deuce and HU improved after deuce got kicked out the band I don't see why some people are so bias and can't like both artists and need to choose a side.

  • @Benluvdrowned
    @Benluvdrowned 8 лет назад +2

    Bryan your friend Jordan sweeto sounds exactly like deuce

  • @twang41
    @twang41 12 лет назад +1

    This is perfect

  • @thirtyfiveoutoffiftycharacters
    @thirtyfiveoutoffiftycharacters 4 года назад +1

    Deuce in his head: I miss my band....
    (I'm not in anyway saying that he is bad)