Damn! My 30mp dslr makes 50Mb raw images... Just made the math here using this reference and each file of this camera takes 5.3Gb! It's 10.6Gb per minute! 600+Gb per hour! If we are lucky to have an average of 4 hours per night without clouds, in 10 years it will consume 9 million and 334 thousand Gb..... 🤯 9.3 Petabytes. And we will have translated all the visible light of the universe from our perspective to a collection of 7.47x10e16 zeros and ones...
2020 described: Your riding on a bike,excited for a new decade,but then the ground combusts into fire,then the sky is on fire,and everything’s on fire because your in hell.
@@SuperMuha2 yes brother when i also think about it i get excited plus sad , sad beacause we are not gonna be arround to witness all those things ..... Still happy 😊 for humanity
@@jacobandrews2663 yup. What's that quote? Something about how those who would be best fit to lead us are inherently the kind of people who wouldn't want to get that kind of job
I wish they'd named "dark matter" something like "non-barionic matter", the current name makes people think its related to dark energy and woo-peddlers have run rampant with it.
To be on the front lines, and discovering the universe like that, is truely awe-inspirering. I feel a slight tingle of envy, towards the scientists that do this for a living, but at the same time, i don't because i also know the hard work they all put into it... Thanks for a wonderful video, that most certainly brightened my day, quite abit... Love watching these videos...
that would be around 5.3Gb ... yes your phone handles it. The question would be more about the memory to open that file and the processing power .. And.. what for ? (please no more wallpaper joke ahah)
3:55 if the cola is to create a “map” of the sky and there is x many pixels how much zooming in the picture can be done? I recon the map only are valid for studies if you can interact with it and zoom in on each pixel while still having a clear image.
So I worked it out! TL;DR: If you are viewing the complete night sky image in all it's glorious resolution on a 30 inch monitor, you would be able to zoom up to a spot just 0.56mm (1/45th of an inch) in width in that image and still have 4K resolution. In total the final image has within it 1,388,000 4K images all stitched together. How I worked it out for those that are interested. The Moon takes up 0.5 degrees in the sky. They said that the area of one image is 40x the size of the moon, lets assume that the moon is a square and the image is only 36x the size of the moon. This gives one image a size of a 6x6 grid of moons filling a 3 degrees field in the sky (only a 13% error with this estimation which I can live with). To complete a half circuit (180 degrees) of the sky it would take 60 of these 3x3 degree images, however it would take another 60 rows of this image strips to curve this image strip through the sky and complete a dome of images (note the telescope only images the southern hemisphere which is half of the total night sky). This results in 3600 images of the night sky (yes there is overlap at each of the strip ends, it's yet another estimation I am willing to live with because otherwise physically stitching all the images together for the final nigh sky image would be a nightmare). This final dome of images would have 11,500,000,000,000 pixels (or 11.5 terapixels, or 11,500 megapixels). A 4K image has 8.3 million pixels, which means the final dome of images would consist of approximately 1,388,000 4K images. This equates to a grid of 4K images that is 1178x1178 images big. Therefore on our 30 inch monitor which would be 66.4cm wide, each 4K image would only appear 0.56mm wide. Which means we can zoom onto a spot just 0.56mm wide and still have a 4K image on the screen.
@@calebjones3383 so it would be possible to zoom to a point of a 16th of a square millimeter to have a FHD image. For comparison, human eye is able to distinguish two points about the distance of a half millimeter. Impressive
Wow .. when humanity works together and great minds work on solving a problem the technological break throughs and machines that can first be imagined then constructed are amazing. This telescope is an absolute engineering marvel , we have come so far technologically in the past 50yrs, its mind blowing... not to mention the data storage capacities that are required to support such enormous files, this would not have been possible if the cloud storage servers that we take for granted in 2020 did not exist.
@@PeaceManBro because negative emotions have a greater effect on us humans than positive ones. outrage is stronger than curiosity and fascination, sadly. Imagine where we would be if the USA spends the budget of its military on NASA and space exploration. Almost all our new technologies have its roots in the era of space race in the 60s... What are we benefiting from the military? I can only think of GPS and I am pretty sure that we would have gotten GPS sooner if NASA had such a big budget of 721 billion $ lol
@@astrofox2409 astronomy needs to accelerate its progress just like the tech industry does. We need to be building a composite of satellites to form a mega telescope in space that would make the James web look like a toy
@@GK-qc5ry we can't use that method for optical telescopes because the distance uncertainty needs to be less than the wave length of the light for it to work.
Satellite traces can easily be removed by software, even I know several hobby astronomers who know how to. I think the scientists might be able to do this as well. :) But many simulations of a sky with Starlink satellites are outdated anyway because of the lower orbit (500-600km) and the ways SpaceX tries to block more light from reflecting to earth. (Dark coating and sun visors)
I know the 20th decade of this millenia started tough, but the endeavors scheduled on the space exploration and the science about the mechanics of the universe are so exciting that it will worth passing trought all of this.
Imagine, if all humanity was united and there ware no money, imagine the technical and scientific advances we would have without the hindrance of money.
Seeing as how I'm in my 30's, and how many of these projects will be completed within my lifetime, it could very well be that I will live to see the telescope that finds whatever rock is out there that, if undiscovered in time to divert, will cause an extinction level event capable of wiping out humanity. What a time to be alive. As great minds throughout time have discovered time and again, all the answers are already out there in the universe, just waiting for someone to ask the right question.
Amazing! Our World Community can move our consciousness into profound directions if we collaborate and share. I'm so proud and excited to be able to have the opportunity to share in our new discoveries. Thank you to e everyone that has participated in making this real.
These cross collaboration science mega projects (ITER, Copernicus, GMT) are what keep my cynisim about the state of the world at bay. This ability to come together and focus our energy and attention to discovery more about the world for the benefit of all humankind is simply beautiful.
@@renevile I don't think there's a way of photographing around them considering the density of the satellites as over 10,000 more are planned to be launched.
@@vinaysridhar7306 And not just that, there are a lot of other satellites up there. I don't get why people pick on starlink. Maybe its the media buzz around them?
The price was not even half a billion, America alone spend 1600 times that much money on War every single year, imagine if that money was spent on actual science to better mankind.
The Vera Rubin is a beast of a telescope that has not gotten near the publicity it deserves. In my opinion, its influence will dwarf the JWST by a lot. It's so upgradable, too. It is a scope for far into the future for sure.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the awesome CGI, and the artists behind it, that enable us to perceive the universe like we never would've been able to.
I want this camera on a space telescope orbiting Mars, looking for caves, canyons, cliffs, anyplace a biosphere can economically be constructed on Mars.
I would like to see looking at a big white field, something like the Moon but much further away, and seeing if anything transits it. A rogue planet, something in the Oort Cloud, asteroid, dark old star, Black Hole, or that unknown thing.
wait so what the last dude was saying that the light /data might be old and what we are seeing might not even be there anymore.... or am i overthinking
Will each picture of an area be like the one before so that the area where the CCD frame is at will never be seen, or will each be shifted a bit in both X and Y?
Stunning. These guys are truly brilliant.
Absolutely, no doubts..!!
They think this is also.. amazing..!!
That's why they're known as scientists 😁😁😁
We are around 7 billion in population and among us only few millions are taking us to the future .. that's not fair🙄🙄🙄
They are madlads
All this just to make another wallpaper for my PC.
That's the whole point. Lol.
Aren't people nice?
🤣😅😅
Well, thats fine by me tbh
We wanted to make something special for you :)
Can't wait for the pictures it will take.
but they will look normal because most if not all phones don't have 3.2billion pixels
@@skyeplays1772 I had a stroke reading this.
Guess they could pay for the project just selling huge posters os those pictures with a good campaign.
@@skyeplays1772 but then you keep zooming... 😜
For the final timelaps it will take 10 years
Damn! My 30mp dslr makes 50Mb raw images... Just made the math here using this reference and each file of this camera takes 5.3Gb! It's 10.6Gb per minute! 600+Gb per hour! If we are lucky to have an average of 4 hours per night without clouds, in 10 years it will consume 9 million and 334 thousand Gb..... 🤯
9.3 Petabytes. And we will have translated all the visible light of the universe from our perspective to a collection of 7.47x10e16 zeros and ones...
Is RAW image losslessely compressed though???
@@anand.suralkar actually it will be more than that
Damn !
@@anand.suralkar no compression.
Studious Monk it’s also the old CCD - then newer cmos in all modern camera because CCD is still far superior then cmos .
applied for an internship on computer vision for this observatory's images, hopefully I'll get it :)
Good luck
Hopefully you get it! Good luck!!
Goood luck!
10 year internship 🤷
Good luck
imagine the size of the total files...
3.2 billion pixels image every 30 sec for every night 10 years...
around tree fiddy
Could be three or four... maybe five
50 L.
100's of petabytes in fact 7:28.
It would be interesting to know how many 1 Tb ssds they have avaliable.
Ah, yes finally camera to see dem Alien cheeks
Dem fine alien ass cheeks 🙄
@@ivan-Croatian u finna see bactera sized cheeks xD
@@bevelededge6941 At least it will be alien cheeks
than you would have epic science balls
haha alien is on mars..
Guys, seems like we're about to get some brand new wallpapers 📷
I can't wait also hope we can reach the year of 2030s
@@christiansartorio3645 with how 2020 is going there won't be a 2030
Mine is Stephan's Quintet right now. What's yours?
2020 described:
Your riding on a bike,excited for a new decade,but then the ground combusts into fire,then the sky is on fire,and everything’s on fire because your in hell.
Hubble pictures are Good wallpapers.
Probably the most impressive video graphics I’ve ever bet seen to explain this incredible camera and it’s capabilities
when we see such amazing inventions we should realize how far humanity has come from hunter and gathers to the explorer of the universe.
but also how few we actually know and we just started to understand - we have got such a long journey to go.
Still hunting and gathering data. :D
yet people still believe earth is flat
@@SuperMuha2 yes brother when i also think about it i get excited plus sad , sad beacause we are not gonna be arround to witness all those things ..... Still happy 😊 for humanity
@@bulletproofblouse yes 😂😂😂 but this hunting and gathering is much harder than what our ancestor use to do ....
Always nice to be reminded that there are smart people out there doing great work.
sadly, those same brilliant people refuse to lead us and become our politicians..
@@jacobandrews2663 yup. What's that quote? Something about how those who would be best fit to lead us are inherently the kind of people who wouldn't want to get that kind of job
*"Every 30 seconds, half a minute passes."*
words of wisdom
*yes, the floor is made of floor*
together we can stop this
the sky is as high as the sky
:O
Samsung: write that down, write that down!
charles* lel
LOL!
Theyre working on a 600mp sensor for smartphones whitch is apparently the resolution of the human eye. It should me out in 3-4 years.
Ohhhhhhh!! Epic
no add 3 cameras
wait that’s apple
I wish they'd named "dark matter" something like "non-barionic matter", the current name makes people think its related to dark energy and woo-peddlers have run rampant with it.
NBM
woo-peddlers will always be there... we still got flat Earthers, ffs
woo-peddlers and science-disbelievers will always exist. The name, I think, is irrelevant.
non-photonic matter
dank matter
Vivo&oppo are trying to put this cam in their next mobile.
XD LMAO
I can smell it coming no joke
It wouldn't be joke in next 3-4years really that is gonna be a real thing
@@anand.suralkar it would be physically impossible, unless their next phone will be as big as the dome they used to envelope the telescope.
MP are not that important over 30MP
Phone manufacturers just want numbers to put on advertising.
The best professional DSLR'S are 20-30 MP
I dig that Vera Rubin is getting this level of acknowledgement.
The sponsor of MelodySheep?
no
no
@@azom5577 heheh funny number
MelodySheep best :D
To be on the front lines, and discovering the universe like that, is truely awe-inspirering. I feel a slight tingle of envy, towards the scientists that do this for a living, but at the same time, i don't because i also know the hard work they all put into it... Thanks for a wonderful video, that most certainly brightened my day, quite abit... Love watching these videos...
Absolutely amazing ❤️ we need to see the pictures
Finally something positive and exciting for the years to come.
There are many positive things coming, if you only focus on the negative you miss them.
My phone wouldn't store even a single picture of that camera.
that would be around 5.3Gb ... yes your phone handles it. The question would be more about the memory to open that file and the processing power .. And.. what for ? (please no more wallpaper joke ahah)
totally agree: 1st thing is to make these pictures
but 2nd is to correctly analyse them and learn from them
enormous project - superb!
Im extremely stoked for this! I love seeing humanity progress
3:55 if the cola is to create a “map” of the sky and there is x many pixels how much zooming in the picture can be done? I recon the map only are valid for studies if you can interact with it and zoom in on each pixel while still having a clear image.
So I worked it out!
TL;DR: If you are viewing the complete night sky image in all it's glorious resolution on a 30 inch monitor, you would be able to zoom up to a spot just 0.56mm (1/45th of an inch) in width in that image and still have 4K resolution. In total the final image has within it 1,388,000 4K images all stitched together.
How I worked it out for those that are interested.
The Moon takes up 0.5 degrees in the sky. They said that the area of one image is 40x the size of the moon, lets assume that the moon is a square and the image is only 36x the size of the moon. This gives one image a size of a 6x6 grid of moons filling a 3 degrees field in the sky (only a 13% error with this estimation which I can live with). To complete a half circuit (180 degrees) of the sky it would take 60 of these 3x3 degree images, however it would take another 60 rows of this image strips to curve this image strip through the sky and complete a dome of images (note the telescope only images the southern hemisphere which is half of the total night sky). This results in 3600 images of the night sky (yes there is overlap at each of the strip ends, it's yet another estimation I am willing to live with because otherwise physically stitching all the images together for the final nigh sky image would be a nightmare).
This final dome of images would have 11,500,000,000,000 pixels (or 11.5 terapixels, or 11,500 megapixels). A 4K image has 8.3 million pixels, which means the final dome of images would consist of approximately 1,388,000 4K images. This equates to a grid of 4K images that is 1178x1178 images big. Therefore on our 30 inch monitor which would be 66.4cm wide, each 4K image would only appear 0.56mm wide. Which means we can zoom onto a spot just 0.56mm wide and still have a 4K image on the screen.
@@calebjones3383 so it would be possible to zoom to a point of a 16th of a square millimeter to have a FHD image. For comparison, human eye is able to distinguish two points about the distance of a half millimeter. Impressive
I wonder what the images would look like if this equipment was placed onto the ISS (International Space Station) ?
Needs to go way higher than that. Moving far too fast on the iss for it do be any good
Not feasible.. for that purpose James Webb deep space telescope is getting ready..!
A 30 ton optical lens?
Kanna Sai James Webb shoots in infrared only I think
Tell Elon
Wow .. when humanity works together and great minds work on solving a problem the technological break throughs and machines that can first be imagined then constructed are amazing. This telescope is an absolute engineering marvel , we have come so far technologically in the past 50yrs, its mind blowing... not to mention the data storage capacities that are required to support such enormous files, this would not have been possible if the cloud storage servers that we take for granted in 2020 did not exist.
Why doesnt the news showcase fascinating technology like this instead of violence and negativity all the time?
@@PeaceManBro because negative emotions have a greater effect on us humans than positive ones. outrage is stronger than curiosity and fascination, sadly. Imagine where we would be if the USA spends the budget of its military on NASA and space exploration. Almost all our new technologies have its roots in the era of space race in the 60s... What are we benefiting from the military? I can only think of GPS and I am pretty sure that we would have gotten GPS sooner if NASA had such a big budget of 721 billion $ lol
I've been excited abou this one for the better part of a decade. Can't wait for first light.
Beautiful graphics used in this video.
It will record the most beautiful traces of the starlink project.
Unfortunately, yeah, Starlink isn't great for astronomy.
@@astrofox2409 astronomy needs to accelerate its progress just like the tech industry does. We need to be building a composite of satellites to form a mega telescope in space that would make the James web look like a toy
@@jonathanmay7508 yeah maybe more global networks of telescopes like they did for the black hole picture, turning earth into one massive telescope.
@@GK-qc5ry we can't use that method for optical telescopes because the distance uncertainty needs to be less than the wave length of the light for it to work.
Satellite traces can easily be removed by software, even I know several hobby astronomers who know how to.
I think the scientists might be able to do this as well. :)
But many simulations of a sky with Starlink satellites are outdated anyway because of the lower orbit (500-600km) and the ways SpaceX tries to block more light from reflecting to earth. (Dark coating and sun visors)
why refract and not reflect, is it because the sensor array is too large to move independently?
This is amazing I can’t wait to see what we can learn from this
I know the 20th decade of this millenia started tough, but the endeavors scheduled on the space exploration and the science about the mechanics of the universe are so exciting that it will worth passing trought all of this.
DARPA used this in a satellite to look at earth real time at a relatively large area, several sq miles, using cheap smart phone CCDs in a mosaic.
Can we access it?
Truly insightful ! Seeker, you are the best.😊
Great team work seems to the really impressive thing to me. But the results will be truly amazing for the next generation to unravel
Imagine, if all humanity was united and there ware no money, imagine the technical and scientific advances we would have without the hindrance of money.
If only that kind of economy would work
Great, we can map the precession of the starlink network! Awesome
I'll be back here in 10 years .
Seeing as how I'm in my 30's, and how many of these projects will be completed within my lifetime, it could very well be that I will live to see the telescope that finds whatever rock is out there that, if undiscovered in time to divert, will cause an extinction level event capable of wiping out humanity. What a time to be alive. As great minds throughout time have discovered time and again, all the answers are already out there in the universe, just waiting for someone to ask the right question.
Ya! Like is the earth round or flat?
Amazing! Our World Community can move our consciousness into profound directions if we collaborate and share. I'm so proud and excited to be able to have the opportunity to share in our new discoveries. Thank you to e everyone that has participated in making this real.
I wish my phone had one of those
Then your phone would be the size or a house.... unlikely!
You already have something even better, your eyes
@@mypahrizal335 last time i checked my eyes can't see the majority of stars/galaxies not to mention detail
Me too
In 200 years you might
😉
This is so awesome! Thank you for your hard work!
This is just incredible!
Such genius scientific progression makes me emotional. Absolutely fascinating!!
When can my iPhone get this
I'm glad Vera Rubin has an observatory named after her, I wonder when Halton Arp will.
This is going to be awesome!!! Can’t wait to see it!!
These cross collaboration science mega projects (ITER, Copernicus, GMT) are what keep my cynisim about the state of the world at bay. This ability to come together and focus our energy and attention to discovery more about the world for the benefit of all humankind is simply beautiful.
"Thousands of Petabytes!" OMG Gamers get READY!!!!!
Rookie numbers.
Outstanding i think this is one of brilliant projects after apollo and Voyager, truly an excellent initiative
GIGAPIXEL? Sounds good for a new google smartphone product.
we living in a wonderful era of innovation.
Man JWST in 2021 & VRCO in 2022, what a time to be alive!
Cool trailer and I can't wait to see the movie in 2030!
2032* :(
and how many exabytes will this project take up?
Who am I to predict that - world class physicist
We could all aspire to be more like that
What a humble guy! Props to them!
FANTASTIC!! Thanks for sharing this
How many Gigapixel?
My smartphone camera: *0.1mega pixel*
Are the starlink satellites in any way gonna affect the images taken by this?
@@renevile I don't think there's a way of photographing around them considering the density of the satellites as over 10,000 more are planned to be launched.
@@renevile it would've been cooler if they were able to launch this into space.... Uk like the upcoming James Webb telescope
@@vinaysridhar7306 And not just that, there are a lot of other satellites up there. I don't get why people pick on starlink. Maybe its the media buzz around them?
The price was not even half a billion, America alone spend 1600 times that much money on War every single year, imagine if that money was spent on actual science to better mankind.
When this is done, I would LOVE to see a deep field shot into Bootes Void.
introducing the iPhone 20
Wow. Will be so nice to see the planets , comets and other objects moving in time lapse.
cia USA army and fbi and: can we have a drive test pleaseee
The Vera Rubin is a beast of a telescope that has not gotten near the publicity it deserves. In my opinion, its influence will dwarf the JWST by a lot. It's so upgradable, too. It is a scope for far into the future for sure.
*Chinese cellphone makers in few years :*
*breaks and explodes in 4 seconds*
So when can I get this on the next iPhone?
_But Does it have a phone_
Lovely 🥰🥰 brilliant work
Sounds expensive', you could of fed the earth's starving children's children's children wif dat kina moneys ;[) LoL''''''''''''''
No... you couldn't...
fed em 1g uranium, you got 20billion calories on that
@@Marv0712 lol, I was just saying' 😉
This made me warm and fuzzy.
I was already waiting for JWST for quite a long time and now this. Just can't wait for them now!
to think that our newer generations is luckier to be educated by the results of our current technology rather than 20 years ago, man
Incredible. I always enjoy Technical upgrades.
I love how the fruits of these achievements are just shared freely in the scientific community.
Like "here, this is two decades of work, perhaps you can use it."
I wish someone would explain how we know where we are in the Universe positionally and how it was worked out. Thanks
Thank you humanity. Humans are so great much respect to the people creating things to make life easier and scientific studies
Can't wait to see the final footage.
The question is can it take good selfie?
Wow - can’t wait to see the pictures!
This is absolutely amazing! I can’t wait to see the images!
Great update 👍😀
Thanks for sharing 👍😀
Cant wait to pop up my 20k vr headset and look around the universe
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the awesome CGI, and the artists behind it, that enable us to perceive the universe like we never would've been able to.
So, there are megapixels and giga pixels. Will there ever be a Terapixel?
Fascinating and wonderful video. Thanks very much!
That's why technology should be ONLY in the RIGHT HANDS!
Physics Girl has fantastic look behind the scenes at them working on the glass lens.
omg the depth perception it will be capable of
I want this camera on a space telescope orbiting Mars, looking for caves, canyons, cliffs, anyplace a biosphere can economically be constructed on Mars.
I would like to see looking at a big white field, something like the Moon but much further away, and seeing if anything transits it. A rogue planet, something in the Oort Cloud, asteroid, dark old star, Black Hole, or that unknown thing.
Wow....what a kickass high tech facility....stunning technology and work.
wait so what the last dude was saying that the light /data might be old and what we are seeing might not even be there anymore.... or am i overthinking
"You can only afford to understand them as a whole humanity"... I like that....
what kind of storage they going to use?
If this is succesful it will be one of the most important moments both in the history of human technology and in science.
What about galaxies or stars behind other galaxies or stars, won't the light be blocked?
absolutely astounding
I am too excited to view those stunning images, I love to gaze 🌟 .
Will each picture of an area be like the one before so that the area where the CCD frame is at will never be seen, or will each be shifted a bit in both X and Y?