The Last Kyrgyz Nomads of the Afghan Pamir | FULL DOCUMENTARY
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024
- The documentary catpures the life of the last Kyrgyz nomads of the Afghan Pamir. Imprisoned between three borders, they have experienced famine, exile, war and persecution. The only place where they have found security and peace is the hidden depths of Central Asia. Despite the hardships and extremely inhospitable terrain, these people have managed to survive and maintain their traditional way of life against all odds.
Documentary: PRISONERS OF THE AFGHAN PAMIR
Directed by: Louis Meunier
Production: Taimani Films
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I cannot imagine how women manage to live in these harsh conditions. Great respect to them.
@bluespangle" "I cannot imagine how women..." Did you miss something "one-third" of women die in childbirth". That's why women are so expensive, that is why the price is 100 sheep for a bride.
PS: I don't feel sorry for these people living the way they do. These people were very happy living the way they have for generations.
By the way, these people were allowed to return to their way of life, and that's a Blessing. The North American Indians were removed "forcibly" to live on reservations and suffer permanently the kind of suffering these people were having in the short time the "social experiment" was in force.
@@fritzsmith3296also many full bloodeds don't live on the rez
@@fritzsmith3296I don't believe that 2/3rds of women die in childbirth. If they do, something is definitely wrong and their ancestors obviously didnt have that problem. If it's TRUE, they've probably ALL died out by now.
@@fritzsmith3296opium seems to be a big problem.
Womans have to know everything what we have done for woman's better life .Who , on the West, have to live and fight every day ? Have womans heavy life ? You , Western Womans , Feminists , you can see on examples how feminism and equal rights looks like in practice .
Do you really want to this equal.rights in dutys?
I remember life like this on my grandparents farm in the 1960s . No electricity, no running water . This was in the Bosnian mountains.
A very hard life . But this is way harder .
I come from the Amish; no electricity, etc...we lived very well. I am Conservative Mennonite now and its a great life❤
That’s a false analogy
@opybrook7766 you realise it's not just a lack of electricity here? 4500 meters, permanent cold, often freezing, no heat, no proper shelter, no food other than sheep, no vegetation, no infrastructure, no nothing.
@@opybrook7766 Its freaking cold where these nomads live with almost no source of life. Its like a forever winter
@@biancanagy3342 the devils guard . Book set somewhere over there .
You can tell these men that I am a shepherd who lives in Australia, and I don't watch my herd with a computer. I have a horse, six sheep and about 20 chickens. I am a widow and I own about 20 acres of land. Life is tough for me here, but not as hard as it is for you. My prayers are with you.
I'm a shepherd myself and I do watch my herd with computer
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@@Otoyepthoa shepherd from which country are you?
Which part of Australia you are?
You just compared herself to real shepherds.
Wow. This was amazing. I loved the conversations between the men when they were arguing about watching herds with machines, that made me smile.
my heart just broke for that family who's father and husband is smoking opium. life is tough over there and he is making it even harder for them but he cant help it his addiction is in control i hope he gets better
Same, that's an extremely hard life
For those wondering when this film was made, it came out in 2012 with the title "Prisonniers de l'Himalaya" (Prisoners of the Himalayas).
Do you know where they are now?
I'm curious too .....
What tough resilient people they are.
I wish them many blessings and prosperous lives..
I'm loving the documentaries! You've done a lot of work to make them happen.
Incredible. I wonder if Oroon got to Turkey? And if the son got married? They all seemed so humble and strong!
This is how it was in the UK the past too - half of children not surviving to age 5. One of my great grandmothers had 9 children and only 3 survived to age 21. I have visited the grave stones of all the dead babies. By other great grandmother had 11 - 10 survived - but two husbands died. There was more death. In the film it says a third of women die in childbirth - it was the same in the UK until more recent times. I saw this programme 10 years ago. It would be lovely to know how they are all doing today in 2024. I wish them well and hope they can all given up opium and cigarettes.
i worked in this country before, even thou its quite dangerous working there i still manage to finish a contract in this country, what i miss more is the foods, the people who are very welcoming ang friendly. i stilll wants to visit it again and eat the authentic kabuli and also mantho
What was dangerous about it the environment or other people trying to kill you?
We have a village called Ulupamir(Great Pamir) in Van province of Turkey. They are relatives of Kyrgyz people in Turkey.
Those kirghiz in turkey are the immigrant from the pamir of Afghanistan. Many of them have be in turkey but many of them are still in Afghanistan.
Living in America, “the people who sell opium are demons,” hit my soul hard. Hundreds of thousands of miles away from Wali and his family, my heart understands his. May God bless him and keep his family safe and well. It’s so sad to know what he fighting, and how hopeless he must feel. 😢
Afghanistan is the capital of the poppy fields.
@@sandrabentley8111 yes, the fields have increased under American control!! The Taliban destroys and punishes poppy cultivation and their numbers have declined catastrophically since the departure of the saviors from the United States😂😂
@@yunususmanov2810Right
@@yunususmanov2810 There is no heroin on the streets, hasn't bin for about 8 years atleast dude, it's all fentanyl now. Whatever high horse your own you can get off because you don't even know what you're talking about.
Astounding. And I don't know what mastermind was behind the filming but BRAVO!!! Well done! God bless these people. Can't even begin to imagine a life like this. The strength of these of these people is mind-blowing.
Thanks so much!
Thank you for this. It’s wonderful to see life before modern ruined it. I wonder how are now. Do you have update where are they and how are they doing?
It's heartbreaking to see the poor men in such terrible conditions they are trapped in the harsh nightmare of addiction to opioid poison it's such a shame but I do sympathise with them a great deal !
Beautiful documentary
It was painful to watch so much hardship and grief (through their addiction) - i wish them well x
Big props to the production crew and cameraman. I’m sure their not used to those conditions. They do this so we can watch from out sofas and beds!!!
Как же нас кыргызов разбросало-то по миру. Енисейские кыргызы в России уже настолько ассимилированы с местными народами, что не осталось тех, кто помнит, что он кыргыз; Фуюй кыргызы в Китае тоже практически ассимилировались, хотя и называют себя кыргызами, но их язык уже трудно понять; кыргызы в Кыргызстане тоже уже не 100% чистые кыргызы, а Памирские кыргызы будто застряли в прошлом, да еще и на грани вымирания.
Жаль, очень жаль.
Держитесь братья и сестры кыргызы.
Может Кыргызтанға правительство программу открыть по переселению кырғызов в Қырғызтан ?
Как в Қазақстане пргорамма Назарбаева по желанию переселения этничғских казахов в Қазақстан
Эти не знают, что есть Киргизия?
Не разбрасывало вас. Вы- кочевники, кочевали как и куда глаза глядят. Эти оказались из за появления границ между странами на крыше гор, они не выбирали, их аытеснили с долин. Народ мигрирует туда, где ьезопасно и есть условия выжива5ия. Войны, конфли3ты из- за пастбиш, воды или броее лучшие условия... Енисейские не совс4м и киргизы. Язык - не самое главное. Слияние кудьтур с другими народами, условия климата и быта, границы с другими экономиками определяют народ. Что общего между памирским киргизом и енисейским? Или уйгуром?
@@sonsida7844 откуда они знают, в советской школе не учились же, это же всё "ужасные комм..уни...сты" изобрели
@@KhadiyaTaktash what does communism have to do with it?
Full of beauty be it ups and downs in life, the Kyrgyz people are very dedicated and enjoy a solid and concrete bodage within their tribal life style, in simplicity they are a sweet pack of people who should be adored with respect.
Excellent documentary
Yes it is
Amazing documentry
Years ago I watched a video about this tribe and it makes me sad to see their lives have become so hard. The opium dealer isn’t worried because he can just keep making the debt high enough so that he will then get a bride. Addicts should be forced out with nothing or go through withdrawals and get better.
This is the first time I hear Kyrgyz (Kirghiz) speak Farsi/ Dari among themselves. The ones I met in China spoke Kirghiz which was remarkably close to Kazakh.
Respect and power to the kyrgyz women ❤❤
I don't think they need power, I think they need sanitation. Such a high mortality rate is almost certainly caused by infections.
But yes mothers should have respect.
They cheeks constantly red, must've been allergic to all what they eat
@@KhadiyaTaktashno it’s because of the harsh Sunrays at that height u see in all nomadic mountains people
Such a beautiful culture, government must protect this people
what goverment? Afgan goverment?
The government will do nothing its muslim ,they have no care for own ,,why would they care about these poor people ,,if they had a little help the women wouldn't be dying out ,,then they would have a chance to thrive ,and increase their numbers .but with adult members addicted they don,t have chance ,,😢
I am not judging anyone especially this Afghan Kyrgish. They really need intervention or help but the saddest part is that they are in Afghanistan. The drugs problem are what worries me most. Whether it be America or Japan every drug users faced the same problem. The household, children and wives are affected. Can you imagine some of them never seen a doctor or any sort of medical practitioners in there lives.100 sheep's for a wives is unattainable for most of them. Please God help this lovely community. We beg Your kind intervention. In Jesus mighty name
This is so sad. Such a hard life.
Women are suffering be it the mother or daughter.😢
Бул да болсо кыргыздын эркиндикти суйгону ,жонокойлугу,динин ,тилин сактап баскынчы душмандардан качканы,Кудай колдосун!
Thats why they didn't pick the older brother to be the Chief. Because he is addicted to drugs.
Почему-то до слез жалко этих людей. Конечно, это самобытная и красивая культура, но мужчины не могут создать семью, потому что не хватает ресурсов, а женщины погибают из-за отсутствия медицинской помощи. Это суровые законы выживания, но не в современном мире, где медицина доступна. Современная цивилизация также имеет массу проблем, но делает жизнь хотя бы легче.
Дайте им цивилизацию мужчины сначала станут лысыми , многие умрут от рака и цирроза печени из за продуктов, которые отравлены . Мои родственники живут на Памире. После развала СССР привезли гумпомощь из Европы и Америки. Очень много людей получили гепатит и позже цирроз, женщины стали умирать от рака
@@lolaabdulloeva9063 В цивилизованном мире у вас есть выбор какие продукты употреблять. В ситуации, которую вы описываете, речь идет не об изменении условий жизни, которые приносит цивилизация, а о преступных действиях - отправке в бедные страны некачественных продуктов питания. Это бизнес, ничего личного. Если бы Киргизия их приняла, люди получили бы доступ к нормальному жилью, медицине и образованию, но Киргизия сама бедна и не может оказать фининсовую поддержку.
Poor Animals! God please help out! 🙏✝️❤️
There was one small mistake in the translation; in the game with a goat, the prize is not - cigarettes, but the goat. The winning team eats the goat.
How life is intended to be. No iPhone nor PS5...just good plain pastural, nomadic lifestyle. Respect for elders and respect for all around
Why respect for elders? People should respect everybody equally, not just elders
Working together, sharing together, building a life together.
And opium addiction!…..stop glorifying everything. This world is sick. It seems like there is no escape from it 😢
Just viewed a video about poverty in the USA...most of it caused by drugs additiction....in the old community of this Kyrgyz people it seems to be the same......
60% of people on welfare are single mothers. So I'd say divorce or lack of marriage is the leading cause of poverty. Drug addicts and alcoholics make up most of the homeless population ( except that's changing now, many homeless are old people and the working homeless due to immigration driving up housing costs. Among other things.)
Deaths of despair they call them. That said these nomads have children, so the future, even such a harsh one is ensured, this is not the case in developed countries, we are facing the probable end unless we throw off the comfy blankets of decadence and self-conceit.
I have seen this video before, part 2 would be great, thank you.
Very interesting documentary
Thank you very much for watching, don't hesitate to subscribe !
Lord, please help these community. They don't need drugs 😢 they will have the joy and strength of the Lord.
Thank you to the whole team of producer for this insightful documentary.
Life was hard, simple and challenging; however everyone looks healthier in body, mind and spirit comparing to the people in many western countries - materialistic way of life, drug, fashion, celebrity culture, mundane talk shows, magazines and newspapers on fame, wealth, football, Red Bull, formula 1....
Material wealth does not bring true happiness. People who can endure difficulties in life such as cold, scarcity of food, simple living ...will be able to survive in next life.
Evidently not too healthy. One man said his dsughyrts have been sick a while and women and children die at a high rate. Likely it's due to scarcity of food.
I agree that we are not in a good state. Not sure one could call theirs better whoever. You can be both virtuous and capable of flourishing, indeed they are causal. I don't think high child morality or living in a tent make morality, faith, works and tradition do.
They are not happy. They are enslaved to opium, the death rate is very high, are enslaved to their culture even if that means their downfall. They need Jesus to set them free and so does the western world.
@user-qr7sv6sc7d Clearly you missed the stats re: 30% maternal death & 50% of kids dying before age 5! I don't know how anyone could consider those odds 'better'. Also drugs; many of them are addicted!
Whatever the faith brandished around as the one and only....piff ...just thank the Creator, send out love to Gia, the plants, animals, trees, rocks, humanity and live in a caring sharing loving way... Give and help others to teach peace, love and happiness... blessings darlings from Granny Linda in OZ........
Beautiful documentary ❤
Incredible people incredible place
Thank you very much for your support, don't hesitate to subscribe ;)
One more sad thought - is there anywhere too remote in this for the opioid epidemic to reach?
It's not a problem to the East due to harsh law enforcement, not there now either as the Taliban have suppression of it as a primary aim and don't take half-measures.
Afghanistan is just close by. They are the leading producers of poppies for opium.
I was very happy to see that the young ladies new husband was handsome and had a smile on his face.
Yes, and she is 18 so I didn't agree when it says she was barely out of childhood. 18 will be physically okay for babies whereas 14 is often not.
Very Good Hearted
Thank you!
The way they treat their women no wonder they die so often ,,they will die out ,,through addiction and harsh lives ,😢
But also though losing so many women and babies ,,💔🥀
Afghanistan is the most beautiful country in the world. I hope one day the Taliban are defeated and I can return as a tourist.
Thank you for your Excellent video. I feel bad for that opinion addict. From London, England.
Thank you so much for watching!
Very good information for the whole world know that these tribe exist.
They must be enjoying their tribe so well, that they chose to be away from the modern community. With their values & culture for many years embedded to their mindset, it would be very difficult to change it - to live with the modern community. Only formal classroom education during their formative years can actually give them the mindset to accept change.
Great video-info. Thank you for sharing. I am sad for their flight as a tribe - after all; poverty is a choice.
Very strong and brave women ❤❤❤❤
Power to the Kyrgyz ☺💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
U r from Krygstan 🇰🇬?
I saw this same kind of documentary 4 years ago? It is really up to them; everyone knew they deserved "help", and perhaps the best way of helping if they don't want to go back to Kyrgiztan is helicopter drops of supplementary food for the herds. The Kuchii are an insular group with more connection into Pakistan, but have a far richer area for grazing as they migrate north-south instead of east-west. This is the other tribe they would have most in common with as far as hardship or empathy, but the Kuchii have much more Pamiri features and bloodlines than an isolated Waki tribe. Personally I think the Waki need to stop seeing themselves as a separate group of Kyrgiz and start seeing themselves more as a part of the family of man. I don't think anyone is going to be in a hurry to take over their corridor grazing lands if they make an exit for awhile.
Helicopter drops of food is an excellent idea. There are so much money and food in the modern world the only hurdle in being able to help these peoples IS THE EXCESSIVE GREED OF SOME POLITICIANS!
They have such style for being in the middle of nowhere
This life seems quite harsh & the women seems to do much of the work, so you really got to ask does a culture that doesn't respect or value its women deserve rescuing & preserving?
If you judge like this, then you can say the same about any culture, since almost all cultures are patriarchal.
Fabulous photography !!!
Wow how do they live life like this must be really difficult. They are strong people
Beautiful ❤️
Stay Strong Brothers and Sisters
Truly amazing..💛☘
Thanks so much!
Tough life but sweet too with its ups snd downs!
Thank you for the documentary.I helped one of these people with my own money.Although i am young and not so much rich but i will use my all money for poor peoples like them.There are a lot of tribes like them in Afganistan,pakistan and africa.Due to zionist slave invasions these peoples are not getting governments concentration.
By the way,Thank you very much from an Afganistan,Kunduz
Aaah more Zionist crap why always does this have to be said ?
Slice, gracias por el documental
Like many of us, we would love to keep hold of our culture and traditions, so i can see how even outside help may be rejected by these people... they have managed for so long, forever.... their lifestyle and ways are precious and finely balanced and grounded in history.... however, among other evils, such as war and the persecution that they have endured, the introduction of opiates is just pure evil....look how it devastating them.... typical approach to destroying us all.... 😢 I despair...
Through all human history several cultures and societies have collapsed and no longer exist. It's normal.
Blame Afghanistan for that. Biggest grower of poppies in the world. Farmers get more for it than growing veggies. Most Afghans are addicts.
@@sandrabentley8111Its your western army who bought opium here.Now it is banned
This life is too hard on every one of the poor women.
This life has broken the men and they need to consider change for the sake of their children.
Child birth mortality rate at 1/3 !
Mother's dead after the first birth !
Come on !
They need modern health care modern medicine how can a father watch his children writhing in pain what about dental health !
Their sheep/wife trading under these circumstances is their obvious downfall.
Вас правда волнует их жизнь ?Легко сидеть на диване и осуждать,они верующие и живут свободно и им поможет только Бог,крах у вас !
I think they're Muslims and marrying a woman requires a dowry ( which is negotiable between the two, parties), but most people stick to tradition even if it's making their life miserable. I understand that the dowry is -to a certain extent - a way to transfer wealth among the tribe but still they should adapt to the current circumstances.
@@WILDSPIRIT-nw5ip the tradition is fine. The man said they used to trade for s couple of sheep or yak. Plus they have an opium problem. But I agree with the poster, the 100 sheep thing is their downfall and alot are being traded for opium.
@@WILDSPIRIT-nw5ipoh yeah, and for muslims the dowry is for the woman if they divorce.
Or it's the opium...
That Opium seller is a good salesman. He said, ''Opium is good for you. That's your only medicine''
Yeah, I can see how a small community like that would need 2 huge bags of opium over 1 year. 🙄
He's a liar. He traps men with free samples to get them hooked, then drains away the wealth of many families, for himself, from greed. Great salesman indeed. Definitely typical.
Tough life 😢
Sometimes TRADITIONAL make your life harder
Very tough life.
That's the kind of wedding I would rather go to
the upside down clock is highly symbolic of their lives
Should have gotten supplies before winter. If they could have .
Nomads who want to cling to their lives should be encouraged, not transformed into something they don’t want to be.
What Christianity has to do with this escapes me totally (see other comments).
It is not excluded that Christian nomads existed at the time of the Aksumite kings (early christianity) in the eastern African Sahel, although today they tend to be Muslim.
Nomads being Christian or not did not prevent states to try to sedentarize them at all cost. Yet real nomads do not care about state boundaries and are very protective of their way of life and their customs.
Have you tried catching and keeping a wild bird? Eventually, it might languish and die in its “golden, modern” cage. That’s why nomads always try to break free. Maybe these nomads’ lifestyle is more “modern” than the most modern of all amenities you can offer them.
I don’t want to live like a nomad, but for sure nomads have one thing or two to teach us… irrespective of their religion or non-religion.
I might have to get me a kyrgyz hat
its ridiculous what parents have to give for their daughters in those hard times, they should care more for each other
Was helping her ❤ pray😊 35:39
I am sorry that they've ended up in Afghanistan. You should've been with your tribe and people without lossing your present land.
They don’t have power but I saw a tv in there stuff around 18:30 minutes
Culturally is very interesting, but when you don’t progress and improve your lives with new thought, invention, sciences, medicine, etc then this is what happens to ones displaced group of ppl. High mortality rates, women stuck to antiquated practices with feeling no value other than what they been taught by the “men” eventually this group will disappear. Sad that they are so stubborn about change that they’ll die to practices that are extremely antiquated. And then add on top of that, drug abuse…….
I think the clans leader first words tot he camera, says a lot about their future. He said I am the most important man of the area. I don't think communities that give all importance to one person can with stand for very long. They should all be looked at as equally important with one person as a leader, not a ruler.
It is quiteTibetan Nomadic life as well..
No electricity, but a television set in their house?? (51:22)
A solar panel?
Anybody know what the red may indicate?
Red is an auspicious colour in all of asia representing fertility and goodwill.
That’s awful! Smoking opium and forever addicted! 😔
I like how in the conversation about 'no shepards, computers watch the sheep," They're both right and wrong. We still have shepards everywhere. Just not that many.
I don’t understand when they say they are poor, but they have beautiful material for their clothes and they wear those big long scarves over their heads and all weather in the wind and they waste flower. I know it’s a tradition but if you don’t have the money for food, I would think that they’d have to change their ways so it confuses me how they spend their money not to mention the poor people who are on opium. They can’t figure out how to get off of it. It’s sad. I know what happens all around the world.
Go before it snows. Maybe a snow plow. That's hard work. For man and animals
the kyrgyz are a beautifulllllllll people living a genuine and real existence and life. they are the rich ones and anyone who attempts to alter their path is a thief and con artist
Я понимаю женскую речь на 90%, мужскую же практически вообще не понимаю. Как так, удивительно.
Мужчины в основном говорили на дари!
So happy I'm sober
Mmy best wishes for documentary made on kyrgyz tribe on pamir platu of afghanistan nice beautiful documentary they are divided in to four countries i am not mention a tribe who live in nature keeping sheepheards yaks and wonderes on pamir platu from centuries for search of grazing land source of money is wool sheeps cheese and dairy products horses and yaks are for use of transportation i feel this is brave and fighter tribe face adverse conditions of nature excellent horse rider but faraway from today''s world lack of education communication facilities homes etc focusing on Afghan kyrgyz no hope from this terriorest goverenment my appeal to united nations please provide them basic amnities provide food shelter open schools for education to the childerns and give them chance to reach modern world thanks
thanks so much!
33:00 I wonder if he was able to take the sick children along for medical care. At least his relatives can help him bring back some otc medicines.
How do they manage personal hygene and toileting?
They also look related to Tibetan peoples (?)
Qırğız are Turks, not Tibetan.
The Afghan government, which is currently in power, has shown no attention to this segment of the population in the most remote areas of Afghanistan. This is one of the betrayals of the Afghan government-a government widely accused of treachery, corruption, and theft.
Are these people Muslim ?
Where is the next part
This is the Full Documentary
Why they need 100 sheep if they want to maintain the survival of the tribe cut off to 50 sheep
Are this 100 sheep belong to the new wed or goes to the inlaws?
Sorry for them
Many people are or have lost their identity, culture or homeland. Gods promise is for righteous people to be united in love and to live in peace under his government (kingdom) with his son Jesus Christ as ruler (king). His gift was a beautiful life sustaining earth in which people could live forever according to his will and purpose. psalms 37:29. His purpose has not changed. He will step in and solve mankinds problems for those who love him. His name is Jehovah psalms 83:18. It is impossible for God to lie Hebrews 6:18
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