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I was a section 2IC in the South African Armed forces, We wore these jackets all over Aspecially in Africa, They are alright, I personally prefer the chest rig we wore in the DRC still a better review than what I can pull out of my ass
@TOP SECRET CLOWN BUSINESS Afrikaans boys joining the SANDF and fighting for the interest of the ANC isn't such a far cry from fighting for Satan worshippers lol. This isn't America, if you want to see combat, you want training and good pay, then there is a lot of options for us here that aren't the SANDF.
Back in Hong Kong airshit was the closest we could come to real steel. Shame that i couldn't find much airshit events in where I'm living (a small town in a somewhat conservative state)
Non permissive environments leave little other option yo. Whether you're shooting plastic or lead, you still get the general handling reps in with Gas Guns at least. And a gas blowback airsoft L85 will ruin your day when fired left handed just like a real one... 🤔🇬🇧🇹🇼
@@ladykiller4832 I'm currently in the US and already have a real AR and AK thanks. Obviously I would much rather shoot my friends with an airsoft still lol
These were very popular in the British army in the pre molle days (infantry). I preferred a proper chest rig instead of a vest, but loads of guys love those things.
Thay were very popular in my unit for Northern Ireland tours. We did a lot of helicopter ops. My section commander loved his battle jacket. He had a dpm version.
Extremely hard to beat the DPM look. FAL, DPM smock and beret is iconic, arguably moreso than FAL, some shorts and brushstroke. One was used by racists to hunt undernourished indigenous peoples, the other was used by a modern, western force to defend a territory in near-peer conflict
It was used as a combo, combo 1 : pattern 83 chest rig (6 mags) 2 grenades and smoke grenade, bandage , and battle jacket - 8 to 10 mags, 4 liter of h2o , 2 rat packs food for two days, inner , straps to attach extra 60mm mortar rounds or 2 RPG grenades, each man carried a drip and bandages, could also carry an lmg belt of 50 rounds, could also hold a A53 radio and batteries, 40mm M79 grenades - plenty of fire power for a stick of 11 men or valk of 22 men during fire force ops of coin ops or pattern 83 chest rig and rucksack, was every good for wearing first line ammo, and every thing you needed for a 14 day patrol . Rig was also designed for para jumps , USED it in 1982 in northern Namibia and Angola
Brings back some great memories of slinging lead at both sides during my time in the SADF during the "Township Wars" in the early 90`s, some of the best fireworks shows i`ve ever seen, cleaning up the bodies the next day was a bit of a kak job but, a fun and interesting time to be alive and getting shot at...
@@taskforceboi8977 Thanks Bro. Not much footage around of those days, but, there is a pretty good film called The Bang Bang Club that covers that strange conflict that erupted in the couple of years run up to the 1994 elections, if you haven`t seen it i`d recommend giving it a look see...
@@LaughingMan44 it`s from a book, all based on fact, like I said, there isn`t much in the way of footage from those days so just something to watch on the subject, the film does take a slight slant onto the ANC`s side of the story though, seeing as they technically "Won" the township wars and ended up ruling the country that didn`t come as much of a surprise...watch with an open mind...as you should do with everything...
It was very popular in the Aussie Army in the 90s and a Aussie version was built in the late 90s early 2000s . Many were worn in East Timor I wore one on Ops but modified it with most of my mags on the left with smaller mag pouches.I made the hydration pack removable.And a dump pouch rolled up on the left. SA water bottles were also very popular and Aussie versions were made.
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I picked up a pat-83 repro made by mil-tec because my previous web gear finally crapped out and surplus for that kit has dried up in my area. I have a few points to make for anyone curious as to my personal observations before anyone goes the same route I do: Starting with pros; the vest can realistically carry everything you need for a short term period in the field. I could probably stretch it out to a week with some bushcraft tricks and a decent water filter before I lose my paddle up shits creek, but I also spent my teen years sleeping on the sidewalk and eating actual garbage. Mag pouches are abundant and the "saddle bags" on the sides can each hold a common large soda bottle with some wiggle room, which I do when using it as a weight vest to work out. The backpack on the vest can also carry extra field kit like rain covers, socks n undies, hydration bladders, you name it. Anything that is too bulky to be rolled up into a pouch on the vest can easily be strapped directly to the back with the loose web straps that line the rear side of the vest, which I can also see being used to attach field tools like machetes or shovels if you want to go full innawoods. It holds weight well and I imagine with a decent amount of mileage, it would even be comfortable to wear even with just a t-shirt, as the material is basically straight up cordurawith nylon mesh padding and a few waterproof panels for the pouches not unlike what you'd find in an ALICE pack, so, as long as you have some kind of over-shirt, you're /chilling/. There are some notable cons however, but all non-modular equipment has them. It's simply a matter of training to work around what you got: 1 - there are soo many pouches on the vest that it quickly becomes easy to forget what you have and /where/ it is and the last thing you want to be doing if you need to be wearing this thing is patting yourself down like a drunk who's lost their keys. Designate a role to all your pouches, and don't fuck with that system. I use the designated IFAK pouch on the front left side of the vest to carry a light and bino's as underneath that pouch there's an interior pouch for admin shit and that all goes hand in hand in that same spot. It would be great real estate for more mag pouches but trust me when I tell you; you don't need em. Why not carry an IFAK there? Because when the vest was designed, Israeli bandages were about as good as trauma gear got and the pouch is too small to carry a good kit you can just rip out, organize, and go to work with. It was probably great for the time but nowadays it's better to have something on your back that someone can peel off your ass so they can properly wipe it. 2 - vest has tooons of straps and buckles on it, which is great for adjustability assuming you can keep track of all of it, which, if you don't, could leave you in one of two scenarios. Either A ) you get grabbed by your environment and left to dangle around helplessly like a bad guy in a spiderman movie, or B ) you fail to adjust everything to your proper size which can leave you lugging around a bunch of heavy shit that jingles, jangles, and takes the wind out of you when you boogie. 3 - the system wasn't designed with body armor in mind and it will let you know. I tried rocking a low profile plate carrier underneath and the front straps of the vest where the chest pockets sit refused to sit tight without splaying off the carrier and sitting on my shoulders which kinda fucks my fung-sheui. It seems to play nice with flak jackets and I imagine going ham on it with some carabiners, clips, and electrical tape like an OG body-stacker could probably yield some decent results. Also, if you tighten the shoulder straps too tight, the backpack will bump into your helmet if you go prone and keep you from getting a sight picture. I'm short: this is a piece of kit that suits grunts who sit in holes or patrol vehicles. It's not low drag by any means but if you're cool with packing heavy and carrying shit for your crew, it'll do you good.
In the early 90s I was a wildland firefighter and we didn't have all the awesome packs available today, so we used all sorts of military gear to carry our stuff . Several guys were using the pattern 83 gear and modified the rear pack to carry a hydration bag. They loved them.
My husband used this equipment during his time in the South African Defense force i met my husband after his service when he visited his mothers relatives in Shizuoka. I see my husband’s pictures from his service times and it’s interesting to see my husband in a different light.
I have a new condition pattern 70 rig I picked up for $20 on Sportsman’s Guide back when they had some good deals on unique military surplus from around the world. It goes great with the FAL.
Grew up reading the SOF magazines in the 80's and all of the pictures of the Bush wars in Namibia/SW Africa showed the PAT70/73 and the PAT83 setup. But growing up, I was desperate for the Brown Nutria boonie hat they had. It just looked cooler than the American ones. Got lucky on a preban Galil and so wanted to do the R4 rifle setup but parts was expensive especially their version of furniture. All together, I've met several ZA veterans and they seemed happy with the PAT83.
Never wore it personally, but they were a popular alternative in the British Army in the late '90s to early '00s. I knew a few guys in my regiment who wore them on patrol in NI; I personally preferred a belt setup, or in some situations a chest rig. I would certainly argue that they were probably better constructed and more ergonomical than the COP vests typically available to UK military at the time.
Never served in the military, but I used this battle jacket for the 5 years that I was a volunteer wildfire fighter. You can cram a crazy amount of gear into the pockets although the ones by your hips made walking tedious as your hands could never be down by your sides. I also joined the two pouches on the center of the back to fit a large hydration bladder, which came in useful.
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I have used this vest in action... Very good piece of kit... Also great for weekend hikes, adventure rides or hunting. Picked up an unissued one today for less than 20USD here in South Africa... A word of advise... If you can get an original SADF item, grab it with both hands as they are becoming VERY rare here these days.
I still use custom modified version of it at work. For AK mags, you need to sew a longer strip of velcro on the pouches. And side release buckles for utility pouches for quick access.
These were popular in the NZ army, and I believe twin needle and saber tactical make a molle version of the pattern 83 but they're made to order and only available in coyote tan and multi cam, so do with that information what you will. I wish I still had one I would have sent it to him haha
Varusteleka is making a chestrig based on the pattern 83. The battle jacket and chestrig was defintely ahead of its time especially the chest rig. Who knows maybe varusteleka wil oneday try and do a modular modern battle jacket based on this one. Would be interesting to see it.
No. Varusteleke is making one based on the 83. Their stuff is some of the best quality one can get. Its not made in china BS. It has a premium price because its quality.
These old school “fixed” vests still have application this day and age. I have an Artkis jungle vest that I use often and it is comfy as all get out. The SA 83 is a good piece of kit. Cheers.
Kommando Store has made a repro pattern 83 chest rig. It's only a matter of time until they cave into popular demand. Also you live in Arizona, how the frick are you so pale?
I wore one on my 1st Deployment with the Australian Inf in East Timor 2000-2001 & loved it at the time. We had such old gear that we were allowed to purchase our own rigs as long as our Sec Commanders were happy it could do the job (If you see pic's of Australian Inf around then you'll see all sorts of webbing). Had to paint the thing so it looked more "Aussie" though! Never used the back-pack, it was either a full pack, my Med-kit or a camel back.
My dad during his time in the SADF he served (1985-1989) wore the pattern 83, during his time in the Angolan bush war he always tells me how he loved the '83' as he calls it . he served with 2nd recce as a 2nd lieutenant to my knowledge as he doesn't talk much. so i don't know the specifics.
It would probably make a good bugout vest. Enough pouches to hold basic bugout/survival gear (water bottles/canteens, bladder, tools, poncho/tarp, etc) as well as some mags for your AR
South African paratrooper here. The piece that’s missing in your kit is the chest-rig that fits under the battle jacket. It’s part of a 3 piece system, the 3rd part is the H frame Bergen. Together, the chest rig and battle jacket can accommodate 10 30 round. Mags, six grenades, water, ration pack and radio unit.
The US kinda copied these with the LBV-88 and the LBV-E system, and those are still relatively cheap and plentiful. Less capable, but its compatible with all the OG ALICE stuff. Need to see that in a Panama video.
I never knew this was an actual used piece of kit. I've seen and owned a cheaper airsoft version of it and never knew the history behind the design. Wild.
I remember a catalog when I was younger full of just random crap kind of like the BUDK catalogs I believe it was called the Outdoorsman but they always featured that vest in there and it was super cheap I always wanted one but never got it.
Typically, the battle jackets were worn while on patrol, or as a 1 day kit. Other wise for longer objectives the p83 chest rig and Grootsak combination was used
Sportsman's guide used to sell repros of these for like $20. I got one like 10-12 years ago and ran it with my AK74. Ended up giving it to my dad; he ended up taking it apart and adapting the shoulder and waist part to use on an Alice pack.
Holy shit, I'm glad I got one of those DNC button ups a few weeks ago, cause now that you've put one in a video they're gonna be sold out real damn quick
I have a bit of a love affair with the pattern 83, I have used it in multiple roles in multiple theatres, all the way up until 2022when I left my service. I worked within a recce role and worked with multiple recce troops from other nations. When you are set up and used to it, it makes for a very effective equivalent to other LBE, whilst not being modular there are certain ways you can sort of avoid this and add pouches into the adjustable areas of the rig. I would still highly recommend it and still maintain mine with a regular patrol load as a just in case sort of thing. I can throw it on and carry just about everything I need from ammunition, to navigation, to sustainment, to wet/dry kit, to comms and plenty more. I am by no means an expert but I would highly recommend this rig instead of traditional LBE or micro rigs and battle belts specifically in a recce capacity. Just as an aside with my own personal insights and with current world situations, I believe there will be a shift back from the well known high speed low drag direct action kits to a more traditional sustainment kit for the infantry and specialist units where LBE, webbing or whatever you locally call it will more apply. From my own service and still being in contact with certain members of certain units there is a lot more training going back into self sustainment (think SOG) so rigs like this will likely be modernised and re-applicated for a modern context
Ivan and his /k/ommando store is getting a new batch of these straight from SA. I already pre-ordered one in excellent+ condition. Outside of going out to shoot some fun, I really like that it could work perfectly as a hiking jacket. That top center pouch looks like it would be perfect for a CamelBak.
The radio pouch is great for a large 2-3L water bottle and a bivvy if you rip out the divider, and the left/right rear med/mg belt pouches are great for fitting a full "dixie" filled with chow on long patrols. I had the rarer driver variant rig as well that was more like a chicom pattern and better for short patrols and vehicle work (even half unfilled that radio pouch on the full rig hunches your body forward in a landie). If you can still find original surplus from SA they are Bush proof.
Classic LBE, I have an older ACU/ UCP US Army LBE I was issued when we phased to that camo and equipment and was supposed to mimic/ resonate this system quite a bit, still not as good as the original in my opinion.
Great thing about any pattern 83 kit ( pack, chest rig and vest) it will NOT break. Surplus store in Pretoria RSA literally has mountains of this stuff for around $70 a piece.
Wore this extensively for a few years. Great rig. Tbh all the new LBV vests (spiritus) is just a rip off of this rig with a bum pouch at the rear and a different shoulder harness. Even the pouches. Perhaps its a better version, i dont know. But this is definetly the OG of chest rigs.
I'm still rocking an old school CIRAS plate carrier and that's mainly because of it's carry capacity; there is some awesome older gear out there. Never tried the P83 BJ but I'm definitely interested.
Dude, I served in the SADF. This gear was designed for the R4 and R5 rifles. Also for the rest of the standard issue kit like water bottles and Dixies. (Pots and pans) you get the idea. Awesome battle jacket. With your gear, frags etc stowed correctly you can comfortably traverse long distances quietly. When things became interesting, your mags were easily accessible and you didn't feel the weight at all. Enjoy it.
I bought one of those years ago from a surplus shop, it must have been sitting in my closet for years I never gave it a thought until I saw this video.
In the case of many of the real battle jackets, you'll noticed the tags don't say "Made in South Africa", but rather "Made in [Insert Bantustan Here]", like Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei etc.
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A "modernish" version of this with a little bit different pouch setup and modern materials would be super cool
Lbt load bearing vest but its kinda pricey
@@brandonshepherd3317 yeah I wish everything lbt wasn't stupid expensive
You have discovered the Eagle Industries H-Harness
Check out the Aussie peacekeeper vests. An improved slightly reduced m83.
British soldiers tailored P83 alot,U can search that.
I was a section 2IC in the South African Armed forces, We wore these jackets all over Aspecially in Africa, They are alright, I personally prefer the chest rig we wore in the DRC still a better review than what I can pull out of my ass
Aweh who were you with?
@TOP SECRET CLOWN BUSINESS u ok bud?
@TOP SECRET CLOWN BUSINESS Afrikaans boys joining the SANDF and fighting for the interest of the ANC isn't such a far cry from fighting for Satan worshippers lol. This isn't America, if you want to see combat, you want training and good pay, then there is a lot of options for us here that aren't the SANDF.
@TOP SECRET CLOWN BUSINESS but that said you are insane. Good luck with that boet
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If Cod brings in the talking neck gator and he doesn't have a pattern 83 rig with the desert night shirt I would feel massively let down
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i'm so happy to see the airsoft community fusing with the real steel community more and more with all these guntubers starting to appreciate airsoft
Back in Hong Kong airshit was the closest we could come to real steel.
Shame that i couldn't find much airshit events in where I'm living (a small town in a somewhat conservative state)
@@CantoniaCustoms Play whit the real shit 😂
My heart goes with allies in non permissive territories. You're behind enemy lines. ✊✊✊
Non permissive environments leave little other option yo. Whether you're shooting plastic or lead, you still get the general handling reps in with Gas Guns at least.
And a gas blowback airsoft L85 will ruin your day when fired left handed just like a real one... 🤔🇬🇧🇹🇼
@@ladykiller4832 I'm currently in the US and already have a real AR and AK thanks.
Obviously I would much rather shoot my friends with an airsoft still lol
These were very popular in the British army in the pre molle days (infantry). I preferred a proper chest rig instead of a vest, but loads of guys love those things.
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Someone please make this into a short video with his voice introducing himself as both cut over the original audio
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Thay were very popular in my unit for Northern Ireland tours. We did a lot of helicopter ops. My section commander loved his battle jacket. He had a dpm version.
Extremely hard to beat the DPM look. FAL, DPM smock and beret is iconic, arguably moreso than FAL, some shorts and brushstroke. One was used by racists to hunt undernourished indigenous peoples, the other was used by a modern, western force to defend a territory in near-peer conflict
My section commander was using one when I got attached therein, looked really funky the way he painted it
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Best thing about it is it looks cool and we all know looking cool is the most important thing.
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It was used as a combo, combo 1 : pattern 83 chest rig (6 mags) 2 grenades and smoke grenade, bandage , and battle jacket - 8 to 10 mags, 4 liter of h2o , 2 rat packs food for two days, inner , straps to attach extra 60mm mortar rounds or 2 RPG grenades, each man carried a drip and bandages, could also carry an lmg belt of 50 rounds, could also hold a A53 radio and batteries, 40mm M79 grenades - plenty of fire power for a stick of 11 men or valk of 22 men during fire force ops of coin ops or pattern 83 chest rig and rucksack, was every good for wearing first line ammo, and every thing you needed for a 14 day patrol . Rig was also designed for para jumps , USED it in 1982 in northern Namibia and Angola
Thanks for sharing Henry regards from Poland
in the latest Kwazulu-natal riots south africa , the patern 83 was the best thing by my side i could not have fought for 3 days carrying my ammo
What’s the situation like there now? Any money making opportunities for former American special operations?
Crazy to hear
Brings back some great memories of slinging lead at both sides during my time in the SADF during the "Township Wars" in the early 90`s, some of the best fireworks shows i`ve ever seen, cleaning up the bodies the next day was a bit of a kak job but, a fun and interesting time to be alive and getting shot at...
Damn, war kinda sucks i guess. Glad your alive
@@taskforceboi8977 Thanks Bro.
Not much footage around of those days, but, there is a pretty good film called The Bang Bang Club that covers that strange conflict that erupted in the couple of years run up to the 1994 elections, if you haven`t seen it i`d recommend giving it a look see...
@@ca9968 That movie looks like kosher propoganda
@@LaughingMan44 it`s from a book, all based on fact, like I said, there isn`t much in the way of footage from those days so just something to watch on the subject, the film does take a slight slant onto the ANC`s side of the story though, seeing as they technically "Won" the township wars and ended up ruling the country that didn`t come as much of a surprise...watch with an open mind...as you should do with everything...
@@ca9968 "slight slant", I can tell just from the trailer it's liberal trash, bye bye!
kommando store started reproducing the 83 chest rig for a solid price now. chances are they will remake this aswell
This is it. I'm pretty sure. The repro is meN
Wish it wasnt only in regular and black multicam
I had a knockoff woodland version I used for search and rescue while in the C.A.P. from 2005-2007. Great for that purpose.
I used to wear a CADPAT Canadian version long ago for paintball games in the woods.
It's bulky, but it got the job done.
I’d like a review of the Pattern 69 balaclava please.
It was very popular in the Aussie Army in the 90s and a Aussie version was built in the late 90s early 2000s .
Many were worn in East Timor
I wore one on Ops but modified it with most of my mags on the left with smaller mag pouches.I made the hydration pack removable.And a dump pouch rolled up on the left.
SA water bottles were also very popular and Aussie versions were made.
How do these videos make my brain feel so good? The editor is a master of his craft. The way the scene cuts flow feeds the ADHD in my brain. Every episode is a masterpiece. Somebody give this guy a participation trophy! Big chimp vibes good.
I picked up a pat-83 repro made by mil-tec because my previous web gear finally crapped out and surplus for that kit has dried up in my area. I have a few points to make for anyone curious as to my personal observations before anyone goes the same route I do:
Starting with pros; the vest can realistically carry everything you need for a short term period in the field. I could probably stretch it out to a week with some bushcraft tricks and a decent water filter before I lose my paddle up shits creek, but I also spent my teen years sleeping on the sidewalk and eating actual garbage. Mag pouches are abundant and the "saddle bags" on the sides can each hold a common large soda bottle with some wiggle room, which I do when using it as a weight vest to work out. The backpack on the vest can also carry extra field kit like rain covers, socks n undies, hydration bladders, you name it. Anything that is too bulky to be rolled up into a pouch on the vest can easily be strapped directly to the back with the loose web straps that line the rear side of the vest, which I can also see being used to attach field tools like machetes or shovels if you want to go full innawoods. It holds weight well and I imagine with a decent amount of mileage, it would even be comfortable to wear even with just a t-shirt, as the material is basically straight up cordurawith nylon mesh padding and a few waterproof panels for the pouches not unlike what you'd find in an ALICE pack, so, as long as you have some kind of over-shirt, you're
/chilling/.
There are some notable cons however, but all non-modular equipment has them. It's simply a matter of training to work around what you got:
1 - there are soo many pouches on the vest that it quickly becomes easy to forget what you have and /where/ it is and the last thing you want to be doing if you need to be wearing this thing is patting yourself down like a drunk who's lost their keys. Designate a role to all your pouches, and don't fuck with that system. I use the designated IFAK pouch on the front left side of the vest to carry a light and bino's as underneath that pouch there's an interior pouch for admin shit and that all goes hand in hand in that same spot. It would be great real estate for more mag pouches but trust me when I tell you; you don't need em. Why not carry an IFAK there? Because when the vest was designed, Israeli bandages were about as good as trauma gear got and the pouch is too small to carry a good kit you can just rip out, organize, and go to work with. It was probably great for the time but nowadays it's better to have something on your back that someone can peel off your ass so they can properly wipe it.
2 - vest has tooons of straps and buckles on it, which is great for adjustability assuming you can keep track of all of it, which, if you don't, could leave you in one of two scenarios. Either A ) you get grabbed by your environment and left to dangle around helplessly like a bad guy in a spiderman movie, or B ) you fail to adjust everything to your proper size which can leave you lugging around a bunch of heavy shit that jingles, jangles, and takes the wind out of you when you boogie.
3 - the system wasn't designed with body armor in mind and it will let you know. I tried rocking a low profile plate carrier underneath and the front straps of the vest where the chest pockets sit refused to sit tight without splaying off the carrier and sitting on my shoulders which kinda fucks my fung-sheui. It seems to play nice with flak jackets and I imagine going ham on it with some carabiners, clips, and electrical tape like an OG body-stacker could probably yield some decent results. Also, if you tighten the shoulder straps too tight, the backpack will bump into your helmet if you go prone and keep you from getting a sight picture.
I'm short: this is a piece of kit that suits grunts who sit in holes or patrol vehicles. It's not low drag by any means but if you're cool with packing heavy and carrying shit for your crew, it'll do you good.
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In the early 90s I was a wildland firefighter and we didn't have all the awesome packs available today, so we used all sorts of military gear to carry our stuff . Several guys were using the pattern 83 gear and modified the rear pack to carry a hydration bag. They loved them.
Used one over a decade ago for airsoft when I was in high school, had no idea how based I was.
My husband used this equipment during his time in the South African Defense force i met my husband after his service when he visited his mothers relatives in Shizuoka. I see my husband’s pictures from his service times and it’s interesting to see my husband in a different light.
I have a new condition pattern 70 rig I picked up for $20 on Sportsman’s Guide back when they had some good deals on unique military surplus from around the world. It goes great with the FAL.
Grew up reading the SOF magazines in the 80's and all of the pictures of the Bush wars in Namibia/SW Africa showed the PAT70/73 and the PAT83 setup. But growing up, I was desperate for the Brown Nutria boonie hat they had. It just looked cooler than the American ones. Got lucky on a preban Galil and so wanted to do the R4 rifle setup but parts was expensive especially their version of furniture. All together, I've met several ZA veterans and they seemed happy with the PAT83.
Never wore it personally, but they were a popular alternative in the British Army in the late '90s to early '00s. I knew a few guys in my regiment who wore them on patrol in NI; I personally preferred a belt setup, or in some situations a chest rig. I would certainly argue that they were probably better constructed and more ergonomical than the COP vests typically available to UK military at the time.
Never served in the military, but I used this battle jacket for the 5 years that I was a volunteer wildfire fighter. You can cram a crazy amount of gear into the pockets although the ones by your hips made walking tedious as your hands could never be down by your sides. I also joined the two pouches on the center of the back to fit a large hydration bladder, which came in useful.
Admin is best LARPer, but really man. youve been bangin out vids like a beast. remember to take care of yourself too dude! dont burn yourself out! but i do love all the videos.
Thanks for reviewing the Pattern 83. I spend some years in the SADF and this was and still is a good battle jacket.
I have used this vest in action... Very good piece of kit... Also great for weekend hikes, adventure rides or hunting. Picked up an unissued one today for less than 20USD here in South Africa... A word of advise... If you can get an original SADF item, grab it with both hands as they are becoming VERY rare here these days.
I still use custom modified version of it at work. For AK mags, you need to sew a longer strip of velcro on the pouches. And side release buckles for utility pouches for quick access.
Running a Galil with a pattern 83 vest on next month through a course. Always fun to run the old stuff occasionally and see how the old men did it.
These were popular in the NZ army, and I believe twin needle and saber tactical make a molle version of the pattern 83 but they're made to order and only available in coyote tan and multi cam, so do with that information what you will. I wish I still had one I would have sent it to him haha
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how does he do it
Varusteleka is making a chestrig based on the pattern 83. The battle jacket and chestrig was defintely ahead of its time especially the chest rig. Who knows maybe varusteleka wil oneday try and do a modular modern battle jacket based on this one. Would be interesting to see it.
Maybe thinking of Kommando store? I know they're doing a P83 chest rig in ranger green and another in nutria
No. Varusteleke is making one based on the 83. Their stuff is some of the best quality one can get. Its not made in china BS. It has a premium price because its quality.
That 1:19 transition was flawless. I've also been there....but with expensive range finders.....and someone who said they set it up properly........
These old school “fixed” vests still have application this day and age. I have an Artkis jungle vest that I use often and it is comfy as all get out. The SA 83 is a good piece of kit. Cheers.
Damn, fresh from the presses.
Kommando Store has made a repro pattern 83 chest rig. It's only a matter of time until they cave into popular demand. Also you live in Arizona, how the frick are you so pale?
The balaclava is an object of power, it shields his entire body from UV rays
He only goes outside to film videos
In AZ you hardly go outside since the sun hates you and tells you every time you head out.
I wore one on my 1st Deployment with the Australian Inf in East Timor 2000-2001 & loved it at the time. We had such old gear that we were allowed to purchase our own rigs as long as our Sec Commanders were happy it could do the job (If you see pic's of Australian Inf around then you'll see all sorts of webbing). Had to paint the thing so it looked more "Aussie" though! Never used the back-pack, it was either a full pack, my Med-kit or a camel back.
My dad during his time in the SADF he served (1985-1989) wore the pattern 83, during his time in the Angolan bush war he always tells me how he loved the '83' as he calls it
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he served with 2nd recce as a 2nd lieutenant to my knowledge as he doesn't talk much. so i don't know the specifics.
First. I love you talking balaclava
Second, and I second that
I love you Kevin😍
I got a surplus one from SA that the original owner had written "Hi Ho" on the back pouches. Quite the character those things can have.
Well, just bought one! They aren’t getting any cheaper! Had to look cool 😎
I left for two weeks and i get 4 videos thank you so much!!!
Last time I was this early they were kept north of the Zambezi
And once again good video
It would probably make a good bugout vest. Enough pouches to hold basic bugout/survival gear (water bottles/canteens, bladder, tools, poncho/tarp, etc) as well as some mags for your AR
South African paratrooper here. The piece that’s missing in your kit is the chest-rig that fits under the battle jacket. It’s part of a 3 piece system, the 3rd part is the H frame Bergen. Together, the chest rig and battle jacket can accommodate 10 30 round. Mags, six grenades, water, ration pack and radio unit.
The US kinda copied these with the LBV-88 and the LBV-E system, and those are still relatively cheap and plentiful. Less capable, but its compatible with all the OG ALICE stuff. Need to see that in a Panama video.
the LBV is terrible which is why they’re cheap- issued it on two deployments and I reverted back to the LBE each time
When will we get a SMERSH vest review? Curious to see how it stacks up against this South African one.
Admin in a button up shirt. Very nice and formal
I never knew this was an actual used piece of kit. I've seen and owned a cheaper airsoft version of it and never knew the history behind the design. Wild.
I've been using this 'Vest Ammunition Pat. 83' as an essential piece of my outdoor equipment for years.
I remember a catalog when I was younger full of just random crap kind of like the BUDK catalogs I believe it was called the Outdoorsman but they always featured that vest in there and it was super cheap I always wanted one but never got it.
Great video, keep them coming bro
Can't wait for the grootsak review
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Typically, the battle jackets were worn while on patrol, or as a 1 day kit. Other wise for longer objectives the p83 chest rig and Grootsak combination was used
Sportsman's guide used to sell repros of these for like $20. I got one like 10-12 years ago and ran it with my AK74. Ended up giving it to my dad; he ended up taking it apart and adapting the shoulder and waist part to use on an Alice pack.
Holy shit, I'm glad I got one of those DNC button ups a few weeks ago, cause now that you've put one in a video they're gonna be sold out real damn quick
First thing I ever bought from my first ever paycheck like five or so years ago. Still use it to this day. Love the hell out of it.
I have a bit of a love affair with the pattern 83, I have used it in multiple roles in multiple theatres, all the way up until 2022when I left my service. I worked within a recce role and worked with multiple recce troops from other nations. When you are set up and used to it, it makes for a very effective equivalent to other LBE, whilst not being modular there are certain ways you can sort of avoid this and add pouches into the adjustable areas of the rig. I would still highly recommend it and still maintain mine with a regular patrol load as a just in case sort of thing. I can throw it on and carry just about everything I need from ammunition, to navigation, to sustainment, to wet/dry kit, to comms and plenty more. I am by no means an expert but I would highly recommend this rig instead of traditional LBE or micro rigs and battle belts specifically in a recce capacity.
Just as an aside with my own personal insights and with current world situations, I believe there will be a shift back from the well known high speed low drag direct action kits to a more traditional sustainment kit for the infantry and specialist units where LBE, webbing or whatever you locally call it will more apply. From my own service and still being in contact with certain members of certain units there is a lot more training going back into self sustainment (think SOG) so rigs like this will likely be modernised and re-applicated for a modern context
Ivan and his /k/ommando store is getting a new batch of these straight from SA. I already pre-ordered one in excellent+ condition. Outside of going out to shoot some fun, I really like that it could work perfectly as a hiking jacket. That top center pouch looks like it would be perfect for a CamelBak.
Real Executive outcomes used this in angola too
The radio pouch is great for a large 2-3L water bottle and a bivvy if you rip out the divider, and the left/right rear med/mg belt pouches are great for fitting a full "dixie" filled with chow on long patrols.
I had the rarer driver variant rig as well that was more like a chicom pattern and better for short patrols and vehicle work (even half unfilled that radio pouch on the full rig hunches your body forward in a landie). If you can still find original surplus from SA they are Bush proof.
We (exSADF) mainly ran 30 round R4 (Galil) magazines when using the battle jacket.
Classic LBE, I have an older ACU/ UCP US Army LBE I was issued when we phased to that camo and equipment and was supposed to mimic/ resonate this system quite a bit, still not as good as the original in my opinion.
Love how the camera monitor made an appearance! Such a fan!! Lmk if you wanna shoot a NFA M10 bullet hose!
This vest is knocked off in UCP, MARPAT, Multicam, M81 and so on for airsoft purposes and is hugely popular in Italy.
I had one 20 years ago as a cadet I absolutely loved it compared to the old 82 pattern web gear that the Canadian military used
Ooooh, I needed an accessory to go with my Blood Diamond CAR! This will be perfect.
Someone is making P83 chest rigs. I got a jacket and chest rig years ago for around 200 for both. So glad I did.
I got given one of these recently, my only real issue is I keep forgetting where I've stashed certain items on the rig :')
From South Africa so no one paid $250 thats for sure
It's also in mgs5 online for your main class, but that's a given
You know what AR. You're near and dear to my heart ❤
The jacket is going for upwards of 500 now... insane
To date, the very best "worst" review on the Pattern 83 Battle Jacket!
This vest with a little bit more adjustment, modern color options, and better utility pouches would make this my favorite LBV
Great thing about any pattern 83 kit ( pack, chest rig and vest) it will NOT break.
Surplus store in Pretoria RSA literally has mountains of this stuff for around $70 a piece.
So much room for activities!
Wish I picked one up when I saw a few for sale on Kommando store, maybe one day this beast will be mine.
These babies are sweet...I scored one (BNIW) for $159! Can't wait to run it my upcoming run and gun class.
This is a pretty good review I own one myself and I love it keep up the good work you absolute legend
Wore this extensively for a few years. Great rig. Tbh all the new LBV vests (spiritus) is just a rip off of this rig with a bum pouch at the rear and a different shoulder harness. Even the pouches. Perhaps its a better version, i dont know. But this is definetly the OG of chest rigs.
I'm still rocking an old school CIRAS plate carrier and that's mainly because of it's carry capacity; there is some awesome older gear out there. Never tried the P83 BJ but I'm definitely interested.
Dude, I served in the SADF. This gear was designed for the R4 and R5 rifles. Also for the rest of the standard issue kit like water bottles and Dixies. (Pots and pans) you get the idea. Awesome battle jacket. With your gear, frags etc stowed correctly you can comfortably traverse long distances quietly. When things became interesting, your mags were easily accessible and you didn't feel the weight at all. Enjoy it.
I bought one of those years ago from a surplus shop, it must have been sitting in my closet for years I never gave it a thought until I saw this video.
just watched blood diamond 15 minutes ago for the first time and then saw you posted a video about the 83 battle jacket. good movie and good review
We get these for sale in South Africa for R495 and the battle jackets for around R550. Thats about $30 for the BJ and $20-&25 for the CR.
I am loving that desert night camo shirt! sweet!
*still waiting for a Lee Enfield video, but weirdly okay with gear reviews*
okay but WHERE can I get DNC shirt like that??
Yeah this is the second time I've seen this shirt around and am needing one more and more
I wear this as my job as a security guard at the local Walmart parking lot, would recommend
In the case of many of the real battle jackets, you'll noticed the tags don't say "Made in South Africa", but rather "Made in [Insert Bantustan Here]", like Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei etc.
military1st has pattern 83 clones for sale. pricey but hoping with it becoming popular it will become cheaper
I got my unissued surplus SA83 Chest Rig for $30 in 2015. Held up great.
You can run AK mags in it by stuffing them in the pouch and then taking the flap and wrapping it tight to the side so it's held in by friction
When youre out on patrol with the boois and the bushes start speaking Porra
Reject modularity, embrace the traditions of old