Years ago when I was still a child, I remember recruitung Regirock and in the later floors losing it to a pitfall trap. I was damn frustrated after that. xD
Lol, the same happened to me like two years ago xD I had tried literally 20 times to recruit the Regi and never recruited any of the three(as a lvl 100 with Friend Bow) ( However I had Mew x)) So I looked it up on Internet and realised I needed to have the Rock the Steel and the Ice to recruit them. So I recruited Regirock and Regice on my first try and on the floor like 30 I walked on a pitfall trap and it didn't trigger. Then Regirock fell in and I lost it xD ( When it happened I hadn't realised he was lost because it was the first time that someting like happened to me and when I realised he was lost I was so pissed because I had taken 3 reviver seeds just in case xD)
Yes same for me. I even brought an escape orb but that fell victim to one of those traps that disable your items. I hope they nerf the pitfall traps in the remake. Losing your partner for the floor is ok, but not for the entire dungeon.
My mind has been blown. I never knew you could route out dungeons like this. This is the very definition of Laplace's Demon. I'm literally awestruck right now
And now, you've been playing Pokémon Mystery Dungeon for at least 15 years, and a new Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game has been released, that game being Pokémon Legends Arceus, have you ever played the game ? If not, will you plan to play the game in the future ?
@@candyneige6609 Haha, no I haven't played Legends Arceus and I don't think I'm going to either. Idk it's just... that it's not your "normal" Pokemon game. But I'm probably wrong and it's super fun.
@@PROJECTJMUSIC Why aren't you planning on playing Pokémon Legends Arceus, a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game, when you've been playing Pokémon Mystery Dungeon for over 15 years ?
I've never experimented with quicksave manipulation before, the whole "turning your game off after resuming play will count as a defeat" warning makes me too nervous about using the feature at all. It's probably too late anyway since I got every Pokémon by just playing the game until RNG stopped being a massive butt.
If anyone is doing this on red Rescue Team I would suggest that you bring a Max Elixer and use it when your frustration chain is low on power points. The reason for this is in buried relic Porygon can appear only in red Rescue Team and it happens to spawn on the route you have to take and you must defeat it cause it’s literally blocking the path. These extra Porygon cause you to not have enough power points for the Registeel fight(also depends on how many Pokémon you defeat on floor 1). Just use it right before a stair case and you should be fine. I just did it and I can confirm that it works
I don't know specifically for this game. But I imagine it's to do with how randomness is generated by using seeds of other potentially random information, like your movement, which is then stored and called upon later when "random" events need to happen
What the other guy said, but also want to specifically mention that quicksaving and loading in a dungeon sets the seed to a static value. This value is different for each floor, but you'll tend to see in speedruns and stuff they try and do it asap so you dont have to deal with many random floors. From there, rng is manipulated by the exact movements you take, so routing this out is a process of creating a save state, taking an action, then teleporting to see if it took you to the right place. If not, load the save state, take a different action, and go again. Same with recruiting and rng related to moves being used or missed by yourself and the AI.
If you just follow step by step what is he doing, you'll be sure to recruit them, i followed it floor by floor and i had same screen as yours, the only thing different on mine was the number of pokemon because my alakazam was over lvl 29 so i had to defeat few monsters more, but it works !!! Thank you maan !!
@@iceyspicey4802 you will face a few monsters more than in the video, but keep going, pay attention of the dangerousness and kill them if you think you have to
In general "avoiding"/back side-tracking the regi, while keeping any recruited ones away by changing their tactics like in the video, will work. If the regi starts changing stats and if it misses when it attacks you..it will let you recruit it once you win lmao
4:50 damn that's clever! Really interesting channel! :D I always love to find PMD only channels like these, since such channels are very rare unfortunately. Is there a possibility you're going to upload EoD/EoT/EoS stuff too? ^^ I know it's harder, because of the RNG, but maybe that's the challenge? :P
Glad you're enjoying it! In terms of Explorers of Sky stuff, I mostly do that sort of thing on my Twitch channel, however it's been a while since I've streamed it. Right now I'm doing a 100% play through of Blue Rescue Team, after that I may do another play through of Sky!
Mystaldi Alright! :D I will be looking forward to it. Atm im also playing Blue Rescue Team again, that's how I ended up here. :P Even though I like EoS a bit more, Blue Rescue Team is the more nostalgic game. It's 10 years ago that I played PMD for the first time. :o
Again, you're amazing! After you do legendaries can you please pleasa do magikarp/feebas and kecleon? They're the only ones I need to recruit to complete all 413 Pokemon. And yes I have all unown lol. It took me a loooooong time to get them
Pokémon Legends Arceus features 242 recruitable Pokémon, which is low when compared to the 413 recruitable Pokémon of the original Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team, but still better than the 144 recruitable Pokémon of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity, no wonder why so many people consider it as the "bad game", in fact, the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon with the highest number of recruitable Pokémon is Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon with 720 recruitable Pokémon, a title that will most likely stay due to GameFreak's decision not to include all Pokémon in all upcoming Pokémon games, as for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX, there are 418 recruitable Pokémon, and for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers, while Time and Darkness features 491 recruitable Pokémon, Sky features 492 recruitable Pokémon.
my god, this is pure EVIL. i was looking at the notes and not the video, and i used an escape orb in registeel's room, and it didnt work, AND IT CONSUMED THE ORB! i was helpless at that point and i DIED because of crappy game design. THANKS NINTENDO!
I love this!! I'm always watching your videos and it takes me a few tries but eventually i get there jsjs PLEASE DO ONE for groudon! i CAN'T seem to recruit with..... it took me 1 try with rayquaza tho smh
Me:tries this right now. Forgets I unlocked Porygon on BRT. Well, great. Bunch of porygon blocking my path. Edit: should be fine (for the 2 people here), just bring some heals and expect some slight alteration to movement. Woop.
Welp, that guide came a view years too late for me, I recruited them in the remake. But they're also guaranteed to join you with your second attempt. :D But that's an awesome manipulation, maybe I'll try that when I return to the original BRT for nostalgia someday. :)
Took me 3 tries to do this. First try I forgot my Friend Bow, and had to load my save state, which was before I recruited Mew, so had to do that again. Made sure to save state before trying it again. Second try I forgot the Escape Orb and had to load my save state and do it all over again.
I have all the legendaries except Regice. Got Celebi and Jirachi thanks to your guide. How should I go about recruiting him. I got to him twice but he won't join? Do I need to get the parts again then come back or use certain items ?
This manipulation is only for recruiting all three at the same time, not individually. You need the Ice Part or the Music Box in your inventory while you attempt to recruit him, other than that it's up to chance
@@Mystaldi Yeah I'm not worried about the speed. I have high enough Pokemon to go through it easy. I may need to get a friend now. I haven't played in so long idk if I foolishly gave it to a Pokemon to hold or sold it or what.
Yup! Version exclusive pokemon being unlocked will effect the behavior of pokemon on the floor, it will not however change the floor generation and since there won't be any version exclusives during the regi fights it should still work for those at least.
@@Mystaldi brilliant, had to restart everything for the 3rd time just because I’ve not known that for years on end 😂. P.S. your tutorials are awesome. 😎
Why the *#$@ can't I recruit Regirock in Red Rescue Team!? I have the Ancient Relic, the Music Box, the Friend Bow and only size-one team members (Shelgon, Oddish and Teddiursa) so why is the Recruitment Search thing in the menu red, as in "inapplicable"??!!
They have a pretty low recruitment rate, you may just be getting unlucky. If it says you can't recruit them though, maybe try bringing only one or two pokemon with you.
I cant follow these steps because theres a Porygon that blocks my path on floor 7... I got passed it by using frustration but then on the next floor, theres another next to the stairs that will KO you with the help of a Hoothoot
Yeah, so having the version exclusives from the opposite game unlocked can really screw with these manipulations. All I can tell you is bring extra items to try and help out, because I made these with the majority of people who haven't unlocked the opposite exclusives in mind. Sorry :(
It doesn't change the rates exactly, it just let's me find a turn where I can recruit a pokemon and guarantee that it happens every time, since things are exactly the same every time you quicksave.
You need the music box or the parts in your inventory so they don't drop them... In fact, I think I show and say that at the very start of the video (0:30).
While it is meant for BRT, if you reset the game after you quicksave, it should have the same effect on RRT. I haven't tested it yet though to see if it works exactly the same.
Mystaldi when you say reset after a quicksave do you mean reset the game once you are at the title screen after you do a quick save? Or is it something completely different? Lastly, do I have to do this extra step on all of the other quick save manipulation tricks that you have videos on? Thanks! Edit: I tested it and I just have to reset when the quicksave takes me to the title screen. It appears that rrt and brt load the new dungeon seed at different times which is why a reset is required for rrt. Probably because one is on the gba and the other is on the ds
you uh say "uh" uh so uh much. i uh counted uh about uh 30 uh's in the uh first uh minute uh alone. it uh makes uh this uh very uh hard uh to uh watch.
Yuuup, I used to do that a ton when I was nervous. Something I have worked on quite a bit since then. No need to be a dick though, just leave your dislike and move on.
when you realize mystery dungeon games have the most content you've ever seen
Burningxspirits facts
This includes Pokémon Legends Arceus since it's a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.
@@candyneige6609 what
@@iminacatsuit Pokémon Legends Arceus is a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.
@@candyneige6609didn’t know this one, can u explain better? i haven’t played it but it doesn’t seem a md game
Years ago when I was still a child, I remember recruitung Regirock and in the later floors losing it to a pitfall trap. I was damn frustrated after that. xD
Lol, the same happened to me like two years ago xD
I had tried literally 20 times to recruit the Regi and never recruited any of the three(as a lvl 100 with Friend Bow) ( However I had Mew x))
So I looked it up on Internet and realised I needed to have the Rock the Steel and the Ice to recruit them. So I recruited Regirock and Regice on my first try and on the floor like 30 I walked on a pitfall trap and it didn't trigger. Then Regirock fell in and I lost it xD ( When it happened I hadn't realised he was lost because it was the first time that someting like happened to me and when I realised he was lost I was so pissed because I had taken 3 reviver seeds just in case xD)
Yes same for me. I even brought an escape orb but that fell victim to one of those traps that disable your items. I hope they nerf the pitfall traps in the remake. Losing your partner for the floor is ok, but not for the entire dungeon.
I know that feel bro…
@@ovaiggy you always need to bring 3 escape orbs + 1 cleanse orb, we all learnt that the hard way XD
They don't exist! Whoop
My mind has been blown. I never knew you could route out dungeons like this. This is the very definition of Laplace's Demon. I'm literally awestruck right now
Hey friends! Sorry if I'm a little quiet, it was a bit late when I recorded this and I was starting to fall asleep haha. Anyways, enjoy!
Yo,I wanted to ask
The only thing that I havent done in this game is to meet munchlax in pokemon square,is it random?Or do you have to do smth specific?
where was this channel 15 years ago lol this is awesome, subbed
I've been playing Mystery Dungeon for 11 years now and I never knew you could manipulate the game :o thats crazy
And now, you've been playing Pokémon Mystery Dungeon for at least 15 years, and a new Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game has been released, that game being Pokémon Legends Arceus, have you ever played the game ? If not, will you plan to play the game in the future ?
@@candyneige6609 Haha, no I haven't played Legends Arceus and I don't think I'm going to either. Idk it's just... that it's not your "normal" Pokemon game. But I'm probably wrong and it's super fun.
@@PROJECTJMUSIC Why aren't you planning on playing Pokémon Legends Arceus, a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game, when you've been playing Pokémon Mystery Dungeon for over 15 years ?
@@candyneige6609 what? is this some meme im not aware of that Legends Arceus is a PMD game?
@@Maklocke You're not even aware of the existence of Legends Arceus when it's literally the best Mystery Dungeon game ever made ?
I've never experimented with quicksave manipulation before, the whole "turning your game off after resuming play will count as a defeat" warning makes me too nervous about using the feature at all. It's probably too late anyway since I got every Pokémon by just playing the game until RNG stopped being a massive butt.
In Pokémon Legends Arceus, you don't need a Progress Device if you want to save whilst in a dungeon.
If anyone is doing this on red Rescue Team I would suggest that you bring a Max Elixer and use it when your frustration chain is low on power points. The reason for this is in buried relic Porygon can appear only in red Rescue Team and it happens to spawn on the route you have to take and you must defeat it cause it’s literally blocking the path. These extra Porygon cause you to not have enough power points for the Registeel fight(also depends on how many Pokémon you defeat on floor 1). Just use it right before a stair case and you should be fine. I just did it and I can confirm that it works
Or having unlocked Porygon on Blue, I suppose.
Sorry if I've asked this before, but is there any logic to where Teleport takes you?
Also, is there any write-up about the mechanics of manipulation?
I don't know specifically for this game. But I imagine it's to do with how randomness is generated by using seeds of other potentially random information, like your movement, which is then stored and called upon later when "random" events need to happen
What the other guy said, but also want to specifically mention that quicksaving and loading in a dungeon sets the seed to a static value. This value is different for each floor, but you'll tend to see in speedruns and stuff they try and do it asap so you dont have to deal with many random floors. From there, rng is manipulated by the exact movements you take, so routing this out is a process of creating a save state, taking an action, then teleporting to see if it took you to the right place. If not, load the save state, take a different action, and go again. Same with recruiting and rng related to moves being used or missed by yourself and the AI.
If you just follow step by step what is he doing, you'll be sure to recruit them, i followed it floor by floor and i had same screen as yours, the only thing different on mine was the number of pokemon because my alakazam was over lvl 29 so i had to defeat few monsters more, but it works !!! Thank you maan !!
What happens if youre over level 29
@@iceyspicey4802 you will face a few monsters more than in the video, but keep going, pay attention of the dangerousness and kill them if you think you have to
In general "avoiding"/back side-tracking the regi, while keeping any recruited ones away by changing their tactics like in the video, will work. If the regi starts changing stats and if it misses when it attacks you..it will let you recruit it once you win lmao
4:50 damn that's clever!
Really interesting channel! :D
I always love to find PMD only channels like these, since such channels are very rare unfortunately.
Is there a possibility you're going to upload EoD/EoT/EoS stuff too? ^^ I know it's harder, because of the RNG, but maybe that's the challenge? :P
Glad you're enjoying it! In terms of Explorers of Sky stuff, I mostly do that sort of thing on my Twitch channel, however it's been a while since I've streamed it. Right now I'm doing a 100% play through of Blue Rescue Team, after that I may do another play through of Sky!
Mystaldi Alright! :D
I will be looking forward to it. Atm im also playing Blue Rescue Team again, that's how I ended up here. :P Even though I like EoS a bit more, Blue Rescue Team is the more nostalgic game. It's 10 years ago that I played PMD for the first time. :o
I don't understand one thing about your manipulation, all of this is just jumble nonesense to mz.
Hey mystaldi can you make a video talking about how you make these quicksave manipulations?
Oh yeah, definitely, when I get back home in a couple of weeks I'll get to work on a quick video like that.
I've needed this for a long time
I never knew that the dungeon could be memorized like this. I always thought each floor was generated when you got to it
It normally does but when u QS it saves the rest of the dungeon
extremely impressive dude!
Again, you're amazing! After you do legendaries can you please pleasa do magikarp/feebas and kecleon? They're the only ones I need to recruit to complete all 413 Pokemon. And yes I have all unown lol. It took me a loooooong time to get them
@Ace King Damp he figured out a Kecleon manipulation
Pokémon Legends Arceus features 242 recruitable Pokémon, which is low when compared to the 413 recruitable Pokémon of the original Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team, but still better than the 144 recruitable Pokémon of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity, no wonder why so many people consider it as the "bad game", in fact, the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon with the highest number of recruitable Pokémon is Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon with 720 recruitable Pokémon, a title that will most likely stay due to GameFreak's decision not to include all Pokémon in all upcoming Pokémon games, as for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX, there are 418 recruitable Pokémon, and for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers, while Time and Darkness features 491 recruitable Pokémon, Sky features 492 recruitable Pokémon.
my god, this is pure EVIL. i was looking at the notes and not the video, and i used an escape orb in registeel's room, and it didnt work, AND IT CONSUMED THE ORB! i was helpless at that point and i DIED because of crappy game design. THANKS NINTENDO!
Ooof :(
how about: recruit all 3 regis AND recruit mew on B36 right after, that sounds like a fun manipulation
I don't think that's possible as you can only have a team of 4 and mew would take the team to 5
@@lamorgan100 i thought of it more like a challenge, just to see if its possible. You would have to release one of them before recruiting mew ofc.
@@insanebluefin3234 Yeah that makes sense. Seems like a good thing to try
@@lamorgan100
My PMD knowledge is rather rusty... but I'm pretty sure I remember that you can send recruited members home if you have a full team.
@@plinplinsnack5872
I did say my knowledge was rusty...
I love this!! I'm always watching your videos and it takes me a few tries but eventually i get there jsjs PLEASE DO ONE for groudon! i CAN'T seem to recruit with..... it took me 1 try with rayquaza tho smh
Is ridiculous that pitfall trap kills your teammate instantly even if he´s level 100, but the leader recieve only 5 damage.....
They dont die they disappear
I'd be ok with the instant KO, really. The inability to save them with Reviver Seeds afterwards is what I hate about that trap.
the best pokes
4 years later but i enjoyed as it was first time
It's been several years at this point but does this work with any pokemon or only with Alakazam?
Hey man, may I know where to recruit alakazam? Or abra: katabra.
Apparently Solar Cave is the best place Abra appears on floors 1-8 and Kadabra appear a few floors after
One thing I hate about this game is how little information there really is for it, it comes off like a sub category like pokemon pinball
I'm sad I didn't find RUclips videos like this a long time ago 😪I struggled so much😔
Me:tries this right now.
Forgets I unlocked Porygon on BRT.
Well, great.
Bunch of porygon blocking my path.
Edit: should be fine (for the 2 people here), just bring some heals and expect some slight alteration to movement. Woop.
Welp, that guide came a view years too late for me, I recruited them in the remake. But they're also guaranteed to join you with your second attempt. :D
But that's an awesome manipulation, maybe I'll try that when I return to the original BRT for nostalgia someday. :)
So useful! thanks!
Took me 3 tries to do this. First try I forgot my Friend Bow, and had to load my save state, which was before I recruited Mew, so had to do that again. Made sure to save state before trying it again. Second try I forgot the Escape Orb and had to load my save state and do it all over again.
I recruited Regice without the second quicksave, so I don't know what you're talking about.
How do you feel about the remakes coming up? I'm afraid theyre going to butcher it
Hzlink no
Hzlink Bro. The remake is gonna make Blue Rescue Team not suck.
@@skywardarceus implying the rescue team games suck
Hzlink They kind of do though. Blue Rescue Team especially, that game has NOT aged well.
@@skywardarceus youre entitled to your shit taste
Sooooo what if you don’t have Alakazam and how would you get a lvl 16 one
I have all the legendaries except Regice. Got Celebi and Jirachi thanks to your guide. How should I go about recruiting him. I got to him twice but he won't join? Do I need to get the parts again then come back or use certain items ?
This manipulation is only for recruiting all three at the same time, not individually. You need the Ice Part or the Music Box in your inventory while you attempt to recruit him, other than that it's up to chance
@@Mystaldi Yeah I'm not worried about the speed. I have high enough Pokemon to go through it easy. I may need to get a friend now. I haven't played in so long idk if I foolishly gave it to a Pokemon to hold or sold it or what.
I don't understand this at all, but it's really cool
Jesus Christ word
Would it affect the whole thing if red exclusive Pokémon came into play in this?
Yup! Version exclusive pokemon being unlocked will effect the behavior of pokemon on the floor, it will not however change the floor generation and since there won't be any version exclusives during the regi fights it should still work for those at least.
@@Mystaldi brilliant, had to restart everything for the 3rd time just because I’ve not known that for years on end 😂.
P.S. your tutorials are awesome. 😎
Is this working on red rescue team too?
Why the *#$@ can't I recruit Regirock in Red Rescue Team!? I have the Ancient Relic, the Music Box, the Friend Bow and only size-one team members (Shelgon, Oddish and Teddiursa) so why is the Recruitment Search thing in the menu red, as in "inapplicable"??!!
They have a pretty low recruitment rate, you may just be getting unlucky. If it says you can't recruit them though, maybe try bringing only one or two pokemon with you.
@@Mystaldi Is the Recruitment Search thing in the menu always red when facing Legendaries or something even if they are recuitable?
@@Mystaldi ...Huh. Apparently, the Recruitment Search thing in the menu is always red when facing Legendaries, even when recruitment is a possibility.
I cant follow these steps because theres a Porygon that blocks my path on floor 7... I got passed it by using frustration but then on the next floor, theres another next to the stairs that will KO you with the help of a Hoothoot
Yeah, so having the version exclusives from the opposite game unlocked can really screw with these manipulations. All I can tell you is bring extra items to try and help out, because I made these with the majority of people who haven't unlocked the opposite exclusives in mind. Sorry :(
@@Mystaldi All good my dude, all your other videos really helped me out, having 3 pokemon I cant get as easy as the others isn't so bad
Can you do a video for recruiting Deoxys?
Yup! I'm going to finish up the legendaries and then move on to some more specific pokemon like Ponyta and Snorlax.
How does quicksaving change the recruit rates?
It doesn't change the rates exactly, it just let's me find a turn where I can recruit a pokemon and guarantee that it happens every time, since things are exactly the same every time you quicksave.
a question that would happen if I did not take the desire stone to the cave wish would appear jirachi? could I recruit it?
Yup! If you don't take the Wish Stone through Wish Cave and defeat Jirachi, it will join your team.
Mystaldi thank you 😀!!
Will this still work if you have already recruited one of the Regis?
Nope! This manipulation is to recruit all three in one go, so you'll need to let the regi you recruited go for this to work.
Ok, now do it again with reviver seeds for max health 👀
is it possible to do the boss hp glitch with them as well?
Yup! Not with this manipulation, but absolutely.
@@Mystaldi Thanks for that! Will try now!
Do you have to use frustration?
when i got alakazam in ruby at level 70 it still had bad attack so i had to get gardervoir
NOPE! Mine it keeps appearing Their Parts withour Recruiting ALL THE TIME... >:( Also I Recruited Mew and It doesn't work on All Regi Trios...
You need the music box or the parts in your inventory so they don't drop them... In fact, I think I show and say that at the very start of the video (0:30).
@@Mystaldi Thanks.
Does have to be playing alakazam or any other Pokemon
For this, yes.
Mystaldi is it hard to obtain alakazam?
How did u do that to hit with Frustration so many times per round?
I linked 3 Frustration TMs together at the Gulpin link shop.
@@Mystaldi Ty :) Could it work the same with some other pokemon instead of Alakazam? and also does it work if I already have Regirock recruted? Thx'
How do you get new dungeons access like all them please?
Anyone here after the announcement of DX?
While i haven't recruited the regis yet, i have recruited Regigigas in Pokémon Legends Arceus.
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Does this work on red Rescue Team?
While it is meant for BRT, if you reset the game after you quicksave, it should have the same effect on RRT. I haven't tested it yet though to see if it works exactly the same.
Mystaldi when you say reset after a quicksave do you mean reset the game once you are at the title screen after you do a quick save? Or is it something completely different? Lastly, do I have to do this extra step on all of the other quick save manipulation tricks that you have videos on? Thanks!
Edit: I tested it and I just have to reset when the quicksave takes me to the title screen. It appears that rrt and brt load the new dungeon seed at different times which is why a reset is required for rrt. Probably because one is on the gba and the other is on the ds
Nah it does not work for regirock.
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you uh say "uh" uh so uh much. i uh counted uh about uh 30 uh's in the uh first uh minute uh alone. it uh makes uh this uh very uh hard uh to uh watch.
Yuuup, I used to do that a ton when I was nervous. Something I have worked on quite a bit since then. No need to be a dick though, just leave your dislike and move on.