Our NEXT BOAT Solves All our Problems with Cruising | Sailing Soulianis - Ep. 112
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2022
- What kind of boat we’ve been secretly dreaming about for the last 3+ years?
Living, traveling and working on our monohull gave us a lot of insight into what we did and did not like about our first boat and our cruising lifestyle. Because we value spending time with our families in the Midwest, we have fallen into a seasonal cruising pattern, which means our boat had been on the hard, in the path of hurricanes for several months every year. This got us thinking:
There must be a better way
After a zillion hours of research and countless pros & cons discussions, we’ve figured out the perfect set of criteria for our next boat. We lay it all out for you in this episode!
Hope you enjoy!!
Lauren, Kirk & Renata
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"we are rushing from one attempt to slow down to another" cool insight!
I am sure you have seen Tula's Endless Summer time on a trailerable trimaran. What an amazing idea! What a great way to explore the US. The possibilities are endless! Can't wait to see what you end up with and what is next. NO - Wait! Just saw the preview! You were there! Cool.
I'll never forget my first time sailing... It was on Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire. I was visiting my therapist Dr. Leo Marvin and his lovely wife Faye. Sailing is easy if you always remember to take "Baby Steps."
Sincerely,
Bob WIley.
OMG!!! I've never posted before, but I've been following you from the beginning & this was the last thing I expected you to consider! I'm the proud owner of one of the first F31's made, hull #6, originally made in 1992 by Ostac in Brisbane, before Ian worked with Corsair & brought the molds to the USA. I've had her since 2000. She travels the waters of Long Island Sound, but has made it to Marathon several years back for a couple of weeks, something I'd love to repeat when I have a LOT more time. There are many pro's and con's to consider. I keep it in my driveway off season & can unfold it there & do all maintenance at home. It's an absolute blast to sail, but cruising on it compared to Soulianis would be like going from a Winnebago to a pop-top trailer. Also the motion of a light multihull (Cat or tri) through the water is quite different from a heavy monohull, just something to consider. All boats require a compromise, you pick what works for you. If you ever want more info from a long-term owner of one feel free to contact me. Best wishes!
Can't wait to see what you actually get! Good luck and stay safe!
This is the happiest and most free you two have seemed in quite a while.
Can't wait to see what boat you get. All the ones you looked at looked fantastic.
Ok…. This is sooo fun! Super excited to watch this chapter unfold.
Go for it so happy both new arrivals
Guys, it's been great following your ventures throughout your journeys. Looking forward to your future ventures.
I would absolutely LOVE it if you showcase the Great Lakes. They are a treasure few cruising channels have even mentioned much less shown.
Got to say, this is SO exciting. Really love this direction for you guys! Great idea!!
Exciting times for you kids. Love the videos. Kepp sharing please.
I enjoy seeing Renata grow up - and also the stuff about sailing too!
As a very long time boat owner, I do not believe that old saying “The happiest two days”. Each time I sell a boat I feel like I am losing a piece of myself. Still, it’s all worth it.
I 100% agree. So many good times that you forget the challenging
I agree, the day you sell your boat is one of the saddest days of your life, even when you know you have to move on for the next boat, you'll always have fond feelings and a little regret, it's such a churn of feelings.
Can't wait to see what the next one is ~ wait yes I will .
I've been following you all from the beginning and this is the first time I've posted a comment...this is one of your best videos, very nicely done, I myself have bought and sold several boats from monohulls to cats, and each time we had to say goodbye I was sad because there were so many great memories made in them with friends and family, but with sadness there is also excitement waiting to find your next boat and wondering what great memories are to come, I wish you all the best finding your next boat!
(It was also cool to see Billy and Sierra from Tula's)
I love your reasoning for the next boat.
Great video! Enjoy the new boat!
What an editing job!! Going back to find all those segments and patch it into one cohesive story was wonderful. Saw a couple of familiar faces at the end. I am looking forward to the next step. And I want to see how big Renata is getting! (Step-Grandpa talking)
Good luck!!!
Congratulations on your new boat!
What an absolutely exciting teaser at the end... talk about chomping at the bit... well done.
What a teaser, lovin it.
Glad you guys were able to sell before Ian and hope you got out before. We've been catching up on ur channel and the irony for us. Grew up in Shebogan and we ended up in Fort Myers. Loved seeing the trip down the Miss as it is so rare to see. And you guys have such a cool vibe🤙. You'll have to make a trip through Door County when ur back on Michigan. From Sturgeon Bay to Fish Creek, Egg Harbor, and Ephriam. Such a unique area and awesome communities. And it's hard to beat an ice cream at Wilson's on the water at sunset!
Can't wait to see where this goes. 👍
Hello trailer sailors! It's your mini-you, we're back on the same path!!
And there's an abandoned foldable tri at the marina a mile from my house. Not quite as big as the last one you looked at.
Edit: And I think a couple of us were clever enough to pick up on the catamaran misdirection and guess it would be a tri, but no one was thinking trailerable.
So the Unicorn is out there! happy boat shopping and hope the right tri finds you.
Babies and folding trimarans. You guys are certainly keeping it interesting!
Can't wait!!
Awesome, thank you
Life is a journey..it's not about the destination, it's the journey, enjoy each and every minute, even the hard times...stay safe
I have been a mono sailor most of my life. I started sailing on a Shuttleworth tri 45’ and will never go back to mono.
The speed and comfort (not healing right over) is just amazing
Good luck finding your boat.
Great Posting kids! I just knew you couldn't be boatless for very long, it's in your genes now! I'm remembering when "Tula's Endless Summer" had the use of that tri-maran for several months and how much fun it was for them. Of course there are only two of them and space down below was limited at best. Yours would for sure have to have a larger main hull, but I'm sure your Sprinter Van could tow it without any issues. So looking forward to what you end up with! On a sadder note, the new owner of your Soulianis must just be heartbroken after Ian blew through! My sympathy goes out to them And you.
Awesome, was thinking Tulas Endless Summer the entire video! Everything you say in this video makes absolutely 100% sense for the three of you, looking forward to your next adventures!!
Yea they really proved the concept in real time right after we started down this path of thinking a trimaran would be the perfect platform for our next few years of sailing.
So sorry to hear about Soli, I hope the new owner repairs and continues.
"We are rushing from one attempt to slow down to another" My gf and I can totally relate. We have been commuting 45+ miles a day each way to work from our rental in the CA foothills... well "toehills" really. This lifestyle has taken its toll. We like the simple life of work, home, togetherness, hiking in the Sierra, biking, and traveling, and I am a skier and climber. BUT it's been tough with the commuting sucking up so much of our resources. So we just found a little place in town (Grass Valley) where we will be 10 minutes from our jobs, and a bike ride or walk to town for events and shopping or whatever. PLUS it has a two-car garage so I finally get to have my shop. I am renovating a trailer, and would like to ultimately create a custom trailer-building/ tiny house business. BTW, I'm so glad you mentioned the San Juan Islands. We love it up there, and if we could move to Bellingham WA, we would in a second. Amazing mountains and the maritime life. What could be better!
.... great sailing/cruiding grounds all the way from the San Juan Islands to Alaska .... a bit cooler than say the Caribbean, but that is what clothes are for .. smilin ..
Good luck with your project.
We had the same idea, a trailerable trimaran and a land based home.
We noticed you went out sailing with Billy and Sierra on their 880 in Marathon a few hours after we did. Great boat, a ton of fun and great company to sail with! We’ve owned numerous catamarans over the past 30 years and I think I realized I may be to old for the trailerable trimaran......a problem y’all don’t have!
I think it’s a great idea and maybe we will also look into it again in the future. Best of luck!
You are very lucky to have had your boat inland, most of the boats in the yards were you kept yours fell over after Ian
Wow, you all were without a boat for a lot longer than I thought. Looking forward to the next video! Maybe we'll see what you ended up with. :)
How exciting for you! can't wait to start building my first catamaran next year when I'm back from Antarctica 🤙🍻
I like it... I call mine an "RV that floats". I have a 1976 Ericson 35-2, built a goose neck trailer to accomplish the land travel, and bought a 1990 International 8100 off Craigslist to pull it. With a big winch on the back of the truck and a 4th axle on the landing gear of the trailer, I can launch from any boat ramp. My wife and I have taken our boat from Colorado to Washington and cruised the inside passage twice, (almost to Alaska).
Do cops ever bother you regarding 10ft beam? How available are yard arms that can manage your mast?
We always abide by oversize load permits, signage, and flagging. The first time we launched on the Columbia River and we hired a small crane to step the mast prior to launch. Second trip we launched in Anacortes, Wa. using their Travel lift, mast down and then raised the mast on the water using the marinas equipment.
Good luck 👍
Thank you.
I’m very pleased to hear you talking about trimarans,I probably couldn’t help myself previously,commenting that I would go straight to a tri if thinking about a multi hull,as I’m not fond of cats.We are still left in suspense to some degree here,hahaha.I guess the reveal will be in your next video.Best wishes always🙂
My first sailboat was that windrider you had a clip of. If go big I will go corsair or dragonfly. You will save sooooo much money and peace of mind with shallow draft and being able to move it around on your own, and bo more hurricane worries. And talk about sailing performance!!!
If you have not sailed in Desolation Sound in Canada, you definitely need to! Come up to the San Juans and then just continue north!
I would like to try to join you in Puget Sound and San Juan Islands with my Macgregor 26S. Think about it for a channel Reunion Regatta!
Our inland yacht club did Desolation Sound on San Juan 21s (with big enough motors!)
.... Well! .... to be quite honest ... if I got that correct ... a 40 foot trailerable had never crossed my mind .... did not even know they existed, never searched them ... have seen what I would imagine would have been in the 16 to 18 foot foldable day sailer ..... you certainly have my interest peeked ..... for a sec there I thought that was current day clip of a bump ... smilin .. that would be so cool too .... thx for the share .. as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....
What a woman, 100% supportive and mamasita included. WOW. Love from Antigua Guatemala, OsoYolo.
Any foldable tri that you get will be only an interim solution as it will be primarily for protected waters. Cruising the Caribbean, the Bahamas and anywhere offshore will require a larger cat or tri. So you will need to be selling any foldable tri you get for something larger. The foldable tri will be going smaller than the Tartan and will be cramped with 3, and more cramped if you have another child. You indicated you like to see family and folding tri would allow you to trailer to their area, however they will not be able to stay onboard for a cruise longer than a day. A 38-39' cruising cat would allow them to visit you in more exotic locations like the Bahamas or Caribbean and it could spend hurricane season in safe locations with you on it. Just my 2 cents.
You do not seem to be getting the concept of being able to see family. They will be traveling to see family on a regular basis all the time, not going to take them out on long cruises. Having family come visit in the Carribean one weekend or one week every so many years is again not the point of being able to see family on a regular basis. So you are missing their whole point.
There are also foldable tri that are blue water / ocean cruising. So not sure where you get that mistaken believe they will only be for protected waters. Not sure how many of those are trailerable though. But I am sure you could find a trailerable island hopper / coastal cruiser tri. I have a feeling they already have one in real time.
@@kevinfisher1345 It is the combinations of a trailerable trimaran that I was addressing. I agree there are offshore trimarans that are foldable like the Rapido 50, but they will not fold to the 8-10' max width that can be trailerable on roadways. So 30' like Corsair is probably the longest production folding tri that can be trailerable and that will have smaller internal space than their Tartan. I'm sure some people would sail a Corsair around the Caribbean but probably not the best for a family with a baby. The other point was that it was an interim step, yes , people do buy and sell boats, go up and sometimes down in size, but in normal sailboat markets, the buying and selling process costs $$$s and boats depreciate in value. That said, family ties and connections are important and strong and if that is top on the list, so be it, get a folding tri.
@@douglasrobbie9998 Yes trailerable will be key and hard to find. A lot depends upon on what all someone will want to trailer. I agree as you said most will only want, or can only trailer 8-11' width.
Best wishes 🎉 Totally agree with a multi hull 👍🏻 After 3 monohulls, it is what we're after.......though not tralerable. Just an FYI. You family will come and visit as they have for many others that live aboard. 😊
You'll love a Tri!!!
Very happy for yall! Great video. Sad to see the Tartan go and heartbroken to see it got hit by Ian
Folks. This sounds amazingly good idea for the plans you have. Tris are so much fun and, getting used to a foldable trainable one would prep you for a bigger one if you needed to. I’m just on passage to my wintering ground and I’m not relishing all that decommissioning you are taking about. As a disabled sailor the boatyard is incredibly tough so I’m hoping to keep it short.
I will say I'm a little surprised thought cat for sure, but i fell in love with trimarans a long time ago and living in Michigan myself, home run you guys, home run!!!!!!
Good sailing in a much smaller, but wider boat.
Love the trimaran notion.. Best of luck.. Happy trails..
Thanks Dan!
Love the videos :) I wish we had more time to keep up with you guys. But once you get out on the water yourself it’s hard to find time to sit and watch each episode.
We often are in a rush to slow down as well ;)
You sneaky buggers 😂 Double episode Sunday so we can live vicariously through the latest purchase?!? Lol looking forward to the next video
I knew it would happen someday! I still go back and watch the part when you came through St. Louis, I grew up in Alton. We sailed/raced a lighting and had many Hobie cats over the years!
Alton! Yay
I’m a Great Lakes/Fl sailor. I get your conundrum. I don’t get a tri for this stage of young family sailing. Where do you put a dinghy? Cat seems more child friendly. I would want more sailing time in a tri including high seas. Other than that your Kirk and Lauren analytics will lead you to what’s right for you and Renata and whoever appears next. 😮
Sounds like my favorite sailboat... the Corsair trimaran (about as close as you can come to the trimaran in Waterworld". Check out "Tula's endless summer" experience with the Corsair. You should also check "Learning the lines" refit of a used Corsair.
Did you see who we sailed with in the “Coming Up”? 😉😉
Saw Billy on the multi with you.
Good luck..boat camping! I had a Santana 20 eith tall trailer and could step the mast. That too got really old really quickly. Saves the price of a slip and you can work on them as home. Speed can as you know be great. Good luck.
One of the best reasons for sailing multi's is their shallow draft, you can find places mono's don't get into... Good for you!
You guys have had a sensible approach to your sailing, as with your lives. The purists will pick faults with trailerable tris or anything under about 30'. However, it's a pretty pragmatic solution for your scenario. Will be happy to see you explore the great lakes some more. Frankly, the Bahamas is saturated by vloggers. It is great to be able to sail all year round.
This'll be like moving from a very small house to a tiny house. But the yard will be huge! You won't have to mow it either.
Love this comparison!
Well you certainly don’t rush in to buy a boat. So I guess we will just have to wait to see which one you decide to buy. I’m sorry that Soulianis came to such a sad end after all your hard work. Looking forward to see which direction you go and when you buy your next boat.
Thanks for following along, Bonnie 💜
Ahhhhh u guys I was so looking forward to the million dollar cat, just kidding 😂 just hope the new boat helps with sea sickness, God bless
I 😊hope y’all find a boat that you want. It was cool y’all were sailing with Billy and Sierra. They have good vlogs if you ever watch them
Rushing from one slowdown attempt to another? You need to discover the doldrums! But I don't think that is in your makeup, at least until you're at anchor again with no good weather window for weeks. So, the answer is a new boat and back to cruising. Then you will settle down to a casual lifestyle, at least when the wind is below 15 knots and the sea is not as confused as you may think you are at the time of this episode.. :¬) Webhead USA
I hope you’ll be able to find the perfect boat for your family
Very exciting. I think RUclips needs a couple with a trainable trimaran. You could also make a Wharram catamaran if you have the time to work on it.
I am gonna play devils advocate.
A huge consideration in a big trailerable boat is what type of vehicle you will need to haul it.
Big diesel, big fuel bills, big maintenance.
Also, where will you store the truck and trailer when you are sailing?
As someone who has worked in the outdoor education/industry for close to 20 years (specifically backpacking and kayaking) I deal with a lot of gear, and gear opinions… And I can tell you there is no perfect piece of outdoor gear. Be it sailboats, kayaks, backpacks, GPS, hiking boots…. If you are lucky, you will find “perfect for you” and that is more than most people can say. Good luck.
The larger Dragonfly foldable tri's are your best bet as they have enough interior spacee you need as well as offshore capability. You can "fold it" and take it up the interior waterways to the great lakes. Good luck!
The Dragonfly boats look amazing. But are unfortunately not easily trailerable because of the way they “fold”.
Last year Tula's Endless Summer towed and sailed a 26 trimaran for a month or two.
Maritime….maritime…..wonderful. Would love to have you!
I saw Billy and Sierra! You guys sailed with Tula!
I've heard that multihulls can be worse for seasickness, because there are two main axes of instability, as opposed to one main axis on a monohull. I hope y'all address that issue at some point.
Well to bad we were never in Turkey Creek at the same time. The yellow cat 2 canals over is mine and I sold my F27 there this winter. I've been sailing multihulls for over 40 yrs. Trailering has it's drawbacks as well.
Was hoping you guys would go all-in on a big ol' Cat... but I'm trying to stay open-minded here. Looking fwd to the next vid!
I was hoping that you had already chosen your new boat. I wish you the best of luck. Oh give that darling daughter of yours a kiss and hug from a 75yo great grandfather.
Bye for now. 🤗
I have been thinking along the same lines as you considering selling my 30 ft schionning cat for a trainable trimaran. I can’t wait to see what you decide.
Did it make it through the storm? The river had over 10 feet of water rise. My boat was in La Belle on the hard and it laid over. Labelle had 125mph winds. I lost my Beneteau on FMB. Keep the dream going.
Your teasing!😂
There's been a Cat sitting at Crowley boat yard for years, that may work. It's back in the corner next to bridge.
Check out Tula’s endless summer.they spent some quality time on a trimaran.traveling all over the east coast.
Fair winds ⛵️
Did you watch through the “Coming Up”? 😉
Could also look at the Hake Seaward 32 large for it size and trailerable, folding mast and hydraulic keel.
Narrow beam for its length. Maybe a seasickness problem.
I would have to design a fencing system for it that folds down as well.
OK. This is a bit more than freaking me out. Just started watching this; knowing Soulianis was knocked around & found amongst a heap of mixed boat debris after Hurricane Ian overran Florida. (At least she was still afloat.)
It is bitter sweet to let a pride enjoy go. But we do move on. HOWEVER! The new owner will have 100% proof of all the amazing work you did via your great videos you have made.
60107 USA says hi.
Multi-hulls are "Soul"-less but a fast, trailerable tri would be a ton of fun.
I dunno. Ask any and all who sailed "Nice Pair' about her being "Soul"-less or not.
Trimaran seems little risky with a baby.
There is a mile of pro's and con's for each type of boat. The only really big thing, is what suits YOU... There are fold-able ocean tri's. There are blow up shove in the boot tri's, and everything in between... A fast tri could be sailed up or down from the lakes to the Caribbean and save yourself a 5 day drive each way... It's all about what suits you...
Ripido offers a foldable 50 and 40 foot tri. The new dragonfly 40’s are nice, but personally I don’t like an open rear cockpit. The older version of the dragonfly 40 know as the 1200 I always loves being a center cockpit with a rear cabin.
We’re excited to see the Rapido trimarans make their way into the market. They’re a bit on the larger and more $$$ side of the equation for our purposes over the next few years. But cool boats all the same!
My dream would be a Silent 60 or a Herley 3400 Powercat
Sailing requires effort in planning, prep, maintenance, and finally, sailing. The first 3 are foundational to go sailing. Great Lakes sailing means 4-6 month season at most, and the beginning of the season is freezing cold still. Focusing on sailing, and reducing all the other areas of effort to as close to zero, is a wise move, when you have many demands on time. The which boat discussion, lacks the context of life in general. Having sailed Georgian Bay a bit, I think a shallow draft folding trimaran, is a sensible modern approach to sailing that area.
What do "we" want in a new boat? Something that Lauren won't get seasick on. On that subject I refer you to "Sailing La Vagabonde" videos.
a trimeran has NO BALLAST......is not self righting and a 'capsize' is not nice.....also be sure to fully rig before buying as it's quite the adventure.......it's a brilliant IDEA, and I 'get' the why it's and idea......best wishes, love the channell