i recommend to 7k begginers to play higher stars maps in half time, this is because in that maps you will find patterns that you will never find in lower stars maps, so you can start adapting to more difficult patterns. Half time is used because obviusly you wont be able to beat a high stars map in normal, so with half time you can start doing that harder patterns slow to learn how to correcly do them, and then when you have learned that patterns you can increase the speed. sorry if my english is bad, its not my main languaje
I actually mentioned this in the video but I cut that section out because I thought it was a boring section of the video OOF. I theorised that 7k was like o!taiko, there's patterns in oni(insane) that doesn't appear in muzukashii(hard). Yeah, people should do this B)
Ive friended you on osu and ive been trying to snipe your scores and its helped me get much better accuracy and hitting the correct keys, i can comfortably play low 3 stars but s rank like 2.6
Ive been a 7k player for about 3 years. (Havent played in months) but i got up to 3.5ish. The leap from high 2 star to 3.5 is huge. Maps get really dense really fast and you are almost always holding 1 or 2 keys by that point
For the time you've spent so far, you've definitely made more progress than most people, probably down to past 4k experience and stuff :P LN maps are usually waaay harder in 7k compared to other modes, but the difficulty scaling is a bit off: There's a 4* LN map that Jakads said was more around 6.5-7, so if you're doing a bit worse on the Ln maps at the same difficulty it's normal Super hyped to see you get into 7k tokaku, best of luck in the grind :3
It has been nearly 2 months since I started playing mania more frequently, my friend wanted me to play 4k with him and during those days I tought about what he told me: "at least you are used to 4 keys" because I play taiko at 5 stars as for now even after rework I am #5296 Since that moment I tough that I could invest a little time trying mania and getting better overall with a different training than usual, I really found fun 6k which is the one I like the most but still go for 7k, I saw the score you did on Neurotoxin and just went to see and try it by myself, rougly got 90.10 acc lol I will stand as a Taiko main also and just started at mapping, still fun to recap the different ways of progressing and getting better each time, keep it up and I will try to get to the same level
if you didn't know, there's a shaggy x matt mod which combines shaggys 9k and matts tough charting, so maybe that can be your final test in this series
@@notdandy6756 True but some Osu Mania players literally play the whole damn piano(or probably 10keys+) I don't think its much of a BS but BS nonetheless.
I am an o!m player for > 10 years and joined tournament twice. And I must say you improved really fast (comparing #1 video earlier and this #2 vid). Keep up the good work! Quick tips: How I improved to the point I play 7star ~ 9star songs now and then, is none other than frequent consistent practice ;) And playing your favourite songs will accelerate your technicality growth ;)
Wait your a fnf channel, you better be ready to catch up with all the previous popular mods and be ready for all the new upcoming mods. Also I went back to osu mania after I got really good at fnf and surprisingly I was able to play up to 6k now thanks to the shaggy mod and low difficulty 7 stars after I previously couldn’t even play anything other than 4 key
@@ammarsp Just read your original comment, you are saying the only good thing fnf EVER DID was cause this series to happen, basically saying otherwise it was terrible
As someone learning Pop'n, the only real curveball I face so far are chords, especially in songs like Der Wald and 乱 on Normal that exercises consecutive chords.
im not trying to learn 7k since i gave up not even a minute into it but ive been trying to learn 6k instead which has been a bit easier! nobody really asked for this but i still wanted to add my little comment :)
Play ROBLOX Literally FNF Testing Place, the timing windows are strict and you can get punished for the slightest mistake. It has most mods and it even has some that you haven't heard of. I suggest you suffer wtih Ghost C Side!
Tokaku, PLEASE when you import multiple maps, if you dont wanna manually move them to song folder. Just highlight them right, and right click one and click open. It imports all the onesu selected at once. Same with skins.
I started getting into mania when I was 16 and now 4 years later, i'm playing it again and Im slowllllllyyyy getting past the 3-4* barrier but still barely. I wish maps with newer patterns was easier to find
Yooo im also learning 7k, leets gooo! I read in a random forum post that its better to get used to 6k first to then go for 7k so im playing 6k to get used to using the ring fingers and 5k to get used to using the thumb, i think its working but since i havent actually played 7k yet i dont really know
Actually, instead of this channel turning into FNF channel, it actually turns into rhythm game channel and focused every rhythm game instead of just focusing on osu! But since it's uhh major pandemic, you can't do much rhythm games on arcade like Maimai, etc. But anyways, I still find this channel inspiring and informative(?) I guess..... You're doing a great job, Jolene. Keep entertaining us!
I started playing and I found myself reading and tapping the keys relative to the previous one instead of reading the colour. So this sometimes led to me misreading the relative distance and mess up the rest of the notes until edge notes appear. How do I stop that?
oh my, I have no idea. I think I got over this back then by playing around with the scroll speed, where it's fast enough that you'd stop comparing notes but slow enough for you to read the colours instead
try to colour the 3113/1357 lanes in a lighter colour, you'll memorize the lighter lanes are used for index and ring finger, and the other lanes for thumb and middle finger. as you progress,once you get used to it, lower the contrast between the two lanes, repeat until you don't need it anymore.
The spacing between notes is usually what you use to determine which to hit when you begin with. Yeah reducing scroll speed is definitely a good idea, and you'd probably get used to spacing subconsciously with time, so you'll grow accustomed to the note locations for your skin. If you're finding it hard to read colours, try a skin with stronger colours, and definitely have a unique one for space bar :) Best of luck :D
Hey! I believe there's a mid whick allows you to change the number of keys. Its in the same section as relax but I don't know if there's a 7k but if there is you're welcome.
Wait until friday night funkin players find out about jakads. They would be hackusating the shit outta him. Even the hardest mod current on friday night funkin is easy for me and would be for tons of other people as well. So if they saw a player with skill like jakads they would be shocked
When i saw the title i thought she collabed with someone, but then i discorvered it was clickbait ;-; I'm glad you're improving your skills at 7k, and it's quite funny that this was because you got recked on the Shaggy Mod (perhaps recked isn't exactly the right word for your situation, but eh). 0:18 didn't know I was from Friday Night Funkin but ok i guess lol.
Oh no I gotta get into the grind or else by next week Jolene will already be way better than me D: tfw tokaku caught up with my skill level in two weeks
I am rather new to 7k, I was on and off for a while, but really started trying a couple days ago and started being able to do 3 stars. I'm rather conflicted however, because I don't see any other 7k players use upscroll, or even circles like I do. I'm not sure if i should switch to downscroll early and just learn it that way.
The problem I have right now in progressing is a massive skill plateau. "Play more" is all I get as an advice. It's true and it's annoying, because I might have been playing more that aren't helpful to improve at all.
you can also see what skills you are struggling on and play maps that have that skillset to improve it, also 7k dans are 4 maps that test your jack, tech, speed, and stamina also for dans 96% no pausing is considered a clear
@@sushifromasia I'm mainly 4k, but it applies the same way I guess. Yeah, I just usually play whatever song I want, not trying out dans and "skillset collections" like dumps or rice, etc
I played 7k for two hours when 1st video of this was published, and kinda did an S on some 3* or just under :D it's really easy to learn, despite the hours I put in 4k.
I tried fnf osu mania too but it was 4 keys and it was fun tbh but Jesus osu it’s on another level and I’m kinda new on rythms but I got called hacker a lot of times.
My keyboard doesn't have that key unlocking technique (which I forgot the name of) so I'm scared to play 7k because it might prevent me from hitting more than 4 keys at places and that's not ideal. I have no issues with 4k though.
Does playing the easiest stuff first to 'grind' apply to all Rhythm games pretty much would you say? I mean I'm terrible at pretty much all that I own but hell it's fun and improvement is so satisfying. Actually found out about Arcaea from your channel and I'm struggling even with easy stuff XD
I started a little bit later than you, I was already able to play maybe up to 4.5 stars with good scores on a iidx controller, but training on keyboard I'm up to about the same level with slightly worse scores
nah im top 1500 in 4k and my 7k skill is garbage, if you want to learn 7k its better to start with it so you can learn the spacebar and ring finger control
i recommend to 7k begginers to play higher stars maps in half time, this is because in that maps you will find patterns that you will never find in lower stars maps, so you can start adapting to more difficult patterns. Half time is used because obviusly you wont be able to beat a high stars map in normal, so with half time you can start doing that harder patterns slow to learn how to correcly do them, and then when you have learned that patterns you can increase the speed.
sorry if my english is bad, its not my main languaje
Thanks for the tip!
Gracias! :)
I actually mentioned this in the video but I cut that section out because I thought it was a boring section of the video OOF. I theorised that 7k was like o!taiko, there's patterns in oni(insane) that doesn't appear in muzukashii(hard). Yeah, people should do this B)
Muchas gracias buen hombre.
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That's a good idea!
You're improving, keep going and you'll be a professional osu! Mania player in no time
Hello fellow nagatoro pfp
prolly gonna take 2 - 3 years by then
@@kiryoon4140 Hello fellow nagatoro pfp
nagatoro pfp
An osu!mania champion
Ive friended you on osu and ive been trying to snipe your scores and its helped me get much better accuracy and hitting the correct keys, i can comfortably play low 3 stars but s rank like 2.6
Ive been a 7k player for about 3 years. (Havent played in months) but i got up to 3.5ish. The leap from high 2 star to 3.5 is huge. Maps get really dense really fast and you are almost always holding 1 or 2 keys by that point
3 to 4 stars is an even bigger jump haha
@@redeal6581 hench why im still at 3.5 lolololol. So many good tracks waiting for me at 4 stars
damn thats harder than 4k
ive been playng under a year 4k and mid high 4 is where i am
How tf do yall play 7k oh wait my keyboard is broken
Tokaku continues THE GRIND
I didnt grind as much but now i can pass up to about 2 stars :D
great work! that's a big improvement especially since you didn't grind as much
best i can do is 3 ;(
I can't play 7k
@@tynarvo2176 same
@@tynarvo2176 same
For the time you've spent so far, you've definitely made more progress than most people, probably down to past 4k experience and stuff :P
LN maps are usually waaay harder in 7k compared to other modes, but the difficulty scaling is a bit off: There's a 4* LN map that Jakads said was more around 6.5-7, so if you're doing a bit worse on the Ln maps at the same difficulty it's normal
Super hyped to see you get into 7k tokaku, best of luck in the grind :3
I don't think more than most people
I can S some of the 3 star maps, feels good man. I'm a 4k main, This series motivated me to play 7k more.
i am a 4k main to but i can read 6k unless its to hard
I don't play either one of them (used to play a bit of 4k) but I just decided to start soon and join tokaku on her adventure
i cant play 7k cause my kb doesnt register it propely
@@bluely8832 4k main*
@@yat_ii then how do you even play 4K then????? because you’d still have the same problem??
I love this series, please never stop it I wanna see you beat jakads
yes
She can’t beat jakads... he’s Korean
@@batotskie3744 got a point
@The Phsychotic Player never said jakads is human. Just said he’s Korean
It has been nearly 2 months since I started playing mania more frequently, my friend wanted me to play 4k with him and during those days I tought about what he told me: "at least you are used to 4 keys" because I play taiko at 5 stars as for now even after rework I am #5296
Since that moment I tough that I could invest a little time trying mania and getting better overall with a different training than usual, I really found fun 6k which is the one I like the most but still go for 7k, I saw the score you did on Neurotoxin and just went to see and try it by myself, rougly got 90.10 acc lol
I will stand as a Taiko main also and just started at mapping, still fun to recap the different ways of progressing and getting better each time, keep it up and I will try to get to the same level
if you didn't know, there's a shaggy x matt mod which combines shaggys 9k and matts tough charting, so maybe that can be your final test in this series
The issue with the shaggy and Matt team up mod is that tough charting doesn't mean always mean well made. The songs can gets extremely BS
@@notdandy6756 True but some Osu Mania players literally play the whole damn piano(or probably 10keys+)
I don't think its much of a BS but BS nonetheless.
@@zom_tyt7382 Not the amount of keys, the charting. Compare a mania 9k map with the shaggy team up map and you can see pretty clearly the difference.
@@notdandy6756 agreed 100%
@@notdandy6756 i checked the charting myself and its pretty on point, a few notes are a lil off but they aint bad
I'm so happy you're trying to play 7k, I m sure you can improve it. Thank you for playing 7k :D
yo its actually so nice to see ppl having fun with 7k (and also giving it more exposure lol) :>
enjoying the series so far !
I haven't practice that much, but at least I think that I'm getting a little more consistent, still can't S most of 2.5* maps tho
I am an o!m player for > 10 years and joined tournament twice. And I must say you improved really fast (comparing #1 video earlier and this #2 vid). Keep up the good work! Quick tips: How I improved to the point I play 7star ~ 9star songs now and then, is none other than frequent consistent practice ;) And playing your favourite songs will accelerate your technicality growth ;)
Your commitment to improving is inspiring. Not just for rhythm games, but in general.
This video motivated me too play 7k instead of just 4K and now I’m rank 6 in Puerto Rico for 7k😂
fnf players when they are introduced to osu!mania
the title snd thumbnail are perfectly fine they are perfect
Wait your a fnf channel, you better be ready to catch up with all the previous popular mods and be ready for all the new upcoming mods.
Also I went back to osu mania after I got really good at fnf and surprisingly I was able to play up to 6k now thanks to the shaggy mod and low difficulty 7 stars after I previously couldn’t even play anything other than 4 key
Friday night funkin did one good thing and that was making this series happen
Why are all Tokaku fans fnf haters, jesus
I agree
@@confusedpikachu3843 you mean all vsrg players
@@confusedpikachu3843 i dont hate fnf nor its community
@@ammarsp Just read your original comment, you are saying the only good thing fnf EVER DID was cause this series to happen, basically saying otherwise it was terrible
As someone learning Pop'n, the only real curveball I face so far are chords, especially in songs like Der Wald and 乱 on Normal that exercises consecutive chords.
i love how we're watching tokaku's decent into madness
im not trying to learn 7k since i gave up not even a minute into it but ive been trying to learn 6k instead which has been a bit easier! nobody really asked for this but i still wanted to add my little comment :)
interesting to watch as a 7k player please continue this
you're making pretty fast progress in 7k compared to the average player pog
Play ROBLOX Literally FNF Testing Place, the timing windows are strict and you can get punished for the slightest mistake. It has most mods and it even has some that you haven't heard of. I suggest you suffer wtih Ghost C Side!
Tokaku, PLEASE when you import multiple maps, if you dont wanna manually move them to song folder. Just highlight them right, and right click one and click open.
It imports all the onesu selected at once. Same with skins.
I love to see these videos beforehand on stream
I started getting into mania when I was 16 and now 4 years later, i'm playing it again and Im slowllllllyyyy getting past the 3-4* barrier but still barely. I wish maps with newer patterns was easier to find
Yooo im also learning 7k, leets gooo!
I read in a random forum post that its better to get used to 6k first to then go for 7k so im playing 6k to get used to using the ring fingers and 5k to get used to using the thumb, i think its working but since i havent actually played 7k yet i dont really know
the other thing is pattern reading for 7k is different from 5k and 6k
Actually, instead of this channel turning into FNF channel, it actually turns into rhythm game channel and focused every rhythm game instead of just focusing on osu! But since it's uhh major pandemic, you can't do much rhythm games on arcade like Maimai, etc. But anyways, I still find this channel inspiring and informative(?) I guess..... You're doing a great job, Jolene. Keep entertaining us!
I started playing and I found myself reading and tapping the keys relative to the previous one instead of reading the colour. So this sometimes led to me misreading the relative distance and mess up the rest of the notes until edge notes appear. How do I stop that?
oh my, I have no idea. I think I got over this back then by playing around with the scroll speed, where it's fast enough that you'd stop comparing notes but slow enough for you to read the colours instead
try to colour the 3113/1357 lanes in a lighter colour, you'll memorize the lighter lanes are used for index and ring finger, and the other lanes for thumb and middle finger.
as you progress,once you get used to it, lower the contrast between the two lanes, repeat until you don't need it anymore.
The spacing between notes is usually what you use to determine which to hit when you begin with. Yeah reducing scroll speed is definitely a good idea, and you'd probably get used to spacing subconsciously with time, so you'll grow accustomed to the note locations for your skin. If you're finding it hard to read colours, try a skin with stronger colours, and definitely have a unique one for space bar :)
Best of luck :D
Hey! I believe there's a mid whick allows you to change the number of keys. Its in the same section as relax but I don't know if there's a 7k but if there is you're welcome.
I like how the auto-generated captions censored you when you said "funkin'" lol
the first sped up segment sounded like a blender trying to blend a sponge
tokaku: makes 6 fnf videos
also tokaku: i Am FnF cHaNnEl
Alr you got me hooked imm try grinding more on 7k…
Tokaku's soul is being sucked out because of the grind
This video will be amazing, i feel it 😂
Tokaku : "this is kinda trash"
Me with 65 Hz keyboard : 👁️👁️
👄
2:19 It's sounds like i am at Chernobyl S.T.A.L.K.E.R or i am at the Mojave wasteland again ( fallout new vegas basically ).
try playing o2jam, the 7k only rhythm game
Wait until friday night funkin players find out about jakads. They would be hackusating the shit outta him. Even the hardest mod current on friday night funkin is easy for me and would be for tons of other people as well. So if they saw a player with skill like jakads they would be shocked
he's too good
@@sushifromasia fr
I finally cleared both 0th dan regular and LN, after playing 7k for 8 months.
These Are my favorite type of videos. I LOVE OSU MANIA
When i saw the title i thought she collabed with someone, but then i discorvered it was clickbait ;-;
I'm glad you're improving your skills at 7k, and it's quite funny that this was because you got recked on the Shaggy Mod (perhaps recked isn't exactly the right word for your situation, but eh).
0:18 didn't know I was from Friday Night Funkin but ok i guess lol.
NOOO TOKAKU, you are NOT a fnf player remember your past, you always played osu GET OUT OF THE FNF COMMUNITY
Sadly i didn't start 7k because i wanted to see if i could get good enough to get S ranks on 6 stars in 4k
she improved faster than me, though i don't put that much time into it
keep up the progress tokaku
I thought my headphones broke when the time lapse showed up since I wasn't looking at the screen lmao
Oh no I gotta get into the grind or else by next week Jolene will already be way better than me D:
tfw tokaku caught up with my skill level in two weeks
I am rather new to 7k, I was on and off for a while, but really started trying a couple days ago and started being able to do 3 stars.
I'm rather conflicted however, because I don't see any other 7k players use upscroll, or even circles like I do. I'm not sure if i should switch to downscroll early and just learn it that way.
The problem I have right now in progressing is a massive skill plateau. "Play more" is all I get as an advice. It's true and it's annoying, because I might have been playing more that aren't helpful to improve at all.
you can also see what skills you are struggling on and play maps that have that skillset to improve it, also 7k dans are 4 maps that test your jack, tech, speed, and stamina also for dans 96% no pausing is considered a clear
@@sushifromasia I'm mainly 4k, but it applies the same way I guess. Yeah, I just usually play whatever song I want, not trying out dans and "skillset collections" like dumps or rice, etc
if you need help with setting up an o2jam client let me know!
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Idk how but I went from barely passing a 3* to getting my first s on a 3.2* in a single day
Bit weird that I improved this quickly
You know what they say if you can’t beat em join em
This thumbnail style is awesome 😂😂
6:20 o2jam be like:
Jakads would be proud
"hewwo everybody" never gets old 😌
Unrelated but I love your hairstyle!
I love your voice! You sound like bmo
I played 7k for two hours when 1st video of this was published, and kinda did an S on some 3* or just under :D it's really easy to learn, despite the hours I put in 4k.
Pretty insane tokaku
hi toki,amazing vid
why did that video title made me laugh for like 10 mins straight
Haha nice title
Gonna learn 7k now
You inspired me to not use a potato to play games anymore
Even if i quit osu i will still be a tokaku fan
2:19 is an absolute banger song
Join the 7k unranked archive Discord for a HUGE amount of 7k maps!!! You can do "mode=m" and "key=7" and also like "star>#, star
(Alternate title)
Jolene sort of suffers playing 7 key.
The fact that you can open so many maps and your screen doesn't start stuttering makes me jealous
I started 7k in almost the same time as you, i can do 2.5 stars very well, at 3 stars i make some misses and die at 4 stars
tokaku in the start just looks like a child that just woke up and got on the computer before they fully woke up
I tried fnf osu mania too but it was 4 keys and it was fun tbh but Jesus osu it’s on another level and I’m kinda new on rythms but I got called hacker a lot of times.
im still relatively new to 7k and i have trouble pressing space. do you use both hands or use one hand or alternate
probably one hand
xd tokaku is now a fnf channel
70% of 7k charts are unranked tbh
I think it's more like 72.7%
@@naufalfawwazsyah8373 haha nice joke
Anyway if you want more charts, just go to mapper's profile and download the charts directly from their page
@@naufalfawwazsyah8373 wyfsi
Actually tho
@@naufalfawwazsyah8373 *72* % of *7* k charts are unranked tbh
2:19 so this is what my dial up modem was making those sounds for all those years?
So this is what osu player supposed to be like
*Overchart intensified*
I finally tried taiko! Aka.... taiko web... Same thing with osuweb, FNF, bemuse, which is very fun, and RoBeats. Yeah I don't have a windows pc
NO WAY, YOU PLAYED OSU MANIA, BUT YOU-YOUR-YOUR A FNF CHANNEL!!!!
im only used to 4k osumania and wanted to upgrade my gameplay
Um... for my couple of months of 5k and 4 k and 7k, in your ep. 2 of trying to learn 7k, ur already better than me hehe.....
My keyboard doesn't have that key unlocking technique (which I forgot the name of) so I'm scared to play 7k because it might prevent me from hitting more than 4 keys at places and that's not ideal. I have no issues with 4k though.
1:35 i remember reading this same comment and reply 0.0
8:14 so that explains why my unstable rate is 330 and im -20 i play with a membrane keyboard
i wonder how much ad revenue she's farming right now
Pro Rhythm gamers deserves all the money and views their getting
Maybe a lot like BeastTroll maybe
Nice art style
Does playing the easiest stuff first to 'grind' apply to all Rhythm games pretty much would you say? I mean I'm terrible at pretty much all that I own but hell it's fun and improvement is so satisfying. Actually found out about Arcaea from your channel and I'm struggling even with easy stuff XD
well if you are a beginner id say the most important skills to learn are finger control, accuracy, and pattern reading
Guess what tokaku I finally!!!!!! Beat God eater cannon with attempts no cap
dang
m e t o o
2 weeks ago
real
I wish this was happening when I was attempting 9k on stepmania. Cant be bothered with it now. :(
I started a little bit later than you, I was already able to play maybe up to 4.5 stars with good scores on a iidx controller, but training on keyboard I'm up to about the same level with slightly worse scores
me who just reached 7k at 2 stars: woah am i tokaku
I feel like 4K is more of a gateway into 7K but has the option to be a permanent fix.
nah im top 1500 in 4k and my 7k skill is garbage, if you want to learn 7k its better to start with it so you can learn the spacebar and ring finger control
@@sushifromasia I meant more as a sense of usually 4K players go into 7k eventually
@@HeyImCas yea well kinda because some people get bored with 4k
Hey tokaku can you do a beatmap pack with all your 7k beatmaps?
2:19 madness combat?
I have more 7k maps then 4k maps. I have no idea what I'm doing.
I'm just trying to get to the 7k dans lol