It’s getting ridiculous. Look at how Nintendo still has the Switch out here making money. Focus on the games! I don’t know why this is even a topic when Phil Spencer himself said that it wasn’t needed.
Lmao switch can barely run cartoon graphics at 1080p without problems. Y'all gotta LEAVE the switch comparison its underpowered (And the games... Go buy Mario Kart 8 for the 3rd time lol).
@@saxboss1 Half baked yea everyone seems to forget it started back with mass effect my face is tired remember that shit? That downward american studio's spiral never ended.
They need to fast track more games that actually take advantage of the current gen instead of worrying about the next one. Most gamers playing last gen games on the current gen consoles 😪
single player games are dying, you finish them and they're over, they already make single player games anyway, halo, gears, doom, etc, its just most of them have multiplayer modes which playststion doesnt do. thats why xbox games are still being played years after launch and sonys games arent.
@@deeplaysgaming4754 I don't see Playstation talking about releasing all of their games on Xbox or Nintendo. Meanwhile, Phil Spencer is opening up the platform. Face it dude, he played the Xbox user base.
This is such a ridiculous conversation. We're asking if Microsoft should rush another console to market after they fumbled on the last two generations. Now they want to start a new gen early and suggest players spend more money sooner. If anything they should be taking their time to do it right. We should be offended that Microsoft is asking us to invest in new hardware especially earlier than normal. They haven't earned that. Don't forget, rushing the 360 to market to beat Sony caused the red ring of death.
@@professormilly2021 they didn’t fumble this generation at all. You just have people frothing at the mouths over a PoS5 with no games 🤣😂. Sony has released only three games that’s broken 2 million copies this generation, that’s it!Once the casuals decide on a platform, you may as well pack it up.
@@RickyEnEspanol xbox fumbled every exclusive and not only that xbox players aren't buying any games or adding concurrent Game pass subscribers xbox players have forced xbox hand and now all Xbox exclusives coming to Sony now Xbox the new SEGA don't know how is this benefiting them 🤷🏽♂️
@ Lol. I’d be far more worried about Sony at this point than Xbox. Sony is a copycat box that’s 6 years behind the Xbox in platform direction, All of their investor calls, they echo the same rhetoric as Xbox. They’re both pivoting away from the box because the console market isn’t growing at all. The only difference is that Sony doesn’t have any content of note to maintain an ecosystem. It’s all one and done games, hence the pivot to GaaS. They rely primarily on third party content and console loyalists with their PS+ revenue to stay afloat. Xbox was already the best of the three when it came to money making franchises and non-one and dones, they then went and bought the king of GaaS games with ABK. I got all your games on PC, I could care less either way, but Xbox will be running the industry in a few years time with the moves they’re making. Consoles won’t be and will never be the future, all the other boxes under TVs already pretty much went the way of the dodo bird. DVD players, cd players, VHS, all dead. Now they’re apps on a TV or mobile phone.
The focus should be on games. The average gamer won't see the boost in graphics as a big change from current gen. They will care more about hitting 60fps as the quality mode with 120fps being the performance mode.
I just want 30fps to die and go away. It just to low and can be notice and felt. At 60fps things are smooth enough and I do not care if I go to 120fps as much . But 30fps is just awful .
@@Crashed131963 I hope 30fps never goes away; there are many like myself that enjoy playing their single-player, heavy narrative-driven, action-based games like that. It provides a more deliberate, cinematic flair. 60fps on all games is not appropriate. For some, it makes them look like everything is moving too fast, which makes it less aesthetically pleasing. The majority of gamers outside the hardcore don’t care about 60.
Series X console is just fine. They really should’ve had a next gen controller similar to the dualsense’s capabilities. It’s rumored that the next gen Xbox will have a controller that does just that but that isn’t enough to unveil a whole new console.
@Lucasmennitti1 I recently returned 2 controllers with a brand new series x this month with faulty sticks on both controllers, always been an xbox player ever since I had one next to my ps2.. I have taken my xsx back and now I have a ps5 and honestly most fun I have had on a console in years with the ps exclusives
They need to focus on pushing the current hardware, delivering games, and get a handheld out ASAP Handheld needs to be their mid gen refresh make it as powerful as the Series S
@@toot1st105 But a 'new generation' of console without games that you cant play elsewhere isn't really a 'new generation' console at all. It'll just be some XSX Pro in all but name. All while a PS6 will come along a couple years later and trounce it in terms of technology, sales and games.
@@DLastResort but Ryan has been the Xbox guy and never lets up - so if max isn't the playstation guy, he should be replaced with a Playstation guy otherwise what's the point of haven't a blue and green representative supposedly speaking their thoughts on behalf of the respective consoles ....
The gaming market is just as cultural as it is logistical. During the Xbox 360 days, it was cool to own an Xbox. It was the place to play mature, blockbuster level games, whilst having the most accessible and effective online ecosystem. Since the Xbox One launch, it feels like that ghost still looms and haunts Xbox till this day - an unshakable stigma. This is why I think Xbox would benefit so much from a total rebrand. Ditch the corporate marketing and start appealing specifically to kids and young adults again. Give us a clean slate. New console, new UI, new social features, new games. Draw a line in the sand and make a clear destination between the “Xbox One” era and the new era. Lean into what originally made the Xbox platform worth investing in.
They had every opportunity to turn things around after the XB1 launch debacle. A whole generation to right the ship and repair their reputation, but they just never did. Their 1st party output was just terrible and it took them buying a bunch of other studios to make it seem like they had any decent exclusives at all, and even then a whole bunch of those have been stumbles as well. They simply haven't been delivering on consistently good exclusives since like 2010-2011. And now they're abandoning exclusivity, which has fully doomed them in the console competition. Their sales have never been worse.
What's the point of rushing to next gen? 3rd party devs are not going to develop just for a newer Xbox. Like it or not, 3rd party devs will be developing with Switch 2 as their minimum. If it runs out Switch, it won't be that much more impressive on a 'next gen console' They can't even make decent games in house so there is absolutely no point.
The power of series x hasn't even been pushed to the max yet... why even talk about a new console, i've had the series x since it came out in 2020 - there hasn't been anything of significance which has come this gen - the stand out games for me have been witcher 3 and rdr2... yeah last gen games!
@@m_saqibali I definitely agree with you. And even with that being said RDR2 doesn’t even have a 60fps mode which the series x is more than capable of doing. Metro and Doom are good as well but I still agree with the power of the series x not being used to its max
When Phil said games don't sell consoles he lost me and everyone else. Nintendo proves for 40 years now that you don't have to have the best graphics to sell consoles. You need amazing IPs and always fresh new games. The Switch and 3DS prove my point. Xbox 360 was the peak of their brand because... THEY HAD THE GAMES.
I don’t think it matters. Everything is an Xbox now according to their advertising. As someone who’s picked up almost every NA console at launch, I’m doubtful that I’ll even buy the next Xbox. The current console doesn’t provide me anything the I can’t get on my other consoles, steamdeck or PC. They need to have something to differentiate themselves if they want to be successful in the console market.
Probably a safe choice, they’re being pretty open about their strategy. Doesn’t seem like they’re particularly invested in hardware any more, so it’s foolish for customers to show loyalty to a product when the company doesn’t have that same loyalty.
The PS5 Pro already has two terabytes of storage. The 2 TB Series Xbox is 600.00. A disk drive and stand for the Pro put you at 800. You should be setting your pro up horizontally anyway to extend its life.
This is dumb. If Playstation 5 Pro has to cost 700.00 for its upgrade, how much would a next generation Xbox cost right now? At least 900.00 to 1k. The tech has to go down in price in order to make a big jump at a good price, and the only thing that makes the price drop is time. Terrible take by professionals.
If the next xbox console releases at a normal time (2ish years away) it'll be like $500-$600 starting and likely just fall short of rivaling a 4070 super, but be just slightly better than a 4070. Considering a PS5 pro is closer to a 3060ti
Been an Xbox user since the 360. Personally, I have no affiliation. Just use it to play games on. So it meets my needs. Got a PS5 when it became more easily available and have played a couple of exclusives on it, Bloodborne, Shadow of the Colossus and a couple of others. Currently, for new games I look at where I can get it cheaper, which is usually Xbox. I’ve also played a load of games via gamepass so that’s a useful option I’ll continue to use while I can afford to.
Unless you buy a Switch a person can not go wrong . Most all new game releases and games coming out for 2025 play on PC, ,S-X and Ps5 anyways . I just bought a $500 Ps5 with disc drive because I consider playing new games fo $500 a cheap price to pay . I was buying a $1000 PC to play games on. My phone does my internet stuff fine .
The hardware isn’t the problem it’s the software, at least in comparison to PlayStation. Why rush a new console if the price to performance isn’t there, why not just let the technology develop and release a console when it’s ready?
Loving my £250 laptop with its integrated graphics, plays all the best Indy games and a surprising amount of 6+ year old GOTY classics seamlessly and plugs right into the TV and BT Xbox controller to game from that!
The answer is NO. If anything this console gen should be extended. This whole era has been a mess. 4 years in and we still aren’t consistently getting games that take advantage of the hardware. We’ve only been getting remakes and visual upgrades
Max makes a good point though. I don't want hardware for the sake of it. I want to see next level stuff. It needs to push the line forward. What do I think that will look like? Persistent open world multiplayer games: - Shooters the size of Planetside 2 but with the kind of graphics we are used to from DICE. - Full open world coop on Sony's upcoming games like Horizon 3 or the rumored Insomniac X-men game - MMORPGs that deliver on what we saw in the trailer for Anthem. - An open world Mirror's Edge 3 with full multiplayer co-op. - Playstation Home 2.0
"the phones are a thousand dollars." Kinda just hit everybody. Nobody buying a 1000$ phone should be complaining about a 700$ console now or in 2-4 years.
@dctrbrass bro my limit is prob 150$ on a phone but I'm not a phone guy and I drink a bit too much for an expensive piece like that. I hear you tho I'm down to spend bank on a system( a good 1) but I'ma gamer.
Ryan really regrets his PSVR2 purchase haha. He also describes Microsoft as smart for skipping vr and skipping mid gen refresh like they make all the right choices with hardware when they tried to give us the kinect.
I feel like allowing people to play their Steam games (or even other apps like EA or Epic) on the new Xbox would be a huge win. It would definitely save me a ton of money, as I wouldn't have to buy a gaming PC anymore.
Looks like Valve are working up to releasing a Steam box in the next couple of years, I’ll probably buy that to cut PC and Xbox out. Steam for TV, Switch for handheld.
HELL NO as it would bomb based on the current Xbox marketing strategy, buy a PS5 or PS5 Pro instead - and I'm (was) an Xbox fan, but no point as no exclusives.
@@MohammedRyad-gs5rt I mean he is right if you want to play Playstation games just get a PC all their exclusives are on there consoles all come down to preference but the real best system is PC I can also play old ps1 and ps2 games on my Xbox by emulating which even Playstation themselves can't do I own both but I like my xbox better but again these consoles are all about preference so if you like Playstation better all power to you
@@MohammedRyad-gs5rt how many first party games have snoy released this gen that isnt remasters.... How many first party games will snoy release in 2025/2026 thats not remasters/remakes?
@@dusermiginte4647 Sackboy: a big adventure Spiderman Miles Morales Astro's Playroom MLB The Show (2021,2022,2023,2024) Returnal R&C Rift Apart God of War Ragnarok GT7 Horizon Forbidden West Spiderman 2 Astrobot Lego Horizon Adventures
@@Ben.B.Benjamin yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
I wish anyone the best that still has their Series X. I caved in and let GameStop pawn mine off of me. Sony’s strategy is traditional but it’s been effective with the experience. That new UI and controller speaks volumes
I still have mine and honestly have not used it in forever. The lack of exclusives has completely hurt the system. I still have mine because I want to play the new Gears of War once that comes out. Other than that, I would've been sold it. Such a powerful machine going to waste
@@HeIzCisco the problem is the focus on exclusives and not what other games are available on the console.. I have over 300 games and game pass gives me more to play, focusing on just exclusives defeats the purpose of gaming in the first place when that was never the point to begin with, the point of gaming is to play the games you like and enjoy, not what games are exclusive to the console.
Sony's strategy is literally rinse and repeat and the only exclusive they have that you can play with friends on is helldivers 2.. I'll still take Xbox any day even with it's faults and if it gets bad enough i'll still own one and probably get a pc eventually for any games that are "console locked" lmao. I can tell a lot of people nowadays aren't real gamers and only focus on the negatives and not the positives. Build your library of games more and you wouldn't focus on just exclusives. PlayStation's controller design also hasn't changed once in years and feels too small and basic in most people's hands, whereas the Xbox controllers take actual skill to learn how to be good with. Wow a swipe pad nobody asked for, so cool playstation.. Lmfao.
@@kxngreal485 I hear you completely. The attractive thing about playstation and it has been this way since the PS4 are the exclusive games. This is why they are beating Xbox in sales. Granted, this generation of consoles has been disappointing in that area, Playstation at least can say they have released more exclusive games than Xbox this generation. Which is why people geared more towards them. I think as a console the Xbox is better , but it does not attract people due to the lack of exclusivity. People say "Why would I buy an xbox to play the same games that I can play on a ps5, while also being able to play playstation exclusives that I will not be able to play on xbox" Only thing Xbox has going for them is the game pass. Other than that, they are completely weak in comparison to playstation. This is coming from an xbox fanboy myself.
@@HeIzCisco sales don't matter and shouldn't be the basis of the whole console wars argument. Sales don't show if the owners actually use the console for gaming or entertainment just that they bought said console. I swear that's the worst argument, I have friends that still use the ps4 because they can't afford a ps5 and don't see a point in getting one unless it's for a game that's console locked. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of gaming honestly.
The reason why PS5 Pro were a weak upgrade, is because there isn't any other available upgrades unless you use real CPU's and GPU's, but that's too expensive for consoles. Rushing out a console like Sony did is pointless.
Enhanced to me means 4k/60fps from 4k/30fps and the Ps5 Pro does not have a lot of that on newer games . The base Ps5 has over 150 Ps4 games that were updated for free to 4k/60 as it is.
The console is fine its the fact that all the games we want are on ps5. Final fantasy 16, black myth, final fantasy 7, xbox needs to get these games for us
If Microsoft were to release an Xbox Series Max Edition tomorrow, featuring hardware as powerful as an Nvidia 4090 and a 9800X3D chip for a subsidized price of $999, I would still hesitate to purchase it. As others have pointed out, without compelling games, it’s hard to justify the buy. They need to rethink and revitalize what made the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 successful. I suggest they bring back the original team: J. Allard, Kevin Bachus, Seamus Blackley, Ted Hase, and Otto Berkes, the DirectX team leader. A brainstorming session with these veterans could lead to valuable insights and innovative ideas.
I would really like it if xbox released a more powerful console. Streaming is dependent on an outside source to play games. Streaming also has lag and compromises. I would want the new console I will spend the 700 bucks to have no compromises.
Microsoft just needs to turn xbox into a PC-Console hybrid, where it can dual boot to be used as fully fledged windows pc or has xbox console mode, and make it completely usable with mouse + keyboard. It's just a standardized pc where developers target it for optimized settings and experience, or Microsoft can automatically set otpimized settings that works well for the hardware (similar to geforce optimize settings kind of thing). I know many who are still interested in pc gaming but don't want to pay a fortune for assembling a PC, nor they're interested anymore in doing a research, nor they're interested in console with controllers exclusive as an input method. Steam deck is very close to this, except this would be windows based pc/console.
Well that's the problem - it's a formula Valve could easily do themselves and probably do it better. If Xbox cant even compete even Playstation in the console space, they'll struggle even worse against Valve in the PC space.
@@MajDroid sort of similar to what PS3 did? Sony allowed you to partition your HDD and dual boot their own OS and also have a Linux OS on the PS3 too, PC mouse and keyboard worked via either Bluetooth and/or USB too. I forget why but Sony later removed this feature in an OS system software update, but at the time not many people cared about losing the functionality or even knew it was a thing as hardly anybody used that feature. I mean sure it was Linux and not the more popular Windows, but even then I don't think its really a highly requested feature of a console in the living room, Windows sucks for living rooms on TVs far away lol its designed primarily for desktop use which is why even if Xbox make a PC/console hybrid dual boot system it won't be as magical as you think it may be, it would probably sell Steamdeck numbers or even worse.
@@craigsampson3386 What you described is for power users and is not an out of the box experience for all users. The closest thing i'm trying to describe here is SteamDeck, the default mode is Console-ish experience but you can switch to Desktop and use it like a regular PC, now imagine something similar that is Windows based. I'm certain this will appeal to a lot of people who use it on their desks and not as a console and want to use xbox to play as a PC if needed.
This shows that corporations aren't the only ones that are “power” hungry. The series X is powerful enough. They still haven't fully utilize the full power of this beast of a system. I can only speak for myself, I just want more games. Don't need new generation anytime soon.
Ps5 pro is kind of flying off the shelves. It’s been sold out at my local target, GS and Walmart since it came out. And if you want the disc drive, good luck, that is sold out everywhere and selling for 150-200 online.
@ yes. I don’t understand why the Beyond guy has turned so sour on PlayStation this year. Always so negative and he even seems a little oblivious/ignorant. Miss the old days with Jonathan Dornbush. He was objective and generally had a positive attitude.
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
They have sold on PC for like 10 years Xbox hasn't done exclusives in a long time. The whole console thing don't matter to a company worth 3 trillion dollars. Microsoft is worth like 40x what Sony is worth.
@@TravisTheSavage Xbox consoles are their number 1 seller for GamePass as nobody else wants it on other platforms. If Xbox dies so does GamePass and all of their massive investments down the drain. It would take forever to gain their 69 billion investments back selling games normally without GamePass subscription income coming in.
Sure it would be nice for them to release a next generation console in 2 years and before Sony. But only if they have the games to back it up this time! GamePass releases has actually increased recently, but they need to improve on quality too, as some games look somewhat wonky or unfinished. They also need to work on the menu UI, I know you only use it for a little, but it is just bad as of now. They also need to improve the standard controller and finally release a new Elite controller. And yes a handheld would be nice too.
Why would they improve on quality , people are giving them money every month regardless of what they shove on gamepass your opinions means nothing but your money means everything , simply put you don't have a say paying for gamepass and refusing to leave it when a bad game releases Gamepass was always anti consumer trash
Game Pass is still a great value. But, other than that, there has been no reason to own an Xbox for the last 10 years. There hasn’t been a single must have exclusive.
Gears, Halo, Forza, and other exclusives are actually worth having an Xbox for. Xbox's main issue is lack of exclusive single player games that play and look like a blockbuster movie. Honestly though until last of us 3 comes out or a new spider-man or the next god of war, there's really no reason to own a PlayStation either. Guess that's why pc is best bc it can play any game.
It's funny you say this in fairness I have the 3 current systems (ps5 og digital series s switch lite) I was playing forza horizon 5 just cruising in my Bugatti that I had just hooked up (engine upgrades colors etc) I'm on the road and open up the map setting my GPS towards the highway and as I get there I hit the straight and hit a new max of 268mph as I pull off the highway I pull over into a random field of sunflowers (light my joint in real life) and just look at my car and the surroundings and setting in amazement at how free the game makes you feel YOU CANNOT DO THAT in gran torismo 7 it's all track 😂 no car game exclusive besides horizon for xbox is letting you do that it's things like that that let you appreciate a console for something only it has so basically you on some big bs 😂
They should fast track their handheld because a handheld + gamepass would be killer. Also, just focus on games - a new console doesn’t matter if there’s no good games to play. And I don’t mean AAA games, just go for singles and doubles. Leave the AAA to Sony and carve a new path into indies, 2.5D, Single and double A games. If they could do a solid, new game every 3 months, that would keep people on game pass
@@mrglass7133 Gaming pc plays better. Sony base ps5 plays better and has a better adaptive controller hell and now even ps portal streaming games without needing a ps5. 0.o xbox has gamepass $240 to rent COD Bo6 where a base ps5 with Sony's psn get you TWO YEARS for the same price. Xbox is just a bumper sticker now.
Xbox needs to release a handheld in atleast 2026. Then release killer console in 2028 that can be connected to the handheld through a dock and work together as one badass console. Allowing games on the hand held to be played on the console and vice versa but they also work together to make make games look as good as possible.
I dont think the hardware is the issue. Gotta keep in mind that games sell hardware. I think that they are also confusing consumers with all these different strategy, i.e. streaming, and announcing handhelds. I used to a Playstation guy all the way. That changed when the Xbox One X and gamepass.
thing is xbox hasnt had a soul in its machine since the 360. a vibe almost. i think the ps5 is even worse i find the whole system quite ugly personally. but what i wanna see in the next system is a great vibe in the UI its self and not just the final xbone ui. your paying 500 for these systems its should feel new. obviously the hardware increase is a given, but id like to see an almost modernised 360 ui. or even the choice for different interfaces. be dope to have the option to have a 4k xbox 360 esk ui
Like caring what my coffee maker looks like, I just want it to make coffee . As long as the Ps5 plays new games. Most all new game releases and games coming out for 2025 play on the Ps5 that's all that matters .
Gamers wanted exclusive games to xbox only. Like Xbx 360 era. Never happened. Just get or build a pc. And gamepass. It's the best investment time for long-term gaming hardware. Pc is King. 🤴
Its time xbox fans are honest... its just a disaster for xbox all the time... zero GOTY nominations at game awards 13 years in a row. Zero elite first party ganes. Horrible console sales. Its a disaster!!
I’ve been saying for a long time they should make the smartest business move and shift from pushing hardware to strictly software like Sega. They would make more money than they’ve ever seen. People like Halo, Gears, COD, etc. So just sell licenses to other people that make dope hardware and sit back while all the money flows in.
I can guarantee that Herman Hulst, Hideaki Nishino, Doug Bowser, Shuntaro Furukuwa, Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, Sarah Bond as well as all the other heads of gaming companies/studios/publishers would laugh at you as you literally don't have a clue what you are talking about 🤣
A Steamdeck is all you need. Free online multi-player, the option to download and play games, even from the Switch. I can mod anything. My Xbox series S with all the games I played for years collects dust.
Xbox should offhand hardware production to 3rd parties, have asus, samsung, hp, etc make their own xbox certified machines, and let microsoft focus on building the best ecosystem, all games, playable across all devices, on a single account. Like google does with android.
@@sumomaster9144 The same as AMD and Nvidia do with their GPUs, they let other companies make the cards. Consoles and handhelds are dedicated gaming machines, that won't change.
@@onionface5835 who fixes the drivers and stuff? if it's these other companies then you don't control the experience and can't fix it...when something breaks, the customer will complain that xbox is bad
The Dreamcast's failure isn't related to jumping the gun. SEGA needed to put out a cost-effective box and had internal politics that created issues with its development and ultimately its deployment. Sony's inclusion of a DVD Player absolutely contributed to the demise of the Dreamcast. This coupled with horrible business decisions of the past. SEGA waiting to release closer to the PS2 or shortly thereafter would have resulted likely in a console never launching in the first place. The next generation of consoles will not have this issue because Blu-Ray meets the needs of physical media and hardware is far more PC-like than ever before.
Next xbox needs to align with pc so a pc in console form with all the pc catalogue. That is game changing also a steam deck style system is interesting. To stay on the same console path means Sony wins again. The lack of innovative and fun games is the other problem.
The next Xbox should have a proper launch and not a soft launch without new games. It's not a Pro version but a new generation. It should arrive by the end of 2026 or summer 2027 (a year or two ahead of PS6) with the following: - New gen controller - New Xbox OS that supports Windows 3rd party game stores such as Steam, GOG, Epic Store, etc - A couple of amazing temporary exclusives Day 1 - Improved graphics for some games Day 1 specific to the new Xbox Some of the temporary exclusive games could be: - Forza Horizon 6 - Halo - Killer Instinct - Banjo-Kazooie - Ninja Theory next project - Blade Some of the improved graphic games that take advantage of the new console power could be: - Starfield - Elder Scrolls VI - Indiana Jones - Avowed - Forza Motorsport - Diablo IV - Flight Simulator 2024 - Fable - Perfect Dark - Doom The Dark Ages - The Outer Worlds 2 - South of Midnight - Gears of War: E-Day This could also apply to 3rd party games: - GTAVI - Read Dead Redemption 2 - The Witcher 3 - Cyberpunk 2077 - Hogwarts Legacy - Baldur's Gate 3 - Elden Ring - Alan Wake 2 - Final Fantasy XVI - Final Fantasy VII Remake - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Monster Hunter Wilds
Ps5 pro was best selling console in Japan on release while its also been reported that it was selling better than the ps4 pro on launch in general. It’s not going to be breaking major records but there is an audience out there for it.
Too bad it's really not worth owning.. Not enough games when you can't play any of it's previous gen games that aren't remastered besides the ps4. Most just use it to stream apps anyways and not actually game. Single Player games get old eventually and the hype it creates will kill the company eventually.
@@Nonlifting_breezy do you have any proof of that? No? Just bc they buy the console doesn't mean they use it for gaming. They sell controllers more than any other software bc they break easy or people get enraged and break them, and that's just fact. The funny thing is there's people still on last gen consoles and pc so sales don't mean anything. Y'all wannabe gamers are a joke fr.
@@kxngreal485 There was over 10,000 Ps4 game titles made and many good Ps2 and Ps3 games were remade for the Ps4 years ago . That's enough backwards compatible for the Ps5 for me .
I was under the impression the reason they called these consoles the Series was because they were going to iPhone style upgrade it every few years instead of the generational gap. I thought we would have already gotten the X2 and the S2.
So at the 11:15 mark, you are misinforming the masses of nobody is showcasing what the Pro can do, there is about 5 games actually, not the full potential, that’s another topic of discussion. In my opinion it’s really a long term investment due to the fact they are just getting started especially with the AI tech in the console. I upgraded from a PS4 pro to the PS5 pro and I have been satisfied so far with the results. But I Alamo realize nobody is clamoring to get their hands on one either, which is understandable.
Absolutely. There’s no reason not to fast track the next console. Gamepass with support it. This is the perfect reason to counter the PS5 Pro. You guys whining about exclusivity is as tired and pointless as the console wars. Example: Sony not allowing HellDivers2 to release at launch on Xbox was just shooting the developer in the foot. The Switch is another world… it doesn’t attempt to compete from a hardware standpoint ie; you’ll never see 4K 120 FPS games on it. PS and Xbox need to just f*** already and get it over with.
I don’t care when it comes, as long as it offers 4k60 on every game as the floor. The options would include things like RTX, 8k/40fps, or 2k120, but 4k60 needs to be the standard. It also needs 2Tb+ storage space and under$600 INCLUDING the disc drive. If it can’t do all that while improving basically every other aspect as well, there is no need.
Phil literally said the handheld was being prototyped. And then said they will see how the market goes down the road. Lol, very real possibility that handheld never comes out
@@judah_macabe He said fans were expecting a handheld from Xbox, & such a device would be years from now. That's a far cry from saying stay tuned guys, the Xbox handheld is on the way.
And now Sony quality games on their handheld being able to stream games without needing a ps5 is prob the cheapest way to get into the next gen console market. $120 a year plus a ps portal.
Problem is the switch plays 10% of new game releases and the PS5 and S-X play 90% of these new games. Want to play the new "Dragon Age Veilguard " or "Star Wars Outlaw" or the soon to come "Kingdom Come: Deliverance II". on a Switch ,you are out of luck .
There's nothing "innovative" about any games on Nintendo's consoles. Stop it. Even their franchises are the same games folks have been playing for four decades. Open-world Zelda.....SO NEW. Another 2D Mario game....SUCH A FRESH CONCEPT.
I've been absent from gaming for over 10 years. Pulled the triggger on a Series S. Planning on only playing Mass Effect Legendary Edition and some 1-3 Gears of War campaign and multiplayer. People still play that, right?
Four years in, Xbox should permanently drop the price of the series x and series s to $300 and $200. It comes down to value. They have enough excellent games. The only true barrier is cost of entry. And cloud streaming is a supplementary feature. It isn’t an xbox as they say. And for the time being, i wouldn’t mind a first party xbox “portal” done right with wifi 7.
Max did make a good point about the next Xbox hardware feeling similar to a Dreamcast situation. I don’t think them launching early is going to have the same effect as it did launching 360 early. Xbox had a ton of momentum going into 360, the opposite is true now.
If they do, they need to target some exclusives for launch. They could even delay some games in development and make them launch titles. I do like the idea.
It’s ridiculous releasing a new console. It’s takes these devs 5-7 years just to release a damn game. A handheld sure. Something along that lines but whole new console isn’t needed unless it’s gonna be something that brings epic and steam to the console
I have a PC and realised that I was never using my Xbox Series X any more, so I sold it. There needs to be compelling Xbox exclusive games, that’s a big reason why Playstation is ahead
I believe in order for there to continue to be console hardware generations consoles need to have more utility and/or be portable. All signs point to hand helds with dock ability.
14:39 That's true but I'd bet $ that, maybe 70% of cell phone users, only have a $1,000+ phone because they pay for it on a $60 a month added to their cell phone bill kind of deal. Maybe if there's a SonySoft that sold it to you in the same way, then sure.
Make an online multiplayer social world that we could run around in and play games together on a big screen or like a gaming center similar to big screen in vr and integrate Xbox cloud gaming into it.
An X-Box that jumps the gun is called the, Dream-Jaguar-Cast. Every time I react on my commute I wind up on the wrong train. Just invest in the existing hardware, make it cheaper and smaller box.
If Xbox can come out early with something so powerful that integrates Windows, it will be very interesting. Imagine a "switch" like Xbox console. Like a dockable ROG Ally X
It’s getting ridiculous. Look at how Nintendo still has the Switch out here making money. Focus on the games! I don’t know why this is even a topic when Phil Spencer himself said that it wasn’t needed.
Exactly
Lmao switch can barely run cartoon graphics at 1080p without problems.
Y'all gotta LEAVE the switch comparison its underpowered
(And the games... Go buy Mario Kart 8 for the 3rd time lol).
And it's just ign who is talking about fast tracking not phil
So no ps5 or Xbox series x, olny a PS3 and Xbox 360, just make thé games greath and hardware cheap.
Gaming as a hobby is not cheap
Switch for people that oraganize skittles by color😂
Let's fast track (greenlight new ips) games, a new console is not going to change that.
Fast tracking games is how we got shit, half-baked games for a decade.
We definitely don’t need that. With all the broken games that have come out so far just wasting time and resources at this point.
@@saxboss1 Half baked yea everyone seems to forget it started back with mass effect my face is tired remember that shit? That downward american studio's spiral never ended.
@@spoiledsandi Sorry maybe I should say fast track greenlighting new games.
Nah, they need something much stronger than the Series X.
Something that can hold native 4k 60 fps.
They need to fast track more games that actually take advantage of the current gen instead of worrying about the next one. Most gamers playing last gen games on the current gen consoles 😪
Both?
Absolutely. Give us something now start next gen with a proper line up of truly next gen gems.
Yes!
Amen to that.
Play hellblade 2, it’s amazing
xbox should focus on making more single player games and making more exclusives
Ahhh yes, because there already aren't enough single player games
What exclusives? Xbox is porting their games to other platforms.
single player games are dying, you finish them and they're over, they already make single player games anyway, halo, gears, doom, etc, its just most of them have multiplayer modes which playststion doesnt do. thats why xbox games are still being played years after launch and sonys games arent.
@@Penance2277 And playstation isnt?
@@deeplaysgaming4754 I don't see Playstation talking about releasing all of their games on Xbox or Nintendo. Meanwhile, Phil Spencer is opening up the platform. Face it dude, he played the Xbox user base.
Don’t need a next gen console to play games from 2 generations ago. Time to focus on games and actually take advantage of what the current gen offers.
This is such a ridiculous conversation. We're asking if Microsoft should rush another console to market after they fumbled on the last two generations. Now they want to start a new gen early and suggest players spend more money sooner. If anything they should be taking their time to do it right. We should be offended that Microsoft is asking us to invest in new hardware especially earlier than normal. They haven't earned that. Don't forget, rushing the 360 to market to beat Sony caused the red ring of death.
Exactly. Xbox had the most powerful console for 6 years, starting with the Xbox One X, up until the release of the PS5 Pro. Gamers don't care.
@@professormilly2021 they didn’t fumble this generation at all. You just have people frothing at the mouths over a PoS5 with no games 🤣😂. Sony has released only three games that’s broken 2 million copies this generation, that’s it!Once the casuals decide on a platform, you may as well pack it up.
I wouldn’t say they fumbled Xbox Seriex X, only the original Xbox One. Xbox One X was a great console.
@@RickyEnEspanol xbox fumbled every exclusive and not only that xbox players aren't buying any games or adding concurrent Game pass subscribers xbox players have forced xbox hand and now all Xbox exclusives coming to Sony now Xbox the new SEGA don't know how is this benefiting them 🤷🏽♂️
@ Lol. I’d be far more worried about Sony at this point than Xbox.
Sony is a copycat box that’s 6 years behind the Xbox in platform direction, All of their investor calls, they echo the same rhetoric as Xbox. They’re both pivoting away from the box because the console market isn’t growing at all.
The only difference is that Sony doesn’t have any content of note to maintain an ecosystem. It’s all one and done games, hence the pivot to GaaS. They rely primarily on third party content and console loyalists with their PS+ revenue to stay afloat. Xbox was already the best of the three when it came to money making franchises and non-one and dones, they then went and bought the king of GaaS games with ABK.
I got all your games on PC, I could care less either way, but Xbox will be running the industry in a few years time with the moves they’re making. Consoles won’t be and will never be the future, all the other boxes under TVs already pretty much went the way of the dodo bird. DVD players, cd players, VHS, all dead. Now they’re apps on a TV or mobile phone.
The focus should be on games. The average gamer won't see the boost in graphics as a big change from current gen. They will care more about hitting 60fps as the quality mode with 120fps being the performance mode.
I just want 30fps to die and go away. It just to low and can be notice and felt. At 60fps things are smooth enough and I do not care if I go to 120fps as much .
But 30fps is just awful .
@@Crashed131963 Totally agree with you.
@@Crashed131963if only all gamers thought like you...
@@Crashed131963 I hope 30fps never goes away; there are many like myself that enjoy playing their single-player, heavy narrative-driven, action-based games like that. It provides a more deliberate, cinematic flair. 60fps on all games is not appropriate. For some, it makes them look like everything is moving too fast, which makes it less aesthetically pleasing. The majority of gamers outside the hardcore don’t care about 60.
You realize devs and hardware team are separate right?
Series X console is just fine. They really should’ve had a next gen controller similar to the dualsense’s capabilities. It’s rumored that the next gen Xbox will have a controller that does just that but that isn’t enough to unveil a whole new console.
This right here. Dualsense makes the Xbox controller feel like cheap plastic and I'm an Xbox fan
I agree. I'd also welcome new hardware and new games.
Totally agree with this
the xbox controller is fine too... prefer to not have the option to give my controller a blow job lol
@Lucasmennitti1 I recently returned 2 controllers with a brand new series x this month with faulty sticks on both controllers, always been an xbox player ever since I had one next to my ps2.. I have taken my xsx back and now I have a ps5 and honestly most fun I have had on a console in years with the ps exclusives
They need to focus on pushing the current hardware, delivering games, and get a handheld out ASAP
Handheld needs to be their mid gen refresh make it as powerful as the Series S
A new console means nothing if there are no games for it
there are literally hundred of games, you know you can play games they arent just first party right
@ I’m talking about exclusives. Microsoft doesn’t have any exclusives that sell consoles like Sony
@@toot1st105 But a 'new generation' of console without games that you cant play elsewhere isn't really a 'new generation' console at all. It'll just be some XSX Pro in all but name. All while a PS6 will come along a couple years later and trounce it in terms of technology, sales and games.
@@maynardburger yesss 💯
so is max the playstation guy or not because he doesn't sound like it anymore
New here aye ? He's always had a conflict with being assigned to cover PlayStation . Have a look at all previous episodes & see for yourself.
He's never been the playstation guy and its very intentional
@@DLastResort but Ryan has been the Xbox guy and never lets up - so if max isn't the playstation guy, he should be replaced with a Playstation guy otherwise what's the point of haven't a blue and green representative supposedly speaking their thoughts on behalf of the respective consoles ....
He's more Xbox then Playstation
gotta bring Jonathan Dornbush back
You know what gives things a shot in the arm?….GREAT EXCLUSIVE TITLES!!!
Rent a ps5 or swap with a trustworthy friend for a month to play them then go back to where ever your library sits.
The gaming market is just as cultural as it is logistical. During the Xbox 360 days, it was cool to own an Xbox. It was the place to play mature, blockbuster level games, whilst having the most accessible and effective online ecosystem.
Since the Xbox One launch, it feels like that ghost still looms and haunts Xbox till this day - an unshakable stigma.
This is why I think Xbox would benefit so much from a total rebrand. Ditch the corporate marketing and start appealing specifically to kids and young adults again. Give us a clean slate. New console, new UI, new social features, new games. Draw a line in the sand and make a clear destination between the “Xbox One” era and the new era. Lean into what originally made the Xbox platform worth investing in.
They had every opportunity to turn things around after the XB1 launch debacle. A whole generation to right the ship and repair their reputation, but they just never did. Their 1st party output was just terrible and it took them buying a bunch of other studios to make it seem like they had any decent exclusives at all, and even then a whole bunch of those have been stumbles as well. They simply haven't been delivering on consistently good exclusives since like 2010-2011. And now they're abandoning exclusivity, which has fully doomed them in the console competition. Their sales have never been worse.
@@maynardburger you and OP make great points I totally agree with. I also think leadership needs wiping, especially Phil Spencer he needs to go.
What's the point of rushing to next gen?
3rd party devs are not going to develop just for a newer Xbox.
Like it or not, 3rd party devs will be developing with Switch 2 as their minimum.
If it runs out Switch, it won't be that much more impressive on a 'next gen console'
They can't even make decent games in house so there is absolutely no point.
The power of series x hasn't even been pushed to the max yet... why even talk about a new console, i've had the series x since it came out in 2020 - there hasn't been anything of significance which has come this gen - the stand out games for me have been witcher 3 and rdr2... yeah last gen games!
@@m_saqibali I definitely agree with you. And even with that being said RDR2 doesn’t even have a 60fps mode which the series x is more than capable of doing. Metro and Doom are good as well but I still agree with the power of the series x not being used to its max
Redfall and starfield pushed to max haha
When Phil said games don't sell consoles he lost me and everyone else. Nintendo proves for 40 years now that you don't have to have the best graphics to sell consoles. You need amazing IPs and always fresh new games. The Switch and 3DS prove my point. Xbox 360 was the peak of their brand because... THEY HAD THE GAMES.
I couldn't have said it any better myself 💯
@@requiem5179. Software drives the hardware. Always.
I don’t think it matters. Everything is an Xbox now according to their advertising.
As someone who’s picked up almost every NA console at launch, I’m doubtful that I’ll even buy the next Xbox. The current console doesn’t provide me anything the I can’t get on my other consoles, steamdeck or PC. They need to have something to differentiate themselves if they want to be successful in the console market.
Probably a safe choice, they’re being pretty open about their strategy. Doesn’t seem like they’re particularly invested in hardware any more, so it’s foolish for customers to show loyalty to a product when the company doesn’t have that same loyalty.
I swear, why does everyone think that every phone out there costs $1,000?…. that’s like saying that a PS5 in general costs $700…
XB360 was not X86 is was IBM Power PC based
He doesn't know things like that lol
ign: the console war is ridiculous.
ign: continually and endlessly talk about the console war.
@@fodiddlediddle5015 so true XD
The PS5 Pro already has two terabytes of storage. The 2 TB Series Xbox is 600.00. A disk drive and stand for the Pro put you at 800. You should be setting your pro up horizontally anyway to extend its life.
Exactly, I'm still amazed at how the internet has given Xbox a pass for this yet hated the Pro for its fair pricing.
I thought they did test it can lay flat or stand up it was because some idiot tried to re add liquid metal and did it wrong that it leaked standing up
No. They should release it in November 2028. Same with PS6.
I agree but PS6 is more likely to release mid to late 2027 rather than 2028, either way is fine as I bought a Pro.
This is dumb. If Playstation 5 Pro has to cost 700.00 for its upgrade, how much would a next generation Xbox cost right now? At least 900.00 to 1k. The tech has to go down in price in order to make a big jump at a good price, and the only thing that makes the price drop is time. Terrible take by professionals.
If the next xbox console releases at a normal time (2ish years away) it'll be like $500-$600 starting and likely just fall short of rivaling a 4070 super, but be just slightly better than a 4070. Considering a PS5 pro is closer to a 3060ti
It's freaking incredible these guys get paid for their clearly short-sighted amateur takes.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182actually the PS5 Pro is closest to a 4070 slightly under clocked as stated by the professionals over at Digital Foundry.
Yes I agree releasing early is dumb for so many reasons, as Ryan calls it stepping on yet another rake.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182actually the PS5 Pro is closest to a 4070 slightly under clocked as stated by the professionals over at Digital Foundry.
The 360 was power pc architecture not x86, that’s why backwards compatibility is spotty on series consoles vs xb one compatibility
Been an Xbox user since the 360. Personally, I have no affiliation. Just use it to play games on. So it meets my needs. Got a PS5 when it became more easily available and have played a couple of exclusives on it, Bloodborne, Shadow of the Colossus and a couple of others. Currently, for new games I look at where I can get it cheaper, which is usually Xbox. I’ve also played a load of games via gamepass so that’s a useful option I’ll continue to use while I can afford to.
Unless you buy a Switch a person can not go wrong .
Most all new game releases and games coming out for 2025 play on PC, ,S-X and Ps5 anyways .
I just bought a $500 Ps5 with disc drive because I consider playing new games fo $500 a cheap price to pay .
I was buying a $1000 PC to play games on. My phone does my internet stuff fine .
Who knows if we'll actually see a new xbox console. We may have some kind of hardware, but a traditional console? Remains to be seen.
The hardware isn’t the problem it’s the software, at least in comparison to PlayStation. Why rush a new console if the price to performance isn’t there, why not just let the technology develop and release a console when it’s ready?
Loving my £250 laptop with its integrated graphics, plays all the best Indy games and a surprising amount of 6+ year old GOTY classics seamlessly and plugs right into the TV and BT Xbox controller to game from that!
The answer is NO. If anything this console gen should be extended. This whole era has been a mess. 4 years in and we still aren’t consistently getting games that take advantage of the hardware. We’ve only been getting remakes and visual upgrades
Yep, I agree
Exactly, half of console gamers are still stick with ladt gen consoles for that exact reason
Max makes a good point though. I don't want hardware for the sake of it. I want to see next level stuff. It needs to push the line forward. What do I think that will look like? Persistent open world multiplayer games:
- Shooters the size of Planetside 2 but with the kind of graphics we are used to from DICE.
- Full open world coop on Sony's upcoming games like Horizon 3 or the rumored Insomniac X-men game
- MMORPGs that deliver on what we saw in the trailer for Anthem.
- An open world Mirror's Edge 3 with full multiplayer co-op.
- Playstation Home 2.0
At this point Xbox is hardware for the sake of it.
"the phones are a thousand dollars." Kinda just hit everybody. Nobody buying a 1000$ phone should be complaining about a 700$ console now or in 2-4 years.
I buy "old" phones. But even with spending $300-$400 on a phone, I shouldn't be complaining about the price of consoles :)
@dctrbrass bro my limit is prob 150$ on a phone but I'm not a phone guy and I drink a bit too much for an expensive piece like that. I hear you tho I'm down to spend bank on a system( a good 1) but I'ma gamer.
Ryan really regrets his PSVR2 purchase haha. He also describes Microsoft as smart for skipping vr and skipping mid gen refresh like they make all the right choices with hardware when they tried to give us the kinect.
Exactly!
@@dnice4145luckily people like us are here to set the record straight.
I feel like allowing people to play their Steam games (or even other apps like EA or Epic) on the new Xbox would be a huge win. It would definitely save me a ton of money, as I wouldn't have to buy a gaming PC anymore.
Looks like Valve are working up to releasing a Steam box in the next couple of years, I’ll probably buy that to cut PC and Xbox out. Steam for TV, Switch for handheld.
History gonna repeat
That next console gonna sell less than the series x and s
They need to wait 2 years release handheld. Then 4 years to release a console that would kill the ps6 pro.
HELL NO as it would bomb based on the current Xbox marketing strategy, buy a PS5 or PS5 Pro instead - and I'm (was) an Xbox fan, but no point as no exclusives.
Ps is going down though .
@@dusermiginte4647 sure buddy
@@MohammedRyad-gs5rt I mean he is right if you want to play Playstation games just get a PC all their exclusives are on there consoles all come down to preference but the real best system is PC I can also play old ps1 and ps2 games on my Xbox by emulating which even Playstation themselves can't do I own both but I like my xbox better but again these consoles are all about preference so if you like Playstation better all power to you
@@MohammedRyad-gs5rt how many first party games have snoy released this gen that isnt remasters....
How many first party games will snoy release in 2025/2026 thats not remasters/remakes?
@@dusermiginte4647
Sackboy: a big adventure
Spiderman Miles Morales
Astro's Playroom
MLB The Show (2021,2022,2023,2024)
Returnal
R&C Rift Apart
God of War Ragnarok
GT7
Horizon Forbidden West
Spiderman 2
Astrobot
Lego Horizon Adventures
WEEK#1 of saying MAX knows nada.
"PS5pros aren't flying off the shelf"
In japan it sold 13,000 more units than the PS4pro. Waiting on US and EU sales.
Yeah this is common knowledge so I'm surprised he didn't know that, just goes to show his not fit for his job.
@craigsampson3386 honestly. He's more like an XBOX guy. He seems to have very little knowledge about PlayStation
@@Ben.B.Benjamin yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
@craigsampson3386 nah they have their own podcasts now and even Jonathan Dornbush the PlayStation guy before MAX left and got a job at Naughty Dog.
@@Ben.B.Benjamin damn lol that says alot about IGN then if that many people have left. Good on those guys glad their careers are progressing 👍
I wish anyone the best that still has their Series X. I caved in and let GameStop pawn mine off of me. Sony’s strategy is traditional but it’s been effective with the experience. That new UI and controller speaks volumes
I still have mine and honestly have not used it in forever. The lack of exclusives has completely hurt the system. I still have mine because I want to play the new Gears of War once that comes out. Other than that, I would've been sold it. Such a powerful machine going to waste
@@HeIzCisco the problem is the focus on exclusives and not what other games are available on the console.. I have over 300 games and game pass gives me more to play, focusing on just exclusives defeats the purpose of gaming in the first place when that was never the point to begin with, the point of gaming is to play the games you like and enjoy, not what games are exclusive to the console.
Sony's strategy is literally rinse and repeat and the only exclusive they have that you can play with friends on is helldivers 2.. I'll still take Xbox any day even with it's faults and if it gets bad enough i'll still own one and probably get a pc eventually for any games that are "console locked" lmao. I can tell a lot of people nowadays aren't real gamers and only focus on the negatives and not the positives. Build your library of games more and you wouldn't focus on just exclusives. PlayStation's controller design also hasn't changed once in years and feels too small and basic in most people's hands, whereas the Xbox controllers take actual skill to learn how to be good with. Wow a swipe pad nobody asked for, so cool playstation.. Lmfao.
@@kxngreal485 I hear you completely. The attractive thing about playstation and it has been this way since the PS4 are the exclusive games. This is why they are beating Xbox in sales. Granted, this generation of consoles has been disappointing in that area, Playstation at least can say they have released more exclusive games than Xbox this generation. Which is why people geared more towards them. I think as a console the Xbox is better , but it does not attract people due to the lack of exclusivity. People say "Why would I buy an xbox to play the same games that I can play on a ps5, while also being able to play playstation exclusives that I will not be able to play on xbox" Only thing Xbox has going for them is the game pass. Other than that, they are completely weak in comparison to playstation. This is coming from an xbox fanboy myself.
@@HeIzCisco sales don't matter and shouldn't be the basis of the whole console wars argument. Sales don't show if the owners actually use the console for gaming or entertainment just that they bought said console. I swear that's the worst argument, I have friends that still use the ps4 because they can't afford a ps5 and don't see a point in getting one unless it's for a game that's console locked. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of gaming honestly.
It is 2024 Max for the love of God get yourself AirPods this Black Friday.
Why?
@@Mac_DNH Must give into the endless consumer mindset that corporations need us to believe in. God forbid people be satisfied with what they have.
The reason why PS5 Pro were a weak upgrade, is because there isn't any other available upgrades unless you use real CPU's and GPU's, but that's too expensive for consoles. Rushing out a console like Sony did is pointless.
360 worked because it was a big jump , a new xbox's game library would look largely the same.
Are my xbox games gonna be enhanced like the PS5 Pro versions when the next xbox is released? Will they patch games to bring parity with Ps5 pro? 🤔
Enhanced to me means 4k/60fps from 4k/30fps and the Ps5 Pro does not have a lot of that on newer games .
The base Ps5 has over 150 Ps4 games that were updated for free to 4k/60 as it is.
Of course they are going to be. Look at what Xbox did with the sx, almost 200 games boosted for absolutely free.
The console is fine its the fact that all the games we want are on ps5. Final fantasy 16, black myth, final fantasy 7, xbox needs to get these games for us
If Microsoft were to release an Xbox Series Max Edition tomorrow, featuring hardware as powerful as an Nvidia 4090 and a 9800X3D chip for a subsidized price of $999, I would still hesitate to purchase it. As others have pointed out, without compelling games, it’s hard to justify the buy.
They need to rethink and revitalize what made the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 successful. I suggest they bring back the original team: J. Allard, Kevin Bachus, Seamus Blackley, Ted Hase, and Otto Berkes, the DirectX team leader. A brainstorming session with these veterans could lead to valuable insights and innovative ideas.
I would really like it if xbox released a more powerful console. Streaming is dependent on an outside source to play games. Streaming also has lag and compromises. I would want the new console I will spend the 700 bucks to have no compromises.
Microsoft just needs to turn xbox into a PC-Console hybrid, where it can dual boot to be used as fully fledged windows pc or has xbox console mode, and make it completely usable with mouse + keyboard.
It's just a standardized pc where developers target it for optimized settings and experience, or Microsoft can automatically set otpimized settings that works well for the hardware (similar to geforce optimize settings kind of thing).
I know many who are still interested in pc gaming but don't want to pay a fortune for assembling a PC, nor they're interested anymore in doing a research, nor they're interested in console with controllers exclusive as an input method.
Steam deck is very close to this, except this would be windows based pc/console.
Well that's the problem - it's a formula Valve could easily do themselves and probably do it better. If Xbox cant even compete even Playstation in the console space, they'll struggle even worse against Valve in the PC space.
@@maynardburger yep exactly 💯
that would be amazing.
@@MajDroid sort of similar to what PS3 did? Sony allowed you to partition your HDD and dual boot their own OS and also have a Linux OS on the PS3 too, PC mouse and keyboard worked via either Bluetooth and/or USB too.
I forget why but Sony later removed this feature in an OS system software update, but at the time not many people cared about losing the functionality or even knew it was a thing as hardly anybody used that feature. I mean sure it was Linux and not the more popular Windows, but even then I don't think its really a highly requested feature of a console in the living room, Windows sucks for living rooms on TVs far away lol its designed primarily for desktop use which is why even if Xbox make a PC/console hybrid dual boot system it won't be as magical as you think it may be, it would probably sell Steamdeck numbers or even worse.
@@craigsampson3386 What you described is for power users and is not an out of the box experience for all users.
The closest thing i'm trying to describe here is SteamDeck, the default mode is Console-ish experience but you can switch to Desktop and use it like a regular PC, now imagine something similar that is Windows based.
I'm certain this will appeal to a lot of people who use it on their desks and not as a console and want to use xbox to play as a PC if needed.
This shows that corporations aren't the only ones that are “power” hungry. The series X is powerful enough. They still haven't fully utilize the full power of this beast of a system. I can only speak for myself, I just want more games. Don't need new generation anytime soon.
Exactly
Ps5 pro is kind of flying off the shelves. It’s been sold out at my local target, GS and Walmart since it came out. And if you want the disc drive, good luck, that is sold out everywhere and selling for 150-200 online.
Yup and already beating PS4 Pro sales too which is amazing considering its high price point and all the hate it got prior to launch lol
@ yes. I don’t understand why the Beyond guy has turned so sour on PlayStation this year. Always so negative and he even seems a little oblivious/ignorant. Miss the old days with Jonathan Dornbush. He was objective and generally had a positive attitude.
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
@@luisfabianvazquez1568 yeah agreed. I've only just started watching some occasional IGN videos again since PS3 days because Digital Foundry started doing some cross collaboration videos with IGN and I totally forgot IGN existed lol so started checking them out again. I miss Collin and Greg, they appear to not be with IGN anymore?
M$ could try releasing a game..
The only thing Xbox is fast tracking is their goal towards becoming a third-party publisher.
They have sold on PC for like 10 years Xbox hasn't done exclusives in a long time. The whole console thing don't matter to a company worth 3 trillion dollars. Microsoft is worth like 40x what Sony is worth.
@@TravisTheSavage Xbox consoles are their number 1 seller for GamePass as nobody else wants it on other platforms. If Xbox dies so does GamePass and all of their massive investments down the drain. It would take forever to gain their 69 billion investments back selling games normally without GamePass subscription income coming in.
Sure it would be nice for them to release a next generation console in 2 years and before Sony.
But only if they have the games to back it up this time! GamePass releases has actually increased recently, but they need to improve on quality too, as some games look somewhat wonky or unfinished.
They also need to work on the menu UI, I know you only use it for a little, but it is just bad as of now.
They also need to improve the standard controller and finally release a new Elite controller. And yes a handheld would be nice too.
Why would they improve on quality , people are giving them money every month regardless of what they shove on gamepass your opinions means nothing but your money means everything , simply put you don't have a say paying for gamepass and refusing to leave it when a bad game releases
Gamepass was always anti consumer trash
The physical console isnt the issue.
I say this as an Xbox owner. The console is awesome, the exclusive games….less amazing.
why don't they just get aggressive on the pricing on current gen consoles, undercut Sony by 100 or 150$
@@JackFrost--5 nah, they should stop mess around and put all the money on games.
Game Pass is still a great value. But, other than that, there has been no reason to own an Xbox for the last 10 years. There hasn’t been a single must have exclusive.
Gears, Halo, Forza, and other exclusives are actually worth having an Xbox for. Xbox's main issue is lack of exclusive single player games that play and look like a blockbuster movie. Honestly though until last of us 3 comes out or a new spider-man or the next god of war, there's really no reason to own a PlayStation either. Guess that's why pc is best bc it can play any game.
Gamepass is anti consumer trash
It's funny you say this in fairness I have the 3 current systems (ps5 og digital series s switch lite) I was playing forza horizon 5 just cruising in my Bugatti that I had just hooked up (engine upgrades colors etc) I'm on the road and open up the map setting my GPS towards the highway and as I get there I hit the straight and hit a new max of 268mph as I pull off the highway I pull over into a random field of sunflowers (light my joint in real life) and just look at my car and the surroundings and setting in amazement at how free the game makes you feel YOU CANNOT DO THAT in gran torismo 7 it's all track 😂 no car game exclusive besides horizon for xbox is letting you do that it's things like that that let you appreciate a console for something only it has so basically you on some big bs 😂
@@kxngreal485Halo in 2024? Bro Microsoft destroyed Halo 🤦♂️
@@luckymark571 still has a huge playerbase sorry you live under a rock 💀
They should fast track their handheld because a handheld + gamepass would be killer. Also, just focus on games - a new console doesn’t matter if there’s no good games to play. And I don’t mean AAA games, just go for singles and doubles. Leave the AAA to Sony and carve a new path into indies, 2.5D, Single and double A games. If they could do a solid, new game every 3 months, that would keep people on game pass
I returned my PS5 pro and got a Xbox, That price is crazy
that would be a huge F you to everyone who bought X/S
Yup whilst also losing trust and faith in the Xbox brand and ecosystem.
13:47 Mislabel -- That is not FF7 Rebirth, it's FF16.
Glad I jumped ship from Xbox but I miss that UI
Really? The constant green got annoying, Sony side is so clean.
Why would you jump ship?
Xbox is the best place to play games
@@mrglass7133 Gaming pc plays better.
Sony base ps5 plays better and has a better adaptive controller hell and now even ps portal streaming games without needing a ps5. 0.o
xbox has gamepass $240 to rent COD Bo6 where a base ps5 with Sony's psn get you TWO YEARS for the same price.
Xbox is just a bumper sticker now.
@@toodreammy welcome here brother
@@mrglass7133 there is literally no point in buying an Xbox if you can just play Xbox games on PlayStation
Xbox needs to release a handheld in atleast 2026. Then release killer console in 2028 that can be connected to the handheld through a dock and work together as one badass console. Allowing games on the hand held to be played on the console and vice versa but they also work together to make make games look as good as possible.
I dont think the hardware is the issue. Gotta keep in mind that games sell hardware. I think that they are also confusing consumers with all these different strategy, i.e. streaming, and announcing handhelds. I used to a Playstation guy all the way. That changed when the Xbox One X and gamepass.
Look at ryans face when damien said PS5 is destroying xbox 2 and a half to 1 🤣🤣🤣
And yet Xbox is making more profit.. 😂
@@dusermiginte4647making profit from other platform is not their own😂😂😂😂
What? He just nods in agreement
@@dusermiginte4647 Xbox doesn’t release their profit numbers only revenue
@@dusermiginte4647lol no they not
Xbox needs to release GOOD games, but that’s asking too much.
thing is xbox hasnt had a soul in its machine since the 360. a vibe almost.
i think the ps5 is even worse i find the whole system quite ugly personally.
but what i wanna see in the next system is a great vibe in the UI its self and not just the final xbone ui.
your paying 500 for these systems its should feel new.
obviously the hardware increase is a given, but id like to see an almost modernised 360 ui. or even the choice for different interfaces.
be dope to have the option to have a 4k xbox 360 esk ui
Like caring what my coffee maker looks like, I just want it to make coffee .
As long as the Ps5 plays new games. Most all new game releases and games coming out for 2025 play on the Ps5 that's all that matters .
Gamers wanted exclusive games to xbox only. Like Xbx 360 era. Never happened. Just get or build a pc. And gamepass. It's the best investment time for long-term gaming hardware. Pc is King. 🤴
Its time xbox fans are honest... its just a disaster for xbox all the time... zero GOTY nominations at game awards 13 years in a row. Zero elite first party ganes. Horrible console sales. Its a disaster!!
Agree, Xbox is done.
I’ve been saying for a long time they should make the smartest business move and shift from pushing hardware to strictly software like Sega. They would make more money than they’ve ever seen. People like Halo, Gears, COD, etc. So just sell licenses to other people that make dope hardware and sit back while all the money flows in.
I would 100% buy series x and not a ps5
But this is because I'm also a pc gamer
You need yo go outside. Don't take this gaming crap so seriously 😂 is a company they don't care what you or I think
I can guarantee that Herman Hulst, Hideaki Nishino, Doug Bowser, Shuntaro Furukuwa, Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, Sarah Bond as well as all the other heads of gaming companies/studios/publishers would laugh at you as you literally don't have a clue what you are talking about 🤣
A Steamdeck is all you need. Free online multi-player, the option to download and play games, even from the Switch. I can mod anything. My Xbox series S with all the games I played for years collects dust.
in other words, Xbox is turning into Google Stadia 😆
So basically another dead one lol
I wouldn't be surprised if the lions win the super bowl :)
And yeah they're starting to look like Stadia
Happy with my Series X
More games please!
My Series X has been collecting dust waiting for GTA VI since I bought it. Crazy
Xbox should offhand hardware production to 3rd parties, have asus, samsung, hp, etc make their own xbox certified machines, and let microsoft focus on building the best ecosystem, all games, playable across all devices, on a single account. Like google does with android.
Like Windows? that's the opposite of what a console is, that's pc experience.
@@sumomaster9144 The same as AMD and Nvidia do with their GPUs, they let other companies make the cards. Consoles and handhelds are dedicated gaming machines, that won't change.
@@onionface5835 who fixes the drivers and stuff? if it's these other companies then you don't control the experience and can't fix it...when something breaks, the customer will complain that xbox is bad
The Dreamcast's failure isn't related to jumping the gun. SEGA needed to put out a cost-effective box and had internal politics that created issues with its development and ultimately its deployment. Sony's inclusion of a DVD Player absolutely contributed to the demise of the Dreamcast. This coupled with horrible business decisions of the past. SEGA waiting to release closer to the PS2 or shortly thereafter would have resulted likely in a console never launching in the first place. The next generation of consoles will not have this issue because Blu-Ray meets the needs of physical media and hardware is far more PC-like than ever before.
Next xbox needs to align with pc so a pc in console form with all the pc catalogue. That is game changing also a steam deck style system is interesting. To stay on the same console path means Sony wins again. The lack of innovative and fun games is the other problem.
No. This current gen feels more like a mid gen refresh of the ps4/xb1 gen. Give us a real upgrade with great games.
Graphics have peaked! The new live action Snow White cements this verity.
Make it cheaper make it smaller. A tiny Box.
Great Stuff!
I have series S and I love it
The next Xbox should have a proper launch and not a soft launch without new games. It's not a Pro version but a new generation.
It should arrive by the end of 2026 or summer 2027 (a year or two ahead of PS6) with the following:
- New gen controller
- New Xbox OS that supports Windows 3rd party game stores such as Steam, GOG, Epic Store, etc
- A couple of amazing temporary exclusives Day 1
- Improved graphics for some games Day 1 specific to the new Xbox
Some of the temporary exclusive games could be:
- Forza Horizon 6
- Halo
- Killer Instinct
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Ninja Theory next project
- Blade
Some of the improved graphic games that take advantage of the new console power could be:
- Starfield
- Elder Scrolls VI
- Indiana Jones
- Avowed
- Forza Motorsport
- Diablo IV
- Flight Simulator 2024
- Fable
- Perfect Dark
- Doom The Dark Ages
- The Outer Worlds 2
- South of Midnight
- Gears of War: E-Day
This could also apply to 3rd party games:
- GTAVI
- Read Dead Redemption 2
- The Witcher 3
- Cyberpunk 2077
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Baldur's Gate 3
- Elden Ring
- Alan Wake 2
- Final Fantasy XVI
- Final Fantasy VII Remake
- Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
- Monster Hunter Wilds
Ps5 pro was best selling console in Japan on release while its also been reported that it was selling better than the ps4 pro on launch in general. It’s not going to be breaking major records but there is an audience out there for it.
Too bad it's really not worth owning.. Not enough games when you can't play any of it's previous gen games that aren't remastered besides the ps4. Most just use it to stream apps anyways and not actually game. Single Player games get old eventually and the hype it creates will kill the company eventually.
@ you couldn’t be more wrong but pop off though lol. Most software sells on PlayStation vs rival consoles.
@@Nonlifting_breezy do you have any proof of that? No? Just bc they buy the console doesn't mean they use it for gaming. They sell controllers more than any other software bc they break easy or people get enraged and break them, and that's just fact. The funny thing is there's people still on last gen consoles and pc so sales don't mean anything. Y'all wannabe gamers are a joke fr.
@@kxngreal485 There was over 10,000 Ps4 game titles made and many good Ps2 and Ps3 games were remade for the Ps4 years ago .
That's enough backwards compatible for the Ps5 for me .
@@kxngreal485literally Capcom released official numbers of each platform sales and PlayStation dominated and even in European sales
I was under the impression the reason they called these consoles the Series was because they were going to iPhone style upgrade it every few years instead of the generational gap. I thought we would have already gotten the X2 and the S2.
When the first party games for Sony comes out you will want it then! Cyberpunk anyone hmmm
So at the 11:15 mark, you are misinforming the masses of nobody is showcasing what the Pro can do, there is about 5 games actually, not the full potential, that’s another topic of discussion. In my opinion it’s really a long term investment due to the fact they are just getting started especially with the AI tech in the console. I upgraded from a PS4 pro to the PS5 pro and I have been satisfied so far with the results. But I Alamo realize nobody is clamoring to get their hands on one either, which is understandable.
Absolutely. There’s no reason not to fast track the next console. Gamepass with support it. This is the perfect reason to counter the PS5 Pro. You guys whining about exclusivity is as tired and pointless as the console wars. Example: Sony not allowing HellDivers2 to release at launch on Xbox was just shooting the developer in the foot. The Switch is another world… it doesn’t attempt to compete from a hardware standpoint ie; you’ll never see 4K 120 FPS games on it. PS and Xbox need to just f*** already and get it over with.
This show caps hard for Xbox.
All three push Xbox, but at least Damon doesn't go out of his way to slam PlayStation, like the other 2 does in every episode.
@@ronniepatterson2827 And all of their BS has achieved nothing, PS is dominating Xbox harder than ever. lol
@@roshe7887 yep👍
@@roshe7887you do know Microsoft is worth 3 trillion dollars. While Sony is 70 billion. Do the math Microsoft could care less about Sony.
It should just be renamed to Xbox watch.
I don’t care when it comes, as long as it offers 4k60 on every game as the floor. The options would include things like RTX, 8k/40fps, or 2k120, but 4k60 needs to be the standard. It also needs 2Tb+ storage space and under$600 INCLUDING the disc drive. If it can’t do all that while improving basically every other aspect as well, there is no need.
Phil literally said the handheld was being prototyped.
And then said they will see how the market goes down the road.
Lol, very real possibility that handheld never comes out
Yeah but you can't say it like that if your pandering too a desperate audience
He didn't. He said it's a few years away. Few meaning two meaning next generation.
@@judah_macabe He said fans were expecting a handheld from Xbox, & such a device would be years from now. That's a far cry from saying stay tuned guys, the Xbox handheld is on the way.
Possibly waiting for the Switch 2 to come out.
@@judah_macabe no a couple means 2, a few means 3 or more. Either way I doubt it ever comes out.
Nintendo is so smart. Just one cheap console with FUN innovative easier to develop games.
And now Sony quality games on their handheld being able to stream games without needing a ps5 is prob the cheapest way to get into the next gen console market. $120 a year plus a ps portal.
Problem is the switch plays 10% of new game releases and the PS5 and S-X play 90% of these new games. Want to play the new "Dragon Age Veilguard " or "Star Wars Outlaw" or the soon to come "Kingdom Come: Deliverance II". on a Switch ,you are out of luck .
There's nothing "innovative" about any games on Nintendo's consoles. Stop it. Even their franchises are the same games folks have been playing for four decades. Open-world Zelda.....SO NEW. Another 2D Mario game....SUCH A FRESH CONCEPT.
@Crashed131963 and yet, they outsell everybody
@@TjIrineu Your Google is different than mine if it does not say Playstation is the highest selling console made .
I've been absent from gaming for over 10 years. Pulled the triggger on a Series S. Planning on only playing Mass Effect Legendary Edition and some 1-3 Gears of War campaign and multiplayer. People still play that, right?
Four years in, Xbox should permanently drop the price of the series x and series s to $300 and $200. It comes down to value. They have enough excellent games. The only true barrier is cost of entry. And cloud streaming is a supplementary feature. It isn’t an xbox as they say.
And for the time being, i wouldn’t mind a first party xbox “portal” done right with wifi 7.
Micro$oft are too greedy to drop price, heck they're charging almost Pro money for a 2TB Series X now.
Max did make a good point about the next Xbox hardware feeling similar to a Dreamcast situation. I don’t think them launching early is going to have the same effect as it did launching 360 early. Xbox had a ton of momentum going into 360, the opposite is true now.
If they do, they need to target some exclusives for launch. They could even delay some games in development and make them launch titles. I do like the idea.
It’s ridiculous releasing a new console. It’s takes these devs 5-7 years just to release a damn game. A handheld sure. Something along that lines but whole new console isn’t needed unless it’s gonna be something that brings epic and steam to the console
They should just focus on games and keeping backwards compatibility going with consoles going forward.
I have a PC and realised that I was never using my Xbox Series X any more, so I sold it. There needs to be compelling Xbox exclusive games, that’s a big reason why Playstation is ahead
Max really hates Sony lol
What do u expect from an Xbox guy ??
Who wouldn’t the way they trick Ponies into letting them rip them off? 😂😂😂
@@johnny-ri9xrTypical Pony talk. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DaveGX I love that 4 days later nobody has liked your cringe comments. My faith in humanity restored slightly 🙏
@@craigsampson3386 What "cringe" of moment? Really? You waited 4 days to reply basically nothing? Congrats Mr popularity, you win. Oh wait..... 🤯🤯🤯
I believe in order for there to continue to be console hardware generations consoles need to have more utility and/or be portable. All signs point to hand helds with dock ability.
I don't see no point in it at this time when the game devs aren't really taking advantage of what the systems can do right now.
14:39 That's true but I'd bet $ that, maybe 70% of cell phone users, only have a $1,000+ phone because they pay for it on a $60 a month added to their cell phone bill kind of deal. Maybe if there's a SonySoft that sold it to you in the same way, then sure.
Make an online multiplayer social world that we could run around in and play games together on a big screen or like a gaming center similar to big screen in vr and integrate Xbox cloud gaming into it.
An X-Box that jumps the gun is called the, Dream-Jaguar-Cast. Every time I react on my commute I wind up on the wrong train.
Just invest in the existing hardware, make it cheaper and smaller box.
I don't think they need to hurry because I keep reading it's having issues with games like Alan Wake 2. There's no rush
If Xbox can come out early with something so powerful that integrates Windows, it will be very interesting. Imagine a "switch" like Xbox console. Like a dockable ROG Ally X