Shannon casually mentioning that she lived in three eras: 1. Pre-Pics or it didn't happen 2. Pics or it didn't happen era 3. Post Pics or it didn't happen
This made me realize Shannon has been making videos for longer than some of her viewers have been alive, haha. I remember watching her co-host Hak5 with Darren in the mid and late 2000s.
Oh I dunno mate , photo shop is very powerful , and add to that all the computer generated photo enhancements, while it’s really amazing and clever , these days , if you look at a cool photo , you ask yourself , how much of that photography was effort and how much was computer. These days , a blind person could take a good photo because all they have to do is get people to stand in front and press the button, the whizz bang camera does everything. A lot of credibility is gone out of photography imo.
I recently lost my job as a mythological freshwater loch monster, and I am vehemently opposed to AI photo editing. I have kids and I’m not sure how I’m going to provide for them. A friend in the industry (he hates it when I name drop so let’s just say he wears size 32 shoes) suggested a reality TV show but networks have shown little interest. I have enrolled in a community college course for locksmithing but it wasn’t what I was expecting so I don’t think that will work out, either. Right now, I’m hoping my savings will last until I can retire. I have a Go Fund Me if tou wish to help. Thank you for your support. 😢
I was a deleteme subscriber until a couple days ago. They had plenty of time to respond to the critical review posted by Consumer Reports and they are still silent. That in combination of the AG1 level of marketing was just too much for me, I think they care more about money than doing what they claim to be doing.
Hi Shannon! Recently I traded my Pixel 7Pro for the 9Pro XL. In the past I used 'magic eraser' to remove people in the background. I had a family member send me a picture of their 50th Anniversary family photo taken in a restaurant. Unfortunately the curtain in the background was messed up, partially open showing the background, and partially closed. Magic Editor fixed the curtains where they were all closed. Just one click of the button. Best Duane
Magic Editor removing things from photos is great. Adding things into images however is a bit scary and here's to hoping proper safeguards are put into place. But until then it'll now be "Vids or it didn't happen"
The Pokemon sweater is awesome! :) I haven't had a chance to play with the google pixel 9 AI, but I have used Gemini to create some photos. It is pretty scary how easy it is to make some images with some word prompts. I was making on for my fantasy football team haha.
Currently fighting with Adobe Creative Cloud AI at work rn. I hate the current use of LLMs and I opt out by force when needed. I'm an artist. I ain't using any of that crap.
I hate AI and try to avoid it at all cost. I HATE all the misuse of, killing of jobs it's doing and all the other bad it's being used for too. Till us humans learn how to use it correctly for good and are made to do so I will always HATE it with no acceptations and with a bias for the days before all the AI stuff that should all go away. Well at least till we can use it the correct ways and it's enforced strictly. I hope that day comes and we can all use AI without any fear of it being used for harm, it taking jobs (making them worse IE: tech support from a company) and the other not good things it can and will be used for before we learn to use it correctly and are strictly enforced to do so. I don't like using hate towards something but that is how strongly I dislike AI anything at the moment. It can hopefully be fixed and change my mom on it but I doubt it will happen anytime soon, but I hope it will.
Yikes, well this is all super troubling, in an age of misinformation this just feels like fuel on a raging fire! On a lighter note though, I found your very real reaction to the creepy ghost images both funny and relatable haha!
Haven't been to Edinburgh in over 40 years! I do wish that digital cameras had been around 40 years ago, though. As it was...I spent lots on film and processing of my pictures. That amounted to less than 100 pictures, because I had a low budget. In today's world, I can do without all the Fakey McFakerson photo editing rubbish the new phones have. Last night...I watched two AIs "converse" during a "RUclips podcast" about JWST taking classified pictures of invading aliens. It was an utter fiction and a scary warning about how even AIs are subject to self-delusion. Needless to say...I don't need those two chuckle-headed AIs arguing with one another...on my phone. My Pixel 6A running GrapheneOS is all I need. Unlike even my 20+ year-old DSLRs, it can take amazing photos of Christmas lights at night. Yes...that's what makes ME excited about it. Aloha!
@@ShannonMorse i know right, if you had a moose on a shopping mall in British Colombia or Alberta , i guess people would take pictures of it, but it won't make the newspaper
It's time AI content requires durable watermarking. It's not going to stop the problem but at least removing the watermark will have to be intentional and hopefully require minimum levels of skill.
I agree, that same line of reasoning is why we have tags on mattresses and it's a crime for the seller to intentionally remove the tag. Having an intentional tag and watermark where the crime is removing the watermark could be a viable means of enforcement.
@@Nichrysalis I'm not necessarily even saying it needs to be a law but at least a working standard. I remember the guy that made his cat MASSIVE in a photo. He just shared it with friends and family but the Internet blew up. Let's try to stop unintentional hoaxes that were meant to be good natured jokes. If someone wants to perpetrate a hoax they can train there own AI for pretty cheap and run it on a $2k computer at home. There's really nothing we can do to stop that. We also don't want to accidentally train AI on pictures of "real dragons" or other false information. An algorithm can be created so that AI and other software tools can easily recognize fakes. My idea is to embed a series of virtually invisible pixels in the photo that aren't obvious to the naked eye but are difficult to remove. They wouldn't be destroyed by simple downsizing or encoding into another format.
@@jmr ... all of which can be defeated.The only way to protect any image would be to digitally sign them, and I have all the imagination necessary to know that that will never happen.
Photoshop has been a thing forever, pics have been unreliable for decades now, but it's only a problem because the robot does it? Like humans haven't been just editing media of all sorts until now?
Shannon casually mentioning that she lived in three eras:
1. Pre-Pics or it didn't happen
2. Pics or it didn't happen era
3. Post Pics or it didn't happen
...Me too though 😂😂
I'm calling myself out on being old lol.
This made me realize Shannon has been making videos for longer than some of her viewers have been alive, haha.
I remember watching her co-host Hak5 with Darren in the mid and late 2000s.
I started in 2008 😆
Ai image generation concerns me, while we have had image manipulation since the beginning, it’s never been so easy and in so many people’s hands.
This!
RIP "Pics or it didn't happen"
top tier comment
I came for the review but couldn't stop laughing out loud as Shannon scares herself with fake ghosts😂
It's bad enough that my house is haunted, I don't need fake AI ghosts too 🤣
I'm old enough to remember the same discussion about Photoshop - It was going to destroy Art, photo-journalism etc. Turns out, none of that happened.
AI is a different ballgame than Photoshop.
Oh I dunno mate , photo shop is very powerful , and add to that all the computer generated photo enhancements, while it’s really amazing and clever , these days , if you look at a cool photo , you ask yourself , how much of that photography was effort and how much was computer.
These days , a blind person could take a good photo because all they have to do is get people to stand in front and press the button, the whizz bang camera does everything.
A lot of credibility is gone out of photography imo.
@@mikldude9376 Photography shouldn’t have to be a high effort endeavor.
I recently lost my job as a mythological freshwater loch monster, and I am vehemently opposed to AI photo editing. I have kids and I’m not sure how I’m going to provide for them. A friend in the industry (he hates it when I name drop so let’s just say he wears size 32 shoes) suggested a reality TV show but networks have shown little interest. I have enrolled in a community college course for locksmithing but it wasn’t what I was expecting so I don’t think that will work out, either. Right now, I’m hoping my savings will last until I can retire. I have a Go Fund Me if tou wish to help. Thank you for your support. 😢
🤣🤣🤣 best comment.
I can't get the Pixel 9 because as a dad I am legally obligated to keep the Pixel8 for the puns.
Glad your visiting Scotland! Did you visit Drumnadrochit?
Yes I did! We had lunch at Fiddlers and checked out the local stores.
We're going to be questioning every image we see from now on lol
Only trust official news outlets, those sure are trustworthy...right?
I was a deleteme subscriber until a couple days ago. They had plenty of time to respond to the critical review posted by Consumer Reports and they are still silent. That in combination of the AG1 level of marketing was just too much for me, I think they care more about money than doing what they claim to be doing.
I didn’t have much success with them either. I used EasyOptOuts recently and it seems good so far.
One way to verify if a event is true would be to ask for multiple photo from multiple angle?
Hi Shannon!
Recently I traded my Pixel 7Pro for the 9Pro XL. In the past I used 'magic eraser' to remove people in the background. I had a family member send me a picture of their 50th Anniversary family photo taken in a restaurant. Unfortunately the curtain in the background was messed up, partially open showing the background, and partially closed. Magic Editor fixed the curtains where they were all closed. Just one click of the button.
Best
Duane
Magic Editor removing things from photos is great. Adding things into images however is a bit scary and here's to hoping proper safeguards are put into place. But until then it'll now be "Vids or it didn't happen"
Google should be leading the charge by identifying AI chatbots in the comments section. Way too many chatbots on RUclips.
What makes you think that a photo of the Loch Ness monster is fake?
Thanks Shannon for this video! Nice and fun to watch. Also a lot of interesting information! Keep up the good work.👀
I find it fun to sketch back AI images friends share in group chats. I see the concerns for sure but today makes the phone and conversations more fun
When I circle something the options to do something doesn't show. It only let me drag the area or remove it... What am I missing
Well, sounds like it's time to go "modified by AI" watermark crazy and have multiple AIs rate images/articles with a fakeness risk percentage.
Yeah but then I'd just Magic Erase the watermark lol
The Pokemon sweater is awesome! :) I haven't had a chance to play with the google pixel 9 AI, but I have used Gemini to create some photos. It is pretty scary how easy it is to make some images with some word prompts. I was making on for my fantasy football team haha.
"This is a very big but..."
It scares me that this is so easy. We need a way to sign original photos at the time they are taken to validate they are real.
I hope Google doesn't nerf their AI to placate doomsday warriors. Gemini is already aggravating to use because of "guardrails".
Currently fighting with Adobe Creative Cloud AI at work rn. I hate the current use of LLMs and I opt out by force when needed. I'm an artist. I ain't using any of that crap.
She really creeped herself out with the AI ghosts LOL. To be fair, it looked a little too good
I hate AI and try to avoid it at all cost. I HATE all the misuse of, killing of jobs it's doing and all the other bad it's being used for too. Till us humans learn how to use it correctly for good and are made to do so I will always HATE it with no acceptations and with a bias for the days before all the AI stuff that should all go away. Well at least till we can use it the correct ways and it's enforced strictly. I hope that day comes and we can all use AI without any fear of it being used for harm, it taking jobs (making them worse IE: tech support from a company) and the other not good things it can and will be used for before we learn to use it correctly and are strictly enforced to do so.
I don't like using hate towards something but that is how strongly I dislike AI anything at the moment. It can hopefully be fixed and change my mom on it but I doubt it will happen anytime soon, but I hope it will.
Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day!
somebody should refilm memento with this in mind, the ai stuff would open up so much potential for bad intentions
Making Photoshop available to the masses. I don't see an issue.
Consider your sources. This is the case for news or any kind of information on the internet you might want to trust.
Yikes, well this is all super troubling, in an age of misinformation this just feels like fuel on a raging fire! On a lighter note though, I found your very real reaction to the creepy ghost images both funny and relatable haha!
We've had industrial scale 'mis-information' since the advent of cable news, so I think this won't make a dent:)
Well that is one way to get photographic evidence thrown out in court 😂
1) we're f*cked
2) is this a pixel9 ad? 😅
I got the Pixel 9 pro xl and i haven't even used this. Huh,..
Google motto used to be "don't be evil". Now it's probably "be evil".
Google is basically warning us about how easy it is to do fake content, so we dont just believe anything that is out there.
Very jealous of that pokémon shirt.
Haven't been to Edinburgh in over 40 years!
I do wish that digital cameras had been around 40 years ago, though. As it was...I spent lots on film and processing of my pictures. That amounted to less than 100 pictures, because I had a low budget.
In today's world, I can do without all the Fakey McFakerson photo editing rubbish the new phones have.
Last night...I watched two AIs "converse" during a "RUclips podcast" about JWST taking classified pictures of invading aliens. It was an utter fiction and a scary warning about how even AIs are subject to self-delusion.
Needless to say...I don't need those two chuckle-headed AIs arguing with one another...on my phone.
My Pixel 6A running GrapheneOS is all I need. Unlike even my 20+ year-old DSLRs, it can take amazing photos of Christmas lights at night. Yes...that's what makes ME excited about it.
Aloha!
AI will be the destruction of humanity.
It's basically become the matrix
ummm. Nope i've seen Terminator, and Person of interest. I don't need AI. You guys have fun though =)
a moose .... in a grocery store, sure , in Canada
I used to live in Alaska and it's more common than you think. Also, we have moose all the way down in Colorado!
@@ShannonMorse i know right, if you had a moose on a shopping mall in British Colombia or Alberta , i guess people would take pictures of it, but it won't make the newspaper
What you all know about 11.28.2006?
Off topic but are you no longer with Hak5 at all?
No, I left the company about a year ago!
@@ShannonMorse oh dang ok I thought you just left threat wire portion
logs or it didn't happen
It's time AI content requires durable watermarking. It's not going to stop the problem but at least removing the watermark will have to be intentional and hopefully require minimum levels of skill.
I agree, that same line of reasoning is why we have tags on mattresses and it's a crime for the seller to intentionally remove the tag.
Having an intentional tag and watermark where the crime is removing the watermark could be a viable means of enforcement.
@@Nichrysalis I'm not necessarily even saying it needs to be a law but at least a working standard. I remember the guy that made his cat MASSIVE in a photo. He just shared it with friends and family but the Internet blew up. Let's try to stop unintentional hoaxes that were meant to be good natured jokes. If someone wants to perpetrate a hoax they can train there own AI for pretty cheap and run it on a $2k computer at home. There's really nothing we can do to stop that. We also don't want to accidentally train AI on pictures of "real dragons" or other false information. An algorithm can be created so that AI and other software tools can easily recognize fakes. My idea is to embed a series of virtually invisible pixels in the photo that aren't obvious to the naked eye but are difficult to remove. They wouldn't be destroyed by simple downsizing or encoding into another format.
Useless since there are already many tools who make such a removal trivial.
@@decoryder That's a lack of imagination on your part. There are plenty of ways to create watermarks.
@@jmr ... all of which can be defeated.The only way to protect any image would be to digitally sign them, and I have all the imagination necessary to know that that will never happen.
Why is the word ethical being thrown around so casually.
Spreading power is ethical.
Photoshop has been a thing forever, pics have been unreliable for decades now, but it's only a problem because the robot does it? Like humans haven't been just editing media of all sorts until now?